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  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375
    Sitting outside. First time this year.

    In shorts and a short sleeved shirt.

    Too nice an evening to waste.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    edited March 2022
    FYI, everybody should update their browsers ASAP. The naughty cyber criminals in North Korea have heen using a zero day exploit for Chromium based browsers, which has now been found out. Google have issued an emergency stand alone update, which they virtually never do. Only a matter of time before wider network of hackers and scammer use the exploit.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,648
    ydoethur said:

    Sitting outside. First time this year.

    In shorts and a short sleeved shirt.

    Too nice an evening to waste.

    Jealous, in the nicest possible way. It’s a shitty weekend to be tucked up with CV19, but it could be worse.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    BigRich said:

    Nigelb said:

    The guy tabulating combat equipment losses.
    The blacklog of destroyed Russian equipment is still the same as before. The volume of new materiel prevents me from starting on it.
    https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1507786441962758151

    Is this Chap, just doing it himself, as a hobby so to speak, or is he employed by an organisation?

    I'm surprised that somebody could not help him, there must be lots of Tank-spotter geeks who would love the Qudoes of being involved in this.
    Collaboration with one other guy, I think.
    Obviously there’s a load of people out there sending them images, but I think they do all the assessment themselves - which is probably the only way to keep something set up so quickly honest.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,521
    BigRich said:

    Nigelb said:

    The guy tabulating combat equipment losses.
    The blacklog of destroyed Russian equipment is still the same as before. The volume of new materiel prevents me from starting on it.
    https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1507786441962758151

    Is this Chap, just doing it himself, as a hobby so to speak, or is he employed by an organisation?

    I'm surprised that somebody could not help him, there must be lots of Tank-spotter geeks who would love the Qudoes of being involved in this.
    I believe he has a lot of help from others online including the extensive checking and geo-locating. But in the end it is he who is doing the final compiling and cataloguing and that is in itself a huge amount of work.
  • ApplicantApplicant Posts: 3,379
    VAR rocks.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    edited March 2022
    Thanks for the Perez tip, MD. :smile:
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    Perez on pole; long odds for that!
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,215
    ydoethur said:

    Sitting outside. First time this year.

    In shorts and a short sleeved shirt.

    Too nice an evening to waste.

    Last one for a while, if the forecast is to be believed.

    British Summer Time stating in its usual ironic way.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    Kane appeared really nervous there.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375
    Wow. Where did that lap come from for Perez?
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468
    Farooq said:

    TimT said:

    RobD said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Supermarket. Everybody wearing masks apart from two 30-ish year old men, so ~98% wearing.

    This mask that does F all as proved by Scotland
    For the thousandth time, mask wearing rates can never explain the overall rates. Demographic and spatial factors are massively influential. If you try to predict outcomes from on variable in a complex system, it's like predicting football results based on shirt colour.
    so how are Scotland and England any different in them ? Masks do F all
    That's not what actual scientific studies on the matter show.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm
    I have no doubt that mask-wearing was a very valuable component of combatting the spread for most of the pandemic, but I have very strong doubts that, with omicron and BA.2, that is still true for anything other than N95 and better masks now, simply because the R is so high.

    The study pre-dates omicron. And it does not prove the effectiveness of masks as clearly as the table implies, given that there is self-reporting involved. People who self-report to wear masks indoors probably are more risk averse to COVID in every aspect of their lives - the amount of time they spend outside their house, in company with other people, indoors in public areas, how close they get to others, how frequently and diligently they wash their hands, and so on and so on.

    Thus, from my reading of the paper, what the graphic shows is that people who self-report as always wearing masks indoors have a mindset and a set of behaviours which, combined, reduce their chances of getting COVID by the stated number. I highly doubt that all, or even the majority of, the stated reduction was directly attributable to mask-wearing, even before omicron came along.
    There have been other studies done that control for confounding variables that you describe that unambiguously show that masks were an effective prevention against Covid spread, not at all relying on self-declared usage.
    All the ones I've seen were pre-Omicron, so I'm not sticking my neck out on how things are NOW, but the last I looked, autumn, it was clear that masks worked on pre-Omicron, from multiple high-quality studies with different methodologies.
    As I said, I do believe masks were an important tool in the box.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375
    Jonathan said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sitting outside. First time this year.

    In shorts and a short sleeved shirt.

    Too nice an evening to waste.

    Jealous, in the nicest possible way. It’s a shitty weekend to be tucked up with CV19, but it could be worse.
    Get well soon, friend.

    I don't get many chances to sit outside peacefully sipping a cider, so I hope you'll forgive me for making the most of my good fortune.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Nigelb said:

    The Omicron wave in South Korea, a model country for managing its pandemic, has led to the highest current per capita death rate of any country in the world
    https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1507758525447294977

    Not an interesting test, because I'm not aware of other countries having bodies piled in the street. Impossible to contextualise

    Also worldometers doesn't seem to know about the existence of either Korea. Not helping.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    Dubai welcoming Russian money and saying Fuck the West

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/26/dubai-throws-open-the-doors-for-the-rich-russians-escaping-sanctions?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    Really?

    I’ve been crunching the numbers. The combined GDP of the West is about $45-50 Trillion.

    TRILLION. The entire global economy is $80 trillion

    And by the West I mean USA, EU, UK, Japan, Canada, South Korea, Switzerland etc.

    I’ve left out big economies which might be deemed neutral: India, Brazil, Mexico, Indonesia, Vietnam - who knows which they would ultimately swing.

    The West is, still, overwhelmingly powerful and, still, technologically far more advanced. We need to man up and beat the living shit out of parasitical little blobs like the UAE. And Ireland
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,310
    I wrote a header about this the other day - https://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2022/03/19/not-again/

    But the details in this story about maternity care failures at Shrewsbury are truly shocking and saddening.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fatal-nhs-obsession-with-natural-births-nxdsvxn5v

    The perils of targets and idees fixe combined to do great harm to mothers and babies.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    edited March 2022
    Jonathan said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sitting outside. First time this year.

    In shorts and a short sleeved shirt.

    Too nice an evening to waste.

    Jealous, in the nicest possible way. It’s a shitty weekend to be tucked up with CV19, but it could be worse.
    I’m also down with the fucking lurgy, caught from my friends. AGAIN. Sympathies
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,717

    FYI, everybody should update their browsers ASAP. The naughty cyber criminals in North Korea have heen using a zero day exploit for Chromium based browsers, which has now been found out. Google have issued an emergency stand alone update, which they virtually never do. Only a matter of time before wider network of hackers and scammer use the exploit.

    Is it just Chrome or are Safari, Firefox etc also affected?

  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486
    ydoethur said:

    Sitting outside. First time this year.

    In shorts and a short sleeved shirt.

    Too nice an evening to waste.

    Have been outside all week enjoying the sun and warmer dry evenings accompanied by various quantities of drinks (probably can be directly related to my postings). Spent all day outside on the terrace and now watching the sun dip down west. I know the weather is supposed to turn again next week but this week is the amuse bouche of weather giving a taster of late spring and summer.

    The joy of seeing bumblebees, butterflies and wasps that aren’t actually interested in you as they are waking up and working.
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468
    Leon said:

    Dubai welcoming Russian money and saying Fuck the West

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/26/dubai-throws-open-the-doors-for-the-rich-russians-escaping-sanctions?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    Really?

    I’ve been crunching the numbers. The combined GDP of the West is about $45-50 Trillion.

    TRILLION. The entire global economy is $80 trillion

    And by the West I mean USA, EU, UK, Japan, Canada, South Korea, Switzerland etc.

    I’ve left out big economies which might be deemed neutral: India, Brazil, Mexico, Indonesia, Vietnam - who knows which they would ultimately swing.

    The West is, still, overwhelmingly powerful and, still, technologically far more advanced. We need to man up and beat the living shit out of parasitical little blobs like the UAE. And Ireland

    What would be wonderful would be to develop technologies that enable us to escape from all extraction economies, whether for energy or for materials.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    Leon said:

    Dubai welcoming Russian money and saying Fuck the West

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/26/dubai-throws-open-the-doors-for-the-rich-russians-escaping-sanctions?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    Really?

    I’ve been crunching the numbers. The combined GDP of the West is about $45-50 Trillion.

    TRILLION. The entire global economy is $80 trillion

    And by the West I mean USA, EU, UK, Japan, Canada, South Korea, Switzerland etc.

    I’ve left out big economies which might be deemed neutral: India, Brazil, Mexico, Indonesia, Vietnam - who knows which they would ultimately swing.

    The West is, still, overwhelmingly powerful and, still, technologically far more advanced. We need to man up and beat the living shit out of parasitical little blobs like the UAE. And Ireland

    Dubai is the go to place for dirty money. There was an article in El Pais about how all the top criminals have left the Costa del Crime for Dubai, leaving the thugs under their command to organise day to day drug, arms, etc trades.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,419

    Leon said:

    Dubai welcoming Russian money and saying Fuck the West

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/26/dubai-throws-open-the-doors-for-the-rich-russians-escaping-sanctions?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    Really?

    I’ve been crunching the numbers. The combined GDP of the West is about $45-50 Trillion.

    TRILLION. The entire global economy is $80 trillion

    And by the West I mean USA, EU, UK, Japan, Canada, South Korea, Switzerland etc.

    I’ve left out big economies which might be deemed neutral: India, Brazil, Mexico, Indonesia, Vietnam - who knows which they would ultimately swing.

    The West is, still, overwhelmingly powerful and, still, technologically far more advanced. We need to man up and beat the living shit out of parasitical little blobs like the UAE. And Ireland

    Dubai is the go to place for dirty money. There was an article in El Pais about how all the top criminals have left the Costa del Crime for Dubai, leaving the thugs under their command to organise day to day drug, arms, etc trades.
    The Mugabes throw the best parties apparently.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486
    Leon said:

    Jonathan said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sitting outside. First time this year.

    In shorts and a short sleeved shirt.

    Too nice an evening to waste.

    Jealous, in the nicest possible way. It’s a shitty weekend to be tucked up with CV19, but it could be worse.
    I’m also down with the fucking lurgy, caught from my friends. AGAIN. Sympathies
    You are living proof that it’s not masks that prevent covid - it’s sleeves. We’ve been covering up the wrong parts.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    edited March 2022
    geoffw said:

    FYI, everybody should update their browsers ASAP. The naughty cyber criminals in North Korea have heen using a zero day exploit for Chromium based browsers, which has now been found out. Google have issued an emergency stand alone update, which they virtually never do. Only a matter of time before wider network of hackers and scammer use the exploit.

    Is it just Chrome or are Safari, Firefox etc also affected?

    The exploit has been identified specifically in Chromium, but they aren't saying what it is publicly, so it could be that a similar weakness might exist elsewhere (hence worth checking if an update for the others).
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,821
    Nigelb said:

    Thanks for the Perez tip, MD. :smile:

    Yet another F1 race held in a non-democracy? Tsk!
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,787
    Mr. 86, middling-long (15). Nice bet to come off, though.

    Mr. B, np. Bit flukey. But I'll take it.

    If it needed to be done, how would one update a browser? Pretty sure Firefox updated itself this morning.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    My most interesting factoid of the day:


    The inventor and manufacturer of the Turkish drone - Bayraktar - that has proved so devastating to RU forces in Ukr is Erdogan's son in law.

    (from article in Spectator).
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    edited March 2022

    My most interesting factoid of the day:


    The inventor and manufacturer of the Turkish drone - Bayraktar - that has proved so devastating to RU forces in Ukr is Erdogan's son in law.

    (from article in Spectator).

    I thought that was well known? Clever chappie, graduate from MIT. Convinced father in law there was an good opportunity for Turkey to get into the military drone business.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,787
    As an aside, I also have a bet on Perez at 16 to win the race. Reasonably sure I mentioned this before practice started.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Jonathan said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sitting outside. First time this year.

    In shorts and a short sleeved shirt.

    Too nice an evening to waste.

    Jealous, in the nicest possible way. It’s a shitty weekend to be tucked up with CV19, but it could be worse.
    I’m also down with the fucking lurgy, caught from my friends. AGAIN. Sympathies
    You are living proof that it’s not masks that prevent covid - it’s sleeves. We’ve been covering up the wrong parts.
    This is the third time I’ve had Covid, or something like it (and not like a normal cold) in four months

    It’s quite boring. They are also getting progressively milder - if indeed they are Covid

    Could just be all the bugs I’ve avoided for 2 years catching up with me. I am now socializing as I did pre-pandemic and I very seldom wear masks
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,747
    Biden calling for regime change in Russia. Hmmmm…
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492
    IshmaelZ said:

    Nigelb said:

    The Omicron wave in South Korea, a model country for managing its pandemic, has led to the highest current per capita death rate of any country in the world
    https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1507758525447294977

    Not an interesting test, because I'm not aware of other countries having bodies piled in the street. Impossible to contextualise

    Also worldometers doesn't seem to know about the existence of either Korea. Not helping.
    errr? wouldometer does know about Korea, here is the link to the South Korea Covid page:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486
    Leon said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Jonathan said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sitting outside. First time this year.

    In shorts and a short sleeved shirt.

    Too nice an evening to waste.

    Jealous, in the nicest possible way. It’s a shitty weekend to be tucked up with CV19, but it could be worse.
    I’m also down with the fucking lurgy, caught from my friends. AGAIN. Sympathies
    You are living proof that it’s not masks that prevent covid - it’s sleeves. We’ve been covering up the wrong parts.
    This is the third time I’ve had Covid, or something like it (and not like a normal cold) in four months

    It’s quite boring. They are also getting progressively milder - if indeed they are Covid

    Could just be all the bugs I’ve avoided for 2 years catching up with me. I am now socializing as I did pre-pandemic and I very seldom wear masks
    I keep catching covid weekly. Always after socials dancing and drinking loads of Nytimber. Headache, dry mouth, aching body.

    Either Covid isn’t really understood or it’s spread by English champagne 😆.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Jonathan said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sitting outside. First time this year.

    In shorts and a short sleeved shirt.

    Too nice an evening to waste.

    Jealous, in the nicest possible way. It’s a shitty weekend to be tucked up with CV19, but it could be worse.
    I’m also down with the fucking lurgy, caught from my friends. AGAIN. Sympathies
    You are living proof that it’s not masks that prevent covid - it’s sleeves. We’ve been covering up the wrong parts.
    This is the third time I’ve had Covid, or something like it (and not like a normal cold) in four months

    It’s quite boring. They are also getting progressively milder - if indeed they are Covid

    Could just be all the bugs I’ve avoided for 2 years catching up with me. I am now socializing as I did pre-pandemic and I very seldom wear masks
    I keep catching covid weekly. Always after socials dancing and drinking loads of Nytimber. Headache, dry mouth, aching body.

    Either Covid isn’t really understood or it’s spread by English champagne 😆.
    ‘Alcohol poisoning by high end English fizz’ has occurred to me as a potential alternative diagnosis… but a lot of excellent wine has never made me sleep for 18 hours straight, 2 days later
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,246

    Nigelb said:

    Thanks for the Perez tip, MD. :smile:

    Yet another F1 race held in a non-democracy? Tsk!
    Almost as bad as a one-party kleptocracy like Northamptonshire.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486
    Leon said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Jonathan said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sitting outside. First time this year.

    In shorts and a short sleeved shirt.

    Too nice an evening to waste.

    Jealous, in the nicest possible way. It’s a shitty weekend to be tucked up with CV19, but it could be worse.
    I’m also down with the fucking lurgy, caught from my friends. AGAIN. Sympathies
    You are living proof that it’s not masks that prevent covid - it’s sleeves. We’ve been covering up the wrong parts.
    This is the third time I’ve had Covid, or something like it (and not like a normal cold) in four months

    It’s quite boring. They are also getting progressively milder - if indeed they are Covid

    Could just be all the bugs I’ve avoided for 2 years catching up with me. I am now socializing as I did pre-pandemic and I very seldom wear masks
    I keep catching covid weekly. Always after socials dancing and drinking loads of Nytimber. Headache, dry mouth, aching body.

    Either Covid isn’t really understood or it’s spread by English champagne 😆.
    ‘Alcohol poisoning by high end English fizz’ has occurred to me as a potential alternative diagnosis… but a lot of excellent wine has never made me sleep for 18 hours straight, 2 days later
    Sounds like someone was slipping you Roofies….!
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714

    My most interesting factoid of the day:


    The inventor and manufacturer of the Turkish drone - Bayraktar - that has proved so devastating to RU forces in Ukr is Erdogan's son in law.

    (from article in Spectator).

    I thought that was well known? Clever chappie, graduate from MIT. Convinced father in law there was an good opportunity for Turkey to get into the military drone business.
    Maybe it is well known. I didn't know it.
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,747
    Farooq said:

    moonshine said:

    Biden calling for regime change in Russia. Hmmmm…

    Good to see such an old guy thinking strategically, isn't it? It IS what's needed, for everyone's sake. Apart from Putin's.
    What is gained by saying that out loud?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,148
    edited March 2022
    .

    i canceled my Sky Sports sub 5 years ago as sick of the football . I do all my sport watching now on youtube as I like minority sports and although rarely live in youtube because they are minority sports (modern pentathlon, triathlon ,orienteering, university level athletics etc ) you cna watch as live as you dont know the result.

    Being sick of football is a very honourable position to take :smiley:
  • Gary_BurtonGary_Burton Posts: 737
    Another detailed lucidtalk poll out on Monday. Will be fascinating to see what it shows particularly for the DUP.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375

    Nigelb said:

    Thanks for the Perez tip, MD. :smile:

    Yet another F1 race held in a non-democracy? Tsk!
    Almost as bad as a one-party kleptocracy like Northamptonshire.
    We've already had regime change there. It no longer exists. It's now the People's Sovereign Decision of West Northamptonshire.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,246
    MattW said:

    Having trouble with words this afternoon.

    I keep thinking that that landing ship Orsk is a womble.

    i canceled my Sky Sports sub 5 years ago as sick of the football . I do all my sport watching now on youtube as I like minority sports and although rarely live in youtube because they are minority sports (modern pentathlon, triathlon ,orienteering, university level athletics etc ) you cna watch as live as you dont know the result.

    Being sick of football is a very honourable position to take :smiley:
    It does sometimes throw up an occasional interesting event. Who would have expected moribund, bottom-of-the-table Dover to visit promotion-chasing Wrexham and score 5 goals?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,401
    edited March 2022

    MattW said:

    Having trouble with words this afternoon.

    I keep thinking that that landing ship Orsk is a womble.

    i canceled my Sky Sports sub 5 years ago as sick of the football . I do all my sport watching now on youtube as I like minority sports and although rarely live in youtube because they are minority sports (modern pentathlon, triathlon ,orienteering, university level athletics etc ) you cna watch as live as you dont know the result.

    Being sick of football is a very honourable position to take :smiley:
    It does sometimes throw up an occasional interesting event. Who would have expected moribund, bottom-of-the-table Dover to visit promotion-chasing Wrexham and score 5 goals?
    And still contrive to lose.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    Janan Ganesh:


  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,246
    dixiedean said:

    MattW said:

    Having trouble with words this afternoon.

    I keep thinking that that landing ship Orsk is a womble.

    i canceled my Sky Sports sub 5 years ago as sick of the football . I do all my sport watching now on youtube as I like minority sports and although rarely live in youtube because they are minority sports (modern pentathlon, triathlon ,orienteering, university level athletics etc ) you cna watch as live as you dont know the result.

    Being sick of football is a very honourable position to take :smiley:
    It does sometimes throw up an occasional interesting event. Who would have expected moribund, bottom-of-the-table Dover to visit promotion-chasing Wrexham and score 5 goals?
    And still contrive to lose.
    Boo ... spoiler alert!

  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,874

    Janan Ganesh:


    There's no original thinking in that, I'm afraid. The hyper sensitivity of western nations to threats of interruption in oil supplies have always been apparent - look at Saddam's invasion of Kuwait in 1990 and how that spiked oil prices as have periodic Iranian attempts to block the Straits of Hormuz.

    Back home, remember the "fuel crisis" of 2000 and that brief nanosecond when the sceptre of Prime Minister William Hague crossed the horizon?

    If anything, our reliance on resources (both oil and rare metals) has grown with the evolution of technology. it drives Chinese foreign and economic policy.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,011
    moonshine said:

    Farooq said:

    moonshine said:

    Biden calling for regime change in Russia. Hmmmm…

    Good to see such an old guy thinking strategically, isn't it? It IS what's needed, for everyone's sake. Apart from Putin's.
    What is gained by saying that out loud?
    Votes?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,148
    edited March 2022

    MattW said:

    Having trouble with words this afternoon.

    I keep thinking that that landing ship Orsk is a womble.

    i canceled my Sky Sports sub 5 years ago as sick of the football . I do all my sport watching now on youtube as I like minority sports and although rarely live in youtube because they are minority sports (modern pentathlon, triathlon ,orienteering, university level athletics etc ) you cna watch as live as you dont know the result.

    Being sick of football is a very honourable position to take :smiley:
    It does sometimes throw up an occasional interesting event. Who would have expected moribund, bottom-of-the-table Dover to visit promotion-chasing Wrexham and score 5 goals?
    That's me told.

    Must remember.

    Dover visiting Wrexham is an interesting event.
    Dover visiting Wrexham is an interesting event.
    Dover visiting Wrexham is an interesting event.
    Dover visiting Wrexham is an interesting event.
    Dover visiting Wrexham is an interesting event.
    Dover visiting Wrexham is an interesting event.
    Nope. Can't make it stick.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,638
    Andy_JS said:

    Someone on Talk Elections found this little gem.

    "I am the very model of a Russian Major General
    My standing in the battlefield is growing quite untenable
    My forces, though equipped and given orders unequivocal
    Did not expect the fight to be remotely this reciprocal

    I used to have a tank brigade but now I have lost several
    My fresh assaults are faltering with battleplans extemporal
    I can't recover vehicles but farmers in a tractor can
    It's all becoming rather reminiscent of Afghanistan

    My ordnance is the best but only half my missiles make it there
    I would have thought by now that we would be controllers of the air
    But at the rate the snipers work my time here is ephemeral
    I am the very model of a Russian Major General"

    Who'd be a Russian General?

    Interesting tales of two Russian Generals. 1 suicide, and one sacked.

    The commander of the 13th Guards Tank Regiment (4th Guards Tank Division) reportedly committed suicide according to Ukrainian sources. Possibly somewhere in the Sumy area.

    went to pull tanks out of storage to put on the battlefield but the electronics have been stolen to sell the precious metals and the rest have engines removed etc. 10% appears to only be functioning and they have no idea how long it will take to be functional. 1/2

    https://twitter.com/HN_Schlottman/status/1507704547191500802?t=4O1NLCv2nb2Zv5eGqGUoPg&s=19

    The #Kremlin dismissed the next #Russian Army General for a failure to occupy #Ukraine. A commander of the 1st Tank Army of the western military region, Gen. Sergei Kisel lost his post. The 1st tank army stormed the city of #Kharkiv but suffered unrepairable losses. #war https://t.co/lZ9nW0Q6Ms

    https://twitter.com/MrKovalenko/status/1507639152761790465?t=j-0nYmnckfC3RN-8naGgrQ&s=19
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,638
    dixiedean said:

    MattW said:

    Having trouble with words this afternoon.

    I keep thinking that that landing ship Orsk is a womble.

    i canceled my Sky Sports sub 5 years ago as sick of the football . I do all my sport watching now on youtube as I like minority sports and although rarely live in youtube because they are minority sports (modern pentathlon, triathlon ,orienteering, university level athletics etc ) you cna watch as live as you dont know the result.

    Being sick of football is a very honourable position to take :smiley:
    It does sometimes throw up an occasional interesting event. Who would have expected moribund, bottom-of-the-table Dover to visit promotion-chasing Wrexham and score 5 goals?
    And still contrive to lose.
    The Dover defence might be the explanation!
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    stodge said:

    Janan Ganesh:


    There's no original thinking in that, I'm afraid. The hyper sensitivity of western nations to threats of interruption in oil supplies have always been apparent - look at Saddam's invasion of Kuwait in 1990 and how that spiked oil prices as have periodic Iranian attempts to block the Straits of Hormuz.

    Back home, remember the "fuel crisis" of 2000 and that brief nanosecond when the sceptre of Prime Minister William Hague crossed the horizon?

    If anything, our reliance on resources (both oil and rare metals) has grown with the evolution of technology. it drives Chinese foreign and economic policy.
    2000 is 22 years ago. A chunk of voters have come of age since. It's like inflation. The young don't have the memories.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    edited March 2022
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Having trouble with words this afternoon.

    I keep thinking that that landing ship Orsk is a womble.

    i canceled my Sky Sports sub 5 years ago as sick of the football . I do all my sport watching now on youtube as I like minority sports and although rarely live in youtube because they are minority sports (modern pentathlon, triathlon ,orienteering, university level athletics etc ) you cna watch as live as you dont know the result.

    Being sick of football is a very honourable position to take :smiley:
    It does sometimes throw up an occasional interesting event. Who would have expected moribund, bottom-of-the-table Dover to visit promotion-chasing Wrexham and score 5 goals?
    That's me told.

    Must remember.

    Dover visiting Wrexham is an interesting event.
    Dover visiting Wrexham is an interesting event.
    Dover visiting Wrexham is an interesting event.
    Dover visiting Wrexham is an interesting event.
    Dover visiting Wrexham is an interesting event.
    Dover visiting Wrexham is an interesting event.
    Nope. Can't make it stick.
    Loving the format fu, but that also works as

    Football is interesting..
    Football is interesting.
    Football is interesting
    Nope. Can't make it stick.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    I’m doing a job application, and I was amused by the fact that whoever built the list for ethnic group failed to notice that a return carriage had created two rows.

    I guess Irish/British could be valid, but some applicants might think that “White - English/Welsh/Scottish/Northern” is taking the piss.


  • Gary_BurtonGary_Burton Posts: 737
    Still a 2% Labour lead with opinium.

    Tiny improvement in Johnson's ratings.
  • No signs of negative effect for conservatives in tonight's Opinium

    https://twitter.com/OpiniumResearch/status/1507809615295102978?t=ij0YSSvF-s4EppLA4Xcqcg&s=19
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,215
    Today is Saturday, We've Analytical Scores:

    Westminster voting intention:

    LAB: 38% (+1)
    CON: 36% (+1)
    LDEM: 9% (-)
    GRN: 7% (-)

    https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1507810064115064839?t=1VofGhAhOSgn6of5eIe8og&s=19

    via OpiniumResearch, 23 - 25 Mar
    Chgs. w/ 11 Feb


    Last best chance for a Conservative lead this month? And if not this month, when?
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492
    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Someone on Talk Elections found this little gem.

    "I am the very model of a Russian Major General
    My standing in the battlefield is growing quite untenable
    My forces, though equipped and given orders unequivocal
    Did not expect the fight to be remotely this reciprocal

    I used to have a tank brigade but now I have lost several
    My fresh assaults are faltering with battleplans extemporal
    I can't recover vehicles but farmers in a tractor can
    It's all becoming rather reminiscent of Afghanistan

    My ordnance is the best but only half my missiles make it there
    I would have thought by now that we would be controllers of the air
    But at the rate the snipers work my time here is ephemeral
    I am the very model of a Russian Major General"

    Who'd be a Russian General?

    Interesting tales of two Russian Generals. 1 suicide, and one sacked.

    The commander of the 13th Guards Tank Regiment (4th Guards Tank Division) reportedly committed suicide according to Ukrainian sources. Possibly somewhere in the Sumy area.

    went to pull tanks out of storage to put on the battlefield but the electronics have been stolen to sell the precious metals and the rest have engines removed etc. 10% appears to only be functioning and they have no idea how long it will take to be functional. 1/2

    https://twitter.com/HN_Schlottman/status/1507704547191500802?t=4O1NLCv2nb2Zv5eGqGUoPg&s=19

    The #Kremlin dismissed the next #Russian Army General for a failure to occupy #Ukraine. A commander of the 1st Tank Army of the western military region, Gen. Sergei Kisel lost his post. The 1st tank army stormed the city of #Kharkiv but suffered unrepairable losses. #war https://t.co/lZ9nW0Q6Ms

    https://twitter.com/MrKovalenko/status/1507639152761790465?t=j-0nYmnckfC3RN-8naGgrQ&s=19
    suicide? maybe, or maybe his men had had enough? don't know so should not cast assertions, but on looking up the 13th Guards tank army to find the name of its commander, I could not find it, but noted that the 4th Guards Tank Division is led by a Colonel Yevgeny Nikolayevich Zhuravlyov (June 2021 – present), so presumably the Regimental commanders working for him as also Colonels at most.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083

    tlg86 said:

    ydoethur said:

    tlg86 said:

    ydoethur said:

    TSE and Tlg86 - I feel your pain.

    I'm not his biggest fan but it's ridiculous he's back there.

    Between the cavitation and the wretched circuit he had a lot deal with but he's still going to be pretty unhappy.

    Let’s get something straight. As a kid I was a Damon Hill fan and then a McLaren fan as they’re my hometown team. I stopped supporting them when they treated some staff almost as disgracefully as P&O Ferries.

    Above all I’m an F1/motorsports fan. I have a lot of respect for Lewis, though I think his fashion sense is terrible.

    What happened in Abu Dhabi was a disgrace. You clearly have an issue with Hamilton. I know you’re intelligent, but for some strange reason you’re dislike of Hamilton means you can’t see what is obvious.
    Frankly, I just thought it was mildly amusing that somebody whose behaviour showed he clearly felt the title was his as by right didn't get it. I also felt, bluntly, that the cheating wasn't all on Verstappen's side even though his examples were undoubtedly more egregious. I also don't like Mercedes. I think they're a nasty company full of nasty people and to watch them getting so wound up and still losing was quite funny. Finally, it's entertaining to watch Hamilton fans - and notwithstanding your protestations I do count you as one - tie themselves in knots over what happened.

    If there is any driver I admire in F1, it would be Ocon, although honourable ment ion to Vettel (who must be feeling really silly at the moment that he didn't manage to stay with Ferrari) for his protest in Saudi last time* and to Leclerc, who already looks very strong.

    I will take the compliment about my intelligence though. Flattery will get you anywhere :smile:

    *not forgetting Hamilton, to his credit, supported him.
    What do you mean “tie themselves in knots?”

    Your first paragraph pretty much confirms that you think it was okay because it meant you got what you wanted.
    Well obviously I can't speak for ydoethur but that is certainly my position. I am delighted the arrogant prick didn't win. I think he and his team cheat just as much as any other and expect to get away with it whilst whining to make sure others are pulled up.
    I dislike Hamilton, not least for his hectoring other drivers and disingenuously claiming not to be and for the hagiographic BBC coverage of him in the last few years, but simple position is rules were not followed and he, the rightful winner, was denied as a result and thats wrong.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    tlg86 said:

    I’m doing a job application, and I was amused by the fact that whoever built the list for ethnic group failed to notice that a return carriage had created two rows.

    I guess Irish/British could be valid, but some applicants might think that “White - English/Welsh/Scottish/Northern” is taking the piss.


    I just find it horrific that those questions are asked. 100 years hence that'll be in history books as evidence of the hardline racism of now.

    At least, I think that's right. Then again, it seems that agreeing with MLK that it shouldn't matter what colour you are marks you out as a hard right gammon fascist these days, so what do I know?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    BigRich said:

    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Someone on Talk Elections found this little gem.

    "I am the very model of a Russian Major General
    My standing in the battlefield is growing quite untenable
    My forces, though equipped and given orders unequivocal
    Did not expect the fight to be remotely this reciprocal

    I used to have a tank brigade but now I have lost several
    My fresh assaults are faltering with battleplans extemporal
    I can't recover vehicles but farmers in a tractor can
    It's all becoming rather reminiscent of Afghanistan

    My ordnance is the best but only half my missiles make it there
    I would have thought by now that we would be controllers of the air
    But at the rate the snipers work my time here is ephemeral
    I am the very model of a Russian Major General"

    Who'd be a Russian General?

    Interesting tales of two Russian Generals. 1 suicide, and one sacked.

    The commander of the 13th Guards Tank Regiment (4th Guards Tank Division) reportedly committed suicide according to Ukrainian sources. Possibly somewhere in the Sumy area.

    went to pull tanks out of storage to put on the battlefield but the electronics have been stolen to sell the precious metals and the rest have engines removed etc. 10% appears to only be functioning and they have no idea how long it will take to be functional. 1/2

    https://twitter.com/HN_Schlottman/status/1507704547191500802?t=4O1NLCv2nb2Zv5eGqGUoPg&s=19

    The #Kremlin dismissed the next #Russian Army General for a failure to occupy #Ukraine. A commander of the 1st Tank Army of the western military region, Gen. Sergei Kisel lost his post. The 1st tank army stormed the city of #Kharkiv but suffered unrepairable losses. #war https://t.co/lZ9nW0Q6Ms

    https://twitter.com/MrKovalenko/status/1507639152761790465?t=j-0nYmnckfC3RN-8naGgrQ&s=19
    suicide? maybe, or maybe his men had had enough? don't know so should not cast assertions, but on looking up the 13th Guards tank army to find the name of its commander, I could not find it, but noted that the 4th Guards Tank Division is led by a Colonel Yevgeny Nikolayevich Zhuravlyov (June 2021 – present), so presumably the Regimental commanders working for him as also Colonels at most.
    Being dismissed by Putin's gremlins in the middle of this shitstorm must be like winning the fecking lottery.

    "See you comrades, I am off home to spend time with my wife and kids. Shame about the sacking, but we will get by."

  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,874
    I didn't think Putin would be as incalculably stupid as to invade Ukraine. The risks seemed far higher than any reward when it was plain Zelenskyy would fight and it wouldn't be Czechoslovakia 1968 but more like Hungary 1956.

    I've seen it argued events in Afghanistan persuaded Putin the west would fold quicker than the average deckchair and accept the fait accompli of a Russian takeover. Wrong again.

    The fundamentals of NATO have always been there - the Yugoslav experience was humbling in some ways - and the broadly collective stance has re-invigorated an alliance many were ready to write off with the coming of Trump.

    Did the Europeans get Putin wrong? Well, yes, but they weren't the only ones and whether you argue Putin was only fed the advice his advisors thought he wanted to hear is now irrelevant. As I've argued here, if you want to sup with the Devil, ensure you have a suitably long spoon - perhaps in the need to secure vitally needed economic and energy resources, some in Europe cut the length of the spoon too short.

    One thing from which I have drawn some comfort - Putin, like most dictators, likes the finer things of life to which the overwhelming majority of his people can never even aspire. The well-made clothes, the fine food, the opulent lifestyle, the trappings of wealth - all would be lost forever once the first nuclear missile is fired. It's the authoritarians of simple tastes who are to be feared - fortunately most like the best capitalism has to offer and the preservation of that lifestyle is paramount.

    How does this end? I said at the beginning there was a huge opportunity for President Xi to emerge as a serious world player - broker a peace and while you won't be everyone's friend, everyone will remember when they wake up alive in the morning and the guns are silent. He of course doesn't have the skill or the nous to take it - perhaps someone else will.

    I'm quite certain the current conflict is providing huge food for thought for defence and military analysts and strategists - are we seeing a new kind of "war" for the 21st century? As for the politics, no one benefits from having a disgruntled and vengeful Russia and even with the music and the clothes, do we really want the Cold War back?

    There are times when countries and peoples have to ask themselves some hard questions and it's often after a national trauma these questions come to the forefront - the French, Germans and others in Europe have had to reconcile themselves to the roles of conqueror, conquered and collaborator but the winners too are changed by the experience. Arguably, Britain has struggled with its identity and purpose in the world since 1945 - perhaps Russia is now recognising its days as a world superpower are over and it needs to find a new purpose.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,576
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375
    IshmaelZ said:

    tlg86 said:

    I’m doing a job application, and I was amused by the fact that whoever built the list for ethnic group failed to notice that a return carriage had created two rows.

    I guess Irish/British could be valid, but some applicants might think that “White - English/Welsh/Scottish/Northern” is taking the piss.


    I just find it horrific that those questions are asked. 100 years hence that'll be in history books as evidence of the hardline racism of now.

    At least, I think that's right. Then again, it seems that agreeing with MLK that it shouldn't matter what colour you are marks you out as a hard right gammon fascist these days, so what do I know?
    As a pink pig (according to your avatar) you are a unique ethnic/racial profile as well as a gammon, so I wouldn't worry.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    No idea what all this means, but I suspect it is not good for Mad Vlad:



    Visegrád 24
    @visegrad24
    ·
    14m
    BREAKING:

    Russia has stated that the Army of Azerbaijan has entered the zone in Armenia held by 2000 Russian “peacekeeping soldiers” in accordance with the Nagorno-Karabakh Ceasefire Agreement from November 2020.

    Russia says it’s now moving troops to their initial positions.


    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1507809504540377100
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375
    They're leaking tanks.

    I thank you.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,638
    IshmaelZ said:

    tlg86 said:

    I’m doing a job application, and I was amused by the fact that whoever built the list for ethnic group failed to notice that a return carriage had created two rows.

    I guess Irish/British could be valid, but some applicants might think that “White - English/Welsh/Scottish/Northern” is taking the piss.


    I just find it horrific that those questions are asked. 100 years hence that'll be in history books as evidence of the hardline racism of now.

    At least, I think that's right. Then again, it seems that agreeing with MLK that it shouldn't matter what colour you are marks you out as a hard right gammon fascist these days, so what do I know?
    It is a government requirement that this data is recorded.

    In France it is policy not to keep such data, but that doesn't seem to have sorted racial equality.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/16/france-and-germany-urged-to-rethink-reluctance-to-gather-ethnicity-data
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    IshmaelZ said:

    tlg86 said:

    I’m doing a job application, and I was amused by the fact that whoever built the list for ethnic group failed to notice that a return carriage had created two rows.

    I guess Irish/British could be valid, but some applicants might think that “White - English/Welsh/Scottish/Northern” is taking the piss.


    I just find it horrific that those questions are asked. 100 years hence that'll be in history books as evidence of the hardline racism of now.

    At least, I think that's right. Then again, it seems that agreeing with MLK that it shouldn't matter what colour you are marks you out as a hard right gammon fascist these days, so what do I know?
    The assumption is people quoting him deny it was an aspiration, but think it has been achieved, in order to not do anything further, but I don't buy that. For some, definitely, but they have their extremist counters who do seem to think it should not even be an aspiration.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,826
    moonshine said:

    Biden calling for regime change in Russia. Hmmmm…

    That's a risky strategy. Apparently not in the original speech.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,561

    BigRich said:

    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Someone on Talk Elections found this little gem.

    "I am the very model of a Russian Major General
    My standing in the battlefield is growing quite untenable
    My forces, though equipped and given orders unequivocal
    Did not expect the fight to be remotely this reciprocal

    I used to have a tank brigade but now I have lost several
    My fresh assaults are faltering with battleplans extemporal
    I can't recover vehicles but farmers in a tractor can
    It's all becoming rather reminiscent of Afghanistan

    My ordnance is the best but only half my missiles make it there
    I would have thought by now that we would be controllers of the air
    But at the rate the snipers work my time here is ephemeral
    I am the very model of a Russian Major General"

    Who'd be a Russian General?

    Interesting tales of two Russian Generals. 1 suicide, and one sacked.

    The commander of the 13th Guards Tank Regiment (4th Guards Tank Division) reportedly committed suicide according to Ukrainian sources. Possibly somewhere in the Sumy area.

    went to pull tanks out of storage to put on the battlefield but the electronics have been stolen to sell the precious metals and the rest have engines removed etc. 10% appears to only be functioning and they have no idea how long it will take to be functional. 1/2

    https://twitter.com/HN_Schlottman/status/1507704547191500802?t=4O1NLCv2nb2Zv5eGqGUoPg&s=19

    The #Kremlin dismissed the next #Russian Army General for a failure to occupy #Ukraine. A commander of the 1st Tank Army of the western military region, Gen. Sergei Kisel lost his post. The 1st tank army stormed the city of #Kharkiv but suffered unrepairable losses. #war https://t.co/lZ9nW0Q6Ms

    https://twitter.com/MrKovalenko/status/1507639152761790465?t=j-0nYmnckfC3RN-8naGgrQ&s=19
    suicide? maybe, or maybe his men had had enough? don't know so should not cast assertions, but on looking up the 13th Guards tank army to find the name of its commander, I could not find it, but noted that the 4th Guards Tank Division is led by a Colonel Yevgeny Nikolayevich Zhuravlyov (June 2021 – present), so presumably the Regimental commanders working for him as also Colonels at most.
    Being dismissed by Putin's gremlins in the middle of this shitstorm must be like winning the fecking lottery.

    "See you comrades, I am off home to spend time with my wife and kids. Shame about the sacking, but we will get by."

    "Just - make sure to wear gloves when grasping door-handles, comrade...."
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    Oh dear, never mind.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,576
    ydoethur said:

    They're leaking tanks.

    I thank you.
    What a deserting Russian soldier says: "Tanks for the memory".
    What the Ukrainian farmers' say; "Tanks alot!"
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083

    No idea what all this means, but I suspect it is not good for Mad Vlad:



    Visegrád 24
    @visegrad24
    ·
    14m
    BREAKING:

    Russia has stated that the Army of Azerbaijan has entered the zone in Armenia held by 2000 Russian “peacekeeping soldiers” in accordance with the Nagorno-Karabakh Ceasefire Agreement from November 2020.

    Russia says it’s now moving troops to their initial positions.


    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1507809504540377100

    Hey, if Azerbaijan perceives a threat that is justified despite agreements, right Russia?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,419
    edited March 2022

    moonshine said:

    Biden calling for regime change in Russia. Hmmmm…

    That's a risky strategy. Apparently not in the original speech.
    Really? Jeez.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    edited March 2022
    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    MattW said:

    Having trouble with words this afternoon.

    I keep thinking that that landing ship Orsk is a womble.

    i canceled my Sky Sports sub 5 years ago as sick of the football . I do all my sport watching now on youtube as I like minority sports and although rarely live in youtube because they are minority sports (modern pentathlon, triathlon ,orienteering, university level athletics etc ) you cna watch as live as you dont know the result.

    Being sick of football is a very honourable position to take :smiley:
    It does sometimes throw up an occasional interesting event. Who would have expected moribund, bottom-of-the-table Dover to visit promotion-chasing Wrexham and score 5 goals?
    And still contrive to lose.
    The Dover defence might be the explanation!
    The Admiralty Turret on the eponymous pier. Two 16" guns. Victorian; forgotten till in relatively recent decades a chap had a look under the wooden floor ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiralty_Pier_Turret
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,590
    kle4 said:

    No idea what all this means, but I suspect it is not good for Mad Vlad:



    Visegrád 24
    @visegrad24
    ·
    14m
    BREAKING:

    Russia has stated that the Army of Azerbaijan has entered the zone in Armenia held by 2000 Russian “peacekeeping soldiers” in accordance with the Nagorno-Karabakh Ceasefire Agreement from November 2020.

    Russia says it’s now moving troops to their initial positions.


    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1507809504540377100

    Hey, if Azerbaijan perceives a threat that is justified despite agreements, right Russia?
    I have read the thread and the explainer and I am still unclear what the heck any of that means.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,717
     
    mwadams said:

    kle4 said:

    No idea what all this means, but I suspect it is not good for Mad Vlad:



    Visegrád 24
    @visegrad24
    ·
    14m
    BREAKING:

    Russia has stated that the Army of Azerbaijan has entered the zone in Armenia held by 2000 Russian “peacekeeping soldiers” in accordance with the Nagorno-Karabakh Ceasefire Agreement from November 2020.

    Russia says it’s now moving troops to their initial positions.


    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1507809504540377100

    Hey, if Azerbaijan perceives a threat that is justified despite agreements, right Russia?
    I have read the thread and the explainer and I am still unclear what the heck any of that means.
    AIUI the Russians are there as peacekeepers. The Azeris seem to relish another bash at the Armenians.

  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,786
    ydoethur said:

    Omnium said:

    Farooq said:

    Supermarket. Everybody wearing masks apart from two 30-ish year old men, so ~98% wearing.

    I've started not to wear a mask. I guess you'd like me to? In which case I will.
    One of the strange things about living in one place and spending lots of time in another is you notice the wide variation in the two.

    Walk into a supermarket in Stroud not wearing a mask and they look at you like you've dropped out of a dog's arse.

    Walk into a supermarket round here wearing one and they're on the phone saying a lunatic's escaped.
    Asked my wife about Sainsbury's, Cobham (I don't know as, and I know this will come as a surprise to all of you, but I have broken legs 😁 so haven't been in a shop for awhile). She reckoned only 2 wearing masks. And we aren't far away from Nick in Godalming.

    Was Nick in Sainsbury's or Waitrose? Could be Sainsbury's customers have a devil may care attitude.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,821

    Today is Saturday, We've Analytical Scores:

    Westminster voting intention:

    LAB: 38% (+1)
    CON: 36% (+1)
    LDEM: 9% (-)
    GRN: 7% (-)

    https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1507810064115064839?t=1VofGhAhOSgn6of5eIe8og&s=19

    via OpiniumResearch, 23 - 25 Mar
    Chgs. w/ 11 Feb


    Last best chance for a Conservative lead this month? And if not this month, when?

    Three months and 20 days since the last Tory poll lead.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,638
    kjh said:

    ydoethur said:

    Omnium said:

    Farooq said:

    Supermarket. Everybody wearing masks apart from two 30-ish year old men, so ~98% wearing.

    I've started not to wear a mask. I guess you'd like me to? In which case I will.
    One of the strange things about living in one place and spending lots of time in another is you notice the wide variation in the two.

    Walk into a supermarket in Stroud not wearing a mask and they look at you like you've dropped out of a dog's arse.

    Walk into a supermarket round here wearing one and they're on the phone saying a lunatic's escaped.
    Asked my wife about Sainsbury's, Cobham (I don't know as, and I know this will come as a surprise to all of you, but I have broken legs 😁 so haven't been in a shop for awhile). She reckoned only 2 wearing masks. And we aren't far away from Nick in Godalming.

    Was Nick in Sainsbury's or Waitrose? Could be Sainsbury's customers have a devil may care attitude.
    In Morrisons Leicester about 10% in masks. Petrol 2p cheaper than last week.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,821
    geoffw said:

     

    mwadams said:

    kle4 said:

    No idea what all this means, but I suspect it is not good for Mad Vlad:



    Visegrád 24
    @visegrad24
    ·
    14m
    BREAKING:

    Russia has stated that the Army of Azerbaijan has entered the zone in Armenia held by 2000 Russian “peacekeeping soldiers” in accordance with the Nagorno-Karabakh Ceasefire Agreement from November 2020.

    Russia says it’s now moving troops to their initial positions.


    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1507809504540377100

    Hey, if Azerbaijan perceives a threat that is justified despite agreements, right Russia?
    I have read the thread and the explainer and I am still unclear what the heck any of that means.
    AIUI the Russians are there as peacekeepers. The Azeris seem to relish another bash at the Armenians.

    Armenia did a Russia in the 1990s, seizing ethnic Armenian Nagorno-Karabakh (re-styled "Artsakh"), along with a significant amount of ethnic Azeri territory. In 2020, Azerbaijan retook almost all the occupied Azeri areas, with Russia stepping in as peacekeepers, ostensibly to keep Artsakh in Armenian hands.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,821
    For the first time in over two years, went to St James's Park (um, the one in London, not Newcastle!) today, it was packed!
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    Will the Windies have to bat again?
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,717
     

    For the first time in over two years, went to St James's Park (um, the one in London, not Newcastle!) today, it was packed!

    St James infirmary next.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    geoffw said:

     

    mwadams said:

    kle4 said:

    No idea what all this means, but I suspect it is not good for Mad Vlad:



    Visegrád 24
    @visegrad24
    ·
    14m
    BREAKING:

    Russia has stated that the Army of Azerbaijan has entered the zone in Armenia held by 2000 Russian “peacekeeping soldiers” in accordance with the Nagorno-Karabakh Ceasefire Agreement from November 2020.

    Russia says it’s now moving troops to their initial positions.


    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1507809504540377100

    Hey, if Azerbaijan perceives a threat that is justified despite agreements, right Russia?
    I have read the thread and the explainer and I am still unclear what the heck any of that means.
    AIUI the Russians are there as peacekeepers. The Azeris seem to relish another bash at the Armenians.

    Given they lost, I'm surprised the Armenia PM did not resign, indeed he's won reelection since (though wiki says he dimissed the Chief of the General Staff following an attempt at a coup).
  • ydoethur said:

    Any thoughts from @david_herdson ?

    Yorkshire Party gain nailed on
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    I see in the 2021 Armenian elections one group was the 'I have honor' alliance. They did poorly, so I guess the Armenian public are saying they do not have any honour?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_Honor_Alliance
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,164

    Today is Saturday, We've Analytical Scores:

    Westminster voting intention:

    LAB: 38% (+1)
    CON: 36% (+1)
    LDEM: 9% (-)
    GRN: 7% (-)

    https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1507810064115064839?t=1VofGhAhOSgn6of5eIe8og&s=19

    via OpiniumResearch, 23 - 25 Mar
    Chgs. w/ 11 Feb


    Last best chance for a Conservative lead this month? And if not this month, when?

    Three months and 20 days since the last Tory poll lead.
    So after the 'worst budget ever' with the press/twitter /PB all in total agreement that the public hated every last bit of it we have a no change opinion poll and a static 2 point Labour lead. Yet again the great British public remain firmly off message. How can it be? :smiley:
  • A run out.

    What the hell is going on out there? Is nobody in charge?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083

    A run out.

    What the hell is going on out there? Is nobody in charge?

    Don't worry, we're about to get into the batters.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,786
    tlg86 said:

    I’m doing a job application, and I was amused by the fact that whoever built the list for ethnic group failed to notice that a return carriage had created two rows.

    I guess Irish/British could be valid, but some applicants might think that “White - English/Welsh/Scottish/Northern” is taking the piss.


    It took me awhile to get that, but once I did it made me and my wife laugh out loud.

    Maybe it is to ensure the company canteen has enough black pudding on the menu and somewhere to put your flat cap and whippet.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,246

    A run out.

    What the hell is going on out there? Is nobody in charge?

    No ... yes ... yes ... no ... NO!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,638
    felix said:

    Today is Saturday, We've Analytical Scores:

    Westminster voting intention:

    LAB: 38% (+1)
    CON: 36% (+1)
    LDEM: 9% (-)
    GRN: 7% (-)

    https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1507810064115064839?t=1VofGhAhOSgn6of5eIe8og&s=19

    via OpiniumResearch, 23 - 25 Mar
    Chgs. w/ 11 Feb


    Last best chance for a Conservative lead this month? And if not this month, when?

    Three months and 20 days since the last Tory poll lead.
    So after the 'worst budget ever' with the press/twitter /PB all in total agreement that the public hated every last bit of it we have a no change opinion poll and a static 2 point Labour lead. Yet again the great British public remain firmly off message. How can it be? :smiley:
    2 reasons. Everyone expected a damp squib, and got it. It also usually takes 7-10 days to hit the polls.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175

    A run out.

    What the hell is going on out there? Is nobody in charge?

    No ... yes ... yes ... no ... NO!
    ....Sorry!
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492
    That's over half of the 561 the Ukrainians are calming, perhaps the Ukrainians are not overly optimistic/exaggerating by that much.

    :)
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,375
    tlg86 said:

    Will the Windies have to bat again?

    If Alex Lees carries his bat, just give up and go home as all reason has departed.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,660
    felix said:

    Today is Saturday, We've Analytical Scores:

    Westminster voting intention:

    LAB: 38% (+1)
    CON: 36% (+1)
    LDEM: 9% (-)
    GRN: 7% (-)

    https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1507810064115064839?t=1VofGhAhOSgn6of5eIe8og&s=19

    via OpiniumResearch, 23 - 25 Mar
    Chgs. w/ 11 Feb


    Last best chance for a Conservative lead this month? And if not this month, when?

    Three months and 20 days since the last Tory poll lead.
    So after the 'worst budget ever' with the press/twitter /PB all in total agreement that the public hated every last bit of it we have a no change opinion poll and a static 2 point Labour lead. Yet again the great British public remain firmly off message. How can it be? :smiley:
    Have to say I am surprised

    Perhaps SKS is even worse than I assumed
  • tlg86 said:

    A run out.

    What the hell is going on out there? Is nobody in charge?

    No ... yes ... yes ... no ... NO!
    ....Sorry!
    Indeed.

    At 83-5 what on earth are you doing taking chancy runs?

    Schoolkids are taught better than that.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,660

    For the first time in over two years, went to St James's Park (um, the one in London, not Newcastle!) today, it was packed!

    Not the one in Exeter?
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