I found yesterday quite cathartic bizarrely. Why? Well I am clearly not a fan of Thatcher, but I found myself defending her from @HYUFD mad demonic catagorisation of her. This was a new and refreshing experience for me. The more I thought about it the more I thought about the fact that (with the exception of Tebbit) the Thatcher Govt was made up of grown ups regardless of what I thought of their policies. Made me feel much happier.
No doubt my bubble will be burst by examples of idiots from that era, but currently I'm very relaxed in my view.
Tebbit was tough and had guts, so no wonder you were not a fan
His dad had a bicycle as I recall.
A reminder to us that for all Boris Johnson's stone cold heartlessness, the Conservative Party had and have even more objectionable operatives waiting in the wings.
Epping's second finest contribution to Conservative politics.
He was proper working class, mind. For that and other reasons I'd take him over the flsoj any day of the week.
Instead of talking about France, could we discuss the Falkland Islands on this thread?
We don't talk about them enough.
(runs for cover)
It’s really simple and well documented.
(Okay, it’s very complex but still well documented)
Seventeen planes out of Ascencion, refuelling each other in a carefully co-ordinated manner, to get one Vulcan to do one bombing run in Falkland, before returning to Ascencion without landing.
Never was the F-111K so badly missed. The USAF used 20 KC-135 to put 20 F-111F over Libya on Eldorado Canyon flying a similar distance to Black Buck.
Oh, I think talking about the Falklands is fine though it would have to be done only by those who were adults at the time.
Can we make that a rule?
I think talking about the Falklands is fine though it would have to be done only by those who were are adults
Totally O/T, we have just priced for installing a new ASHP heating/hot water system in a small infants school. The school currently has an old oil fired boiler which will need removing. Normally we replace this with a modern gas boiler and new control panel. The average cost for such a project is around £65k
The ASHP system for this small school requires 4 outdoor units and 11 indoor units, the pipework throughout the school has to be doubled in size as do the radiators. Significant building works are required to house all the new equipment. The electrical supply to the school has to be upgraded to 185mm cable to cope with the hugh increase in electricity required to power all the new equipment. And the funniest part is that the job includes for the installing of a small gas boiler as back up as they know the new system will not work.
Our quote for the job is £410k.
Its no wonder other Councils are abandoning the idea of ASHPs to heat their buildings.
This and other bits of information that emerge suggest that on the whole with ASHP those unless you are very technically expert, don't be an early adopter. I slightly wonder whether it would be more efficient, because of the simplicity, in 50,000,000 UK locations to use renewables to generate vastly more electricity than presently and use it directly to heat, as with old fashioned electric water heaters, radiators etc. Much less efficient with electricity, but much more efficient in mass installation of systems.
Totally O/T, we have just priced for installing a new ASHP heating/hot water system in a small infants school. The school currently has an old oil fired boiler which will need removing. Normally we replace this with a modern gas boiler and new control panel. The average cost for such a project is around £65k
The ASHP system for this small school requires 4 outdoor units and 11 indoor units, the pipework throughout the school has to be doubled in size as do the radiators. Significant building works are required to house all the new equipment. The electrical supply to the school has to be upgraded to 185mm cable to cope with the hugh increase in electricity required to power all the new equipment. And the funniest part is that the job includes for the installing of a small gas boiler as back up as they know the new system will not work.
Our quote for the job is £410k.
Its no wonder other Councils are abandoning the idea of ASHPs to heat their buildings.
This and other bits of information that emerge suggest that on the whole with ASHP those unless you are very technically expert, don't be an early adopter. I slightly wonder whether it would be more efficient, because of the simplicity, in 50,000,000 UK locations to use renewables to generate vastly more electricity than presently and use it directly to heat, as with old fashioned electric water heaters, radiators etc. Much less efficient with electricity, but much more efficient in mass installation of systems.
I think it is more that it is a whole building system. Great for new built houses, built to the right spec. Great for the kind of rip outs where you keep the front, the side walls, everything else goes (floors included).
Saw a house 2 days ago where the builder had put one in for the little old lady who lived there. In the loft conversion, he also did, you could see daylight in the storage cupboards in the eaves of the roof...
Instead of talking about France, could we discuss the Falkland Islands on this thread?
We don't talk about them enough.
(runs for cover)
It’s really simple and well documented.
(Okay, it’s very complex but still well documented)
Seventeen planes out of Ascencion, refuelling each other in a carefully co-ordinated manner, to get one Vulcan to do one bombing run in Falkland, before returning to Ascencion without landing.
Never was the F-111K so badly missed. The USAF used 20 KC-135 to put 20 F-111F over Libya on Eldorado Canyon flying a similar distance to Black Buck.
Oh, I think talking about the Falklands is fine though it would have to be done only by those who were adults at the time.
Can't tell if that is tongue in cheek or not. I am not shy about sharing my thoughts on the Sicilian Expedition of 415 BC, but I have at least read a book about it, and lots of books about the book about it. HYUFD is at a slight disadvantage to some of us over the Falklands but he could rectify the situation by, again, reading a book or two. Or even wikipedia.
Men Joining Army In Wartime Expected To Fight Shock
Good for them signing up, but wtf did they expect? A couple of weeks Instagram opportunities and home to a hero's welcome?
TBF Army advertising doesn't stress opportunities for getting your head blown off. It's all about bonding and seeing the world.
I always liked the one about the chap in the first Gulf war who developed a case of conscientious objection. After having served in the *Artillery* for a number of years. He stated that he hadn't joined the Army to kill people.
I wonder what he thought those big noisy things were for?
Totally O/T, we have just priced for installing a new ASHP heating/hot water system in a small infants school. The school currently has an old oil fired boiler which will need removing. Normally we replace this with a modern gas boiler and new control panel. The average cost for such a project is around £65k
The ASHP system for this small school requires 4 outdoor units and 11 indoor units, the pipework throughout the school has to be doubled in size as do the radiators. Significant building works are required to house all the new equipment. The electrical supply to the school has to be upgraded to 185mm cable to cope with the hugh increase in electricity required to power all the new equipment. And the funniest part is that the job includes for the installing of a small gas boiler as back up as they know the new system will not work.
Our quote for the job is £410k.
Its no wonder other Councils are abandoning the idea of ASHPs to heat their buildings.
This and other bits of information that emerge suggest that on the whole with ASHP those unless you are very technically expert, don't be an early adopter. I slightly wonder whether it would be more efficient, because of the simplicity, in 50,000,000 UK locations to use renewables to generate vastly more electricity than presently and use it directly to heat, as with old fashioned electric water heaters, radiators etc. Much less efficient with electricity, but much more efficient in mass installation of systems.
Bring back storage heaters? Top up when the wind is blowing, no-one else needs the electricity and when it's cheap? With smart meters and better heat retention in the heaters a cheap and simple solution could work, perhaps?
I've got to say Falklandsgate has been one of the more amusing episodes lately and I was here for the MrEd micro-flounce and Thommo's 48 hour post-athon on how sending a letter wasn't sending a letter.
I found yesterday quite cathartic bizarrely. Why? Well I am clearly not a fan of Thatcher, but I found myself defending her from @HYUFD mad demonic catagorisation of her. This was a new and refreshing experience for me. The more I thought about it the more I thought about the fact that (with the exception of Tebbit) the Thatcher Govt was made up of grown ups regardless of what I thought of their policies. Made me feel much happier.
No doubt my bubble will be burst by examples of idiots from that era, but currently I'm very relaxed in my view.
Tebbit was tough and had guts, so no wonder you were not a fan
Oh you want to carry on do you, even though it ruined your evening?
As pointed out by others your last post last night must have been the most ironic statement ever made in history. It was mindbogglingly you have so little self awareness.
It was the truth and if it annoyed you tough
What you posted about Vulcans plural being on the Falklands and available to bomb Argentina was laughable, demonstrable bollocks. See the image posted upthread as to the herculean efforts to get a single Vulcan over - not on - the Falklands to bomb the runway.
"It was the truth". Are you really this self-inflated?
Men Joining Army In Wartime Expected To Fight Shock
Good for them signing up, but wtf did they expect? A couple of weeks Instagram opportunities and home to a hero's welcome?
TBF Army advertising doesn't stress opportunities for getting your head blown off. It's all about bonding and seeing the world.
I always liked the one about the chap in the first Gulf war who developed a case of conscientious objection. After having served in the *Artillery* for a number of years. He stated that he hadn't joined the Army to kill people.
I wonder what he thought those big noisy things were for?
I think in 1982 Benn read a letter from a bloke in the Royal Marines saying he'd only signed up because unemployment and Fatcha. If it wasn't the RM it was certainly a similarly pointy-end sort of outfit, begging the question why he hadn't gone for the catering corps or similar
top tip for anyone feeling like taking Zelensky's shilling:
buy 75in or larger QLED telly
watch first 30 minutes of Saving Private Ryan in HD on it
I found yesterday quite cathartic bizarrely. Why? Well I am clearly not a fan of Thatcher, but I found myself defending her from @HYUFD mad demonic catagorisation of her. This was a new and refreshing experience for me. The more I thought about it the more I thought about the fact that (with the exception of Tebbit) the Thatcher Govt was made up of grown ups regardless of what I thought of their policies. Made me feel much happier.
No doubt my bubble will be burst by examples of idiots from that era, but currently I'm very relaxed in my view.
Tebbit was tough and had guts, so no wonder you were not a fan
Oh you want to carry on do you, even though it ruined your evening?
As pointed out by others your last post last night must have been the most ironic statement ever made in history. It was mindbogglingly you have so little self awareness.
It was the truth and if it annoyed you tough
What you posted about Vulcans plural being on the Falklands and available to bomb Argentina was laughable, demonstrable bollocks. See the image posted upthread as to the herculean efforts to get a single Vulcan over - not on - the Falklands to bomb the runway.
"It was the truth". Are you really this self-inflated?
Oh no. Please, please, please don't get him started again.
Men Joining Army In Wartime Expected To Fight Shock
Good for them signing up, but wtf did they expect? A couple of weeks Instagram opportunities and home to a hero's welcome?
TBF Army advertising doesn't stress opportunities for getting your head blown off. It's all about bonding and seeing the world.
I always liked the one about the chap in the first Gulf war who developed a case of conscientious objection. After having served in the *Artillery* for a number of years. He stated that he hadn't joined the Army to kill people.
I wonder what he thought those big noisy things were for?
I think in 1982 Benn read a letter from a bloke in the Royal Marines saying he'd only signed up because unemployment and Fatcha. If it wasn't the RM it was certainly a similarly pointy-end sort of outfit, begging the question why he hadn't gone for the catering corps or similar
top tip for anyone feeling like taking Zelensky's shilling:
buy 75in or larger QLED telly
watch first 30 minutes of Saving Private Ryan in HD on it
reconsider
Oh God, don't. I sued to work at a place making Set To Boxes, and one of the test streams we had was the first portion of Saving Private Ryan. There's lots of stuff happening on screen, changing rapidly, so it was good test to throw up artefacts. A lab would have loads of screens showing it, all around you, as you tried to work.
It made me the person I am today.. . (polishes axe).
Another good test stream was a picture of flames. Again, an image changing rapidly shows up artefacts. Now, where are the matches?
Men Joining Army In Wartime Expected To Fight Shock
Good for them signing up, but wtf did they expect? A couple of weeks Instagram opportunities and home to a hero's welcome?
TBF Army advertising doesn't stress opportunities for getting your head blown off. It's all about bonding and seeing the world.
I always liked the one about the chap in the first Gulf war who developed a case of conscientious objection. After having served in the *Artillery* for a number of years. He stated that he hadn't joined the Army to kill people.
I wonder what he thought those big noisy things were for?
I think in 1982 Benn read a letter from a bloke in the Royal Marines saying he'd only signed up because unemployment and Fatcha. If it wasn't the RM it was certainly a similarly pointy-end sort of outfit, begging the question why he hadn't gone for the catering corps or similar
Nobody really knows if they can kill another person until they're told to do it. US Army studies in Vietnam showed about 1 in 10 can. So you get a significant number of people who've joined up, gone through the training, deployed and then discover they can't do it.
A number of RAF Tornado crew succumbed to late onset pacifism one the eve of Iraq 1. They were quietly ushered back to Germany for 'medical' reasons. These were people who gone through O&AS, IOT, EFT, BFT, TTTE, OCU, gone to a squadron and achieved 'Combat Ready' status. All of that took 5-7 years in which they were intensively conditioned in 'scenario fulfillment' (ie killing people) yet when the day came they couldn't...
Men Joining Army In Wartime Expected To Fight Shock
Good for them signing up, but wtf did they expect? A couple of weeks Instagram opportunities and home to a hero's welcome?
TBF Army advertising doesn't stress opportunities for getting your head blown off. It's all about bonding and seeing the world.
I always liked the one about the chap in the first Gulf war who developed a case of conscientious objection. After having served in the *Artillery* for a number of years. He stated that he hadn't joined the Army to kill people.
I wonder what he thought those big noisy things were for?
I think in 1982 Benn read a letter from a bloke in the Royal Marines saying he'd only signed up because unemployment and Fatcha. If it wasn't the RM it was certainly a similarly pointy-end sort of outfit, begging the question why he hadn't gone for the catering corps or similar
top tip for anyone feeling like taking Zelensky's shilling:
buy 75in or larger QLED telly
watch first 30 minutes of Saving Private Ryan in HD on it
reconsider
Oh God, don't. I sued to work at a place making Set To Boxes, and one of the test streams we had was the first portion of Saving Private Ryan. There's lots of stuff happening on screen, changing rapidly, so it was good test to throw up artefacts. A lab would have loads of screens showing it, all around you, as you tried to work.
It made me the person I am today.. . (polishes axe).
Another good test stream was a picture of flames. Again, an image changing rapidly shows up artefacts. Now, where are the matches?
That's a glorious typo. I've witnessed more than one 'set to' related to control over a set-top box.
I found yesterday quite cathartic bizarrely. Why? Well I am clearly not a fan of Thatcher, but I found myself defending her from @HYUFD mad demonic catagorisation of her. This was a new and refreshing experience for me. The more I thought about it the more I thought about the fact that (with the exception of Tebbit) the Thatcher Govt was made up of grown ups regardless of what I thought of their policies. Made me feel much happier.
No doubt my bubble will be burst by examples of idiots from that era, but currently I'm very relaxed in my view.
Tebbit was tough and had guts, so no wonder you were not a fan
His dad had a bicycle as I recall.
A reminder to us that for all Boris Johnson's stone cold heartlessness, the Conservative Party had and have even more objectionable operatives waiting in the wings.
Epping's second finest contribution to Conservative politics.
He was proper working class, mind. For that and other reasons I'd take him over the flsoj any day of the week.
More house-trained polecats in politics please.
Semi-house-trained I think was Michael Foot's description.
I also recall that he had difficulty comparing those Russians who voted Communist 'because they wanted the Good Old Days' and people who voted Conservative in Britain for the same reason. Couldn't get his head around the similarity, as I recall.
But he really looked after his wife after the Brighton atrocity.
Men Joining Army In Wartime Expected To Fight Shock
Good for them signing up, but wtf did they expect? A couple of weeks Instagram opportunities and home to a hero's welcome?
TBF Army advertising doesn't stress opportunities for getting your head blown off. It's all about bonding and seeing the world.
I always liked the one about the chap in the first Gulf war who developed a case of conscientious objection. After having served in the *Artillery* for a number of years. He stated that he hadn't joined the Army to kill people.
I wonder what he thought those big noisy things were for?
I think in 1982 Benn read a letter from a bloke in the Royal Marines saying he'd only signed up because unemployment and Fatcha. If it wasn't the RM it was certainly a similarly pointy-end sort of outfit, begging the question why he hadn't gone for the catering corps or similar
Nobody really knows if they can kill another person until they're told to do it. US Army studies in Vietnam showed about 1 in 10 can. So you get a significant number of people who've joined up, gone through the training, deployed and then discover they can't do it.
A number of RAF Tornado crew succumbed to late onset pacifism one the eve of Iraq 1. They were quietly ushered back to Germany for 'medical' reasons. These were people who gone through O&AS, IOT, EFT, BFT, TTTE, OCU, gone to a squadron and achieved 'Combat Ready' status. All of that took 5-7 years in which they were intensively conditioned in 'scenario fulfillment' (ie killing people) yet when the day came they couldn't...
You get the same thing, to compare great things with little, with shooting deer. Lots of people who are perfectly OK shooting rifles at targets get "stag fever" when pointing one at live quarry and shake too much to hit it, whether from excitement or horror or whatever.
Men Joining Army In Wartime Expected To Fight Shock
Good for them signing up, but wtf did they expect? A couple of weeks Instagram opportunities and home to a hero's welcome?
TBF Army advertising doesn't stress opportunities for getting your head blown off. It's all about bonding and seeing the world.
I always liked the one about the chap in the first Gulf war who developed a case of conscientious objection. After having served in the *Artillery* for a number of years. He stated that he hadn't joined the Army to kill people.
I wonder what he thought those big noisy things were for?
I think in 1982 Benn read a letter from a bloke in the Royal Marines saying he'd only signed up because unemployment and Fatcha. If it wasn't the RM it was certainly a similarly pointy-end sort of outfit, begging the question why he hadn't gone for the catering corps or similar
Nobody really knows if they can kill another person until they're told to do it. US Army studies in Vietnam showed about 1 in 10 can. So you get a significant number of people who've joined up, gone through the training, deployed and then discover they can't do it.
A number of RAF Tornado crew succumbed to late onset pacifism one the eve of Iraq 1. They were quietly ushered back to Germany for 'medical' reasons. These were people who gone through O&AS, IOT, EFT, BFT, TTTE, OCU, gone to a squadron and achieved 'Combat Ready' status. All of that took 5-7 years in which they were intensively conditioned in 'scenario fulfillment' (ie killing people) yet when the day came they couldn't...
Apparently after the battle of Gettysburg lots of muskets were picked up unfired.
Men Joining Army In Wartime Expected To Fight Shock
Good for them signing up, but wtf did they expect? A couple of weeks Instagram opportunities and home to a hero's welcome?
TBF Army advertising doesn't stress opportunities for getting your head blown off. It's all about bonding and seeing the world.
I always liked the one about the chap in the first Gulf war who developed a case of conscientious objection. After having served in the *Artillery* for a number of years. He stated that he hadn't joined the Army to kill people.
I wonder what he thought those big noisy things were for?
I think in 1982 Benn read a letter from a bloke in the Royal Marines saying he'd only signed up because unemployment and Fatcha. If it wasn't the RM it was certainly a similarly pointy-end sort of outfit, begging the question why he hadn't gone for the catering corps or similar
Nobody really knows if they can kill another person until they're told to do it. US Army studies in Vietnam showed about 1 in 10 can. So you get a significant number of people who've joined up, gone through the training, deployed and then discover they can't do it.
A number of RAF Tornado crew succumbed to late onset pacifism one the eve of Iraq 1. They were quietly ushered back to Germany for 'medical' reasons. These were people who gone through O&AS, IOT, EFT, BFT, TTTE, OCU, gone to a squadron and achieved 'Combat Ready' status. All of that took 5-7 years in which they were intensively conditioned in 'scenario fulfillment' (ie killing people) yet when the day came they couldn't...
My late father-in-law joined the RAF at the outbreak of war and went through flying training. Then it was discovered he had an eye problem and he was assigned to ground duties. However he then said he couldn't kill anyone, so was sent to Bomb Disposal, where he spent two years! Don't know what he have done if he'd actually passed his flying training.
I found yesterday quite cathartic bizarrely. Why? Well I am clearly not a fan of Thatcher, but I found myself defending her from @HYUFD mad demonic catagorisation of her. This was a new and refreshing experience for me. The more I thought about it the more I thought about the fact that (with the exception of Tebbit) the Thatcher Govt was made up of grown ups regardless of what I thought of their policies. Made me feel much happier.
No doubt my bubble will be burst by examples of idiots from that era, but currently I'm very relaxed in my view.
Tebbit was tough and had guts, so no wonder you were not a fan
Oh you want to carry on do you, even though it ruined your evening?
As pointed out by others your last post last night must have been the most ironic statement ever made in history. It was mindbogglingly you have so little self awareness.
It was the truth and if it annoyed you tough
What you posted about Vulcans plural being on the Falklands and available to bomb Argentina was laughable, demonstrable bollocks. See the image posted upthread as to the herculean efforts to get a single Vulcan over - not on - the Falklands to bomb the runway.
"It was the truth". Are you really this self-inflated?
We also had Sea Darts and Sea Wolfs to defend our ships going over there.
It was a war of self defence after British territory was invaded, all armour potentially could have been used against the Argentines which they should have known when they invaded.
We also of course had submarines with missiles which could have been parked off the Argentine coast until they withdrew. That is war
Totally O/T, we have just priced for installing a new ASHP heating/hot water system in a small infants school. The school currently has an old oil fired boiler which will need removing. Normally we replace this with a modern gas boiler and new control panel. The average cost for such a project is around £65k
The ASHP system for this small school requires 4 outdoor units and 11 indoor units, the pipework throughout the school has to be doubled in size as do the radiators. Significant building works are required to house all the new equipment. The electrical supply to the school has to be upgraded to 185mm cable to cope with the hugh increase in electricity required to power all the new equipment. And the funniest part is that the job includes for the installing of a small gas boiler as back up as they know the new system will not work.
Our quote for the job is £410k.
Its no wonder other Councils are abandoning the idea of ASHPs to heat their buildings.
This and other bits of information that emerge suggest that on the whole with ASHP those unless you are very technically expert, don't be an early adopter. I slightly wonder whether it would be more efficient, because of the simplicity, in 50,000,000 UK locations to use renewables to generate vastly more electricity than presently and use it directly to heat, as with old fashioned electric water heaters, radiators etc. Much less efficient with electricity, but much more efficient in mass installation of systems.
Bring back storage heaters? Top up when the wind is blowing, no-one else needs the electricity and when it's cheap? With smart meters and better heat retention in the heaters a cheap and simple solution could work, perhaps?
I lived in a house with storage heaters in the late 90s. They were bloody useless. The house was blisteringly hot between about 9pm and 11am, and freezing thereafter. They seemed able to store heat for no more than about 2 hours. Presumably they have improved since.
I found yesterday quite cathartic bizarrely. Why? Well I am clearly not a fan of Thatcher, but I found myself defending her from @HYUFD mad demonic catagorisation of her. This was a new and refreshing experience for me. The more I thought about it the more I thought about the fact that (with the exception of Tebbit) the Thatcher Govt was made up of grown ups regardless of what I thought of their policies. Made me feel much happier.
No doubt my bubble will be burst by examples of idiots from that era, but currently I'm very relaxed in my view.
Not dissimilar attitudes as some of the current Met officers. Havers drew controversy at the outset of the trial, when he said of Sutcliffe's victims in his introductory speech: "Some were prostitutes, but perhaps the saddest part of the case is that some were not. The last six attacks were on totally respectable women."...
My nags for today , had poor day yesterday with non runners and others being donkeys. Tough racing today , winners will be hard to come by. @moonrabbit@stodge@ping
EW Patent Sire Du Berlais 14:10 Cheltenham Champ 15:30 Cheltenham Imperial Alcazar 16:10 Cheltenham
Singles EW Sire Du Berlais 14:10 Cheltenham Champ 15:30 Cheltenham Imperial Alcazar 16:10 Cheltenham
Morning Malc just as well I go to Cheltenham for the booze and socialising racing not the money (although I did back Facile Vega as in an RP article prior to the meeting Willie Mullins, discussing his chances, had said of it "of all the runners I have I would want to be on Facile Vega..." which sounded pretty emphatic to me!)
Yesterday was a cracking day, that said. Quite surreal with essentially a morass of horses moving around the track everyone looking grey and brown behind the front runners. Shishkin didn't travel a yard and I'm not going to get into the should they/shouldn't they have watered debate - suffice to say that rain was showing on all weather apps on the Weds for days and yet unwatered/rained upon the ground would have probably been good/good to firm... Who'd be clerk of the course.
Equally it was a good advert for honest racing to see Delta Work win when we were all imagining what would have happened in F1 with Jack Kennedy receiving instructions through his comms system to let Tiger Roll pass. The biggest mystery continues to be what the cross country race is for, that said.
Have a great day today.
So much booing for Delta Work! I don’t know how much you saw of the winning parade Topping, the horse was cross, reacting at the booing with longest face, chomping the bit, pulling towards the crowd trying to get in the enclosure and bite them! All the horses managed a slippery cross country very well. My horse came nowhere in it, there was a moment just after they had got over the bannisters with Mrs miggins garden gate and the duck pond to come I thought mine got a nudge.
Interesting to see from the FT that the UK supplies to Ukraine appear limited to anti-armour weapons, medical supplies, and clothing, as also are many other countries. Whereas much of the EU is also supplying small arms and ammunition, and several are supplying anti-aircraft kit, artillery and shells, with Germany also supplying armoured vehicles.
It’s quite interesting contrasting France and the UK very generally on regional identity and separatism.
Both countries are a larger version of their original cores through war/conquest or absorption.
In the UK the “absorbed/conquered” parts have kept very strong visible identities and different levels of their own independent decision making away from London which have evolved over time but still have strong cultural identities and differences.
The degrees are wide from Scotland, Wales and NI to Cornish or Yorkshire identity.
France however had been very good/very brutal at suppressing the identities of their equivalents with a long focus on being totally “French”.
So whilst areas such as Brittany, Savoie and Basque pockets have independence movements they aren’t very strong and probably mirror Cornish independence movements.
Areas that weren’t historically “France” that aren’t Brittany and Savoie such as Aquitaine and Gascony are very much brought into the whole French demos.
It’s understandable why Corsica is more of an outlier as was always treated slightly badly by France in a cultural sneer kind of way - Napoleon was mocked non stop at military school for being a Corsican, treated like an educated monkey.
I would be surprised if this was a larger issue for France but interesting to see how it pans out.
True, but didn't stop the French making him an emperor! And the "educated monkey" rewrote their constitution on his days off from conquering most of Europe.
Do the French still have that mocking attitude to Corsica?
To be honest I’m not sure how modern French see Corsicans but at the time of Napoleon it was seen as very backwards and different - I would guess very much like how a lot of English viewed Ireland and the Irish at the same time. Interesting that Napoleon and Wellington were both from places that were looked down on by the people who worshipped them later!
It’s a known phenomenon. The outsider - usually middle or lower middle class - aspires to take over the metropole, and is more patriotic than the posher types in the capital
By contrast, religious or nihilistic revolutionaries tend to come from the upper middle or upper classes. Buddha. Bin Laden. Muhammad. Corbyn
Men Joining Army In Wartime Expected To Fight Shock
Good for them signing up, but wtf did they expect? A couple of weeks Instagram opportunities and home to a hero's welcome?
TBF Army advertising doesn't stress opportunities for getting your head blown off. It's all about bonding and seeing the world.
I always liked the one about the chap in the first Gulf war who developed a case of conscientious objection. After having served in the *Artillery* for a number of years. He stated that he hadn't joined the Army to kill people.
I wonder what he thought those big noisy things were for?
I think in 1982 Benn read a letter from a bloke in the Royal Marines saying he'd only signed up because unemployment and Fatcha. If it wasn't the RM it was certainly a similarly pointy-end sort of outfit, begging the question why he hadn't gone for the catering corps or similar
top tip for anyone feeling like taking Zelensky's shilling:
buy 75in or larger QLED telly
watch first 30 minutes of Saving Private Ryan in HD on it
reconsider
Just don't bother with the next 140 minutes just in case the soapy triteness gets the warmongering juices flowing again.
I found yesterday quite cathartic bizarrely. Why? Well I am clearly not a fan of Thatcher, but I found myself defending her from @HYUFD mad demonic catagorisation of her. This was a new and refreshing experience for me. The more I thought about it the more I thought about the fact that (with the exception of Tebbit) the Thatcher Govt was made up of grown ups regardless of what I thought of their policies. Made me feel much happier.
No doubt my bubble will be burst by examples of idiots from that era, but currently I'm very relaxed in my view.
Not dissimilar attitudes as some of the current Met officers. Havers drew controversy at the outset of the trial, when he said of Sutcliffe's victims in his introductory speech: "Some were prostitutes, but perhaps the saddest part of the case is that some were not. The last six attacks were on totally respectable women."...
You go through life thinking nothing much changes day to day, and then remember something like that. The past is a foreign country.
Interesting to see from the FT that the UK supplies to Ukraine appear limited to anti-armour weapons, medical supplies, and clothing. Whereas many EU countries are supplying small arms and ammunition, and several are supplying anti-aircraft kit, artillery and shells, with Germany also supplying armoured vehicles.
There seems to be a sharing out of who supplies what - there was an FT article about that a while back, IIRC.
I found yesterday quite cathartic bizarrely. Why? Well I am clearly not a fan of Thatcher, but I found myself defending her from @HYUFD mad demonic catagorisation of her. This was a new and refreshing experience for me. The more I thought about it the more I thought about the fact that (with the exception of Tebbit) the Thatcher Govt was made up of grown ups regardless of what I thought of their policies. Made me feel much happier.
No doubt my bubble will be burst by examples of idiots from that era, but currently I'm very relaxed in my view.
Not dissimilar attitudes as some of the current Met officers. Havers drew controversy at the outset of the trial, when he said of Sutcliffe's victims in his introductory speech: "Some were prostitutes, but perhaps the saddest part of the case is that some were not. The last six attacks were on totally respectable women."...
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has concluded his address to the German Bundestag in Berlin.
He thanked Germany for its assistance, but told lawmakers their support "came too late to stop war".
"Why does 'never again' not apply," he asked. "What is Germany's historic responsibility towards Ukraine today?".
Zelensky also criticised German leaders over the country's business interests in Russia.
"We could see your willingness to continue to do business with Russia and now we're in the middle of the cold war," Zelesnky said.
"And again this is something you have failed to see. You're still protecting yourself behind a wall that does not make it possible for you to see what we are going through."
He concluded by calling for Germany to tackle Russian aggression and impose harsher sanctions on Moscow. "Peace is more important than income," he told MPs.
It’s quite interesting contrasting France and the UK very generally on regional identity and separatism.
Both countries are a larger version of their original cores through war/conquest or absorption.
In the UK the “absorbed/conquered” parts have kept very strong visible identities and different levels of their own independent decision making away from London which have evolved over time but still have strong cultural identities and differences.
The degrees are wide from Scotland, Wales and NI to Cornish or Yorkshire identity.
France however had been very good/very brutal at suppressing the identities of their equivalents with a long focus on being totally “French”.
So whilst areas such as Brittany, Savoie and Basque pockets have independence movements they aren’t very strong and probably mirror Cornish independence movements.
Areas that weren’t historically “France” that aren’t Brittany and Savoie such as Aquitaine and Gascony are very much brought into the whole French demos.
It’s understandable why Corsica is more of an outlier as was always treated slightly badly by France in a cultural sneer kind of way - Napoleon was mocked non stop at military school for being a Corsican, treated like an educated monkey.
I would be surprised if this was a larger issue for France but interesting to see how it pans out.
True, but didn't stop the French making him an emperor! And the "educated monkey" rewrote their constitution on his days off from conquering most of Europe.
Do the French still have that mocking attitude to Corsica?
To be honest I’m not sure how modern French see Corsicans but at the time of Napoleon it was seen as very backwards and different - I would guess very much like how a lot of English viewed Ireland and the Irish at the same time. Interesting that Napoleon and Wellington were both from places that were looked down on by the people who worshipped them later!
It’s a known phenomenon. The outsider - usually middle or lower middle class - aspires to take over the metropole, and is more patriotic than the posher types in the capital
By contrast, religious or nihilistic revolutionaries tend to come from the upper middle or upper classes. Buddha. Bin Laden. Muhammad. Corbyn
Per the BBC, P&O not liquidating, announcement will “secure future” and “has the support of existing owners”. So why must the ships remain in port for a few hours? Some insurance technicality?
Interesting to see from the FT that the UK supplies to Ukraine appear limited to anti-armour weapons, medical supplies, and clothing, as also are many other countries. Whereas much of the EU is also supplying small arms and ammunition, and several are supplying anti-aircraft kit, artillery and shells, with Germany also supplying armoured vehicles.
The largest UK contribution is the anti-tank NLAW, somewhere around 20,000 of them.
And bloody good they’ve been too. Keep’em coming!
Each country has supplied what best they can, from Ukraine’s list of wants. They want equipment they know already, rather than something which will take time to train - hence the argument about the Polish MiG-29 planes, which are close to what Ukraine already flies.
I found yesterday quite cathartic bizarrely. Why? Well I am clearly not a fan of Thatcher, but I found myself defending her from @HYUFD mad demonic catagorisation of her. This was a new and refreshing experience for me. The more I thought about it the more I thought about the fact that (with the exception of Tebbit) the Thatcher Govt was made up of grown ups regardless of what I thought of their policies. Made me feel much happier.
No doubt my bubble will be burst by examples of idiots from that era, but currently I'm very relaxed in my view.
Tebbit was tough and had guts, so no wonder you were not a fan
Oh you want to carry on do you, even though it ruined your evening?
As pointed out by others your last post last night must have been the most ironic statement ever made in history. It was mindbogglingly you have so little self awareness.
It was the truth and if it annoyed you tough
What you posted about Vulcans plural being on the Falklands and available to bomb Argentina was laughable, demonstrable bollocks. See the image posted upthread as to the herculean efforts to get a single Vulcan over - not on - the Falklands to bomb the runway.
"It was the truth". Are you really this self-inflated?
We also had Sea Darts and Sea Wolfs to defend our ships going over there.
It was a war of self defence after British territory was invaded, all armour potentially could have been used against the Argentines which they should have known when they invaded.
We also of course had submarines with missiles which could have been parked off the Argentine coast until they withdrew. That is war
This is laughable. Do keep going. A wonderful advert for your party.
Interesting to see from the FT that the UK supplies to Ukraine appear limited to anti-armour weapons, medical supplies, and clothing, as also are many other countries. Whereas much of the EU is also supplying small arms and ammunition, and several are supplying anti-aircraft kit, artillery and shells, with Germany also supplying armoured vehicles.
The largest UK contribution is the anti-tank NLAW, somewhere around 20,000 of them.
It’s quite interesting contrasting France and the UK very generally on regional identity and separatism.
Both countries are a larger version of their original cores through war/conquest or absorption.
In the UK the “absorbed/conquered” parts have kept very strong visible identities and different levels of their own independent decision making away from London which have evolved over time but still have strong cultural identities and differences.
The degrees are wide from Scotland, Wales and NI to Cornish or Yorkshire identity.
France however had been very good/very brutal at suppressing the identities of their equivalents with a long focus on being totally “French”.
So whilst areas such as Brittany, Savoie and Basque pockets have independence movements they aren’t very strong and probably mirror Cornish independence movements.
Areas that weren’t historically “France” that aren’t Brittany and Savoie such as Aquitaine and Gascony are very much brought into the whole French demos.
It’s understandable why Corsica is more of an outlier as was always treated slightly badly by France in a cultural sneer kind of way - Napoleon was mocked non stop at military school for being a Corsican, treated like an educated monkey.
I would be surprised if this was a larger issue for France but interesting to see how it pans out.
True, but didn't stop the French making him an emperor! And the "educated monkey" rewrote their constitution on his days off from conquering most of Europe.
Do the French still have that mocking attitude to Corsica?
To be honest I’m not sure how modern French see Corsicans but at the time of Napoleon it was seen as very backwards and different - I would guess very much like how a lot of English viewed Ireland and the Irish at the same time. Interesting that Napoleon and Wellington were both from places that were looked down on by the people who worshipped them later!
It’s a known phenomenon. The outsider - usually middle or lower middle class - aspires to take over the metropole, and is more patriotic than the posher types in the capital
By contrast, religious or nihilistic revolutionaries tend to come from the upper middle or upper classes. Buddha. Bin Laden. Muhammad. Corbyn
And the chaps who go up to Oxford/Cambridge and suddenly start wearing tweeds and changing their accent morphing into Sebastian Flyte meets JRM and becoming more “public schoolboy” than the actual public school boys.
My nags for today , had poor day yesterday with non runners and others being donkeys. Tough racing today , winners will be hard to come by. @moonrabbit@stodge@ping
EW Patent Sire Du Berlais 14:10 Cheltenham Champ 15:30 Cheltenham Imperial Alcazar 16:10 Cheltenham
Singles EW Sire Du Berlais 14:10 Cheltenham Champ 15:30 Cheltenham Imperial Alcazar 16:10 Cheltenham
Totally agree with you Malc, difficult races to call if Allaho don’t win probably no winner today. But I feel lifted you havn’t given up on Champ either, and we are both on Sire Du Berlais too.
But despite boxes of non runners still huge fields for the two handicaps. I’ve spent hours trying to not miss something.
*Betting Post 🐎 Day 3
The drama continues. And it was drama yesterday, with weather forecasters getting Cotswold weather wrong, expecting no rain so they watered the course! And then it rained all day. The two big match ups probably ruined by the ground getting heavy. Many punters had probably selected on understanding good to soft or even ante bet on horses withdrawn last minute
I have the going as soft for today, my advice is bet opposite today than yesterday - I picked on Wednesday horses to win whose chances only improve if it gets softer. The rain has gone, it will dry with each passing hour of the festival, so I think no need to go for mudlarks, anticipate soft, softish in places, and on to good, soft in places on gold cup day.
I have four wins from 8 tips so far, but don’t go overboard on my tips today thinking I have form, I won’t! I don’t feel nearly as confident about three of them as yesterday. This is because the races look more open. A day to back with the head I think.
These are horses I am on today, and analysis why.
14:10 Sire Du Berlais A case in point. A three mile handicap hurdle with 20+ riders on a drying track. But Sire Du Berlais is twice a winner of this race, in 2020 on soft year before good to soft, in both wins judged the race perfectly to be ahead at finish, and build up this season is clearly with this race in mind I think. There are other challengers, but the class and around the block knowledge we are investing into is good value for some sort of return.
14:50 Allaho NAP Cool head says Something has to go wrong not to have at least one winner in our slip today. Betting forecast suggests pick e/w bet for second for better odds, but far too open race for second I think.
15:30 Champ I ❤️ Champ but don’t let that put you off on a day for head over heart. There’s no problem with distance, maybe like it firmer going, form is always there for a wonder horse, and should be fresh. The problem is the opponents are worthy, so much so bookies and pundits have forsaken Champ, like something from High Noon. But this horse is a born winner, won’t go down without a fight. Join me on Champ and get set for the showdown. Don’t forsake me oh my darling 😍
16:10 The Glancing Queen Now a 2m4f handicap chase with about 20 entrants. The Glancing Queen last start was on news years day at Cheltenham over this distance on soft, coming second to L'Homme Presse - I think all that points to expecting a good effort at least. Don’t start singing till wins in bag.
Per the BBC, P&O not liquidating, announcement will “secure future” and “has the support of existing owners”. So why must the ships remain in port for a few hours? Some insurance technicality?
Sounds like some sort of a bankruptcy followed by immediate asset sale. Could be insurance or legal technicality that requires vessels to be re-registered with the new entity by the authorities at the port.
It’s quite interesting contrasting France and the UK very generally on regional identity and separatism.
Both countries are a larger version of their original cores through war/conquest or absorption.
In the UK the “absorbed/conquered” parts have kept very strong visible identities and different levels of their own independent decision making away from London which have evolved over time but still have strong cultural identities and differences.
The degrees are wide from Scotland, Wales and NI to Cornish or Yorkshire identity.
France however had been very good/very brutal at suppressing the identities of their equivalents with a long focus on being totally “French”.
So whilst areas such as Brittany, Savoie and Basque pockets have independence movements they aren’t very strong and probably mirror Cornish independence movements.
Areas that weren’t historically “France” that aren’t Brittany and Savoie such as Aquitaine and Gascony are very much brought into the whole French demos.
It’s understandable why Corsica is more of an outlier as was always treated slightly badly by France in a cultural sneer kind of way - Napoleon was mocked non stop at military school for being a Corsican, treated like an educated monkey.
I would be surprised if this was a larger issue for France but interesting to see how it pans out.
True, but didn't stop the French making him an emperor! And the "educated monkey" rewrote their constitution on his days off from conquering most of Europe.
Do the French still have that mocking attitude to Corsica?
To be honest I’m not sure how modern French see Corsicans but at the time of Napoleon it was seen as very backwards and different - I would guess very much like how a lot of English viewed Ireland and the Irish at the same time. Interesting that Napoleon and Wellington were both from places that were looked down on by the people who worshipped them later!
It’s a known phenomenon. The outsider - usually middle or lower middle class - aspires to take over the metropole, and is more patriotic than the posher types in the capital
By contrast, religious or nihilistic revolutionaries tend to come from the upper middle or upper classes. Buddha. Bin Laden. Muhammad. Corbyn
Totally O/T, we have just priced for installing a new ASHP heating/hot water system in a small infants school. The school currently has an old oil fired boiler which will need removing. Normally we replace this with a modern gas boiler and new control panel. The average cost for such a project is around £65k
The ASHP system for this small school requires 4 outdoor units and 11 indoor units, the pipework throughout the school has to be doubled in size as do the radiators. Significant building works are required to house all the new equipment. The electrical supply to the school has to be upgraded to 185mm cable to cope with the hugh increase in electricity required to power all the new equipment. And the funniest part is that the job includes for the installing of a small gas boiler as back up as they know the new system will not work.
Our quote for the job is £410k.
Its no wonder other Councils are abandoning the idea of ASHPs to heat their buildings.
This and other bits of information that emerge suggest that on the whole with ASHP those unless you are very technically expert, don't be an early adopter. I slightly wonder whether it would be more efficient, because of the simplicity, in 50,000,000 UK locations to use renewables to generate vastly more electricity than presently and use it directly to heat, as with old fashioned electric water heaters, radiators etc. Much less efficient with electricity, but much more efficient in mass installation of systems.
Bring back storage heaters? Top up when the wind is blowing, no-one else needs the electricity and when it's cheap? With smart meters and better heat retention in the heaters a cheap and simple solution could work, perhaps?
I lived in a house with storage heaters in the late 90s. They were bloody useless. The house was blisteringly hot between about 9pm and 11am, and freezing thereafter. They seemed able to store heat for no more than about 2 hours. Presumably they have improved since.
I had a similar experience when I first moved to London a couple of decades ago, and briefly stayed in an empty council flat that was being prepared for sale. In many cases, the heaters would be roasting hot at night-time, necessitating the opening of every window in the middle of winter. By 5am they would cease emitting heat, thus making the emergence from bed a harrowing, freezing experience.
Interesting to see from the FT that the UK supplies to Ukraine appear limited to anti-armour weapons, medical supplies, and clothing, as also are many other countries. Whereas much of the EU is also supplying small arms and ammunition, and several are supplying anti-aircraft kit, artillery and shells, with Germany also supplying armoured vehicles.
The largest UK contribution is the anti-tank NLAW, somewhere around 20,000 of them.
3,615 NLAW to Ukraine from the UK.
It's Biden who's doing the big loot drops now.
Lol.
Well 3,615 could be described as somewhere around 20,000.
I found yesterday quite cathartic bizarrely. Why? Well I am clearly not a fan of Thatcher, but I found myself defending her from @HYUFD mad demonic catagorisation of her. This was a new and refreshing experience for me. The more I thought about it the more I thought about the fact that (with the exception of Tebbit) the Thatcher Govt was made up of grown ups regardless of what I thought of their policies. Made me feel much happier.
No doubt my bubble will be burst by examples of idiots from that era, but currently I'm very relaxed in my view.
Tebbit was tough and had guts, so no wonder you were not a fan
Oh you want to carry on do you, even though it ruined your evening?
As pointed out by others your last post last night must have been the most ironic statement ever made in history. It was mindbogglingly you have so little self awareness.
It was the truth and if it annoyed you tough
What you posted about Vulcans plural being on the Falklands and available to bomb Argentina was laughable, demonstrable bollocks. See the image posted upthread as to the herculean efforts to get a single Vulcan over - not on - the Falklands to bomb the runway.
"It was the truth". Are you really this self-inflated?
We also had Sea Darts and Sea Wolfs to defend our ships going over there.
It was a war of self defence after British territory was invaded, all armour potentially could have been used against the Argentines which they should have known when they invaded.
We also of course had submarines with missiles which could have been parked off the Argentine coast until they withdrew. That is war
This is laughable. Do keep going. A wonderful advert for your party.
He said all this last night. With the exception of sea dart the rest is nonsense.
Per the BBC, P&O not liquidating, announcement will “secure future” and “has the support of existing owners”. So why must the ships remain in port for a few hours? Some insurance technicality?
Sounds like some sort of a bankruptcy followed by immediate asset sale. Could be insurance or legal technicality that requires vessels to be re-registered with the new entity by the authorities at the port.
Even the Russians need to practice dispersal of their people. Except that they are being dispersed to bases that NATO already knows about and would be primary 3C targets if this all kicked off.
So lets all calm back down, they aren't about to start a nuclear war.
It’s quite interesting contrasting France and the UK very generally on regional identity and separatism.
Both countries are a larger version of their original cores through war/conquest or absorption.
In the UK the “absorbed/conquered” parts have kept very strong visible identities and different levels of their own independent decision making away from London which have evolved over time but still have strong cultural identities and differences.
The degrees are wide from Scotland, Wales and NI to Cornish or Yorkshire identity.
France however had been very good/very brutal at suppressing the identities of their equivalents with a long focus on being totally “French”.
So whilst areas such as Brittany, Savoie and Basque pockets have independence movements they aren’t very strong and probably mirror Cornish independence movements.
Areas that weren’t historically “France” that aren’t Brittany and Savoie such as Aquitaine and Gascony are very much brought into the whole French demos.
It’s understandable why Corsica is more of an outlier as was always treated slightly badly by France in a cultural sneer kind of way - Napoleon was mocked non stop at military school for being a Corsican, treated like an educated monkey.
I would be surprised if this was a larger issue for France but interesting to see how it pans out.
True, but didn't stop the French making him an emperor! And the "educated monkey" rewrote their constitution on his days off from conquering most of Europe.
Do the French still have that mocking attitude to Corsica?
To be honest I’m not sure how modern French see Corsicans but at the time of Napoleon it was seen as very backwards and different - I would guess very much like how a lot of English viewed Ireland and the Irish at the same time. Interesting that Napoleon and Wellington were both from places that were looked down on by the people who worshipped them later!
It’s a known phenomenon. The outsider - usually middle or lower middle class - aspires to take over the metropole, and is more patriotic than the posher types in the capital
By contrast, religious or nihilistic revolutionaries tend to come from the upper middle or upper classes. Buddha. Bin Laden. Muhammad. Corbyn
And the chaps who go up to Oxford/Cambridge and suddenly start wearing tweeds and changing their accent morphing into Sebastian Flyte meets JRM and becoming more “public schoolboy” than the actual public school boys.
“The potency of Ketamine is such it can make a barrister’s son from Windsor believe he is someone called ‘DJ Che Headfuck’ and organise dubstep raves in pub skittle alleys that smell of piss.
“Besides an obsession with ‘free parties’ and evil-looking mongrel dogs called things like Bender, there is a general sense of existing outside of the capitalist ‘regime’.
“Apparently the buying and selling of drugs isn’t a capitalist transaction if you either spend the money on Special Brew or just lose it down the back of a car seat.”
Per the BBC, P&O not liquidating, announcement will “secure future” and “has the support of existing owners”. So why must the ships remain in port for a few hours? Some insurance technicality?
Don't think so (I used to do marine insurance law, and can't think what the technicality would be). More likely fear of arrest by suppliers, e.g. if they are getting fuel on tick from French bunkering agents. french courts are pretty third world in Fr plaintiff vs Anglo Saxon defendant claims and couldeasily authorise arrest if the Fr suppliers think the restructuring or whatever jeopardises their claims.
Could all be precipitated by the oil price hike on top of covid.
Interesting to see from the FT that the UK supplies to Ukraine appear limited to anti-armour weapons, medical supplies, and clothing, as also are many other countries. Whereas much of the EU is also supplying small arms and ammunition, and several are supplying anti-aircraft kit, artillery and shells, with Germany also supplying armoured vehicles.
The largest UK contribution is the anti-tank NLAW, somewhere around 20,000 of them.
3,615 NLAW to Ukraine from the UK.
It's Biden who's doing the big loot drops now.
Ah okay, maybe 20k was the total rather than the UK donation. My bad.
Yes, the US are getting going with the kit now, which should help things along a bit (to put it mildly).
Interesting to see from the FT that the UK supplies to Ukraine appear limited to anti-armour weapons, medical supplies, and clothing, as also are many other countries. Whereas much of the EU is also supplying small arms and ammunition, and several are supplying anti-aircraft kit, artillery and shells, with Germany also supplying armoured vehicles.
The largest UK contribution is the anti-tank NLAW, somewhere around 20,000 of them.
3,615 NLAW to Ukraine from the UK.
It's Biden who's doing the big loot drops now.
Ah okay, maybe 20k was the total rather than the UK donation. My bad.
Yes, the US are getting going with the kit now, which should help things along a bit (to put it mildly).
3,615 as of 9 March. So probably higher now (but only a bit)
I found yesterday quite cathartic bizarrely. Why? Well I am clearly not a fan of Thatcher, but I found myself defending her from @HYUFD mad demonic catagorisation of her. This was a new and refreshing experience for me. The more I thought about it the more I thought about the fact that (with the exception of Tebbit) the Thatcher Govt was made up of grown ups regardless of what I thought of their policies. Made me feel much happier.
No doubt my bubble will be burst by examples of idiots from that era, but currently I'm very relaxed in my view.
Not dissimilar attitudes as some of the current Met officers. Havers drew controversy at the outset of the trial, when he said of Sutcliffe's victims in his introductory speech: "Some were prostitutes, but perhaps the saddest part of the case is that some were not. The last six attacks were on totally respectable women."...
You go through life thinking nothing much changes day to day, and then remember something like that. The past is a foreign country.
Read David Peace's Red Riding novels, if you want to revisit. Relentlessly grim, but they do give an authentic flavour of the time.
Interesting to see from the FT that the UK supplies to Ukraine appear limited to anti-armour weapons, medical supplies, and clothing, as also are many other countries. Whereas much of the EU is also supplying small arms and ammunition, and several are supplying anti-aircraft kit, artillery and shells, with Germany also supplying armoured vehicles.
The largest UK contribution is the anti-tank NLAW, somewhere around 20,000 of them.
3,615 NLAW to Ukraine from the UK.
It's Biden who's doing the big loot drops now.
Ah okay, maybe 20k was the total rather than the UK donation. My bad.
Yes, the US are getting going with the kit now, which should help things along a bit (to put it mildly).
I think 20K was the total UK buy.
I have heard that the Thales factory in NI is rather busy. Between this and the Starstreak thing, they will be having a good war.
It’s quite interesting contrasting France and the UK very generally on regional identity and separatism.
Both countries are a larger version of their original cores through war/conquest or absorption.
In the UK the “absorbed/conquered” parts have kept very strong visible identities and different levels of their own independent decision making away from London which have evolved over time but still have strong cultural identities and differences.
The degrees are wide from Scotland, Wales and NI to Cornish or Yorkshire identity.
France however had been very good/very brutal at suppressing the identities of their equivalents with a long focus on being totally “French”.
So whilst areas such as Brittany, Savoie and Basque pockets have independence movements they aren’t very strong and probably mirror Cornish independence movements.
Areas that weren’t historically “France” that aren’t Brittany and Savoie such as Aquitaine and Gascony are very much brought into the whole French demos.
It’s understandable why Corsica is more of an outlier as was always treated slightly badly by France in a cultural sneer kind of way - Napoleon was mocked non stop at military school for being a Corsican, treated like an educated monkey.
I would be surprised if this was a larger issue for France but interesting to see how it pans out.
True, but didn't stop the French making him an emperor! And the "educated monkey" rewrote their constitution on his days off from conquering most of Europe.
Do the French still have that mocking attitude to Corsica?
To be honest I’m not sure how modern French see Corsicans but at the time of Napoleon it was seen as very backwards and different - I would guess very much like how a lot of English viewed Ireland and the Irish at the same time. Interesting that Napoleon and Wellington were both from places that were looked down on by the people who worshipped them later!
It’s a known phenomenon. The outsider - usually middle or lower middle class - aspires to take over the metropole, and is more patriotic than the posher types in the capital
By contrast, religious or nihilistic revolutionaries tend to come from the upper middle or upper classes. Buddha. Bin Laden. Muhammad. Corbyn
Che Guevara (in the second list)
Where does Jesus fit in?
Edit; just seen Sunil's asked there same question. But son (?) of a tradesman; lower-middle class?
Per the BBC, P&O not liquidating, announcement will “secure future” and “has the support of existing owners”. So why must the ships remain in port for a few hours? Some insurance technicality?
Sounds like some sort of a bankruptcy followed by immediate asset sale. Could be insurance or legal technicality that requires vessels to be re-registered with the new entity by the authorities at the port.
Got to be
Nope. fear of saisie conservatoire by garlic chewing scoundrels across the channel for unpaid debts.
Morad Tahbaz holds dual British and American citizenship. He lives mostly in the US, which is why the US State Dept. was making the case for him.
He was released as part of this deal.
Which has nothing to do with the substantive issue, which is that the British Government is not operating an independent foreign policy.
You mean having a foreign policy which it coordinates with others?
Yes, that is crazy. That kind of thinking leads to signing treaties with other countries about trade, immigration, common standards.....
There was a big discussion about this recently. Can't remember the exact topic.
The word 'coordinating' is doing a great deal of heavy lifting in that sentence, and you know it. The fact is that Ratcliffe has languished in Iran for 6 extra months because the British Government was forbidden by a foreign government from buying the freedom of a British subject. The US would not have dreamed of 'coordinating' their foreign policy with us in this manner. That should make us all deeply troubled and not a little ashamed. But it will be ignored, because it's too uncomfortable.
My nags for today , had poor day yesterday with non runners and others being donkeys. Tough racing today , winners will be hard to come by. @moonrabbit@stodge@ping
EW Patent Sire Du Berlais 14:10 Cheltenham Champ 15:30 Cheltenham Imperial Alcazar 16:10 Cheltenham
Singles EW Sire Du Berlais 14:10 Cheltenham Champ 15:30 Cheltenham Imperial Alcazar 16:10 Cheltenham
Morning Malc just as well I go to Cheltenham for the booze and socialising racing not the money (although I did back Facile Vega as in an RP article prior to the meeting Willie Mullins, discussing his chances, had said of it "of all the runners I have I would want to be on Facile Vega..." which sounded pretty emphatic to me!)
Yesterday was a cracking day, that said. Quite surreal with essentially a morass of horses moving around the track everyone looking grey and brown behind the front runners. Shishkin didn't travel a yard and I'm not going to get into the should they/shouldn't they have watered debate - suffice to say that rain was showing on all weather apps on the Weds for days and yet unwatered/rained upon the ground would have probably been good/good to firm... Who'd be clerk of the course.
Equally it was a good advert for honest racing to see Delta Work win when we were all imagining what would have happened in F1 with Jack Kennedy receiving instructions through his comms system to let Tiger Roll pass. The biggest mystery continues to be what the cross country race is for, that said.
Have a great day today.
So much booing for Delta Work! I don’t know how much you saw of the winning parade Topping, the horse was cross, reacting at the booing with longest face, chomping the bit, pulling towards the crowd trying to get in the enclosure and bite them! All the horses managed a slippery cross country very well. My horse came nowhere in it, there was a moment just after they had got over the bannisters with Mrs miggins garden gate and the duck pond to come I thought mine got a nudge.
People are quick to say the booing was in good spirits but I didn't hear anything as I wasn't in that area.
Not sure how slippery the x-country course was, it looked like the ground was pretty good vs the main course but as I said I'm not entirely sure I see the point of the race. As for the timber to sober you up it is worth watching some runnings of the Maryland Hunt Cup and marvel at them flying those pretty solid obstacles.
It’s quite interesting contrasting France and the UK very generally on regional identity and separatism.
Both countries are a larger version of their original cores through war/conquest or absorption.
In the UK the “absorbed/conquered” parts have kept very strong visible identities and different levels of their own independent decision making away from London which have evolved over time but still have strong cultural identities and differences.
The degrees are wide from Scotland, Wales and NI to Cornish or Yorkshire identity.
France however had been very good/very brutal at suppressing the identities of their equivalents with a long focus on being totally “French”.
So whilst areas such as Brittany, Savoie and Basque pockets have independence movements they aren’t very strong and probably mirror Cornish independence movements.
Areas that weren’t historically “France” that aren’t Brittany and Savoie such as Aquitaine and Gascony are very much brought into the whole French demos.
It’s understandable why Corsica is more of an outlier as was always treated slightly badly by France in a cultural sneer kind of way - Napoleon was mocked non stop at military school for being a Corsican, treated like an educated monkey.
I would be surprised if this was a larger issue for France but interesting to see how it pans out.
True, but didn't stop the French making him an emperor! And the "educated monkey" rewrote their constitution on his days off from conquering most of Europe.
Do the French still have that mocking attitude to Corsica?
To be honest I’m not sure how modern French see Corsicans but at the time of Napoleon it was seen as very backwards and different - I would guess very much like how a lot of English viewed Ireland and the Irish at the same time. Interesting that Napoleon and Wellington were both from places that were looked down on by the people who worshipped them later!
It’s a known phenomenon. The outsider - usually middle or lower middle class - aspires to take over the metropole, and is more patriotic than the posher types in the capital
By contrast, religious or nihilistic revolutionaries tend to come from the upper middle or upper classes. Buddha. Bin Laden. Muhammad. Corbyn
Che Guevara (in the second list)
Where does Jesus fit in?
File under “fucked up kid”
Your father is absent, yet omnipresent. That’s gonna mess with yo head
It’s quite interesting contrasting France and the UK very generally on regional identity and separatism.
Both countries are a larger version of their original cores through war/conquest or absorption.
In the UK the “absorbed/conquered” parts have kept very strong visible identities and different levels of their own independent decision making away from London which have evolved over time but still have strong cultural identities and differences.
The degrees are wide from Scotland, Wales and NI to Cornish or Yorkshire identity.
France however had been very good/very brutal at suppressing the identities of their equivalents with a long focus on being totally “French”.
So whilst areas such as Brittany, Savoie and Basque pockets have independence movements they aren’t very strong and probably mirror Cornish independence movements.
Areas that weren’t historically “France” that aren’t Brittany and Savoie such as Aquitaine and Gascony are very much brought into the whole French demos.
It’s understandable why Corsica is more of an outlier as was always treated slightly badly by France in a cultural sneer kind of way - Napoleon was mocked non stop at military school for being a Corsican, treated like an educated monkey.
I would be surprised if this was a larger issue for France but interesting to see how it pans out.
True, but didn't stop the French making him an emperor! And the "educated monkey" rewrote their constitution on his days off from conquering most of Europe.
Do the French still have that mocking attitude to Corsica?
To be honest I’m not sure how modern French see Corsicans but at the time of Napoleon it was seen as very backwards and different - I would guess very much like how a lot of English viewed Ireland and the Irish at the same time. Interesting that Napoleon and Wellington were both from places that were looked down on by the people who worshipped them later!
It’s a known phenomenon. The outsider - usually middle or lower middle class - aspires to take over the metropole, and is more patriotic than the posher types in the capital
By contrast, religious or nihilistic revolutionaries tend to come from the upper middle or upper classes. Buddha. Bin Laden. Muhammad. Corbyn
Che Guevara (in the second list)
Where does Jesus fit in?
depends if Joseph was a carpenter carpenter or a Lord Linley carpenter. Could be the latter if "Born of David's line" is right in the carol.
Per the BBC, P&O not liquidating, announcement will “secure future” and “has the support of existing owners”. So why must the ships remain in port for a few hours? Some insurance technicality?
Sounds like some sort of a bankruptcy followed by immediate asset sale. Could be insurance or legal technicality that requires vessels to be re-registered with the new entity by the authorities at the port.
Got to be
Nope. fear of saisie conservatoire by garlic chewing scoundrels across the channel for unpaid debts.
Per the BBC, P&O not liquidating, announcement will “secure future” and “has the support of existing owners”. So why must the ships remain in port for a few hours? Some insurance technicality?
Sounds like some sort of a bankruptcy followed by immediate asset sale. Could be insurance or legal technicality that requires vessels to be re-registered with the new entity by the authorities at the port.
Got to be
Nope. fear of saisie conservatoire by garlic chewing scoundrels across the channel for unpaid debts.
Morad Tahbaz holds dual British and American citizenship. He lives mostly in the US, which is why the US State Dept. was making the case for him.
He was released as part of this deal.
Which has nothing to do with the substantive issue, which is that the British Government is not operating an independent foreign policy.
You mean having a foreign policy which it coordinates with others?
Yes, that is crazy. That kind of thinking leads to signing treaties with other countries about trade, immigration, common standards.....
There was a big discussion about this recently. Can't remember the exact topic.
The word 'coordinating' is doing a great deal of heavy lifting in that sentence, and you know it. The fact is that Ratcliffe has languished in Iran for 6 extra months because the British Government was forbidden by a foreign Government from buying the freedom of a British subject. The US would not have dreamed of 'coordinating' their foreign policy with us in this manner. That should make us all deeply troubled and not a little ashamed. But it will be ignored, because it's too uncomfortable.
"Forbidden" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence - the UK government could have put the cash on a plane and ignored what the US government said.
Bloody hell, it's still 1982 on here, I see. How depressing.
Music's great though....
A very subjective opinion. 1982 to 1987 was for me the nadir of chart music, there was some good behind the scenes music but with a few notable exceptions, most of it was just throw away pop. I'd also include post 2010 as I hate most songs that use autotune*, but I am aware that my music knowledge of the last decade is so weak I cannot really form an objective opinion.
*my problem with autotune is not that singers are "cheating", but that it changes the harmonics of the voice and reduces the richness of the human voice. I've also heard the argument that many singers these days will just do two takes and rely on the production to clean up all the blemishes, whereas the traditional approach was to continue rerecording until you really hit that fawless performance.
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Men Joining Army In Wartime Expected To Fight Shock
Good for them signing up, but wtf did they expect? A couple of weeks Instagram opportunities and home to a hero's welcome?
Saw a house 2 days ago where the builder had put one in for the little old lady who lived there. In the loft conversion, he also did, you could see daylight in the storage cupboards in the eaves of the roof...
Scumbag....
I wonder what he thought those big noisy things were for?
‘You’re nothing, without me you’d be on the streets you ungrateful bitch.’
Let’s just call it a day and we can all move on.
Corsican.
When I met you
"It was the truth". Are you really this self-inflated?
top tip for anyone feeling like taking Zelensky's shilling:
buy 75in or larger QLED telly
watch first 30 minutes of Saving Private Ryan in HD on it
reconsider
https://twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/1504244193660571651
jawdropping, but actually also encouraging. A speech from a man who is in the bunker and knows it.
It made me the person I am today.. . (polishes axe).
Another good test stream was a picture of flames. Again, an image changing rapidly shows up artefacts. Now, where are the matches?
A number of RAF Tornado crew succumbed to late onset pacifism one the eve of Iraq 1. They were quietly ushered back to Germany for 'medical' reasons. These were people who gone through O&AS, IOT, EFT, BFT, TTTE, OCU, gone to a squadron and achieved 'Combat Ready' status. All of that took 5-7 years in which they were intensively conditioned in 'scenario fulfillment' (ie killing people) yet when the day came they couldn't...
Covid aping Contagion
Putin aping Downfall
Not looking forward to the real life remake of Independence Day however.
https://www.flightradar24.com/RSD079/2b2aad8c
And took you out of the EU
I’d say teuchter is more correct but am open to opinions on it.
I also recall that he had difficulty comparing those Russians who voted Communist 'because they wanted the Good Old Days' and people who voted Conservative in Britain for the same reason.
Couldn't get his head around the similarity, as I recall.
But he really looked after his wife after the Brighton atrocity.
Don't know what he have done if he'd actually passed his flying training.
https://www.tangmere-museum.org.uk/artefact-month/raf-vulcan-black-buck-missions-thirty-years-ago
We also had Sea Darts and Sea Wolfs to defend our ships going over there.
It was a war of self defence after British territory was invaded, all armour potentially could have been used against the Argentines which they should have known when they invaded.
We also of course had submarines with missiles which could have been parked off the Argentine coast until they withdrew. That is war
Britain intervened in Corsica in the 1790s!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Corsican_Kingdom
Presumably they have improved since.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Havers,_Baron_Havers
Not dissimilar attitudes as some of the current Met officers.
Havers drew controversy at the outset of the trial, when he said of Sutcliffe's victims in his introductory speech: "Some were prostitutes, but perhaps the saddest part of the case is that some were not. The last six attacks were on totally respectable women."...
An almost perfect film. Only Vasily Stalin lets it down.
Presumably one of them is Putin, and they don’t want us to know which one.
It’s a known phenomenon. The outsider - usually middle or lower middle class - aspires to take over the metropole, and is more patriotic than the posher types in the capital
By contrast, religious or nihilistic revolutionaries tend to come from the upper middle or upper classes. Buddha. Bin Laden. Muhammad. Corbyn
Would anyone in the class like to suggest what he is most likely to be trying to avoid by going to Siberia?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60774819?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=6232f85d980bea49f4b7ce5b&Help came too late, Zelensky tells German politicians&2022-03-17T09:07:57.106Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:92d42354-e8f0-43ba-bda3-2d0deb85cf75&pinned_post_asset_id=6232f85d980bea49f4b7ce5b&pinned_post_type=share
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has concluded his address to the German Bundestag in Berlin.
He thanked Germany for its assistance, but told lawmakers their support "came too late to stop war".
"Why does 'never again' not apply," he asked. "What is Germany's historic responsibility towards Ukraine today?".
Zelensky also criticised German leaders over the country's business interests in Russia.
"We could see your willingness to continue to do business with Russia and now we're in the middle of the cold war," Zelesnky said.
"And again this is something you have failed to see. You're still protecting yourself behind a wall that does not make it possible for you to see what we are going through."
He concluded by calling for Germany to tackle Russian aggression and impose harsher sanctions on Moscow. "Peace is more important than income," he told MPs.
"P&O Ferries is not going into liquidation. We have asked all ships to come alongside, in preparation for a company announcement. Until then, services from P&O will not be running and we are advising travellers of alternative arrangements."
And bloody good they’ve been too. Keep’em coming!
Each country has supplied what best they can, from Ukraine’s list of wants. They want equipment they know already, rather than something which will take time to train - hence the argument about the Polish MiG-29 planes, which are close to what Ukraine already flies.
dunno what to do about it, but if you want to sellotape brown paper over the windows there has never been a better time.
It's Biden who's doing the big loot drops now.
But despite boxes of non runners still huge fields for the two handicaps. I’ve spent hours trying to not miss something.
*Betting Post 🐎 Day 3
The drama continues. And it was drama yesterday, with weather forecasters getting Cotswold weather wrong, expecting no rain so they watered the course! And then it rained all day. The two big match ups probably ruined by the ground getting heavy. Many punters had probably selected on understanding good to soft or even ante bet on horses withdrawn last minute
I have the going as soft for today, my advice is bet opposite today than yesterday - I picked on Wednesday horses to win whose chances only improve if it gets softer. The rain has gone, it will dry with each passing hour of the festival, so I think no need to go for mudlarks, anticipate soft, softish in places, and on to good, soft in places on gold cup day.
I have four wins from 8 tips so far, but don’t go overboard on my tips today thinking I have form, I won’t! I don’t feel nearly as confident about three of them as yesterday. This is because the races look more open. A day to back with the head I think.
These are horses I am on today, and analysis why.
14:10 Sire Du Berlais
A case in point. A three mile handicap hurdle with 20+ riders on a drying track. But Sire Du Berlais is twice a winner of this race, in 2020 on soft year before good to soft, in both wins judged the race perfectly to be ahead at finish, and build up this season is clearly with this race in mind I think. There are other challengers, but the class and around the block knowledge we are investing into is good value for some sort of return.
14:50 Allaho NAP
Cool head says Something has to go wrong not to have at least one winner in our slip today. Betting forecast suggests pick e/w bet for second for better odds, but far too open race for second I think.
15:30 Champ
I ❤️ Champ but don’t let that put you off on a day for head over heart. There’s no problem with distance, maybe like it firmer going, form is always there for a wonder horse, and should be fresh. The problem is the opponents are worthy, so much so bookies and pundits have forsaken Champ, like something from High Noon. But this horse is a born winner, won’t go down without a fight. Join me on Champ and get set for the showdown. Don’t forsake me oh my darling 😍
16:10 The Glancing Queen
Now a 2m4f handicap chase with about 20 entrants. The Glancing Queen last start was on news years day at Cheltenham over this distance on soft, coming second to L'Homme Presse - I think all that points to expecting a good effort at least. Don’t start singing till wins in bag.
Good luck and have a great day.
Yes, that is crazy. That kind of thinking leads to signing treaties with other countries about trade, immigration, common standards.....
There was a big discussion about this recently. Can't remember the exact topic.
Did anyone, anywhere master them?
Well 3,615 could be described as somewhere around 20,000.
So lets all calm back down, they aren't about to start a nuclear war.
“The potency of Ketamine is such it can make a barrister’s son from Windsor believe he is someone called ‘DJ Che Headfuck’ and organise dubstep raves in pub skittle alleys that smell of piss.
“Besides an obsession with ‘free parties’ and evil-looking mongrel dogs called things like Bender, there is a general sense of existing outside of the capitalist ‘regime’.
“Apparently the buying and selling of drugs isn’t a capitalist transaction if you either spend the money on Special Brew or just lose it down the back of a car seat.”
Could all be precipitated by the oil price hike on top of covid.
Yes, the US are getting going with the kit now, which should help things along a bit (to put it mildly).
BBC report:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60779001
😶
Relentlessly grim, but they do give an authentic flavour of the time.
I have heard that the Thales factory in NI is rather busy. Between this and the Starstreak thing, they will be having a good war.
Edit; just seen Sunil's asked there same question. But son (?) of a tradesman; lower-middle class?
Not sure how slippery the x-country course was, it looked like the ground was pretty good vs the main course but as I said I'm not entirely sure I see the point of the race. As for the timber to sober you up it is worth watching some runnings of the Maryland Hunt Cup and marvel at them flying those pretty solid obstacles.
RSD3 looks like he’s landing at Kogalym, which from the map is 150km from any other airfield! Russia is a damn big place.
Your father is absent, yet omnipresent. That’s gonna mess with yo head
*my problem with autotune is not that singers are "cheating", but that it changes the harmonics of the voice and reduces the richness of the human voice. I've also heard the argument that many singers these days will just do two takes and rely on the production to clean up all the blemishes, whereas the traditional approach was to continue rerecording until you really hit that fawless performance.
2022 is great. And it’s still only March
Ian Austin/Telegraph forced into a humiliating and very expensive public apology about Labour staffer Laura Murray.
Looks like the tide's finally turning.
PB leaves itself open to action by allowing Posters such as Heathener to continue to call Corbyn an Anti Semite