If I were Johnson I'd make a leadership election happen right now, before the by-elections, to catch my opponents off-guard.
He doesn't have the power to call a leadership election.
Could he not have loyalists send letters in to trigger one. Between MPs who love him and those that hate him, surely even Boris has the numbers.
Yeah, I had thought about this when it came up a few months ago. But would it survive the Brady ring-round?
Is the ring round a thing? Or is it just something he can do if he wants?
Hard to believe that's a formal part of the slightly esoteric process. Feels like it would be an abuse of the process for the bloke overseeing it to ring round to go 'Are you sure about this, mate?'
As for the idea loyalists could trigger one, that'd be very silly indeed I think. Sure, he'd probably win - heck, May won hers let's remember, even without loyalists triggering it (as far as we know) - but it'd just be too big a risk for a leader to engage in. It's one thing daring people to put up or shut up, it is quite another to put a gun in their hand.
One thing I haven't seen much comment on. Is that Sir Graham Brady himself is now in an under threat marginal. Indeed. The Council results suggest he's toast How would that affect things?
Crickey....Billy Bragg gone off the deep end. This is end of the thread....he gets trans, white supremacists and Nazis into it.
I’m in Hamburg atm In the pavements are small brass plaques bearing the names of Jews who lived in the building opposite the plaque who were murdered by the Nazis. That began with people deciding they could define someone by their biology alone. https://t.co/8Ih5wx5Bwb
I imagine a lot of Liverpool fans turned up late. We made the mistake of getting the ferry to France today. Huge queues and very long delays. Fans everywhere. We arrived at the port at 7am and just snuck on the 9.30 ferry by a whisker. The ferry was half empty as most passengers were still queuing when they closed check in.
This was Irish Ferries, who are disorganised at the best of times, but by far the cheapest option for crossing today so would have been the chosen carrier (and familiar to many Liverpudlians as they sail from there.) But there were big delays for all ferry companies. next ferry was 12.45 so you would get to Calais at 3.15. Then 3 hours drive to Paris if you’re lucky, before traffic jams, parking etc. Fans would have been pouring in at the last minute.
Happily for us we were heading down the almost empty Autoroutes to the Maconnais.
It’s a lot more nuanced than that
“At the Champions League final. Game is delayed because there are mobs of thieves stealing from spectators. Shameful. They stole half of our tickets. Mobs are trying to jump turnstiles. Us with 2 kids.”
I imagine a lot of Liverpool fans turned up late. We made the mistake of getting the ferry to France today. Huge queues and very long delays. Fans everywhere. We arrived at the port at 7am and just snuck on the 9.30 ferry by a whisker. The ferry was half empty as most passengers were still queuing when they closed check in.
This was Irish Ferries, who are disorganised at the best of times, but by far the cheapest option for crossing today so would have been the chosen carrier (and familiar to many Liverpudlians as they sail from there.) But there were big delays for all ferry companies. next ferry was 12.45 so you would get to Calais at 3.15. Then 3 hours drive to Paris if you’re lucky, before traffic jams, parking etc. Fans would have been pouring in at the last minute.
Happily for us we were heading down the almost empty Autoroutes to the Maconnais.
It’s a lot more nuanced than that
“At the Champions League final. Game is delayed because there are mobs of thieves stealing from spectators. Shameful. They stole half of our tickets. Mobs are trying to jump turnstiles. Us with 2 kids.”
I’m sure that’s true, I am just suggesting one of the contributing factors. They would have had plans to get to the stadium nice and early, take in the sites, get an early dinner. Instead thousands will have been getting there just in the nick of time.
If I were Johnson I'd make a leadership election happen right now, before the by-elections, to catch my opponents off-guard.
He doesn't have the power to call a leadership election.
Could he not have loyalists send letters in to trigger one. Between MPs who love him and those that hate him, surely even Boris has the numbers.
Yeah, I had thought about this when it came up a few months ago. But would it survive the Brady ring-round?
Is the ring round a thing? Or is it just something he can do if he wants?
Hard to believe that's a formal part of the slightly esoteric process. Feels like it would be an abuse of the process for the bloke overseeing it to ring round to go 'Are you sure about this, mate?'
As for the idea loyalists could trigger one, that'd be very silly indeed I think. Sure, he'd probably win - heck, May won hers let's remember, even without loyalists triggering it (as far as we know) - but it'd just be too big a risk for a leader to engage in. It's one thing daring people to put up or shut up, it is quite another to put a gun in their hand.
Absolutely, I don't think for a second the Government would be stupid enough to invite what appears to be a pretty mutinous party to mutiny.
David Canzini is a shit Lynton Crosby tribute act.
Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? "The centre is slipping away to Starmer, so let's have some new policies that appeal only to the 30% who are still voting for us, and make us look like past-it one-hit wonders to the other 70%"?
Which says 23% "strongly support" and 20% "tend to support".
In other words: 23%, absolute tops, would even consider altering their vote for this thin gruel of a policy.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that this 23% are already voting Conservative.
I'm a metric man myself - no idea what my weight in stones is. But I expect that *allowing* traders to do what they like will be mildly popular. The main danger is that it so obviously is just a token tossed to backbenchers, instead of attending to the main issues of the day - a bit like a harassed Labour leadership nationalising the biscuit tin industry.
Just a 3% lead for Labour after the Gray report with Opinium is much better than expected. Boris and many Tory MPs will be relieved.
The 32% wanting Boris to stay PM almost exactly matches the 33% Conservative voteshare, so clearly those wanting him to go are virtually all Labour and LD voters
David Canzini is a shit Lynton Crosby tribute act.
Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? "The centre is slipping away to Starmer, so let's have some new policies that appeal only to the 30% who are still voting for us, and make us look like past-it one-hit wonders to the other 70%"?
Which says 23% "strongly support" and 20% "tend to support".
In other words: 23%, absolute tops, would even consider altering their vote for this thin gruel of a policy.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that this 23% are already voting Conservative.
I'm a metric man myself - no idea what my weight in stones is. But I expect that *allowing* traders to do what they like will be mildly popular. The main danger is that it so obviously is just a token tossed to backbenchers, instead of attending to the main issues of the day - a bit like a harassed Labour leadership nationalising the biscuit tin industry.
It just gives off a stale odour. The stale fag-end years of a tired government that’s been too long in power and has run out of ideas.
I’m surprised Labour haven’t taken this line much more. It worked very well in the 90s. The Tories have been in power for 12 years now. The trouble with being constantly outraged by them, rather than taking more of a tone of jaundiced contempt, is that the outrage keeps making them seem relevant and important. Divisive yes, but relevant. I’d prefer to see more along the lines of “he was the future once”.
David Canzini is a shit Lynton Crosby tribute act.
Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? "The centre is slipping away to Starmer, so let's have some new policies that appeal only to the 30% who are still voting for us, and make us look like past-it one-hit wonders to the other 70%"?
Which says 23% "strongly support" and 20% "tend to support".
In other words: 23%, absolute tops, would even consider altering their vote for this thin gruel of a policy.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that this 23% are already voting Conservative.
I'm a metric man myself - no idea what my weight in stones is. But I expect that *allowing* traders to do what they like will be mildly popular. The main danger is that it so obviously is just a token tossed to backbenchers, instead of attending to the main issues of the day - a bit like a harassed Labour leadership nationalising the biscuit tin industry.
It just gives off a stale odour. The stale fag-end years of a tired government that’s been too long in power and has run out of ideas.
I’m surprised Labour haven’t taken this line much more. It worked very well in the 90s. The Tories have been in power for 12 years now. The trouble with being constantly outraged by them, rather than taking more of a tone of jaundiced contempt, is that the outrage keeps making them seem relevant and important. Divisive yes, but relevant. I’d prefer to see more along the lines of “he was the future once”.
It isn't really to do with ideas, it was promised during Brexit campaign. Now you might argue that sums up Brexit and a waste of time, but it isn't a policy they just thought up now....it making good on a long promised change to the rules.
Of course its red meat for Brexit and timing politicial, but I think Labour would be silly to fall into elephant trap if really getting involved, as could be spun as look Labour at it again doing down Brexit supporters
I would neither ask for a pound of apples nor a kilo of apples. If I want five apples, I ask for five apples. I have no idea how heavy a bag of five apples is.
I would neither ask for a pound of apples nor a kilo of apples. If I want five apples, I ask for five apples. I have no idea how heavy a bag of five apples is.
David Canzini is a shit Lynton Crosby tribute act.
Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? "The centre is slipping away to Starmer, so let's have some new policies that appeal only to the 30% who are still voting for us, and make us look like past-it one-hit wonders to the other 70%"?
Which says 23% "strongly support" and 20% "tend to support".
In other words: 23%, absolute tops, would even consider altering their vote for this thin gruel of a policy.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that this 23% are already voting Conservative.
I'm a metric man myself - no idea what my weight in stones is. But I expect that *allowing* traders to do what they like will be mildly popular. The main danger is that it so obviously is just a token tossed to backbenchers, instead of attending to the main issues of the day - a bit like a harassed Labour leadership nationalising the biscuit tin industry.
I am metric too, it is just better for work to calculate BMI etc.
I dont have a problem with both being legal units though.
David Canzini is a shit Lynton Crosby tribute act.
Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? "The centre is slipping away to Starmer, so let's have some new policies that appeal only to the 30% who are still voting for us, and make us look like past-it one-hit wonders to the other 70%"?
Which says 23% "strongly support" and 20% "tend to support".
In other words: 23%, absolute tops, would even consider altering their vote for this thin gruel of a policy.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that this 23% are already voting Conservative.
I'm a metric man myself - no idea what my weight in stones is. But I expect that *allowing* traders to do what they like will be mildly popular. The main danger is that it so obviously is just a token tossed to backbenchers, instead of attending to the main issues of the day - a bit like a harassed Labour leadership nationalising the biscuit tin industry.
Yes, I just don't see how it really moves anything. I do know my weight in stones, and would have to think about what it is in kilos, but it's one of those things that pushing it as some grand action will look overblown.
Fieldwork on this one 25th-27th, so spans the Sue Gray report and the Sunak package. My prediction was that after the Sunak package the lead would drop to 1-2, which seems to fit with the 3-point lead here. But I expect it'll float up to 5 or so as the Sunak package fades.
In other news, the Abba event is terrific - assuming one likes Abba, of course. Spectacular lighting, convincing avatars and the real people appearing at the end. Lots of dancing in the aisles! The chap behind us was so impressed by the dancing of the friend who I'd taken that he slipped her his card on the way out "in case you ever want a change of company". Impressive nerve...
I’m glad you liked the abba, but you are talking bullshit on the polls. You implied all polls not just the opinium who have never given labour a bigger lead than 4 under this methodology.
Not letting you get away with you implying Labours lead is now only 2 old chap.
I'd be interested to see the polls in two weeks tbh. Strange as it may seem to us but most folk don't follow it very closely. Usually takes a fortnight to filter through. That's Gray Report and Sunak cash btw.
June Gloom polling for Tories. Kantor and Opinium show their % on the slide. What can save them?
Simple. Putting the Big Dog in a concrete overcoat and tipping him over the side of Westminster Bridge.
Not easy, and it might be temporary relief, but it is simple.
I would neither ask for a pound of apples nor a kilo of apples. If I want five apples, I ask for five apples. I have no idea how heavy a bag of five apples is.
David Canzini is a shit Lynton Crosby tribute act.
Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? "The centre is slipping away to Starmer, so let's have some new policies that appeal only to the 30% who are still voting for us, and make us look like past-it one-hit wonders to the other 70%"?
Which says 23% "strongly support" and 20% "tend to support".
In other words: 23%, absolute tops, would even consider altering their vote for this thin gruel of a policy.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that this 23% are already voting Conservative.
I'm a metric man myself - no idea what my weight in stones is. But I expect that *allowing* traders to do what they like will be mildly popular. The main danger is that it so obviously is just a token tossed to backbenchers, instead of attending to the main issues of the day - a bit like a harassed Labour leadership nationalising the biscuit tin industry.
I am metric too, it is just better for work to calculate BMI etc.
I dont have a problem with both being legal units though.
I think the issue has been that, if shops want to sell in imperial only, the weights and measures inspectors have to have another set of standards to check their scales.
So a bit more bureaucratic hassle, which costs someone down the line, for what benefit, beyond warm fuzzies?
I would neither ask for a pound of apples nor a kilo of apples. If I want five apples, I ask for five apples. I have no idea how heavy a bag of five apples is.
Would depend on the size of the apples!
I always thought the weight of an average apple was about 1 Newton.
David Canzini is a shit Lynton Crosby tribute act.
Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? "The centre is slipping away to Starmer, so let's have some new policies that appeal only to the 30% who are still voting for us, and make us look like past-it one-hit wonders to the other 70%"?
Which says 23% "strongly support" and 20% "tend to support".
In other words: 23%, absolute tops, would even consider altering their vote for this thin gruel of a policy.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that this 23% are already voting Conservative.
I'm a metric man myself - no idea what my weight in stones is. But I expect that *allowing* traders to do what they like will be mildly popular. The main danger is that it so obviously is just a token tossed to backbenchers, instead of attending to the main issues of the day - a bit like a harassed Labour leadership nationalising the biscuit tin industry.
I am metric too, it is just better for work to calculate BMI etc.
I dont have a problem with both being legal units though.
I think the issue has been that, if shops want to sell in imperial only, the weights and measures inspectors have to have another set of standards to check their scales.
So a bit more bureaucratic hassle, which costs someone down the line, for what benefit, beyond warm fuzzies?
David Canzini is a shit Lynton Crosby tribute act.
Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? "The centre is slipping away to Starmer, so let's have some new policies that appeal only to the 30% who are still voting for us, and make us look like past-it one-hit wonders to the other 70%"?
Which says 23% "strongly support" and 20% "tend to support".
In other words: 23%, absolute tops, would even consider altering their vote for this thin gruel of a policy.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that this 23% are already voting Conservative.
I'm a metric man myself - no idea what my weight in stones is. But I expect that *allowing* traders to do what they like will be mildly popular. The main danger is that it so obviously is just a token tossed to backbenchers, instead of attending to the main issues of the day - a bit like a harassed Labour leadership nationalising the biscuit tin industry.
I am metric too, it is just better for work to calculate BMI etc.
I dont have a problem with both being legal units though.
I think the issue has been that, if shops want to sell in imperial only, the weights and measures inspectors have to have another set of standards to check their scales.
So a bit more bureaucratic hassle, which costs someone down the line, for what benefit, beyond warm fuzzies?
That doesn't seem to make much sense, surely they can convert from the metric of the standards they have to what an imperial scales should show?
Just a 3% lead for Labour after the Gray report with Opinium is much better than expected. Boris and many Tory MPs will be relieved.
The 32% wanting Boris to stay PM almost exactly matches the 33% Conservative voteshare, so clearly those wanting him to go are virtually all Labour and LD voters
On that note, rumours going around that one of the papers has polls for both byelections, done by NCPolitics mostly after Sue Gray Blue team are getting absolutely hammered in Wakefield (much much worse than YouGov's general election model says). Votes going all over the place. David H (formerly of this parish) apparently getting a few. Overall not even close But Tiverton is close and sliding towards the LDems Voters told the poll they’re livid about the photos, Tories getting theirs out to vote is going to be a big problem for them
Update: Apparently it's for one of the dailies, so not out tonight
David Canzini is a shit Lynton Crosby tribute act.
Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? "The centre is slipping away to Starmer, so let's have some new policies that appeal only to the 30% who are still voting for us, and make us look like past-it one-hit wonders to the other 70%"?
Which says 23% "strongly support" and 20% "tend to support".
In other words: 23%, absolute tops, would even consider altering their vote for this thin gruel of a policy.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that this 23% are already voting Conservative.
I'm a metric man myself - no idea what my weight in stones is. But I expect that *allowing* traders to do what they like will be mildly popular. The main danger is that it so obviously is just a token tossed to backbenchers, instead of attending to the main issues of the day - a bit like a harassed Labour leadership nationalising the biscuit tin industry.
I am metric too, it is just better for work to calculate BMI etc.
I dont have a problem with both being legal units though.
I think the issue has been that, if shops want to sell in imperial only, the weights and measures inspectors have to have another set of standards to check their scales.
So a bit more bureaucratic hassle, which costs someone down the line, for what benefit, beyond warm fuzzies?
That doesn't seem to make much sense, surely they can convert from the metric of the standards they have to what an imperial scales should show?
It doesn't work like that. Weighing machines are checked by placing a standard 1kg mass on the scale. These standard masses are compared to the UK standard mass at the NPL. We don't have standard pounds anymore to check with as there is no UK standard pound anymore.
I would neither ask for a pound of apples nor a kilo of apples. If I want five apples, I ask for five apples. I have no idea how heavy a bag of five apples is.
Would depend on the size of the apples!
I always thought the weight of an average apple was about 1 Newton.
Well that was fun. Haven’t been to the theatre in a couple of years, for obvious reasons. I’ve just come out of the RSC’s final performance of Wars of the Roses.
The first part of their 3 into 2 Henry VI adaptation (‘Rebellion’) this afternoon was decidedly clunky, patchily acted and directed. This evening’s second part was much, much better.
If you get the chance, watch out for Arthur Hughes in the upcoming Richard III. He was mesmeric as Gloucester, and his last soliloquy in this… … Then, since the heavens have shaped my body so, Let hell make crook'd my mind to answer it. I have no brother, I am like no brother; And this word 'love,' which graybeards call divine, Be resident in men like one another And not in me: I am myself alone… promises a great deal for that production.
Bloody long day in their uncomfortable seats, though.
David Canzini is a shit Lynton Crosby tribute act.
Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? "The centre is slipping away to Starmer, so let's have some new policies that appeal only to the 30% who are still voting for us, and make us look like past-it one-hit wonders to the other 70%"?
Which says 23% "strongly support" and 20% "tend to support".
In other words: 23%, absolute tops, would even consider altering their vote for this thin gruel of a policy.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that this 23% are already voting Conservative.
I'm a metric man myself - no idea what my weight in stones is. But I expect that *allowing* traders to do what they like will be mildly popular. The main danger is that it so obviously is just a token tossed to backbenchers, instead of attending to the main issues of the day - a bit like a harassed Labour leadership nationalising the biscuit tin industry.
I am metric too, it is just better for work to calculate BMI etc.
I dont have a problem with both being legal units though.
I think the issue has been that, if shops want to sell in imperial only, the weights and measures inspectors have to have another set of standards to check their scales.
So a bit more bureaucratic hassle, which costs someone down the line, for what benefit, beyond warm fuzzies?
That doesn't seem to make much sense, surely they can convert from the metric of the standards they have to what an imperial scales should show?
It doesn't work like that. Weighing machines are checked by placing a standard 1kg mass on the scale. These standard masses are compared to the UK standard mass at the NPL. We don't have standard pounds anymore to check with as there is no UK standard pound anymore.
Can you even buy weighing machines for commerce that are imperial only. Seems like a non-issue.
The only people who will take advantage of this are the odd market trader who wants to sell some in terms of £ / pound of produce or sweets (and even then)....but will still use a dual reading scale.
David Canzini is a shit Lynton Crosby tribute act.
Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? "The centre is slipping away to Starmer, so let's have some new policies that appeal only to the 30% who are still voting for us, and make us look like past-it one-hit wonders to the other 70%"?
Which says 23% "strongly support" and 20% "tend to support".
In other words: 23%, absolute tops, would even consider altering their vote for this thin gruel of a policy.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that this 23% are already voting Conservative.
I'm a metric man myself - no idea what my weight in stones is. But I expect that *allowing* traders to do what they like will be mildly popular. The main danger is that it so obviously is just a token tossed to backbenchers, instead of attending to the main issues of the day - a bit like a harassed Labour leadership nationalising the biscuit tin industry.
I am metric too, it is just better for work to calculate BMI etc.
I dont have a problem with both being legal units though.
I think the issue has been that, if shops want to sell in imperial only, the weights and measures inspectors have to have another set of standards to check their scales.
So a bit more bureaucratic hassle, which costs someone down the line, for what benefit, beyond warm fuzzies?
That doesn't seem to make much sense, surely they can convert from the metric of the standards they have to what an imperial scales should show?
It doesn't work like that. Weighing machines are checked by placing a standard 1kg mass on the scale. These standard masses are compared to the UK standard mass at the NPL. We don't have standard pounds anymore to check with as there is no UK standard pound anymore.
I would neither ask for a pound of apples nor a kilo of apples. If I want five apples, I ask for five apples. I have no idea how heavy a bag of five apples is.
Would depend on the size of the apples!
I always thought the weight of an average apple was about 1 Newton.
Issac or Olivia?
It's better to have loved and lost than to have listened to an album by Olivia Newton John.
David Canzini is a shit Lynton Crosby tribute act.
Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? "The centre is slipping away to Starmer, so let's have some new policies that appeal only to the 30% who are still voting for us, and make us look like past-it one-hit wonders to the other 70%"?
Which says 23% "strongly support" and 20% "tend to support".
In other words: 23%, absolute tops, would even consider altering their vote for this thin gruel of a policy.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that this 23% are already voting Conservative.
I'm a metric man myself - no idea what my weight in stones is. But I expect that *allowing* traders to do what they like will be mildly popular. The main danger is that it so obviously is just a token tossed to backbenchers, instead of attending to the main issues of the day - a bit like a harassed Labour leadership nationalising the biscuit tin industry.
Or indeed the water industry, as they were obsessed by in 2017-18. I never understood why they (well I think it was just McDonnell) were so obsessed by that one.
I would neither ask for a pound of apples nor a kilo of apples. If I want five apples, I ask for five apples. I have no idea how heavy a bag of five apples is.
Would depend on the size of the apples!
I always thought the weight of an average apple was about 1 Newton.
Issac or Olivia?
It's better to have loved and lost than to have listened to an album by Olivia Newton John.
It's an outright admission of dorkery that that is something you have done.
I can barely contain my excitement and I’m sure younger people in particular will agree that having been robbed of their EU freedom of movement rights being able to ask for something in pounds and ounces will surely make up for that .
It will be so exciting , perhaps they can have a national holiday to celebrate the return of imperial measurements !
This country is becoming a joke with a fxcking clown as PM !
David Canzini is a shit Lynton Crosby tribute act.
Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? "The centre is slipping away to Starmer, so let's have some new policies that appeal only to the 30% who are still voting for us, and make us look like past-it one-hit wonders to the other 70%"?
Which says 23% "strongly support" and 20% "tend to support".
In other words: 23%, absolute tops, would even consider altering their vote for this thin gruel of a policy.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that this 23% are already voting Conservative.
I'm a metric man myself - no idea what my weight in stones is. But I expect that *allowing* traders to do what they like will be mildly popular. The main danger is that it so obviously is just a token tossed to backbenchers, instead of attending to the main issues of the day - a bit like a harassed Labour leadership nationalising the biscuit tin industry.
Or indeed the water industry, as they were obsessed by in 2017-18. I never understood why they (well I think it was just McDonnell) were so obsessed by that one.
Its not too hard to understand. Water is essential, the 'industry' a monopoly and the companies are run by shysters.
I see Mr Green was there, but definitely not Grant Shapps.
MPs don't get the final say on who the next Tory leader is and PM is if there is a successful VONC, Tory members do and remember last time they voted 66% Johnson 34% Hunt even before Johnson won a landslide general election victory.
Johnson I suspect would survive a VONC but even if he didn't there would be no coronation for Hunt, he would have to beat Sunak or Truss or Wallace or Patel or Raab first, one of whom would likely make the final 2.
David Canzini is a shit Lynton Crosby tribute act.
Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? "The centre is slipping away to Starmer, so let's have some new policies that appeal only to the 30% who are still voting for us, and make us look like past-it one-hit wonders to the other 70%"?
Which says 23% "strongly support" and 20% "tend to support".
In other words: 23%, absolute tops, would even consider altering their vote for this thin gruel of a policy.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that this 23% are already voting Conservative.
I'm a metric man myself - no idea what my weight in stones is. But I expect that *allowing* traders to do what they like will be mildly popular. The main danger is that it so obviously is just a token tossed to backbenchers, instead of attending to the main issues of the day - a bit like a harassed Labour leadership nationalising the biscuit tin industry.
Or indeed the water industry, as they were obsessed by in 2017-18. I never understood why they (well I think it was just McDonnell) were so obsessed by that one.
Its not to hard to understand. Water is essential, the 'industry' a monopoly and the companies are run by shysters.
Not sure what the downside would be - Russia's pissed off enough about what has been sent already after all.
I’d argue there isn’t and hasn’t been one for many weeks. Either we force Ukraine to capitulate by refusing them weapons, or we give them the tools they need to defeat the invasion.
I would neither ask for a pound of apples nor a kilo of apples. If I want five apples, I ask for five apples. I have no idea how heavy a bag of five apples is.
I would neither ask for a pound of apples nor a kilo of apples. If I want five apples, I ask for five apples. I have no idea how heavy a bag of five apples is.
Would depend on the size of the apples!
I always thought the weight of an average apple was about 1 Newton.
Issac or Olivia?
It's better to have loved and lost than to have listened to an album by Olivia Newton John.
It's an outright admission of dorkery that that is something you have done.
David Canzini is a shit Lynton Crosby tribute act.
Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? "The centre is slipping away to Starmer, so let's have some new policies that appeal only to the 30% who are still voting for us, and make us look like past-it one-hit wonders to the other 70%"?
Which says 23% "strongly support" and 20% "tend to support".
In other words: 23%, absolute tops, would even consider altering their vote for this thin gruel of a policy.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that this 23% are already voting Conservative.
I'm a metric man myself - no idea what my weight in stones is. But I expect that *allowing* traders to do what they like will be mildly popular. The main danger is that it so obviously is just a token tossed to backbenchers, instead of attending to the main issues of the day - a bit like a harassed Labour leadership nationalising the biscuit tin industry.
Yes, I just don't see how it really moves anything. I do know my weight in stones, and would have to think about what it is in kilos, but it's one of those things that pushing it as some grand action will look overblown.
For your amusement, when I was doing my A levels at the start of the 70s one of them was Further Maths. It was taught by an old, retired, Deputy Headmaster who had been brought back to teach that subject. The text books were in imperial units and we were taught for almost two years in those units, feet per second, foot pounds, PSI and so on. A month before the exam he revealed that the exam would be in metric units but of course "the formulas are the same". We had a month to learn how to do the same questions using metric units and I managed to get a grade E, which was barely a pass in those days.
David Canzini is a shit Lynton Crosby tribute act.
Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? "The centre is slipping away to Starmer, so let's have some new policies that appeal only to the 30% who are still voting for us, and make us look like past-it one-hit wonders to the other 70%"?
Which says 23% "strongly support" and 20% "tend to support".
In other words: 23%, absolute tops, would even consider altering their vote for this thin gruel of a policy.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that this 23% are already voting Conservative.
I'm a metric man myself - no idea what my weight in stones is. But I expect that *allowing* traders to do what they like will be mildly popular. The main danger is that it so obviously is just a token tossed to backbenchers, instead of attending to the main issues of the day - a bit like a harassed Labour leadership nationalising the biscuit tin industry.
Yes, I just don't see how it really moves anything. I do know my weight in stones, and would have to think about what it is in kilos, but it's one of those things that pushing it as some grand action will look overblown.
For your amusement, when I was doing my A levels at the start of the 70s one of them was Further Maths. It was taught by an old, retired, Deputy Headmaster who had been brought back to teach that subject. The text books were in imperial units and we were taught for almost two years in those units, feet per second, foot pounds, PSI and so on. A month before the exam he revealed that the exam would be in metric units but of course "the formulas are the same". We had a month to learn how to do the same questions using metric units and I managed to get a grade E, which was barely a pass in those days.
When I did my A-Level chemistry, one of my teachers was so lazy they didn't bother to check the syllabus updates every year, so over the course of a number of years obviously things changed. When it came to my year, we might as well have been taught for a totally different exam. This was only picked up a month before the exam when the teacher was ill and we had a stand-in who couldn't understand why we had learned a whole load of now irrelevant material (and didn't know some key things that were required).
Perhaps they don't like Englishmen abroad and want them not to come back. Incredibly.
I think more that they are so used to weekly civil unrest its a reflex action for the plod in Paris. I don't think the idiots who sit down on the motorway would last very long.
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As for the idea loyalists could trigger one, that'd be very silly indeed I think. Sure, he'd probably win - heck, May won hers let's remember, even without loyalists triggering it (as far as we know) - but it'd just be too big a risk for a leader to engage in. It's one thing daring people to put up or shut up, it is quite another to put a gun in their hand.
How would that affect things?
I’m in Hamburg atm In the pavements are small brass plaques bearing the names of Jews who lived in the building opposite the plaque who were murdered by the Nazis. That began with people deciding they could define someone by their biology alone. https://t.co/8Ih5wx5Bwb
It’s quite an eye-opener. The most obviously lawless suburb I have ever seen in Western Europe
It’s actually something of a surprise this kind of crap hasn’t happened before
Anyway here in Tbilisi it’s 1am and I’;m going to sleep. I really don’t care who wins this ludicrous game, esp after such a spectacle
Bon nuit, PB!
Christ I've learned some stuff on PB today.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0PqBUDKYh9c&noapp=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aPF-Rui09Y
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The game itself, not so funny. Come on we need at least an equaliser.
He's easily MoM so far, unfortunately.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_United_Kingdom_general_election#Graphical_summary
I’m surprised Labour haven’t taken this line much more. It worked very well in the 90s. The Tories have been in power for 12 years now. The trouble with being constantly outraged by them, rather than taking more of a tone of jaundiced contempt, is that the outrage keeps making them seem relevant and important. Divisive yes, but relevant. I’d prefer to see more along the lines of “he was the future once”.
Fucking apology for that la!
Of course its red meat for Brexit and timing politicial, but I think Labour would be silly to fall into elephant trap if really getting involved, as could be spun as look Labour at it again doing down Brexit supporters
24 shots so far vs Real's 3, but its only the 1 in the net that counts. 😕
He just needs to put one on the injury list for a year to be quite as effective.
Well done Courtois FC. 😢
Tories = Liverpool
I dont have a problem with both being legal units though.
https://twitter.com/StatsBomb/status/1530665065522790404?t=HJ6vioCRhatgKvd_1dRlXg&s=19
Look at this first quarter..
https://twitter.com/StatsBomb/status/1530641029082271744?t=yBAMccBBjgmBRPKKstFx0A&s=19
Tories soak up pressure from an opposition who can't score goals.
So a bit more bureaucratic hassle, which costs someone down the line, for what benefit, beyond warm fuzzies?
Could be worse, could be in Paris getting tear gassed by their rozzers.
Haven’t been to the theatre in a couple of years, for obvious reasons.
I’ve just come out of the RSC’s final performance of Wars of the Roses.
The first part of their 3 into 2 Henry VI adaptation (‘Rebellion’) this afternoon was decidedly clunky, patchily acted and directed. This evening’s second part was much, much better.
If you get the chance, watch out for Arthur Hughes in the upcoming Richard III. He was mesmeric as Gloucester, and his last soliloquy in this…
… Then, since the heavens have shaped my body so,
Let hell make crook'd my mind to answer it.
I have no brother, I am like no brother;
And this word 'love,' which graybeards call divine,
Be resident in men like one another
And not in me: I am myself alone…
promises a great deal for that production.
Bloody long day in their uncomfortable seats, though.
The only people who will take advantage of this are the odd market trader who wants to sell some in terms of £ / pound of produce or sweets (and even then)....but will still use a dual reading scale.
(edit: brain freeze)
U.S. leans toward sending rocket systems to Ukraine
Kyiv has been asking for the weapons for months, but no final decision has been made.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/27/u-s-sending-rocket-systems-ukraine-00035698
This afternoon:
US to transfer long-range rocket systems to Ukraine amid Donbas struggle: reports
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3504730-us-to-transfer-long-range-rocket-systems-to-ukraine-amid-donbas-struggle-reports/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10864185/Partygate-Secret-Tory-plot-topple-Boris-replace-Jeremy-Hunt.html
I see Mr Green was there, but definitely not Grant Shapps.
I can barely contain my excitement and I’m sure younger people in particular will agree that having been robbed of their EU freedom of movement rights being able to ask for something in pounds and ounces will surely make up for that .
It will be so exciting , perhaps they can have a national holiday to celebrate the return of imperial measurements !
This country is becoming a joke with a fxcking clown as PM !
Johnson I suspect would survive a VONC but even if he didn't there would be no coronation for Hunt, he would have to beat Sunak or Truss or Wallace or Patel or Raab first, one of whom would likely make the final 2.
Either we force Ukraine to capitulate by refusing them weapons, or we give them the tools they need to defeat the invasion.
A halfway house merely prolongs the conflict.
Can confirm that this is true. Bras have almost completely disappeared from the population of women in pubs. Yet another post-pandemic win.
What a bizarre state of affairs.
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