After over-turning a 26% deficit can LAB’s recovery be sustained? – politicalbetting.com
The chart illustrates what has been a quite remarkable recovery since Starmer became leader on April 4th last year. He’s taken his party from a polling deficit of 26% to being just ahead in several current polls.
Nobody hospitalised by this variant is fully vaccinated
There is virtually zero chance that this variant was detected within days of it emerging. Much more likely it has been in Southern Africa for months before South Africa picked it up. Death rates are not sharply up in Southern Africa.
I am standing the site down to defcon 4. Enjoy your weekend.
Didn't the slides show they have been doing sequencing pretty continuously, and it was almost all Delta until now?
Yes. In South Africa. There is no particular reason to think it started in South Africa, though. First case was Botswana.
PCR tests for arrivals. Would probably have been an excellent idea 20 months ago.
Why? Just delaying the inevitable.
What are we going to do with the positives?
Isolate them for 10 days so they infect fewer others. Won't work indefinitely but it does buy time for new variants to be assessed. In the long run we all get it, no argument from me on that.
To be honest, so far he's been so mind bendingly incoherent it's difficult to tell what he's doing. Wishy washy general statements but very little detail.
To be honest, so far he's been so mind bendingly incoherent it's difficult to tell what he's doing. Wishy washy general statements but very little detail.
It will be worse that what he says because he doesn't like to give bad news.
Why are France and Macron so supported, and seemingly admired, by the europhiles and the left when he has so clearly ordered his Gendarmes to harry the refugees into the Channel?
Why are France and Macron so supported, and seemingly admired, by the europhiles and the left when he has so clearly ordered his Gendarmes to harry the refugees into the Channel?
To be honest, so far he's been so mind bendingly incoherent it's difficult to tell what he's doing. Wishy washy general statements but very little detail.
It will be worse that what he says because he doesn't like to give bad news.
My only concern is why what we have heard required the A team out on a Saturday. Its pretty boring to be honest.
Why are France and Macron so supported, and seemingly admired, by the europhiles and the left when he has so clearly ordered his Gendarmes to harry the refugees into the Channel?
Oh how I have missed the moronic media questions...
Boris and the Egg Heads - We won't know about things for 2-3 weeks until tests are done.
Media...can you tell us exactly to the minute when restrictions will be eased or raised, you said 3 weeks, but why so long, so say you are waiting too long....others say you are going to hard....
I'd love this to be true but I think it's far too early to get to that conclusion. We're about to see it burn through unvaccinated Germans and Dutch so fingers crossed.
Is an Iraqi who saved up for four years while working in Germany to get a place on a boat to the UK an asylum seeking refugee or an economic immigrant?
Oh how I have missed the moronic media questions...
Boris and the Egg Heads - We won't know about things for 2-3 weeks until tests are done.
Media...can you tell us exactly to the minute when restrictions will be eased or raised, you said 3 weeks, but why so long, so say you are waiting too long....others say you are going to hard....
To be honest, so far he's been so mind bendingly incoherent it's difficult to tell what he's doing. Wishy washy general statements but very little detail.
It will be worse that what he says because he doesn't like to give bad news.
My only concern is why what we have heard required the A team out on a Saturday. Its pretty boring to be honest.
Because this is about Johnson reacting to prior criticisms levelled against him, that he didn't act fast enough. Politics and PR, not science. Again.
One annoying thing, clearly the Witty and Valance have said we need to start giving boosters sooner than 6 months and get everybody boostered. And the government are going to ask the JCVI to think about this....repeat of August incoming....drag feet, drag feet, make loads of appearances on the media moaning about why aren't we vaccinating the world...drag feet, drag feet...announce a fudge.
The government should just say, go go go from Monday...
They seem to be holding back the 4pm update for Boris. But in the last 7 days cases are up 10%, admissions down 10.5% and deaths down 15.5%. I am currently not seeing any reason for panic.
And the rising cases are STILL in the kids...
Numbers are out: 39,567
Down week on week after yesterday's blip.
Using the reporting day data, it look as if cases a flat(ish) at the moment.
Is an Iraqi who saved up for four years while working in Germany to get a place on a boat to the UK an asylum seeking refugee or an economic immigrant?
Real refugee: "I NEED to get to the nearest safe country PDQ!" Non-refugee: "I WANT to get to the UK by any means!"
One annoying thing, clearly the Witty and Valance have said we need to start giving boosters sooner than 6 months and get everybody boostered. And the government are going to ask the JCVI to think about this....repeat of August incoming....drag feet, drag feet, make loads of appearances on the media moaning about why aren't we vaccinating the world...drag feet, drag feet...announce a fudge.
The government should just say, go go go from Monday...
Yes, the JCVI had its place when vaccines were limited in availability, now they aren't, the government doesn't need that extra layer of bureaucracy. Ideally Javid lays down the law tonight and 18+ boosters with a 4.5 month gap are introduced, I think it makes an additional 10m eligible overnight.
Whitty says the discovery of omicron "really changes the risk-benefit calculations" over booster vaccines for the under-40s. JCVI will come back with its conclusions "rapidly", he adds.
- Cases are flattening out, overall. The trend continues of a steady fall in the older groups - Hospitalisations are still falling, with a interesting segmentation in the ages - the main fall is in the 65-84 group - Deaths are still falling.
"tightening up the rules on face coverings in shops and on public transport"
Does that mean compulsory, or pretty please?
That's what I mean by wishy washy.
Not, of course, that it can be enforced anyway as I've pointed out before. But some precision would be useful.
Can't announce it outside parliament can he?
I agree with the principle that policy should be told to Parliament first. However, I think the Speaker needs to get off his high horse if he thinks that there are no exceptions. Urgent public health advice shouldn't have to wait for a day when Parliament sits.
Sky's on-screen caption claims that the PM said masks will be mandatory. I didn't hear it.
He did suggest that they should be used on public transport and in public buildings but he ducked the question of whether this is a recommendation or a legal requirement.
Whitty says the discovery of omicron "really changes the risk-benefit calculations" over booster vaccines for the under-40s. JCVI will come back with its conclusions "rapidly", he adds.
Whitty says the discovery of omicron "really changes the risk-benefit calculations" over booster vaccines for the under-40s. JCVI will come back with its conclusions "rapidly", he adds.
It will be a real struggle to get people to wear masks again because Covid is a clear and present danger having told them that they don't need them because Covid is over.
On the question, I think the issue is this. Labour can get so far by two factors:
Boris being much less adept at prime ministerial strategy than even his critics expected. The one thing you would expect really is an absence of utterly lazy unforced errors, and this element has been startling.
Secondly, Labour has made few unforced errors so far, by doing a bit to detoxify, getting not much press attention, and having no policies of the sort you can dissect and destroy.
At some point SKS has a critical decision to make; does he risk winning (ie obtaining a Lab led alliance of some sort) by relying on those two factors; or does he risk winning (ie getting an alliance of some sort) by having a programme for which enough people would affirmatively vote - one which is bound to be open to dissection but would appear to be needed in order to get beyond a certain point.
The Tories are putting no effort into attacking Labour ATM, but are saving material for later. My view is that Labour need an identifiable programme to resist the onslaught to come. But it is a risk, especially when we are already maxed out on tax, spend and debt.
Some very good news! This useless embarrassment of a Prime Minister is losing popularity at a speed that would make Jimmy Saville blush and Sir Keir Starmer's qualities are finally showing themselves.
A little more media training and he should go roaring ahead
(Could someone off stage tell Johnson that this is not intended as a political broadcast for himself. It really doesn't sound good)
As much as you protest he is Prime Minister and is right to address the nation
Oh how I have missed the moronic media questions...
Boris and the Egg Heads - We won't know about things for 2-3 weeks until tests are done.
Media...can you tell us exactly to the minute when restrictions will be eased or raised, you said 3 weeks, but why so long, so say you are waiting too long....others say you are going to hard....
omicron-aimed questions...
3 weeks time: we have determined that Omicron spreads like measles but is no worse than a cold. Snog a Saffer under the mistletoe.
"The amateur scientists among us said we will definitely have this variant already" says idiot journalist before asking well what will the exact state of play be at Christmas.
It will be a real struggle to get people to wear masks again because Covid is a clear and present danger having told them that they don't need them because Covid is over.
Who told them Covid is over? Having no restrictions is not the same as saying it’s over. I agree that it will be a struggle though. I’ve never stopped wearing masks in shops, so no bother for me, but a lot have.
Whitty says the discovery of omicron "really changes the risk-benefit calculations" over booster vaccines for the under-40s. JCVI will come back with its conclusions "rapidly", he adds.
It will be a real struggle to get people to wear masks again because Covid is a clear and present danger having told them that they don't need them because Covid is over.
Who told them Covid is over? Having no restrictions is not the same as saying it’s over. I agree that it will be a struggle though. I’ve never stopped wearing masks in shops, so no bother for me, but a lot have.
I actually can't remember the last time I saw somebody wearing a mask in the shops round here.
There are an awful lot of wankers trying to hype this up for clickbait.
The stupid masks are very annoying, but at least the fact that all they've bothered to do is bring them back for shops, trains and buses (we've not even gone so far as WFH at this stage) indicates that this is a token measure. Personally, I'll put up with the masks grudgingly, but if the review in three weeks results in pleas not to go anywhere near our families, or attempts to resurrect the Rule of Six (or anything approximating to it,) then they can fuck right off.
It would also be nice if they'd not simultaneously plead with us to book booster jabs and insist we wait over a month (Christmas is now in the way for all new appointments) between doing so and getting them.
I've got two gigs coming up. Next Thursday in Manchester, then Saturday week after that in that London. Both already have a "show us yer vax or no admittance" policy. Wonder if by the time we get anywhere near that the whole thing is shitcanned.
Whitty says the discovery of omicron "really changes the risk-benefit calculations" over booster vaccines for the under-40s. JCVI will come back with its conclusions "rapidly", he adds.
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I think he'd be a terrible leader - Blair would be a very low bar for him to better.
https://www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/2021/11/27/covid-19-l-etonnante-situation-sanitaire-du-royaume-uni_6103817_3244.html
Distinctly unappealing for anyone normal.
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The only question is when we abolish Holyrood.
https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1464622927333232640?t=H4EFr3ecSLxCKZO_C8HTmA&s=19
Does that mean compulsory, or pretty please?
Not, of course, that it can be enforced anyway as I've pointed out before. But some precision would be useful.
Boris and the Egg Heads - We won't know about things for 2-3 weeks until tests are done.
Media...can you tell us exactly to the minute when restrictions will be eased or raised, you said 3 weeks, but why so long, so say you are waiting too long....others say you are going to hard....
But it really shouldn't be long before S. Africa knows about hospitalizations in that region that is almost completely Omicron.
My young grandchildren would be more relevant in their questioning
Why wait until tomorrow? Announce it now, enforce from midnight, if that is the policy.
Will people pay any attention? Or will the government exemption certificate app crash under the pressure?
The government should just say, go go go from Monday...
Non-refugee: "I WANT to get to the UK by any means!"
Or indeed,take a trip on Gogalfrincham Ark B.
Johnson doesn't do bad news.
Quality of questions is utterly dire
https://twitter.com/HugoGye/status/1464647034242228234?s=20
Just bloody get on with it....
- Cases are flattening out, overall. The trend continues of a steady fall in the older groups
- Hospitalisations are still falling, with a interesting segmentation in the ages - the main fall is in the 65-84 group
- Deaths are still falling.
This useless embarrassment of a Prime Minister is losing popularity at a speed that would make Jimmy Saville blush.
Sir Keir Starmer's qualities are finally showing themselves.
A little more media training and he should start moving ahead
(Could someone off stage tell Johnson that this is not intended as a political broadcast for himself. It really doesn't sound good)
Certainly shops and public transport. Maybe moving around in pubs, not sure, let's see what Sajid says.
Boris being much less adept at prime ministerial strategy than even his critics expected. The one thing you would expect really is an absence of utterly lazy unforced errors, and this element has been startling.
Secondly, Labour has made few unforced errors so far, by doing a bit to detoxify, getting not much press attention, and having no policies of the sort you can dissect and destroy.
At some point SKS has a critical decision to make; does he risk winning (ie obtaining a Lab led alliance of some sort) by relying on those two factors;
or does he risk winning (ie getting an alliance of some sort) by having a programme for which enough people would affirmatively vote - one which is bound to be open to dissection but would appear to be needed in order to get beyond a certain point.
The Tories are putting no effort into attacking Labour ATM, but are saving material for later. My view is that Labour need an identifiable programme to resist the onslaught to come. But it is a risk, especially when we are already maxed out on tax, spend and debt.
If so, he goes up in my estimation.
I agree that it will be a struggle though. I’ve never stopped wearing masks in shops, so no bother for me, but a lot have.
The stupid masks are very annoying, but at least the fact that all they've bothered to do is bring them back for shops, trains and buses (we've not even gone so far as WFH at this stage) indicates that this is a token measure. Personally, I'll put up with the masks grudgingly, but if the review in three weeks results in pleas not to go anywhere near our families, or attempts to resurrect the Rule of Six (or anything approximating to it,) then they can fuck right off.
It would also be nice if they'd not simultaneously plead with us to book booster jabs and insist we wait over a month (Christmas is now in the way for all new appointments) between doing so and getting them.
Aching a bit this afternoon but the mother of all headaches has attacked now…..