Meanwhile in France, also in an election year, Macron says he will 'piss off' the unvaccinated and prevent them going to a restaurant, having a coffee or going to the theatre or cinema https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59873833
God I wish I was French, I would love to be in a country run by somebody committed to pissing of the unvaccinated.
The French are also cracking down on mopeds/motorbikes with altered exhausts designed to make them louder. This may ruin @Dura_Ace’s next trip to his holiday home, but then he’s unvaxxed so he’s not going anyway
Why can’t we do this in the UK? These bikes are a fucking menace to human sanity
Best news I've heard today. The difference between here and France is that the noisiest ones there are the small ones. Here they're the fast ones so at least it's over quickly.
"Every woman adores a Fascist, The boot in the face, the brute Brute heart of a brute like you."
Allegedly speaking of her German father, but almost certainly addressed - as well - to her then-estranged husband Ted Hughes, who was really quite right wing (like many poets), and with whom she had a bit of a BDSM thing going on
Interesting few posts. As far as I'm concerned the three main meals of the day are breakfast, dinner and tea. Supper is a light snack you might have not too long before bed. Anyone who has differing nomenclature to that outlined above is a barbarian.
And 'scone' rhymes with 'moan'.
So there.
Yep, I'm from up there and it was that. 'Lunch' had meaning only if attached to 'picnic'. I used to 'go home for dinner' rather than have it at school and when I got home at the end of the day I'd be asking "what's for tea?" (to which the answer was usually crispy pancakes and chips). Supper would then be, eg, cornflakes just before bed. Breakfast would also likely have been cornflakes. Cornflakes thus bookending the day.
I've lost all of that now though. Now it's breakfast, lunch, dinner, with supper just not a word.
Enjoyed this discussion! With my odd background (English southern upper-class dad, Russian-born mum), we had variations - the third course of a meal was always the "sweet" (never pudding), and the evening meal was supper if it was just us but the more formal-sounding dinner if we were having people round (as in "Guess who's coming to dinner", the Poitier film that now seems weirdly quaint for other reasons). Grandparents had pet names like everyone in the family - Zebra, Lion, etc. - as part of the general lack of ranking/authority in the family: the underlying philosophy was that we were all in it together (e.g. I was a co-signatory with equal rights on the joint family bank account as soon as it was legal, at 18).
As others have said, the thing that jumps out is how people tribalise words - it obviously doesn't matter if one calls a meal supper, tea, or dinner, but it was a signal of class and region. As people move around and absorb usage on TV, the differences have mostly melted to some extent, but it's surprising how much they're still around.
My parents are pretty posh so it was always "supper" at home. My wife's family are immigrants and she grew up mostly in the East Midlands and called it "tea". Now we both call it "dinner". My wife still takes the piss out of me for calling my parents "mummy" and "daddy".
I grew up in an "aspirant" WWC family in SW London / NE Surrey, (Kingston, so red London buses, Met Police and 01 phone number, but Surrey postal address and postcode) and for us it was breakfast then dinner then tea (no supper). But then at some point, maybe around 1980, I don't really recall, we switched to breakfast then lunch then dinner (still no supper). I blame Thatcher, probably.
Too busy to watch but have had a scan read of the web. Have I got it right that Peppa's response to the growing energy bills crisis is to call it "balls" because there actually isn't a crisis actually?
If I've followed that correctly I can't see how that strategy will last very long.
I thought that Boris v Rayner had energy, if you excuse the pun, and really showed just how boring and grey Starmer is
His 'balls' reference was to Ed Davey and was amusing
Interesting few posts. As far as I'm concerned the three main meals of the day are breakfast, dinner and tea. Supper is a light snack you might have not too long before bed. Anyone who has differing nomenclature to that outlined above is a barbarian.
And 'scone' rhymes with 'moan'.
So there.
Yep, I'm from up there and it was that. 'Lunch' had meaning only if attached to 'picnic'. I used to 'go home for dinner' rather than have it at school and when I got home at the end of the day I'd be asking "what's for tea?" (to which the answer was usually crispy pancakes and chips). Supper would then be, eg, cornflakes just before bed. Breakfast would also likely have been cornflakes. Cornflakes thus bookending the day.
I've lost all of that now though. Now it's breakfast, lunch, dinner, with supper just not a word.
Enjoyed this discussion! With my odd background (English southern upper-class dad, Russian-born mum), we had variations - the third course of a meal was always the "sweet" (never pudding), and the evening meal was supper if it was just us but the more formal-sounding dinner if we were having people round (as in "Guess who's coming to dinner", the Poitier film that now seems weirdly quaint for other reasons). Grandparents had pet names like everyone in the family - Zebra, Lion, etc. - as part of the general lack of ranking/authority in the family: the underlying philosophy was that we were all in it together (e.g. I was a co-signatory with equal rights on the joint family bank account as soon as it was legal, at 18).
As others have said, the thing that jumps out is how people tribalise words - it obviously doesn't matter if one calls a meal supper, tea, or dinner, but it was a signal of class and region. As people move around and absorb usage on TV, the differences have mostly melted to some extent, but it's surprising how much they're still around.
My parents are pretty posh so it was always "supper" at home. My wife's family are immigrants and she grew up mostly in the East Midlands and called it "tea". Now we both call it "dinner". My wife still takes the piss out of me for calling my parents "mummy" and "daddy".
I grew up in an "aspirant" WWC family in SW London / NE Surrey, (Kingston, so red London buses, Met Police and 01 phone number, but Surrey postal address and postcode) and for us it was breakfast then dinner then tea (no supper). But then at some point, maybe around 1980, I don't really recall, we switched to breakfast then lunch then dinner (still no supper). I blame Thatcher, probably.
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 years later, and married!
That's nothing, I married a plastic Scouser, cannot get more leftie than that.
Yes, my ex-gf was a northern working class radical lefty feminist, she's a HR director at a giant tech company these days from what I've heard and married to a zillionaire hedgie.
Interesting few posts. As far as I'm concerned the three main meals of the day are breakfast, dinner and tea. Supper is a light snack you might have not too long before bed. Anyone who has differing nomenclature to that outlined above is a barbarian.
And 'scone' rhymes with 'moan'.
So there.
Yep, I'm from up there and it was that. 'Lunch' had meaning only if attached to 'picnic'. I used to 'go home for dinner' rather than have it at school and when I got home at the end of the day I'd be asking "what's for tea?" (to which the answer was usually crispy pancakes and chips). Supper would then be, eg, cornflakes just before bed. Breakfast would also likely have been cornflakes. Cornflakes thus bookending the day.
I've lost all of that now though. Now it's breakfast, lunch, dinner, with supper just not a word.
Enjoyed this discussion! With my odd background (English southern upper-class dad, Russian-born mum), we had variations - the third course of a meal was always the "sweet" (never pudding), and the evening meal was supper if it was just us but the more formal-sounding dinner if we were having people round (as in "Guess who's coming to dinner", the Poitier film that now seems weirdly quaint for other reasons). Grandparents had pet names like everyone in the family - Zebra, Lion, etc. - as part of the general lack of ranking/authority in the family: the underlying philosophy was that we were all in it together (e.g. I was a co-signatory with equal rights on the joint family bank account as soon as it was legal, at 18).
As others have said, the thing that jumps out is how people tribalise words - it obviously doesn't matter if one calls a meal supper, tea, or dinner, but it was a signal of class and region. As people move around and absorb usage on TV, the differences have mostly melted to some extent, but it's surprising how much they're still around.
My parents are pretty posh so it was always "supper" at home. My wife's family are immigrants and she grew up mostly in the East Midlands and called it "tea". Now we both call it "dinner". My wife still takes the piss out of me for calling my parents "mummy" and "daddy".
I grew up in an "aspirant" WWC family in SW London / NE Surrey, (Kingston, so red London buses, Met Police and 01 phone number, but Surrey postal address and postcode) and for us it was breakfast then dinner then tea (no supper). But then at some point, maybe around 1980, I don't really recall, we switched to breakfast then lunch then dinner (still no supper). I blame Thatcher, probably.
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
I noticed/benefited for that a few times in my younger days, strange phenomenon. sadly however, after converting to libertarianism I didn't find it has the same appeal.
Meanwhile in France, also in an election year, Macron says he will 'piss off' the unvaccinated and prevent them going to a restaurant, having a coffee or going to the theatre or cinema https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59873833
God I wish I was French, I would love to be in a country run by somebody committed to pissing of the unvaccinated.
The French are also cracking down on mopeds/motorbikes with altered exhausts designed to make them louder. This may ruin @Dura_Ace’s next trip to his holiday home, but then he’s unvaxxed so he’s not going anyway
Why can’t we do this in the UK? These bikes are a fucking menace to human sanity
Not just humans, I'll add. They scare pets and livestock, too.
They’re hideous. They make me murderously angry. Lots in north London
But also lots in the countryside and lots across mainland Europe. Ban them
Agreed. It's not a big problem where I currently live -- rural -- but I know that other rural areas do have the problem. I also lived in a city for a while where it was a major issue. I have a theory that the noise triggers something primal; a loud animal roar nearby ought to make you produce a shot of adrenaline so you're ready to outrun your fellow tribesfolk and not be eaten by the nearby predator. That's going to cause stress. I'll bet it tips some people into strokes and heart attacks. If it were me in charge, I'd crush such vehicles into a small shiny cube. possibly with the drivers still on board.
Yes, it definitely triggers fight/flight. I get the literal urge to stab the drivers when they race down my road, especially at 3am. And it’s not particularly common here, whereas it is elsewhere
I read a news report a few weeks back where a guy was so outraged by his neighbour’s bikes - which had these exhausts - he went round and stabbed the bloke to death
My reaction to the story was ambivalent
Car and burglar alarms that go off for no reason and trucks bleeping when they reverse are also infuriating.
The trucks beeping in reverse, is a regulation written in blood.
Car alarms I agree though, so many false negatives that a thief probably has the neighbours telling him to go away in the car.
I tell you what does need more beeping.
Electric vehicles, in the last few years I've been run over by them several times because the buggers are so quiet.
Which is why I constantly play loud music in my EVs, to warn people that I'm about.
Odd, I can hear EVs from a long way away but perhaps it's a question of pitch. They either emit a high pitched "eeee" (Teslas, Priuses, Leafs (leaves?)) or a ghostly moan (Zoes). So if your hearing is more attuned to lower notes perhaps they are less noticeable.
Meanwhile in France, also in an election year, Macron says he will 'piss off' the unvaccinated and prevent them going to a restaurant, having a coffee or going to the theatre or cinema https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59873833
God I wish I was French, I would love to be in a country run by somebody committed to pissing of the unvaccinated.
The French are also cracking down on mopeds/motorbikes with altered exhausts designed to make them louder. This may ruin @Dura_Ace’s next trip to his holiday home, but then he’s unvaxxed so he’s not going anyway
Why can’t we do this in the UK? These bikes are a fucking menace to human sanity
Not just humans, I'll add. They scare pets and livestock, too.
They’re hideous. They make me murderously angry. Lots in north London
But also lots in the countryside and lots across mainland Europe. Ban them
Agreed. It's not a big problem where I currently live -- rural -- but I know that other rural areas do have the problem. I also lived in a city for a while where it was a major issue. I have a theory that the noise triggers something primal; a loud animal roar nearby ought to make you produce a shot of adrenaline so you're ready to outrun your fellow tribesfolk and not be eaten by the nearby predator. That's going to cause stress. I'll bet it tips some people into strokes and heart attacks. If it were me in charge, I'd crush such vehicles into a small shiny cube. possibly with the drivers still on board.
Yes, it definitely triggers fight/flight. I get the literal urge to stab the drivers when they race down my road, especially at 3am. And it’s not particularly common here, whereas it is elsewhere
I read a news report a few weeks back where a guy was so outraged by his neighbour’s bikes - which had these exhausts - he went round and stabbed the bloke to death
My reaction to the story was ambivalent
Car and burglar alarms that go off for no reason and trucks bleeping when they reverse are also infuriating.
The trucks beeping in reverse, is a regulation written in blood.
Car alarms I agree though, so many false negatives that a thief probably has the neighbours telling him to go away in the car.
I tell you what does need more beeping.
Electric vehicles, in the last few years I've been run over by them several times because the buggers are so quiet.
Which is why I constantly play loud music in my EVs, to warn people that I'm about.
Actually run over? Several times? Are you a Crossy Road avatar?
Meanwhile in France, also in an election year, Macron says he will 'piss off' the unvaccinated and prevent them going to a restaurant, having a coffee or going to the theatre or cinema https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59873833
God I wish I was French, I would love to be in a country run by somebody committed to pissing of the unvaccinated.
The French are also cracking down on mopeds/motorbikes with altered exhausts designed to make them louder. This may ruin @Dura_Ace’s next trip to his holiday home, but then he’s unvaxxed so he’s not going anyway
Why can’t we do this in the UK? These bikes are a fucking menace to human sanity
Not just humans, I'll add. They scare pets and livestock, too.
They’re hideous. They make me murderously angry. Lots in north London
But also lots in the countryside and lots across mainland Europe. Ban them
Agreed. It's not a big problem where I currently live -- rural -- but I know that other rural areas do have the problem. I also lived in a city for a while where it was a major issue. I have a theory that the noise triggers something primal; a loud animal roar nearby ought to make you produce a shot of adrenaline so you're ready to outrun your fellow tribesfolk and not be eaten by the nearby predator. That's going to cause stress. I'll bet it tips some people into strokes and heart attacks. If it were me in charge, I'd crush such vehicles into a small shiny cube. possibly with the drivers still on board.
Yes, it definitely triggers fight/flight. I get the literal urge to stab the drivers when they race down my road, especially at 3am. And it’s not particularly common here, whereas it is elsewhere
I read a news report a few weeks back where a guy was so outraged by his neighbour’s bikes - which had these exhausts - he went round and stabbed the bloke to death
My reaction to the story was ambivalent
Car and burglar alarms that go off for no reason and trucks bleeping when they reverse are also infuriating.
The trucks beeping in reverse, is a regulation written in blood.
Car alarms I agree though, so many false negatives that a thief probably has the neighbours telling him to go away in the car.
I tell you what does need more beeping.
Electric vehicles, in the last few years I've been run over by them several times because the buggers are so quiet.
Which is why I constantly play loud music in my EVs, to warn people that I'm about.
Odd, I can hear EVs from a long way away but perhaps it's a question of pitch. They either emit a high pitched "eeee" (Teslas, Priuses, Leafs (leaves?)) or a ghostly moan (Zoes). So if your hearing is more attuned to lower notes perhaps they are less noticeable.
Interesting. I wonder if the young designers have even thought about the deaf. Fully won't make a difference, but the partly and incipiently deaf with hearing loss in part of the spectrum would be a real issue. And that could cover a lot of us esp the older ones.
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 years later, and married!
That's nothing, I married a plastic Scouser, cannot get more leftie than that.
Yes, my ex-gf was a northern working class radical lefty feminist, she's a HR director at a giant tech company these days from what I've heard and married to a zillionaire hedgie.
Starting to sound to me more like right wingers love lefty girls, judging from your experience
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 (almost 9 now!) years later, and married!
Ha ha, good for you. Nothing wrong with cross-partisan relationships – they can keep the spark going at the very least. Quite commonplace in this country, in my experience.
Me and my Leftie friends at Uni used to talk about various posh/Tory women who we would sleep with "for the revolution." But to the best of my knowledge none of these revolutionary acts ever occurred.
The UKHSA has announced that confirmatory PCR tests will no longer be available for those who test positive on an LFT test without symptoms, raising fears of staff shortages being exacerbated by false positives.
Too busy to watch but have had a scan read of the web. Have I got it right that Peppa's response to the growing energy bills crisis is to call it "balls" because there actually isn't a crisis actually?
If I've followed that correctly I can't see how that strategy will last very long.
I thought that Boris v Rayner had energy, if you excuse the pun, and really showed just how boring and grey Starmer is
His 'balls' reference was to Ed Davey and was amusing
At this moment, which of the following individuals do you think would be the better Prime Minister for the United Kingdom? (20 Dec):
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 (almost 9 now!) years later, and married!
Ha ha, good for you. Nothing wrong with cross-partisan relationships – they can keep the spark going at the very least. Quite commonplace in this country, in my experience.
My other half - abolition of the monarchy (Though she has time for the current queen) ; maximum wage...
Too busy to watch but have had a scan read of the web. Have I got it right that Peppa's response to the growing energy bills crisis is to call it "balls" because there actually isn't a crisis actually?
If I've followed that correctly I can't see how that strategy will last very long.
I wonder if Yvette could convince Ed to do a quick explainer video for someone like Martin Lewis or the One Show...
The UKHSA has announced that confirmatory PCR tests will no longer be available for those who test positive on an LFT test without symptoms, raising fears of staff shortages being exacerbated by false positives.
Meanwhile in France, also in an election year, Macron says he will 'piss off' the unvaccinated and prevent them going to a restaurant, having a coffee or going to the theatre or cinema https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59873833
God I wish I was French, I would love to be in a country run by somebody committed to pissing of the unvaccinated.
The French are also cracking down on mopeds/motorbikes with altered exhausts designed to make them louder. This may ruin @Dura_Ace’s next trip to his holiday home, but then he’s unvaxxed so he’s not going anyway
Why can’t we do this in the UK? These bikes are a fucking menace to human sanity
Not just humans, I'll add. They scare pets and livestock, too.
They’re hideous. They make me murderously angry. Lots in north London
But also lots in the countryside and lots across mainland Europe. Ban them
Agreed. It's not a big problem where I currently live -- rural -- but I know that other rural areas do have the problem. I also lived in a city for a while where it was a major issue. I have a theory that the noise triggers something primal; a loud animal roar nearby ought to make you produce a shot of adrenaline so you're ready to outrun your fellow tribesfolk and not be eaten by the nearby predator. That's going to cause stress. I'll bet it tips some people into strokes and heart attacks. If it were me in charge, I'd crush such vehicles into a small shiny cube. possibly with the drivers still on board.
Yes, it definitely triggers fight/flight. I get the literal urge to stab the drivers when they race down my road, especially at 3am. And it’s not particularly common here, whereas it is elsewhere
I read a news report a few weeks back where a guy was so outraged by his neighbour’s bikes - which had these exhausts - he went round and stabbed the bloke to death
My reaction to the story was ambivalent
Car and burglar alarms that go off for no reason and trucks bleeping when they reverse are also infuriating.
The trucks beeping in reverse, is a regulation written in blood.
Car alarms I agree though, so many false negatives that a thief probably has the neighbours telling him to go away in the car.
I tell you what does need more beeping.
Electric vehicles, in the last few years I've been run over by them several times because the buggers are so quiet.
Which is why I constantly play loud music in my EVs, to warn people that I'm about.
Actually run over? Several times? Are you a Crossy Road avatar?
The UKHSA has announced that confirmatory PCR tests will no longer be available for those who test positive on an LFT test without symptoms, raising fears of staff shortages being exacerbated by false positives.
The UKHSA has announced that confirmatory PCR tests will no longer be available for those who test positive on an LFT test without symptoms, raising fears of staff shortages being exacerbated by false positives.
No peeking..
Sounds like Oxford University's finest, Toby Young?
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 years later, and married!
That's nothing, I married a plastic Scouser, cannot get more leftie than that.
Yes, my ex-gf was a northern working class radical lefty feminist, she's a HR director at a giant tech company these days from what I've heard and married to a zillionaire hedgie.
Starting to sound to me more like right wingers love lefty girls, judging from your experience
No doubt! Possibly something to do with enjoying the being challenged. Why marry someone who only every agrees with you about everything? Seems boring to me.
Meanwhile in France, also in an election year, Macron says he will 'piss off' the unvaccinated and prevent them going to a restaurant, having a coffee or going to the theatre or cinema https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59873833
God I wish I was French, I would love to be in a country run by somebody committed to pissing of the unvaccinated.
The French are also cracking down on mopeds/motorbikes with altered exhausts designed to make them louder. This may ruin @Dura_Ace’s next trip to his holiday home, but then he’s unvaxxed so he’s not going anyway
Why can’t we do this in the UK? These bikes are a fucking menace to human sanity
Best news I've heard today. The difference between here and France is that the noisiest ones there are the small ones. Here they're the fast ones so at least it's over quickly.
They're a real problem here in the NYC tri-state area, along with unlicenced dirt bikes and quad bikes that assholes ride in convoy ignoring red lights and other traffic laws (we once got bracketed by a bunch of them on I-95, which was pretty scary). Both the unlicenced (obvs) bikes and the exhaust mods to make them louder are illegal, but apart from the occasional one-off "crackdown" ordered from above when the public is getting especially pissed off with them, the NYPD does bugger-all. Possibly that's because some of the offenders are NYPDofficers themselves.
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 (almost 9 now!) years later, and married!
Ha ha, good for you. Nothing wrong with cross-partisan relationships – they can keep the spark going at the very least. Quite commonplace in this country, in my experience.
My other half - abolition of the monarchy (Though she has time for the current queen) ; maximum wage...
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 years later, and married!
That's nothing, I married a plastic Scouser, cannot get more leftie than that.
Yes, my ex-gf was a northern working class radical lefty feminist, she's a HR director at a giant tech company these days from what I've heard and married to a zillionaire hedgie.
Starting to sound to me more like right wingers love lefty girls, judging from your experience
No doubt! Possibly something to do with enjoying the being challenged. Why marry someone who only every agrees with you about everything? Seems boring to me.
I think most people aren't on the political extremes and disagreeing on some issues makes for conversation. Also, its shown in the data, women in general look to date "across and up" the socio-economic scale. As women are increasingly better educated than men and with that much more success, swampy fighting the man isn't exactly top of their desirable list.
Talking of High Priestess Pagel, I made the mistake of looking at her Twitter feed yesterday.
The absolute state of the replies to her tweets. She is like a cult leader seemingly, I could barely believe that some of her devotees were real. Maybe they aren't.
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 years later, and married!
That's nothing, I married a plastic Scouser, cannot get more leftie than that.
Yes, my ex-gf was a northern working class radical lefty feminist, she's a HR director at a giant tech company these days from what I've heard and married to a zillionaire hedgie.
Starting to sound to me more like right wingers love lefty girls, judging from your experience
No doubt! Possibly something to do with enjoying the being challenged. Why marry someone who only every agrees with you about everything? Seems boring to me.
One thing that I don't get is the seeming recent trend to date solely with people that share your political views. I'd place it about 200th in terms of stuff I look for in a potential partner - but for a subset (Mainly on the hard left I think) it is near the top !
Meanwhile in France, also in an election year, Macron says he will 'piss off' the unvaccinated and prevent them going to a restaurant, having a coffee or going to the theatre or cinema https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59873833
God I wish I was French, I would love to be in a country run by somebody committed to pissing of the unvaccinated.
The French are also cracking down on mopeds/motorbikes with altered exhausts designed to make them louder. This may ruin @Dura_Ace’s next trip to his holiday home, but then he’s unvaxxed so he’s not going anyway
Why can’t we do this in the UK? These bikes are a fucking menace to human sanity
Not just humans, I'll add. They scare pets and livestock, too.
They’re hideous. They make me murderously angry. Lots in north London
But also lots in the countryside and lots across mainland Europe. Ban them
Agreed. It's not a big problem where I currently live -- rural -- but I know that other rural areas do have the problem. I also lived in a city for a while where it was a major issue. I have a theory that the noise triggers something primal; a loud animal roar nearby ought to make you produce a shot of adrenaline so you're ready to outrun your fellow tribesfolk and not be eaten by the nearby predator. That's going to cause stress. I'll bet it tips some people into strokes and heart attacks. If it were me in charge, I'd crush such vehicles into a small shiny cube. possibly with the drivers still on board.
Yes, it definitely triggers fight/flight. I get the literal urge to stab the drivers when they race down my road, especially at 3am. And it’s not particularly common here, whereas it is elsewhere
I read a news report a few weeks back where a guy was so outraged by his neighbour’s bikes - which had these exhausts - he went round and stabbed the bloke to death
My reaction to the story was ambivalent
Car and burglar alarms that go off for no reason and trucks bleeping when they reverse are also infuriating.
The trucks beeping in reverse, is a regulation written in blood.
Car alarms I agree though, so many false negatives that a thief probably has the neighbours telling him to go away in the car.
I tell you what does need more beeping.
Electric vehicles, in the last few years I've been run over by them several times because the buggers are so quiet.
Which is why I constantly play loud music in my EVs, to warn people that I'm about.
Odd, I can hear EVs from a long way away but perhaps it's a question of pitch. They either emit a high pitched "eeee" (Teslas, Priuses, Leafs (leaves?)) or a ghostly moan (Zoes). So if your hearing is more attuned to lower notes perhaps they are less noticeable.
Interesting. I wonder if the young designers have even thought about the deaf. Fully won't make a difference, but the partly and incipiently deaf with hearing loss in part of the spectrum would be a real issue. And that could cover a lot of us esp the older ones.
Meanwhile in France, also in an election year, Macron says he will 'piss off' the unvaccinated and prevent them going to a restaurant, having a coffee or going to the theatre or cinema https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59873833
God I wish I was French, I would love to be in a country run by somebody committed to pissing of the unvaccinated.
The French are also cracking down on mopeds/motorbikes with altered exhausts designed to make them louder. This may ruin @Dura_Ace’s next trip to his holiday home, but then he’s unvaxxed so he’s not going anyway
Why can’t we do this in the UK? These bikes are a fucking menace to human sanity
Not just humans, I'll add. They scare pets and livestock, too.
They’re hideous. They make me murderously angry. Lots in north London
But also lots in the countryside and lots across mainland Europe. Ban them
Agreed. It's not a big problem where I currently live -- rural -- but I know that other rural areas do have the problem. I also lived in a city for a while where it was a major issue. I have a theory that the noise triggers something primal; a loud animal roar nearby ought to make you produce a shot of adrenaline so you're ready to outrun your fellow tribesfolk and not be eaten by the nearby predator. That's going to cause stress. I'll bet it tips some people into strokes and heart attacks. If it were me in charge, I'd crush such vehicles into a small shiny cube. possibly with the drivers still on board.
Yes, it definitely triggers fight/flight. I get the literal urge to stab the drivers when they race down my road, especially at 3am. And it’s not particularly common here, whereas it is elsewhere
I read a news report a few weeks back where a guy was so outraged by his neighbour’s bikes - which had these exhausts - he went round and stabbed the bloke to death
My reaction to the story was ambivalent
Car and burglar alarms that go off for no reason and trucks bleeping when they reverse are also infuriating.
The trucks beeping in reverse, is a regulation written in blood.
Car alarms I agree though, so many false negatives that a thief probably has the neighbours telling him to go away in the car.
I tell you what does need more beeping.
Electric vehicles, in the last few years I've been run over by them several times because the buggers are so quiet.
Which is why I constantly play loud music in my EVs, to warn people that I'm about.
Odd, I can hear EVs from a long way away but perhaps it's a question of pitch. They either emit a high pitched "eeee" (Teslas, Priuses, Leafs (leaves?)) or a ghostly moan (Zoes). So if your hearing is more attuned to lower notes perhaps they are less noticeable.
Interesting. I wonder if the young designers have even thought about the deaf. Fully won't make a difference, but the partly and incipiently deaf with hearing loss in part of the spectrum would be a real issue. And that could cover a lot of us esp the older ones.
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 years later, and married!
That's nothing, I married a plastic Scouser, cannot get more leftie than that.
Yes, my ex-gf was a northern working class radical lefty feminist, she's a HR director at a giant tech company these days from what I've heard and married to a zillionaire hedgie.
Starting to sound to me more like right wingers love lefty girls, judging from your experience
No doubt! Possibly something to do with enjoying the being challenged. Why marry someone who only every agrees with you about everything? Seems boring to me.
One thing that I don't get is the seeming recent trend to date solely with people that share your political views. I'd place it about 200th in terms of stuff I look for in a potential partner - but for a subset (Mainly on the hard left I think) it is near the top !
Or is it just a noisy minority on the social media machine, who proclaim people who don't share their exact ideology are nazis or commies?
Talking of High Priestess Pagel, I made the mistake of looking at her Twitter feed yesterday.
The absolute state of the replies to her tweets. She is like a cult leader seemingly, I could barely believe that some of her devotees were real. Maybe they aren't.
Talking of High Priestess Pagel, I made the mistake of looking at her Twitter feed yesterday.
The absolute state of the replies to her tweets. She is like a cult leader seemingly, I could barely believe that some of her devotees were real. Maybe they aren't.
Wowsa. If you're getting those kind of replies, no wonder you completely lose perspective on the real world.
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 years later, and married!
That's nothing, I married a plastic Scouser, cannot get more leftie than that.
Yes, my ex-gf was a northern working class radical lefty feminist, she's a HR director at a giant tech company these days from what I've heard and married to a zillionaire hedgie.
Starting to sound to me more like right wingers love lefty girls, judging from your experience
No doubt! Possibly something to do with enjoying the being challenged. Why marry someone who only every agrees with you about everything? Seems boring to me.
One thing that I don't get is the seeming recent trend to date solely with people that share your political views. I'd place it about 200th in terms of stuff I look for in a potential partner - but for a subset (Mainly on the hard left I think) it is near the top !
Yep. I don't think I've dated anyone particularly right wing (many people I dated were to the left of me) but that was mainly because I met my wife while in my 20s and you don't tend to meet a whole lot of right-wing people in their 20s, particularly women and particularly if you've gone the university route, perhaps. Although there were people I dated with whom I never discussed politics, so who knows?
My wife is a little to the right of me, I'd say, but probably not by much. Basing that mainly on her voting for Cameron, I think, in 2015.
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 years later, and married!
That's nothing, I married a plastic Scouser, cannot get more leftie than that.
Yes, my ex-gf was a northern working class radical lefty feminist, she's a HR director at a giant tech company these days from what I've heard and married to a zillionaire hedgie.
Starting to sound to me more like right wingers love lefty girls, judging from your experience
No doubt! Possibly something to do with enjoying the being challenged. Why marry someone who only every agrees with you about everything? Seems boring to me.
One thing that I don't get is the seeming recent trend to date solely with people that share your political views. I'd place it about 200th in terms of stuff I look for in a potential partner - but for a subset (Mainly on the hard left I think) it is near the top !
It is a major issue, especially in America. Surveys show many many Dems would simply not consider a Republican partner. The Republicans are more tolerant, but also becoming more polarised
Yet another warning signal for the USA
Coincidentally last night I read a brilliant short book about Why Civilisations Collapse. Immoderate Greatness. I recommend it to all interested PBers
The auguries for America and the wider West are really not good. We are exhibiting all the major signs of terminal decline; America is just ahead of the western pack
8% of 2020 Biden voters would now vote for Trump in 2024
But neither will be on the ballot so this is the ultimate hypothetical.
Mind you Harris has an even lower approval rating on this poll than Biden, so the Democrats likely need a younger, centrist candidate like Buttigieg to have a chance to keep Trump from returning to the Oval Office in 3 years time
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 years later, and married!
That's nothing, I married a plastic Scouser, cannot get more leftie than that.
Yes, my ex-gf was a northern working class radical lefty feminist, she's a HR director at a giant tech company these days from what I've heard and married to a zillionaire hedgie.
Starting to sound to me more like right wingers love lefty girls, judging from your experience
No doubt! Possibly something to do with enjoying the being challenged. Why marry someone who only every agrees with you about everything? Seems boring to me.
One thing that I don't get is the seeming recent trend to date solely with people that share your political views. I'd place it about 200th in terms of stuff I look for in a potential partner - but for a subset (Mainly on the hard left I think) it is near the top !
Or is it just a noisy minority on the social media machine, who proclaim people who don't share their exact ideology are nazis or commies?
No. It is 7 in 10 Democrats
"Most Democrats who are looking for a relationship would not consider dating a Trump voter"
Meanwhile in France, also in an election year, Macron says he will 'piss off' the unvaccinated and prevent them going to a restaurant, having a coffee or going to the theatre or cinema https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59873833
God I wish I was French, I would love to be in a country run by somebody committed to pissing of the unvaccinated.
The French are also cracking down on mopeds/motorbikes with altered exhausts designed to make them louder. This may ruin @Dura_Ace’s next trip to his holiday home, but then he’s unvaxxed so he’s not going anyway
Why can’t we do this in the UK? These bikes are a fucking menace to human sanity
Not just humans, I'll add. They scare pets and livestock, too.
They’re hideous. They make me murderously angry. Lots in north London
But also lots in the countryside and lots across mainland Europe. Ban them
Agreed. It's not a big problem where I currently live -- rural -- but I know that other rural areas do have the problem. I also lived in a city for a while where it was a major issue. I have a theory that the noise triggers something primal; a loud animal roar nearby ought to make you produce a shot of adrenaline so you're ready to outrun your fellow tribesfolk and not be eaten by the nearby predator. That's going to cause stress. I'll bet it tips some people into strokes and heart attacks. If it were me in charge, I'd crush such vehicles into a small shiny cube. possibly with the drivers still on board.
Yes, it definitely triggers fight/flight. I get the literal urge to stab the drivers when they race down my road, especially at 3am. And it’s not particularly common here, whereas it is elsewhere
I read a news report a few weeks back where a guy was so outraged by his neighbour’s bikes - which had these exhausts - he went round and stabbed the bloke to death
My reaction to the story was ambivalent
Car and burglar alarms that go off for no reason and trucks bleeping when they reverse are also infuriating.
The trucks beeping in reverse, is a regulation written in blood.
Car alarms I agree though, so many false negatives that a thief probably has the neighbours telling him to go away in the car.
I tell you what does need more beeping.
Electric vehicles, in the last few years I've been run over by them several times because the buggers are so quiet.
Which is why I constantly play loud music in my EVs, to warn people that I'm about.
Odd, I can hear EVs from a long way away but perhaps it's a question of pitch. They either emit a high pitched "eeee" (Teslas, Priuses, Leafs (leaves?)) or a ghostly moan (Zoes). So if your hearing is more attuned to lower notes perhaps they are less noticeable.
Interesting. I wonder if the young designers have even thought about the deaf. Fully won't make a difference, but the partly and incipiently deaf with hearing loss in part of the spectrum would be a real issue. And that could cover a lot of us esp the older ones.
On the plus side, it might make more people actually look before wandering out into the road. I've had a few near misses on my bike from people not bothering to actually look if they can't hear a car approaching.
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 years later, and married!
That's nothing, I married a plastic Scouser, cannot get more leftie than that.
Yes, my ex-gf was a northern working class radical lefty feminist, she's a HR director at a giant tech company these days from what I've heard and married to a zillionaire hedgie.
Starting to sound to me more like right wingers love lefty girls, judging from your experience
No doubt! Possibly something to do with enjoying the being challenged. Why marry someone who only every agrees with you about everything? Seems boring to me.
Even being married to someone with broadly similar political opinions, I'm not sure that running out of things to disagree about is top of my list of concerns...
Meanwhile in France, also in an election year, Macron says he will 'piss off' the unvaccinated and prevent them going to a restaurant, having a coffee or going to the theatre or cinema https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59873833
God I wish I was French, I would love to be in a country run by somebody committed to pissing of the unvaccinated.
The French are also cracking down on mopeds/motorbikes with altered exhausts designed to make them louder. This may ruin @Dura_Ace’s next trip to his holiday home, but then he’s unvaxxed so he’s not going anyway
Why can’t we do this in the UK? These bikes are a fucking menace to human sanity
Not just humans, I'll add. They scare pets and livestock, too.
They’re hideous. They make me murderously angry. Lots in north London
But also lots in the countryside and lots across mainland Europe. Ban them
Agreed. It's not a big problem where I currently live -- rural -- but I know that other rural areas do have the problem. I also lived in a city for a while where it was a major issue. I have a theory that the noise triggers something primal; a loud animal roar nearby ought to make you produce a shot of adrenaline so you're ready to outrun your fellow tribesfolk and not be eaten by the nearby predator. That's going to cause stress. I'll bet it tips some people into strokes and heart attacks. If it were me in charge, I'd crush such vehicles into a small shiny cube. possibly with the drivers still on board.
Yes, it definitely triggers fight/flight. I get the literal urge to stab the drivers when they race down my road, especially at 3am. And it’s not particularly common here, whereas it is elsewhere
I read a news report a few weeks back where a guy was so outraged by his neighbour’s bikes - which had these exhausts - he went round and stabbed the bloke to death
My reaction to the story was ambivalent
Car and burglar alarms that go off for no reason and trucks bleeping when they reverse are also infuriating.
The trucks beeping in reverse, is a regulation written in blood.
Car alarms I agree though, so many false negatives that a thief probably has the neighbours telling him to go away in the car.
I tell you what does need more beeping.
Electric vehicles, in the last few years I've been run over by them several times because the buggers are so quiet.
Which is why I constantly play loud music in my EVs, to warn people that I'm about.
Odd, I can hear EVs from a long way away but perhaps it's a question of pitch. They either emit a high pitched "eeee" (Teslas, Priuses, Leafs (leaves?)) or a ghostly moan (Zoes). So if your hearing is more attuned to lower notes perhaps they are less noticeable.
Interesting. I wonder if the young designers have even thought about the deaf. Fully won't make a difference, but the partly and incipiently deaf with hearing loss in part of the spectrum would be a real issue. And that could cover a lot of us esp the older ones.
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 years later, and married!
That's nothing, I married a plastic Scouser, cannot get more leftie than that.
Yes, my ex-gf was a northern working class radical lefty feminist, she's a HR director at a giant tech company these days from what I've heard and married to a zillionaire hedgie.
Starting to sound to me more like right wingers love lefty girls, judging from your experience
No doubt! Possibly something to do with enjoying the being challenged. Why marry someone who only every agrees with you about everything? Seems boring to me.
One thing that I don't get is the seeming recent trend to date solely with people that share your political views. I'd place it about 200th in terms of stuff I look for in a potential partner - but for a subset (Mainly on the hard left I think) it is near the top !
Or is it just a noisy minority on the social media machine, who proclaim people who don't share their exact ideology are nazis or commies?
No. It is 7 in 10 Democrats
"Most Democrats who are looking for a relationship would not consider dating a Trump voter"
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 years later, and married!
That's nothing, I married a plastic Scouser, cannot get more leftie than that.
Yes, my ex-gf was a northern working class radical lefty feminist, she's a HR director at a giant tech company these days from what I've heard and married to a zillionaire hedgie.
Starting to sound to me more like right wingers love lefty girls, judging from your experience
No doubt! Possibly something to do with enjoying the being challenged. Why marry someone who only every agrees with you about everything? Seems boring to me.
One thing that I don't get is the seeming recent trend to date solely with people that share your political views. I'd place it about 200th in terms of stuff I look for in a potential partner - but for a subset (Mainly on the hard left I think) it is near the top !
Or is it just a noisy minority on the social media machine, who proclaim people who don't share their exact ideology are nazis or commies?
No. It is 7 in 10 Democrats
"Most Democrats who are looking for a relationship would not consider dating a Trump voter"
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 years later, and married!
That's nothing, I married a plastic Scouser, cannot get more leftie than that.
Yes, my ex-gf was a northern working class radical lefty feminist, she's a HR director at a giant tech company these days from what I've heard and married to a zillionaire hedgie.
Starting to sound to me more like right wingers love lefty girls, judging from your experience
No doubt! Possibly something to do with enjoying the being challenged. Why marry someone who only every agrees with you about everything? Seems boring to me.
One thing that I don't get is the seeming recent trend to date solely with people that share your political views. I'd place it about 200th in terms of stuff I look for in a potential partner - but for a subset (Mainly on the hard left I think) it is near the top !
Or is it just a noisy minority on the social media machine, who proclaim people who don't share their exact ideology are nazis or commies?
No. It is 7 in 10 Democrats
"Most Democrats who are looking for a relationship would not consider dating a Trump voter"
8% of 2020 Biden voters would now vote for Trump in 2024
The way the polls are in the US in general doesn't seem to get much mention these days, oddly.
Weirdly, I'm still waiting for a retraction on your much repeated claim that Christmas in Gibraltar was cancelled.
Come on, come on, it's not hard. Something like:
I'm sorry I posted four times about Christmas was "cancelled" in Gibraltar despite vaccinations. I accept that of the three people in hospital with Covid, two were unvaccinated, and that the only legal restrictions in Gibraltar are mask mandates in shops and on public transport.
I don't think that should be too hard for you.
If you don't want to do that, I'll accept your silence as an admission that you weren't ignorant, and were just simply lying.
I've just been quoted £600 + VAT to provide a legal opinion on a two-page Declaration of Trust involving one freehold house. How many hours (minutes more like) are they going to spend on it?
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 years later, and married!
That's nothing, I married a plastic Scouser, cannot get more leftie than that.
Yes, my ex-gf was a northern working class radical lefty feminist, she's a HR director at a giant tech company these days from what I've heard and married to a zillionaire hedgie.
Starting to sound to me more like right wingers love lefty girls, judging from your experience
No doubt! Possibly something to do with enjoying the being challenged. Why marry someone who only every agrees with you about everything? Seems boring to me.
One thing that I don't get is the seeming recent trend to date solely with people that share your political views. I'd place it about 200th in terms of stuff I look for in a potential partner - but for a subset (Mainly on the hard left I think) it is near the top !
Or is it just a noisy minority on the social media machine, who proclaim people who don't share their exact ideology are nazis or commies?
No. It is 7 in 10 Democrats
"Most Democrats who are looking for a relationship would not consider dating a Trump voter"
There's not sharing your exact ideology and then there is voting for Trump
I (if dating) wouldn't preclude anyone who voted for any of the UK's PMs in my life time (PM when I was born was Thatcher). But I'd wonder about someone I knew in advance had voted Trump. It could certainly be overcome, if I knew them and liked them, but I'd be swiping left (or is it right?) on the dating app if there was a MAGA hat showing.
Boris fancies the arse off Angela, doesn't he? Hard to watch
Eew. I won't try to watch. Is it reciprocated?
I think not.
Lefty girls love right wingers, speaking from experience.
Really? More power to your – er – elbow.
My wife would be classed as a communist in Switzerland, though maybe just a standard lefty over here. She tried to keep my right wingery a secret from her friends for a few months when we started dating as well lol, then she blamed it on our age gap and that being right wing in the UK is like being in the centre in Switzerland. However she rationalised it we're still together 8 years later, and married!
That's nothing, I married a plastic Scouser, cannot get more leftie than that.
Yes, my ex-gf was a northern working class radical lefty feminist, she's a HR director at a giant tech company these days from what I've heard and married to a zillionaire hedgie.
Starting to sound to me more like right wingers love lefty girls, judging from your experience
No doubt! Possibly something to do with enjoying the being challenged. Why marry someone who only every agrees with you about everything? Seems boring to me.
One thing that I don't get is the seeming recent trend to date solely with people that share your political views. I'd place it about 200th in terms of stuff I look for in a potential partner - but for a subset (Mainly on the hard left I think) it is near the top !
Or is it just a noisy minority on the social media machine, who proclaim people who don't share their exact ideology are nazis or commies?
No. It is 7 in 10 Democrats
"Most Democrats who are looking for a relationship would not consider dating a Trump voter"
OK I'm off to Soho for pointless but agreeable drinks. Later
There is loads of back filling going on / different reporting across the nations because of bank holidays and the varying different policies about when they report during weekends and holidays.
Hmm. Is 46 a ludicrously high or laughably small number of mutations? I have honestly no idea, and wouldn't be surprised by either. Nor if it was pretty standard. This pandemic certainly has exposed some gaps in everyone's knowledge I reckon.
To be honest most people outside science can't tell the difference between a subscript and a superscript in a chemical formula/symbol, so a detailed understanding of viral mutation is very much going to be beyond them...
Talking of High Priestess Pagel, I made the mistake of looking at her Twitter feed yesterday.
The absolute state of the replies to her tweets. She is like a cult leader seemingly, I could barely believe that some of her devotees were real. Maybe they aren't.
sadly I think they are real.
They look quite real.. Ooops! You weren't talking about Angela
8% of 2020 Biden voters would now vote for Trump in 2024
The way the polls are in the US in general doesn't seem to get much mention these days, oddly.
Weirdly, I'm still waiting for a retraction on your much repeated claim that Christmas in Gibraltar was cancelled.
Come on, come on, it's not hard. Something like:
I'm sorry I posted four times about Christmas was "cancelled" in Gibraltar despite vaccinations. I accept that of the three people in hospital with Covid, two were unvaccinated, and that the only legal restrictions in Gibraltar are mask mandates in shops and on public transport.
I don't think that should be too hard for you.
If you don't want to do that, I'll accept your silence as an admission that you weren't ignorant, and were just simply lying.
Italy considers making COVID-19 vaccination mandatory for everyone age 50 and older - ANSA
How do you do that? Fines for refuseniks? Actually go into people's homes, pin them to the pasta maker, and jab them?
FrancisUrquhart
"Exile them all to the Island of Elba?"
Able was I [to get jabbed} ere I saw Elba
Elba is actually lovely. I could quite happily be exiled there
We could have a whip round?
Please! I'm of an age when spending my twilight years sipping Tuscan wine on a balcony in Elba is IMMENSELY APPEALING
Gazing at their equivalent of red telephone boxes. See? ... Bliss. Don't fight it. Time now for reflecting and observing and doing both of those things in silence and with complete honesty. No longer the need to be large or lurid or loud. No longer the need to pretend.
Talking of High Priestess Pagel, I made the mistake of looking at her Twitter feed yesterday.
The absolute state of the replies to her tweets. She is like a cult leader seemingly, I could barely believe that some of her devotees were real. Maybe they aren't.
Its a big problem. You'd have to expect that at some level the likes of Pagel and Yates (he of my parish) rather like being the Messiah and having a huge following. How do they stop? Do they want to stop? They have a vested interest in the pandemic continuing, if only for the gratification of getting tweets, likes and follows.
When you look at the deaths by date of death graph now, deaths have basically been flat since 27 Nov.
There was a tiny uptick in first week of Dec followed by an equivalent downtick but overall they've been flat for the last 6 weeks.
Whereas if you had read threads on here, it was posted numerous times throughout Dec by people supposedly doing all kinds of clever analysis that deaths were falling in Dec.
As for what happens next, a rise looks likely but we'll have to see.
- Cases rising quite rapidly. We are seeing London like surges in various areas now - the range of Regional R is interesting.... London cases are now falling again.
- Admissions. Bouncing around, due to regional variations. But the overall R number has dropped.. Have we plateaued?
- Mechanical Ventilator bed occupancy is still flat(ish)
- Deaths are flat(ish) though there are indications of a rise
I still find those graphs hard to interpret, but instinctively your London charts look quite promising to my amateur eye?
Cases are going down. 18-64 Admissions are definitely heading down, the others are showing some signs... Deaths are going up (delayed reporting for the last few days of data etc).
Comments
"Every woman adores a Fascist,
The boot in the face, the brute
Brute heart of a brute like you."
Allegedly speaking of her German father, but almost certainly addressed - as well - to her then-estranged husband Ted Hughes, who was really quite right wing (like many poets), and with whom she had a bit of a BDSM thing going on
His 'balls' reference was to Ed Davey and was amusing
The UKHSA has announced that confirmatory PCR tests will no longer be available for those who test positive on an LFT test without symptoms, raising fears of staff shortages being exacerbated by false positives.
No peeking..
"Xian updates Covid-19 rules as two unborn babies lost to hospital delays
Video posted on social media showed bloodied eight-months pregnant woman waiting outside a hospital for two hours as her Covid-19 test was invalid
A second woman miscarried and had to undergo an abortion after multiple hospitals refused entry over technicalities"
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3162270/xian-updates-covid-19-rules-two-unborn-babies-lost-hospital?utm_source=rss_feed
I've seen that video - I linked to it here, a couple of days ago - interesting to see that it is real. Also, desperately sad
At some point these stories will surely harm the CCP?
Boris Johnson: 39%
Angela Rayner: 23%
https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1473007807989526528?s=20
At this moment, which of the following individuals do you think would be the better PM for the UK? (20 Dec)
Keir Starmer: 35%
Boris Johnson: 34%
https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1472992707501080581?s=20
No wonder Boris loves Rayner!
"Exile them all to the Island of Elba?"
Able was I [to get jabbed} ere I saw Elba
Elba is actually lovely. I could quite happily be exiled there
The absolute state of the replies to her tweets. She is like a cult leader seemingly, I could barely believe that some of her devotees were real. Maybe they aren't.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/28/17059694/hybrid-ev-car-noise-nhtsa-nissan
Donald Trump: 44% (+2)
Joe Biden: 38% (–)
Don't know: 12% (-4)
https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1473699912885977088?s=20
8% of 2020 Biden voters would now vote for Trump in 2024
My wife is a little to the right of me, I'd say, but probably not by much. Basing that mainly on her voting for Cameron, I think, in 2015.
Yet another warning signal for the USA
Coincidentally last night I read a brilliant short book about Why Civilisations Collapse. Immoderate Greatness. I recommend it to all interested PBers
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Immoderate-Greatness-Why-Civilizations-Fail/dp/1479243140
The auguries for America and the wider West are really not good. We are exhibiting all the major signs of terminal decline; America is just ahead of the western pack
England patients admitted 2,219
People ventilation beds 769
"Most Democrats who are looking for a relationship would not consider dating a Trump voter"
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/24/most-democrats-who-are-looking-for-a-relationship-would-not-consider-dating-a-trump-voter/
By Date of Death for England.
04-01-2022 33
03-01-2022 79
02-01-2022 87
01-01-2022 91
31-12-2021 94
30-12-2021 131
29-12-2021 81
28-12-2021 125
27-12-2021 105
26-12-2021 94
25-12-2021 81
24-12-2021 99
Come on, come on, it's not hard. Something like:
I'm sorry I posted four times about Christmas was "cancelled" in Gibraltar despite vaccinations. I accept that of the three people in hospital with Covid, two were unvaccinated, and that the only legal restrictions in Gibraltar are mask mandates in shops and on public transport.
I don't think that should be too hard for you.
If you don't want to do that, I'll accept your silence as an admission that you weren't ignorant, and were just simply lying.
Your call.
I've just been quoted £600 + VAT to provide a legal opinion on a two-page Declaration of Trust involving one freehold house. How many hours (minutes more like) are they going to spend on it?
Grrr!
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
January is going to be challenging.
OK I'm off to Soho for pointless but agreeable drinks. Later
I (if dating) wouldn't preclude anyone who voted for any of the UK's PMs in my life time (PM when I was born was Thatcher). But I'd wonder about someone I knew in advance had voted Trump. It could certainly be overcome, if I knew them and liked them, but I'd be swiping left (or is it right?) on the dating app if there was a MAGA hat showing.
334 'today'
You have fallen foul of the ancient date of reporting trap ––– again!
Ooops! You weren't talking about Angela
There was a tiny uptick in first week of Dec followed by an equivalent downtick but overall they've been flat for the last 6 weeks.
Whereas if you had read threads on here, it was posted numerous times throughout Dec by people supposedly doing all kinds of clever analysis that deaths were falling in Dec.
As for what happens next, a rise looks likely but we'll have to see.
Lots of data filling in at last
- Cases rising quite rapidly. We are seeing London like surges in various areas now - the range of Regional R is interesting.... London cases are now falling again.
- Admissions. Bouncing around, due to regional variations. But the overall R number has dropped.. Have we plateaued?
- Mechanical Ventilator bed occupancy is still flat(ish)
- Deaths are flat(ish) though there are indications of a rise
Deaths are actually....
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/jan/05/filming-cyclingmikey-dangerous-drivers-mike-van-erp-motorists-britain-roads-safer
A bit of stuff not quite right on the casualties, but a good piece.