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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,068

    I should have given an example in my previous comment; here's one from Fareed Zakaria: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/04/21/russia-ukraine-oil-production-saudi-arabia-uae-gulf-states-security/

    The only plausible path to keep the pressure on Russia while not crippling the global economy is to get oil prices down. And the only sustainable way to do this is to get the world’s largest “swing producer,” Saudi Arabia, as well as other gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait, to increase production of oil.

    U.S. oil production is expanding as fast as it can. There are other paths worth trying — such as easing the embargo on Venezuela and returning to the Iran nuclear deal — but the gulf states can easily expand production by millions of barrels a day and keep those supplies flowing well into the future. Yet, despite several entreaties by the United States, Saudi Arabia and the UAE have refused to significantly increase production.
    And I have seen other serious people making similar arguments. (None of them have even mentioned Northern Ireland.)



    The Gulf producers cannot easily add millions of barrels a day to production. Most of them are at - or around - capacity already.

    They might be able to find an extra million barrels between them but that's about it.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,139
    Leon said:

    On the Northern Ireland - Good Friday Agreement - Brexit Conundrum:

    Might it be possible (following up on a notion by Leon that noted Hiberniophile) to designate Northern Ireland as a Special Trade Zone, with special rights within United Kingdom AND with the Republic of Ireland?

    With gory details (such as NI goods ending up in France via RoI, and RoI in England) worked out via arrangements (as non-obtrusive as possible) lubricated as necessary by US-UK-EU funding. As it would be a win-win-win from their perspectives. AND for Ireland South AND North - Protestant, Catholic and None of the Above.

    Plus setting a half-way positive example for Russians & etc.?

    My occasional trolling of Ireland is merely that. In all seriousness I’ve always thought the obvious endpoint of Norn Ireland is co-sovereignty. A special place governed from London AND Dublin - and with plenty of autonomy. Allowing the Irish to claim their Ireland is United yet allowing the Unionists to say the Union is preserved.

    It is already quite close to this in many respects. Passports, trade, sports - it’s all helpfully blurred

    With special access to the UK and EU markets Ulster would prosper mightily. Becoming a highly desirable place to invest (signs of this already)

    That has to get the endpoint. Neither side can “win” by defeating the other
    Absolutely agree. A condominium solution almost seems too obvious. As you say, it’s tantamount to what we have currently. People born in NI can already choose their nationality and the rugby and cricket teams are all-Ireland.
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 7,174

    Foxy said:

    I once had a cup of tea with Tony Benn.

    Not a mug?
    It was a polystyrene cup as I recall.

    In a railway station.

    Beat that.
    I got pissed with John Hurt when I was 18 and really pissed his agent off. He played Stephen Ward in Scandal so I'm counting it as proxy boozing with John Profumo kinda
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,899

    I once had a cup of tea with Tony Benn.

    We have that in common
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,825
    RobD said:

    I wonder if anyone foresaw this.

    Cryptocurrencies collapse after 'Black Wednesday' for blockchain
    Instability plagues so-called 'stablecoins' with almost $200bn knocked off all crypto


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/05/12/collapse-cryptocurrencies-likened-run-banks-value-terra-luna/

    Think of it as a transfer of wealth from the clinically dumb.
    Like most bubbles or Ponzi schemes, there will be plenty of poor people having their savings wiped out.
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    MightyAlexMightyAlex Posts: 1,460
    edited May 2022
    MaxPB said:

    theProle said:

    nico679 said:

    New scapegoats ready for the public beating are civil servants with Johnson wanting to axe 91,000 jobs .

    Savings will allegedly go into helping with the cost of living crisis . More pandering to the angry mob !

    You can’t just fire people overnight so this is the latest pile of nonsense to dupe the plebs .

    Savings will go towards paying the usual consultancy firms to do whatever it is the civil servants are currently doing.
    I'm fairly sure you there are 90k civil servants you could fire where hardly anyone would miss them (eg Public Health England, or whatever its called this week - spent the last twenty years whinging about kids eating McDonalds, then was slightly less effective than a chocolate fireguard when an actual pandemic came along). The trouble is that the civil service will ensure that it's not those ones who get the chop, but instead a selection of key frontline roles which will demonstrate how vital they all are.

    The only possible tactic for success I can see would be to have a systematic and brutal review of each area of the civil service with a view to the total abolition of parts of it, but somehow you have to avoid the civil service taking control of the reviewing process. That might just have been possible as a Dom/Gove project had Covid not happened; for all his faults Dom could spot civil service waste from space, but the civil service will run rings round the current bunch of halfwits.
    My wife works for UKHSA and I think you would find it’s staffed by diligent, dedicated people doing their best. As ever some of the leadership of PHE let the side down. But the tar the entire organisation like that is just crass.
    I think the point being made is that while they may do a good job, a lot of what they do is simply irrelevant and ultimately adds no value to the UK economy. It's like this scientific papers studying whether tigers prefer eating springbok or deer, I'm sure the people who write them are very smart and worked hard to research it, it's just that the research has little to no value.

    It's not easy to hear for civil servants that their jobs are of low or no value, yet in a huge number of cases it's probably true. Their hard work is simply wasted and they may be better off in sir other sector. One of the reason the civil service always scores poorly on job satisfaction is because of this, they realise that there's not a lot of value and it is demoralising.
    You tell 'em Max. Should be working in coffee shops like the rest of us.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,426

    Truss getting good rightwing headlines.


    Clearly the forthcoming tory leadership race matters more than the GFA.

    When did the "me, me, me" generation completely take over public life?

    Have you ever considered the thought that Truss may be doing the right thing, for the right reasons?
    No and no.
    Never. Never.



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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,426
    Adult in the room speaks...


    Matt Chorley
    @MattChorley
    ·
    1h
    EXCLUSIVE: Jeremy Hunt tells me that Johnson has a “big mountain to climb” if he is to lead the Tories to victory at the next election.

    Wrong time to change PM but refused to rule out 2nd run

    FULL INTERVIEW 11am FRIDAY
    @TimesRadio

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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,146

    Truss getting good rightwing headlines.


    Clearly the forthcoming tory leadership race matters more than the GFA.

    When did the "me, me, me" generation completely take over public life?

    Have you ever considered the thought that Truss may be doing the right thing, for the right reasons?
    No and no.
    Never. Never.
    “We are a contender.”
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,048

    Adult in the room speaks...


    Matt Chorley
    @MattChorley
    ·
    1h
    EXCLUSIVE: Jeremy Hunt tells me that Johnson has a “big mountain to climb” if he is to lead the Tories to victory at the next election.

    Wrong time to change PM but refused to rule out 2nd run

    FULL INTERVIEW 11am FRIDAY
    @TimesRadio

    When's the right time if not now?
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,144

    Foxy said:

    I once had a cup of tea with Tony Benn.

    Not a mug?
    It was a polystyrene cup as I recall.

    In a railway station.

    Beat that.
    That is W-A-Y too short on detail - for Sunil.
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,715

    Adult in the room speaks...


    Matt Chorley
    @MattChorley
    ·
    1h
    EXCLUSIVE: Jeremy Hunt tells me that Johnson has a “big mountain to climb” if he is to lead the Tories to victory at the next election.

    Wrong time to change PM but refused to rule out 2nd run

    FULL INTERVIEW 11am FRIDAY
    @TimesRadio

    To mix metaphors, he may have a mountain to climb, but you ought to be throwing him off the cliff, Mr Hunt.

    Night all.
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    carnforthcarnforth Posts: 3,238
    dixiedean said:

    I think the main lesson the West should be taking from Ukraine to deter a future invasion of Taiwan is to arm them to the teeth.

    That is one.
    In addition. How about investing in Taiwanese companies? Visiting the island on holiday? (It's got lovely beaches, and the climate of Florida. With a bit more rain). And a damn sight more history.
    And gently pointing out that there is only one China, but a serious dispute as to who it is at every and any opportunity.
    Taiwan is pretty (mostly). But one must watch for language issues:



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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,144
    RobD said:

    I wonder if anyone foresaw this.

    Cryptocurrencies collapse after 'Black Wednesday' for blockchain
    Instability plagues so-called 'stablecoins' with almost $200bn knocked off all crypto


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/05/12/collapse-cryptocurrencies-likened-run-banks-value-terra-luna/

    Think of it as a transfer of wealth from the clinically dumb.
    The Russian kleptocracy?
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    carnforthcarnforth Posts: 3,238
    carnforth said:

    dixiedean said:

    I think the main lesson the West should be taking from Ukraine to deter a future invasion of Taiwan is to arm them to the teeth.

    That is one.
    In addition. How about investing in Taiwanese companies? Visiting the island on holiday? (It's got lovely beaches, and the climate of Florida. With a bit more rain). And a damn sight more history.
    And gently pointing out that there is only one China, but a serious dispute as to who it is at every and any opportunity.
    Taiwan is pretty (mostly). But one must watch for language issues:



    And, apparently, vanilla thinks it’s in the southern hemisphere.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,426
    “I have served for five years in the army. My contract ends in June. I will serve my remaining time and then I am out of here,” he said. “I have nothing to be ashamed of. We aren’t officially in a state of war, so they could not force me to go.”

    Under Russian military rules, troops who refuse to fight in Ukraine can face dismissal but cannot be prosecuted,

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/12/they-were-furious-the-russian-soldiers-refusing-to-fight-in-ukraine?CMP=share_btn_tw
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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,151
    edited May 2022

    I wonder if anyone foresaw this.

    Cryptocurrencies collapse after 'Black Wednesday' for blockchain
    Instability plagues so-called 'stablecoins' with almost $200bn knocked off all crypto


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/05/12/collapse-cryptocurrencies-likened-run-banks-value-terra-luna/

    Max Keiser (afaict from his 100mph stream of consciousness) still believes. This is the cleansing fire that will get rid of the grifters and conmen seems to be his take.
    I don't know what the f**k the Treasury are smoking talking about "legislate to allow the use of stablecoins as a form of payment". The state should not be going anywhere near Ponzicoins except to warn people of the danger of them.
    There are a few different types of stablecoins.

    * 1) Trusted-party backed by dollars in a bank: None currently exist
    * 2) Trusted-party backed by actual assets: (probably) USDC
    * 3) Trusted-party backed by assets that probably don't exist: USDT
    * 4) Algorithmic with more than 100% external collateral: DAI, RAI
    * 5) Algorithmic with less than 100% external collateral: UST and many others, every single one of which has failed in the same totally predictable way

    They should leave (4) alone. These designs do seem to actually work, but if they turn out not to they're still in the "legitimate experimentation" space.

    They could ban (5) but I don't suppose that would stop the brainiacs who keep buying them from buying them, and if they didn't lose money in those they'd lose their money in a different kind of ponzi scheme. I'm not sure they could draft legislation to do this without either gaping loopholes or accidentally banning a load of stuff they don't intend.

    The space for regulation is 1 - 3, which are already operating inside the regulated banking system. The people behind Tether should be in jail, USDC could probably be more transparent, and governments might consider making (1) themselves if they care more about stopping people getting robbed than using the banking system for generalized law enforcement.
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,541
    Platinum Jubilee: Lemon and amaretti trifle to be official pudding
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61428970

    Just rejoice at that news.
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    Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,518
    rcs1000 said:
    The Gulf producers cannot easily add millions of barrels a day to production. Most of them are at - or around - capacity already.

    They might be able to find an extra million barrels between them but that's about it.
    This CNN story gives a higher number:
    Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates
    The two countries have the lion's share of OPEC's spare capacity that is readily available, said Amena Bakr, chief OPEC correspondent at Energy Intelligence, at roughly 2.5 million bpd.
    But OPEC's largest producer Saudi Arabia has repeatedly dismissed US requests to increase production beyond a long- standing quota agreed with Russia and other non-OPEC producers, and is unlikely to heed European calls to raise output.
    source: https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/09/business/mideast-oil-eu-mime-intl/index.html

    I don't claim to be qualified to judge among the competing estimates, but I would say that much would depend on how far ahead one is looking. The answer, I assume, would be quite different if you were looking 30 days ahead, or 1 year. And I think we should be preparing for the possibility that this war will last at least a year.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,825
    edited May 2022

    Platinum Jubilee: Lemon and amaretti trifle to be official pudding
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61428970

    Just rejoice at that news.

    Sounds rather lovely.

    I have a soft spot for trifle as my mother didn't like it, so I only got that forbidden treat at other childrens parties.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,068

    rcs1000 said:

    The Gulf producers cannot easily add millions of barrels a day to production. Most of them are at - or around - capacity already.

    They might be able to find an extra million barrels between them but that's about it.
    This CNN story gives a higher number:
    Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates
    The two countries have the lion's share of OPEC's spare capacity that is readily available, said Amena Bakr, chief OPEC correspondent at Energy Intelligence, at roughly 2.5 million bpd.
    But OPEC's largest producer Saudi Arabia has repeatedly dismissed US requests to increase production beyond a long- standing quota agreed with Russia and other non-OPEC producers, and is unlikely to heed European calls to raise output.
    source: https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/09/business/mideast-oil-eu-mime-intl/index.html

    I don't claim to be qualified to judge among the competing estimates, but I would say that much would depend on how far ahead one is looking. The answer, I assume, would be quite different if you were looking 30 days ahead, or 1 year. And I think we should be preparing for the possibility that this war will last at least a year.

    So... in the short to medium term, the way Saudi would increase production would be by injecting more water into the wells. However... that's not costless, and might negatively effect ultimate recovery rates. I think they would be very wary of doing so.

    If you are happy to take a longer term view, then there are some sour crudes in Saudi that could (and will be) developed. But that's not going to happen for years.

    The ultimate problem for oil production is this: no-one believes that the oil price is going to remain at current levels for ever, and therefore (outside of short payback production like tight oil in the US) there is limited desire to spend money on production that only comes on stream when oil is $40/barrel.
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    ApplicantApplicant Posts: 3,379
    theProle said:

    nico679 said:

    New scapegoats ready for the public beating are civil servants with Johnson wanting to axe 91,000 jobs .

    Savings will allegedly go into helping with the cost of living crisis . More pandering to the angry mob !

    You can’t just fire people overnight so this is the latest pile of nonsense to dupe the plebs .

    Savings will go towards paying the usual consultancy firms to do whatever it is the civil servants are currently doing.
    I'm fairly sure you there are 90k civil servants you could fire where hardly anyone would miss them (eg Public Health England, or whatever its called this week - spent the last twenty years whinging about kids eating McDonalds, then was slightly less effective than a chocolate fireguard when an actual pandemic came along). The trouble is that the civil service will ensure that it's not those ones who get the chop, but instead a selection of key frontline roles which will demonstrate how vital they all are.

    The only possible tactic for success I can see would be to have a systematic and brutal review of each area of the civil service with a view to the total abolition of parts of it, but somehow you have to avoid the civil service taking control of the reviewing process. That might just have been possible as a Dom/Gove project had Covid not happened; for all his faults Dom could spot civil service waste from space, but the civil service will run rings round the current bunch of halfwits.
    To be fair to PHE, it's not their fault that the media panicked the government into binning the pandemic strategy they had created.
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    Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,029
    edited May 2022
    Farooq said:



    It would be a big mistake for the EU to let Ukraine in in its present state. It's a worthwhile ambition, but as a tactical move it would be terrible.

    Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries on Earth before the war and now it's barely a functioning state and economic black hole on top of that. So, on paper, Macron is right; they are decades away from meeting the requirements from EU membership.

    However, as the Motoring Barnard Castle Optician recently observed, Zelensky has a P.T. Barnum like ability to exploit emotional spasms. So some sort of semi-detached status (with a shared driveway) might be possible for them. As long as Zelensky doesn't get wasted by the GRU.

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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,001

    Foxy said:

    I wonder if anyone foresaw this.

    Cryptocurrencies collapse after 'Black Wednesday' for blockchain
    Instability plagues so-called 'stablecoins' with almost $200bn knocked off all crypto


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/05/12/collapse-cryptocurrencies-likened-run-banks-value-terra-luna/

    Only a matter of time...
    Does this mean Musk can't afford to put Orange Man back on Twitter in time to wreck American democracy in 2024?
    ? Why would crypto affect that. He's bought a few billion of crypto iirc but it's fluff round the edges to Musk. His wealth source is mostly $TSLA
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,068
    Pulpstar said:

    Foxy said:

    I wonder if anyone foresaw this.

    Cryptocurrencies collapse after 'Black Wednesday' for blockchain
    Instability plagues so-called 'stablecoins' with almost $200bn knocked off all crypto


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/05/12/collapse-cryptocurrencies-likened-run-banks-value-terra-luna/

    Only a matter of time...
    Does this mean Musk can't afford to put Orange Man back on Twitter in time to wreck American democracy in 2024?
    ? Why would crypto affect that. He's bought a few billion of crypto iirc but it's fluff round the edges to Musk. His wealth source is mostly $TSLA
    TSLA is 40% off its highs, though. And Musk was using Tesla stock as collateral to borrow the money to buy Twitter.

    His bankers demand a safety margin; the lower the Tesla share price, the harder it becomes for him.
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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 12,631
    Foxy said:

    Platinum Jubilee: Lemon and amaretti trifle to be official pudding
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61428970

    Just rejoice at that news.

    Sounds rather lovely.

    I have a soft spot for trifle as my mother didn't like it, so I only got that forbidden treat at other childrens parties.
    Rarely have such illicit pandering borne fruit from a mere trifle
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,802
    Foxy said:

    Platinum Jubilee: Lemon and amaretti trifle to be official pudding
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61428970

    Just rejoice at that news.

    Sounds rather lovely.

    I have a soft spot for trifle as my mother didn't like it, so I only got that forbidden treat at other childrens parties.
    Me too.
    Though in my case as my mum made a knockout sherry trifle with proper egg custard and lots of sherry soaked biscuits, on special occasions.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,802
    rcs1000 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Foxy said:

    I wonder if anyone foresaw this.

    Cryptocurrencies collapse after 'Black Wednesday' for blockchain
    Instability plagues so-called 'stablecoins' with almost $200bn knocked off all crypto


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/05/12/collapse-cryptocurrencies-likened-run-banks-value-terra-luna/

    Only a matter of time...
    Does this mean Musk can't afford to put Orange Man back on Twitter in time to wreck American democracy in 2024?
    ? Why would crypto affect that. He's bought a few billion of crypto iirc but it's fluff round the edges to Musk. His wealth source is mostly $TSLA
    TSLA is 40% off its highs, though. And Musk was using Tesla stock as collateral to borrow the money to buy Twitter.

    His bankers demand a safety margin; the lower the Tesla share price, the harder it becomes for him.
    Hasn't he already sold sufficient stock to make it quite doable ?
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,802
    edited May 2022
    Dura_Ace said:

    Farooq said:



    It would be a big mistake for the EU to let Ukraine in in its present state. It's a worthwhile ambition, but as a tactical move it would be terrible.

    Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries on Earth before the war and now it's barely a functioning state and economic black hole on top of that. So, on paper, Macron is right; they are decades away from meeting the requirements from EU membership.

    However, as the Motoring Barnard Castle Optician recently observed, Zelensky has a P.T. Barnum like ability to exploit emotional spasms. So some sort of semi-detached status (with a shared driveway) might be possible for them. As long as Zelensky doesn't get wasted by the GRU.

    'Decades' is a load of crap.
    They had started rapid reform before the war.
    Zelensky isn't just smoke and mirrors as you imply, and the process is likely to continue with or without him.

    GRU bit is right, though.

    Putin sidelines FSB over intelligence failures in Ukraine
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/putin-sidelines-fsb-over-intelligence-failings-in-ukraine-nw0d7zh25
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,802
    Nuts that a single senator is allowed hold up legislation in this manner. And no, it's not the constitution.

    Defiant U.S. Senator Rand Paul stymies effort to pass $40 billion Ukraine aid bill
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/defiant-us-senator-rand-paul-stymies-effort-pass-40-billion-ukraine-aid-bill-2022-05-12/
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,802
    edited May 2022
    Dura_Ace said:

    Farooq said:



    It would be a big mistake for the EU to let Ukraine in in its present state. It's a worthwhile ambition, but as a tactical move it would be terrible.

    Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries on Earth before the war and now it's barely a functioning state and economic black hole on top of that. So, on paper, Macron is right; they are decades away from meeting the requirements from EU membership...

    And how long did it take the rest of the former Eastern European Soviet colonies - which weren't even democracies when they escaped the Russian sphere ?
    'Decades' is just Macron being Macron.
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,261
    Nigelb said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Farooq said:



    It would be a big mistake for the EU to let Ukraine in in its present state. It's a worthwhile ambition, but as a tactical move it would be terrible.

    Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries on Earth before the war and now it's barely a functioning state and economic black hole on top of that. So, on paper, Macron is right; they are decades away from meeting the requirements from EU membership.

    However, as the Motoring Barnard Castle Optician recently observed, Zelensky has a P.T. Barnum like ability to exploit emotional spasms. So some sort of semi-detached status (with a shared driveway) might be possible for them. As long as Zelensky doesn't get wasted by the GRU.

    'Decades' is a load of crap.
    They had started rapid reform before the war.
    Zelensky isn't just smoke and mirrors as you imply, and the process is likely to continue with or without him.

    GRU bit is right, though.

    Putin sidelines FSB over intelligence failures in Ukraine
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/putin-sidelines-fsb-over-intelligence-failings-in-ukraine-nw0d7zh25
    Grim thought, but I wonder if in Vlad world Zelenskyy being assassinated would be seen as some kind of compensatory victory after a pretty obvious clusterfcuk. Insofar as anyone has a clue about what goes on in Putin's mind I can imagine a lot of personal antipathy there, and he doesn't seem the type not to give in to his baser urges.
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,125
    edited May 2022
    Apparently calling someone a 'baldy' amounts to sexual harassment - just as well there are no prominent members of the PB fraternity who are follicularly challenged enough to merit such abuse.....
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,541
    New thread.
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    JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,017
    Nigelb said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Farooq said:



    It would be a big mistake for the EU to let Ukraine in in its present state. It's a worthwhile ambition, but as a tactical move it would be terrible.

    Ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries on Earth before the war and now it's barely a functioning state and economic black hole on top of that. So, on paper, Macron is right; they are decades away from meeting the requirements from EU membership.

    However, as the Motoring Barnard Castle Optician recently observed, Zelensky has a P.T. Barnum like ability to exploit emotional spasms. So some sort of semi-detached status (with a shared driveway) might be possible for them. As long as Zelensky doesn't get wasted by the GRU.

    'Decades' is a load of crap.
    They had started rapid reform before the war.
    Zelensky isn't just smoke and mirrors as you imply, and the process is likely to continue with or without him.

    GRU bit is right, though.

    Putin sidelines FSB over intelligence failures in Ukraine
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/putin-sidelines-fsb-over-intelligence-failings-in-ukraine-nw0d7zh25
    It took Lithuania 13 years from being part of the Soviet Union to joining the EU.
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