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  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,813
    Sandpit said:

    Morning all,

    Good luck to those in the path of Storm Eunice today, sounds like it’s going to be a bad one. Batten down the hatches and stay indoors.

    Would be nice to have the option, but a lot of us are going to be forced to go to work in this (and the wind warning for when I'll be coming back home again later today has been upgraded overnight to Red...)

    It's only about a ten minute walk but I'm still not looking forward to it. At all.
  • Well, that's the archbish sorted out the one person that expects Royals to be superhuman saints, now to the rest of us who'd rather they weren't self-deceiving cretinous pals of paedos..


  • now to the rest of us who'd rather they weren't self-deceiving cretinous pals of paedos..

    Sturgeon's office 'tried to stop publication of Mackay schoolboy story'

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/07/derek-mackay-scottish-government-challenge-nicola-sturgeon-messages-the-sun
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,813
    felix said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Spectacular Tory gain from the LDs in Oadby and Wigston on a swing of 26%. This was expected to be an easy LD hold.

    Not according to the Britain elects summary:

    "Wigston Meadowcourt is one of the stronger Conservative wards in the district and was the only ward in either Oadby or Wigston to return a full slate of Tory councillors in 2007. However, the last Conservative seat in the ward disappeared in 2019, when the Lib Dems won here by a 52-34 margin. Robert Eaton, who passed away between Christmas and New Year, had served as a councillor here since 2011.

    The Lib Dems do have work to do to hold this one. Almost all of this ward is covered by the East Wigston division of Leicestershire county council, which the Tories came just 98 votes short of winning last year."

    https://www.britainelects.com/2022/02/17/previewing-the-council-by-elections-of-17-feb-2022/
    The Tories haven't topped the poll in this ward for 15 years. The figures are on this page.

    https://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/15955/local-council-elections-17th-february
    It's a seriously impressive result - not just for the win, but also for the size of it.

    With that said, it's also entirely possible there are local factors of which we do not know.
    With each passing week every Conservative success in swing or gain is always somehow a 'special circumstances' result.
    Do we ever learn anything of value, one way or the other, from poring over the results of local council by-elections?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,332

    Well, that's the archbish sorted out the one person that expects Royals to be superhuman saints, now to the rest of us who'd rather they weren't self-deceiving cretinous pals of paedos..


    Is the archbish the one pushing the new ditty:

    Oh the grand old Duke of York,
    He had ten million quid,
    He gave it to someone he never met,
    For something he never did.
  • now to the rest of us who'd rather they weren't self-deceiving cretinous pals of paedos..

    Sturgeon's office 'tried to stop publication of Mackay schoolboy story'

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/07/derek-mackay-scottish-government-challenge-nicola-sturgeon-messages-the-sun
    Your first whataboutery of the morning, not your last I daresay.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,350
    pigeon said:

    felix said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Spectacular Tory gain from the LDs in Oadby and Wigston on a swing of 26%. This was expected to be an easy LD hold.

    Not according to the Britain elects summary:

    "Wigston Meadowcourt is one of the stronger Conservative wards in the district and was the only ward in either Oadby or Wigston to return a full slate of Tory councillors in 2007. However, the last Conservative seat in the ward disappeared in 2019, when the Lib Dems won here by a 52-34 margin. Robert Eaton, who passed away between Christmas and New Year, had served as a councillor here since 2011.

    The Lib Dems do have work to do to hold this one. Almost all of this ward is covered by the East Wigston division of Leicestershire county council, which the Tories came just 98 votes short of winning last year."

    https://www.britainelects.com/2022/02/17/previewing-the-council-by-elections-of-17-feb-2022/
    The Tories haven't topped the poll in this ward for 15 years. The figures are on this page.

    https://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/15955/local-council-elections-17th-february
    It's a seriously impressive result - not just for the win, but also for the size of it.

    With that said, it's also entirely possible there are local factors of which we do not know.
    With each passing week every Conservative success in swing or gain is always somehow a 'special circumstances' result.
    Do we ever learn anything of value, one way or the other, from poring over the results of local council by-elections?
    Even when there’s wars, storms and arguments about birthday cakes going on, there’s always time on here to pore over local council by-election results.
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,077
    Stay safe folks
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,332

    now to the rest of us who'd rather they weren't self-deceiving cretinous pals of paedos..

    Sturgeon's office 'tried to stop publication of Mackay schoolboy story'

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/07/derek-mackay-scottish-government-challenge-nicola-sturgeon-messages-the-sun
    Your first whataboutery of the morning, not your last I daresay.
    An absurd story. Where on earth would Nicola get the idea of using a super injunction to stop the media from reporting a story about someone's sexual orientation and inclination on the basis of their right to privacy?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,649

    now to the rest of us who'd rather they weren't self-deceiving cretinous pals of paedos..

    Sturgeon's office 'tried to stop publication of Mackay schoolboy story'

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/07/derek-mackay-scottish-government-challenge-nicola-sturgeon-messages-the-sun
    Your first whataboutery of the morning, not your last I daresay.
    I’m sure a Salmond or two will leap in somewhere.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 47,761
    pigeon said:

    felix said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Spectacular Tory gain from the LDs in Oadby and Wigston on a swing of 26%. This was expected to be an easy LD hold.

    Not according to the Britain elects summary:

    "Wigston Meadowcourt is one of the stronger Conservative wards in the district and was the only ward in either Oadby or Wigston to return a full slate of Tory councillors in 2007. However, the last Conservative seat in the ward disappeared in 2019, when the Lib Dems won here by a 52-34 margin. Robert Eaton, who passed away between Christmas and New Year, had served as a councillor here since 2011.

    The Lib Dems do have work to do to hold this one. Almost all of this ward is covered by the East Wigston division of Leicestershire county council, which the Tories came just 98 votes short of winning last year."

    https://www.britainelects.com/2022/02/17/previewing-the-council-by-elections-of-17-feb-2022/
    The Tories haven't topped the poll in this ward for 15 years. The figures are on this page.

    https://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/15955/local-council-elections-17th-february
    It's a seriously impressive result - not just for the win, but also for the size of it.

    With that said, it's also entirely possible there are local factors of which we do not know.
    With each passing week every Conservative success in swing or gain is always somehow a 'special circumstances' result.
    Do we ever learn anything of value, one way or the other, from poring over the results of local council by-elections?
    Something I observe is that the Conservative Party is more popular than its leader, and that Labour haven't clinched the deal. I don't think the May elections will be bad enough to spur the Tories to dump Johnson.
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,077
    Angela Rayner says police should shoot terrorists first and ask questions second. Wtf?

    I've woken up in an alternate universe

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/17/angela-rayner-police-should-shoot-terrorists-and-ask-questions-second
  • Russian state media is claiming that Ukraine has violated the Minsk ceasefire. (I'm not going to retweet their #FalseFlag #Propaganda)

    https://twitter.com/Frances_Coppola/status/1494569305324859399
  • Jonathan said:

    Sunak blew it. You rarely get a second chance. Lacks Boris’ killer instinct.

    So did Boris in 2016.
  • DavidL said:

    now to the rest of us who'd rather they weren't self-deceiving cretinous pals of paedos..

    Sturgeon's office 'tried to stop publication of Mackay schoolboy story'

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/07/derek-mackay-scottish-government-challenge-nicola-sturgeon-messages-the-sun
    Your first whataboutery of the morning, not your last I daresay.
    An absurd story. Where on earth would Nicola get the idea of using a super injunction to stop the media from reporting a story about someone's sexual orientation and inclination on the basis of their right to privacy?
    I see you're gone full YOONon.

    Was it you who put the FOI on Sturgeon's movements because you were obsessed with idea that she'd had gone on holiday to Faro to some kind of sapphic love nest?
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 7,852
    edited February 2022
    pigeon said:

    felix said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Spectacular Tory gain from the LDs in Oadby and Wigston on a swing of 26%. This was expected to be an easy LD hold.

    Not according to the Britain elects summary:

    "Wigston Meadowcourt is one of the stronger Conservative wards in the district and was the only ward in either Oadby or Wigston to return a full slate of Tory councillors in 2007. However, the last Conservative seat in the ward disappeared in 2019, when the Lib Dems won here by a 52-34 margin. Robert Eaton, who passed away between Christmas and New Year, had served as a councillor here since 2011.

    The Lib Dems do have work to do to hold this one. Almost all of this ward is covered by the East Wigston division of Leicestershire county council, which the Tories came just 98 votes short of winning last year."

    https://www.britainelects.com/2022/02/17/previewing-the-council-by-elections-of-17-feb-2022/
    The Tories haven't topped the poll in this ward for 15 years. The figures are on this page.

    https://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/15955/local-council-elections-17th-february
    It's a seriously impressive result - not just for the win, but also for the size of it.

    With that said, it's also entirely possible there are local factors of which we do not know.
    With each passing week every Conservative success in swing or gain is always somehow a 'special circumstances' result.
    Do we ever learn anything of value, one way or the other, from poring over the results of local council by-elections?
    We learn who thinks they can divine the future from poking at the entrails of a chicken

    Edit; damn. Beaten by @DavidL
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,332

    DavidL said:

    now to the rest of us who'd rather they weren't self-deceiving cretinous pals of paedos..

    Sturgeon's office 'tried to stop publication of Mackay schoolboy story'

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/07/derek-mackay-scottish-government-challenge-nicola-sturgeon-messages-the-sun
    Your first whataboutery of the morning, not your last I daresay.
    An absurd story. Where on earth would Nicola get the idea of using a super injunction to stop the media from reporting a story about someone's sexual orientation and inclination on the basis of their right to privacy?
    I see you're gone full YOONon.

    Was it you who put the FOI on Sturgeon's movements because you were obsessed with idea that she'd had gone on holiday to Faro to some kind of sapphic love nest?
    Sorry to disappoint. I have never put in a FOI request for myself in my entire life.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 41,478
    edited February 2022
    Anyone got access to the world's smallest violin?

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/02/tesla-claims-sec-is-harassing-elon-musk-to-muzzle-his-criticism-of-government/

    Apparently the SEC is bullying the world's richest man because of the sh*t he says on Twitter....

    Edit: and he also compared Justin Trudeau to Hitler.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/elon-musk-tweets-then-deletes-meme-comparing-trudeau-hitler-2022-02-17/
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,649

    Russian state media is claiming that Ukraine has violated the Minsk ceasefire. (I'm not going to retweet their #FalseFlag #Propaganda)

    https://twitter.com/Frances_Coppola/status/1494569305324859399

    There's a certain macabre irony in a claim that Ukraine is violating the Minsk ceasefire by letting a bunch of Russian special forces shell a nursery.

    On a more serious point, isn't Putin cutting it rather fine? The campaigning season is nearly over and he still hasn't invaded. Perhaps he's nervous in light of how much everyone is swatting away his risible claims? He must have hoped for more than a few of the useful idiots to swallow them.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 7,911
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    now to the rest of us who'd rather they weren't self-deceiving cretinous pals of paedos..

    Sturgeon's office 'tried to stop publication of Mackay schoolboy story'

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/07/derek-mackay-scottish-government-challenge-nicola-sturgeon-messages-the-sun
    Your first whataboutery of the morning, not your last I daresay.
    An absurd story. Where on earth would Nicola get the idea of using a super injunction to stop the media from reporting a story about someone's sexual orientation and inclination on the basis of their right to privacy?
    I see you're gone full YOONon.

    Was it you who put the FOI on Sturgeon's movements because you were obsessed with idea that she'd had gone on holiday to Faro to some kind of sapphic love nest?
    Sorry to disappoint. I have never put in a FOI request for myself in my entire life.
    For yourself?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,332

    pigeon said:

    felix said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Spectacular Tory gain from the LDs in Oadby and Wigston on a swing of 26%. This was expected to be an easy LD hold.

    Not according to the Britain elects summary:

    "Wigston Meadowcourt is one of the stronger Conservative wards in the district and was the only ward in either Oadby or Wigston to return a full slate of Tory councillors in 2007. However, the last Conservative seat in the ward disappeared in 2019, when the Lib Dems won here by a 52-34 margin. Robert Eaton, who passed away between Christmas and New Year, had served as a councillor here since 2011.

    The Lib Dems do have work to do to hold this one. Almost all of this ward is covered by the East Wigston division of Leicestershire county council, which the Tories came just 98 votes short of winning last year."

    https://www.britainelects.com/2022/02/17/previewing-the-council-by-elections-of-17-feb-2022/
    The Tories haven't topped the poll in this ward for 15 years. The figures are on this page.

    https://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/15955/local-council-elections-17th-february
    It's a seriously impressive result - not just for the win, but also for the size of it.

    With that said, it's also entirely possible there are local factors of which we do not know.
    With each passing week every Conservative success in swing or gain is always somehow a 'special circumstances' result.
    Do we ever learn anything of value, one way or the other, from poring over the results of local council by-elections?
    We learn who thinks they can divine the future from poking at the entrails of a chicken

    Edit; damn. Beaten by @DavidL
    Fools seldom differ, sadly.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 7,852
    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Jonathan said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Note too we had a non Oxford graduate as PM just 12 years ago, Gordon Brown and just 13 years before that too, John Major.

    Starmer might have an Oxford postgraduate degree but he did his undergraduate degree at Leeds

    Brown never won an election and Major did not go to university
    So what, they were still both PMs who did not go to Oxford University
    No grauduate if a University other than Oxfords has led his party to a General Election victory since 1935
    Though Brown, a graduate of Edinburgh, was not outright defeated by Oxford educated Cameron in 2010 and Oxford educated May failed to outright defeat non Oxford educated Corbyn in 2017. Note too non Oxford educated Churchill beat Oxford graduate Attlee in 1951.

    However a lot of general elections have been Oxford graduate v Oxford graduate eg 1955, 1959, 1964, 1966, 1970, 1974, 1983, 2001 and 2015 or Oxford v Cambridge ie 2005, so Oxford or at least Oxbridge, could not lose those general elections anyway.
    Oxford does seem to let people down. It’s graduates to tend to go on about it a tad. Life somehow seems to stop there.
    Unless you also become a self made multi-millionaire or a billionaire (or indeed PM) going to Oxford is probably the highlight of your life if you get in
    I had a fantastic three years at Cambridge, and I've even been back for (one of) the reunions. And I still have some great friends from my time there.

    But it was not the highlight of my life.
    Radiohead gig ?
    Is that what they are calling “Chinese water torture” these days?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,332
    Eabhal said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    now to the rest of us who'd rather they weren't self-deceiving cretinous pals of paedos..

    Sturgeon's office 'tried to stop publication of Mackay schoolboy story'

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/07/derek-mackay-scottish-government-challenge-nicola-sturgeon-messages-the-sun
    Your first whataboutery of the morning, not your last I daresay.
    An absurd story. Where on earth would Nicola get the idea of using a super injunction to stop the media from reporting a story about someone's sexual orientation and inclination on the basis of their right to privacy?
    I see you're gone full YOONon.

    Was it you who put the FOI on Sturgeon's movements because you were obsessed with idea that she'd had gone on holiday to Faro to some kind of sapphic love nest?
    Sorry to disappoint. I have never put in a FOI request for myself in my entire life.
    For yourself?
    Some of my clients seem to think that they are some sort of magical alchemy. In my experience they are usually disappointed.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 47,761
    ydoethur said:

    Russian state media is claiming that Ukraine has violated the Minsk ceasefire. (I'm not going to retweet their #FalseFlag #Propaganda)

    https://twitter.com/Frances_Coppola/status/1494569305324859399

    There's a certain macabre irony in a claim that Ukraine is violating the Minsk ceasefire by letting a bunch of Russian special forces shell a nursery.

    On a more serious point, isn't Putin cutting it rather fine? The campaigning season is nearly over and he still hasn't invaded. Perhaps he's nervous in light of how much everyone is swatting away his risible claims? He must have hoped for more than a few of the useful idiots to swallow them.
    I think the effect on armoured warfare of a spring thaw and mud isn't what it was in the 1940s.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,350
    ydoethur said:

    Russian state media is claiming that Ukraine has violated the Minsk ceasefire. (I'm not going to retweet their #FalseFlag #Propaganda)

    https://twitter.com/Frances_Coppola/status/1494569305324859399

    There's a certain macabre irony in a claim that Ukraine is violating the Minsk ceasefire by letting a bunch of Russian special forces shell a nursery.

    On a more serious point, isn't Putin cutting it rather fine? The campaigning season is nearly over and he still hasn't invaded. Perhaps he's nervous in light of how much everyone is swatting away his risible claims? He must have hoped for more than a few of the useful idiots to swallow them.
    Don’t also forget that the bombed nursery is in Ukraine. So he’s saying that the bombing of a nursery in Ukraine (by Russians), is evidence of Ukranian agreesion against Russia.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,440
    Today's lewdle has me stumped 》《
  • DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    now to the rest of us who'd rather they weren't self-deceiving cretinous pals of paedos..

    Sturgeon's office 'tried to stop publication of Mackay schoolboy story'

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/07/derek-mackay-scottish-government-challenge-nicola-sturgeon-messages-the-sun
    Your first whataboutery of the morning, not your last I daresay.
    An absurd story. Where on earth would Nicola get the idea of using a super injunction to stop the media from reporting a story about someone's sexual orientation and inclination on the basis of their right to privacy?
    I see you're gone full YOONon.

    Was it you who put the FOI on Sturgeon's movements because you were obsessed with idea that she'd had gone on holiday to Faro to some kind of sapphic love nest?
    Sorry to disappoint. I have never put in a FOI request for myself in my entire life.
    It wouldn't be for yourself, it would be for...The Union!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 68,784
    .

    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Jonathan said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Note too we had a non Oxford graduate as PM just 12 years ago, Gordon Brown and just 13 years before that too, John Major.

    Starmer might have an Oxford postgraduate degree but he did his undergraduate degree at Leeds

    Brown never won an election and Major did not go to university
    So what, they were still both PMs who did not go to Oxford University
    No grauduate if a University other than Oxfords has led his party to a General Election victory since 1935
    Though Brown, a graduate of Edinburgh, was not outright defeated by Oxford educated Cameron in 2010 and Oxford educated May failed to outright defeat non Oxford educated Corbyn in 2017. Note too non Oxford educated Churchill beat Oxford graduate Attlee in 1951.

    However a lot of general elections have been Oxford graduate v Oxford graduate eg 1955, 1959, 1964, 1966, 1970, 1974, 1983, 2001 and 2015 or Oxford v Cambridge ie 2005, so Oxford or at least Oxbridge, could not lose those general elections anyway.
    Oxford does seem to let people down. It’s graduates to tend to go on about it a tad. Life somehow seems to stop there.
    Unless you also become a self made multi-millionaire or a billionaire (or indeed PM) going to Oxford is probably the highlight of your life if you get in
    I had a fantastic three years at Cambridge, and I've even been back for (one of) the reunions. And I still have some great friends from my time there.

    But it was not the highlight of my life.
    Radiohead gig ?
    Is that what they are calling “Chinese water torture” these days?
    Such questions are not to be answered.
    I'm not sure what is the policy towards those who ask them.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,332

    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Jonathan said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Note too we had a non Oxford graduate as PM just 12 years ago, Gordon Brown and just 13 years before that too, John Major.

    Starmer might have an Oxford postgraduate degree but he did his undergraduate degree at Leeds

    Brown never won an election and Major did not go to university
    So what, they were still both PMs who did not go to Oxford University
    No grauduate if a University other than Oxfords has led his party to a General Election victory since 1935
    Though Brown, a graduate of Edinburgh, was not outright defeated by Oxford educated Cameron in 2010 and Oxford educated May failed to outright defeat non Oxford educated Corbyn in 2017. Note too non Oxford educated Churchill beat Oxford graduate Attlee in 1951.

    However a lot of general elections have been Oxford graduate v Oxford graduate eg 1955, 1959, 1964, 1966, 1970, 1974, 1983, 2001 and 2015 or Oxford v Cambridge ie 2005, so Oxford or at least Oxbridge, could not lose those general elections anyway.
    Oxford does seem to let people down. It’s graduates to tend to go on about it a tad. Life somehow seems to stop there.
    Unless you also become a self made multi-millionaire or a billionaire (or indeed PM) going to Oxford is probably the highlight of your life if you get in
    I had a fantastic three years at Cambridge, and I've even been back for (one of) the reunions. And I still have some great friends from my time there.

    But it was not the highlight of my life.
    Radiohead gig ?
    Is that what they are calling “Chinese water torture” these days?
    One of their better albums, to be sure.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,649
    edited February 2022
    Sandpit said:

    ydoethur said:

    Russian state media is claiming that Ukraine has violated the Minsk ceasefire. (I'm not going to retweet their #FalseFlag #Propaganda)

    https://twitter.com/Frances_Coppola/status/1494569305324859399

    There's a certain macabre irony in a claim that Ukraine is violating the Minsk ceasefire by letting a bunch of Russian special forces shell a nursery.

    On a more serious point, isn't Putin cutting it rather fine? The campaigning season is nearly over and he still hasn't invaded. Perhaps he's nervous in light of how much everyone is swatting away his risible claims? He must have hoped for more than a few of the useful idiots to swallow them.
    Don’t also forget that the bombed nursery is in Ukraine. So he’s saying that the bombing of a nursery in Ukraine (by Russians), is evidence of Ukranian agreesion against Russia.
    I didn't forget. That was literally the first thing I said!

    Edit - ah, now I understand. No, I hadn't forgotten it was in Ukraine, I just hadn't seen the need to make that specific point. No fighting will be occurring in Russia.
  • pigeon said:

    Sandpit said:

    Morning all,

    Good luck to those in the path of Storm Eunice today, sounds like it’s going to be a bad one. Batten down the hatches and stay indoors.

    Would be nice to have the option, but a lot of us are going to be forced to go to work in this (and the wind warning for when I'll be coming back home again later today has been upgraded overnight to Red...)

    It's only about a ten minute walk but I'm still not looking forward to it. At all.
    Look out for flying roof tiles and don't walk near the pavement edge. That's what I remember from 1987.
  • 'Is it ok to touch the joystick?'


  • TIP: power up your devices now if you can, in case of power interruptions later...you may need the juice 🧃⚡️😁 #StormEunice

    https://twitter.com/Schafernaker/status/1494573364219985921
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677

    'Is it ok to touch the joystick?'


    110kg upper weight limit for Mk.16 MB. He's fucked.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,649
    Dura_Ace said:

    'Is it ok to touch the joystick?'


    110kg upper weight limit for Mk.16 MB. He's fucked.
    Well, given Johnson's record he's probably not unhappy with that outcome...
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,332
    Dura_Ace said:

    'Is it ok to touch the joystick?'


    110kg upper weight limit for Mk.16 MB. He's fucked.
    They are not exactly going to let him fly it, are they? This is not Independence day.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,649
    DavidL said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    'Is it ok to touch the joystick?'


    110kg upper weight limit for Mk.16 MB. He's fucked.
    They are not exactly going to let him fly it, are they? This is not Independence day.
    Pity. He could have been a latter day Mathias Rust. Preferably with a longer prison sentence...

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20170526-the-audacious-pilot-who-landed-in-red-square
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,350
    Dura_Ace said:

    'Is it ok to touch the joystick?'


    110kg upper weight limit for Mk.16 MB. He's fucked.
    He’s there to do some testing for Martin-Baker.

    Now, what’s this black and yellow thingy between my legs…?
  • A little levity….Titanic, with a cat

    https://twitter.com/Owl__Kitty/status/1492783828704055297
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,362
    After 12 years in power, Britain’s Conservative MPs have become careless of the law and addicted to protest and rebellion. Instead of governing, they posture and grandstand https://econ.st/3v28BZ8
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,052
    edited February 2022
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Jonathan said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Note too we had a non Oxford graduate as PM just 12 years ago, Gordon Brown and just 13 years before that too, John Major.

    Starmer might have an Oxford postgraduate degree but he did his undergraduate degree at Leeds

    Brown never won an election and Major did not go to university
    So what, they were still both PMs who did not go to Oxford University
    No grauduate if a University other than Oxfords has led his party to a General Election victory since 1935
    Though Brown, a graduate of Edinburgh, was not outright defeated by Oxford educated Cameron in 2010 and Oxford educated May failed to outright defeat non Oxford educated Corbyn in 2017. Note too non Oxford educated Churchill beat Oxford graduate Attlee in 1951.

    However a lot of general elections have been Oxford graduate v Oxford graduate eg 1955, 1959, 1964, 1966, 1970, 1974, 1983, 2001 and 2015 or Oxford v Cambridge ie 2005, so Oxford or at least Oxbridge, could not lose those general elections anyway.
    Oxford does seem to let people down. It’s graduates to tend to go on about it a tad. Life somehow seems to stop there.
    Unless you also become a self made multi-millionaire or a billionaire (or indeed PM) going to Oxford is probably the highlight of your life if you get in
    I had a fantastic three years at Cambridge, and I've even been back for (one of) the reunions. And I still have some great friends from my time there.

    But it was not the highlight of my life.
    Given you are ex Goldman Sachs and work in financial services I assume you are a multi-millionare or close to it so therefore excluded from my category of Oxbridge graduates for whom it was the highlight of their life
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,596

    pigeon said:

    Sandpit said:

    Morning all,

    Good luck to those in the path of Storm Eunice today, sounds like it’s going to be a bad one. Batten down the hatches and stay indoors.

    Would be nice to have the option, but a lot of us are going to be forced to go to work in this (and the wind warning for when I'll be coming back home again later today has been upgraded overnight to Red...)

    It's only about a ten minute walk but I'm still not looking forward to it. At all.
    Look out for flying roof tiles and don't walk near the pavement edge. That's what I remember from 1987.
    I went out just now and it was a bit gusty but nothing unusual, so far. Certainly nothing like the approach of Sandy, which I remember clearly having been on the US east coast at the time.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677
    DavidL said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    'Is it ok to touch the joystick?'


    110kg upper weight limit for Mk.16 MB. He's fucked.
    They are not exactly going to let him fly it, are they? This is not Independence day.
    There's always the hope that a ginger has left the pins out and he wonders what that big black and yellow handle does.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,350
    Angelsey airport reporting 25kt winds and 982mb pressure. Storm is on its way.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,052
    edited February 2022
    Red warning for London and the South East from 10am as Storm Eunice forecast to be one of the worst storms in the UK for decades

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-60421388
  • Morning all! Still waiting for the big dump of snow - appears to have fizzled to the south of us. The boy's school is shut today due to the snow warning (primarily because getting transport for the 70% who travel by bus this afternoon could be *fun*). A bit of moaning on Facebook, but they'd have been moaning more had the school been trying to summon them to collect sprog this afternoon.

    Went out for a blow yesterday in the calm between the two storms. Blustery here inland, but walked around Kinnaird Head at lunchtime and needed to hold onto my woolly hat as the wind was trying to remove it from my head (and my feet from the path). And that is calm compared to what the Severn Estuary is getting. Stay safe everyone.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,596
    ydoethur said:

    DavidL said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    'Is it ok to touch the joystick?'


    110kg upper weight limit for Mk.16 MB. He's fucked.
    They are not exactly going to let him fly it, are they? This is not Independence day.
    Pity. He could have been a latter day Mathias Rust. Preferably with a longer prison sentence...

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20170526-the-audacious-pilot-who-landed-in-red-square
    That was a feat of navigation of which the clown, who doesn’t know where he is going on a normal day, would not be capable.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,052
    edited February 2022

    Well, that's the archbish sorted out the one person that expects Royals to be superhuman saints, now to the rest of us who'd rather they weren't self-deceiving cretinous pals of paedos..


    The Church of England was founded by Henry VIII precisely because he was not a superhuman Saint but wanted to divorce Catherine of Aragon to marry Anne Boleyn and the Pope would not allow it.

    The Archbishop of Canterbury should live a Saintly life, the monarch does not have to, though it helps if like the Queen they live close to it
  • No audible winds here yet, not like Wednesday which was utterly vile. It seems like the worst of it will be further South though?

    Stay safe everyone.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 68,784
    Sandpit said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    'Is it ok to touch the joystick?'


    110kg upper weight limit for Mk.16 MB. He's fucked.
    Now, what’s this black and yellow thingy between my legs…?
    Eeeeeeeew.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 51,742
    DavidL said:

    Eabhal said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    now to the rest of us who'd rather they weren't self-deceiving cretinous pals of paedos..

    Sturgeon's office 'tried to stop publication of Mackay schoolboy story'

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/07/derek-mackay-scottish-government-challenge-nicola-sturgeon-messages-the-sun
    Your first whataboutery of the morning, not your last I daresay.
    An absurd story. Where on earth would Nicola get the idea of using a super injunction to stop the media from reporting a story about someone's sexual orientation and inclination on the basis of their right to privacy?
    I see you're gone full YOONon.

    Was it you who put the FOI on Sturgeon's movements because you were obsessed with idea that she'd had gone on holiday to Faro to some kind of sapphic love nest?
    Sorry to disappoint. I have never put in a FOI request for myself in my entire life.
    For yourself?
    Some of my clients seem to think that they are some sort of magical alchemy. In my experience they are usually disappointed.
    I though the Russians had a massive force of hovercraft?
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,051

    Anyone got access to the world's smallest violin?

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/02/tesla-claims-sec-is-harassing-elon-musk-to-muzzle-his-criticism-of-government/

    Apparently the SEC is bullying the world's richest man because of the sh*t he says on Twitter....

    Edit: and he also compared Justin Trudeau to Hitler.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/elon-musk-tweets-then-deletes-meme-comparing-trudeau-hitler-2022-02-17/

    Mornin' everybody.

    I'm afraid the worlds smallest violin is in use elsewhere; the BBC has noted 'that Donald Trump and two of his children must answer questions under oath in a New York investigation into their business practices, a judge has ruled.'

    Though what the oaths will be like makes me shudder!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 47,761
    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Jonathan said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Note too we had a non Oxford graduate as PM just 12 years ago, Gordon Brown and just 13 years before that too, John Major.

    Starmer might have an Oxford postgraduate degree but he did his undergraduate degree at Leeds

    Brown never won an election and Major did not go to university
    So what, they were still both PMs who did not go to Oxford University
    No grauduate if a University other than Oxfords has led his party to a General Election victory since 1935
    Though Brown, a graduate of Edinburgh, was not outright defeated by Oxford educated Cameron in 2010 and Oxford educated May failed to outright defeat non Oxford educated Corbyn in 2017. Note too non Oxford educated Churchill beat Oxford graduate Attlee in 1951.

    However a lot of general elections have been Oxford graduate v Oxford graduate eg 1955, 1959, 1964, 1966, 1970, 1974, 1983, 2001 and 2015 or Oxford v Cambridge ie 2005, so Oxford or at least Oxbridge, could not lose those general elections anyway.
    Oxford does seem to let people down. It’s graduates to tend to go on about it a tad. Life somehow seems to stop there.
    Unless you also become a self made multi-millionaire or a billionaire (or indeed PM) going to Oxford is probably the highlight of your life if you get in
    I had a fantastic three years at Cambridge, and I've even been back for (one of) the reunions. And I still have some great friends from my time there.

    But it was not the highlight of my life.
    Given you are ex Goldman Sachs and work in financial services I assume you are a multi-millionare or close to it so therefore excluded from my category of Oxbridge graduates for whom it was the highlight of their life
    I don't think any of my family or friends who went to Oxford or Cambridge are millionaires and while they mostly had a good time, I cannot recall any of them speaking of it as the highlight of their life. Two friends of mine hated it there and were much happier to complete there studies elsewhere.

    One of my nieces has just been accepted by Churchill college to do maths. Quite a bright lass.
  • Good morning, everyone.

    Computer being slow as a slow thing.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677
    HYUFD said:



    The Archbishop of Canterbury should live a Saintly life

    Runcie was once memorably described in Dear Bill as 'no mean slayer of the bosch' for his WW2 service.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,052
    edited February 2022
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Note too we had a non Oxford graduate as PM just 12 years ago, Gordon Brown and just 13 years before that too, John Major.

    Starmer might have an Oxford postgraduate degree but he did his undergraduate degree at Leeds

    Brown never won an election and Major did not go to university
    So what, they were still both PMs who did not go to Oxford University
    The point is that there hasn't been a graduate of a University other that Oxford who won a UK General Election since Baldwin nearly a century ago.
    There haven't been many Tory or Labour leaders at a general election who were first graduates and second graduates of a University other than Oxford.

    In fact only Kinnock, a Cardiff graduate and Brown, an Edinburgh graduate and Howard, a Cambridge graduate come under that category since Cambridge graduate Baldwin won in 1935 and Kinnock almost won in 1992 and Brown was not defeated in 2010, Cameron won most seats but failed to get a majority. Howard also slashed the Labour majority by over 100 in 2005.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 41,478

    Morning all! Still waiting for the big dump of snow - appears to have fizzled to the south of us. The boy's school is shut today due to the snow warning (primarily because getting transport for the 70% who travel by bus this afternoon could be *fun*). A bit of moaning on Facebook, but they'd have been moaning more had the school been trying to summon them to collect sprog this afternoon.

    Went out for a blow yesterday in the calm between the two storms. Blustery here inland, but walked around Kinnaird Head at lunchtime and needed to hold onto my woolly hat as the wind was trying to remove it from my head (and my feet from the path). And that is calm compared to what the Severn Estuary is getting. Stay safe everyone.

    My school was on the to of a sometimes-bleak Staffordhsire hillside, above the JCB factory. One snowy day my dad picked me up in a JCB, having cleared the road up the hill on the way. He was followed by a procession of struggling cars.

    We had kids picked up n Rollers, BMWs, Mercs and some rather posh cars. My dad sometimes picked me up in JCBs and lorries...

    (AFAIK it is now illegal to take passengers in a JCB.)
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,350

    Good morning, everyone.

    Computer being slow as a slow thing.

    Go to Task Manager > Show Details > Startup
    This shows all the programs that start up with the computer. Set them all to disabled and reboot.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,051
    HYUFD said:

    Red warning for London and the South East from 10am as Storm Eunice forecast to be one of the worst storms in the UK for decades

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-60421388

    I remember waking up on the morning of the Great Storm in 1987 and seeing what appeared to be low-level lightening flashes. The overhead cables on the railway a couple of miles away were swinging so much they were clashing and sparking.
    Later on I walked to work along the A13, where had been a row of poplar trees. Nearly all of them were down, and across the road.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,350

    HYUFD said:

    Red warning for London and the South East from 10am as Storm Eunice forecast to be one of the worst storms in the UK for decades

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-60421388

    I remember waking up on the morning of the Great Storm in 1987 and seeing what appeared to be low-level lightening flashes. The overhead cables on the railway a couple of miles away were swinging so much they were clashing and sparking.
    Later on I walked to work along the A13, where had been a row of poplar trees. Nearly all of them were down, and across the road.
    That was the night that Sevenoaks in Kent, became Oneoak.
  • Morning all! Still waiting for the big dump of snow - appears to have fizzled to the south of us. The boy's school is shut today due to the snow warning (primarily because getting transport for the 70% who travel by bus this afternoon could be *fun*). A bit of moaning on Facebook, but they'd have been moaning more had the school been trying to summon them to collect sprog this afternoon.

    Went out for a blow yesterday in the calm between the two storms. Blustery here inland, but walked around Kinnaird Head at lunchtime and needed to hold onto my woolly hat as the wind was trying to remove it from my head (and my feet from the path). And that is calm compared to what the Severn Estuary is getting. Stay safe everyone.

    My school was on the to of a sometimes-bleak Staffordhsire hillside, above the JCB factory. One snowy day my dad picked me up in a JCB, having cleared the road up the hill on the way. He was followed by a procession of struggling cars.

    We had kids picked up n Rollers, BMWs, Mercs and some rather posh cars. My dad sometimes picked me up in JCBs and lorries...

    (AFAIK it is now illegal to take passengers in a JCB.)
    Kids! Would you prefer to arrive at school in a Roller or a JCB?

    Deffo the JCB...
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,051
    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Jonathan said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Note too we had a non Oxford graduate as PM just 12 years ago, Gordon Brown and just 13 years before that too, John Major.

    Starmer might have an Oxford postgraduate degree but he did his undergraduate degree at Leeds

    Brown never won an election and Major did not go to university
    So what, they were still both PMs who did not go to Oxford University
    No grauduate if a University other than Oxfords has led his party to a General Election victory since 1935
    Though Brown, a graduate of Edinburgh, was not outright defeated by Oxford educated Cameron in 2010 and Oxford educated May failed to outright defeat non Oxford educated Corbyn in 2017. Note too non Oxford educated Churchill beat Oxford graduate Attlee in 1951.

    However a lot of general elections have been Oxford graduate v Oxford graduate eg 1955, 1959, 1964, 1966, 1970, 1974, 1983, 2001 and 2015 or Oxford v Cambridge ie 2005, so Oxford or at least Oxbridge, could not lose those general elections anyway.
    Oxford does seem to let people down. It’s graduates to tend to go on about it a tad. Life somehow seems to stop there.
    Unless you also become a self made multi-millionaire or a billionaire (or indeed PM) going to Oxford is probably the highlight of your life if you get in
    I had a fantastic three years at Cambridge, and I've even been back for (one of) the reunions. And I still have some great friends from my time there.

    But it was not the highlight of my life.
    Given you are ex Goldman Sachs and work in financial services I assume you are a multi-millionare or close to it so therefore excluded from my category of Oxbridge graduates for whom it was the highlight of their life
    I don't think any of my family or friends who went to Oxford or Cambridge are millionaires and while they mostly had a good time, I cannot recall any of them speaking of it as the highlight of their life. Two friends of mine hated it there and were much happier to complete there studies elsewhere.

    One of my nieces has just been accepted by Churchill college to do maths. Quite a bright lass.
    Congrats to her. Best of luck.
    Friend of mine went to Cambridge and, not long after graduating got a job lecturing at another Uni. On retirement he was straight back to Cambridge to live.
  • HYUFD said:

    Red warning for London and the South East from 10am as Storm Eunice forecast to be one of the worst storms in the UK for decades

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-60421388

    I remember waking up on the morning of the Great Storm in 1987 and seeing what appeared to be low-level lightening flashes. The overhead cables on the railway a couple of miles away were swinging so much they were clashing and sparking.
    Later on I walked to work along the A13, where had been a row of poplar trees. Nearly all of them were down, and across the road.
    In 1987, pylons and downed cables were quickly repaired because the CEGB could bring workers down from up north. Thanks to privatisation, that might no longer be an option.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 68,784
    Dura_Ace said:

    HYUFD said:



    The Archbishop of Canterbury should live a Saintly life

    Runcie was once memorably described in Dear Bill as 'no mean slayer of the bosch' for his WW2 service.
    Took out a dishwasher factory singlehanded ?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,052
    Dura_Ace said:

    HYUFD said:



    The Archbishop of Canterbury should live a Saintly life

    Runcie was once memorably described in Dear Bill as 'no mean slayer of the bosch' for his WW2 service.
    In fighting the godly fight nothing wrong with that, see the Old Testament and fighting the Nazis was certainly a godly fight
  • Strong indications Putin hoped he could goad Zelensky into doing something rash, just as he did Georgia's Saakashvili in 2008 (perhaps assuming that *surely* a populist former comedian would be easy to provoke). Yet Zelensky and 🇺🇦 at large are remaining remarkably disciplined.

    Ukrainian discipline + radical transparency from US and its allies (putting intel on attack plans, possible false flags etc into public domain) = harder for Putin to manufacture a pretext, catch opponents off guard and claim defensive motives. It shrinks the grey zone.


    https://twitter.com/jeremycliffe/status/1494575382598672384?s=21
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,596
    edited February 2022
    This is quite a handy site for showing where the strong winds are (drag the map to the east). Currently in the southern Irish Sea

    https://www.radar-live.com/

    edit/ or here, which appears to be the original:

    https://www.windy.com/?50.671,-1.189,5
  • Sandpit said:

    Good morning, everyone.

    Computer being slow as a slow thing.

    Go to Task Manager > Show Details > Startup
    This shows all the programs that start up with the computer. Set them all to disabled and reboot.
    While you are running Task Manager, see if it is memory, cpu or io that you are short of. Also, is your main disk hdd or ssd?

    Also, check it is not downloading any patches for Windows or your browser.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,052

    HYUFD said:

    Red warning for London and the South East from 10am as Storm Eunice forecast to be one of the worst storms in the UK for decades

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-60421388

    I remember waking up on the morning of the Great Storm in 1987 and seeing what appeared to be low-level lightening flashes. The overhead cables on the railway a couple of miles away were swinging so much they were clashing and sparking.
    Later on I walked to work along the A13, where had been a row of poplar trees. Nearly all of them were down, and across the road.
    Yes I just about remember the 1987 storm and the lights going out and trees down.

    Wind already howling quite strongly here
  • HYUFD said:

    Jonathan said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Note too we had a non Oxford graduate as PM just 12 years ago, Gordon Brown and just 13 years before that too, John Major.

    Starmer might have an Oxford postgraduate degree but he did his undergraduate degree at Leeds

    Brown never won an election and Major did not go to university
    So what, they were still both PMs who did not go to Oxford University
    No grauduate if a University other than Oxfords has led his party to a General Election victory since 1935
    Though Brown, a graduate of Edinburgh, was not outright defeated by Oxford educated Cameron in 2010 and Oxford educated May failed to outright defeat non Oxford educated Corbyn in 2017. Note too non Oxford educated Churchill beat Oxford graduate Attlee in 1951.

    However a lot of general elections have been Oxford graduate v Oxford graduate eg 1955, 1959, 1964, 1966, 1970, 1974, 1983, 2001 and 2015 or Oxford v Cambridge ie 2005, so Oxford or at least Oxbridge, could not lose those general elections anyway.
    Oxford does seem to let people down. It’s graduates to tend to go on about it a tad. Life somehow seems to stop there.
    Unless you also become a self made multi-millionaire or a billionaire (or indeed PM) going to Oxford is probably the highlight of your life if you get in
    Unless Oxford is radically different to and better than Cambridge I find that hard to believe. I think the people who enjoyed undergraduate life the most were people whose parents could subsidise their lifestyle and who could effortlessly become a member of one of the cliques (journalism, drama, politics) where they could pretend they were already powerful and influential people. For the rest of us it was mostly just hard work, a rather inadequate social life and counting the pennies. I'm glad I went there and I met my wife and other good friends there but it really wasn't the highlight of my life.
  • Yet another news story about a woman exposing her penis in public.

    There must be some explanation for this bizarre rise in sex crimes among women.

    For now, it remains a mystery. 🤷‍♀️


    https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1494493549852864531
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,320
    Very still here on Tyneside
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,332
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Red warning for London and the South East from 10am as Storm Eunice forecast to be one of the worst storms in the UK for decades

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-60421388

    I remember waking up on the morning of the Great Storm in 1987 and seeing what appeared to be low-level lightening flashes. The overhead cables on the railway a couple of miles away were swinging so much they were clashing and sparking.
    Later on I walked to work along the A13, where had been a row of poplar trees. Nearly all of them were down, and across the road.
    Yes I just about remember the 1987 storm and the lights going out and trees down.

    Wind already howling quite strongly here
    Sure that’s not the Nats in the basement?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,350

    Morning all! Still waiting for the big dump of snow - appears to have fizzled to the south of us. The boy's school is shut today due to the snow warning (primarily because getting transport for the 70% who travel by bus this afternoon could be *fun*). A bit of moaning on Facebook, but they'd have been moaning more had the school been trying to summon them to collect sprog this afternoon.

    Went out for a blow yesterday in the calm between the two storms. Blustery here inland, but walked around Kinnaird Head at lunchtime and needed to hold onto my woolly hat as the wind was trying to remove it from my head (and my feet from the path). And that is calm compared to what the Severn Estuary is getting. Stay safe everyone.

    My school was on the to of a sometimes-bleak Staffordhsire hillside, above the JCB factory. One snowy day my dad picked me up in a JCB, having cleared the road up the hill on the way. He was followed by a procession of struggling cars.

    We had kids picked up n Rollers, BMWs, Mercs and some rather posh cars. My dad sometimes picked me up in JCBs and lorries...

    (AFAIK it is now illegal to take passengers in a JCB.)
    Kids! Would you prefer to arrive at school in a Roller or a JCB?

    Deffo the JCB...
    There was even a song about it!

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=rGkseGFQLh4

    “I’m Luke, I’m 5, and my dad’s Bruce Lee, drives me round in his JCB…”
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,596

    Very still here on Tyneside

    Your wind is somewhere else this morning.
  • Wonder where they’re off to?

    https://www.flightradar24.com/ZEUS52/2adbc19c
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 51,742
    HYUFD said:

    Well, that's the archbish sorted out the one person that expects Royals to be superhuman saints, now to the rest of us who'd rather they weren't self-deceiving cretinous pals of paedos..


    The Church of England was founded by Henry VIII precisely because he was not a superhuman Saint but wanted to divorce Catherine of Aragon to marry Anne Boleyn and the Pope would not allow it.

    The Archbishop of Canterbury should live a Saintly life, the monarch does not have to, though it helps if like the Queen they live close to it
    But in the case of Andrew's father, if the stories are true, she too strayed a little....
  • NerysHughesNerysHughes Posts: 3,375
    The weather forecasters have definitely got the timing wrong, its supposed to be 85 mph winds in Southampton now and its only a bit blustery.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,350
    IanB2 said:

    This is quite a handy site for showing where the strong winds are (drag the map to the east). Currently in the southern Irish Sea

    https://www.radar-live.com/

    edit/ or here, which appears to be the original:

    https://www.windy.com/?50.671,-1.189,5

    Newquay airport in Cornwall, winds reported as 38 gusting 51 knots.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 51,742

    Wonder where they’re off to?

    https://www.flightradar24.com/ZEUS52/2adbc19c

    Well, they might just be getting out of Fairford until the wind blows through..... Not much use as a strategic resource if they can't take off.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,517

    HYUFD said:

    Jonathan said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Note too we had a non Oxford graduate as PM just 12 years ago, Gordon Brown and just 13 years before that too, John Major.

    Starmer might have an Oxford postgraduate degree but he did his undergraduate degree at Leeds

    Brown never won an election and Major did not go to university
    So what, they were still both PMs who did not go to Oxford University
    No grauduate if a University other than Oxfords has led his party to a General Election victory since 1935
    Though Brown, a graduate of Edinburgh, was not outright defeated by Oxford educated Cameron in 2010 and Oxford educated May failed to outright defeat non Oxford educated Corbyn in 2017. Note too non Oxford educated Churchill beat Oxford graduate Attlee in 1951.

    However a lot of general elections have been Oxford graduate v Oxford graduate eg 1955, 1959, 1964, 1966, 1970, 1974, 1983, 2001 and 2015 or Oxford v Cambridge ie 2005, so Oxford or at least Oxbridge, could not lose those general elections anyway.
    Oxford does seem to let people down. It’s graduates to tend to go on about it a tad. Life somehow seems to stop there.
    Unless you also become a self made multi-millionaire or a billionaire (or indeed PM) going to Oxford is probably the highlight of your life if you get in
    Unless Oxford is radically different to and better than Cambridge I find that hard to believe. I think the people who enjoyed undergraduate life the most were people whose parents could subsidise their lifestyle and who could effortlessly become a member of one of the cliques (journalism, drama, politics) where they could pretend they were already powerful and influential people. For the rest of us it was mostly just hard work, a rather inadequate social life and counting the pennies. I'm glad I went there and I met my wife and other good friends there but it really wasn't the highlight of my life.
    Although I didn't go to either, so not really qualified to say, university wasn't the highlight of my life. I worked hard and hadn't achieved maturity. My 30s was easily the best time of my life. Matured, had money, single. Out every night and weekend. Sailing, skiing, flying, squash, parties, girlfriends, etc.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,051

    HYUFD said:

    Jonathan said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Note too we had a non Oxford graduate as PM just 12 years ago, Gordon Brown and just 13 years before that too, John Major.

    Starmer might have an Oxford postgraduate degree but he did his undergraduate degree at Leeds

    Brown never won an election and Major did not go to university
    So what, they were still both PMs who did not go to Oxford University
    No grauduate if a University other than Oxfords has led his party to a General Election victory since 1935
    Though Brown, a graduate of Edinburgh, was not outright defeated by Oxford educated Cameron in 2010 and Oxford educated May failed to outright defeat non Oxford educated Corbyn in 2017. Note too non Oxford educated Churchill beat Oxford graduate Attlee in 1951.

    However a lot of general elections have been Oxford graduate v Oxford graduate eg 1955, 1959, 1964, 1966, 1970, 1974, 1983, 2001 and 2015 or Oxford v Cambridge ie 2005, so Oxford or at least Oxbridge, could not lose those general elections anyway.
    Oxford does seem to let people down. It’s graduates to tend to go on about it a tad. Life somehow seems to stop there.
    Unless you also become a self made multi-millionaire or a billionaire (or indeed PM) going to Oxford is probably the highlight of your life if you get in
    Unless Oxford is radically different to and better than Cambridge I find that hard to believe. I think the people who enjoyed undergraduate life the most were people whose parents could subsidise their lifestyle and who could effortlessly become a member of one of the cliques (journalism, drama, politics) where they could pretend they were already powerful and influential people. For the rest of us it was mostly just hard work, a rather inadequate social life and counting the pennies. I'm glad I went there and I met my wife and other good friends there but it really wasn't the highlight of my life.
    I think that our friend believes, possibly rightly, that getting accepted at Oxford, or indeed, Oxbridge, is the highlight of your life, at least to date.
    Whether the reality lives up to expectations is another matter.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,596
    edited February 2022

    The weather forecasters have definitely got the timing wrong, its supposed to be 85 mph winds in Southampton now and its only a bit blustery.

    Newport in the centre of the island is only reporting 20 mph currently
  • Scott_xP said:

    After 12 years in power, Britain’s Conservative MPs have become careless of the law and addicted to protest and rebellion. Instead of governing, they posture and grandstand https://econ.st/3v28BZ8

    With apologies to Clive Baker...
    'The Parties long for each other, like men and women, in order that they may be cured of their excesses.
    ...
    Everything tires with time, and starts to seek some opposition, to save it from itself.'
  • Mr. Sandpit, will try that in a bit (currently ok, and work needs doing, alas). Cheers for the advice.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,332

    HYUFD said:

    Jonathan said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Note too we had a non Oxford graduate as PM just 12 years ago, Gordon Brown and just 13 years before that too, John Major.

    Starmer might have an Oxford postgraduate degree but he did his undergraduate degree at Leeds

    Brown never won an election and Major did not go to university
    So what, they were still both PMs who did not go to Oxford University
    No grauduate if a University other than Oxfords has led his party to a General Election victory since 1935
    Though Brown, a graduate of Edinburgh, was not outright defeated by Oxford educated Cameron in 2010 and Oxford educated May failed to outright defeat non Oxford educated Corbyn in 2017. Note too non Oxford educated Churchill beat Oxford graduate Attlee in 1951.

    However a lot of general elections have been Oxford graduate v Oxford graduate eg 1955, 1959, 1964, 1966, 1970, 1974, 1983, 2001 and 2015 or Oxford v Cambridge ie 2005, so Oxford or at least Oxbridge, could not lose those general elections anyway.
    Oxford does seem to let people down. It’s graduates to tend to go on about it a tad. Life somehow seems to stop there.
    Unless you also become a self made multi-millionaire or a billionaire (or indeed PM) going to Oxford is probably the highlight of your life if you get in
    Unless Oxford is radically different to and better than Cambridge I find that hard to believe. I think the people who enjoyed undergraduate life the most were people whose parents could subsidise their lifestyle and who could effortlessly become a member of one of the cliques (journalism, drama, politics) where they could pretend they were already powerful and influential people. For the rest of us it was mostly just hard work, a rather inadequate social life and counting the pennies. I'm glad I went there and I met my wife and other good friends there but it really wasn't the highlight of my life.
    I think that our friend believes, possibly rightly, that getting accepted at Oxford, or indeed, Oxbridge, is the highlight of your life, at least to date.
    Whether the reality lives up to expectations is another matter.
    My son is in first year but he’s absolutely loving it. I am not sure he’s ever going to want to leave academia after this. He’s working very hard but being rigorously challenged every day. For people like him I am not sure it gets better than that.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,051
    Reflecting, albeit only briefly on 'highlights of my life' after quite a long one, the early years of retirement were pretty good.
    My wife and I could travel, had enough money, neither of us had work demands.
    That was before bits of my bodily systems started malfunctioning!
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 8,380

    Reflecting, albeit only briefly on 'highlights of my life' after quite a long one, the early years of retirement were pretty good.
    My wife and I could travel, had enough money, neither of us had work demands.
    That was before bits of my bodily systems started malfunctioning!

    Much the same for my in-laws. Both teachers, retired a bit early (about 60 for him, late fifties for her). Good pension, lots of travel, kids grown up and at uni or in first jobs, pre-grandchildren. Pretty carefree few years by all accounts.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,350

    The weather forecasters have definitely got the timing wrong, its supposed to be 85 mph winds in Southampton now and its only a bit blustery.

    Storm is running late, it’s still in Cornwall, so an hour or two away.

    Southampton airport 22 gusting 34 knots at the moment https://www.flightradar24.com/airport/sou
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,051
    DavidL said:

    HYUFD said:

    Jonathan said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Note too we had a non Oxford graduate as PM just 12 years ago, Gordon Brown and just 13 years before that too, John Major.

    Starmer might have an Oxford postgraduate degree but he did his undergraduate degree at Leeds

    Brown never won an election and Major did not go to university
    So what, they were still both PMs who did not go to Oxford University
    No grauduate if a University other than Oxfords has led his party to a General Election victory since 1935
    Though Brown, a graduate of Edinburgh, was not outright defeated by Oxford educated Cameron in 2010 and Oxford educated May failed to outright defeat non Oxford educated Corbyn in 2017. Note too non Oxford educated Churchill beat Oxford graduate Attlee in 1951.

    However a lot of general elections have been Oxford graduate v Oxford graduate eg 1955, 1959, 1964, 1966, 1970, 1974, 1983, 2001 and 2015 or Oxford v Cambridge ie 2005, so Oxford or at least Oxbridge, could not lose those general elections anyway.
    Oxford does seem to let people down. It’s graduates to tend to go on about it a tad. Life somehow seems to stop there.
    Unless you also become a self made multi-millionaire or a billionaire (or indeed PM) going to Oxford is probably the highlight of your life if you get in
    Unless Oxford is radically different to and better than Cambridge I find that hard to believe. I think the people who enjoyed undergraduate life the most were people whose parents could subsidise their lifestyle and who could effortlessly become a member of one of the cliques (journalism, drama, politics) where they could pretend they were already powerful and influential people. For the rest of us it was mostly just hard work, a rather inadequate social life and counting the pennies. I'm glad I went there and I met my wife and other good friends there but it really wasn't the highlight of my life.
    I think that our friend believes, possibly rightly, that getting accepted at Oxford, or indeed, Oxbridge, is the highlight of your life, at least to date.
    Whether the reality lives up to expectations is another matter.
    My son is in first year but he’s absolutely loving it. I am not sure he’s ever going to want to leave academia after this. He’s working very hard but being rigorously challenged every day. For people like him I am not sure it gets better than that.
    Very glad to read that, Mr L. And I agree about academic challenge being stimulating.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 8,380
    edited February 2022

    Very still here on Tyneside

    No wind on the Tyne
    It's all fine, all fine
    No wind on the Tyne
    It's all fine

    All together now...
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 17,455
    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    O/T

    Would anyone like to defend the New York Times' banning of the word "slave" from Wordle?

    They've bought a word game which they now intend to destroy because of their Wokeness. It is sublime
    The article says they've removed a perfectly good word like agora too. Obscure words were part of the fun. If the words in the dictionary it should be in the game.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,350
    Selebian said:

    Very still here on Tyneside

    No wind on the Tyne
    It's all fine, all fine
    No wind on the Tyne
    It's all fine

    Alltogether now...
    If there’s no wind, is it foggy?
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 8,380
    kjh said:

    HYUFD said:

    Jonathan said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Note too we had a non Oxford graduate as PM just 12 years ago, Gordon Brown and just 13 years before that too, John Major.

    Starmer might have an Oxford postgraduate degree but he did his undergraduate degree at Leeds

    Brown never won an election and Major did not go to university
    So what, they were still both PMs who did not go to Oxford University
    No grauduate if a University other than Oxfords has led his party to a General Election victory since 1935
    Though Brown, a graduate of Edinburgh, was not outright defeated by Oxford educated Cameron in 2010 and Oxford educated May failed to outright defeat non Oxford educated Corbyn in 2017. Note too non Oxford educated Churchill beat Oxford graduate Attlee in 1951.

    However a lot of general elections have been Oxford graduate v Oxford graduate eg 1955, 1959, 1964, 1966, 1970, 1974, 1983, 2001 and 2015 or Oxford v Cambridge ie 2005, so Oxford or at least Oxbridge, could not lose those general elections anyway.
    Oxford does seem to let people down. It’s graduates to tend to go on about it a tad. Life somehow seems to stop there.
    Unless you also become a self made multi-millionaire or a billionaire (or indeed PM) going to Oxford is probably the highlight of your life if you get in
    Unless Oxford is radically different to and better than Cambridge I find that hard to believe. I think the people who enjoyed undergraduate life the most were people whose parents could subsidise their lifestyle and who could effortlessly become a member of one of the cliques (journalism, drama, politics) where they could pretend they were already powerful and influential people. For the rest of us it was mostly just hard work, a rather inadequate social life and counting the pennies. I'm glad I went there and I met my wife and other good friends there but it really wasn't the highlight of my life.
    Although I didn't go to either, so not really qualified to say, university wasn't the highlight of my life. I worked hard and hadn't achieved maturity. My 30s was easily the best time of my life. Matured, had money, single. Out every night and weekend. Sailing, skiing, flying, squash, parties, girlfriends, etc.
    Yep, I had fun at uni and made some good - lifelong, I expect - friends. But I wasn't yet comfortable in my own skin. Highlights for me were late 20s/early 30s after meeting my wife (lots of travel, no commitments) or now with the children. Very different experiences those too, of course, and I'm glad we had a good 6-7 years just the two of us doing what we wanted. But my life now is fuller (in good and bad ways) than it has ever been.
  • Sandpit said:

    The weather forecasters have definitely got the timing wrong, its supposed to be 85 mph winds in Southampton now and its only a bit blustery.

    Storm is running late, it’s still in Cornwall, so an hour or two away.

    Southampton airport 22 gusting 34 knots at the moment https://www.flightradar24.com/airport/sou
    The wind and rain is lashing in East Anglia. I'm not competent enough to judge whether it matches up to the storm predictions but it feels really bad.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,003
    Eabhal said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    now to the rest of us who'd rather they weren't self-deceiving cretinous pals of paedos..

    Sturgeon's office 'tried to stop publication of Mackay schoolboy story'

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/07/derek-mackay-scottish-government-challenge-nicola-sturgeon-messages-the-sun
    Your first whataboutery of the morning, not your last I daresay.
    An absurd story. Where on earth would Nicola get the idea of using a super injunction to stop the media from reporting a story about someone's sexual orientation and inclination on the basis of their right to privacy?
    I see you're gone full YOONon.

    Was it you who put the FOI on Sturgeon's movements because you were obsessed with idea that she'd had gone on holiday to Faro to some kind of sapphic love nest?
    Sorry to disappoint. I have never put in a FOI request for myself in my entire life.
    For yourself?
    That looks like a lawyer's answer
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,003
    Sandpit said:

    The weather forecasters have definitely got the timing wrong, its supposed to be 85 mph winds in Southampton now and its only a bit blustery.

    Storm is running late, it’s still in Cornwall, so an hour or two away.

    Southampton airport 22 gusting 34 knots at the moment https://www.flightradar24.com/airport/sou
    not even a breeze, what a bunch of wimps. We had 70 MPH last week and they were reporting that it was breezy in Scotland. A draught down south and it is Armageddon.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,551
    .

    'Is it ok to touch the joystick?'


    Kindergarten. What kindergarten?
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