Relative of mine just got notice for their booster, but the nearest place to receive it is 25 miles way. Things are much better, but there's room for improvement.
I love this lefty response to Biden using the OTHER N word
"Typically it’s not acceptable but here he was clearly talking about the Negro Leagues which is what the African American segregated baseball league was called at the time. The outrage here in this thread is entirely misplaced."
I mean, fuck off. Anyone using this term on TV will get cancelled. Except, it seems, a Democrat American President
Imagine if Trump said it
Rather amusing though that all the wokeists who voted to remove Trump only managed to do so with an unwoke, elderly white male who is very gaffe prone as with this
I love this lefty response to Biden using the OTHER N word
"Typically it’s not acceptable but here he was clearly talking about the Negro Leagues which is what the African American segregated baseball league was called at the time. The outrage here in this thread is entirely misplaced."
PB people, if you ever want to understand the term "gaslighting" then this is the clearest example I have ever seen
The president called a guy "the great Negro"
But apparently he didn't, because
"The president obviously began to say “Great Negro League pitcher,” but then paused and shifted to saying “at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues,” which was, in fact, the name of the league that Black players formed when they were shut out of Major League Baseball. That this needs to be explained is beyond absurd."
To prove this assertion, they link to the video where Biden says "the great negro", they are thus trying to deny what is obviously true, and in front of your face, and in the most overt way, such that you might get confused, and doubt your own senses. THAT is gaslighting
I love this lefty response to Biden using the OTHER N word
"Typically it’s not acceptable but here he was clearly talking about the Negro Leagues which is what the African American segregated baseball league was called at the time. The outrage here in this thread is entirely misplaced."
I mean, fuck off. Anyone using this term on TV will get cancelled. Except, it seems, a Democrat American President
Imagine if Trump said it
That is true that whatever the reason he would be pilloried if he said it, but Biden is not liked by many 'progressives', so while they'll not paint him in the same terms of Trump, and fair enough, I am pretty confident there will be Democrats who do come out and call it unacceptable.
I love this lefty response to Biden using the OTHER N word
"Typically it’s not acceptable but here he was clearly talking about the Negro Leagues which is what the African American segregated baseball league was called at the time. The outrage here in this thread is entirely misplaced."
Relative of mine just got notice for their booster, but the nearest place to receive it is 25 miles way. Things are much better, but there's room for improvement.
At least they’ve been offered a booster.
Yes, and that's worth being thankful for. It doesn't mean elements of the programme cannot be criticised or improvement sought. I am sure sites closer by will open up, but there can be issues if they start out quite far away.
I love this lefty response to Biden using the OTHER N word
"Typically it’s not acceptable but here he was clearly talking about the Negro Leagues which is what the African American segregated baseball league was called at the time. The outrage here in this thread is entirely misplaced."
I mean, fuck off. Anyone using this term on TV will get cancelled. Except, it seems, a Democrat American President
Imagine if Trump said it
Rather amusing though that all the wokeists who voted to remove Trump only managed to do so with an unwoke, elderly white male who is very gaffe prone as with this
Trump is a criminal traitor who broke his oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Biden can be attacked, but he is not a criminal traitor and has not broken his oath. I would be VERY wary of supporting Trump, just because you think he is a "Conservative". IF you do, then you know that we will judge you by your friends.
I love this lefty response to Biden using the OTHER N word
"Typically it’s not acceptable but here he was clearly talking about the Negro Leagues which is what the African American segregated baseball league was called at the time. The outrage here in this thread is entirely misplaced."
I mean, fuck off. Anyone using this term on TV will get cancelled. Except, it seems, a Democrat American President
Imagine if Trump said it
Rather amusing though that all the wokeists who voted to remove Trump only managed to do so with an unwoke, elderly white male who is very gaffe prone as with this
I don't think those people were Biden's core support.
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
I love this lefty response to Biden using the OTHER N word
"Typically it’s not acceptable but here he was clearly talking about the Negro Leagues which is what the African American segregated baseball league was called at the time. The outrage here in this thread is entirely misplaced."
I mean, fuck off. Anyone using this term on TV will get cancelled. Except, it seems, a Democrat American President
Imagine if Trump said it
That is true, but Biden is not liked by many 'progressives', so while they'll not paint him in the same terms of Trump, and fair enough, I am pretty confident there will be Democrats who do come out and call it unacceptable.
None so far
TBH I genuinely think he is just a confused old man with some antiquated terminology, and its very hard to forget words you grew up with. I don't remotely think he is a secret Klansman (tho he might have some ripe opinions lurking)
However the attempt to deny he didn't say what we can all hear him saying is insane and insulting. Also counter-productive
I love this lefty response to Biden using the OTHER N word
"Typically it’s not acceptable but here he was clearly talking about the Negro Leagues which is what the African American segregated baseball league was called at the time. The outrage here in this thread is entirely misplaced."
I love this lefty response to Biden using the OTHER N word
"Typically it’s not acceptable but here he was clearly talking about the Negro Leagues which is what the African American segregated baseball league was called at the time. The outrage here in this thread is entirely misplaced."
I mean, fuck off. Anyone using this term on TV will get cancelled. Except, it seems, a Democrat American President
Imagine if Trump said it
Rather amusing though that all the wokeists who voted to remove Trump only managed to do so with an unwoke, elderly white male who is very gaffe prone as with this
I don't think those people were Biden's core support.
That is the point, Hillary was more culturally progressive than Biden but lost the rustbelt and the Electoral College. Biden was only able to beat Trump in most of the rustbelt and win the EC by being more culturally conservative than she was
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
BTW - did you see the Ignatious talk last night on "our place in space"?
I love this lefty response to Biden using the OTHER N word
"Typically it’s not acceptable but here he was clearly talking about the Negro Leagues which is what the African American segregated baseball league was called at the time. The outrage here in this thread is entirely misplaced."
I mean, fuck off. Anyone using this term on TV will get cancelled. Except, it seems, a Democrat American President
Imagine if Trump said it
Rather amusing though that all the wokeists who voted to remove Trump only managed to do so with an unwoke, elderly white male who is very gaffe prone as with this
Trump is a criminal traitor who broke his oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Biden can be attacked, but he is not a criminal traitor and has not broken his oath. I would be VERY wary of supporting Trump, just because you think he is a "Conservative". IF you do, then you know that we will judge you by your friends.
I don't support Trump but I don't support ultra woke either, like the average US voter.
Hence the GOP easily won the Virginia governorship and legislature with Trump no longer on the ballot when it became a de facto referendum on wokeism
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Some terms are only ok in very specific configurations according to the nebulous rules of society. Colored People being a famous example. In this case even though the league can hardly be otherwise referred to, saying 'the great negro' counts as a gaffe as it sounds awkward as hell, even though the context for such a reference seems pretty clear.
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
BTW - did you see the Ignatious talk last night on "our place in space"?
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Some terms are only ok in very specific configurations according to the nebulous rules of society. Colored People being a famous example. In this case even though the league can hardly be otherwise referred to, saying 'the great negro' counts as a gaffe as it sounds awkward as hell, even though the context for such a reference seems pretty clear.
Also, it wouldn't matter if the Woke weren't so intensely keen on getting people cancelled and ruined for just one verbal gaffe. Here is the American President making an enormous racist gaffe, live on TV, and suddenly it doesn't really matter, or, even worse, it doesn't matter because "he didn't actually say it, even tho we can all see and hear that he actually did say it."
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Some terms are only ok in very specific configurations according to the nebulous rules of society. Colored People being a famous example. In this case even though the league can hardly be otherwise referred to, saying 'the great negro' counts as a gaffe as it sounds awkward as hell, even though the context for such a reference seems pretty clear.
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
Well fair enough then. I must withdraw my objection. The Negro League, however, remains the Negro League. It has no other name AFAIAA. And is frequently talked about as such.
Plenty of polling excitement on here following Redfield-Wilton but Bulgaria votes this coming weekend and we have two polls out today:
First, Mediana - changes from July election:
GERB/SDS: 25.4% (+1.9) We Continue the Change (PP): 17.3% (+17.3) Socialists (BSP): 15.6% (+2.2) There is Such a Nation (ITN): 12.2% (-11.9) Movement of Rights and Freedoms (DPS): 10.6% (-0.1) Democratic Bulgaria (DB): 9.7% (-2.9) Stand Up Bulgaria! (IBG.NI): 4.2% (-0.8) Revival (V): 3.1% (+0.1) National Movement (VMRO): 2.2% (-0.9)
Then, Trend - ditto
GERB/SDS: 22.9% (-0.6) Socialists (BSP): 15.1% (+1.7) We Continue the Change (PP): 14.8% (+14.8) There is Such a Nation (ITN): 12.8% (-11.3) Movement of Rights and Freedoms (DPS): 10.3% (-0.4) Democratic Bulgaria (DB): 9.1% (-3.5) Revival (V): 3.6% (+0.6) Stand Up Bulgaria! (IBG.NI): 3.3% (-1.7) National Movement (VMRO): 2.2% (-0.9)
Electoral threshold is 4% so IBG-NI are on the brink but the leading six parties should all get in with the biggest change the index of PP at the expense of ITN. The latest Presidential poll shows Radev eighteen points ahead of the GERB supported Gerdzhikov (46-28). That won't be enough for an outright win on the first ballot but should be an easy second round win. The question is whether PP, the Socialists, DPS and DB can sink their differences and out together a coalition to exclude both GERB-SDS and ITN.
I love this lefty response to Biden using the OTHER N word
"Typically it’s not acceptable but here he was clearly talking about the Negro Leagues which is what the African American segregated baseball league was called at the time. The outrage here in this thread is entirely misplaced."
PB people, if you ever want to understand the term "gaslighting" then this is the clearest example I have ever seen
The president called a guy "the great Negro"
But apparently he didn't, because
"The president obviously began to say “Great Negro League pitcher,” but then paused and shifted to saying “at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues,” which was, in fact, the name of the league that Black players formed when they were shut out of Major League Baseball. That this needs to be explained is beyond absurd."
To prove this assertion, they link to the video where Biden says "the great negro", they are thus trying to deny what is obviously true, and in front of your face, and in the most overt way, such that you might get confused, and doubt your own senses. THAT is gaslighting
I wanted to believe, for the laughs, that Joe's long hidden inner-racist was now sleepy talking, but I'm pretty sure he'd just realised halfway through that he needed to explain his use of 'negro' and did it in an exceedingly clumsy way.
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Some terms are only ok in very specific configurations according to the nebulous rules of society. Colored People being a famous example. In this case even though the league can hardly be otherwise referred to, saying 'the great negro' counts as a gaffe as it sounds awkward as hell, even though the context for such a reference seems pretty clear.
Also, it wouldn't matter if the Woke weren't so intensely keen on getting people cancelled and ruined for just one verbal gaffe. Here is the American President making an enormous racist gaffe, live on TV, and suddenly it doesn't really matter, or, even worse, it doesn't matter because "he didn't actually say it, even tho we can all see and hear that he actually did say it."
Gaslights, gaslights, everywhere
Of course Trump's best chance in 2024 is for Biden to not get the Democratic nomination and for an ultra woke liberal to get it instead.
Biden is very gaffe prone but he is still a more electable Democrat than the left liberal urban AOC wing of their party
PB people, if you ever want to understand the term "gaslighting" then this is the clearest example I have ever seen
The president called a guy "the great Negro"
But apparently he didn't, because
"The president obviously began to say “Great Negro League pitcher,” but then paused and shifted to saying “at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues,” which was, in fact, the name of the league that Black players formed when they were shut out of Major League Baseball. That this needs to be explained is beyond absurd."
To prove this assertion, they link to the video where Biden says "the great negro", they are thus trying to deny what is obviously true, and in front of your face, and in the most overt way, such that you might get confused, and doubt your own senses. THAT is gaslighting
I wanted to believe, for the laughs, that Joe's long hidden inner-racist was now sleepy talking, but I'm pretty sure he'd just realised halfway through that he needed to explain his use of 'negro' and did it in an exceedingly clumsy way.
Yes, but he says "the great negro". He does. He just DOES.
- Johnson also juggled job of being MP with editing Spectator mag from 2001 to 2005
- the @ft calculation of £4.3m doesn’t even include his first stint in Westminster from 2001-2008 because the register didn’t demand disclosure of precise payments then
I love this lefty response to Biden using the OTHER N word
"Typically it’s not acceptable but here he was clearly talking about the Negro Leagues which is what the African American segregated baseball league was called at the time. The outrage here in this thread is entirely misplaced."
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
He's clearly referring to the name of the league and mis-spoke. No he's not saying "the great Negro" at its basics, he's referring to the Negro League which was literally its name.
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Some terms are only ok in very specific configurations according to the nebulous rules of society. Colored People being a famous example. In this case even though the league can hardly be otherwise referred to, saying 'the great negro' counts as a gaffe as it sounds awkward as hell, even though the context for such a reference seems pretty clear.
Also, it wouldn't matter if the Woke weren't so intensely keen on getting people cancelled and ruined for just one verbal gaffe. Here is the American President making an enormous racist gaffe, live on TV, and suddenly it doesn't really matter, or, even worse, it doesn't matter because "he didn't actually say it, even tho we can all see and hear that he actually did say it."
Gaslights, gaslights, everywhere
Of course Trump's best chance in 2024 is for Biden to not get the Democratic nomination and for an ultra woke liberal to get it instead.
Biden is very gaffe prone but he is still a more electable Democrat than the left liberal urban AOC wing of their party
At the moment I think we are cruising, comfortably, to the horror of a Trump victory.
With a sensible non-demented Democrat centrist candidate, it would be impossible. The Dems win against Trump. Clearly if the Republican party gets a grip, it won't be allowed, Trump won't even be the nominee
Yet it looks like it will be Trump versus either an ulra-Woke Dem or Senile Joe Biden, and Trump could easily win either
PB people, if you ever want to understand the term "gaslighting" then this is the clearest example I have ever seen
The president called a guy "the great Negro"
But apparently he didn't, because
"The president obviously began to say “Great Negro League pitcher,” but then paused and shifted to saying “at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues,” which was, in fact, the name of the league that Black players formed when they were shut out of Major League Baseball. That this needs to be explained is beyond absurd."
To prove this assertion, they link to the video where Biden says "the great negro", they are thus trying to deny what is obviously true, and in front of your face, and in the most overt way, such that you might get confused, and doubt your own senses. THAT is gaslighting
I wanted to believe, for the laughs, that Joe's long hidden inner-racist was now sleepy talking, but I'm pretty sure he'd just realised halfway through that he needed to explain his use of 'negro' and did it in an exceedingly clumsy way.
Yes, but he says "the great negro". He does. He just DOES.
FFS
All else is supposition
Yes. He says "The great negro at the time pitcher in the Negro League"
Which only makes any sense if it's with the explanation offered.
PB people, if you ever want to understand the term "gaslighting" then this is the clearest example I have ever seen
The president called a guy "the great Negro"
But apparently he didn't, because
"The president obviously began to say “Great Negro League pitcher,” but then paused and shifted to saying “at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues,” which was, in fact, the name of the league that Black players formed when they were shut out of Major League Baseball. That this needs to be explained is beyond absurd."
To prove this assertion, they link to the video where Biden says "the great negro", they are thus trying to deny what is obviously true, and in front of your face, and in the most overt way, such that you might get confused, and doubt your own senses. THAT is gaslighting
I wanted to believe, for the laughs, that Joe's long hidden inner-racist was now sleepy talking, but I'm pretty sure he'd just realised halfway through that he needed to explain his use of 'negro' and did it in an exceedingly clumsy way.
Yes, but he says "the great negro". He does. He just DOES.
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
He's clearly referring to the name of the league and mis-spoke. No he's not saying "the great Negro" at its basics, he's referring to the Negro League which was literally its name.
But what does he actually SAY. I don't want your idle speculation, just repeat what he actually SAYS
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Some terms are only ok in very specific configurations according to the nebulous rules of society. Colored People being a famous example. In this case even though the league can hardly be otherwise referred to, saying 'the great negro' counts as a gaffe as it sounds awkward as hell, even though the context for such a reference seems pretty clear.
Also, it wouldn't matter if the Woke weren't so intensely keen on getting people cancelled and ruined for just one verbal gaffe. Here is the American President making an enormous racist gaffe, live on TV, and suddenly it doesn't really matter, or, even worse, it doesn't matter because "he didn't actually say it, even tho we can all see and hear that he actually did say it."
Gaslights, gaslights, everywhere
Of course Trump's best chance in 2024 is for Biden to not get the Democratic nomination and for an ultra woke liberal to get it instead.
Biden is very gaffe prone but he is still a more electable Democrat than the left liberal urban AOC wing of their party
At the moment I think we are cruising, comfortably, to the horror of a Trump victory.
With a sensible non-demented Democrat centrist candidate, it would be impossible. The Dems win against Trump. Clearly if the Republican party gets a grip, it won't be allowed, Trump won't even be the nominee
Yet it looks like it will be Trump versus either an ulra-Woke Dem or Senile Joe Biden, and Trump could easily win either
Trump could beat the former yes, in the privacy of the polling booth suburban voters might thing Trump the lesser of 2 evils. I think Biden would still beat Trump though, he is gaffe prone but he was gaffe prone in 2020. Voters did not expect him to be great, just better than Trump and he is not really woke
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
He's clearly referring to the name of the league and mis-spoke. No he's not saying "the great Negro" at its basics, he's referring to the Negro League which was literally its name.
But what does he actually SAY. I don't want your idle speculation, just repeat what he actually SAYS
PB people, if you ever want to understand the term "gaslighting" then this is the clearest example I have ever seen
The president called a guy "the great Negro"
But apparently he didn't, because
"The president obviously began to say “Great Negro League pitcher,” but then paused and shifted to saying “at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues,” which was, in fact, the name of the league that Black players formed when they were shut out of Major League Baseball. That this needs to be explained is beyond absurd."
To prove this assertion, they link to the video where Biden says "the great negro", they are thus trying to deny what is obviously true, and in front of your face, and in the most overt way, such that you might get confused, and doubt your own senses. THAT is gaslighting
I wanted to believe, for the laughs, that Joe's long hidden inner-racist was now sleepy talking, but I'm pretty sure he'd just realised halfway through that he needed to explain his use of 'negro' and did it in an exceedingly clumsy way.
Yes, but he says "the great negro". He does. He just DOES.
FFS
All else is supposition
Yes. He says "The great negro at the time pitcher in the Negro League"
Which only makes any sense if it's with the explanation offered.
Do you really think he meant anything else?
I'm glad you quoted it in full
He says
"the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in he Negro League"
THE GREAT NEGRO
There. We all agree. He said. Them three words in that order. Right there
So next time some poor idiot on Twitter is being cancelled for using "the wrong words" we can all refer to the President of the USA and say Oh they didn't say that, because they meant something else
Btw. Satchell Paige was one of the genuine all time baseball greats. Played from 1927 through to the Sixties. First African American to pitch in a World Series. Ought to be as famous as Babe Ruth or Joe diMaggio.
Has nobody spotted that yesterday had the highest number of first doses of Vaccine since July.
(And highest number of second doses since Sept).
I did. But I was told it is "data catch up" by Max, who normally knows his Covid onions
It's still good because what we thought were poor numbers was just an underreporting error. The booster shots look positively smashing at the moment. Should hit 3m per week next week.
I read that the Netherlands (I think) has only just started boostering over 80s. Madness
Europe hasn't really learned from out failures at all. I read that they aren't planning to start over 60s boosters until Jan 2020, it's not as though they don't have the supply either. Europe is sitting on something like 200m Pfizer doses for it's booster programme.
Hmm.. you're making the classic mistake of thinking that 'Europe' acts as though it were a single country. Ireland, France, Denmark, and Spain are far ahead of the UK in jab take-up despite the botched start, and France in particular is going great guns on the boosters. On the other hand, Germany, Switzerland and Austria are still miles behind the UK, and it's beginning to show in their deaths and hospitalisation figures. Further east it's disastrous.
The Netherlands is about the same as us in total take up, and you can see the protection in the figures. Like us, though, they've got too many cases for comfort:
France is not "going great guns on the boosters". They're only able to bring in the vaccine pass requirement for over 65s from December 15th - more than a month away. They are seriously behind the UK.
They most certainly are not miles behind the UK. We have 13.6% of over-12s completely unvaxxed (i.e. not even the first dose), they are on 8.4%.
Of course, they started later, so applying the same 6-month period that we apply, it's appropriate that the number of triple-jabbed is currently lower than ours. The point is, though, that they are getting on with it, and they are going to enforce it seriously. I fully expect them to get a higher triple-jab rate than us quite quickly.
They've done better in absolute total jabs because they have introduced rigorous, universal vaxports. I regret that the UK did not do the same, but it was an economic and libertarian choice, that we consciously made - supported by many on here
The only way you can drive up vax rates to 85%+ is with mandatory vaxports everywhere
The truly alarming figures in that FT twitter thread is the German-speaking non vaxed proportion of over 12s.
22-25%!! That's a huge reservoir of potential victims. That's nearly 20 million people in Germany
Germany really could be the latest victim of the golden rule of covid hubris. The share of positive tests they have at the moment suggests the true level of current cases is quite dramatic.
I posted the test positivity numbers yesterday, and Germany didn't stand out. It was nowhere near Ireland (14%) or some of South America or Eastern Europe (40+%)
Where are you getting your positivity numbers from?
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
He's clearly referring to the name of the league and mis-spoke. No he's not saying "the great Negro" at its basics, he's referring to the Negro League which was literally its name.
But what does he actually SAY. I don't want your idle speculation, just repeat what he actually SAYS
And what he actually SAYS is "Negro Leagues".
Do you, or do you not, agree that Joe Biden says "the great Negro" in those words, in that order?
PB people, if you ever want to understand the term "gaslighting" then this is the clearest example I have ever seen
The president called a guy "the great Negro"
But apparently he didn't, because
"The president obviously began to say “Great Negro League pitcher,” but then paused and shifted to saying “at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues,” which was, in fact, the name of the league that Black players formed when they were shut out of Major League Baseball. That this needs to be explained is beyond absurd."
To prove this assertion, they link to the video where Biden says "the great negro", they are thus trying to deny what is obviously true, and in front of your face, and in the most overt way, such that you might get confused, and doubt your own senses. THAT is gaslighting
I wanted to believe, for the laughs, that Joe's long hidden inner-racist was now sleepy talking, but I'm pretty sure he'd just realised halfway through that he needed to explain his use of 'negro' and did it in an exceedingly clumsy way.
Yes, but he says "the great negro". He does. He just DOES.
FFS
All else is supposition
Yes. He says "The great negro at the time pitcher in the Negro League"
Which only makes any sense if it's with the explanation offered.
Do you really think he meant anything else?
I'm glad you quoted it in full
He says
"the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in he Negro League"
THE GREAT NEGRO
There. We all agree. He said. Them three words in that order. Right there
So next time some poor idiot on Twitter is being cancelled for using "the wrong words" we can all refer to the President of the USA and say Oh they didn't say that, because they meant something else
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
He's clearly referring to the name of the league and mis-spoke. No he's not saying "the great Negro" at its basics, he's referring to the Negro League which was literally its name.
But what does he actually SAY. I don't want your idle speculation, just repeat what he actually SAYS
And what he actually SAYS is "Negro Leagues".
Do you, or do you not, agree that Joe Biden says "the great Negro" in those words, in that order?
From the quote you quoted I agree he says those words then immediately corrects himself.
Its clear he's giving a compliment to a great player from the Negro League. He's not trying to offend anyone.
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
He's clearly referring to the name of the league and mis-spoke. No he's not saying "the great Negro" at its basics, he's referring to the Negro League which was literally its name.
But what does he actually SAY. I don't want your idle speculation, just repeat what he actually SAYS
And what he actually SAYS is "Negro Leagues".
Do you, or do you not, agree that Joe Biden says "the great Negro" in those words, in that order?
From the quote you quoted I agree he says those words then immediately corrects himself.
Its clear he's giving a compliment to a great player from the Negro League. He's not trying to offend anyone.
Then we have no argument. He said it, we all heard it.
What he actually *meant* we can only surmise, with our own prejudices and assumptions at work. I hope the next person who offends the Woke is given as much latitude as Sleepy Joe Biden
PB people, if you ever want to understand the term "gaslighting" then this is the clearest example I have ever seen
The president called a guy "the great Negro"
But apparently he didn't, because
"The president obviously began to say “Great Negro League pitcher,” but then paused and shifted to saying “at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues,” which was, in fact, the name of the league that Black players formed when they were shut out of Major League Baseball. That this needs to be explained is beyond absurd."
To prove this assertion, they link to the video where Biden says "the great negro", they are thus trying to deny what is obviously true, and in front of your face, and in the most overt way, such that you might get confused, and doubt your own senses. THAT is gaslighting
I wanted to believe, for the laughs, that Joe's long hidden inner-racist was now sleepy talking, but I'm pretty sure he'd just realised halfway through that he needed to explain his use of 'negro' and did it in an exceedingly clumsy way.
Yes, but he says "the great negro". He does. He just DOES.
FFS
All else is supposition
Yes. He says "The great negro at the time pitcher in the Negro League"
Which only makes any sense if it's with the explanation offered.
Do you really think he meant anything else?
I'm glad you quoted it in full
He says
"the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in he Negro League"
THE GREAT NEGRO
There. We all agree. He said. Them three words in that order. Right there
So next time some poor idiot on Twitter is being cancelled for using "the wrong words" we can all refer to the President of the USA and say Oh they didn't say that, because they meant something else
If Biden had put that word for word in a tweet, then you'd have a better point.
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
He's clearly referring to the name of the league and mis-spoke. No he's not saying "the great Negro" at its basics, he's referring to the Negro League which was literally its name.
But what does he actually SAY. I don't want your idle speculation, just repeat what he actually SAYS
And what he actually SAYS is "Negro Leagues".
Do you, or do you not, agree that Joe Biden says "the great Negro" in those words, in that order?
From the quote you quoted I agree he says those words then immediately corrects himself.
Its clear he's giving a compliment to a great player from the Negro League. He's not trying to offend anyone.
Then we have no argument. He said it, we all heard it.
What he actually *meant* we can only surmise, with our own prejudices and assumptions at work. I hope the next person who offends the Woke is given as much latitude as Sleepy Joe Biden
We don't need to surmise what he said, you quoted it. He meant Negro League, he said it.
I'm not sure what this argument is even about. Leon's right he did say 'the great negro' and said he doesn't think Biden is a secret clansman, and the others are right Biden clearly misspoke (the sentence structure doesn't work otherwise) and it was in a context which explains that. It's not an argument about whether he is a racist, but whether he stumbled over his words in a way which, for many, would be condemned without pity because it involved race.
It's a gaffe, and will be good fodder for those who dislike him on left and right, but nothing more than that.
Has nobody spotted that yesterday had the highest number of first doses of Vaccine since July.
(And highest number of second doses since Sept).
I did. But I was told it is "data catch up" by Max, who normally knows his Covid onions
It's still good because what we thought were poor numbers was just an underreporting error. The booster shots look positively smashing at the moment. Should hit 3m per week next week.
I read that the Netherlands (I think) has only just started boostering over 80s. Madness
Europe hasn't really learned from out failures at all. I read that they aren't planning to start over 60s boosters until Jan 2020, it's not as though they don't have the supply either. Europe is sitting on something like 200m Pfizer doses for it's booster programme.
Hmm.. you're making the classic mistake of thinking that 'Europe' acts as though it were a single country. Ireland, France, Denmark, and Spain are far ahead of the UK in jab take-up despite the botched start, and France in particular is going great guns on the boosters. On the other hand, Germany, Switzerland and Austria are still miles behind the UK, and it's beginning to show in their deaths and hospitalisation figures. Further east it's disastrous.
The Netherlands is about the same as us in total take up, and you can see the protection in the figures. Like us, though, they've got too many cases for comfort:
France is not "going great guns on the boosters". They're only able to bring in the vaccine pass requirement for over 65s from December 15th - more than a month away. They are seriously behind the UK.
They most certainly are not miles behind the UK. We have 13.6% of over-12s completely unvaxxed (i.e. not even the first dose), they are on 8.4%.
Of course, they started later, so applying the same 6-month period that we apply, it's appropriate that the number of triple-jabbed is currently lower than ours. The point is, though, that they are getting on with it, and they are going to enforce it seriously. I fully expect them to get a higher triple-jab rate than us quite quickly.
They've done better in absolute total jabs because they have introduced rigorous, universal vaxports. I regret that the UK did not do the same, but it was an economic and libertarian choice, that we consciously made - supported by many on here
The only way you can drive up vax rates to 85%+ is with mandatory vaxports everywhere
The truly alarming figures in that FT twitter thread is the German-speaking non vaxed proportion of over 12s.
22-25%!! That's a huge reservoir of potential victims. That's nearly 20 million people in Germany
Germany really could be the latest victim of the golden rule of covid hubris. The share of positive tests they have at the moment suggests the true level of current cases is quite dramatic.
I posted the test positivity numbers yesterday, and Germany didn't stand out. It was nowhere near Ireland (14%) or some of South America or Eastern Europe (40+%)
Where are you getting your positivity numbers from?
Germany hasn't handled coronavirus well but I'd like to know what people mean when they talk about German "covid hubris"?
Indeed. I was in Germany both 2020 and for longer this year, and I haven’t been anywhere else that was taking the precautions so seriously (admittedly I didn’t travel into the former GDR). If Germany has an autumn crisis, the lesson I draw is that the latest variants are sufficiently contagious that we might as well give up on mask wearing altogether, since it clearly makes negligible difference.
PB people, if you ever want to understand the term "gaslighting" then this is the clearest example I have ever seen
The president called a guy "the great Negro"
But apparently he didn't, because
"The president obviously began to say “Great Negro League pitcher,” but then paused and shifted to saying “at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues,” which was, in fact, the name of the league that Black players formed when they were shut out of Major League Baseball. That this needs to be explained is beyond absurd."
To prove this assertion, they link to the video where Biden says "the great negro", they are thus trying to deny what is obviously true, and in front of your face, and in the most overt way, such that you might get confused, and doubt your own senses. THAT is gaslighting
I wanted to believe, for the laughs, that Joe's long hidden inner-racist was now sleepy talking, but I'm pretty sure he'd just realised halfway through that he needed to explain his use of 'negro' and did it in an exceedingly clumsy way.
Yes, but he says "the great negro". He does. He just DOES.
FFS
All else is supposition
Yes. He says "The great negro at the time pitcher in the Negro League"
Which only makes any sense if it's with the explanation offered.
Do you really think he meant anything else?
I'm glad you quoted it in full
He says
"the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in he Negro League"
THE GREAT NEGRO
There. We all agree. He said. Them three words in that order. Right there
So next time some poor idiot on Twitter is being cancelled for using "the wrong words" we can all refer to the President of the USA and say Oh they didn't say that, because they meant something else
FFS
I've just realised that YOU capitalised the N in your first 'negro'.
If Biden was calling him 'the great negro' you wouldn't capitalise the N. It's not a proper fucking noun.
The Negro League IS though. Which is why it's capitalised.
YOU KNOW he was talking about the Negro League, which is why YOU capitalised the N in a non-proper noun 'negro'.
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
He's clearly referring to the name of the league and mis-spoke. No he's not saying "the great Negro" at its basics, he's referring to the Negro League which was literally its name.
But what does he actually SAY. I don't want your idle speculation, just repeat what he actually SAYS
And what he actually SAYS is "Negro Leagues".
Do you, or do you not, agree that Joe Biden says "the great Negro" in those words, in that order?
From the quote you quoted I agree he says those words then immediately corrects himself.
Its clear he's giving a compliment to a great player from the Negro League. He's not trying to offend anyone.
Then we have no argument. He said it, we all heard it.
What he actually *meant* we can only surmise, with our own prejudices and assumptions at work. I hope the next person who offends the Woke is given as much latitude as Sleepy Joe Biden
We don't need to surmise what he said, you quoted it. He meant Negro League, he said it.
Actually, my honest surmisal - as someone who certainly doesn't hate Biden but thinks he is a fairly inept old man, and as someone who would have voted for him over the awful Trump - is that he meant to say "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues."
That's the most logical explanation of his stumbling syntax. But halfway through, in his foggy brain, he realised he was saying something politically incorrect, so he tried to rework it, but too late. You can see this on his face, I reckon. But I am just projecting - as are you. All we have are those bald three words that he SAID. "The great negro".
Biden is not a racist, probably. But he is a white male American of a certain age who grew up when racist opinions were widespread and the word "Negro" was actually considered POLITE compared to other words. It is understandable it might slip out.
He is of his own, long-gone era. And that is increasingly evident, as time goes by
Here's a new vector for the spread. "Covid: First UK case in pet dog confirmed by top vet" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59246304 Calls for doggy vaccines incoming.
Completely off topic (but in fairness I've already commented on the by-election), in watching foreign language stuff on Netflix one thing I find mildly interesting is what English words or expressions apparently don't exist in the native language, or for whatever reason they use the English instead. IIRC Borgen taught us that '15 minutes of fame' is not a native Danish idiom, and I was watching some polish language thing where 'project management' was in English.
PB people, if you ever want to understand the term "gaslighting" then this is the clearest example I have ever seen
The president called a guy "the great Negro"
But apparently he didn't, because
"The president obviously began to say “Great Negro League pitcher,” but then paused and shifted to saying “at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues,” which was, in fact, the name of the league that Black players formed when they were shut out of Major League Baseball. That this needs to be explained is beyond absurd."
To prove this assertion, they link to the video where Biden says "the great negro", they are thus trying to deny what is obviously true, and in front of your face, and in the most overt way, such that you might get confused, and doubt your own senses. THAT is gaslighting
I wanted to believe, for the laughs, that Joe's long hidden inner-racist was now sleepy talking, but I'm pretty sure he'd just realised halfway through that he needed to explain his use of 'negro' and did it in an exceedingly clumsy way.
Yes, but he says "the great negro". He does. He just DOES.
FFS
All else is supposition
Yes. He says "The great negro at the time pitcher in the Negro League"
Which only makes any sense if it's with the explanation offered.
Do you really think he meant anything else?
I'm glad you quoted it in full
He says
"the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in he Negro League"
THE GREAT NEGRO
There. We all agree. He said. Them three words in that order. Right there
So next time some poor idiot on Twitter is being cancelled for using "the wrong words" we can all refer to the President of the USA and say Oh they didn't say that, because they meant something else
FFS
I've just realised that YOU capitalised the N in your first 'negro'.
If Biden was calling him 'the great negro' you wouldn't capitalise the N. It's not a proper fucking noun.
The Negro League IS though. Which is why it's capitalised.
YOU KNOW he was talking about the Negro League, which is why YOU capitalised the N in a non-proper noun 'negro'.
I should have checked first. Negro IS a proper noun. Oops. Sorry @Leon !
PB people, if you ever want to understand the term "gaslighting" then this is the clearest example I have ever seen
The president called a guy "the great Negro"
But apparently he didn't, because
"The president obviously began to say “Great Negro League pitcher,” but then paused and shifted to saying “at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues,” which was, in fact, the name of the league that Black players formed when they were shut out of Major League Baseball. That this needs to be explained is beyond absurd."
To prove this assertion, they link to the video where Biden says "the great negro", they are thus trying to deny what is obviously true, and in front of your face, and in the most overt way, such that you might get confused, and doubt your own senses. THAT is gaslighting
I wanted to believe, for the laughs, that Joe's long hidden inner-racist was now sleepy talking, but I'm pretty sure he'd just realised halfway through that he needed to explain his use of 'negro' and did it in an exceedingly clumsy way.
Yes, but he says "the great negro". He does. He just DOES.
FFS
All else is supposition
Yes. He says "The great negro at the time pitcher in the Negro League"
Which only makes any sense if it's with the explanation offered.
Do you really think he meant anything else?
I'm glad you quoted it in full
He says
"the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in he Negro League"
THE GREAT NEGRO
There. We all agree. He said. Them three words in that order. Right there
So next time some poor idiot on Twitter is being cancelled for using "the wrong words" we can all refer to the President of the USA and say Oh they didn't say that, because they meant something else
FFS
I've just realised that YOU capitalised the N in your first 'negro'.
If Biden was calling him 'the great negro' you wouldn't capitalise the N. It's not a proper fucking noun.
The Negro League IS though. Which is why it's capitalised.
YOU KNOW he was talking about the Negro League, which is why YOU capitalised the N in a non-proper noun 'negro'.
I'm not sure what this argument is even about. Leon's right he did say 'the great negro' and said he doesn't think Biden is a secret clansman, and the others are right Biden clearly misspoke (the sentence structure doesn't work otherwise) and it was in a context which explains that. It's not an argument about whether he is a racist, but whether he stumbled over his words in a way which, for many, would be condemned without pity because it involved race.
It's a gaffe, and will be good fodder for those who dislike him on left and right, but nothing more than that.
I think in the world of the anti-woke there is a perception that the woke are trying to trap and pounce on any utterances that are out of line, so this looks like blatant hypocrisy that should be challenged. For the rest of us, intent matters, and it is far far more likely that he misspoke, so it becomes a non issue.
I'm not sure what this argument is even about. Leon's right he did say 'the great negro' and said he doesn't think Biden is a secret clansman, and the others are right Biden clearly misspoke (the sentence structure doesn't work otherwise) and it was in a context which explains that. It's not an argument about whether he is a racist, but whether he stumbled over his words in a way which, for many, would be condemned without pity because it involved race.
It's a gaffe, and will be good fodder for those who dislike him on left and right, but nothing more than that.
I think in the world of the anti-woke there is a perception that the woke are trying to trap and pounce on any utterances that are out of line, so this looks like blatant hypocrisy that should be challenged. For the rest of us, intent matters, and it is far far more likely that he misspoke, so it becomes a non issue.
We live in different worlds nowadays.
And there, my friends, is Thoughtcrime
It doesn't matter what you actually say, it's what We know you REALLY MEANT when you said it. So we always decide, on the Left, because we are correct and superior
The woke stuff and the associated gaslighting is fundamentally a reaction to Brexit and Trump; it is very hard to see how the right can respond except by way of a greater form of madness.
Here's a new vector for the spread. "Covid: First UK case in pet dog confirmed by top vet" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59246304 Calls for doggy vaccines incoming.
That dogs can carry (and more importantly spread) Covid has been suspected for some time. Indeed, Covid has been shown to infect over 100 mammalian species, so wiping it out from humans is highly unlikely to wipe it out from the planet, because we'll be able to get it from gerbils, dogs, etc.
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
He's clearly referring to the name of the league and mis-spoke. No he's not saying "the great Negro" at its basics, he's referring to the Negro League which was literally its name.
But what does he actually SAY. I don't want your idle speculation, just repeat what he actually SAYS
And what he actually SAYS is "Negro Leagues".
Do you, or do you not, agree that Joe Biden says "the great Negro" in those words, in that order?
From the quote you quoted I agree he says those words then immediately corrects himself.
Its clear he's giving a compliment to a great player from the Negro League. He's not trying to offend anyone.
Then we have no argument. He said it, we all heard it.
What he actually *meant* we can only surmise, with our own prejudices and assumptions at work. I hope the next person who offends the Woke is given as much latitude as Sleepy Joe Biden
Tbh I'm enjoying his presidency whilst it lasts, Biden is likely the last non woke Democrat president.
From here on out it's the screeching woke left vs Trumpism.
All bar one do put Starmer 20 points ahead of the point before he became leader, and that was 19 points. I am not particularly a fan, but quite some swing.
I've recently backed Starmer to be next PM in a modest way. 5ish BF. If anything though he's been drifting.I don't really get why as surely Boris is in more trouble than he's ever been. Is there some view that Labour would use the opportunity of any Tory leadership change to switch too?
I'd really like to find a bet that focussed on the LD/Green race - perhaps "3rd party seatwise"? Would you 1000 on either the Tories or Labour? (Normally probably yes, but currently - not so sure)
The trouble with the next Prime Minister market is you need to factor in that Boris might be replaced before the next election, in which case the next Prime Minister will be a Conservative and not Keir Starmer. We've seen this when going from Cameron to May and from May to Boris. The worse the polls get for the blue team, the more likely it is that Boris will walk, and the more likely it is that backbenchers will send in their letters.
That's the bit I love.
Starmer drifting must point to it being far worse for Boris than I envisioned.
I was a bit wrong-footed by Maggie's departure. I suspect I'll not spot the signs again.
Presumably Sunak's odds are tightening?
No - basically unchanged.
PS. Farooq, I need to offer you an apology. Some weeks ago I concluded that you were some sort of a Chinese infiltrator or other. I'm pretty sure I was wrong though. I'm not sure you're quite what you seem, but hey, who is!
Is that what you thought? Ha, interesting to know. I assure you I'm sincere in my beliefs, and if anyone cares to have a summary of them (I feel my audience at this point wouldn't fill a phone box), it's that we do best as a country when we don't go lurching suddenly off on some mad scheme, when we look after each other, when we preserve our freedoms and stick up for those in the world who want to preserve and win their own. But not at any old price: sometimes we're best to leave well alone. Capitalism is best but turns sour with large wealth inequalities, and we need the odd dose of social democracy to keep us honest. I have fairly wide parameters to what I think acceptable governance looks like, and I think probably 500+ of our MPs are good people. Boris Johnson isn't one of them, and probably has never been a good person in all his wretched life. He's a selfish, dangerous bastard, but even he gets some things right.
I don't have a lot of interest in China. I know their sabre rattling of Taiwan is wrong and their human rights is abysmal, but I also think their leadership has a streak of civilisation through it and they have a path to a better place without us throwing too much vinegar around. I'm much more worried by Russia's leadership, but all this comes from a fairly selfish point of view. I don't think China is really out to deliberately make my life worse, I'm just glad I don't live there. Putin, on the other hand, wants all of us to suffer. We need to watch China, but on Putin, we need to act.
If you know of anyone who is willing to pay for me to spout off on any of the above, I'll gladly take the cash. As long as I'm paid to give my own opinion and not someone else's, I'll happily be an infiltrator.
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Some terms are only ok in very specific configurations according to the nebulous rules of society. Colored People being a famous example. In this case even though the league can hardly be otherwise referred to, saying 'the great negro' counts as a gaffe as it sounds awkward as hell, even though the context for such a reference seems pretty clear.
Also, it wouldn't matter if the Woke weren't so intensely keen on getting people cancelled and ruined for just one verbal gaffe. Here is the American President making an enormous racist gaffe, live on TV, and suddenly it doesn't really matter, or, even worse, it doesn't matter because "he didn't actually say it, even tho we can all see and hear that he actually did say it."
Gaslights, gaslights, everywhere
Hang on, aren't you trying to cancel him, while the Woke aren't that bothered?
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
He's clearly referring to the name of the league and mis-spoke. No he's not saying "the great Negro" at its basics, he's referring to the Negro League which was literally its name.
But what does he actually SAY. I don't want your idle speculation, just repeat what he actually SAYS
And what he actually SAYS is "Negro Leagues".
Do you, or do you not, agree that Joe Biden says "the great Negro" in those words, in that order?
From the quote you quoted I agree he says those words then immediately corrects himself.
Its clear he's giving a compliment to a great player from the Negro League. He's not trying to offend anyone.
Then we have no argument. He said it, we all heard it.
What he actually *meant* we can only surmise, with our own prejudices and assumptions at work. I hope the next person who offends the Woke is given as much latitude as Sleepy Joe Biden
Tbh I'm enjoying his presidency whilst it lasts, Biden is likely the last non woke Democrat president.
From here on out it's the screeching woke left vs Trumpism.
Unless they are actually represented by Trump, the Republicans will win that contest, for the foreseeable future. As long as the large majority of Americans are "white" they will not accept an ideology that says Whiteness is inherently evil. Unsurprisingly
Given that RKI update into the early hours (or they did yesterday) this could hit 60,000?
50,196 is the figure for the 10th of November. It's not going to be updated. At some point tomorrow morning we will get the figures for the 11th of November.
The woke stuff and the associated gaslighting is fundamentally a reaction to Brexit and Trump; it is very hard to see how the right can respond except by way of a greater form of madness.
Well we see plenty of that from the Wokefinder Inquisition!
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Some terms are only ok in very specific configurations according to the nebulous rules of society. Colored People being a famous example. In this case even though the league can hardly be otherwise referred to, saying 'the great negro' counts as a gaffe as it sounds awkward as hell, even though the context for such a reference seems pretty clear.
Also, it wouldn't matter if the Woke weren't so intensely keen on getting people cancelled and ruined for just one verbal gaffe. Here is the American President making an enormous racist gaffe, live on TV, and suddenly it doesn't really matter, or, even worse, it doesn't matter because "he didn't actually say it, even tho we can all see and hear that he actually did say it."
Gaslights, gaslights, everywhere
Hang on, aren't you trying to cancel him, while the Woke aren't that bothered?
No, I'm not. See my comments passim. I would NOT cancel him. He's just a confused old man
That is the difference between us. You guys cancel. We account for the human condition, the crooked timber of humanity, because we are intrinsically nicer than you
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
He's clearly referring to the name of the league and mis-spoke. No he's not saying "the great Negro" at its basics, he's referring to the Negro League which was literally its name.
But what does he actually SAY. I don't want your idle speculation, just repeat what he actually SAYS
And what he actually SAYS is "Negro Leagues".
Do you, or do you not, agree that Joe Biden says "the great Negro" in those words, in that order?
From the quote you quoted I agree he says those words then immediately corrects himself.
Its clear he's giving a compliment to a great player from the Negro League. He's not trying to offend anyone.
Then we have no argument. He said it, we all heard it.
What he actually *meant* we can only surmise, with our own prejudices and assumptions at work. I hope the next person who offends the Woke is given as much latitude as Sleepy Joe Biden
Tbh I'm enjoying his presidency whilst it lasts, Biden is likely the last non woke Democrat president.
From here on out it's the screeching woke left vs Trumpism.
Unless they are actually represented by Trump, the Republicans will win that contest, for the foreseeable future. As long as the large majority of Americans are "white" they will not accept an ideology that says Whiteness is inherently evil. Unsurprisingly
Plenty of Blacks and Hispanics are social conservatives and traditional in values too and do not hate their own country.
A white student or social sciences professor or trial lawyer is more likely to be ultra woke than a married, socially conservative Black or Hispanic
Given that RKI update into the early hours (or they did yesterday) this could hit 60,000?
50,196 is the figure for the 10th of November. It's not going to be updated. At some point tomorrow morning we will get the figures for the 11th of November.
Yesterday you claimed the figure for yesterday was "39,000". You are clueless
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Some terms are only ok in very specific configurations according to the nebulous rules of society. Colored People being a famous example. In this case even though the league can hardly be otherwise referred to, saying 'the great negro' counts as a gaffe as it sounds awkward as hell, even though the context for such a reference seems pretty clear.
Also, it wouldn't matter if the Woke weren't so intensely keen on getting people cancelled and ruined for just one verbal gaffe. Here is the American President making an enormous racist gaffe, live on TV, and suddenly it doesn't really matter, or, even worse, it doesn't matter because "he didn't actually say it, even tho we can all see and hear that he actually did say it."
Gaslights, gaslights, everywhere
Hang on, aren't you trying to cancel him, while the Woke aren't that bothered?
No, I'm not. See my comments passim. I would NOT cancel him. He's just a confused old man
That is the difference between us. You guys cancel. We account for the human condition, the crooked timber of humanity, because we are intrinsically nicer than you
I'd have the same opinion of Trump having said the exact same thing as I do of Biden having said it.
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Some terms are only ok in very specific configurations according to the nebulous rules of society. Colored People being a famous example. In this case even though the league can hardly be otherwise referred to, saying 'the great negro' counts as a gaffe as it sounds awkward as hell, even though the context for such a reference seems pretty clear.
Also, it wouldn't matter if the Woke weren't so intensely keen on getting people cancelled and ruined for just one verbal gaffe. Here is the American President making an enormous racist gaffe, live on TV, and suddenly it doesn't really matter, or, even worse, it doesn't matter because "he didn't actually say it, even tho we can all see and hear that he actually did say it."
Gaslights, gaslights, everywhere
Hang on, aren't you trying to cancel him, while the Woke aren't that bothered?
No, I'm not. See my comments passim. I would NOT cancel him. He's just a confused old man
That is the difference between us. You guys cancel. We account for the human condition, the crooked timber of humanity, because we are intrinsically nicer than you
And yet which one of you and Foxy do you think comes across as the total arsehole on here?
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Some terms are only ok in very specific configurations according to the nebulous rules of society. Colored People being a famous example. In this case even though the league can hardly be otherwise referred to, saying 'the great negro' counts as a gaffe as it sounds awkward as hell, even though the context for such a reference seems pretty clear.
Also, it wouldn't matter if the Woke weren't so intensely keen on getting people cancelled and ruined for just one verbal gaffe. Here is the American President making an enormous racist gaffe, live on TV, and suddenly it doesn't really matter, or, even worse, it doesn't matter because "he didn't actually say it, even tho we can all see and hear that he actually did say it."
Gaslights, gaslights, everywhere
Hang on, aren't you trying to cancel him, while the Woke aren't that bothered?
No, I'm not. See my comments passim. I would NOT cancel him. He's just a confused old man
That is the difference between us. You guys cancel. We account for the human condition, the crooked timber of humanity, because we are intrinsically nicer than you
So when you say "you guys" cancel, who do you mean?. I haven't called for or supported anyone being cancelled. Neither does it spring to mind any one else amongst regular posters there.
You just seem to spout wild accusations from your fertile imagination inspired by the loonies corners of Twitter. It ain't the real world.
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Some terms are only ok in very specific configurations according to the nebulous rules of society. Colored People being a famous example. In this case even though the league can hardly be otherwise referred to, saying 'the great negro' counts as a gaffe as it sounds awkward as hell, even though the context for such a reference seems pretty clear.
Also, it wouldn't matter if the Woke weren't so intensely keen on getting people cancelled and ruined for just one verbal gaffe. Here is the American President making an enormous racist gaffe, live on TV, and suddenly it doesn't really matter, or, even worse, it doesn't matter because "he didn't actually say it, even tho we can all see and hear that he actually did say it."
Gaslights, gaslights, everywhere
Hang on, aren't you trying to cancel him, while the Woke aren't that bothered?
No, I'm not. See my comments passim. I would NOT cancel him. He's just a confused old man
That is the difference between us. You guys cancel. We account for the human condition, the crooked timber of humanity, because we are intrinsically nicer than you
And yet which one of you and Foxy do you think comes across as the total arsehole on here?
All bar one do put Starmer 20 points ahead of the point before he became leader, and that was 19 points. I am not particularly a fan, but quite some swing.
I've recently backed Starmer to be next PM in a modest way. 5ish BF. If anything though he's been drifting.I don't really get why as surely Boris is in more trouble than he's ever been. Is there some view that Labour would use the opportunity of any Tory leadership change to switch too?
I'd really like to find a bet that focussed on the LD/Green race - perhaps "3rd party seatwise"? Would you 1000 on either the Tories or Labour? (Normally probably yes, but currently - not so sure)
The trouble with the next Prime Minister market is you need to factor in that Boris might be replaced before the next election, in which case the next Prime Minister will be a Conservative and not Keir Starmer. We've seen this when going from Cameron to May and from May to Boris. The worse the polls get for the blue team, the more likely it is that Boris will walk, and the more likely it is that backbenchers will send in their letters.
That's the bit I love.
Starmer drifting must point to it being far worse for Boris than I envisioned.
I was a bit wrong-footed by Maggie's departure. I suspect I'll not spot the signs again.
Presumably Sunak's odds are tightening?
No - basically unchanged.
PS. Farooq, I need to offer you an apology. Some weeks ago I concluded that you were some sort of a Chinese infiltrator or other. I'm pretty sure I was wrong though. I'm not sure you're quite what you seem, but hey, who is!
Is that what you thought? Ha, interesting to know. I assure you I'm sincere in my beliefs, and if anyone cares to have a summary of them (I feel my audience at this point wouldn't fill a phone box), it's that we do best as a country when we don't go lurching suddenly off on some mad scheme, when we look after each other, when we preserve our freedoms and stick up for those in the world who want to preserve and win their own. But not at any old price: sometimes we're best to leave well alone. Capitalism is best but turns sour with large wealth inequalities, and we need the odd dose of social democracy to keep us honest. I have fairly wide parameters to what I think acceptable governance looks like, and I think probably 500+ of our MPs are good people. Boris Johnson isn't one of them, and probably has never been a good person in all his wretched life. He's a selfish, dangerous bastard, but even he gets some things right.
I don't have a lot of interest in China. I know their sabre rattling of Taiwan is wrong and their human rights is abysmal, but I also think their leadership has a streak of civilisation through it and they have a path to a better place without us throwing too much vinegar around. I'm much more worried by Russia's leadership, but all this comes from a fairly selfish point of view. I don't think China is really out to deliberately make my life worse, I'm just glad I don't live there. Putin, on the other hand, wants all of us to suffer. We need to watch China, but on Putin, we need to act.
If you know of anyone who is willing to pay for me to spout off on any of the above, I'll gladly take the cash. As long as I'm paid to give my own opinion and not someone else's, I'll happily be an infiltrator.
Very interesting and I agree largely with you but I do not downplay China
It may be a result of our travels to Asia, Australia and New Zealand in the years our eldest son lived in Christchurch 2003 - 2015 and it does provide a different view of the world and that Europe, while important, is not the whole story
On Putin I am genuinely interested in what steps we should take or as you say act
Given that RKI update into the early hours (or they did yesterday) this could hit 60,000?
50,196 is the figure for the 10th of November. It's not going to be updated. At some point tomorrow morning we will get the figures for the 11th of November.
Yesterday you claimed the figure for yesterday was "39,000". You are clueless
No I claimed correctly that the figure for 9th of November was 39000. You falsely claimed that the figure for I don't know which day was 45k, which it wasn't (because no day has had that number). Moron.
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Some terms are only ok in very specific configurations according to the nebulous rules of society. Colored People being a famous example. In this case even though the league can hardly be otherwise referred to, saying 'the great negro' counts as a gaffe as it sounds awkward as hell, even though the context for such a reference seems pretty clear.
Also, it wouldn't matter if the Woke weren't so intensely keen on getting people cancelled and ruined for just one verbal gaffe. Here is the American President making an enormous racist gaffe, live on TV, and suddenly it doesn't really matter, or, even worse, it doesn't matter because "he didn't actually say it, even tho we can all see and hear that he actually did say it."
Gaslights, gaslights, everywhere
Hang on, aren't you trying to cancel him, while the Woke aren't that bothered?
No, I'm not. See my comments passim. I would NOT cancel him. He's just a confused old man
That is the difference between us. You guys cancel. We account for the human condition, the crooked timber of humanity, because we are intrinsically nicer than you
So when you say "you guys" cancel, who do you mean?. I haven't called for or supported anyone being cancelled. Neither does it spring to mind any one else amongst regular posters there.
You just seem to spout wild accusations from your fertile imagination inspired by the loonies corners of Twitter. It ain't the real world.
TBF you are at the nicer, Christian end of the Wokeness spectrum, however prissy and purse lipped. But you're still on the spectrum. There is a Canceller lurking in your soul. I see it
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Some terms are only ok in very specific configurations according to the nebulous rules of society. Colored People being a famous example. In this case even though the league can hardly be otherwise referred to, saying 'the great negro' counts as a gaffe as it sounds awkward as hell, even though the context for such a reference seems pretty clear.
Also, it wouldn't matter if the Woke weren't so intensely keen on getting people cancelled and ruined for just one verbal gaffe. Here is the American President making an enormous racist gaffe, live on TV, and suddenly it doesn't really matter, or, even worse, it doesn't matter because "he didn't actually say it, even tho we can all see and hear that he actually did say it."
Gaslights, gaslights, everywhere
Hang on, aren't you trying to cancel him, while the Woke aren't that bothered?
No, I'm not. See my comments passim. I would NOT cancel him. He's just a confused old man
That is the difference between us. You guys cancel. We account for the human condition, the crooked timber of humanity, because we are intrinsically nicer than you
And yet which one of you and Foxy do you think comes across as the total arsehole on here?
You?
I'm not claiming to be "nicer" than anyone though am I you arsehole.
All bar one do put Starmer 20 points ahead of the point before he became leader, and that was 19 points. I am not particularly a fan, but quite some swing.
I've recently backed Starmer to be next PM in a modest way. 5ish BF. If anything though he's been drifting.I don't really get why as surely Boris is in more trouble than he's ever been. Is there some view that Labour would use the opportunity of any Tory leadership change to switch too?
I'd really like to find a bet that focussed on the LD/Green race - perhaps "3rd party seatwise"? Would you 1000 on either the Tories or Labour? (Normally probably yes, but currently - not so sure)
The trouble with the next Prime Minister market is you need to factor in that Boris might be replaced before the next election, in which case the next Prime Minister will be a Conservative and not Keir Starmer. We've seen this when going from Cameron to May and from May to Boris. The worse the polls get for the blue team, the more likely it is that Boris will walk, and the more likely it is that backbenchers will send in their letters.
That's the bit I love.
Starmer drifting must point to it being far worse for Boris than I envisioned.
I was a bit wrong-footed by Maggie's departure. I suspect I'll not spot the signs again.
Presumably Sunak's odds are tightening?
No - basically unchanged.
PS. Farooq, I need to offer you an apology. Some weeks ago I concluded that you were some sort of a Chinese infiltrator or other. I'm pretty sure I was wrong though. I'm not sure you're quite what you seem, but hey, who is!
Is that what you thought? Ha, interesting to know. I assure you I'm sincere in my beliefs, and if anyone cares to have a summary of them (I feel my audience at this point wouldn't fill a phone box), it's that we do best as a country when we don't go lurching suddenly off on some mad scheme, when we look after each other, when we preserve our freedoms and stick up for those in the world who want to preserve and win their own. But not at any old price: sometimes we're best to leave well alone. Capitalism is best but turns sour with large wealth inequalities, and we need the odd dose of social democracy to keep us honest. I have fairly wide parameters to what I think acceptable governance looks like, and I think probably 500+ of our MPs are good people. Boris Johnson isn't one of them, and probably has never been a good person in all his wretched life. He's a selfish, dangerous bastard, but even he gets some things right.
I don't have a lot of interest in China. I know their sabre rattling of Taiwan is wrong and their human rights is abysmal, but I also think their leadership has a streak of civilisation through it and they have a path to a better place without us throwing too much vinegar around. I'm much more worried by Russia's leadership, but all this comes from a fairly selfish point of view. I don't think China is really out to deliberately make my life worse, I'm just glad I don't live there. Putin, on the other hand, wants all of us to suffer. We need to watch China, but on Putin, we need to act.
If you know of anyone who is willing to pay for me to spout off on any of the above, I'll gladly take the cash. As long as I'm paid to give my own opinion and not someone else's, I'll happily be an infiltrator.
I thought Putin was the new hero of the non woke ultra right?
If the 20th century was defined by the global battle between socialism and capitalism, perhaps the 21st century will be defined by the battle between wokeist radical progressives and traditionalist conservatives and nationalists?
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
He's clearly referring to the name of the league and mis-spoke. No he's not saying "the great Negro" at its basics, he's referring to the Negro League which was literally its name.
But what does he actually SAY. I don't want your idle speculation, just repeat what he actually SAYS
And what he actually SAYS is "Negro Leagues".
Do you, or do you not, agree that Joe Biden says "the great Negro" in those words, in that order?
From the quote you quoted I agree he says those words then immediately corrects himself.
Its clear he's giving a compliment to a great player from the Negro League. He's not trying to offend anyone.
Then we have no argument. He said it, we all heard it.
What he actually *meant* we can only surmise, with our own prejudices and assumptions at work. I hope the next person who offends the Woke is given as much latitude as Sleepy Joe Biden
Tbh I'm enjoying his presidency whilst it lasts, Biden is likely the last non woke Democrat president.
From here on out it's the screeching woke left vs Trumpism.
Unless they are actually represented by Trump, the Republicans will win that contest, for the foreseeable future. As long as the large majority of Americans are "white" they will not accept an ideology that says Whiteness is inherently evil. Unsurprisingly
Plenty of Blacks and Hispanics are social conservatives and traditional in values too and do not hate their own country.
A white student or social sciences professor or trial lawyer is more likely to be ultra woke than a married, socially conservative Black or Hispanic
I take your point. But what does married have to do with it? Plenty of social Conservatives are on their third or more marriage.
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Some terms are only ok in very specific configurations according to the nebulous rules of society. Colored People being a famous example. In this case even though the league can hardly be otherwise referred to, saying 'the great negro' counts as a gaffe as it sounds awkward as hell, even though the context for such a reference seems pretty clear.
Also, it wouldn't matter if the Woke weren't so intensely keen on getting people cancelled and ruined for just one verbal gaffe. Here is the American President making an enormous racist gaffe, live on TV, and suddenly it doesn't really matter, or, even worse, it doesn't matter because "he didn't actually say it, even tho we can all see and hear that he actually did say it."
Gaslights, gaslights, everywhere
Hang on, aren't you trying to cancel him, while the Woke aren't that bothered?
No, I'm not. See my comments passim. I would NOT cancel him. He's just a confused old man
That is the difference between us. You guys cancel. We account for the human condition, the crooked timber of humanity, because we are intrinsically nicer than you
And yet which one of you and Foxy do you think comes across as the total arsehole on here?
Given that RKI update into the early hours (or they did yesterday) this could hit 60,000?
50,196 is the figure for the 10th of November. It's not going to be updated. At some point tomorrow morning we will get the figures for the 11th of November.
Yesterday you claimed the figure for yesterday was "39,000". You are clueless
He's not wrong though. 50,196 is the Wednesday number.
I haven't seen the Thursday number. My guess is that it's going to be in the high 40s.
Given that RKI update into the early hours (or they did yesterday) this could hit 60,000?
50,196 is the figure for the 10th of November. It's not going to be updated. At some point tomorrow morning we will get the figures for the 11th of November.
Yesterday you claimed the figure for yesterday was "39,000". You are clueless
No I claimed correctly that the figure for 9th of November was 39000. You falsely claimed that the figure for I don't know which day was 45k, which it wasn't (because no day has had that number). Moron.
Here you go. You said
"50,196 is the figure for the 10th of November. It's not going to be updated. At some point tomorrow morning we will get the figures for the 11th of November"
So. Also. 50.196 is the figure for the 10th November. Is it? Really?
Let's check.... ooh, the Robert Koch Institute? Let's check them?
Ah.
"Coronavirus Disease. Situation Report by the RKI Institute for Germany, 11/11/2021, Current Status For Germany
All bar one do put Starmer 20 points ahead of the point before he became leader, and that was 19 points. I am not particularly a fan, but quite some swing.
I've recently backed Starmer to be next PM in a modest way. 5ish BF. If anything though he's been drifting.I don't really get why as surely Boris is in more trouble than he's ever been. Is there some view that Labour would use the opportunity of any Tory leadership change to switch too?
I'd really like to find a bet that focussed on the LD/Green race - perhaps "3rd party seatwise"? Would you 1000 on either the Tories or Labour? (Normally probably yes, but currently - not so sure)
The trouble with the next Prime Minister market is you need to factor in that Boris might be replaced before the next election, in which case the next Prime Minister will be a Conservative and not Keir Starmer. We've seen this when going from Cameron to May and from May to Boris. The worse the polls get for the blue team, the more likely it is that Boris will walk, and the more likely it is that backbenchers will send in their letters.
That's the bit I love.
Starmer drifting must point to it being far worse for Boris than I envisioned.
I was a bit wrong-footed by Maggie's departure. I suspect I'll not spot the signs again.
Presumably Sunak's odds are tightening?
No - basically unchanged.
PS. Farooq, I need to offer you an apology. Some weeks ago I concluded that you were some sort of a Chinese infiltrator or other. I'm pretty sure I was wrong though. I'm not sure you're quite what you seem, but hey, who is!
Is that what you thought? Ha, interesting to know. I assure you I'm sincere in my beliefs, and if anyone cares to have a summary of them (I feel my audience at this point wouldn't fill a phone box), it's that we do best as a country when we don't go lurching suddenly off on some mad scheme, when we look after each other, when we preserve our freedoms and stick up for those in the world who want to preserve and win their own. But not at any old price: sometimes we're best to leave well alone. Capitalism is best but turns sour with large wealth inequalities, and we need the odd dose of social democracy to keep us honest. I have fairly wide parameters to what I think acceptable governance looks like, and I think probably 500+ of our MPs are good people. Boris Johnson isn't one of them, and probably has never been a good person in all his wretched life. He's a selfish, dangerous bastard, but even he gets some things right.
I don't have a lot of interest in China. I know their sabre rattling of Taiwan is wrong and their human rights is abysmal, but I also think their leadership has a streak of civilisation through it and they have a path to a better place without us throwing too much vinegar around. I'm much more worried by Russia's leadership, but all this comes from a fairly selfish point of view. I don't think China is really out to deliberately make my life worse, I'm just glad I don't live there. Putin, on the other hand, wants all of us to suffer. We need to watch China, but on Putin, we need to act.
If you know of anyone who is willing to pay for me to spout off on any of the above, I'll gladly take the cash. As long as I'm paid to give my own opinion and not someone else's, I'll happily be an infiltrator.
I thought Putin was the new hero of the non woke ultra right?
I think there are those who have dabbled, but I think most even on the fairly strident right can see that Putin is an arsehole. Nick Griffin would be in the Putin camp. Farage would be on the borderline.
Given that RKI update into the early hours (or they did yesterday) this could hit 60,000?
50,196 is the figure for the 10th of November. It's not going to be updated. At some point tomorrow morning we will get the figures for the 11th of November.
Yesterday you claimed the figure for yesterday was "39,000". You are clueless
He's not wrong though. 50,196 is the Wednesday number.
I haven't seen the Thursday number. My guess is that it's going to be in the high 40s.
No, but he got Wednesday entirely wrong. It was a record day. Today looks like 40-60k in Germany
Given that RKI update into the early hours (or they did yesterday) this could hit 60,000?
50,196 is the figure for the 10th of November. It's not going to be updated. At some point tomorrow morning we will get the figures for the 11th of November.
Yesterday you claimed the figure for yesterday was "39,000". You are clueless
He's not wrong though. 50,196 is the Wednesday number.
I haven't seen the Thursday number. My guess is that it's going to be in the high 40s.
No, but he got Wednesday entirely wrong. It was a record day. Today looks like 40-60k in Germany
That's a spread so wide, you could fit a bus in it.
Foxy, I think he's about to offer you some kind of conversion therapy to cure the malady of your soul. And you'd be a fool to pass. What price spiritual purity?
Given that RKI update into the early hours (or they did yesterday) this could hit 60,000?
50,196 is the figure for the 10th of November. It's not going to be updated. At some point tomorrow morning we will get the figures for the 11th of November.
Yesterday you claimed the figure for yesterday was "39,000". You are clueless
No I claimed correctly that the figure for 9th of November was 39000. You falsely claimed that the figure for I don't know which day was 45k, which it wasn't (because no day has had that number). Moron.
Here you go. You said
"50,196 is the figure for the 10th of November. It's not going to be updated. At some point tomorrow morning we will get the figures for the 11th of November"
So. Also. 50.196 is the figure for the 10th November. Is it? Really?
Let's check.... ooh, the Robert Koch Institute? Let's check them?
Ah.
"Coronavirus Disease. Situation Report by the RKI Institute for Germany, 11/11/2021, Current Status For Germany
Hang on. It was called the Negro League. Never heard any baseball fan, woke or out and out racist, call it owt else. In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
Yes, but he didn't say that, he said
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
He's clearly referring to the name of the league and mis-spoke. No he's not saying "the great Negro" at its basics, he's referring to the Negro League which was literally its name.
But what does he actually SAY. I don't want your idle speculation, just repeat what he actually SAYS
And what he actually SAYS is "Negro Leagues".
Do you, or do you not, agree that Joe Biden says "the great Negro" in those words, in that order?
From the quote you quoted I agree he says those words then immediately corrects himself.
Its clear he's giving a compliment to a great player from the Negro League. He's not trying to offend anyone.
Then we have no argument. He said it, we all heard it.
What he actually *meant* we can only surmise, with our own prejudices and assumptions at work. I hope the next person who offends the Woke is given as much latitude as Sleepy Joe Biden
Tbh I'm enjoying his presidency whilst it lasts, Biden is likely the last non woke Democrat president.
From here on out it's the screeching woke left vs Trumpism.
I don't think this analysis is quite right. One of the two has to eventually win, in a definitive way. If I had to choose between the two, I would choose Trump. Trump is bad, but the woke are more dangerous. What is quite telling is the one place that the woke make no progress at all is Russia and Eastern Europe. That is because, this is communism repeating itself, and it is quite telling watching educated people get sucked in to it, just as they were for much of the twentieth century.
Given that RKI update into the early hours (or they did yesterday) this could hit 60,000?
50,196 is the figure for the 10th of November. It's not going to be updated. At some point tomorrow morning we will get the figures for the 11th of November.
Yesterday you claimed the figure for yesterday was "39,000". You are clueless
No I claimed correctly that the figure for 9th of November was 39000. You falsely claimed that the figure for I don't know which day was 45k, which it wasn't (because no day has had that number). Moron.
Here you go. You said
"50,196 is the figure for the 10th of November. It's not going to be updated. At some point tomorrow morning we will get the figures for the 11th of November"
So. Also. 50.196 is the figure for the 10th November. Is it? Really?
Let's check.... ooh, the Robert Koch Institute? Let's check them?
Ah.
"Coronavirus Disease. Situation Report by the RKI Institute for Germany, 11/11/2021, Current Status For Germany
Given that RKI update into the early hours (or they did yesterday) this could hit 60,000?
50,196 is the figure for the 10th of November. It's not going to be updated. At some point tomorrow morning we will get the figures for the 11th of November.
Yesterday you claimed the figure for yesterday was "39,000". You are clueless
He's not wrong though. 50,196 is the Wednesday number.
I haven't seen the Thursday number. My guess is that it's going to be in the high 40s.
No, but he got Wednesday entirely wrong. It was a record day. Today looks like 40-60k in Germany
That's a spread so wide, you could fit a bus in it.
Do you want a Christian gentleman's wager of one shilling paid to the next homeless person?
Whoever is nearest wins, obvs, and has to pay the homeless person, thereby storing up treasures in heaven
Given that RKI update into the early hours (or they did yesterday) this could hit 60,000?
50,196 is the figure for the 10th of November. It's not going to be updated. At some point tomorrow morning we will get the figures for the 11th of November.
Yesterday you claimed the figure for yesterday was "39,000". You are clueless
No I claimed correctly that the figure for 9th of November was 39000. You falsely claimed that the figure for I don't know which day was 45k, which it wasn't (because no day has had that number). Moron.
Here you go. You said
"50,196 is the figure for the 10th of November. It's not going to be updated. At some point tomorrow morning we will get the figures for the 11th of November"
So. Also. 50.196 is the figure for the 10th November. Is it? Really?
Let's check.... ooh, the Robert Koch Institute? Let's check them?
Ah.
"Coronavirus Disease. Situation Report by the RKI Institute for Germany, 11/11/2021, Current Status For Germany
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The president called a guy "the great Negro"
But apparently he didn't, because
"The president obviously began to say “Great Negro League pitcher,” but then paused and shifted to saying “at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues,” which was, in fact, the name of the league that Black players formed when they were shut out of Major League Baseball. That this needs to be explained is beyond absurd."
To prove this assertion, they link to the video where Biden says "the great negro", they are thus trying to deny what is obviously true, and in front of your face, and in the most overt way, such that you might get confused, and doubt your own senses. THAT is gaslighting
https://www.mediaite.com/online/no-joe-biden-did-not-refer-to-satchel-paige-as-a-negro-during-veterans-day-speech/
Well they're alive and well and loitering outside Old Trafford......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_GcWE0s5X8
In fact it needs lifting to Major League status.
TBH I genuinely think he is just a confused old man with some antiquated terminology, and its very hard to forget words you grew up with. I don't remotely think he is a secret Klansman (tho he might have some ripe opinions lurking)
However the attempt to deny he didn't say what we can all hear him saying is insane and insulting. Also counter-productive
Tory MPs accuse Johnson of hypocrisy in crackdown on second jobs https://on.ft.com/3oo8z8T
"I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues, went on to become a great pitcher in the pros and Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson."
Taking out "at the time" - a place holder - he is saying "the great Negro pitcher in the Negro Leagues"
That's what he is saying
Or reduce it to basics, he says "the great Negro"
Jesus F Christ not on PB as well. It's right there.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/11/prepare-russian-invasion-ukraine-us-warns-european-allies/
Hence the GOP easily won the Virginia governorship and legislature with Trump no longer on the ballot when it became a de facto referendum on wokeism
Drip drip drip
Gaslights, gaslights, everywhere
The Negro League, however, remains the Negro League. It has no other name AFAIAA. And is frequently talked about as such.
First, Mediana - changes from July election:
GERB/SDS: 25.4% (+1.9)
We Continue the Change (PP): 17.3% (+17.3)
Socialists (BSP): 15.6% (+2.2)
There is Such a Nation (ITN): 12.2% (-11.9)
Movement of Rights and Freedoms (DPS): 10.6% (-0.1)
Democratic Bulgaria (DB): 9.7% (-2.9)
Stand Up Bulgaria! (IBG.NI): 4.2% (-0.8)
Revival (V): 3.1% (+0.1)
National Movement (VMRO): 2.2% (-0.9)
Then, Trend - ditto
GERB/SDS: 22.9% (-0.6)
Socialists (BSP): 15.1% (+1.7)
We Continue the Change (PP): 14.8% (+14.8)
There is Such a Nation (ITN): 12.8% (-11.3)
Movement of Rights and Freedoms (DPS): 10.3% (-0.4)
Democratic Bulgaria (DB): 9.1% (-3.5)
Revival (V): 3.6% (+0.6)
Stand Up Bulgaria! (IBG.NI): 3.3% (-1.7)
National Movement (VMRO): 2.2% (-0.9)
Electoral threshold is 4% so IBG-NI are on the brink but the leading six parties should all get in with the biggest change the index of PP at the expense of ITN. The latest Presidential poll shows Radev eighteen points ahead of the GERB supported Gerdzhikov (46-28). That won't be enough for an outright win on the first ballot but should be an easy second round win. The question is whether PP, the Socialists, DPS and DB can sink their differences and out together a coalition to exclude both GERB-SDS and ITN.
I wanted to believe, for the laughs, that Joe's long hidden inner-racist was now sleepy talking, but I'm pretty sure he'd just realised halfway through that he needed to explain his use of 'negro' and did it in an exceedingly clumsy way.
Biden is very gaffe prone but he is still a more electable Democrat than the left liberal urban AOC wing of their party
FFS
All else is supposition
“you must put your job as an MP 1st and you must devote yourself primarily and above all to your constituents”
-we calculate the PM himself has made over £4.3m from outside interests
https://www.ft.com/content/a256fc82-e036-469a-b489-be5b3f806deb
- Johnson also juggled job of being MP with editing Spectator mag from 2001 to 2005
- the @ft calculation of £4.3m doesn’t even include his first stint in Westminster from 2001-2008 because the register didn’t demand disclosure of precise payments then
With a sensible non-demented Democrat centrist candidate, it would be impossible. The Dems win against Trump. Clearly if the Republican party gets a grip, it won't be allowed, Trump won't even be the nominee
Yet it looks like it will be Trump versus either an ulra-Woke Dem or Senile Joe Biden, and Trump could easily win either
Which only makes any sense if it's with the explanation offered.
Do you really think he meant anything else?
Its literally in the sentence you quoted FFS.
He says
"the great Negro, at the time, pitcher in he Negro League"
THE GREAT NEGRO
There. We all agree. He said. Them three words in that order. Right there
So next time some poor idiot on Twitter is being cancelled for using "the wrong words" we can all refer to the President of the USA and say Oh they didn't say that, because they meant something else
Ought to be as famous as Babe Ruth or Joe diMaggio.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing?areaType=nation&areaName=England
shows the positivity rate for England as 9.2% (a week ago)
For some reason, Our World In Data (and some posters on here) persistently like to wrongly add in LFTs done in the UK when comparing PCR tests.
German number for calendar week 44 is 16% - again this is the positivity rate for PCR tests, which are only a small fraction of tests done, so it is a little difficult to draw solid conclusions about the "true level" of cases without knowing something about the LFT testing regime.
https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/COVID-19-Trends/COVID-19-Trends.html?__blob=publicationFile#/home
Germany hasn't handled coronavirus well but I'd like to know what people mean when they talk about German "covid hubris"?
Its what the league was called.
Its clear he's giving a compliment to a great player from the Negro League. He's not trying to offend anyone.
What he actually *meant* we can only surmise, with our own prejudices and assumptions at work. I hope the next person who offends the Woke is given as much latitude as Sleepy Joe Biden
It's a gaffe, and will be good fodder for those who dislike him on left and right, but nothing more than that.
I've just realised that YOU capitalised the N in your first 'negro'.
If Biden was calling him 'the great negro' you wouldn't capitalise the N. It's not a proper fucking noun.
The Negro League IS though. Which is why it's capitalised.
YOU KNOW he was talking about the Negro League, which is why YOU capitalised the N in a non-proper noun 'negro'.
That's the most logical explanation of his stumbling syntax. But halfway through, in his foggy brain, he realised he was saying something politically incorrect, so he tried to rework it, but too late. You can see this on his face, I reckon. But I am just projecting - as are you. All we have are those bald three words that he SAID. "The great negro".
Biden is not a racist, probably. But he is a white male American of a certain age who grew up when racist opinions were widespread and the word "Negro" was actually considered POLITE compared to other words. It is understandable it might slip out.
He is of his own, long-gone era. And that is increasingly evident, as time goes by
"Covid: First UK case in pet dog confirmed by top vet"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59246304
Calls for doggy vaccines incoming.
We live in different worlds nowadays.
The tragic spectacle of denial, sleepwalking towards the gulag.
It doesn't matter what you actually say, it's what We know you REALLY MEANT when you said it. So we always decide, on the Left, because we are correct and superior
You really are a bunch of sinister fucks
https://twitter.com/PrivateEyeNews/status/1458725722202292224
From here on out it's the screeching woke left vs Trumpism.
"Germany counted a staggering 50,196 new COVID-19 infections on Thursday, its highest count since the pandemic began."
https://twitter.com/AnselmGibbs/status/1458912740597284871?s=20
Given that RKI update into the early hours (or they did yesterday) this could hit 60,000?
I assure you I'm sincere in my beliefs, and if anyone cares to have a summary of them (I feel my audience at this point wouldn't fill a phone box), it's that we do best as a country when we don't go lurching suddenly off on some mad scheme, when we look after each other, when we preserve our freedoms and stick up for those in the world who want to preserve and win their own. But not at any old price: sometimes we're best to leave well alone. Capitalism is best but turns sour with large wealth inequalities, and we need the odd dose of social democracy to keep us honest. I have fairly wide parameters to what I think acceptable governance looks like, and I think probably 500+ of our MPs are good people. Boris Johnson isn't one of them, and probably has never been a good person in all his wretched life. He's a selfish, dangerous bastard, but even he gets some things right.
I don't have a lot of interest in China. I know their sabre rattling of Taiwan is wrong and their human rights is abysmal, but I also think their leadership has a streak of civilisation through it and they have a path to a better place without us throwing too much vinegar around. I'm much more worried by Russia's leadership, but all this comes from a fairly selfish point of view. I don't think China is really out to deliberately make my life worse, I'm just glad I don't live there. Putin, on the other hand, wants all of us to suffer. We need to watch China, but on Putin, we need to act.
If you know of anyone who is willing to pay for me to spout off on any of the above, I'll gladly take the cash. As long as I'm paid to give my own opinion and not someone else's, I'll happily be an infiltrator.
That is the difference between us. You guys cancel. We account for the human condition, the crooked timber of humanity, because we are intrinsically nicer than you
A white student or social sciences professor or trial lawyer is more likely to be ultra woke than a married, socially conservative Black or Hispanic
But the woke would be wailing if it were Trump.
You just seem to spout wild accusations from your fertile imagination inspired by the loonies corners of Twitter. It ain't the real world.
It may be a result of our travels to Asia, Australia and New Zealand in the years our eldest son lived in Christchurch 2003 - 2015 and it does provide a different view of the world and that Europe, while important, is not the whole story
On Putin I am genuinely interested in what steps we should take or as you say act
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If the 20th century was defined by the global battle between socialism and capitalism, perhaps the 21st century will be defined by the battle between wokeist radical progressives and traditionalist conservatives and nationalists?
Plenty of social Conservatives are on their third or more marriage.
I haven't seen the Thursday number. My guess is that it's going to be in the high 40s.
"50,196 is the figure for the 10th of November. It's not going to be updated. At some point tomorrow morning we will get the figures for the 11th of November"
So. Also. 50.196 is the figure for the 10th November. Is it? Really?
Let's check.... ooh, the Robert Koch Institute? Let's check them?
Ah.
"Coronavirus Disease. Situation Report by the RKI Institute for Germany, 11/11/2021, Current Status For Germany
Cases: 50,196"
See that
11/11/2021
There. 11/11/2021
Cases: 50, 196
https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/Nov_2021/2021-11-11-en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile
Nick Griffin would be in the Putin camp. Farage would be on the borderline.
And you'd be a fool to pass. What price spiritual purity?
as in
"Yesterday, 50,196 new laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 cases as well as 235 new deaths associated with COVID-19 were
transmitted to the RKI in Germany"
Whoever is nearest wins, obvs, and has to pay the homeless person, thereby storing up treasures in heaven
I reckon it will be 52k
Apparently the correct term is cremation or burial.