Ohio 2022 Primary Results NOT previously reported on PB
MEIGS COUNTY - Unincorp. Salisbury Twp Additional Cemeteries Levy – .5 mills/5 years — For the tax levy: 118; Against the tax levy: 141
Is it like the times claim, the Ohio candidate only surged to victory with Trumps endorsement?
True.
Vance was back of the pack before the endoresment; likely that Mandel, who got support from many 45 fans, would have gotten even more, had the Sage of Mar-a-Lardo not anointed the V-man.
Hope Tim Ryan tears him a new one.
Thanks for the answer.
Is hope all you got left. It’s just a economic downturn away from all the Trump loonies winning?
Moon, you may have noticed that something even bigger than the Ohio Primary happened in America this week?
News of impending overturning of Roe v Wade by US Supreme Court has tossed a MAJOR wild card into the deck for the 2022 midterms. May help Democrats to redress the enthusiasm gap, is certainly galvanizing plenty right now.
I'm trying to work out what a very good result looks like for Labour & Starmer (and is it likely)... as opposed to just Tories losing loads of seats to a mixture of opponents. If Labour cant make a decent go of it now what sort of govt in a mess do they need?
Ohio 2022 Primary Results NOT previously reported on PB
MEIGS COUNTY - Unincorp. Salisbury Twp Additional Cemeteries Levy – .5 mills/5 years — For the tax levy: 118; Against the tax levy: 141
Is it like the times claim, the Ohio candidate only surged to victory with Trumps endorsement?
True.
Vance was back of the pack before the endoresment; likely that Mandel, who got support from many 45 fans, would have gotten even more, had the Sage of Mar-a-Lardo not anointed the V-man.
Hope Tim Ryan tears him a new one.
Thanks for the answer.
Is hope all you got left. It’s just a economic downturn away from all the Trump loonies winning?
Moon, you may have noticed that something even bigger than the Ohio Primary happened in America this week?
News of impending overturning of Roe v Wade by US Supreme Court has tossed a MAJOR wild card into the deck for the 2022 midterms. May help Democrats to redress the enthusiasm gap, is certainly galvanizing plenty right now.
There’s no reason to assume that would outweigh a bad economy in November, though.
SOME may be sick of hearing about No10 parties and Labour’s lockdown-breaking curry. But they matter because Keir Starmer himself made them matter.
It is laughable for him now to moan that the cost of living is being sidelined by a media obsessed with “Tory mud-slinging” over his beery Durham jolly.
For months Labour’s leader bombarded Boris Johnson with a non-stop onslaught of pious rage over lockdown breaches he treated as the gravest crime imaginable. He cannot hope to hide now that the tables are turned.
What’s more, his own offence goes far beyond the illicit £200 takeaway or even the lies his party continues to tell….
They tried to convince voters of Labour’s moral superiority, constructing a witch-hunt and pressurising police to wade in, while knowing they were guilty of the same rule-breaking.
The Sun really needs to STFU given it ignored partygate to protect Johnson and has the gall to call something monstrous and deceitful . Given some of its past behaviour and headlines it’s laughable that it’s now moralizing .
It has been very clever how Team Johnson have neutralised Partygate during the Met's purdah. Starmer appears guiltier than Johnson, Johnson was simply ambushed by cake, and the Gray Report cannot be trusted because it is a partisan hatchet job.
LOL
I don’t think Pete or IshmaelZ are saying Starmer actually is guilty, only that you could catch Boris [deleted] and he wouldn’t look as guilty or bothered as this labour front bench do when under fire.
[Deleted]
That was exactly my point. Team Johnson have been busy tarring Starmer with their own brush in a moment in time where for some utterly inexplicable reason the Met have decided not to mention Partygate or issue any penalties in case it offends the guilty party Boris Johnson. And they have done this under rules of political purdah which don't apply to them.
"Please ex- Commissioner Dick can you hold off the multiple speeding tickets for a while because without a driving licence I will lose my job".
And mine. I have said till I am blue in the face that Starmer is probably innocent and that is not the point. He is incompetent.
The man who wants to one day be Prime Minister cannot behave like this. He has a responsibility to be open, honest and transparent with the public. #Beergate
I'm trying to work out what a very good result looks like for Labour & Starmer (and is it likely)... as opposed to just Tories losing loads of seats to a mixture of opponents. If Labour cant make a decent go of it now what sort of govt in a mess do they need?
Well, it's a bit more complicated than that, surely.
For a start, these elections are mostly in Labour heartlands. In 2018, they got twice as many councillors elected as the Conservatives.
Ohio 2022 Primary Results NOT previously reported on PB
MEIGS COUNTY - Unincorp. Salisbury Twp Additional Cemeteries Levy – .5 mills/5 years — For the tax levy: 118; Against the tax levy: 141
Is it like the times claim, the Ohio candidate only surged to victory with Trumps endorsement?
True.
Vance was back of the pack before the endoresment; likely that Mandel, who got support from many 45 fans, would have gotten even more, had the Sage of Mar-a-Lardo not anointed the V-man.
Hope Tim Ryan tears him a new one.
Thanks for the answer.
Is hope all you got left. It’s just a economic downturn away from all the Trump loonies winning?
Moon, you may have noticed that something even bigger than the Ohio Primary happened in America this week?
News of impending overturning of Roe v Wade by US Supreme Court has tossed a MAJOR wild card into the deck for the 2022 midterms. May help Democrats to redress the enthusiasm gap, is certainly galvanizing plenty right now.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
According to the Telegraph report referenced, police have seen the video but possibly not the full version. The original lasted 44 seconds; the version posted online was 34 seconds. There is nothing in the Telegraph report that suggests a smoking gun in the extra ten seconds.
It is absurd beyond belief the amount of attention given to this story, given what is happening in Ukraine. What is it with these stupid stories? The Rayner thing was stupid and trivial, as was the porngate thing. Perhaps it is complacency that the conflict in Ukraine is working out our way. But that is not true. The chances of a good scenario, IE Putin being deposed by sympathetic forces, is close to zero. The risks are extreme. Perhaps even greater than the 1930s given WMD's. Perhaps not surprising that people like these crappy distractions.
Edit... and similarly with the interest and extensive discussion regarding abortion and states rights in the US.
Ohio 2022 Primary Results NOT previously reported on PB
MEIGS COUNTY - Unincorp. Salisbury Twp Additional Cemeteries Levy – .5 mills/5 years — For the tax levy: 118; Against the tax levy: 141
Is it like the times claim, the Ohio candidate only surged to victory with Trumps endorsement?
True.
Vance was back of the pack before the endoresment; likely that Mandel, who got support from many 45 fans, would have gotten even more, had the Sage of Mar-a-Lardo not anointed the V-man.
Hope Tim Ryan tears him a new one.
Thanks for the answer.
Is hope all you got left. It’s just a economic downturn away from all the Trump loonies winning?
Moon, you may have noticed that something even bigger than the Ohio Primary happened in America this week?
News of impending overturning of Roe v Wade by US Supreme Court has tossed a MAJOR wild card into the deck for the 2022 midterms. May help Democrats to redress the enthusiasm gap, is certainly galvanizing plenty right now.
When abortion is broadly legal, you don't have harrowing stories about rape victims committing suicide rather than carry their baby to term. You don't have scandals about people prevented from crossing state lines by restrictive laws. You don't have stories about the deaths of people carrying out home abortions based on YouTube videos.
Legal abortion - at least up until about 18 weeks or so - is supported by the vast majority of Americans.
Now, do anti-abortionists (by and large) care about it more?
Probably.
But that's because most Americans haven't had to deal with abortion being illegal. Like with Brexit, it is those who wish to change the status quo who are the most motivated.
I think this is a Pyrrhic victory for the anti-abortion lobby, that will end in abortion being legally endorsed at the ballot box in more than 40 states in the next decade.
Damn, I love an all English final. But hopefully that will break their will elsewhere.
I hate an all English final. We watch that every season.CL is better when international.
It is international. If English teams prove to be the two best teams it is no less international.
It is boring. We see that match a few times each season.
Yes, for a time it was looking like every major trophy available to English clubs might as well be decided in a miniseries of City/Liverpool games. Dull. Chelsea only have a chance in the FA Cup because of the draw.
Man United will be back. And Newcastle are in the distance, with all that money
Thank God we have such a lively league. Bayern have just won their ninth title in a row; the Bundesliga is worse than the Scottish Premiership
There are only 4 teams had in EPL if i am being generous and they are not English clubs any more
Interesting dose of realism from Kieran Pedley, Ben Walker and Co. over at Britain Elects / New Statesman. Basically suggesting 100-200 council seats changing hands. Which would be very very 'meh' and definitely not worth staying up for in my opinion.
Now that the tories lanced the boil by a) exaggerated expectation management '800' loss nonsense and b) nonsense about Keir Starmer Boris Johnson will be safe and he will go on to fight the 2024 General Election, which he will lose.
It’s a sunny morning in Treviso but it’s fair to say that the local elections aren’t featuring highly in the Italian news. Hopefully your weather will be as good and I trust the clown won’t be laughing this time tomorrow…
Leon: 'and United will be back. And Newcastle are in the distance, with all that money
Thank God we have such a lively league.'
Thank God?
The top of the Premier League is funded by dirty money. The fans mostly don't mind as long as their teams win but the fact is that football in England stinks. It's awash with the filthy money of Russia and the Middle East.
The lack of ethics and morality over this is appalling.
The man who wants to one day be Prime Minister cannot behave like this. He has a responsibility to be open, honest and transparent with the public. #Beergate
Unbelievable
Did she really just tweet that?
I honestly thought she couldn’t be as stupid as she came across. Clearly I was right and she’s much stupider.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
According to the Telegraph report referenced, police have seen the video but possibly not the full version. The original lasted 44 seconds; the version posted online was 34 seconds. There is nothing in the Telegraph report that suggests a smoking gun in the extra ten seconds.
It is absurd beyond belief the amount of attention given to this story, given what is happening in Ukraine.
I know loads of people who don't want to hear or read about anything more in Ukraine now. It's a war 1000 miles away. It's awful. So are lots of conflicts.
I'm not justifying this, I'm just saying that it doesn't interest a lot of people that much anymore. They're more consumed by the cost of living crisis as well as the kind of tittle tattle you deplore.
Good Morning. Light cloud here, with some sun. Not a good day chez Cole as we have the funeral of an old friend later today, and OKC himself has been told he's got a problem with the nerve supply to his right hand.
Good Morning. Light cloud here, with some sun. Not a good day chez Cole as we have the funeral of an old friend later today, and OKC himself has been told he's got a problem with the nerve supply to his right hand.
Which could mean problems with typing.
So sorry to hear that OKC. And I hope the funeral is as tolerable as possible under the circumstances.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
According to the Telegraph report referenced, police have seen the video but possibly not the full version. The original lasted 44 seconds; the version posted online was 34 seconds. There is nothing in the Telegraph report that suggests a smoking gun in the extra ten seconds.
It is absurd beyond belief the amount of attention given to this story, given what is happening in Ukraine.
I know loads of people who don't want to hear or read about anything more in Ukraine now. It's a war 1000 miles away. It's awful. So are lots of conflicts.
I'm not justifying this, I'm just saying that it doesn't interest a lot of people that much anymore. They're more consumed by the cost of living crisis as well as the kind of tittle tattle you deplore.
Perhaps they tell you they don't want to read or hear anything about Ukraine, as they're concerned you'll just call them 'armchair generals' and other things if they admit to it?
Good Morning. Light cloud here, with some sun. Not a good day chez Cole as we have the funeral of an old friend later today, and OKC himself has been told he's got a problem with the nerve supply to his right hand.
Which could mean problems with typing.
Sorry to hear that your venerable (understandably not very) cheerful majesty.
Serious question - have you tried using dictation if you have an IPad or iPhone?
Good Morning. Light cloud here, with some sun. Not a good day chez Cole as we have the funeral of an old friend later today, and OKC himself has been told he's got a problem with the nerve supply to his right hand.
Which could mean problems with typing.
Sorry to hear that your venerable (understandably not very) cheerful majesty.
Serious question - have you tried using dictation if you have an IPad or iPhone?
Good Morning. Light cloud here, with some sun. Not a good day chez Cole as we have the funeral of an old friend later today, and OKC himself has been told he's got a problem with the nerve supply to his right hand.
Which could mean problems with typing.
Sorry to hear that your venerable (understandably not very) cheerful majesty.
Serious question - have you tried using dictation if you have an IPad or iPhone?
Thanks for the thought; the answer is not yet. Experiments later/tomorrow!
Good Morning. Light cloud here, with some sun. Not a good day chez Cole as we have the funeral of an old friend later today, and OKC himself has been told he's got a problem with the nerve supply to his right hand.
Which could mean problems with typing.
So sorry to hear that OKC. And I hope the funeral is as tolerable as possible under the circumstances.
Ohio 2022 Primary Results NOT previously reported on PB
MEIGS COUNTY - Unincorp. Salisbury Twp Additional Cemeteries Levy – .5 mills/5 years — For the tax levy: 118; Against the tax levy: 141
Is it like the times claim, the Ohio candidate only surged to victory with Trumps endorsement?
True.
Vance was back of the pack before the endoresment; likely that Mandel, who got support from many 45 fans, would have gotten even more, had the Sage of Mar-a-Lardo not anointed the V-man.
Hope Tim Ryan tears him a new one.
Thanks for the answer.
Is hope all you got left. It’s just a economic downturn away from all the Trump loonies winning?
Moon, you may have noticed that something even bigger than the Ohio Primary happened in America this week?
News of impending overturning of Roe v Wade by US Supreme Court has tossed a MAJOR wild card into the deck for the 2022 midterms. May help Democrats to redress the enthusiasm gap, is certainly galvanizing plenty right now.
When abortion is broadly legal, you don't have harrowing stories about rape victims committing suicide rather than carry their baby to term. You don't have scandals about people prevented from crossing state lines by restrictive laws. You don't have stories about the deaths of people carrying out home abortions based on YouTube videos.
Legal abortion - at least up until about 18 weeks or so - is supported by the vast majority of Americans.
Now, do anti-abortionists (by and large) care about it more?
Probably.
But that's because most Americans haven't had to deal with abortion being illegal. Like with Brexit, it is those who wish to change the status quo who are the most motivated.
I think this is a Pyrrhic victory for the anti-abortion lobby, that will end in abortion being legally endorsed at the ballot box in more than 40 states in the next decade.
I agree with most of that - but none of it is inconsistent with the possible scenario that the Politico article depicts. Reread the article and point out which bits are as impossible as you claim.
It too would be a Pyrric victory, but the political disruption would be immense.
Good Morning. Light cloud here, with some sun. Not a good day chez Cole as we have the funeral of an old friend later today, and OKC himself has been told he's got a problem with the nerve supply to his right hand.
Which could mean problems with typing.
My condolences, and good luck with the hand problem.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
According to the Telegraph report referenced, police have seen the video but possibly not the full version. The original lasted 44 seconds; the version posted online was 34 seconds. There is nothing in the Telegraph report that suggests a smoking gun in the extra ten seconds.
It is absurd beyond belief the amount of attention given to this story, given what is happening in Ukraine.
I know loads of people who don't want to hear or read about anything more in Ukraine now. It's a war 1000 miles away. It's awful. So are lots of conflicts.
I'm not justifying this, I'm just saying that it doesn't interest a lot of people that much anymore. They're more consumed by the cost of living crisis as well as the kind of tittle tattle you deplore.
Sort of. Lots of Ukraine flags still everywhere. The point here is that this conflict directly affects us; because we are supplying Ukraine with arms and Putin is of the view that he is at war with us. What if his mobilisation fails and it is the endgame for his regime (a likely scenario) - he has nukes pointed at us. I think we are doing the right thing but have concern that it will not be sustained due to wavering public opinion because the tories aren't doing enough regarding the cost of living problems. This is far more dangerous on an existential level than the terrorist threat from 2001 onwards. It is perhaps inevitable that people will try and wish the problem away by being distracted by porngate and partygate, etc.
When I was a child that was how laundry was done. My mother would ring up, they would come round and collect all my father's shirts, sheets etc then return with them all cleaned, pressed and neatly folded.
No apps of course. But otherwise we are just rediscovering services we used to have before.
And as for @rcs1000's waste Uber, I was doing this for my street years ago. When I went to the Regis Road recycling centre I would ask neighbours if they had stuff to go there and would take it along, especially garden waste, rather than pay for Camden to collect it. In return other favours would be done for me.
If I am elected tomorrow, which seems unlikely, I will fight to remove the booking system introduced for Regis Road recycling centre during the pandemic and return it to just a walk-in service.
If I am elected tomorrow - which is unlikely - I will make it illegal for people to have ground level letter boxes
Also would get my vote. And add in not having the brushes behind the letter box too.
Dogs that concuss themselves on the front door.
Silent dogs.
Hidden letter boxes in hedges so that you walk up a long drive, search for a letter box, give up and leave under the mat, see box after you have closed the gate, open the gate and go up the drive, retrieve the leaflet and put in box in the hedge on your return.
There are a couple of houses I tried to leaflet where I couldn't even find the door, never mind the letter box!
My village is a classic. A lot of houses were split in two a century or two back. So a lot of the 1795 stock has the main number then A on the side. Then we have the new builds where someone has built a house in their mahoosive back garden which is A or B. Then we have the streets where there is a single main row between the streets and some built in the back ones which can be associated with either street. Then we have the ones with no number and just a name...
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
According to the Telegraph report referenced, police have seen the video but possibly not the full version. The original lasted 44 seconds; the version posted online was 34 seconds. There is nothing in the Telegraph report that suggests a smoking gun in the extra ten seconds.
It is absurd beyond belief the amount of attention given to this story, given what is happening in Ukraine. What is it with these stupid stories? The Rayner thing was stupid and trivial, as was the porngate thing. Perhaps it is complacency that the conflict in Ukraine is working out our way. But that is not true. The chances of a good scenario, IE Putin being deposed by sympathetic forces, is close to zero. The risks are extreme. Perhaps even greater than the 1930s given WMD's. Perhaps not surprising that people like these crappy distractions.
Edit... and similarly with the interest and extensive discussion regarding abortion and states rights in the US.
In our media, or on here ? In the latter case, like it or not, US politics constitutes the most liquid and arguably most interesting betting market.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
According to the Telegraph report referenced, police have seen the video but possibly not the full version. The original lasted 44 seconds; the version posted online was 34 seconds. There is nothing in the Telegraph report that suggests a smoking gun in the extra ten seconds.
It is absurd beyond belief the amount of attention given to this story, given what is happening in Ukraine.
I know loads of people who don't want to hear or read about anything more in Ukraine now. It's a war 1000 miles away. It's awful. So are lots of conflicts.
I'm not justifying this, I'm just saying that it doesn't interest a lot of people that much anymore. They're more consumed by the cost of living crisis as well as the kind of tittle tattle you deplore.
The cost of living crisis is largely down to the Russian invasion Ukraine. The resolution of the conflict is the best hope for resolving it, too.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
According to the Telegraph report referenced, police have seen the video but possibly not the full version. The original lasted 44 seconds; the version posted online was 34 seconds. There is nothing in the Telegraph report that suggests a smoking gun in the extra ten seconds.
It is absurd beyond belief the amount of attention given to this story, given what is happening in Ukraine.
I know loads of people who don't want to hear or read about anything more in Ukraine now. It's a war 1000 miles away. It's awful. So are lots of conflicts.
I'm not justifying this, I'm just saying that it doesn't interest a lot of people that much anymore. They're more consumed by the cost of living crisis as well as the kind of tittle tattle you deplore.
The cost of living crisis is largely down to the Russian invasion Ukraine. The resolution of the conflict is the best hope for resolving it, too.
Not really, as sanctions will continue even after a Ukranian victory. They will persist after a coup does in Putin.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Interesting dose of realism from Kieran Pedley, Ben Walker and Co. over at Britain Elects / New Statesman. Basically suggesting 100-200 council seats changing hands. Which would be very very 'meh' and definitely not worth staying up for in my opinion.
Now that the tories lanced the boil by a) exaggerated expectation management '800' loss nonsense and b) nonsense about Keir Starmer Boris Johnson will be safe and he will go on to fight the 2024 General Election, which he will lose.
As most counts are Friday I’d suggest getting your kip in!
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
According to the Telegraph report referenced, police have seen the video but possibly not the full version. The original lasted 44 seconds; the version posted online was 34 seconds. There is nothing in the Telegraph report that suggests a smoking gun in the extra ten seconds.
It is absurd beyond belief the amount of attention given to this story, given what is happening in Ukraine.
I know loads of people who don't want to hear or read about anything more in Ukraine now. It's a war 1000 miles away. It's awful. So are lots of conflicts.
I'm not justifying this, I'm just saying that it doesn't interest a lot of people that much anymore. They're more consumed by the cost of living crisis as well as the kind of tittle tattle you deplore.
Sort of. Lots of Ukraine flags still everywhere. The point here is that this conflict directly affects us; because we are supplying Ukraine with arms and Putin is of the view that he is at war with us. What if his mobilisation fails and it is the endgame for his regime (a likely scenario) - he has nukes pointed at us. I think we are doing the right thing but have concern that it will not be sustained due to wavering public opinion because the tories aren't doing enough regarding the cost of living problems. This is far more dangerous on an existential level than the terrorist threat from 2001 onwards. It is perhaps inevitable that people will try and wish the problem away by being distracted by porngate and partygate, etc.
When we drove the country route to Southwold on Sunday, we were surprised to see three churches in consecutive villages having Ukrainian flags flying from the towers or prominently in their grounds. I also saw two Ukrainian flags during yesterday's run.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
According to the Telegraph report referenced, police have seen the video but possibly not the full version. The original lasted 44 seconds; the version posted online was 34 seconds. There is nothing in the Telegraph report that suggests a smoking gun in the extra ten seconds.
It is absurd beyond belief the amount of attention given to this story, given what is happening in Ukraine.
I know loads of people who don't want to hear or read about anything more in Ukraine now. It's a war 1000 miles away. It's awful. So are lots of conflicts.
I'm not justifying this, I'm just saying that it doesn't interest a lot of people that much anymore. They're more consumed by the cost of living crisis as well as the kind of tittle tattle you deplore.
The cost of living crisis is largely down to the Russian invasion Ukraine. The resolution of the conflict is the best hope for resolving it, too.
Indeed - and here in Spain petrol prices are surging again - even with the 20 cent discount which ends on 30 June. Everything so far seems more expensive here except clothing where they're having to discount heavily to get buyers, and tourism where people seem ready to splurge despite the higher costs.
Interesting dose of realism from Kieran Pedley, Ben Walker and Co. over at Britain Elects / New Statesman. Basically suggesting 100-200 council seats changing hands. Which would be very very 'meh' and definitely not worth staying up for in my opinion.
Now that the tories lanced the boil by a) exaggerated expectation management '800' loss nonsense and b) nonsense about Keir Starmer Boris Johnson will be safe and he will go on to fight the 2024 General Election, which he will lose.
Even Major's Tories only lost 516 seats in the equivalent local elections in 1994, despite being over 20% behind in the polls.
So over 800 losses is certainly expectations management from CCHQ
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
Come on, even you must blush at your own hypocrisy.
You were banging on for months about a can of Estrella (which wasn't even present at the event the FPN went out for), but a bottle of beer in Keir's hand - nothing to see here?
So food in the Cabinet Office is an outrageous scandal, but Keir having beers and curry isn't? Give me a break.
There is no difference between this and what happened in the Cabinet Office.
Personally I don't think Keir drinking beer proves anything, but the hypocrisy with your cant and self-righteousness over the Estrella to make this "nothing to see here" whereas that is earth shattering is ridiculous.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
According to the Telegraph report referenced, police have seen the video but possibly not the full version. The original lasted 44 seconds; the version posted online was 34 seconds. There is nothing in the Telegraph report that suggests a smoking gun in the extra ten seconds.
It is absurd beyond belief the amount of attention given to this story, given what is happening in Ukraine.
I know loads of people who don't want to hear or read about anything more in Ukraine now. It's a war 1000 miles away. It's awful. So are lots of conflicts.
I'm not justifying this, I'm just saying that it doesn't interest a lot of people that much anymore. They're more consumed by the cost of living crisis as well as the kind of tittle tattle you deplore.
The cost of living crisis is largely down to the Russian invasion Ukraine. The resolution of the conflict is the best hope for resolving it, too.
Not really, although the war has made it worse. The run of inflation was predictable (and predicted) during the pandemic.
Have just watched the highlights of last night's match. How on earth did Citeh throw that away? On 86' Grealish nearly scores twice. Should have been dead and buried. Then Madrid wake up, score 2 on the bounce and its almost 3.
Bravo Citeh. You'll be as good* as United if you keep screwing up like that.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
The same media outlets and PB posters demanding Starmer's head should be outraged that Boris Johnson has not been sent a questionnaire by the Met over the Lee Cain "work event" that he attended, yet others present have. I don't believe Johnson will receive any more FPNs.
I recall that when Peter Hain was caught up in financial irregularities over his Deputy Leadership bid the media rehashed the same story over and over again for around ten days until he was forced out. We must nearly be at that point with Starmer.To quote David Davis "for the love of God man, go!"
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Really? You've never done campaigning then. The Tories were bussing people up to Teesside from Guildford a few years ago.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
Come on, even you must blush at your own hypocrisy.
You were banging on for months about a can of Estrella (which wasn't even present at the event the FPN went out for), but a bottle of beer in Keir's hand - nothing to see here?
So food in the Cabinet Office is an outrageous scandal, but Keir having beers and curry isn't? Give me a break.
There is no difference between this and what happened in the Cabinet Office.
Personally I don't think Keir drinking beer proves anything, but the hypocrisy with your cant and self-righteousness over the Estrella to make this "nothing to see here" whereas that is earth shattering is ridiculous.
Different events at different times under different regulations.
The embarrassment is Estrella. Eugh. As always I take your admonishment under advisement.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
According to the Telegraph report referenced, police have seen the video but possibly not the full version. The original lasted 44 seconds; the version posted online was 34 seconds. There is nothing in the Telegraph report that suggests a smoking gun in the extra ten seconds.
It is absurd beyond belief the amount of attention given to this story, given what is happening in Ukraine.
I know loads of people who don't want to hear or read about anything more in Ukraine now. It's a war 1000 miles away. It's awful. So are lots of conflicts.
I'm not justifying this, I'm just saying that it doesn't interest a lot of people that much anymore. They're more consumed by the cost of living crisis as well as the kind of tittle tattle you deplore.
The cost of living crisis is largely down to the Russian invasion Ukraine. The resolution of the conflict is the best hope for resolving it, too.
Not really, as sanctions will continue even after a Ukranian victory. They will persist after a coup does in Putin.
Not against Ukraine it won't though.
Ukraine is a leading food exporter and they're currently unable to get their resources out due to the war. Once the war ends, they'll be able to start trading even if Russia is sanctioned.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
Come on, even you must blush at your own hypocrisy.
You were banging on for months about a can of Estrella (which wasn't even present at the event the FPN went out for), but a bottle of beer in Keir's hand - nothing to see here?
So food in the Cabinet Office is an outrageous scandal, but Keir having beers and curry isn't? Give me a break.
There is no difference between this and what happened in the Cabinet Office.
Personally I don't think Keir drinking beer proves anything, but the hypocrisy with your cant and self-righteousness over the Estrella to make this "nothing to see here" whereas that is earth shattering is ridiculous.
Different events at different times under different regulations.
The embarrassment is Estrella. Eugh. As always I take your admonishment under advisement.
Both events were under lockdown regulations indoors, so the only key difference seems to be that one involves Tories and the other involves Labour.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
According to the Telegraph report referenced, police have seen the video but possibly not the full version. The original lasted 44 seconds; the version posted online was 34 seconds. There is nothing in the Telegraph report that suggests a smoking gun in the extra ten seconds.
It is absurd beyond belief the amount of attention given to this story, given what is happening in Ukraine.
I know loads of people who don't want to hear or read about anything more in Ukraine now. It's a war 1000 miles away. It's awful. So are lots of conflicts.
I'm not justifying this, I'm just saying that it doesn't interest a lot of people that much anymore. They're more consumed by the cost of living crisis as well as the kind of tittle tattle you deplore.
The cost of living crisis is largely down to the Russian invasion Ukraine. The resolution of the conflict is the best hope for resolving it, too.
Indeed - and here in Spain petrol prices are surging again - even with the 20 cent discount which ends on 30 June. Everything so far seems more expensive here except clothing where they're having to discount heavily to get buyers, and tourism where people seem ready to splurge despite the higher costs.
The primary feeders for inflation worldwide are -
- oil and gas (see COVID shut ins/Ukraine) - supply chain (China/COVID) - and now food (Ukraine the breadbasket etc)
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Really? You've never done campaigning then. The Tories were bussing people up to Teesside from Guildford a few years ago.
Ironically the return journey might be necessary for the next GE.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Really? You've never done campaigning then. The Tories were bussing people up to Teesside from Guildford a few years ago.
“Meetings to organise and plan campaigns should be held online or over the phone. They should not take place in person. Where campaigners must attend in person, for example to collect printed materials, this should be organised on a one by one basis.”
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
Come on, even you must blush at your own hypocrisy.
You were banging on for months about a can of Estrella (which wasn't even present at the event the FPN went out for), but a bottle of beer in Keir's hand - nothing to see here?
So food in the Cabinet Office is an outrageous scandal, but Keir having beers and curry isn't? Give me a break.
There is no difference between this and what happened in the Cabinet Office.
Personally I don't think Keir drinking beer proves anything, but the hypocrisy with your cant and self-righteousness over the Estrella to make this "nothing to see here" whereas that is earth shattering is ridiculous.
Different events at different times under different regulations.
The embarrassment is Estrella. Eugh. As always I take your admonishment under advisement.
Both events were under lockdown regulations indoors, so the only key difference seems to be that one involves Tories and the other involves Labour.
Indeed. Because "lockdown regulations" were a singular event with no changes.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
Come on, even you must blush at your own hypocrisy.
You were banging on for months about a can of Estrella (which wasn't even present at the event the FPN went out for), but a bottle of beer in Keir's hand - nothing to see here?
So food in the Cabinet Office is an outrageous scandal, but Keir having beers and curry isn't? Give me a break.
There is no difference between this and what happened in the Cabinet Office.
Personally I don't think Keir drinking beer proves anything, but the hypocrisy with your cant and self-righteousness over the Estrella to make this "nothing to see here" whereas that is earth shattering is ridiculous.
Different events at different times under different regulations.
The embarrassment is Estrella. Eugh. As always I take your admonishment under advisement.
Both events were under lockdown regulations indoors, so the only key difference seems to be that one involves Tories and the other involves Labour.
Indeed. Because "lockdown regulations" were a singular event with no changes.
Pray tell what specifically had changed that meant that food in the Cabinet Office was illegal and worthy of a fine, while food and beer here wasn't?
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Really? You've never done campaigning then. The Tories were bussing people up to Teesside from Guildford a few years ago.
“Meetings to organise and plan campaigns should be held online or over the phone. They should not take place in person. Where campaigners must attend in person, for example to collect printed materials, this should be organised on a one by one basis.”
Thanks for confirming the legality of doing it in person. Had the Tories gone after Starmer for ignoring the *advise* they would have had an argument. The *advise* was that you shouldn't do face to face. But the law said different. The same law that allowed Boris to share a pint with Jill Mortimer in her one and only appearance in her constituency.
As the polls have shown, nobody has been remotely convinced of the Tory claims, and the longer they have gone on and the more hysterical in tone the funnier it has got.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
Come on, even you must blush at your own hypocrisy.
You were banging on for months about a can of Estrella (which wasn't even present at the event the FPN went out for), but a bottle of beer in Keir's hand - nothing to see here?
So food in the Cabinet Office is an outrageous scandal, but Keir having beers and curry isn't? Give me a break.
There is no difference between this and what happened in the Cabinet Office.
Personally I don't think Keir drinking beer proves anything, but the hypocrisy with your cant and self-righteousness over the Estrella to make this "nothing to see here" whereas that is earth shattering is ridiculous.
Different events at different times under different regulations.
The embarrassment is Estrella. Eugh. As always I take your admonishment under advisement.
Both events were under lockdown regulations indoors, so the only key difference seems to be that one involves Tories and the other involves Labour.
Indeed. Because "lockdown regulations" were a singular event with no changes.
Pray tell what specifically had changed that meant that food in the Cabinet Office was illegal and worthy of a fine, while food and beer here wasn't?
What specifically had changed? The law! You honestly claiming the law was the same in May/June 2020 and April 2021? Please, you are intelligent chap despite your habit of always going ludicrously all in whilst holding a pair of threes.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
According to the Telegraph report referenced, police have seen the video but possibly not the full version. The original lasted 44 seconds; the version posted online was 34 seconds. There is nothing in the Telegraph report that suggests a smoking gun in the extra ten seconds.
It is absurd beyond belief the amount of attention given to this story, given what is happening in Ukraine.
I know loads of people who don't want to hear or read about anything more in Ukraine now. It's a war 1000 miles away. It's awful. So are lots of conflicts.
I'm not justifying this, I'm just saying that it doesn't interest a lot of people that much anymore. They're more consumed by the cost of living crisis as well as the kind of tittle tattle you deplore.
The cost of living crisis is largely down to the Russian invasion Ukraine. The resolution of the conflict is the best hope for resolving it, too.
Not really, as sanctions will continue even after a Ukranian victory. They will persist after a coup does in Putin.
Not indefinitely. I didn't say it would be immediate, but it's certain that they will continue while the war does - and that would include the type of situation which persisted from 2014 until this February.
An outright defeat of the invasion has at least the chance of improving matters.
Single-use pencils at the polling station this morning. It's just not the same if the pencil isn't tied to a string. Perhaps I'll choose a voting pen for the next election.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
According to the Telegraph report referenced, police have seen the video but possibly not the full version. The original lasted 44 seconds; the version posted online was 34 seconds. There is nothing in the Telegraph report that suggests a smoking gun in the extra ten seconds.
It is absurd beyond belief the amount of attention given to this story, given what is happening in Ukraine.
I know loads of people who don't want to hear or read about anything more in Ukraine now. It's a war 1000 miles away. It's awful. So are lots of conflicts.
I'm not justifying this, I'm just saying that it doesn't interest a lot of people that much anymore. They're more consumed by the cost of living crisis as well as the kind of tittle tattle you deplore.
The cost of living crisis is largely down to the Russian invasion Ukraine. The resolution of the conflict is the best hope for resolving it, too.
Not really, although the war has made it worse. The run of inflation was predictable (and predicted) during the pandemic.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
According to the Telegraph report referenced, police have seen the video but possibly not the full version. The original lasted 44 seconds; the version posted online was 34 seconds. There is nothing in the Telegraph report that suggests a smoking gun in the extra ten seconds.
It is absurd beyond belief the amount of attention given to this story, given what is happening in Ukraine.
I know loads of people who don't want to hear or read about anything more in Ukraine now. It's a war 1000 miles away. It's awful. So are lots of conflicts.
I'm not justifying this, I'm just saying that it doesn't interest a lot of people that much anymore. They're more consumed by the cost of living crisis as well as the kind of tittle tattle you deplore.
The cost of living crisis is largely down to the Russian invasion Ukraine. The resolution of the conflict is the best hope for resolving it, too.
Not really, although the war has made it worse. The run of inflation was predictable (and predicted) during the pandemic.
Yes, which was why Sunak announced the multi-year freezing of income tax thresholds early. There were many reasons to expect a post-pandemic dose of inflation.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
Come on, even you must blush at your own hypocrisy.
You were banging on for months about a can of Estrella (which wasn't even present at the event the FPN went out for), but a bottle of beer in Keir's hand - nothing to see here?
So food in the Cabinet Office is an outrageous scandal, but Keir having beers and curry isn't? Give me a break.
There is no difference between this and what happened in the Cabinet Office.
Personally I don't think Keir drinking beer proves anything, but the hypocrisy with your cant and self-righteousness over the Estrella to make this "nothing to see here" whereas that is earth shattering is ridiculous.
Different events at different times under different regulations.
The embarrassment is Estrella. Eugh. As always I take your admonishment under advisement.
Both events were under lockdown regulations indoors, so the only key difference seems to be that one involves Tories and the other involves Labour.
Indeed. Because "lockdown regulations" were a singular event with no changes.
Pray tell what specifically had changed that meant that food in the Cabinet Office was illegal and worthy of a fine, while food and beer here wasn't?
What specifically had changed? The law! You honestly claiming the law was the same in May/June 2020 and April 2021? Please, you are intelligent chap despite your habit of always going ludicrously all in whilst holding a pair of threes.
What specifically had changed in the law to mean that it was illegal to have food at work on one day, which had been reported in The Times to no outrage at the time, but it was perfectly fine to have food and beer a different date.
What part of the law had changed to make that legal then?
We were in lockdown in April 2021 still, which I was objecting to at the time and you (from memory) were supporting.
Single-use pencils at the polling station this morning. It's just not the same if the pencil isn't tied to a string. Perhaps I'll choose a voting pen for the next election.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Really? You've never done campaigning then. The Tories were bussing people up to Teesside from Guildford a few years ago.
“Meetings to organise and plan campaigns should be held online or over the phone. They should not take place in person. Where campaigners must attend in person, for example to collect printed materials, this should be organised on a one by one basis.”
Thanks for confirming the legality of doing it in person. Had the Tories gone after Starmer for ignoring the *advise* they would have had an argument. The *advise* was that you shouldn't do face to face. But the law said different. The same law that allowed Boris to share a pint with Jill Mortimer in her one and only appearance in her constituency.
As the polls have shown, nobody has been remotely convinced of the Tory claims, and the longer they have gone on and the more hysterical in tone the funnier it has got.
This is I think your sixth straight day of obsessing about it?
Here is your daily reminder that the weakness of the case against starmer is exactly the point. This was the issue on which he was meant to wring Boris's neck like a chicken's.
Ohio 2022 Primary Results NOT previously reported on PB
MEIGS COUNTY - Unincorp. Salisbury Twp Additional Cemeteries Levy – .5 mills/5 years — For the tax levy: 118; Against the tax levy: 141
Is it like the times claim, the Ohio candidate only surged to victory with Trumps endorsement?
True.
Vance was back of the pack before the endoresment; likely that Mandel, who got support from many 45 fans, would have gotten even more, had the Sage of Mar-a-Lardo not anointed the V-man.
Hope Tim Ryan tears him a new one.
Thanks for the answer.
Is hope all you got left. It’s just a economic downturn away from all the Trump loonies winning?
Moon, you may have noticed that something even bigger than the Ohio Primary happened in America this week?
News of impending overturning of Roe v Wade by US Supreme Court has tossed a MAJOR wild card into the deck for the 2022 midterms. May help Democrats to redress the enthusiasm gap, is certainly galvanizing plenty right now.
When abortion is broadly legal, you don't have harrowing stories about rape victims committing suicide rather than carry their baby to term. You don't have scandals about people prevented from crossing state lines by restrictive laws. You don't have stories about the deaths of people carrying out home abortions based on YouTube videos.
Legal abortion - at least up until about 18 weeks or so - is supported by the vast majority of Americans.
Now, do anti-abortionists (by and large) care about it more?
Probably.
But that's because most Americans haven't had to deal with abortion being illegal. Like with Brexit, it is those who wish to change the status quo who are the most motivated.
I think this is a Pyrrhic victory for the anti-abortion lobby, that will end in abortion being legally endorsed at the ballot box in more than 40 states in the next decade.
One issue may be this: there are some references or suggestions in the Alito judgment to the foetus having legal personality. Depending on how these are put and interpreted, it is possible that any state pro-abortion law might be struck down as unconstitutional on the basis that the foetus - as a person - has a right to life.
I am no US lawyer and we don't have the final judgment but that might well be a risk.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Really? You've never done campaigning then. The Tories were bussing people up to Teesside from Guildford a few years ago.
“Meetings to organise and plan campaigns should be held online or over the phone. They should not take place in person. Where campaigners must attend in person, for example to collect printed materials, this should be organised on a one by one basis.”
Thanks for confirming the legality of doing it in person. Had the Tories gone after Starmer for ignoring the *advise* they would have had an argument. The *advise* was that you shouldn't do face to face. But the law said different. The same law that allowed Boris to share a pint with Jill Mortimer in her one and only appearance in her constituency.
As the polls have shown, nobody has been remotely convinced of the Tory claims, and the longer they have gone on and the more hysterical in tone the funnier it has got.
Do your SNP comrades know you spend all your time on here defending SKS?
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
Come on, even you must blush at your own hypocrisy.
You were banging on for months about a can of Estrella (which wasn't even present at the event the FPN went out for), but a bottle of beer in Keir's hand - nothing to see here?
So food in the Cabinet Office is an outrageous scandal, but Keir having beers and curry isn't? Give me a break.
There is no difference between this and what happened in the Cabinet Office.
Personally I don't think Keir drinking beer proves anything, but the hypocrisy with your cant and self-righteousness over the Estrella to make this "nothing to see here" whereas that is earth shattering is ridiculous.
Different events at different times under different regulations.
The embarrassment is Estrella. Eugh. As always I take your admonishment under advisement.
Both events were under lockdown regulations indoors, so the only key difference seems to be that one involves Tories and the other involves Labour.
Indeed. Because "lockdown regulations" were a singular event with no changes.
Pray tell what specifically had changed that meant that food in the Cabinet Office was illegal and worthy of a fine, while food and beer here wasn't?
What specifically had changed? The law! You honestly claiming the law was the same in May/June 2020 and April 2021? Please, you are intelligent chap despite your habit of always going ludicrously all in whilst holding a pair of threes.
What specifically had changed in the law to mean that it was illegal to have food at work on one day, which had been reported in The Times to no outrage at the time, but it was perfectly fine to have food and beer a different date.
What part of the law had changed to make that legal then?
We were in lockdown in April 2021 still, which I was objecting to at the time and you (from memory) were supporting.
Did Johnson not eat on his successful campaign visits to Hartlepool?
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Really? You've never done campaigning then. The Tories were bussing people up to Teesside from Guildford a few years ago.
“Meetings to organise and plan campaigns should be held online or over the phone. They should not take place in person. Where campaigners must attend in person, for example to collect printed materials, this should be organised on a one by one basis.”
Thanks for confirming the legality of doing it in person. Had the Tories gone after Starmer for ignoring the *advise* they would have had an argument. The *advise* was that you shouldn't do face to face. But the law said different. The same law that allowed Boris to share a pint with Jill Mortimer in her one and only appearance in her constituency.
As the polls have shown, nobody has been remotely convinced of the Tory claims, and the longer they have gone on and the more hysterical in tone the funnier it has got.
Do your SNP comrades know you spend all your time on here defending SKS?
If you can't tell the difference between Slab, the SNP, and the LDs, that might explain why you're always on here slagging off your party leader?
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
I really do not want to labour this but the police are accused of not viewing the available video, Starmer admits 30 were in attendance, the £200 is about the cost of curries for 30, and it appears an on line quiz was involved
I have received a lot of criticism for posting about this story from those wanting it to be not so, but it appears this is story that has a momentum of its own across the media involving journalists sensing a story, including journalists (Kay Burley and others) who are not HMG friendly
Sir Peter Fahy, former chief constable of Greater Manchester has said today that Durham Police should reconsider a probe into the allegations
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Really? You've never done campaigning then. The Tories were bussing people up to Teesside from Guildford a few years ago.
“Meetings to organise and plan campaigns should be held online or over the phone. They should not take place in person. Where campaigners must attend in person, for example to collect printed materials, this should be organised on a one by one basis.”
Thanks for confirming the legality of doing it in person. Had the Tories gone after Starmer for ignoring the *advise* they would have had an argument. The *advise* was that you shouldn't do face to face. But the law said different. The same law that allowed Boris to share a pint with Jill Mortimer in her one and only appearance in her constituency.
As the polls have shown, nobody has been remotely convinced of the Tory claims, and the longer they have gone on and the more hysterical in tone the funnier it has got.
It may not have moved the polling yet; that doesn’t mean it won’t.
Fifteen to thirty people meeting face to face, eating and boozing together, is really rather stretching the “advise”[sic].
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Really? You've never done campaigning then. The Tories were bussing people up to Teesside from Guildford a few years ago.
“Meetings to organise and plan campaigns should be held online or over the phone. They should not take place in person. Where campaigners must attend in person, for example to collect printed materials, this should be organised on a one by one basis.”
Thanks for confirming the legality of doing it in person. Had the Tories gone after Starmer for ignoring the *advise* they would have had an argument. The *advise* was that you shouldn't do face to face. But the law said different. The same law that allowed Boris to share a pint with Jill Mortimer in her one and only appearance in her constituency.
As the polls have shown, nobody has been remotely convinced of the Tory claims, and the longer they have gone on and the more hysterical in tone the funnier it has got.
This is I think your sixth straight day of obsessing about it?
Here is your daily reminder that the weakness of the case against starmer is exactly the point. This was the issue on which he was meant to wring Boris's neck like a chicken's.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Really? You've never done campaigning then. The Tories were bussing people up to Teesside from Guildford a few years ago.
“Meetings to organise and plan campaigns should be held online or over the phone. They should not take place in person. Where campaigners must attend in person, for example to collect printed materials, this should be organised on a one by one basis.”
Thanks for confirming the legality of doing it in person. Had the Tories gone after Starmer for ignoring the *advise* they would have had an argument. The *advise* was that you shouldn't do face to face. But the law said different. The same law that allowed Boris to share a pint with Jill Mortimer in her one and only appearance in her constituency.
As the polls have shown, nobody has been remotely convinced of the Tory claims, and the longer they have gone on and the more hysterical in tone the funnier it has got.
Do your SNP comrades know you spend all your time on here defending SKS?
They're sat next to me and Lord Mandelson in the same room. Mandy says "hi" btw
Ohio 2022 Primary Results NOT previously reported on PB
MEIGS COUNTY - Unincorp. Salisbury Twp Additional Cemeteries Levy – .5 mills/5 years — For the tax levy: 118; Against the tax levy: 141
Is it like the times claim, the Ohio candidate only surged to victory with Trumps endorsement?
True.
Vance was back of the pack before the endoresment; likely that Mandel, who got support from many 45 fans, would have gotten even more, had the Sage of Mar-a-Lardo not anointed the V-man.
Hope Tim Ryan tears him a new one.
Thanks for the answer.
Is hope all you got left. It’s just a economic downturn away from all the Trump loonies winning?
Moon, you may have noticed that something even bigger than the Ohio Primary happened in America this week?
News of impending overturning of Roe v Wade by US Supreme Court has tossed a MAJOR wild card into the deck for the 2022 midterms. May help Democrats to redress the enthusiasm gap, is certainly galvanizing plenty right now.
When abortion is broadly legal, you don't have harrowing stories about rape victims committing suicide rather than carry their baby to term. You don't have scandals about people prevented from crossing state lines by restrictive laws. You don't have stories about the deaths of people carrying out home abortions based on YouTube videos.
Legal abortion - at least up until about 18 weeks or so - is supported by the vast majority of Americans.
Now, do anti-abortionists (by and large) care about it more?
Probably.
But that's because most Americans haven't had to deal with abortion being illegal. Like with Brexit, it is those who wish to change the status quo who are the most motivated.
I think this is a Pyrrhic victory for the anti-abortion lobby, that will end in abortion being legally endorsed at the ballot box in more than 40 states in the next decade.
One issue may be this: there are some references or suggestions in the Alito judgment to the foetus having legal personality. Depending on how these are put and interpreted, it is possible that any state pro-abortion law might be struck down as unconstitutional on the basis that the foetus - as a person - has a right to life.
I am no US lawyer and we don't have the final judgment but that might well be a risk.
Not at this point - though it's certainly a future possibility. The current opinion is more about enabling unchecked anti-abortion laws. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/05/alito-opinion-abortion-pregnancy-coffee-cigarette-bans.html ...Alito’s draft opinion says that it takes no position on whether or when a fetus has legal rights. Unsurprisingly, given the very different laws currently on the books in different states, it contemplates that states will fall onto a spectrum of permitting versus prohibiting abortion. But in the actual meat of the opinion, in which Alito lays out the legal analysis lower courts should follow, he tips his hand: If future laws regulating abortion are challenged in court, the judge should apply the lowest level of constitutional scrutiny, known as rational basis review. Under this test, someone arguing that a law violates their constitutional rights must prove that the law has no rational relationship to a legitimate goal. For obvious reasons, this is incredibly difficult to do, and laws are practically never struck down under that test. Alito goes further, however, and supplies the legitimate goal, writing “These legitimate interests include respect for and preservation of prenatal life at all stages of development.”...
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
Come on, even you must blush at your own hypocrisy.
You were banging on for months about a can of Estrella (which wasn't even present at the event the FPN went out for), but a bottle of beer in Keir's hand - nothing to see here?
So food in the Cabinet Office is an outrageous scandal, but Keir having beers and curry isn't? Give me a break.
There is no difference between this and what happened in the Cabinet Office.
Personally I don't think Keir drinking beer proves anything, but the hypocrisy with your cant and self-righteousness over the Estrella to make this "nothing to see here" whereas that is earth shattering is ridiculous.
Different events at different times under different regulations.
The embarrassment is Estrella. Eugh. As always I take your admonishment under advisement.
Both events were under lockdown regulations indoors, so the only key difference seems to be that one involves Tories and the other involves Labour.
Indeed. Because "lockdown regulations" were a singular event with no changes.
Pray tell what specifically had changed that meant that food in the Cabinet Office was illegal and worthy of a fine, while food and beer here wasn't?
What specifically had changed? The law! You honestly claiming the law was the same in May/June 2020 and April 2021? Please, you are intelligent chap despite your habit of always going ludicrously all in whilst holding a pair of threes.
What specifically had changed in the law to mean that it was illegal to have food at work on one day, which had been reported in The Times to no outrage at the time, but it was perfectly fine to have food and beer a different date.
What part of the law had changed to make that legal then?
We were in lockdown in April 2021 still, which I was objecting to at the time and you (from memory) were supporting.
Did Johnson not eat on his successful campaign visits to Hartlepool?
I'm not the one who was outraged by food in the Cabinet Office and thought a FPN was appropriate for an event reported to no scandal at the time. Its the hypocrisy here which is telling.
Keir having food and beer in a campaign visit is about as serious an issue as Boris having food in the Cabinet Office, but for some bizarre and twisted reason that isn't "not at all" for both.
If you're going to cause a stink over someone eating and drinking, don't be surprised if it turns out that your guy has been eating and drinking as well.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Really? You've never done campaigning then. The Tories were bussing people up to Teesside from Guildford a few years ago.
“Meetings to organise and plan campaigns should be held online or over the phone. They should not take place in person. Where campaigners must attend in person, for example to collect printed materials, this should be organised on a one by one basis.”
Thanks for confirming the legality of doing it in person. Had the Tories gone after Starmer for ignoring the *advise* they would have had an argument. The *advise* was that you shouldn't do face to face. But the law said different. The same law that allowed Boris to share a pint with Jill Mortimer in her one and only appearance in her constituency.
As the polls have shown, nobody has been remotely convinced of the Tory claims, and the longer they have gone on and the more hysterical in tone the funnier it has got.
This is I think your sixth straight day of obsessing about it?
Here is your daily reminder that the weakness of the case against starmer is exactly the point. This was the issue on which he was meant to wring Boris's neck like a chicken's.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
I really do not want to labour this but the police are accused of not viewing the available video, Starmer admits 30 were in attendance, the £200 is about the cost of curries for 30, and it appears an on line quiz was involved
I have received a lot of criticism for posting about this story from those wanting it to be not so, but it appears this is story that has a momentum of its own across the media involving journalists sensing a story, including journalists (Kay Burley and others) who are not HMG friendly
Sir Peter Fahy, former chief constable of Greater Manchester has said today that Durham Police should reconsider a probe into the allegations
When you say the police are accused of not viewing the available video, do you mean they are accused of not viewing the last 10 seconds of the video that were not posted to social media?
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
I really do not want to labour this but the police are accused of not viewing the available video, Starmer admits 30 were in attendance, the £200 is about the cost of curries for 30, and it appears an on line quiz was involved
I have received a lot of criticism for posting about this story from those wanting it to be not so, but it appears this is story that has a momentum of its own across the media involving journalists sensing a story, including journalists (Kay Burley and others) who are not HMG friendly
Sir Peter Fahy, former chief constable of Greater Manchester has said today that Durham Police should reconsider a probe into the allegations
Good Morning. Light cloud here, with some sun. Not a good day chez Cole as we have the funeral of an old friend later today, and OKC himself has been told he's got a problem with the nerve supply to his right hand.
Wouldn't regard it as a legitimate word if it had been me setting it
Feckin dangers of getting 3 letters early. Saw something on twitter half way through saying it was US slang so plumped for specific US slang on last try. IT’S UK SLANG YOU MUPPET.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Really? You've never done campaigning then. The Tories were bussing people up to Teesside from Guildford a few years ago.
“Meetings to organise and plan campaigns should be held online or over the phone. They should not take place in person. Where campaigners must attend in person, for example to collect printed materials, this should be organised on a one by one basis.”
Thanks for confirming the legality of doing it in person. Had the Tories gone after Starmer for ignoring the *advise* they would have had an argument. The *advise* was that you shouldn't do face to face. But the law said different. The same law that allowed Boris to share a pint with Jill Mortimer in her one and only appearance in her constituency.
As the polls have shown, nobody has been remotely convinced of the Tory claims, and the longer they have gone on and the more hysterical in tone the funnier it has got.
This is I think your sixth straight day of obsessing about it?
Here is your daily reminder that the weakness of the case against starmer is exactly the point. This was the issue on which he was meant to wring Boris's neck like a chicken's.
Erm I didn't start the conversation, Blanche did.
No need to take the bait
SKS is just not up to it. We Want Angela. When do we want her? Now.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
Come on, even you must blush at your own hypocrisy.
You were banging on for months about a can of Estrella (which wasn't even present at the event the FPN went out for), but a bottle of beer in Keir's hand - nothing to see here?
So food in the Cabinet Office is an outrageous scandal, but Keir having beers and curry isn't? Give me a break.
There is no difference between this and what happened in the Cabinet Office.
Personally I don't think Keir drinking beer proves anything, but the hypocrisy with your cant and self-righteousness over the Estrella to make this "nothing to see here" whereas that is earth shattering is ridiculous.
Different events at different times under different regulations.
The embarrassment is Estrella. Eugh. As always I take your admonishment under advisement.
Both events were under lockdown regulations indoors, so the only key difference seems to be that one involves Tories and the other involves Labour.
Indeed. Because "lockdown regulations" were a singular event with no changes.
Pray tell what specifically had changed that meant that food in the Cabinet Office was illegal and worthy of a fine, while food and beer here wasn't?
What specifically had changed? The law! You honestly claiming the law was the same in May/June 2020 and April 2021? Please, you are intelligent chap despite your habit of always going ludicrously all in whilst holding a pair of threes.
What specifically had changed in the law to mean that it was illegal to have food at work on one day, which had been reported in The Times to no outrage at the time, but it was perfectly fine to have food and beer a different date.
What part of the law had changed to make that legal then?
We were in lockdown in April 2021 still, which I was objecting to at the time and you (from memory) were supporting.
Did Johnson not eat on his successful campaign visits to Hartlepool?
I'm not the one who was outraged by food in the Cabinet Office and thought a FPN was appropriate for an event reported to no scandal at the time. Its the hypocrisy here which is telling.
Keir having food and beer in a campaign visit is about as serious an issue as Boris having food in the Cabinet Office, but for some bizarre and twisted reason that isn't "not at all" for both.
If you're going to cause a stink over someone eating and drinking, don't be surprised if it turns out that your guy has been eating and drinking as well.
Johnson did not receive an FPN for eating and drinking. This is a red herring.
Have just watched the highlights of last night's match. How on earth did Citeh throw that away? On 86' Grealish nearly scores twice. Should have been dead and buried. Then Madrid wake up, score 2 on the bounce and its almost 3.
Bravo Citeh. You'll be as good* as United if you keep screwing up like that.
City threw it away last summer when they did not spring for Harry Kane.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Really? You've never done campaigning then. The Tories were bussing people up to Teesside from Guildford a few years ago.
“Meetings to organise and plan campaigns should be held online or over the phone. They should not take place in person. Where campaigners must attend in person, for example to collect printed materials, this should be organised on a one by one basis.”
Thanks for confirming the legality of doing it in person. Had the Tories gone after Starmer for ignoring the *advise* they would have had an argument. The *advise* was that you shouldn't do face to face. But the law said different. The same law that allowed Boris to share a pint with Jill Mortimer in her one and only appearance in her constituency.
As the polls have shown, nobody has been remotely convinced of the Tory claims, and the longer they have gone on and the more hysterical in tone the funnier it has got.
Do your SNP comrades know you spend all your time on here defending SKS?
If you can't tell the difference between Slab, the SNP, and the LDs, that might explain why you're always on here slagging off your party leader?
Not my party. Not RP party. He is defending SKS for 6 days running whilst being a Candidate for a competing party
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
Come on, even you must blush at your own hypocrisy.
You were banging on for months about a can of Estrella (which wasn't even present at the event the FPN went out for), but a bottle of beer in Keir's hand - nothing to see here?
So food in the Cabinet Office is an outrageous scandal, but Keir having beers and curry isn't? Give me a break.
There is no difference between this and what happened in the Cabinet Office.
Personally I don't think Keir drinking beer proves anything, but the hypocrisy with your cant and self-righteousness over the Estrella to make this "nothing to see here" whereas that is earth shattering is ridiculous.
Different events at different times under different regulations.
The embarrassment is Estrella. Eugh. As always I take your admonishment under advisement.
Both events were under lockdown regulations indoors, so the only key difference seems to be that one involves Tories and the other involves Labour.
Indeed. Because "lockdown regulations" were a singular event with no changes.
Pray tell what specifically had changed that meant that food in the Cabinet Office was illegal and worthy of a fine, while food and beer here wasn't?
What specifically had changed? The law! You honestly claiming the law was the same in May/June 2020 and April 2021? Please, you are intelligent chap despite your habit of always going ludicrously all in whilst holding a pair of threes.
What specifically had changed in the law to mean that it was illegal to have food at work on one day, which had been reported in The Times to no outrage at the time, but it was perfectly fine to have food and beer a different date.
What part of the law had changed to make that legal then?
We were in lockdown in April 2021 still, which I was objecting to at the time and you (from memory) were supporting.
Did Johnson not eat on his successful campaign visits to Hartlepool?
I'm not the one who was outraged by food in the Cabinet Office and thought a FPN was appropriate for an event reported to no scandal at the time. Its the hypocrisy here which is telling.
Keir having food and beer in a campaign visit is about as serious an issue as Boris having food in the Cabinet Office, but for some bizarre and twisted reason that isn't "not at all" for both.
If you're going to cause a stink over someone eating and drinking, don't be surprised if it turns out that your guy has been eating and drinking as well.
Boris "just" being ambushed by a cake will be seen as a mistruth when the Gray Report is published. I think we should all wait for the Gray report...oh wait it was written by Communists and can't be trusted.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Really? You've never done campaigning then. The Tories were bussing people up to Teesside from Guildford a few years ago.
“Meetings to organise and plan campaigns should be held online or over the phone. They should not take place in person. Where campaigners must attend in person, for example to collect printed materials, this should be organised on a one by one basis.”
Thanks for confirming the legality of doing it in person. Had the Tories gone after Starmer for ignoring the *advise* they would have had an argument. The *advise* was that you shouldn't do face to face. But the law said different. The same law that allowed Boris to share a pint with Jill Mortimer in her one and only appearance in her constituency.
As the polls have shown, nobody has been remotely convinced of the Tory claims, and the longer they have gone on and the more hysterical in tone the funnier it has got.
Do your SNP comrades know you spend all your time on here defending SKS?
If you can't tell the difference between Slab, the SNP, and the LDs, that might explain why you're always on here slagging off your party leader?
Not my party. Not RP party. He is defending SKS for 6 days running whilst being a Candidate for a competing party
I’d hate to live in a world so partisan that we are not allowed to speak well of someone in another party.
Christopher Hope📝 @christopherhope · 1h The film maker [of the Starmer video] added: “It was pretty outrageous because at the time we were not allowed to have our friends over and everything was shut down, feeling very isolated.
"It was a kick in the teeth that they were having a bit of a jolly inside. So I thought I would film it."
The @Telegraph has established that the person who made the video recording of Sir Keir has not been questioned by detectives or asked to hand over the original recording.
The individual who made the film said: "I have not had any contact [from the police] yet.”
Its been "investigated" claims Rochdale who spent months banging on about Boris being photographed with beer in hand.
The *stills* from the video have been in the media since the event itself. I'm not a copper, but if someone says "I wish to complain about the party that Starmer had" and image of said party are in the newspapers, and the images don't show an offence being committed, then what do you want them to do?
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
In what way was fifteen to thirty (accounts vary) people being in the same office at all necessary for a by-election campaign in a different constituency?
Really? You've never done campaigning then. The Tories were bussing people up to Teesside from Guildford a few years ago.
“Meetings to organise and plan campaigns should be held online or over the phone. They should not take place in person. Where campaigners must attend in person, for example to collect printed materials, this should be organised on a one by one basis.”
Thanks for confirming the legality of doing it in person. Had the Tories gone after Starmer for ignoring the *advise* they would have had an argument. The *advise* was that you shouldn't do face to face. But the law said different. The same law that allowed Boris to share a pint with Jill Mortimer in her one and only appearance in her constituency.
As the polls have shown, nobody has been remotely convinced of the Tory claims, and the longer they have gone on and the more hysterical in tone the funnier it has got.
Do your SNP comrades know you spend all your time on here defending SKS?
If you can't tell the difference between Slab, the SNP, and the LDs, that might explain why you're always on here slagging off your party leader?
Not my party. Not RP party. He is defending SKS for 6 days running whilst being a Candidate for a competing party
That's because he is a LD not a Tory. He doesn't believe in someone getting prosecuted for nothing illegal on the basis of malicious information from the party in power.
Single-use pencils at the polling station this morning. It's just not the same if the pencil isn't tied to a string. Perhaps I'll choose a voting pen for the next election.
My polling card instructs me ("you must") to bring my own pencil. No mention of string. The stubby pencil on string is the slender thread that separates us from North Korea.
Expect some awareness raising charity (Pencilbank? Women Against Pencil Poverty?) to point out that the poor are too poverty stricken to bring their own pencil because they can't afford one and that they are turning up, pencilless, at polling stations and hanging around inside to keep warm.
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Got it on the last attempt.
The closest I’ve come to completely failing!
News of impending overturning of Roe v Wade by US Supreme Court has tossed a MAJOR wild card into the deck for the 2022 midterms. May help Democrats to redress the enthusiasm gap, is certainly galvanizing plenty right now.
Saints once did abortions – it was a lesser sin than oral sex
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/saints-once-did-abortions-it-was-a-lesser-sin-than-oral-sex-1.3466881
Of course some US states had laws against the latter, too.
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The man who wants to one day be Prime Minister cannot behave like this. He has a responsibility to be open, honest and transparent with the public. #Beergate
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For a start, these elections are mostly in Labour heartlands. In 2018, they got twice as many councillors elected as the Conservatives.
Opinion | Why Abortion May Not Stay a ‘State’s Rights’ Issue for Very Long
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/04/roe-wade-abortion-war-states-rights-nuclear-00030037
Edit... and similarly with the interest and extensive discussion regarding abortion and states rights in the US.
When abortion is broadly legal, you don't have harrowing stories about rape victims committing suicide rather than carry their baby to term. You don't have scandals about people prevented from crossing state lines by restrictive laws. You don't have stories about the deaths of people carrying out home abortions based on YouTube videos.
Legal abortion - at least up until about 18 weeks or so - is supported by the vast majority of Americans.
Now, do anti-abortionists (by and large) care about it more?
Probably.
But that's because most Americans haven't had to deal with abortion being illegal. Like with Brexit, it is those who wish to change the status quo who are the most motivated.
I think this is a Pyrrhic victory for the anti-abortion lobby, that will end in abortion being legally endorsed at the ballot box in more than 40 states in the next decade.
Interesting dose of realism from Kieran Pedley, Ben Walker and Co. over at Britain Elects / New Statesman. Basically suggesting 100-200 council seats changing hands. Which would be very very 'meh' and definitely not worth staying up for in my opinion.
Now that the tories lanced the boil by a) exaggerated expectation management '800' loss nonsense and b) nonsense about Keir Starmer Boris Johnson will be safe and he will go on to fight the 2024 General Election, which he will lose.
Just one yellow there
Thank God we have such a lively league.'
Thank God?
The top of the Premier League is funded by dirty money. The fans mostly don't mind as long as their teams win but the fact is that football in England stinks. It's awash with the filthy money of Russia and the Middle East.
The lack of ethics and morality over this is appalling.
I honestly thought she couldn’t be as stupid as she came across. Clearly I was right and she’s much stupider.
I'm not justifying this, I'm just saying that it doesn't interest a lot of people that much anymore. They're more consumed by the cost of living crisis as well as the kind of tittle tattle you deplore.
Which could mean problems with typing.
CON: -206
LAB: +147
LDEM: +34
GRN: +35
SNP: -12
PC: -14
Serious question - have you tried using dictation if you have an IPad or iPhone?
It too would be a Pyrric victory, but the political disruption would be immense.
The point here is that this conflict directly affects us; because we are supplying Ukraine with arms and Putin is of the view that he is at war with us.
What if his mobilisation fails and it is the endgame for his regime (a likely scenario) - he has nukes pointed at us.
I think we are doing the right thing but have concern that it will not be sustained due to wavering public opinion because the tories aren't doing enough regarding the cost of living problems.
This is far more dangerous on an existential level than the terrorist threat from 2001 onwards.
It is perhaps inevitable that people will try and wish the problem away by being distracted by porngate and partygate, etc.
In the latter case, like it or not, US politics constitutes the most liquid and arguably most interesting betting market.
Beergate, I agree with you.
We're going to keep going round the same loop forever. Another day, another AMAZING REVELATION of some non-detail we supposedly didn't know about which makes sod all difference to the legal case.
Come on Tories. Demand to know if the £200 for the curry was properly declared on the election return. You can still prove Boris innocent if you try hard enough.
People still care.
So over 800 losses is certainly expectations management from CCHQ
You were banging on for months about a can of Estrella (which wasn't even present at the event the FPN went out for), but a bottle of beer in Keir's hand - nothing to see here?
So food in the Cabinet Office is an outrageous scandal, but Keir having beers and curry isn't? Give me a break.
There is no difference between this and what happened in the Cabinet Office.
Personally I don't think Keir drinking beer proves anything, but the hypocrisy with your cant and self-righteousness over the Estrella to make this "nothing to see here" whereas that is earth shattering is ridiculous.
Bravo Citeh. You'll be as good* as United if you keep screwing up like that.
I recall that when Peter Hain was caught up in financial irregularities over his Deputy Leadership bid the media rehashed the same story over and over again for around ten days until he was forced out. We must nearly be at that point with Starmer.To quote David Davis "for the love of God man, go!"
The embarrassment is Estrella. Eugh. As always I take your admonishment under advisement.
Ukraine is a leading food exporter and they're currently unable to get their resources out due to the war. Once the war ends, they'll be able to start trading even if Russia is sanctioned.
- oil and gas (see COVID shut ins/Ukraine)
- supply chain (China/COVID)
- and now food (Ukraine the breadbasket etc)
I’m on data duty so spending my day glued to WhatsApp and a spreadsheet. Let’s see if we can’t shift another couple of wards out of the blue column…
As the polls have shown, nobody has been remotely convinced of the Tory claims, and the longer they have gone on and the more hysterical in tone the funnier it has got.
I didn't say it would be immediate, but it's certain that they will continue while the war does - and that would include the type of situation which persisted from 2014 until this February.
An outright defeat of the invasion has at least the chance of improving matters.
What part of the law had changed to make that legal then?
We were in lockdown in April 2021 still, which I was objecting to at the time and you (from memory) were supporting.
Here is your daily reminder that the weakness of the case against starmer is exactly the point. This was the issue on which he was meant to wring Boris's neck like a chicken's.
I am no US lawyer and we don't have the final judgment but that might well be a risk.
Can I modify your sentence? "Will there be FPNs issued overnight or are the fines being done tomorrow?".
I have received a lot of criticism for posting about this story from those wanting it to be not so, but it appears this is story that has a momentum of its own across the media involving journalists sensing a story, including journalists (Kay Burley and others) who are not HMG friendly
Sir Peter Fahy, former chief constable of Greater Manchester has said today that Durham Police should reconsider a probe into the allegations
Fifteen to thirty people meeting face to face, eating and boozing together, is really rather stretching the “advise”[sic].
The current opinion is more about enabling unchecked anti-abortion laws.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/05/alito-opinion-abortion-pregnancy-coffee-cigarette-bans.html
...Alito’s draft opinion says that it takes no position on whether or when a fetus has legal rights. Unsurprisingly, given the very different laws currently on the books in different states, it contemplates that states will fall onto a spectrum of permitting versus prohibiting abortion. But in the actual meat of the opinion, in which Alito lays out the legal analysis lower courts should follow, he tips his hand: If future laws regulating abortion are challenged in court, the judge should apply the lowest level of constitutional scrutiny, known as rational basis review. Under this test, someone arguing that a law violates their constitutional rights must prove that the law has no rational relationship to a legitimate goal. For obvious reasons, this is incredibly difficult to do, and laws are practically never struck down under that test. Alito goes further, however, and supplies the legitimate goal, writing “These legitimate interests include respect for and preservation of prenatal life at all stages of development.”...
Keir having food and beer in a campaign visit is about as serious an issue as Boris having food in the Cabinet Office, but for some bizarre and twisted reason that isn't "not at all" for both.
If you're going to cause a stink over someone eating and drinking, don't be surprised if it turns out that your guy has been eating and drinking as well.
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SKS is just not up to it. We Want Angela. When do we want her? Now.
Expect some awareness raising charity (Pencilbank? Women Against Pencil Poverty?) to point out that the poor are too poverty stricken to bring their own pencil because they can't afford one and that they are turning up, pencilless, at polling stations and hanging around inside to keep warm.
As usual thank you to
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