Read Lee Anderson's whole speech. Seemed pretty plausible to me. But if course to some posters here as he's a Conservative he must be inherently evil.
There is a lot of truth in what he says and if you see the queues at McDonald's drive through and the number of home takeaways being delivered, the food is not healthy and is expensive compared to cooking at home
Mind you I expect many do cook at home anyway
His problem is that perhaps he didn't see that his argument would be present as follows. Perhaps he wants the publicity?
Suella Braverman was made Attorney-General solely to supply Boris Johnson with cover to flout the law. Of all the PM’s appointments, hers has been the most egregious.
My breakfast was 3 Wheat Biscuits (Morrisons 24 pack - 74p) A small portion of milk (Morrisons 2pint semi - skinned 99p) So 3x3.1 = 9p plus say 5p for milk = 14p
I salute anyone who can stick non-weetabix weetabix. Or any wheat biscuit with that little milk.
I had four poached eggs (66p) on two slices of toast (10p). Keep the yolks soft to avoid the need for butter. Salt generously. 360 cals.
My breakfast was 3 Wheat Biscuits (Morrisons 24 pack - 74p) A small portion of milk (Morrisons 2pint semi - skinned 99p) So 3x3.1 = 9p plus say 5p for milk = 14p
I salute anyone who can stick non-weetabix weetabix. Or any wheat biscuit with that little milk.
I had four poached eggs (66p) on two slices of toast (10p). Keep the yolks soft to avoid the need for butter. Salt generously. 360 cals.
I love eggs - not a milk man only drink black coffee the stronger the better - haven't had a cup of tea in over 50 years
HYUFD should be applauded for his honesty. The UK government’s decision to flout the rule of law, trigger trade sanctions and imperil peace in Northern Ireland is all about getting the DUP on board to support a possible minority Tory government after the next election.
My breakfast was 3 Wheat Biscuits (Morrisons 24 pack - 74p) A small portion of milk (Morrisons 2pint semi - skinned 99p) So 3x3.1 = 9p plus say 5p for milk = 14p
Plus an espresso from your £2,000 state of the art coffee machine?
And there is a zero chance of the cabinet supporting a windfall tax, firstly after the last couple of months explaining the damage it would do to vital investment, it would be too much a drop of credibility. But more importantly it makes Starmer the winner, will instantly make Starmer and Labour appear leading on ideas and innovation and the Tories bereft of ideas having to follow.
In the same link above it has Wikipedia rejecting Daily Mail as editors becuase they make too much up. 😃 So can we even believe this front page story? More likely it’s a standard request from chancellor to cost all the options for an options paper being spun ridiculously by a newspapers editor team that’s slipping into some form of crisis. Not least because they have made Amanda Plattel look very much like my mother and splayed that on the front page so I had to make a double take. 🫣
My breakfast was 3 Wheat Biscuits (Morrisons 24 pack - 74p) A small portion of milk (Morrisons 2pint semi - skinned 99p) So 3x3.1 = 9p plus say 5p for milk = 14p
16p left for rest of the day then.
I recommend half a pack of ALDI midget Gems (14.5p)
My breakfast was 3 Wheat Biscuits (Morrisons 24 pack - 74p) A small portion of milk (Morrisons 2pint semi - skinned 99p) So 3x3.1 = 9p plus say 5p for milk = 14p
Plus an espresso from your £2,000 state of the art coffee machine?
nah - come on I'm an ex council lad - only Camp for me
Ah. Ok. It's not a war, it's a turbo military operation...
Francis Scarr @francis_scarr · 1h Interesting from Vladimir Solovyov tonight:
He says the huge Victory Day turnout was "such a mandate" for Putin that he can count on Russians' full support if he shifts the "special military operation" up to a "turbo military operation"
The other point is that the Tories are pointing to areas they went forward in. Such as Newcastle-under-Lyme, Nuneaton and Hartlepool. That's all very creditable. But they already hold those places in Westminster. They went badly backwards in a lot of other areas they need to hold. Cumbria 5 seats, Somerset 5, Barnet 3. West Yorkshire and Wales., cba but a fair few. Surrey all 10. Those begin to add up. And yes, there's swingback and mid-terms. But hands up who thinks it's going to improve any time soon. An 80 majority is super tough to overturn in one go. But it's their efficiency of vote which seems to be wearing off. The Tories maxxed out on it since 2015.
Compared to 2021 there was a swing to Labour in Hartlepool.
And there is a zero chance of the cabinet supporting a windfall tax, firstly after the last couple of months explaining the damage it would do to vital investment, it would be too much a drop of credibility. But more importantly it makes Starmer the winner, will instantly make Starmer and Labour appear leading on ideas and innovation and the Tories bereft of ideas having to follow.
In the same link above it has Wikipedia rejecting Daily Mail as editors becuase they make too much up. 😃 So can we even believe this front page story? More likely it’s a standard request from chancellor to cost all the options for an options paper being spun ridiculously by a newspapers editor team that’s slipping into some form of crisis. Not least because they have made Amanda Plattel look very much like my mother and splayed that on the front page so I had to make a double take. 🫣
So on Wiki and Daily Mail we are not going to see "roasting temperatures for rest of May"
My breakfast was 3 Wheat Biscuits (Morrisons 24 pack - 74p) A small portion of milk (Morrisons 2pint semi - skinned 99p) So 3x3.1 = 9p plus say 5p for milk = 14p
16p left for rest of the day then.
I recommend half a pack of ALDI midget Gems (14.5p)
My breakfast was 3 Wheat Biscuits (Morrisons 24 pack - 74p) A small portion of milk (Morrisons 2pint semi - skinned 99p) So 3x3.1 = 9p plus say 5p for milk = 14p
Plus an espresso from your £2,000 state of the art coffee machine?
nah - come on I'm an ex council lad - only Camp for me
My mother keeps Camp Coffee in for making coffee cakes. Works really well. I have never tried using it to make a drink...
My breakfast was 3 Wheat Biscuits (Morrisons 24 pack - 74p) A small portion of milk (Morrisons 2pint semi - skinned 99p) So 3x3.1 = 9p plus say 5p for milk = 14p
The other point is that the Tories are pointing to areas they went forward in. Such as Newcastle-under-Lyme, Nuneaton and Hartlepool. That's all very creditable. But they already hold those places in Westminster. They went badly backwards in a lot of other areas they need to hold. Cumbria 5 seats, Somerset 5, Barnet 3. West Yorkshire and Wales., cba but a fair few. Surrey all 10. Those begin to add up. And yes, there's swingback and mid-terms. But hands up who thinks it's going to improve any time soon. An 80 majority is super tough to overturn in one go. But it's their efficiency of vote which seems to be wearing off. The Tories maxxed out on it since 2015.
Compared to 2021 there was a swing to Labour in Hartlepool.
Do we just cherry pick Labours worst results in each Constituency and compare with that year now?
Sir John Curtice pilloried Lab attempt to compare 2022 with 2019 rather than the natural cycle of 2018
If I was Truss or Hunt I would be checking underneath the car every time I headed out.
There are rumours about moving Truss to the Treasury after Sunak is dumped.
Which will probably have the same effect on her prospects of promotion.
Cummings tweeted some gossip today about a plan for an “emergency budget”, and the inactivity so far on cost of living to be blamed on Sunak.
So yes, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him kneecapped.
The hilarous thing is that whichever poor sod goes to No 11 in his place is equally stuffed, becuase the economy is going to get worse before it gets better, and there's a time lag between actions and consequences. (Oh, and you-know-what will continue to act as a deadweight on propsperity.) So two rivals destroyed for the price of one.
At some point, smarter Conservatives will realise that BoJo is happy for them all to burn, as long as it buys him another hour as top bananna. But that realisation is already too late for a load of ex-councillors.
And there is a zero chance of the cabinet supporting a windfall tax, firstly after the last couple of months explaining the damage it would do to vital investment, it would be too much a drop of credibility. But more importantly it makes Starmer the winner, will instantly make Starmer and Labour appear leading on ideas and innovation and the Tories bereft of ideas having to follow.
In the same link above it has Wikipedia rejecting Daily Mail as editors becuase they make too much up. 😃 So can we even believe this front page story? More likely it’s a standard request from chancellor to cost all the options for an options paper being spun ridiculously by a newspapers editor team that’s slipping into some form of crisis. Not least because they have made Amanda Plattel look very much like my mother and splayed that on the front page so I had to make a double take. 🫣
So on Wiki and Daily Mail we are not going to see "roasting temperatures for rest of May"
Bugger
You are definitely on sharp form tonight BJO! 👍🏻
After six months on PB I have never seen this before.
My breakfast was 3 Wheat Biscuits (Morrisons 24 pack - 74p) A small portion of milk (Morrisons 2pint semi - skinned 99p) So 3x3.1 = 9p plus say 5p for milk = 14p
Plus an espresso from your £2,000 state of the art coffee machine?
nah - come on I'm an ex council lad - only Camp for me
My mother keeps Camp Coffee in for making coffee cakes. Works really well. I have never tried using it to make a drink...
You must be posh then if you have never had Camp coffee - a wonderful taste
My breakfast was 3 Wheat Biscuits (Morrisons 24 pack - 74p) A small portion of milk (Morrisons 2pint semi - skinned 99p) So 3x3.1 = 9p plus say 5p for milk = 14p
The other point is that the Tories are pointing to areas they went forward in. Such as Newcastle-under-Lyme, Nuneaton and Hartlepool. That's all very creditable. But they already hold those places in Westminster. They went badly backwards in a lot of other areas they need to hold. Cumbria 5 seats, Somerset 5, Barnet 3. West Yorkshire and Wales., cba but a fair few. Surrey all 10. Those begin to add up. And yes, there's swingback and mid-terms. But hands up who thinks it's going to improve any time soon. An 80 majority is super tough to overturn in one go. But it's their efficiency of vote which seems to be wearing off. The Tories maxxed out on it since 2015.
Compared to 2021 there was a swing to Labour in Hartlepool.
Do we just cherry pick Labours worst results in each Constituency and compare with that year now?
Sir John Curtice pilloried Lab attempt to compare 2022 with 2019 rather than the natural cycle of 2018
Not really going to work mate.
Yes, last year was shit, but things are heading in the right direction. Still a lot further to go, I agree.
Remember, I'm no SKS pompom waver, I voted for Nandy. But I want us to succeed, and kick Bozo and his mates out at the next GE.
My breakfast was 3 Wheat Biscuits (Morrisons 24 pack - 74p) A small portion of milk (Morrisons 2pint semi - skinned 99p) So 3x3.1 = 9p plus say 5p for milk = 14p
Plus an espresso from your £2,000 state of the art coffee machine?
nah - come on I'm an ex council lad - only Camp for me
My mother keeps Camp Coffee in for making coffee cakes. Works really well. I have never tried using it to make a drink...
You must be posh then if you have never had Camp coffee - a wonderful taste
Whilst poor (as a student) I once bought Sainsbury's "Basics" ground coffee at £1.25 per 250g. 100% robusta. Rough as hell.
For fans of particularly bitter coffee, go to an middle-eastern store and buy Iranian coffee with green cardamom pods mixed it. Serious (but good) stuff.
My breakfast was 3 Wheat Biscuits (Morrisons 24 pack - 74p) A small portion of milk (Morrisons 2pint semi - skinned 99p) So 3x3.1 = 9p plus say 5p for milk = 14p
Can last several hours if you just suck
As the Bishop said to the actress?
Respect due to that bishop.....
Especially if he was only paying 14.5 p for the experience.
Well below the minimum wage actress must be a complete sucker
Not I. It was stupid from Labour - and it will be stupid from Rishi.
If you go for a windfall tax in the good times, is the Govt. going to be there to bail out every company when they are going bust?
No. It's a money grab "because they can/are desperate". It is not in any way a coherent strategy.
The robust and correct response here is; deepwater Horizon cost you, what, $64bn? And you are still here? So thanks for setting that benchmark for affordability.
Unless you are talking to Shell in which case you say, you are still here too with an extra $64bn which you didn't pay out.
And as for the widows and orphans who rely on FTSE100 divvies to keep the wolf from the door, those are rich widows and orphans, there's plenty of people with no exposure to BP divvies either directly or via non-state pensions, so you are just redistributing from the rich to the poor.
My breakfast was 3 Wheat Biscuits (Morrisons 24 pack - 74p) A small portion of milk (Morrisons 2pint semi - skinned 99p) So 3x3.1 = 9p plus say 5p for milk = 14p
Plus an espresso from your £2,000 state of the art coffee machine?
nah - come on I'm an ex council lad - only Camp for me
My mother keeps Camp Coffee in for making coffee cakes. Works really well. I have never tried using it to make a drink...
You must be posh then if you have never had Camp coffee - a wonderful taste
Whilst poor (as a student) I once bought Sainsbury's "Basics" ground coffee at £1.25 per 250g. 100% robusta. Rough as hell.
For fans of particularly bitter coffee, go to an middle-eastern store and buy Iranian coffee with green cardamom pods mixed it. Serious (but good) stuff.
I once bought a bag of coffee from a pound shop. Packaged to resemble Lavazza.
Didn't know this - Camp Coffee was created in Scotland in the late 19th century, Camp Coffee was one of the first attempts at instant coffee. It's said that the brown, syrupy liquid—a blend of coffee, chicory, water, and sugar—was invented for the Scottish regiment of the Gordon Highlanders to bring on campaigns abroad.
My breakfast was 3 Wheat Biscuits (Morrisons 24 pack - 74p) A small portion of milk (Morrisons 2pint semi - skinned 99p) So 3x3.1 = 9p plus say 5p for milk = 14p
Plus an espresso from your £2,000 state of the art coffee machine?
nah - come on I'm an ex council lad - only Camp for me
My mother keeps Camp Coffee in for making coffee cakes. Works really well. I have never tried using it to make a drink...
You must be posh then if you have never had Camp coffee - a wonderful taste
Whilst poor (as a student) I once bought Sainsbury's "Basics" ground coffee at £1.25 per 250g. 100% robusta. Rough as hell.
For fans of particularly bitter coffee, go to an middle-eastern store and buy Iranian coffee with green cardamom pods mixed it. Serious (but good) stuff.
My breakfast was 3 Wheat Biscuits (Morrisons 24 pack - 74p) A small portion of milk (Morrisons 2pint semi - skinned 99p) So 3x3.1 = 9p plus say 5p for milk = 14p
Plus an espresso from your £2,000 state of the art coffee machine?
nah - come on I'm an ex council lad - only Camp for me
My mother keeps Camp Coffee in for making coffee cakes. Works really well. I have never tried using it to make a drink...
You must be posh then if you have never had Camp coffee - a wonderful taste
Read Lee Anderson's whole speech. Seemed pretty plausible to me. But if course to some posters here as he's a Conservative he must be inherently evil.
There is a lot of truth in what he says and if you see the queues at McDonald's drive through and the number of home takeaways being delivered, the food is not healthy and is expensive compared to cooking at home
Mind you I expect many do cook at home anyway
Everything has a time and a place. I can and do cook very well, but yesterday I was tired and hungry about 3 hours from home, and the McDonald's drive through in Penrith was a much better solution than cooking something at home at midnight.
My breakfast was 3 Wheat Biscuits (Morrisons 24 pack - 74p) A small portion of milk (Morrisons 2pint semi - skinned 99p) So 3x3.1 = 9p plus say 5p for milk = 14p
Plus an espresso from your £2,000 state of the art coffee machine?
nah - come on I'm an ex council lad - only Camp for me
My mother keeps Camp Coffee in for making coffee cakes. Works really well. I have never tried using it to make a drink...
You must be posh then if you have never had Camp coffee - a wonderful taste
Homophobic probably
Wondering who would be the first to crack that one
I wish reporters would just ask the DUP what they thought would happen with Brexit ?
Wtf did they support that and even worse a hard Brexit?
The suspicion is they wanted a hard border between NI and Ireland .
They want a hard border, their GB allies want Brexit to still be a thing, each needs the other.
Do they want a hard border?
They want to cement a long-term separation which keeps NI in UK permanently. That includes rowing back to the greatest extent possible on Belfast Agreement institutions including strong support for direct rule. Note that the government's case is based on defending the Belfast Agreement yet the DUP (and other parties) have regularly boycotted GFA institutions, not only the Executive and the devolution of powers to NI but also the more obscure strands like cross-border ministerial cooperation. Much like shenanigans by their Tory pals across the water, the DUP's cross-border cooperation boycott was found to be a breach of their legal obligations but a remedy was not found to be enforcable.
And there is a zero chance of the cabinet supporting a windfall tax, firstly after the last couple of months explaining the damage it would do to vital investment, it would be too much a drop of credibility. But more importantly it makes Starmer the winner, will instantly make Starmer and Labour appear leading on ideas and innovation and the Tories bereft of ideas having to follow.
In the same link above it has Wikipedia rejecting Daily Mail as editors becuase they make too much up. 😃 So can we even believe this front page story? More likely it’s a standard request from chancellor to cost all the options for an options paper being spun ridiculously by a newspapers editor team that’s slipping into some form of crisis. Not least because they have made Amanda Plattel look very much like my mother and splayed that on the front page so I had to make a double take. 🫣
So on Wiki and Daily Mail we are not going to see "roasting temperatures for rest of May"
Bugger
Imminent heatwave for UK? The Norwegian weather office don’t think so. This is Derby weather for next week John.
I wish reporters would just ask the DUP what they thought would happen with Brexit ?
Wtf did they support that and even worse a hard Brexit?
The suspicion is they wanted a hard border between NI and Ireland .
They want a hard border, their GB allies want Brexit to still be a thing, each needs the other.
Do they want a hard border?
They want to cement a long-term separation which keeps NI in UK permanently. That includes rowing back to the greatest extent possible on Belfast Agreement institutions including strong support for direct rule. Note that the government's case is based on defending the Belfast Agreement yet the DUP (and other parties) have regularly boycotted GFA institutions, not only the Executive and the devolution of powers to NI but also the more obscure strands like cross-border ministerial cooperation. Much like shenanigans by their Tory pals across the water, the DUP's cross-border cooperation boycott was found to be a breach of their legal obligations but a remedy was not found to be enforcable.
It’s possible NI can’t return to something approaching the status quo ante until the DUP are crushed.
One fig leaf for the UK government is that the UUP want the protocol “fixed”, too - so it’s true to say that as it stands it does not enjoy cross-community support.
(The UUP are pro-GFA, however, and have already indicated a willingness to serve under Michelle O’Neill if it comes to it).
A Tory MP claiming poor people cant budget or cook is total bollocks
In my experience the poorer you are the more price conscious you are and the more you know about food prices and buying the cheapest value items
If you claim £000's subsistence from the taxpayer not so much
Mansfield a Lab gain I think.
He's MP for Ashfield - popular
I cant see Labour regaining any Red Wall seats in East Midlands
No chance in Mansfield, NE Derbyshire and very little chance in Ashfield and Bolsover
I think there is more chance of a further Tory Gain if Boris is still in place in Chesterfield
Agree with you - if you saw Midlands Central News last Friday from Heanor/Ripley there was support for Boris from I assume former Labour voters
Tories easily took Chesterfield based on the tallies in last years Derbyshire CC ward by ward analysis, By about 4,000 votes. Lab slightly rebounded since then but Tory Gain still odds on IMO
A Tory MP claiming poor people cant budget or cook is total bollocks
In my experience the poorer you are the more price conscious you are and the more you know about food prices and buying the cheapest value items
If you claim £000's subsistence from the taxpayer not so much
I don't agree. You can buy healthy food at very low prices almost everywhere. The idea that fruit and vegetables are expensive in poor areas is nonsense.
I wish reporters would just ask the DUP what they thought would happen with Brexit ?
Wtf did they support that and even worse a hard Brexit?
The suspicion is they wanted a hard border between NI and Ireland .
They want a hard border, their GB allies want Brexit to still be a thing, each needs the other.
Do they want a hard border?
They want to cement a long-term separation which keeps NI in UK permanently. That includes rowing back to the greatest extent possible on Belfast Agreement institutions including strong support for direct rule. Note that the government's case is based on defending the Belfast Agreement yet the DUP (and other parties) have regularly boycotted GFA institutions, not only the Executive and the devolution of powers to NI but also the more obscure strands like cross-border ministerial cooperation. Much like shenanigans by their Tory pals across the water, the DUP's cross-border cooperation boycott was found to be a breach of their legal obligations but a remedy was not found to be enforcable.
A Tory MP claiming poor people cant budget or cook is total bollocks
In my experience the poorer you are the more price conscious you are and the more you know about food prices and buying the cheapest value items
If you claim £000's subsistence from the taxpayer not so much
I don't agree. You can buy healthy food at very low prices almost everywhere. The idea that fruit and vegetables are expensive in poor areas is nonsense.
Root vegetables are very expensive to cook apparently
I wish reporters would just ask the DUP what they thought would happen with Brexit ?
Wtf did they support that and even worse a hard Brexit?
The suspicion is they wanted a hard border between NI and Ireland .
They want a hard border, their GB allies want Brexit to still be a thing, each needs the other.
Do they want a hard border?
They want to cement a long-term separation which keeps NI in UK permanently. That includes rowing back to the greatest extent possible on Belfast Agreement institutions including strong support for direct rule. Note that the government's case is based on defending the Belfast Agreement yet the DUP (and other parties) have regularly boycotted GFA institutions, not only the Executive and the devolution of powers to NI but also the more obscure strands like cross-border ministerial cooperation. Much like shenanigans by their Tory pals across the water, the DUP's cross-border cooperation boycott was found to be a breach of their legal obligations but a remedy was not found to be enforcable.
The DUP campaigned AGAINST the GFA back in 1998!
Well, I don't hold that against them any more than I hold Sinn Féin's money-making ruses and antics. Democracy is democracy but if you're making the law, don't break the law, I say (I know I know, this is not popular view up in them SW1A London right now).
A Tory MP claiming poor people cant budget or cook is total bollocks
In my experience the poorer you are the more price conscious you are and the more you know about food prices and buying the cheapest value items
If you claim £000's subsistence from the taxpayer not so much
Mansfield a Lab gain I think.
He's MP for Ashfield - popular
I cant see Labour regaining any Red Wall seats in East Midlands
No chance in Mansfield, NE Derbyshire and very little chance in Ashfield and Bolsover
I think there is more chance of a further Tory Gain if Boris is still in place in Chesterfield
Agree with you - if you saw Midlands Central News last Friday from Heanor/Ripley there was support for Boris from I assume former Labour voters
Tories easily took Chesterfield based on the tallies in last years Derbyshire CC ward by ward analysis, By about 4,000 votes. Lab slightly rebounded since then but Tory Gain still odds on IMO
Should get the DUP back in the Tory tent if as polls predict there is a hung parliament at the next general election
Did I not warn the other day that we cannot assume the Tories are non-coalitionable?
Johnson will find a way to bring unionists on board post 2024 hung election if that happens.
It may involve the moon on a stick again of course...
The DUP are heading for 7 seats, maybe 5 or 6 if the UUP get their act together or if there are funny deals in other constituencies.
Could be enough if the Tories are just short of a majority
Isn't the logical politics here for the DUP to stage some joining-up of Unionist parties, and forcing a new Election where Inionists get the largest party?
Should get the DUP back in the Tory tent if as polls predict there is a hung parliament at the next general election
Did I not warn the other day that we cannot assume the Tories are non-coalitionable?
Johnson will find a way to bring unionists on board post 2024 hung election if that happens.
It may involve the moon on a stick again of course...
The DUP are heading for 7 seats, maybe 5 or 6 if the UUP get their act together or if there are funny deals in other constituencies.
Could be enough if the Tories are just short of a majority
Isn't the logical politics here for the DUP to stage some joining-up of Unionist parties, and forcing a new Election where Inionists get the largest party?
Yep, I know .... logic in NI.
Why would the UUP consent to being swallowed up by a bunch of religious extremists?
This is a multi-party Mexican stand-off. EU vs HMG vs DUP vs GFA parties.
You are right that another election may be the path of least resistance.
A Tory MP claiming poor people cant budget or cook is total bollocks
In my experience the poorer you are the more price conscious you are and the more you know about food prices and buying the cheapest value items
If you claim £000's subsistence from the taxpayer not so much
I don't agree. You can buy healthy food at very low prices almost everywhere. The idea that fruit and vegetables are expensive in poor areas is nonsense.
tisn't actually, fruit is always and everywhere expensive for what it is (basically sugary water with some poncy vitamins allegedly attached). Anyway if you are poor you need calories and protein more than anything else; given the choice of a diet of organic blueberries vs Ginsters pasties, you will die a damn sight sooner on the healthy option.
When at a poorer stage of life it was easy enough for me to eat cheaply. It wouldn't have been that hard to eat healthier whilst also being cheap, but it was still easier to live predominantly off giant bags of pasta and be cheap and expend minimal effort. I presumed those trying to feed a family cheaply, and working long hours, also needed more variety than I did, and so the simpler varietal options were even more enticing.
Should get the DUP back in the Tory tent if as polls predict there is a hung parliament at the next general election
Did I not warn the other day that we cannot assume the Tories are non-coalitionable?
Johnson will find a way to bring unionists on board post 2024 hung election if that happens.
It may involve the moon on a stick again of course...
The DUP are heading for 7 seats, maybe 5 or 6 if the UUP get their act together or if there are funny deals in other constituencies.
Could be enough if the Tories are just short of a majority
Isn't the logical politics here for the DUP to stage some joining-up of Unionist parties, and forcing a new Election where Inionists get the largest party?
Yep, I know .... logic in NI.
Why would the UUP consent to being swallowed up by a bunch of religious extremists?
This is a multi-party Mexican stand-off. EU vs HMG vs DUP vs GFA parties.
You are right that another election may be the path of least resistance.
The DUP are like children who throw screeching temper tantrums about how they are not treated like grown ups. Forever engaging in petty brinkmanship, which distracts from legitimate concerns, then moaning about not being treated seriously.
A Tory MP claiming poor people cant budget or cook is total bollocks
In my experience the poorer you are the more price conscious you are and the more you know about food prices and buying the cheapest value items
If you claim £000's subsistence from the taxpayer not so much
I don't agree. You can buy healthy food at very low prices almost everywhere. The idea that fruit and vegetables are expensive in poor areas is nonsense.
Root vegetables are very expensive to cook apparently
The only root vegetables I grew were onions,beetroot,garlic,radishes,fennel,carrots,parnip & potatoes - still eating last years crop of potatoes
Should get the DUP back in the Tory tent if as polls predict there is a hung parliament at the next general election
Did I not warn the other day that we cannot assume the Tories are non-coalitionable?
Johnson will find a way to bring unionists on board post 2024 hung election if that happens.
It may involve the moon on a stick again of course...
The DUP are heading for 7 seats, maybe 5 or 6 if the UUP get their act together or if there are funny deals in other constituencies.
Could be enough if the Tories are just short of a majority
Isn't the logical politics here for the DUP to stage some joining-up of Unionist parties, and forcing a new Election where Inionists get the largest party?
Yep, I know .... logic in NI.
Why would the UUP consent to being swallowed up by a bunch of religious extremists?
This is a multi-party Mexican stand-off. EU vs HMG vs DUP vs GFA parties.
You are right that another election may be the path of least resistance.
The DUP are like children who throw screeching temper tantrums about how they are not treated like grown ups. Forever engaging in petty brinkmanship, which distracts from legitimate concerns, then moaning about not being treated seriously.
The DUP will lose in the end.
I predict that eventually HMG will reach agreement with the EU, and then will “double-cross” the DUP to reinstate Stormont via some amendment to the St Andrew agreement, leaving them out in the cold.
A Tory MP claiming poor people cant budget or cook is total bollocks
In my experience the poorer you are the more price conscious you are and the more you know about food prices and buying the cheapest value items
If you claim £000's subsistence from the taxpayer not so much
Mansfield a Lab gain I think.
He's MP for Ashfield - popular
I cant see Labour regaining any Red Wall seats in East Midlands
No chance in Mansfield, NE Derbyshire and very little chance in Ashfield and Bolsover
I think there is more chance of a further Tory Gain if Boris is still in place in Chesterfield
Agree with you - if you saw Midlands Central News last Friday from Heanor/Ripley there was support for Boris from I assume former Labour voters
Tories easily took Chesterfield based on the tallies in last years Derbyshire CC ward by ward analysis, By about 4,000 votes. Lab slightly rebounded since then but Tory Gain still odds on IMO
Thanks - will bear that in mind
Just found out the Tory MP for Ashfield was a Labour Councillor up to 2018.
Lee Anderson MP, who today said poor people forced to use foodbanks 'cannot cook or budget properly' claimed £222,000 in expenses in 2020/21 - including £4,100 on travel and 'subsistence'
Daily MIrror trying a bit too hard there - they themselves publish articles whinging about a generation of 18-35 year olds who can't cook. I'm not sure that 'he's one of the 150 (?) most expensive MPs' is much of an attack.
Lee Anderson MP, who today said poor people forced to use foodbanks 'cannot cook or budget properly' claimed £222,000 in expenses in 2020/21 - including £4,100 on travel and 'subsistence'
Daily MIrror trying a bit too hard there - they themselves publish articles whinging about a generation of 18-35 year olds who can't cook. I'm not sure that 'he's one of the 150 (?) most expensive MPs' is much of an attack.
Also the small matter that 200k of it is staff or pffoce accomodation.
It's why nothing ever gets done about issues like these, because either side just makes it toxic. It's a valid point, there should be more emphasis on this in schools.
A Tory MP claiming poor people cant budget or cook is total bollocks
In my experience the poorer you are the more price conscious you are and the more you know about food prices and buying the cheapest value items
If you claim £000's subsistence from the taxpayer not so much
Mansfield a Lab gain I think.
He's MP for Ashfield - popular
I cant see Labour regaining any Red Wall seats in East Midlands
No chance in Mansfield, NE Derbyshire and very little chance in Ashfield and Bolsover
I think there is more chance of a further Tory Gain if Boris is still in place in Chesterfield
Agree with you - if you saw Midlands Central News last Friday from Heanor/Ripley there was support for Boris from I assume former Labour voters
Tories easily took Chesterfield based on the tallies in last years Derbyshire CC ward by ward analysis, By about 4,000 votes. Lab slightly rebounded since then but Tory Gain still odds on IMO
Thanks - will bear that in mind
Just found out the Tory MP for Ashfield was a Labour Councillor up to 2018.
Yes - thought it was a good pick by the Tories - he is in the Ben Bradley school of tory - I live in Ashfield
Should get the DUP back in the Tory tent if as polls predict there is a hung parliament at the next general election
Did I not warn the other day that we cannot assume the Tories are non-coalitionable?
Johnson will find a way to bring unionists on board post 2024 hung election if that happens.
It may involve the moon on a stick again of course...
The DUP are heading for 7 seats, maybe 5 or 6 if the UUP get their act together or if there are funny deals in other constituencies.
Could be enough if the Tories are just short of a majority
Isn't the logical politics here for the DUP to stage some joining-up of Unionist parties, and forcing a new Election where Inionists get the largest party?
Yep, I know .... logic in NI.
Why would the UUP consent to being swallowed up by a bunch of religious extremists?
This is a multi-party Mexican stand-off. EU vs HMG vs DUP vs GFA parties.
You are right that another election may be the path of least resistance.
The DUP are like children who throw screeching temper tantrums about how they are not treated like grown ups. Forever engaging in petty brinkmanship, which distracts from legitimate concerns, then moaning about not being treated seriously.
The DUP will lose in the end.
I predict that eventually HMG will reach agreement with the EU, and then will “double-cross” the DUP to reinstate Stormont via some amendment to the St Andrew agreement, leaving them out in the cold.
This could take years to play out, though.
My understanding the voting in NI last week was for assembly to get to work soon on sorting out cost of living, health etc - DUP support could fall if they hold up the assembly getting to work on what voters really care about.
A Tory MP claiming poor people cant budget or cook is total bollocks
In my experience the poorer you are the more price conscious you are and the more you know about food prices and buying the cheapest value items
If you claim £000's subsistence from the taxpayer not so much
I don't agree. You can buy healthy food at very low prices almost everywhere. The idea that fruit and vegetables are expensive in poor areas is nonsense.
Root vegetables are very expensive to cook apparently
Should get the DUP back in the Tory tent if as polls predict there is a hung parliament at the next general election
Did I not warn the other day that we cannot assume the Tories are non-coalitionable?
Johnson will find a way to bring unionists on board post 2024 hung election if that happens.
It may involve the moon on a stick again of course...
The DUP are heading for 7 seats, maybe 5 or 6 if the UUP get their act together or if there are funny deals in other constituencies.
Could be enough if the Tories are just short of a majority
Isn't the logical politics here for the DUP to stage some joining-up of Unionist parties, and forcing a new Election where Inionists get the largest party?
Yep, I know .... logic in NI.
Why would the UUP consent to being swallowed up by a bunch of religious extremists?
This is a multi-party Mexican stand-off. EU vs HMG vs DUP vs GFA parties.
You are right that another election may be the path of least resistance.
The DUP are like children who throw screeching temper tantrums about how they are not treated like grown ups. Forever engaging in petty brinkmanship, which distracts from legitimate concerns, then moaning about not being treated seriously.
The DUP will lose in the end.
I predict that eventually HMG will reach agreement with the EU, and then will “double-cross” the DUP to reinstate Stormont via some amendment to the St Andrew agreement, leaving them out in the cold.
This could take years to play out, though.
My understanding the voting in NI last week was for assembly to get to work soon on sorting out cost of living, health etc - DUP support could fall if they hold up the assembly getting to work on what voters really care about.
Certainly. But at present, the DUP’s abstentionism is helpful to HMG so that it has a fig leaf for its intention to disavow the Protocol.
If and when HMG no longer need that fig-leaf, the DUP will be dropped faster than a radioactive potato.
It can be hard for those of us out to the right of the intellectual bell curve, to appreciate how stupid stupid people actually are. So yay for Rebekah Vardy for giving us a steer.
Should get the DUP back in the Tory tent if as polls predict there is a hung parliament at the next general election
Did I not warn the other day that we cannot assume the Tories are non-coalitionable?
Johnson will find a way to bring unionists on board post 2024 hung election if that happens.
It may involve the moon on a stick again of course...
The DUP are heading for 7 seats, maybe 5 or 6 if the UUP get their act together or if there are funny deals in other constituencies.
Could be enough if the Tories are just short of a majority
Do you think EU will bottle it regarding threatened trade war, knowing the cards we hold?
A trade war would hurt UK government and cost them votes wouldn’t’ take it?
If HY is quite sensibly in bed now, would anyone else like to tackle how damaging for UK government electorally a trade war with EU would be, and the possibility of it going there from this impasse?
Should get the DUP back in the Tory tent if as polls predict there is a hung parliament at the next general election
Did I not warn the other day that we cannot assume the Tories are non-coalitionable?
Johnson will find a way to bring unionists on board post 2024 hung election if that happens.
It may involve the moon on a stick again of course...
The DUP are heading for 7 seats, maybe 5 or 6 if the UUP get their act together or if there are funny deals in other constituencies.
Could be enough if the Tories are just short of a majority
Isn't the logical politics here for the DUP to stage some joining-up of Unionist parties, and forcing a new Election where Inionists get the largest party?
Yep, I know .... logic in NI.
Why would the UUP consent to being swallowed up by a bunch of religious extremists?
This is a multi-party Mexican stand-off. EU vs HMG vs DUP vs GFA parties.
You are right that another election may be the path of least resistance.
The DUP are like children who throw screeching temper tantrums about how they are not treated like grown ups. Forever engaging in petty brinkmanship, which distracts from legitimate concerns, then moaning about not being treated seriously.
The DUP will lose in the end.
I predict that eventually HMG will reach agreement with the EU, and then will “double-cross” the DUP to reinstate Stormont via some amendment to the St Andrew agreement, leaving them out in the cold.
This could take years to play out, though.
My understanding the voting in NI last week was for assembly to get to work soon on sorting out cost of living, health etc - DUP support could fall if they hold up the assembly getting to work on what voters really care about.
Certainly. But at present, the DUP’s abstentionism is helpful to HMG so that it has a fig leaf for its intention to disavow the Protocol.
If and when HMG no longer need that fig-leaf, the DUP will be dropped faster than a radioactive potato.
Well that’s an obvious mistake, radioactive potatoes would be ideal for making fission chips. 😆
Should get the DUP back in the Tory tent if as polls predict there is a hung parliament at the next general election
Did I not warn the other day that we cannot assume the Tories are non-coalitionable?
Johnson will find a way to bring unionists on board post 2024 hung election if that happens.
It may involve the moon on a stick again of course...
The DUP are heading for 7 seats, maybe 5 or 6 if the UUP get their act together or if there are funny deals in other constituencies.
Could be enough if the Tories are just short of a majority
Isn't the logical politics here for the DUP to stage some joining-up of Unionist parties, and forcing a new Election where Inionists get the largest party?
Yep, I know .... logic in NI.
Why would the UUP consent to being swallowed up by a bunch of religious extremists?
This is a multi-party Mexican stand-off. EU vs HMG vs DUP vs GFA parties.
You are right that another election may be the path of least resistance.
The DUP are like children who throw screeching temper tantrums about how they are not treated like grown ups. Forever engaging in petty brinkmanship, which distracts from legitimate concerns, then moaning about not being treated seriously.
The DUP will lose in the end.
I predict that eventually HMG will reach agreement with the EU, and then will “double-cross” the DUP to reinstate Stormont via some amendment to the St Andrew agreement, leaving them out in the cold.
This could take years to play out, though.
Given current polls predict a hung parliament the government will have to keep the DUP on board to have any chance of staying in power if they lose their majority at the next general election
Should get the DUP back in the Tory tent if as polls predict there is a hung parliament at the next general election
Did I not warn the other day that we cannot assume the Tories are non-coalitionable?
Johnson will find a way to bring unionists on board post 2024 hung election if that happens.
It may involve the moon on a stick again of course...
The DUP are heading for 7 seats, maybe 5 or 6 if the UUP get their act together or if there are funny deals in other constituencies.
Could be enough if the Tories are just short of a majority
Do you think EU will bottle it regarding threatened trade war, knowing the cards we hold?
A trade war would hurt UK government and cost them votes wouldn’t’ take it?
If HY is quite sensibly in bed now, would anyone else like to tackle how damaging for UK government electorally a trade war with EU would be, and the possibility of it going there from this impasse?
I think there’s a decent chance of a trade war, but I don’t see a downside for the Tories.
Keir can’t afford to “take the EU’s side”.
Negative economic effects can be blamed on Ukraine, or Covid, or Gordon Brown.
Should get the DUP back in the Tory tent if as polls predict there is a hung parliament at the next general election
Did I not warn the other day that we cannot assume the Tories are non-coalitionable?
Johnson will find a way to bring unionists on board post 2024 hung election if that happens.
It may involve the moon on a stick again of course...
The DUP are heading for 7 seats, maybe 5 or 6 if the UUP get their act together or if there are funny deals in other constituencies.
Could be enough if the Tories are just short of a majority
Isn't the logical politics here for the DUP to stage some joining-up of Unionist parties, and forcing a new Election where Inionists get the largest party?
Yep, I know .... logic in NI.
Why would the UUP consent to being swallowed up by a bunch of religious extremists?
This is a multi-party Mexican stand-off. EU vs HMG vs DUP vs GFA parties.
You are right that another election may be the path of least resistance.
The DUP are like children who throw screeching temper tantrums about how they are not treated like grown ups. Forever engaging in petty brinkmanship, which distracts from legitimate concerns, then moaning about not being treated seriously.
The DUP will lose in the end.
I predict that eventually HMG will reach agreement with the EU, and then will “double-cross” the DUP to reinstate Stormont via some amendment to the St Andrew agreement, leaving them out in the cold.
This could take years to play out, though.
Given current polls predict a hung parliament the government will have to keep the DUP on board to have any chance of staying in power if they lose their majority at the next general election
That’s a tomorrow problem. This government don’t do tomorrows.
Should get the DUP back in the Tory tent if as polls predict there is a hung parliament at the next general election
Did I not warn the other day that we cannot assume the Tories are non-coalitionable?
Johnson will find a way to bring unionists on board post 2024 hung election if that happens.
It may involve the moon on a stick again of course...
The DUP are heading for 7 seats, maybe 5 or 6 if the UUP get their act together or if there are funny deals in other constituencies.
Could be enough if the Tories are just short of a majority
Do you think EU will bottle it regarding threatened trade war, knowing the cards we hold?
A trade war would hurt UK government and cost them votes wouldn’t’ take it?
If HY is quite sensibly in bed now, would anyone else like to tackle how damaging for UK government electorally a trade war with EU would be, and the possibility of it going there from this impasse?
It will tempt some of the RefUK vote back to the tories, and the moaning minnies who would be driven out by it have prolly already been driven out by Pig Dog's antics already and were never real tories in the first place because they thought about voting for Blair in 97, so all good.
Should get the DUP back in the Tory tent if as polls predict there is a hung parliament at the next general election
Did I not warn the other day that we cannot assume the Tories are non-coalitionable?
Johnson will find a way to bring unionists on board post 2024 hung election if that happens.
It may involve the moon on a stick again of course...
The DUP are heading for 7 seats, maybe 5 or 6 if the UUP get their act together or if there are funny deals in other constituencies.
Could be enough if the Tories are just short of a majority
Isn't the logical politics here for the DUP to stage some joining-up of Unionist parties, and forcing a new Election where Inionists get the largest party?
Yep, I know .... logic in NI.
Why would the UUP consent to being swallowed up by a bunch of religious extremists?
This is a multi-party Mexican stand-off. EU vs HMG vs DUP vs GFA parties.
You are right that another election may be the path of least resistance.
The DUP are like children who throw screeching temper tantrums about how they are not treated like grown ups. Forever engaging in petty brinkmanship, which distracts from legitimate concerns, then moaning about not being treated seriously.
The DUP will lose in the end.
I predict that eventually HMG will reach agreement with the EU, and then will “double-cross” the DUP to reinstate Stormont via some amendment to the St Andrew agreement, leaving them out in the cold.
This could take years to play out, though.
My understanding the voting in NI last week was for assembly to get to work soon on sorting out cost of living, health etc - DUP support could fall if they hold up the assembly getting to work on what voters really care about.
Certainly. But at present, the DUP’s abstentionism is helpful to HMG so that it has a fig leaf for its intention to disavow the Protocol.
If and when HMG no longer need that fig-leaf, the DUP will be dropped faster than a radioactive potato.
Well that’s an obvious mistake, radioactive potatoes would be ideal for making fission chips. 😆
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I had four poached eggs (66p) on two slices of toast (10p). Keep the yolks soft to avoid the need for butter. Salt generously. 360 cals.
A trade war would hurt UK government and cost them votes wouldn’t’ take it?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Hamilton_South_by-election
Even previous Tory Chancellors have recognised windfall taxes have a part to play
If I was Truss or Hunt I would be checking underneath the car every time I headed out.
And there is a zero chance of the cabinet supporting a windfall tax, firstly after the last couple of months explaining the damage it would do to vital investment, it would be too much a drop of credibility. But more importantly it makes Starmer the winner, will instantly make Starmer and Labour appear leading on ideas and innovation and the Tories bereft of ideas having to follow.
In the same link above it has Wikipedia rejecting Daily Mail as editors becuase they make too much up. 😃 So can we even believe this front page story? More likely it’s a standard request from chancellor to cost all the options for an options paper being spun ridiculously by a newspapers editor team that’s slipping into some form of crisis. Not least because they have made Amanda Plattel look very much like my mother and splayed that on the front page so I had to make a double take. 🫣
I recommend half a pack of ALDI midget Gems (14.5p)
Can last several hours if you just suck
Which will probably have the same effect on her prospects of promotion.
So yes, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him kneecapped.
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Interesting from Vladimir Solovyov tonight:
He says the huge Victory Day turnout was "such a mandate" for Putin that he can count on Russians' full support if he shifts the "special military operation" up to a "turbo military operation"
"The people are ready!"
https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1524493229697245185
Bugger
Sir John Curtice pilloried Lab attempt to compare 2022 with 2019 rather than the natural cycle of 2018
Not really going to work mate.
At some point, smarter Conservatives will realise that BoJo is happy for them all to burn, as long as it buys him another hour as top bananna. But that realisation is already too late for a load of ex-councillors.
After six months on PB I have never seen this before.
No wonder he is skulking around in bunkers and submarines.....
Remember, I'm no SKS pompom waver, I voted for Nandy. But I want us to succeed, and kick Bozo and his mates out at the next GE.
In my experience the poorer you are the more price conscious you are and the more you know about food prices and buying the cheapest value items
If you claim £000's subsistence from the taxpayer not so much
For fans of particularly bitter coffee, go to an middle-eastern store and buy Iranian coffee with green cardamom pods mixed it. Serious (but good) stuff.
Plus the fact they realised she is spitting image of Marie Antoinette.
Well below the minimum wage actress must be a complete sucker
Unless you are talking to Shell in which case you say, you are still here too with an extra $64bn which you didn't pay out.
And as for the widows and orphans who rely on FTSE100 divvies to keep the wolf from the door, those are rich widows and orphans, there's plenty of people with no exposure to BP divvies either directly or via non-state pensions, so you are just redistributing from the rich to the poor.
How does it compare with the average claim?
And you know what? It was shit.
Goodnight all.
Totally reasonable in entitled MPs minds
Hope Vlad doesn’t do something (more) stupid.
Worse than Brexiters.
Oh wait...
They are all bogged down in Ukraine or indeed dead.
A lot of those expenses probably end up on staff.
No chance in Mansfield, NE Derbyshire and very little chance in Ashfield and Bolsover
I think there is more chance of a further Tory Gain if Boris is still in place in Chesterfield
Jokes move on by 2 days in a month!!
One fig leaf for the UK government is that the UUP want the protocol “fixed”, too - so it’s true to say that as it stands it does not enjoy cross-community support.
(The UUP are pro-GFA, however, and have already indicated a willingness to serve under Michelle O’Neill if it comes to it).
Lab slightly rebounded since then but Tory Gain still odds on IMO
Yep, I know .... logic in NI.
This is a multi-party Mexican stand-off.
EU vs HMG vs DUP vs GFA parties.
You are right that another election may be the path of least resistance.
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1524360854514319361?t=4bPepEYkrf-9_MDI3WTv3w&s=19
I predict that eventually HMG will reach agreement with the EU, and then will “double-cross” the DUP to reinstate Stormont via some amendment to the St Andrew agreement, leaving them out in the cold.
This could take years to play out, though.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/britain-raising-generation-young-adults-9700304
Also the small matter that 200k of it is staff or office accomodation.
Budgeting and cooking courses are a great idea. I don't believe that it can be made a condition though - strongly encouraged, yes.
But at present, the DUP’s abstentionism is helpful to HMG so that it has a fig leaf for its intention to disavow the Protocol.
If and when HMG no longer need that fig-leaf, the DUP will be dropped faster than a radioactive potato.
Keir can’t afford to “take the EU’s side”.
Negative economic effects can be blamed on Ukraine, or Covid, or Gordon Brown.
This government don’t do tomorrows.
That sound about right?