Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
Not all workers or pensioners getting increases in line with inflation. Even those who do will pay tax at their highest rate on the increase so will be worse off in real terms
People's hard worked for savings being eroded
Bank of England doesn't seem bothered, no monetary policy control applied
People associate inflation with Labour and will think 'may as well vote for the real thing'!
😡😡😡😡😡
They do?
Of course we do. Correct me where I’m wrong It’s a tradition of British Politics. You only get inflation under Labour because they spend till there’s no money left, and award Union paymasters high wages for workers to perpetuate inflation. The Tory tradition is low wages to keep these things under control so businesses can investment more and grow the economy. You will never get proper Tories talking up high wages for everyone.
One day you will post something Inactually agree with. 🙂
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
Just because people choose a vocation doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to argue that that vocation deserves to be better rewarded or treated. Go that route and no one should be paid for a job they love, or a role that they think should not be driven by desire for wealth, since what other reward should they have than satisfaction of their calling, eh?
It is true that nor should people compare what they know going in is to be a less remunerated position as compared with the financial rewards of other professions, and they can consider seeking other opportunities instead, but nor should we make these sorts of roles so onerous or unattractive that even if people want to follow a calling they find it extremely hard to do it.
Not all workers or pensioners getting increases in line with inflation. Even those who do will pay tax at their highest rate on the increase so will be worse off in real terms
People's hard worked for savings being eroded
Bank of England doesn't seem bothered, no monetary policy control applied
People associate inflation with Labour and will think 'may as well vote for the real thing'!
😡😡😡😡😡
They do?
Yeah I wondered. I associate inflation with the 80s/90s Tory Government. Maybe it’s an age thing.
You're half right. It peaked (after the shenanigans of the 70s) around 1990 and has been fairly constant since then up until now.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
And then there is black market isn’t there? That 30% replaced by invisible 30%?
Except maybe not for social media influencers. Gosh I feel so sorry for them bawling their eyes out… NOT! 😈
Russia’s lost GDP is not going to be replaced by “the black market”
Putin is, in effect, inflicting damage on his economy equivalent to the wreckage from a world war. That chart says Belgium shrank by 32% from 1914-18
And he’s doing it in one single year, if that prediction pans out
Thank you. I’m not saying you are wrong in short term. Master and Margarita explained although communists took over things carried on as normal in some ways, with burgeoning black market/invisible market economy. That’s where I got it from.
“The viewer, as if spying through the keyhole, witnesses a personal show in which the most beautiful erotic icons of the classical period wink and show themselves off”
My goodness Leon, we do look after you on this site
Put £1 into the Vimeo slot to get all 7 minutes. I did 🤤
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Or of course you could leave PB and not have to read any comments I make criticising your friends in the government and their fraud and criminality.
This would have the further benefit you would no longer bore us with your pushing of Russian propaganda.
As I said, or you can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Thing is, I feel sorry for your students. To have someone teaching who hates their profession so much must be awful for them. Really affecting their life chances.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
Not all workers or pensioners getting increases in line with inflation. Even those who do will pay tax at their highest rate on the increase so will be worse off in real terms
People's hard worked for savings being eroded
Bank of England doesn't seem bothered, no monetary policy control applied
People associate inflation with Labour and will think 'may as well vote for the real thing'!
😡😡😡😡😡
They do?
Yeah I wondered. I associate inflation with the 80s/90s Tory Government. Maybe it’s an age thing.
Maybe it is an age thing!
That being said I am not sure CPI got to 5.4% at any time from 1997 to 2010.
It (ok RPI, no CPI then) certainly did 1974 to 1979!
It is interesting how our frames of reference are shaped by our past. For instance I will always be bitter about the LibDems because I liked the old Liberal Party.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming MPs, if that is the pension they want.
So then why did @HYUFD make the stupid comparison in the first place?
It is not stupid, the point remains teachers get a good pension compared to the average worker
and MPs?
Also worth nothing he still doesn’t understand why it’s silly to compare them to the “average worker”.
Why? The average teacher in the average comprehensive does not have qualifications vastly higher than the average worker
To away and look into how an average is calculated. Then look at the requirements to be a qualified teacher.
Edit - and I’m not even a great supporter of teachers wanting boosted pay!
You can become a comprehensive teacher with a 3rd class or 2 2 degree from a non Russell Group University.
You are unlikely to become an investment banker or MP with those qualifications.
You might still be able to inspire kids in the classroom but does not mean you should be a millionaire
Inspiring children is a far greater value to society than any investment banker and on the evidence of our mps having higher qualifications then shame that they are making such a mess of our politics
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
Not all workers or pensioners getting increases in line with inflation. Even those who do will pay tax at their highest rate on the increase so will be worse off in real terms
People's hard worked for savings being eroded
Bank of England doesn't seem bothered, no monetary policy control applied
People associate inflation with Labour and will think 'may as well vote for the real thing'!
😡😡😡😡😡
They do?
Yeah I wondered. I associate inflation with the 80s/90s Tory Government. Maybe it’s an age thing.
Maybe it is an age thing!
That being said I am not sure CPI got to 5.4% at any time from 1997 to 2010.
It (ok RPI, no CPI then) certainly did 1974 to 1979!
It is interesting how our frames of reference are shaped by our past. For instance I will always be bitter about the LibDems because I liked the old Liberal Party.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
@Tsihanouskaya This is the Kastus Kalinouski battalion – a volunteer group of Belarusians formed to defend Ukraine. As a part of our Anti-War Movement, more and more people from Belarus join to help Ukrainians defend their country. Because we #StandWithUkraine. Слава Україні! Жыве Беларусь!
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming MPs, if that is the pension they want.
So then why did @HYUFD make the stupid comparison in the first place?
It is not stupid, the point remains teachers get a good pension compared to the average worker
and MPs?
Also worth nothing he still doesn’t understand why it’s silly to compare them to the “average worker”.
Why? The average teacher in the average comprehensive does not have qualifications vastly higher than the average worker
To away and look into how an average is calculated. Then look at the requirements to be a qualified teacher.
Edit - and I’m not even a great supporter of teachers wanting boosted pay!
You can become a comprehensive teacher with a 3rd class or 2 2 degree from a non Russell Group University.
You are unlikely to become an investment banker or MP with those qualifications.
You might still be able to inspire kids in the classroom but does not mean you should be a millionaire
Inspiring children is a far greater value to society than any investment banker and on the evidence of our mps having higher qualifications then shame that they are making such a mess of our politics
I never said inspiring kids is not important but there is no reason state school teachers should be paid a fortune, ultimately by taxpayers
"Deputy Secretary of State Wendy R. Sherman told “Fox News Sunday” that Russian diplomats have started to show willingness to have “real, serious negotiations” to end the war in Ukraine, in part due to the crushing sanctions imposed on Russia's economy, but cautioned that President Vladimir V. Putin is still intent on continuing the war."
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Or of course you could leave PB and not have to read any comments I make criticising your friends in the government and their fraud and criminality.
This would have the further benefit you would no longer bore us with your pushing of Russian propaganda.
As I said, or you can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Thing is, I feel sorry for your students. To have someone teaching who hates their profession so much must be awful for them. Really affecting their life chances.
The sooner you leave teaching the better.
My dear Topping, I will leave teaching having been a great success and risen rapidly through the ranks rapidly, loved by my students and leaving because I refuse to work for criminals like Susan Acland Hood. I appreciate that wouldn't bother you.
You, however, left the Army on your own admission despised by your men, which is hardly surprising given you are a coward, a bully and a liar and particularly under the circumstances under which you left, and I feel sorry for those who served with you. Just today you spent all your time spouting about how expert you are on military matters while posting propaganda you haven't read or understood in a game of one upmanship.
I usually ignore your stupid posts because they add nothing to PB and frankly you come across as a truly revolting human being whom I and it seems most other posters have no wish to talk to, quite apart from the lies, including libels, which the mods have had to delete.
I'm quite happy to go back to ignoring you as long as you leave me alone too. Quite frankly I have better things to do with my time than engage with you.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Or of course you could leave PB and not have to read any comments I make criticising your friends in the government and their fraud and criminality.
This would have the further benefit you would no longer bore us with your pushing of Russian propaganda.
As I said, or you can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Thing is, I feel sorry for your students. To have someone teaching who hates their profession so much must be awful for them. Really affecting their life chances.
The sooner you leave teaching the better.
You have no clue at all, none, how good or bad a teacher @ydoethur is
I know that he constantly whinges about being a teacher, and has said he and everyone he knows is on the verge of leaving the profession. I also know he despises the DofE.
If someone so detests the profession they are in then I can't but think that it would be reasonably obvious to his students.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
I don't think the great issue of the day is the salary of teachers and civil servants.
It is for 450,000 civil servants and 600,000 teachers….
Plus their families.
Yep. But they will not win much sympathy for their cause if they push it when most people in the private sector - without their income security - are suffering more than they are, and when there is an existential struggle going on not far from our doorstep.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Or of course you could leave PB and not have to read any comments I make criticising your friends in the government and their fraud and criminality.
This would have the further benefit you would no longer bore us with your pushing of Russian propaganda.
As I said, or you can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Thing is, I feel sorry for your students. To have someone teaching who hates their profession so much must be awful for them. Really affecting their life chances.
The sooner you leave teaching the better.
And with one post, your true nature is revealed. Yuck.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Or of course you could leave PB and not have to read any comments I make criticising your friends in the government and their fraud and criminality.
This would have the further benefit you would no longer bore us with your pushing of Russian propaganda.
As I said, or you can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Thing is, I feel sorry for your students. To have someone teaching who hates their profession so much must be awful for them. Really affecting their life chances.
The sooner you leave teaching the better.
My dear Topping, I will leave teaching having been a great success and risen rapidly through the ranks rapidly, loved by my students and leaving because I refuse to work for criminals like Susan Acland Hood. I appreciate that wouldn't bother you.
You, however, left the Army on your own admission despised by your men, which is hardly surprising given you are a coward, a bully and a liar and particularly under the circumstances under which you left, and I feel sorry for those who served with you. Just today you spent all your time spouting about how expert you are on military matters while posting propaganda you haven't read or understood in a game of one upmanship.
I usually ignore your stupid posts because they add nothing to PB and frankly you come across as a truly revolting human being whom I and it seems most other posters have no wish to talk to, quite apart from the lies, including libels, which the mods have had to delete.
I'm quite happy to go back to ignoring you as long as you leave me alone too. Quite frankly I have better things to do with my time than engage with you.
Do we have a deal?
LOL.
Get on with it then. Hurry up and leave teaching. Everyone will be happier once you do.
Let us know when that happens.
Edit: what libels, btw, that mods have had to delete. Genuinely interested.
And then there is black market isn’t there? That 30% replaced by invisible 30%?
Except maybe not for social media influencers. Gosh I feel so sorry for them bawling their eyes out… NOT! 😈
Russia’s lost GDP is not going to be replaced by “the black market”
Putin is, in effect, inflicting damage on his economy equivalent to the wreckage from a world war. That chart says Belgium shrank by 32% from 1914-18
And he’s doing it in one single year, if that prediction pans out
Thank you. I’m not saying you are wrong in short term. Master and Margarita explained although communists took over things carried on as normal in some ways, with burgeoning black market/invisible market economy. That’s where I got it from.
“The viewer, as if spying through the keyhole, witnesses a personal show in which the most beautiful erotic icons of the classical period wink and show themselves off”
My goodness Leon, we do look after you on this site
Put £1 into the Vimeo slot to get all 7 minutes. I did 🤤
You can trust me to find things like that. ☺️
How he has brought Hudson River School landscapes to life for dorna advert is very magical too. If some of his Thomas Cole or Asher Durand animations went on for hours I would stare at it for hours, lake rippling, birds in sky, occasional deer hopping down for a drink.
Roaming or herding sheep. Take this detail from beeches, if this can’t sell bottled water nothing can 🥰
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Or of course you could leave PB and not have to read any comments I make criticising your friends in the government and their fraud and criminality.
This would have the further benefit you would no longer bore us with your pushing of Russian propaganda.
As I said, or you can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Thing is, I feel sorry for your students. To have someone teaching who hates their profession so much must be awful for them. Really affecting their life chances.
The sooner you leave teaching the better.
My dear Topping, I will leave teaching having been a great success and risen rapidly through the ranks rapidly, loved by my students and leaving because I refuse to work for criminals like Susan Acland Hood. I appreciate that wouldn't bother you.
You, however, left the Army on your own admission despised by your men, which is hardly surprising given you are a coward, a bully and a liar and particularly under the circumstances under which you left, and I feel sorry for those who served with you. Just today you spent all your time spouting about how expert you are on military matters while posting propaganda you haven't read or understood in a game of one upmanship.
I usually ignore your stupid posts because they add nothing to PB and frankly you come across as a truly revolting human being whom I and it seems most other posters have no wish to talk to, quite apart from the lies, including libels, which the mods have had to delete.
I'm quite happy to go back to ignoring you as long as you leave me alone too. Quite frankly I have better things to do with my time than engage with you.
Do we have a deal?
LOL.
Get on with it then. Hurry up and leave teaching. Everyone will be happier once you do.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming MPs, if that is the pension they want.
So then why did @HYUFD make the stupid comparison in the first place?
It is not stupid, the point remains teachers get a good pension compared to the average worker
and MPs?
Also worth nothing he still doesn’t understand why it’s silly to compare them to the “average worker”.
Why? The average teacher in the average comprehensive does not have qualifications vastly higher than the average worker
To away and look into how an average is calculated. Then look at the requirements to be a qualified teacher.
Edit - and I’m not even a great supporter of teachers wanting boosted pay!
You can become a comprehensive teacher with a 3rd class or 2 2 degree from a non Russell Group University.
You are unlikely to become an investment banker or MP with those qualifications.
You might still be able to inspire kids in the classroom but does not mean you should be a millionaire
You mean, like Priti Patel?
She did economics at Keele and any evidence she got a third?
Keele AIUI isn't Russell Group!
And I can't find the class of her degree, though ti can't have been bad as she did postgraduate study in British government and politics at University of Essex - a MPP apparently not a research degree.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming MPs, if that is the pension they want.
So then why did @HYUFD make the stupid comparison in the first place?
It is not stupid, the point remains teachers get a good pension compared to the average worker
and MPs?
Also worth nothing he still doesn’t understand why it’s silly to compare them to the “average worker”.
Why? The average teacher in the average comprehensive does not have qualifications vastly higher than the average worker
To away and look into how an average is calculated. Then look at the requirements to be a qualified teacher.
Edit - and I’m not even a great supporter of teachers wanting boosted pay!
You can become a comprehensive teacher with a 3rd class or 2 2 degree from a non Russell Group University.
You are unlikely to become an investment banker or MP with those qualifications.
You might still be able to inspire kids in the classroom but does not mean you should be a millionaire
You mean, like Priti Patel?
She did economics at Keele and any evidence she got a third?
Keele AIUI isn't Russell Group!
And I can't find the class of her degree, though ti can't have been bad as she did postgraduate study in British government and politics at University of Essex - a MPP apparently not a research degree.
A 2:2 would be accepted for that, although I think it was a 2:1.
@DanielKorski Perhaps Ukraine should be invited to join The Commonwealth @BorisJohnson? Ukraine should become an EU member but the bloc struggles to swap its technocratic model of accession for a strategic move. Inviting Ukraine to The @commonwealthsec would be a valuable signal of support
It's essentially open to anyone these days, but not sure it comes with the sort of power backup they are looking for right now.
Nor the financial clout, the support of which Ukraine is going to need in pretty much any future scenario. I'm open to correction but I'd be surprised if the vast majority of Ukrainians know of the existence of the Commonwealth, let alone the valuable 'symbolism' of membership.
Don't even get to meet the Queen thesedays what with her needing a break from things, so lacks some glamour.
Well, they sure aint shouting 'God save the Duke of Rothesay and Patricia Scotland' when they fire off their NLAWs.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Or of course you could leave PB and not have to read any comments I make criticising your friends in the government and their fraud and criminality.
This would have the further benefit you would no longer bore us with your pushing of Russian propaganda.
As I said, or you can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Thing is, I feel sorry for your students. To have someone teaching who hates their profession so much must be awful for them. Really affecting their life chances.
The sooner you leave teaching the better.
My dear Topping, I will leave teaching having been a great success and risen rapidly through the ranks rapidly, loved by my students and leaving because I refuse to work for criminals like Susan Acland Hood. I appreciate that wouldn't bother you.
You, however, left the Army on your own admission despised by your men, which is hardly surprising given you are a coward, a bully and a liar and particularly under the circumstances under which you left, and I feel sorry for those who served with you. Just today you spent all your time spouting about how expert you are on military matters while posting propaganda you haven't read or understood in a game of one upmanship.
I usually ignore your stupid posts because they add nothing to PB and frankly you come across as a truly revolting human being whom I and it seems most other posters have no wish to talk to, quite apart from the lies, including libels, which the mods have had to delete.
I'm quite happy to go back to ignoring you as long as you leave me alone too. Quite frankly I have better things to do with my time than engage with you.
Do we have a deal?
LOL.
Get on with it then. Hurry up and leave teaching. Everyone will be happier once you do.
Let us know when that happens.
Is that a no?
You missed my edit about the libels. V interested to know what they were that the mods had to delete. Perhaps you can teach me something albeit it is unlikely.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
I don't think the great issue of the day is the salary of teachers and civil servants.
It is for 450,000 civil servants and 600,000 teachers….
Plus their families.
Yep. But they will not win much sympathy for their cause if they push it when most people in the private sector - without their income security - are suffering more than they are, and when there is an existential struggle going on not far from our doorstep.
I agree, but it doesn’t mean they won’t be worried about it. Also that point would have a bit more strength if this Government had show at least some interest in inflation matching pay rises when the private sector was exceeding them and the economy picking up…
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Or of course you could leave PB and not have to read any comments I make criticising your friends in the government and their fraud and criminality.
This would have the further benefit you would no longer bore us with your pushing of Russian propaganda.
As I said, or you can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Thing is, I feel sorry for your students. To have someone teaching who hates their profession so much must be awful for them. Really affecting their life chances.
The sooner you leave teaching the better.
And with one post, your true nature is revealed. Yuck.
Just the one? Blimey were all my efforts this morning in vain?
@Tsihanouskaya This is the Kastus Kalinouski battalion – a volunteer group of Belarusians formed to defend Ukraine. As a part of our Anti-War Movement, more and more people from Belarus join to help Ukrainians defend their country. Because we #StandWithUkraine. Слава Україні! Жыве Беларусь!
If we are entering a new cold war, and it appears we are, then willingness to train up rebel groups in proxy conflicts (this one is more adjacent than proxy admittedly) may well be on the increase.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Or of course you could leave PB and not have to read any comments I make criticising your friends in the government and their fraud and criminality.
This would have the further benefit you would no longer bore us with your pushing of Russian propaganda.
As I said, or you can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Thing is, I feel sorry for your students. To have someone teaching who hates their profession so much must be awful for them. Really affecting their life chances.
The sooner you leave teaching the better.
My dear Topping, I will leave teaching having been a great success and risen rapidly through the ranks rapidly, loved by my students and leaving because I refuse to work for criminals like Susan Acland Hood. I appreciate that wouldn't bother you.
You, however, left the Army on your own admission despised by your men, which is hardly surprising given you are a coward, a bully and a liar and particularly under the circumstances under which you left, and I feel sorry for those who served with you. Just today you spent all your time spouting about how expert you are on military matters while posting propaganda you haven't read or understood in a game of one upmanship.
I usually ignore your stupid posts because they add nothing to PB and frankly you come across as a truly revolting human being whom I and it seems most other posters have no wish to talk to, quite apart from the lies, including libels, which the mods have had to delete.
I'm quite happy to go back to ignoring you as long as you leave me alone too. Quite frankly I have better things to do with my time than engage with you.
Do we have a deal?
LOL.
Get on with it then. Hurry up and leave teaching. Everyone will be happier once you do.
Let us know when that happens.
Is that a no?
You missed my edit about the libels. V interested to know what they were that the mods had to delete. Perhaps you can teach me something albeit it is unlikely.
I tend not to bother reading your posts in detail. You know what the libel was. Unless you are as stupid as you come across which I suppose is possible.
One question for you. If I am such a bad teacher, why are people willing to pay large sums of money for me to act as a private tutor?
It's not as though anyone is paying you for your military insights...
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
@DanielKorski Perhaps Ukraine should be invited to join The Commonwealth @BorisJohnson? Ukraine should become an EU member but the bloc struggles to swap its technocratic model of accession for a strategic move. Inviting Ukraine to The @commonwealthsec would be a valuable signal of support
It's essentially open to anyone these days, but not sure it comes with the sort of power backup they are looking for right now.
Nor the financial clout, the support of which Ukraine is going to need in pretty much any future scenario. I'm open to correction but I'd be surprised if the vast majority of Ukrainians know of the existence of the Commonwealth, let alone the valuable 'symbolism' of membership.
Don't even get to meet the Queen thesedays what with her needing a break from things, so lacks some glamour.
Well, they sure aint shouting 'God save the Duke of Rothesay and Patricia Scotland' when they fire off their NLAWs.
I don't think they shout 'God Save [Patricia] Scotland' at the Commonwealth Secretariat or the FCDO either in fairness, given reported efforts to shift her.
@DanielKorski Perhaps Ukraine should be invited to join The Commonwealth @BorisJohnson? Ukraine should become an EU member but the bloc struggles to swap its technocratic model of accession for a strategic move. Inviting Ukraine to The @commonwealthsec would be a valuable signal of support
It's essentially open to anyone these days, but not sure it comes with the sort of power backup they are looking for right now.
Nor the financial clout, the support of which Ukraine is going to need in pretty much any future scenario. I'm open to correction but I'd be surprised if the vast majority of Ukrainians know of the existence of the Commonwealth, let alone the valuable 'symbolism' of membership.
Don't even get to meet the Queen thesedays what with her needing a break from things, so lacks some glamour.
Well, they sure aint shouting 'God save the Duke of Rothesay and Patricia Scotland' when they fire off their NLAWs.
Pleased to note this morning that the NLAW delivers a 454g payload. Thank God we Brexited before Brussels discovered this.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Or of course you could leave PB and not have to read any comments I make criticising your friends in the government and their fraud and criminality.
This would have the further benefit you would no longer bore us with your pushing of Russian propaganda.
As I said, or you can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Thing is, I feel sorry for your students. To have someone teaching who hates their profession so much must be awful for them. Really affecting their life chances.
The sooner you leave teaching the better.
My dear Topping, I will leave teaching having been a great success and risen rapidly through the ranks rapidly, loved by my students and leaving because I refuse to work for criminals like Susan Acland Hood. I appreciate that wouldn't bother you.
You, however, left the Army on your own admission despised by your men, which is hardly surprising given you are a coward, a bully and a liar and particularly under the circumstances under which you left, and I feel sorry for those who served with you. Just today you spent all your time spouting about how expert you are on military matters while posting propaganda you haven't read or understood in a game of one upmanship.
I usually ignore your stupid posts because they add nothing to PB and frankly you come across as a truly revolting human being whom I and it seems most other posters have no wish to talk to, quite apart from the lies, including libels, which the mods have had to delete.
I'm quite happy to go back to ignoring you as long as you leave me alone too. Quite frankly I have better things to do with my time than engage with you.
Do we have a deal?
LOL.
Get on with it then. Hurry up and leave teaching. Everyone will be happier once you do.
Let us know when that happens.
Is that a no?
You missed my edit about the libels. V interested to know what they were that the mods had to delete. Perhaps you can teach me something albeit it is unlikely.
I tend not to bother reading your posts in detail. You know what the libel was. Unless you are as stupid as you come across which I suppose is possible.
One question for you. If I am such a bad teacher, why are people willing to pay large sums of money for me to act as a private tutor?
It's not as though anyone is paying you for your military insights...
As I said I genuinely don't know what you are talking about wrt the libel. I will ask @rcs1000 what it is just to ensure I don't repeat it.
And also, I am some random internet guy; you really don't have to try to justify your worth to me by telling me how valuable you apparently are. Even if it's true.
I don't think the great issue of the day is the salary of teachers and civil servants.
It is for 450,000 civil servants and 600,000 teachers….
Plus their families.
Yep. But they will not win much sympathy for their cause if they push it when most people in the private sector - without their income security - are suffering more than they are, and when there is an existential struggle going on not far from our doorstep.
I was easy about not getting a pay rise last year. I was paid in full throughout the pandemic and enjoyed the opportunity to work from home. Did some overtime. Ended up feeling flush as obviously there wasn't much to spend money on. This year is going to bite though. Although I'm taking the opportunity to dump some money into the mortgage and I pay off a loan in July that will make me a couple of hundred pounds a month better off.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
I taught for 33 years before retiring at 55 and remain very comfortably off on my index linked pension. I can also testify from my experience that working long hours marking is simply unnecessary most of the time. Show me a truly overworked teacher and what you have is someone with an inability to prioritise and organise their time - better suited to another profession. I loved my time in the classroom and staffroom - the long holidays were a great bonus and excellent prep for a, so far, long and contented retirement. Oh and btw whingeing teachers date back to the old stone age classroom - all part of the gaiety of the profession...
@Tsihanouskaya This is the Kastus Kalinouski battalion – a volunteer group of Belarusians formed to defend Ukraine. As a part of our Anti-War Movement, more and more people from Belarus join to help Ukrainians defend their country. Because we #StandWithUkraine. Слава Україні! Жыве Беларусь!
If we are entering a new cold war, and it appears we are, then willingness to train up rebel groups in proxy conflicts (this one is more adjacent than proxy admittedly) may well be on the increase.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Or of course you could leave PB and not have to read any comments I make criticising your friends in the government and their fraud and criminality.
This would have the further benefit you would no longer bore us with your pushing of Russian propaganda.
As I said, or you can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Thing is, I feel sorry for your students. To have someone teaching who hates their profession so much must be awful for them. Really affecting their life chances.
The sooner you leave teaching the better.
My dear Topping, I will leave teaching having been a great success and risen rapidly through the ranks rapidly, loved by my students and leaving because I refuse to work for criminals like Susan Acland Hood. I appreciate that wouldn't bother you.
You, however, left the Army on your own admission despised by your men, which is hardly surprising given you are a coward, a bully and a liar and particularly under the circumstances under which you left, and I feel sorry for those who served with you. Just today you spent all your time spouting about how expert you are on military matters while posting propaganda you haven't read or understood in a game of one upmanship.
I usually ignore your stupid posts because they add nothing to PB and frankly you come across as a truly revolting human being whom I and it seems most other posters have no wish to talk to, quite apart from the lies, including libels, which the mods have had to delete.
I'm quite happy to go back to ignoring you as long as you leave me alone too. Quite frankly I have better things to do with my time than engage with you.
Do we have a deal?
LOL.
Get on with it then. Hurry up and leave teaching. Everyone will be happier once you do.
Let us know when that happens.
Is that a no?
You missed my edit about the libels. V interested to know what they were that the mods had to delete. Perhaps you can teach me something albeit it is unlikely.
I tend not to bother reading your posts in detail. You know what the libel was. Unless you are as stupid as you come across which I suppose is possible.
One question for you. If I am such a bad teacher, why are people willing to pay large sums of money for me to act as a private tutor?
It's not as though anyone is paying you for your military insights...
As I said I genuinely don't know what you are talking about wrt the libel. I will ask @rcs1000 what it is just to ensure I don't repeat it.
And also, I am some random internet guy; you really don't have to try to justify your worth to me by telling me how valuable you apparently are. Even if it's true.
Then why do you always do it about yourself? Honestly, @Leon was on to something when he accused you of projecting.
@TOPPING thanks for posting the article earlier. It was an interesting read. A few bits of it provided potential explanations to things that I'd been wondering about.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
I taught for 33 years before retiring at 55 and remain very comfortably off on my index linked pension. I can also testify from my experience that working long hours marking is simply unnecessary most of the time. Show me a truly overworked teacher and what you have is someone with an inability to prioritise and organise their time - better suited to another profession. I loved my time in the classroom and staffroom - the long holidays were a great bonus and excellent prep for a, so far, long and contented retirement. Oh and btw whingeing teachers date back to the old stone age classroom - all part of the gaiety of the profession...
What subject did you teach and when did you retire?
@Tsihanouskaya This is the Kastus Kalinouski battalion – a volunteer group of Belarusians formed to defend Ukraine. As a part of our Anti-War Movement, more and more people from Belarus join to help Ukrainians defend their country. Because we #StandWithUkraine. Слава Україні! Жыве Беларусь!
If we are entering a new cold war, and it appears we are, then willingness to train up rebel groups in proxy conflicts (this one is more adjacent than proxy admittedly) may well be on the increase.
It's more of a hot war than a cold war.
Well depends if you're Ukrainian or not. For some reason the West's worries about escalation falls on deaf ears with them, I cannot think why.
Labour isn't as far as I am aware, proposing to spend Billions at the moment.
The argument seems to be that is what they will do - but I happen to think Starmer is a lot more shrewd than that and will go on something like the 1997 strategy.
@TOPPING thanks for posting the article earlier. It was an interesting read. A few bits of it provided potential explanations to things that I'd been wondering about.
Like, why were people perversely viewing Ukraine as the good guys in all this?
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Or of course you could leave PB and not have to read any comments I make criticising your friends in the government and their fraud and criminality.
This would have the further benefit you would no longer bore us with your pushing of Russian propaganda.
As I said, or you can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Thing is, I feel sorry for your students. To have someone teaching who hates their profession so much must be awful for them. Really affecting their life chances.
The sooner you leave teaching the better.
My dear Topping, I will leave teaching having been a great success and risen rapidly through the ranks rapidly, loved by my students and leaving because I refuse to work for criminals like Susan Acland Hood. I appreciate that wouldn't bother you.
You, however, left the Army on your own admission despised by your men, which is hardly surprising given you are a coward, a bully and a liar and particularly under the circumstances under which you left, and I feel sorry for those who served with you. Just today you spent all your time spouting about how expert you are on military matters while posting propaganda you haven't read or understood in a game of one upmanship.
I usually ignore your stupid posts because they add nothing to PB and frankly you come across as a truly revolting human being whom I and it seems most other posters have no wish to talk to, quite apart from the lies, including libels, which the mods have had to delete.
I'm quite happy to go back to ignoring you as long as you leave me alone too. Quite frankly I have better things to do with my time than engage with you.
Do we have a deal?
LOL.
Get on with it then. Hurry up and leave teaching. Everyone will be happier once you do.
Let us know when that happens.
Is that a no?
You missed my edit about the libels. V interested to know what they were that the mods had to delete. Perhaps you can teach me something albeit it is unlikely.
I tend not to bother reading your posts in detail. You know what the libel was. Unless you are as stupid as you come across which I suppose is possible.
One question for you. If I am such a bad teacher, why are people willing to pay large sums of money for me to act as a private tutor?
It's not as though anyone is paying you for your military insights...
As I said I genuinely don't know what you are talking about wrt the libel. I will ask @rcs1000 what it is just to ensure I don't repeat it.
And also, I am some random internet guy; you really don't have to try to justify your worth to me by telling me how valuable you apparently are. Even if it's true.
Then why do you always do it about yourself? Honestly, @Leon was on to something when he accused you of projecting.
I'm not sure I have done. Not to say never but I don't recall ever having to justify myself to anyone on here the way you have.
Well, 155.9p per litre for unleaded and 162.9p per litre for diesel didn't seem to be losing Tesco's any customers yesterday, Unfortunately, the petroleum dependent are prisoners and will pay almost any price for their addiction.
I noted Shell's big profit announcement a few days ago and wondered if a windfall tax on those directly benefitting from high energy prices might not be a popular solution.
Of course, that would include the Government for whom (presumably) increasing fuel levy will help offset the cost of dealing with the administration of the Ukrainian diaspora though unlikely to do much against the overwhelming calls for increased defence expenditure.
As the post-Cold War Peace Dividend unravels, the problem is or are the expenditure structures which have evolved since the early 90s - given education and health are sacrosanct (it would seem), where is the balance in public finances? It seems there are still some clamouring for tax cuts but tax rises seem the only option.
Yet, the immediate problem is inflation and wage rises chasing price rises (the 1970s called and would like their economics back, by the way) and the return of Union militancy. The Government may not mind a "summer of discontent" as strikers rival Russian oligarchs in the popularity stakes.
Thinking aloud, I wonder if we are seeing a new "war on wealth" with those seemingly possessing Croesus-like levels of personal affluence the next group to be demonised as most people struggle.
Labour isn't as far as I am aware, proposing to spend Billions at the moment.
The argument seems to be that is what they will do - but I happen to think Starmer is a lot more shrewd than that and will go on something like the 1997 strategy.
Yeah but we’re arguing about electoral lines not reality. He will be accused of it. Some sort of “we’re just recovering don’t let them ruin” line.
Topping and YDoether; you're both very valued posters on PB, please hug it out or just ignore each other.
I've offered to ignore him, in fact usually I do but he's off on one today and I thought he needed to be responded to, but I don't think judging from his increasingly inane and nasty posts he'll be ignoring me.
I just cannot see how the economic situation is good for another Tory win, can anyone provide a reasoned counter?
The last couple of years have demonstrated that the political winds can and do change on a dime all the time. An election could easily be another 2+ years away. QED
@TOPPING thanks for posting the article earlier. It was an interesting read. A few bits of it provided potential explanations to things that I'd been wondering about.
Careful I think the PB line is to say that it's all Russian propaganda.
Labour isn't as far as I am aware, proposing to spend Billions at the moment.
The argument seems to be that is what they will do - but I happen to think Starmer is a lot more shrewd than that and will go on something like the 1997 strategy.
Yeah but we’re arguing about electoral lines not reality. He will be accused of it. Some sort of “we’re just recovering don’t let them ruin” line.
OK, everyone on PB has been drinking except me. An unusual sensation
I admit to my second coffee today
I'm sitting here wanting a coffee right now, but I'm in a comfy chair under a blanket. Can't get a coffee without getting cold.
And people say those in Ukraine are suffering; what do they know?
Having a late lunch in the Block in Tirana. A very acceptable half litre of house red. Roast pepper salad and Kosovo sausage. Today I went up a mountain by cable-car and then down into the bunker beneath it.
Topping and YDoether; you're both very valued posters on PB, please hug it out or just ignore each other.
I've offered to ignore him, in fact usually I do but he's off on one today and I thought he needed to be responded to, but I don't think judging from his increasingly inane and nasty posts he'll be ignoring me.
@DanielKorski Perhaps Ukraine should be invited to join The Commonwealth @BorisJohnson? Ukraine should become an EU member but the bloc struggles to swap its technocratic model of accession for a strategic move. Inviting Ukraine to The @commonwealthsec would be a valuable signal of support
@DanielKorski Perhaps Ukraine should be invited to join The Commonwealth @BorisJohnson? Ukraine should become an EU member but the bloc struggles to swap its technocratic model of accession for a strategic move. Inviting Ukraine to The @commonwealthsec would be a valuable signal of support
It's essentially open to anyone these days, but not sure it comes with the sort of power backup they are looking for right now.
Nor the financial clout, the support of which Ukraine is going to need in pretty much any future scenario. I'm open to correction but I'd be surprised if the vast majority of Ukrainians know of the existence of the Commonwealth, let alone the valuable 'symbolism' of membership.
Don't even get to meet the Queen thesedays what with her needing a break from things, so lacks some glamour.
Well, they sure aint shouting 'God save the Duke of Rothesay and Patricia Scotland' when they fire off their NLAWs.
Pleased to note this morning that the NLAW delivers a 454g payload. Thank God we Brexited before Brussels discovered this.
Feck, the Ukies will be drinking warm brown beer and cycling to whatever is the Eastern Orthodox equivalent of Evensong afore we know it.
I don't have a degree - I don't believe a degree shows intelligence.
Do intelligent people get degrees. Yes.
Do intelligent people not have degrees. Also yes.
The commonality is that some people are intelligent.
Just like arseholes
Under the current loan system I don’t think I’d have pursued a degree - except maybe later via an apprenticeship or other work funded scheme. Arguably that’s now the rational choice if you’re not going to get an Oxbridge first.
Which is awful for the humanities or pure science/maths.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Or of course you could leave PB and not have to read any comments I make criticising your friends in the government and their fraud and criminality.
This would have the further benefit you would no longer bore us with your pushing of Russian propaganda.
As I said, or you can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Thing is, I feel sorry for your students. To have someone teaching who hates their profession so much must be awful for them. Really affecting their life chances.
The sooner you leave teaching the better.
My dear Topping, I will leave teaching having been a great success and risen rapidly through the ranks rapidly, loved by my students and leaving because I refuse to work for criminals like Susan Acland Hood. I appreciate that wouldn't bother you.
You, however, left the Army on your own admission despised by your men, which is hardly surprising given you are a coward, a bully and a liar and particularly under the circumstances under which you left, and I feel sorry for those who served with you. Just today you spent all your time spouting about how expert you are on military matters while posting propaganda you haven't read or understood in a game of one upmanship.
I usually ignore your stupid posts because they add nothing to PB and frankly you come across as a truly revolting human being whom I and it seems most other posters have no wish to talk to, quite apart from the lies, including libels, which the mods have had to delete.
I'm quite happy to go back to ignoring you as long as you leave me alone too. Quite frankly I have better things to do with my time than engage with you.
Do we have a deal?
LOL.
Get on with it then. Hurry up and leave teaching. Everyone will be happier once you do.
Let us know when that happens.
Is that a no?
You missed my edit about the libels. V interested to know what they were that the mods had to delete. Perhaps you can teach me something albeit it is unlikely.
I tend not to bother reading your posts in detail. You know what the libel was. Unless you are as stupid as you come across which I suppose is possible.
One question for you. If I am such a bad teacher, why are people willing to pay large sums of money for me to act as a private tutor?
It's not as though anyone is paying you for your military insights...
As I said I genuinely don't know what you are talking about wrt the libel. I will ask @rcs1000 what it is just to ensure I don't repeat it.
And also, I am some random internet guy; you really don't have to try to justify your worth to me by telling me how valuable you apparently are. Even if it's true.
Then why do you always do it about yourself? Honestly, @Leon was on to something when he accused you of projecting.
I'm not sure I have done. Not to say never but I don't recall ever having to justify myself to anyone on here the way you have.
Well, all I can say is you haven't read your own posts carefully enough. Which is not perhaps surprising. Boasting about your rank and connections ad nauseam is a funny way to try and not justify yourself.
What I don't understand is why you feel the need to belittle others for being more successful than you. Much though I detest personally, I have never questioned your knowledge of military matters or contradicted you on them, because although you may have been a very bad officer you were an officer and have more insight than I do as although I was from a military family I would not have been able to serve in the army (as a teenage cancer survivor) although TBF I wouldn't have wanted to either. Why do you not extend the same courtesy to me over education?
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
I taught for 33 years before retiring at 55 and remain very comfortably off on my index linked pension. I can also testify from my experience that working long hours marking is simply unnecessary most of the time. Show me a truly overworked teacher and what you have is someone with an inability to prioritise and organise their time - better suited to another profession. I loved my time in the classroom and staffroom - the long holidays were a great bonus and excellent prep for a, so far, long and contented retirement. Oh and btw whingeing teachers date back to the old stone age classroom - all part of the gaiety of the profession...
What subject did you teach and when did you retire?
A dear friend of mine is a teacher at a secondary school, and head of department(s) (history and politics, I think). She used to complain about her workload, until she saw how many hours Mrs J (*) worked.
Anecdata and all that, but from talking to her it depends on how much the syllabus changes. If there are large changes to the syllabus, she has to work cray hard over the summer. If there are not, then she has a quietish summer.
(*) Recently promoted Mrs J, I must add. She is technically no longer an engineer, but a PHB with engineering pretensions... (**) (**) I'm dead.
Well, 155.9p per litre for unleaded and 162.9p per litre for diesel didn't seem to be losing Tesco's any customers yesterday, Unfortunately, the petroleum dependent are prisoners and will pay almost any price for their addiction.
I noted Shell's big profit announcement a few days ago and wondered if a windfall tax on those directly benefitting from high energy prices might not be a popular solution.
Of course, that would include the Government for whom (presumably) increasing fuel levy will help offset the cost of dealing with the administration of the Ukrainian diaspora though unlikely to do much against the overwhelming calls for increased defence expenditure.
As the post-Cold War Peace Dividend unravels, the problem is or are the expenditure structures which have evolved since the early 90s - given education and health are sacrosanct (it would seem), where is the balance in public finances? It seems there are still some clamouring for tax cuts but tax rises seem the only option.
Yet, the immediate problem is inflation and wage rises chasing price rises (the 1970s called and would like their economics back, by the way) and the return of Union militancy. The Government may not mind a "summer of discontent" as strikers rival Russian oligarchs in the popularity stakes.
Thinking aloud, I wonder if we are seeing a new "war on wealth" with those seemingly possessing Croesus-like levels of personal affluence the next group to be demonised as most people struggle.
The objection to a windfall tax on Shell is that it hits peoples' pensions. a shit argument because any pension fund which is more than 1% in Shell and BP combined needs its trustees' heads feeling, and the pensioners receive the benefit of the windfall tax along with the non-pensioners, a large and very impecunious group.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
Unless you're a teacher, in which case it's 'real terms pay freeze and massive cut in your pension.'
While the DfE buy cheap booze and party illegally. And get away with it.
This is not being well received, oddly.
New teachers got a 5.5% payrise in 2020 and of course teachers still get better pensions than the average worker
You may not have noticed, but the majority of teachers are not new teachers.
And removing the index linking by stealth doesn't even guarantee the second part of your sentence is true.
What are they doing to the pension? The Civil Service scheme is now a career average scheme, with an NRA of State Pension Age, but they've maintained the index linking. And everyone got to keep accrued benefits of course.
They have declared that there is to be no index linking for anyone who didn't get a pay rise this year. They also refused a nominal £1 pay rise to resolve the situation on the grounds 'this would not be an appropriate use of public money.'
They apparently said that without irony, which given the ways they are using public money, often illegally, is even more shocking.
Officially the removal is for this year only, but given they are on their own admission criminals I don't trust them not to find a way to extend it.
Average teacher pension though still equates to £30,000 a year compared to the average British pension of only £21,000 a year
How does it compare to the pension of investment bankers?
Nothing to stop teachers becoming investment bankers who are not, as far as I'm aware, paid for by the state.
OK - how does it compare to the pension of MPs?
Nothing to stop teachers standing for parliament either, indeed a number do but unless you are in a safe seat generally less job security
Nothing stopping the "average Britain" from becoming a teacher either.
You attempted the lazy "stop complaining" argument and I was happy to counter it.
I believe we have some teachers on here. They have decided to become teachers which places them above some occupations and below others on the remunerative front. They have presumably decided that the benefits of being a teacher (imparting wisdom to the next generation, longer blocks of holidays, whatever else) are compensation enough for them not to seek other avenues of employment.
If they are so unhappy being teachers then they can leave and become investment bankers or MPs or flint knappers or sit and tend their gardens.
Or of course they can continue to be teachers and whinge like fuck about it on PB.
I taught for 33 years before retiring at 55 and remain very comfortably off on my index linked pension. I can also testify from my experience that working long hours marking is simply unnecessary most of the time. Show me a truly overworked teacher and what you have is someone with an inability to prioritise and organise their time - better suited to another profession. I loved my time in the classroom and staffroom - the long holidays were a great bonus and excellent prep for a, so far, long and contented retirement. Oh and btw whingeing teachers date back to the old stone age classroom - all part of the gaiety of the profession...
What subject did you teach and when did you retire?
A dear friend of mine is a teacher at a secondary school, and head of department(s) (history and politics, I think). She used to complain about her workload, until she saw how many hours Mrs J (*) worked.
Anecdata and all that, but from talking to her it depends on how much the syllabus changes. If there are large changes to the syllabus, she has to work cray hard over the summer. If there are not, then she has a quietish summer.
(*) Recently promoted Mrs J, I must add. She is technically no longer an engineer, but a PHB with engineering pretensions... (**) (**) I'm dead.
The last five years have been nothing but changes to the syllabus.
However, the real killer on workload over the last 18 months was the legal requirement to set specialised cover for those isolating with Covid. That doubled the planning load overnight. TAGs were pretty bad too, but only lasted 6 weeks.
Labour being pro nuclear power I must say is a good move for them, the fear from the Greens to it is one of the biggest reasons I never vote that way
Nuclear will take many years to come on stream. It’s an easy thing for labour to support and relatively meaningless We need to solve the short and medium term issues first.
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One day you will post something Inactually agree with. 🙂
You are unlikely to become an investment banker or MP with those qualifications.
You might still be able to inspire kids in the classroom but does not mean you should be a millionaire
Plus their families.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mps-pay-rise-2022-salaries-b2026011.html
It is true that nor should people compare what they know going in is to be a less remunerated position as compared with the financial rewards of other professions, and they can consider seeking other opportunities instead, but nor should we make these sorts of roles so onerous or unattractive that even if people want to follow a calling they find it extremely hard to do it.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/inflation-rate-cpi
*art and culture post
Are you there Leon? Who is top right? 😉
PEEP SHOW - dir. Rino Stefano Tagliafierro
https://vimeo.com/163017751
“The viewer, as if spying through the keyhole, witnesses a personal show in which the most beautiful erotic icons of the classical period wink and show themselves off”
My goodness Leon, we do look after you on this site
Put £1 into the Vimeo slot to get all 7 minutes. I did 🤤
You can trust me to find things like that. ☺️
Thing is, I feel sorry for your students. To have someone teaching who hates their profession so much must be awful for them. Really affecting their life chances.
The sooner you leave teaching the better.
https://twitter.com/Tsihanouskaya/status/1502954739176194055
@Tsihanouskaya
This is the Kastus Kalinouski battalion – a volunteer group of Belarusians formed to defend Ukraine. As a part of our Anti-War Movement, more and more people from Belarus join to help Ukrainians defend their country. Because we #StandWithUkraine.
Слава Україні! Жыве Беларусь!
NY Time blog
It is there in the public arena
You, however, left the Army on your own admission despised by your men, which is hardly surprising given you are a coward, a bully and a liar and particularly under the circumstances under which you left, and I feel sorry for those who served with you. Just today you spent all your time spouting about how expert you are on military matters while posting propaganda you haven't read or understood in a game of one upmanship.
I usually ignore your stupid posts because they add nothing to PB and frankly you come across as a truly revolting human being whom I and it seems most other posters have no wish to talk to, quite apart from the lies, including libels, which the mods have had to delete.
I'm quite happy to go back to ignoring you as long as you leave me alone too. Quite frankly I have better things to do with my time than engage with you.
Do we have a deal?
And her degree was economics, sociology and social anthropology.
If someone so detests the profession they are in then I can't but think that it would be reasonably obvious to his students.
Get on with it then. Hurry up and leave teaching. Everyone will be happier once you do.
Let us know when that happens.
Edit: what libels, btw, that mods have had to delete. Genuinely interested.
Roaming or herding sheep. Take this detail from beeches, if this can’t sell bottled water nothing can 🥰
Or I suppose she could be both.
We are talking averages, even if some MPs did not go to Russell Group universities and some teachers did go to Russell Group universities
https://twitter.com/suttontrust/status/1205533574646108160?s=19
I *really* picked a bad month to go dry. With all the sh*t going on, I feel like being permanently pickled ...
(*) Except on my birthday.
One question for you. If I am such a bad teacher, why are people willing to pay large sums of money for me to act as a private tutor?
It's not as though anyone is paying you for your military insights...
That isn't going to happen and as Bill Clinton rightfully pointed out - it's the economy that wins or loses elections for the party in power.
And also, I am some random internet guy; you really don't have to try to justify your worth to me by telling me how valuable you apparently are. Even if it's true.
2) Rally round the flag “national effort” stuff like with Covid;
3) The cycle inevitably turning and Starmer coming under pressure as the media concocts a “come back” narrative; and
4) Bags of excess demand leading to a strong recovery and electoral bribes in 23/24.
Presumably those of us with Masters should be listened to more than mere degrees, and we should all listen to those with Doctorates.
We'll struggle to get 30 points.
Points deduction next season too.
The argument seems to be that is what they will do - but I happen to think Starmer is a lot more shrewd than that and will go on something like the 1997 strategy.
Do intelligent people get degrees. Yes.
Do intelligent people not have degrees. Also yes.
The commonality is that some people are intelligent.
Just like arseholes
Well, 155.9p per litre for unleaded and 162.9p per litre for diesel didn't seem to be losing Tesco's any customers yesterday, Unfortunately, the petroleum dependent are prisoners and will pay almost any price for their addiction.
I noted Shell's big profit announcement a few days ago and wondered if a windfall tax on those directly benefitting from high energy prices might not be a popular solution.
Of course, that would include the Government for whom (presumably) increasing fuel levy will help offset the cost of dealing with the administration of the Ukrainian diaspora though unlikely to do much against the overwhelming calls for increased defence expenditure.
As the post-Cold War Peace Dividend unravels, the problem is or are the expenditure structures which have evolved since the early 90s - given education and health are sacrosanct (it would seem), where is the balance in public finances? It seems there are still some clamouring for tax cuts but tax rises seem the only option.
Yet, the immediate problem is inflation and wage rises chasing price rises (the 1970s called and would like their economics back, by the way) and the return of Union militancy. The Government may not mind a "summer of discontent" as strikers rival Russian oligarchs in the popularity stakes.
Thinking aloud, I wonder if we are seeing a new "war on wealth" with those seemingly possessing Croesus-like levels of personal affluence the next group to be demonised as most people struggle.
Which is awful for the humanities or pure science/maths.
What I don't understand is why you feel the need to belittle others for being more successful than you. Much though I detest personally, I have never questioned your knowledge of military matters or contradicted you on them, because although you may have been a very bad officer you were an officer and have more insight than I do as although I was from a military family I would not have been able to serve in the army (as a teenage cancer survivor) although TBF I wouldn't have wanted to either. Why do you not extend the same courtesy to me over education?
Anyway, back to ignore I think.
Anecdata and all that, but from talking to her it depends on how much the syllabus changes. If there are large changes to the syllabus, she has to work cray hard over the summer. If there are not, then she has a quietish summer.
(*) Recently promoted Mrs J, I must add. She is technically no longer an engineer, but a PHB with engineering pretensions... (**)
(**) I'm dead.
Some As are Bs.
Some As are not-Bs.
Therefore B can be A or not-A.
However, the real killer on workload over the last 18 months was the legal requirement to set specialised cover for those isolating with Covid. That doubled the planning load overnight. TAGs were pretty bad too, but only lasted 6 weeks.
We need to ensure we have energy security.