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Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Hungary will support all European Union sanctions against Russia and will not block anything, Prime Minister Viktor Orban said on Saturday, speaking on the Ukrainian-Hungarian border.
"Hungary made clear that we support all the sanctions, so we will block nothing, so what the prime ministers of the European Union are able to agree, we accept it and we support it," he told reporters in English.
"This is the time to be united, it's a war," he said, adding that peace efforts were the most important.
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Pull your finger out Germany - and get those 500 Stingers there tonight.
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Their principles were obviously very important.
Why couldn't they have decided this in the first five minutes after Ukraine was invaded?
Not your wet teenage forced conscripts; rather, a particularly nasty bunch of bastards. Hopefully the Ukrainians slaughter as many of them as possible.
Not your wet teenage forced conscripts; rather, a particularly nasty bunch of bastards. Hopefully the Ukrainians slaughter as many of them as possible.
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Their principles were obviously very important.
Why couldn't they have decided this in the first five minutes after Ukraine was invaded?
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Finally and welcome
The snow globe of settled international understandings has been given a vigorous shake.
It does look like everybody bar Russia and Belarus now wants to see Ukraine come through - and will do whatever they can to deliver.
Hungary will support all European Union sanctions against Russia and will not block anything, Prime Minister Viktor Orban said on Saturday, speaking on the Ukrainian-Hungarian border.
"Hungary made clear that we support all the sanctions, so we will block nothing, so what the prime ministers of the European Union are able to agree, we accept it and we support it," he told reporters in English.
"This is the time to be united, it's a war," he said, adding that peace efforts were the most important.
Worrying Twitter posts about Russia targeting Ukrainian nuclear power stations..
If those mad bastards precipitate another Chernobyl it will send a cloud of radioactive shit all round the world. Even Xi won't want anything to do with them after that.
It would also arguably constitute an act of war against the remainder of Europe.
Worrying Twitter posts about Russia targeting Ukrainian nuclear power stations..
I'd sure hate to live in a country downwind from that. [Checks map]. Oh.
It'll be fine, we survived the last time there were nuclear accidents in Ukraine, but more importantly, we'll get sequels to the great drama series that was Chernobyl.
My Ukrainian friend (currently hiding in a bomb shelter in Kharkiv) explains that the Ukrainian phrase "Good Luck" is a well known visual pun in Russian translation
Worrying Twitter posts about Russia targeting Ukrainian nuclear power stations..
I'd sure hate to live in a country downwind from that. [Checks map]. Oh.
It'll be fine, we survived the last time there were nuclear accidents in Ukraine, but more importantly, we'll get sequels to the great drama series that was Chernobyl.
Worrying Twitter posts about Russia targeting Ukrainian nuclear power stations..
I'd sure hate to live in a country downwind from that. [Checks map]. Oh.
It'll be fine, we survived the last time there were nuclear accidents in Ukraine, but more importantly think about, we'll get sequels to the great drama series that was Chernobyl.
Still haven't watched it, so no spoilers please. I'm guessing the save the day in the nick of time and then everyone goes home and has a nice bowl of borscht.
Oh see it, it is one of the greatest shows in the history of television.
My Ukrainian friend (currently hiding in a bomb shelter in Kharkiv) explains that the Ukrainian phrase "Good Luck" is a well known visual pun in Russian translation
My Ukrainian friend (currently hiding in a bomb shelter in Kharkiv) explains that the Ukrainian phrase "Good Luck" is a well known visual pun in Russian translation
BREAKING: Ukrainian presidential adviser says about 3,500 Russian troops have been killed and injured so far in war against Ukraine, @Reuters is reporting.
It's not immediately possible to independently verify such figures
Adviser also says Russian attack on Kyiv isn't advancing
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Their principles were obviously very important.
Why couldn't they have decided this in the first five minutes after Ukraine was invaded?
They've been shamed into this.
And doubtless the UK will have to be shamed into helping the Ukrainian refugees in due course.
I am as mad as anyone about what is going on, but have been trying to resist the urge to call for or glorify death. Anyone fighting for Russia is doing so under orders from a dictator. The tragedy is that the Ukranians have been forced in to defending themselves in this way.
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Their principles were obviously very important.
Why couldn't they have decided this in the first five minutes after Ukraine was invaded?
They've been shamed into this.
And doubtless the UK will have to be shamed into helping the Ukrainian refugees in due course.
As we should. My local council will be contacting the govt to see what we can do to help and if we can take people.
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Their principles were obviously very important.
Why couldn't they have decided this in the first five minutes after Ukraine was invaded?
They've been shamed into this.
On balance I think it’s good we have countries like Germany and Italy with a different point of view and scepticism about actions against Russia. Equally good to have ultra hawks like Poland and Estonia. As JFK famously discovered during the Bay of Pigs, groupthink is dangerous. I fancy Putin is discovering something similar now (but hopefully not learning the lesson). Ideas and strategies need healthy challenge. It means that when, for example, SWIFT gets pulled from Russia the implications will have been properly debated and understood.
BREAKING: Ukrainian presidential adviser says about 3,500 Russian troops have been killed and injured so far in war against Ukraine, @Reuters is reporting.
It's not immediately possible to independently verify such figures
Adviser also says Russian attack on Kyiv isn't advancing
I am as mad as anyone about what is going on, but have been trying to resist the urge to call for or glorify death. Anyone fighting for Russia is doing so under orders from a dictator. The tragedy is that the Ukranians have been forced in to defending themselves in this way.
Whilst I feel some sympathy for the young Russians being sent to the deaths, we should not shy away from the fact that this is war and we very much know which side we're on.
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Their principles were obviously very important.
Why couldn't they have decided this in the first five minutes after Ukraine was invaded?
They've been shamed into this.
On balance I think it’s good we have countries like Germany and Italy with a different point of view and scepticism about actions against Russia. Equally good to have ultra hawks like Poland and Estonia. As JFK famously discovered during the Bay of Pigs, groupthink is dangerous. I fancy Putin is discovering something similar now (but hopefully not learning the lesson). Ideas and strategies need healthy challenge. It means that when, for example, SWIFT gets pulled from Russia the implications will have been properly debated and understood.
I'm not sure Germany and Italy having a different point of view always works out well.
I am as mad as anyone about what is going on, but have been trying to resist the urge to call for or glorify death. Anyone fighting for Russia is doing so under orders from a dictator. The tragedy is that the Ukranians have been forced in to defending themselves in this way.
Whilst I feel some sympathy for the young Russians being sent to the deaths, we should not shy away from the fact that this is war and we very much know which side we're on.
They might be conscripts, but soldiers are normally reckoned fair game. The Ukies need to kill as many Moskali as they can.
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Their principles were obviously very important.
Why couldn't they have decided this in the first five minutes after Ukraine was invaded?
They've been shamed into this.
On balance I think it’s good we have countries like Germany and Italy with a different point of view and scepticism about actions against Russia. Equally good to have ultra hawks like Poland and Estonia. As JFK famously discovered during the Bay of Pigs, groupthink is dangerous. I fancy Putin is discovering something similar now (but hopefully not learning the lesson). Ideas and strategies need healthy challenge. It means that when, for example, SWIFT gets pulled from Russia the implications will have been properly debated and understood.
Fuck shit. Uncle Vova needs a bullet in the back of the head.
Interesting comment from Orban on BBC - one might read it as meaning his usual methods are indeed just seeking to be 'clever', even as now is not the time for it.
On a visit to Hungary's eastern border with Ukraine, where a steady stream of refugees are crossing, Orban said all European countries, including Hungary, condemned Russia.
“This is not the time to be clever, this is time to be united. It's a war and we have to get the situation back to prior to the war and restore the peace,” he said
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Their principles were obviously very important.
Why couldn't they have decided this in the first five minutes after Ukraine was invaded?
They've been shamed into this.
On balance I think it’s good we have countries like Germany and Italy with a different point of view and scepticism about actions against Russia. Equally good to have ultra hawks like Poland and Estonia. As JFK famously discovered during the Bay of Pigs, groupthink is dangerous. I fancy Putin is discovering something similar now (but hopefully not learning the lesson). Ideas and strategies need healthy challenge. It means that when, for example, SWIFT gets pulled from Russia the implications will have been properly debated and understood.
I think describing Poland and Estonia as ultra hawks is a little inaccurate.
More like, they are next on the list, and know it.
Can we have this piece printed up and framed and then sent to Nadine's office so she doesn't forget why BBC's soft power is world beating and worth supporting?
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Their principles were obviously very important.
Why couldn't they have decided this in the first five minutes after Ukraine was invaded?
They've been shamed into this.
On balance I think it’s good we have countries like Germany and Italy with a different point of view and scepticism about actions against Russia. Equally good to have ultra hawks like Poland and Estonia. As JFK famously discovered during the Bay of Pigs, groupthink is dangerous. I fancy Putin is discovering something similar now (but hopefully not learning the lesson). Ideas and strategies need healthy challenge. It means that when, for example, SWIFT gets pulled from Russia the implications will have been properly debated and understood.
Surely it depends on the motivation of the countries. If it's "our we sure this is a good idea?", then fine. But I think it's all about self interest, I'm afraid.
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Their principles were obviously very important.
Why couldn't they have decided this in the first five minutes after Ukraine was invaded?
They've been shamed into this.
On balance I think it’s good we have countries like Germany and Italy with a different point of view and scepticism about actions against Russia. Equally good to have ultra hawks like Poland and Estonia. As JFK famously discovered during the Bay of Pigs, groupthink is dangerous. I fancy Putin is discovering something similar now (but hopefully not learning the lesson). Ideas and strategies need healthy challenge. It means that when, for example, SWIFT gets pulled from Russia the implications will have been properly debated and understood.
Depending on how swiftly a decision is needed, slight delay is not usually a problem. There was some EU summit last year, or maybe the year before, which went on longer than usual because clearly there was more disagreement that needed to be ironed out. It seemed to me a good thing, as it shouldn't be the case that every summit has already managed to work every little detail out.
That said, some things are pretty black and white and the reasons for seeking to introduce shares of grey are not all sound.
I am as mad as anyone about what is going on, but have been trying to resist the urge to call for or glorify death. Anyone fighting for Russia is doing so under orders from a dictator. The tragedy is that the Ukranians have been forced in to defending themselves in this way.
It depends very much who you are talking about. I wouldn't say I "glorify" death at all, but there are a lot of truly vile people on the Russian side that the world would be better off without.
There's no point in being wet about this. Putin's death, for example, would be a blessing for humanity.
Interesting comment from Orban on BBC - one might read it as meaning his usual methods are indeed just seeking to be 'clever', even as now is not the time for it.
On a visit to Hungary's eastern border with Ukraine, where a steady stream of refugees are crossing, Orban said all European countries, including Hungary, condemned Russia.
“This is not the time to be clever, this is time to be united. It's a war and we have to get the situation back to prior to the war and restore the peace,” he said
Of course Orban has a tight election coming up and I’m not sure a pro-Russian stance right now would help him one bit.
I am as mad as anyone about what is going on, but have been trying to resist the urge to call for or glorify death. Anyone fighting for Russia is doing so under orders from a dictator. The tragedy is that the Ukranians have been forced in to defending themselves in this way.
Whilst I feel some sympathy for the young Russians being sent to the deaths, we should not shy away from the fact that this is war and we very much know which side we're on.
But we are not really being confronted with difficult decisions, in the way that people in Russia and Ukraine are, so this type of armchair commentry is problematic and distasteful. I think death in this conflict on both sides is unavoidable, but not something to celebrate. You have to hope that the effects are mitigated, by adherance to things like the Geneva convention.
I am as mad as anyone about what is going on, but have been trying to resist the urge to call for or glorify death. Anyone fighting for Russia is doing so under orders from a dictator. The tragedy is that the Ukranians have been forced in to defending themselves in this way.
Whilst I feel some sympathy for the young Russians being sent to the deaths, we should not shy away from the fact that this is war and we very much know which side we're on.
They might be conscripts, but soldiers are normally reckoned fair game. The Ukies need to kill as many Moskali as they can.
Not a word I knew till 2 minutes ago, but apparently used only as an ethnic slur. And what is this "normally considered fair game" shit? I mean, yes, we are all on the Ukr side, but you sound like a Victorian gent reading the ticker in his club and hoping the North is giving the niggers a dam' good pasting.
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Their principles were obviously very important.
Why couldn't they have decided this in the first five minutes after Ukraine was invaded?
They've been shamed into this.
On balance I think it’s good we have countries like Germany and Italy with a different point of view and scepticism about actions against Russia. Equally good to have ultra hawks like Poland and Estonia. As JFK famously discovered during the Bay of Pigs, groupthink is dangerous. I fancy Putin is discovering something similar now (but hopefully not learning the lesson). Ideas and strategies need healthy challenge. It means that when, for example, SWIFT gets pulled from Russia the implications will have been properly debated and understood.
Fuck shit. Uncle Vova needs a bullet in the back of the head.
Yes, that's where I'm at: I want him killed.
The world will be safer without him but the transition to a saner Russia afterwards is important too.
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Their principles were obviously very important.
Why couldn't they have decided this in the first five minutes after Ukraine was invaded?
They've been shamed into this.
On balance I think it’s good we have countries like Germany and Italy with a different point of view and scepticism about actions against Russia. Equally good to have ultra hawks like Poland and Estonia. As JFK famously discovered during the Bay of Pigs, groupthink is dangerous. I fancy Putin is discovering something similar now (but hopefully not learning the lesson). Ideas and strategies need healthy challenge. It means that when, for example, SWIFT gets pulled from Russia the implications will have been properly debated and understood.
I think describing Poland and Estonia as ultra hawks is a little inaccurate.
More like, they are next on the list, and know it.
Estonia today banned Aeroflot from its airspace. Not too much of a detour on its own, though.
BREAKING: Ukrainian presidential adviser says about 3,500 Russian troops have been killed and injured so far in war against Ukraine, @Reuters is reporting.
It's not immediately possible to independently verify such figures
Adviser also says Russian attack on Kyiv isn't advancing
BREAKING: Ukrainian presidential adviser says about 3,500 Russian troops have been killed and injured so far in war against Ukraine, @Reuters is reporting.
It's not immediately possible to independently verify such figures
Adviser also says Russian attack on Kyiv isn't advancing
I am as mad as anyone about what is going on, but have been trying to resist the urge to call for or glorify death. Anyone fighting for Russia is doing so under orders from a dictator. The tragedy is that the Ukranians have been forced in to defending themselves in this way.
It depends very much who you are talking about. I wouldn't say I "glorify" death at all, but there are a lot of truly vile people on the Russian side that the world would be better off without.
There's no point in being wet about this. Putin's death, for example, would be a blessing for humanity.
How can you say that for certain? You've no idea what he might be keeping the lid on, or what the future holds.
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Their principles were obviously very important.
Why couldn't they have decided this in the first five minutes after Ukraine was invaded?
They've been shamed into this.
On balance I think it’s good we have countries like Germany and Italy with a different point of view and scepticism about actions against Russia. Equally good to have ultra hawks like Poland and Estonia. As JFK famously discovered during the Bay of Pigs, groupthink is dangerous. I fancy Putin is discovering something similar now (but hopefully not learning the lesson). Ideas and strategies need healthy challenge. It means that when, for example, SWIFT gets pulled from Russia the implications will have been properly debated and understood.
Fuck shit. Uncle Vova needs a bullet in the back of the head.
BREAKING: Ukrainian presidential adviser says about 3,500 Russian troops have been killed and injured so far in war against Ukraine, @Reuters is reporting.
It's not immediately possible to independently verify such figures
Adviser also says Russian attack on Kyiv isn't advancing
If true that’s about the same as the total number of coalition deaths in Afghanistan for the whole period of the occupation.
It almost certainly isn't. Due to excitement, assuming an explosion was a hit, and assuming that hit was a kill rather than survived, double-counting and confirmation bias these can be threefold the real numbers.
But, I'd expect 600-1,000 Russian casualties sounds about right. Ukrainian casualties probably not too bad so far but civilian casualties will probably now ratchet-up nastily, I suspect.
They aren't advancing because they're now bringing out the big guns before they try again. Kyiv needs to be emptied of all non-combatant civilians overnight, IMHO.
Just sent an email to Smarkets and booked my train ticket. An evening up in the smoke with good company sounds like just what I need. I even got permission from my wife first
I am as mad as anyone about what is going on, but have been trying to resist the urge to call for or glorify death. Anyone fighting for Russia is doing so under orders from a dictator. The tragedy is that the Ukranians have been forced in to defending themselves in this way.
It depends very much who you are talking about. I wouldn't say I "glorify" death at all, but there are a lot of truly vile people on the Russian side that the world would be better off without.
There's no point in being wet about this. Putin's death, for example, would be a blessing for humanity.
How can you say that for certain? You've no idea what he might be keeping the lid on, or what the future holds.
One could argue every success for Ukraine takes us one step closer to nuclear war. We just don't know.
But I am wishing Ukraine every success in this war.
BREAKING: Ukrainian presidential adviser says about 3,500 Russian troops have been killed and injured so far in war against Ukraine, @Reuters is reporting.
It's not immediately possible to independently verify such figures
Adviser also says Russian attack on Kyiv isn't advancing
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Their principles were obviously very important.
Why couldn't they have decided this in the first five minutes after Ukraine was invaded?
They've been shamed into this.
On balance I think it’s good we have countries like Germany and Italy with a different point of view and scepticism about actions against Russia. Equally good to have ultra hawks like Poland and Estonia. As JFK famously discovered during the Bay of Pigs, groupthink is dangerous. I fancy Putin is discovering something similar now (but hopefully not learning the lesson). Ideas and strategies need healthy challenge. It means that when, for example, SWIFT gets pulled from Russia the implications will have been properly debated and understood.
I'm not sure Germany and Italy having a different point of view always works out well.
What are you referring to here? Teutoburg Forest?
If Germany and Italy have different points of view then they disagree.
If they have a different point of view they can agree with each other and disagree with everybody else.
I am as mad as anyone about what is going on, but have been trying to resist the urge to call for or glorify death. Anyone fighting for Russia is doing so under orders from a dictator. The tragedy is that the Ukranians have been forced in to defending themselves in this way.
Whilst I feel some sympathy for the young Russians being sent to the deaths, we should not shy away from the fact that this is war and we very much know which side we're on.
They might be conscripts, but soldiers are normally reckoned fair game. The Ukies need to kill as many Moskali as they can.
Not a word I knew till 2 minutes ago, but apparently used only as an ethnic slur. And what is this "normally considered fair game" shit? I mean, yes, we are all on the Ukr side, but you sound like a Victorian gent reading the ticker in his club and hoping the North is giving the niggers a dam' good pasting.
Not at all. If the Russians invade a democratic country then they deserve whatever shit gets dropped on them.
A famous comedy actor in an indeterminate European country (played by Tom Hanks, obvs) decides to stand for President, and unexpectedly wins!
Soon he finds himself grappling with a situation he could never have expected as the mad dictator Vlad, president of “The Federation” (Kevin Spacey) decides to launch a terrifying invasion of his country.
He has a choice: to escape to safety, or stay and fight. In this moment of crisis he finds his inner strength. Of course he will fight.
Accompanied by his trusty friends, the former heavyweight boxing champion and now mayor of the capital city (Arnold Schwarzenegger) and former beauty pageant winner now Kalashnikov wielding action heroine (Angelina Jolie) and with the eyes of the world on him including the American President Joe (an aged Clint Eastwood), EU commission President Ursula (Emma Thompson), French President Emmanuel (Omar Sy) and a comedy cameo for UK prime minister Boris (Rowan Atkinson) he sets out to make his date with destiny.
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First like England. Till `springtime in Paris
I know it'll be hard....
https://twitter.com/gsoh31/status/1497634371343319041
Breaking: German government just decided to deliver 1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 "Stinger" surface-to-air missiles from Bundeswehr stocks to Ukraine to support the country against Russian attack.
"The weapons will be delivered to Ukraine as soon as possible," spox said.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine marks a turning point. It threatens our entire post-war order. In this situation, it is our duty to do our utmost to support Ukraine in defending itself against Vladimir Putin's invading army.GER stands closely by Ukraine."
Come on Vlad, nuke Wales now.
"Hungary made clear that we support all the sanctions, so we will block nothing, so what the prime ministers of the European Union are able to agree, we accept it and we support it," he told reporters in English.
"This is the time to be united, it's a war," he said, adding that peace efforts were the most important.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/hungary-wont-block-any-sanctions-against-russia-pm-orban-says-2022-02-26/
Why couldn't they have decided this in the first five minutes after Ukraine was invaded?
They've been shamed into this.
It does look like everybody bar Russia and Belarus now wants to see Ukraine come through - and will do whatever they can to deliver.
He's running out of mates, and I doubt that the likes of Iran, Cuba and Venezuela are going to be of very much use in this fight.
It would also arguably constitute an act of war against the remainder of Europe.
https://twitter.com/JamesERothwell/status/1497614678377349120
My Ukrainian friend (currently hiding in a bomb shelter in Kharkiv) explains that the Ukrainian phrase "Good Luck" is a well known visual pun in Russian translation
In Ukrainian: НЕХАЙ ЩАСТИТЬ = Good Luck
In Russian: НЕХУЙ ШАСТАТЬ = (a v rude version of) Please Go Away
#Ukraine
https://twitter.com/StewartWood/status/1497625200057364483
НЕХУЙ ШАСТАТЬ = fuck you says google translate
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/26/thousands-russians-flee-us-escape-conscription-amid-ukraine/
It's not immediately possible to independently verify such figures
Adviser also says Russian attack on Kyiv isn't advancing
https://twitter.com/haynesdeborah/status/1497642577260122116
Statement from Club Owner Roman Abramovich https://link.chelseafc.com/1WUW/e1f594e2 via @ChelseaFC
On a visit to Hungary's eastern border with Ukraine, where a steady stream of refugees are crossing, Orban said all European countries, including Hungary, condemned Russia.
“This is not the time to be clever, this is time to be united. It's a war and we have to get the situation back to prior to the war and restore the peace,” he said
More like, they are next on the list, and know it.
Just a thought.
That said, some things are pretty black and white and the reasons for seeking to introduce shares of grey are not all sound.
There's no point in being wet about this. Putin's death, for example, would be a blessing for humanity.
Cutting off power and I bet Putin believes that the Ukraine wants to try to make nukes again. He would, after all.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10554929/Video-claims-Ukrainians-mocking-Russian-tank-stuck-without-fuel-road-Kyiv.html
Second rate. Hashtag going backwards
If Wales hadn't conceded so many penalties they'd have won, and deserved to win.
This looks like some PR bullshit.
Abramovich hands over his stewardship and care of Chelsea to the trustees of Chelsea charitable foundation
The world will be safer without him but the transition to a saner Russia afterwards is important too.
But, I think that just digs an even deeper political hole for Putin.
Seeing Kyiv razed is going to lead to some awkward questions.
This is going to be some form over substance.
But, I'd expect 600-1,000 Russian casualties sounds about right. Ukrainian casualties probably not too bad so far but civilian casualties will probably now ratchet-up nastily, I suspect.
They aren't advancing because they're now bringing out the big guns before they try again. Kyiv needs to be emptied of all non-combatant civilians overnight, IMHO.
But I am wishing Ukraine every success in this war.
If they have a different point of view they can agree with each other and disagree with everybody else.
Working title: “the last laugh”
Plot summary:
A famous comedy actor in an indeterminate European country (played by Tom Hanks, obvs) decides to stand for President, and unexpectedly wins!
Soon he finds himself grappling with a situation he could never have expected as the mad dictator Vlad, president of “The Federation” (Kevin Spacey) decides to launch a terrifying invasion of his country.
He has a choice: to escape to safety, or stay and fight. In this moment of crisis he finds his inner strength. Of course he will fight.
Accompanied by his trusty friends, the former heavyweight boxing champion and now mayor of the capital city (Arnold Schwarzenegger) and former beauty pageant winner now Kalashnikov wielding action heroine (Angelina Jolie) and with the eyes of the world on him including the American President Joe (an aged Clint Eastwood), EU commission President Ursula (Emma Thompson), French President Emmanuel (Omar Sy) and a comedy cameo for UK prime minister Boris (Rowan Atkinson) he sets out to make his date with destiny.
I really hope the ending is Hollywood this time.