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  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

    The Donald for nominee is still slipping on Betfair.
    Lay price now 1.84, glad I bailed out last night at 1.64.

    I half expect to see Rubio coming in.
  • Bromptonaut
    Bromptonaut Posts: 1,113
    watford30 said:

    Bromptonaut said:

    watford30 said:

    Bromptonaut said:

    watford30 said:

    OldKingCole said:

    Patrick said:

    You don't feel increasing the population by the size of a major city like Cardiff, each year, every year might have some effect on housing supply/demand then? Not to mention Health, education, transport.

    Of course. But the natural response to increased demand is increased supply. In the UK we don't seem to have that option. 93% of the UK is still fields or wilderness. We are 'full' - but not really. The space available to build is full. A massive planning liberalisation (it's your land - do WTF you want with it) would make the supply / demand imbalance evaporate PDQ.

    I suspect I’m about the only resident in ther small town where I live (other than someone who is trying to sell a derelict garden centre) who isn’t busy signing petitions agains any more houses being built here.
    It's easy to understand why people are so reluctant to see every square inch of their neighbourhood built over to house the millions here as a result of uncontrolled immigration. And further enrich greedy property developers at the same time.
    Greedy property developers. Who built your house. And the place you work. And the place you shop. Who shouldn't be allowed to make a profit, unlike every other business out there.

    Laughable.
    Not my house. Nor workplace.

    Quite a few developers are taking the piss. And Osborne's helping them along with some of his wizard wheezes.
    Where are your kids going to live? A tent in your garden?
    Ideally not in a poorly built box, where the living space has been ever reduced in the relentless pursuit of profit.
    Better elect some decent Councillors for the planning committee then. They do have power, you know.
  • another_richard
    another_richard Posts: 27,927
    DavidL said:

    taffys said:

    DavidL said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    Reason 967 who no one sane would want to be an elected politician. No wonder we find that so many of them are nutters! To want to put yourself up for something like this is positively weird.
    The way the government has allowed the left to shift the blame on steel speaks volumes about the weak nature of team Cameron.

    Caroline Lucas is angling for recall of parliament. That's Caroline Lucas, whose policies would have destroyed the British Steel industry far more quickly than it is being destroyed.
    Well the call is to spend huge amounts of public money, not to do any good but to feel better about yourself. Lefties are good at that.

    The stat linked to earlier today says it all. Wage cost of 1 tonne of steel in the UK $200. Wage cost in China $10. You really can't fix that with a bit of slightly cheaper energy.
    Back in 2007 I asked here - in a globalised world economy the UK is competing against peoples who are as clever and educated as us and who are willing to work harder for less money and under fewer restrictions. How then will the UK maintain its much higher living standards ?

    A trillion pounds of government borrowing later and I've still not received an answer which makes sense.

  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670
    edited March 2016
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/reedfrich/status/715601621720375296

    He hasn't pivoted to the centre yet. Just you wait.

    EDIT: That said the figure needs breaking down by Dem/Pub as if that 46% is all Dem voters it is meaningless.
  • DavidL
    DavidL Posts: 55,867
    another_richard said:

    DavidL said:

    taffys said:

    DavidL said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    Reason 967 who no one sane would want to be an elected politician. No wonder we find that so many of them are nutters! To want to put yourself up for something like this is positively weird.
    The way the government has allowed the left to shift the blame on steel speaks volumes about the weak nature of team Cameron.

    Caroline Lucas is angling for recall of parliament. That's Caroline Lucas, whose policies would have destroyed the British Steel industry far more quickly than it is being destroyed.
    Well the call is to spend huge amounts of public money, not to do any good but to feel better about yourself. Lefties are good at that.

    The stat linked to earlier today says it all. Wage cost of 1 tonne of steel in the UK $200. Wage cost in China $10. You really can't fix that with a bit of slightly cheaper energy.
    Back in 2007 I asked here - in a globalised world economy the UK is competing against peoples who are as clever and educated as us and who are willing to work harder for less money and under fewer restrictions. How then will the UK maintain its much higher living standards ?

    A trillion pounds of government borrowing later and I've still not received an answer which makes sense.

    Well you shouldn't ask such difficult questions then.
  • watford30
    watford30 Posts: 3,474
    Bromptonaut said:

    watford30 said:

    Bromptonaut said:

    watford30 said:

    Bromptonaut said:

    watford30 said:

    OldKingCole said:

    Patrick said:

    You don't feel increasing the population by the size of a major city like Cardiff, each year, every year might have some effect on housing supply/demand then? Not to mention Health, education, transport.

    Of course. But the natural response to increased demand is increased supply. In the UK we don't seem to have that option. 93% of the UK is still fields or wilderness. We are 'full' - but not really. The space available to build is full. A massive planning liberalisation (it's your land - do WTF you want with it) would make the supply / demand imbalance evaporate PDQ.

    I suspect I’m about the only resident in ther small town where I live (other than someone who is trying to sell a derelict garden centre) who isn’t busy signing petitions agains any more houses being built here.
    It's easy to understand why people are so reluctant to see every square inch of their neighbourhood built over to house the millions here as a result of uncontrolled immigration. And further enrich greedy property developers at the same time.
    Greedy property developers. Who built your house. And the place you work. And the place you shop. Who shouldn't be allowed to make a profit, unlike every other business out there.

    Laughable.
    Not my house. Nor workplace.

    Quite a few developers are taking the piss. And Osborne's helping them along with some of his wizard wheezes.
    Where are your kids going to live? A tent in your garden?
    Ideally not in a poorly built box, where the living space has been ever reduced in the relentless pursuit of profit.
    Better elect some decent Councillors for the planning committee then. They do have power, you know.
    I suspect my local ones have mystical powers boosted by mysterious brown envelopes containing magical paper.
  • another_richard
    another_richard Posts: 27,927
    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    He's meant to be on a work trip not a family holiday.

    It looks crass.

    For a man who's already getting a reputation as a lightweight and as a box-ticking appointment it isn't good.

  • DavidL
    DavidL Posts: 55,867
    watford30 said:

    Bromptonaut said:

    watford30 said:

    Bromptonaut said:

    watford30 said:

    Bromptonaut said:

    watford30 said:

    OldKingCole said:

    Patrick said:

    You don't feel increasing the population by the size of a major city like Cardiff, each year, every year might have some effect on housing supply/demand then? Not to mention Health, education, transport.

    Of course. But the natural response to increased demand is increased supply. In the UK we don't seem to have that option. 93% of the UK is still fields or wilderness. We are 'full' - but not really. The space available to build is full. A massive planning liberalisation (it's your land - do WTF you want with it) would make the supply / demand imbalance evaporate PDQ.

    I suspect I’m about the only resident in ther small town where I live (other than someone who is trying to sell a derelict garden centre) who isn’t busy signing petitions agains any more houses being built here.
    It's easy to understand why people are so reluctant to see every square inch of their neighbourhood built over to house the millions here as a result of uncontrolled immigration. And further enrich greedy property developers at the same time.
    Greedy property developers. Who built your house. And the place you work. And the place you shop. Who shouldn't be allowed to make a profit, unlike every other business out there.

    Laughable.
    Not my house. Nor workplace.

    Quite a few developers are taking the piss. And Osborne's helping them along with some of his wizard wheezes.
    Where are your kids going to live? A tent in your garden?
    Ideally not in a poorly built box, where the living space has been ever reduced in the relentless pursuit of profit.
    Better elect some decent Councillors for the planning committee then. They do have power, you know.
    I suspect my local ones have mystical powers boosted by mysterious brown envelopes containing magical paper.
    Do you live in Hogsmeade?
  • tlg86
    tlg86 Posts: 26,950
    DavidL said:

    chestnut said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Brexit could change Hamilton Accies signing policy

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35934988

    These stories are just getting more and more ridiculous. I am waiting for stories of Brexit will mean that availability of Chorizo and Olives will be severely affected.

    There's no need for lower league football to be importing players, so League Two and the Scottish Premier League could be impacted.
    I think I heard on the radio that not a single one of the EU players playing in Scotland (more than 50) would meet the international criteria for a work permit for non EU countries. Which tells you everything you need to know about the sad state of the Scottish game really.
    Very true. Stoke City Chairman Peter Coates was on the six o'clock news bemoaning the effect it would have on his team. Looking at their squad I would say only Bojan Krkic would be a loss to the league. I actually think my team Arsenal would be affected more with Bellerin and Monreal.

    But Sam Allardyce was spot on when he said it's a non issue as the they'd come to a deal with the government as football and footballers pay so much tax. The point is it will be up to our government to decide who comes to our country (if we left the EEA too).

    Hopefully most football fans who saw tonight's piece on the news would have taken the view that it might do our clubs (and countries) some good if they had to develop home talent rather than importing the best youngsters in Europe.
  • DavidL
    DavidL Posts: 55,867
    tlg86 said:

    DavidL said:

    chestnut said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Brexit could change Hamilton Accies signing policy

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35934988

    These stories are just getting more and more ridiculous. I am waiting for stories of Brexit will mean that availability of Chorizo and Olives will be severely affected.

    There's no need for lower league football to be importing players, so League Two and the Scottish Premier League could be impacted.
    I think I heard on the radio that not a single one of the EU players playing in Scotland (more than 50) would meet the international criteria for a work permit for non EU countries. Which tells you everything you need to know about the sad state of the Scottish game really.
    Very true. Stoke City Chairman Peter Coates was on the six o'clock news bemoaning the effect it would have on his team. Looking at their squad I would say only Bojan Krkic would be a loss to the league. I actually think my team Arsenal would be affected more with Bellerin and Monreal.

    But Sam Allardyce was spot on when he said it's a non issue as the they'd come to a deal with the government as football and footballers pay so much tax. The point is it will be up to our government to decide who comes to our country (if we left the EEA too).

    Hopefully most football fans who saw tonight's piece on the news would have taken the view that it might do our clubs (and countries) some good if they had to develop home talent rather than importing the best youngsters in Europe.
    I remember the glory days when Dundee United beat Barcelona home and away with a team of 13 Scots.
  • Alanbrooke
    Alanbrooke Posts: 25,926
    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    Best ask the press they're layiing in to him. It's Sunny Jim and Crisis what crisis redux ? let's see him sell that in South Wales.
  • Sean_F
    Sean_F Posts: 39,132
    TNS have 35/35% Leave/Remain.
  • watford30
    watford30 Posts: 3,474
    edited March 2016
    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    Priorities. Javid's the Business Secretary, and 15000+ jobs are on the line.

    I agree it's a waste of time though - Cameron and Co should have been dealing with this months ago before it became a problem, rather than flailing around now when it's too late. Tata have them over a barrel.

  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    Good evening, everyone.

    Mr. F, Remain and Leave need to watch out, or Don't Know will have the pair of them.
  • tlg86
    tlg86 Posts: 26,950
    edited March 2016
    DavidL said:

    tlg86 said:

    DavidL said:

    chestnut said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Brexit could change Hamilton Accies signing policy

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35934988

    These stories are just getting more and more ridiculous. I am waiting for stories of Brexit will mean that availability of Chorizo and Olives will be severely affected.

    There's no need for lower league football to be importing players, so League Two and the Scottish Premier League could be impacted.
    I think I heard on the radio that not a single one of the EU players playing in Scotland (more than 50) would meet the international criteria for a work permit for non EU countries. Which tells you everything you need to know about the sad state of the Scottish game really.
    Very true. Stoke City Chairman Peter Coates was on the six o'clock news bemoaning the effect it would have on his team. Looking at their squad I would say only Bojan Krkic would be a loss to the league. I actually think my team Arsenal would be affected more with Bellerin and Monreal.

    But Sam Allardyce was spot on when he said it's a non issue as the they'd come to a deal with the government as football and footballers pay so much tax. The point is it will be up to our government to decide who comes to our country (if we left the EEA too).

    Hopefully most football fans who saw tonight's piece on the news would have taken the view that it might do our clubs (and countries) some good if they had to develop home talent rather than importing the best youngsters in Europe.
    I remember the glory days when Dundee United beat Barcelona home and away with a team of 13 Scots.
    Dundee United had 13 players, bit unfair don't you think? ;)
  • Hertsmere_Pubgoer
    Hertsmere_Pubgoer Posts: 3,476
    Alanbrooke said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    Best ask the press they're layiing in to him. It's Sunny Jim and Crisis what crisis redux ? let's see him sell that in South Wales.
    Talking of Sunny Jim.
    BBC Parliament are doing a thing for him as it's 40 years since becoming PM
    3rd April iirc.
  • EPG
    EPG Posts: 6,739
    Surely it's crazy to think that the elected delegates to the Republican national convention, most of whom will have been instructed to vote for Trump or Cruz, will ditch BOTH Trump, AND Cruz, to support anyone else?

    How on earth does John Kasich or Paul Ryan snatch the nomination from a pair of candidates whose supporters think the former are establishment girly men?
  • MP_SE
    MP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Alanbrooke said:

    taffys said:

    DavidL said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    Reason 967 who no one sane would want to be an elected politician. No wonder we find that so many of them are nutters! To want to put yourself up for something like this is positively weird.
    The way the government has allowed the left to shift the blame on steel speaks volumes about the weak nature of team Cameron.

    Caroline Lucas is angling for recall of parliament. That's Caroline Lucas, whose policies would have destroyed the British Steel industry far more quickly than it is being destroyed.
    Hmmm

    cameron's weakness in this is if he thinks overtaxing energy for business is bad, then why hasn't he changed it ?
    Because he secretly supports all the green crap.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Sean_F said:

    TNS have 35/35% Leave/Remain.

    30% undecided is pretty amazing at this stage.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Alanbrooke said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    Best ask the press they're layiing in to him. It's Sunny Jim and Crisis what crisis redux ? let's see him sell that in South Wales.
    To be honest, I'd far rather have a rested and happy minister working on the job than an exhausted and miserable one.

    I'd be worried if he wasn't taking a good holiday.
  • Alanbrooke
    Alanbrooke Posts: 25,926
    watford30 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    Priorities. Javid's the Business Secretary, and 15000+ jobs are on the line.

    I agree it's a waste of time though - Cameron and Co should have been dealing with this months ago before it became a problem, rather than flailing around now when it's too late. Tata have them over a barrel.

    yup

    if he'd done his job before he went on holiday he could have enjoyed it.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    edited March 2016
    another_richard said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    He's meant to be on a work trip not a family holiday.

    It looks crass.

    For a man who's already getting a reputation as a lightweight and as a box-ticking appointment it isn't good.

    Whatever. If I was on a work trip to Australia, and I could take my wife or some of my family along, I would.

    Wouldn't you?
  • TCPoliticalBetting
    TCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    edited March 2016
    AndyJS said:

    Sean_F said:

    TNS have 35/35% Leave/Remain.

    30% undecided is pretty amazing at this stage.
    TNS Compared to other surveys, yes, but if we are heading below a 60% turnout then this is not a surprise.
  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    Get your paddleboards here:

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=628915837265874&id=139501296207333&refsrc=https://m.facebook.com/MoanaNewZealand/videos/628915837265874/&_rdr

    My brother :-)
  • Hertsmere_Pubgoer
    Hertsmere_Pubgoer Posts: 3,476
    MP_SE said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    taffys said:

    DavidL said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    Reason 967 who no one sane would want to be an elected politician. No wonder we find that so many of them are nutters! To want to put yourself up for something like this is positively weird.
    The way the government has allowed the left to shift the blame on steel speaks volumes about the weak nature of team Cameron.

    Caroline Lucas is angling for recall of parliament. That's Caroline Lucas, whose policies would have destroyed the British Steel industry far more quickly than it is being destroyed.
    Hmmm

    cameron's weakness in this is if he thinks overtaxing energy for business is bad, then why hasn't he changed it ?
    Because he secretly supports all the green crap.
    They've had 6 years to do something about it.
    The fact that the square root of sod all has happened says what Cameron and the boy George really think about it.
  • Alanbrooke
    Alanbrooke Posts: 25,926
    Casino_Royale said:

    another_richard said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    He's meant to be on a work trip not a family holiday.

    It looks crass.

    For a man who's already getting a reputation as a lightweight and as a box-ticking appointment it isn't good.

    Whatever. If I was on a work trip to Australia, and I could take my wife or some of my family along, I would.

    Wouldn't you?
    Of course, but I'd tidy up my problems before I went. This has been evident since September last year when we had the problems in Scunthorpe.

    Likewise us metal bashers have been saying to def ears for years that the energy policy is a major problem, He ignored all the warnings.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Casino_Royale said:

    another_richard said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    He's meant to be on a work trip not a family holiday.

    It looks crass.

    For a man who's already getting a reputation as a lightweight and as a box-ticking appointment it isn't good.

    Whatever. If I was on a work trip to Australia, and I could take my wife or some of my family along, I would.

    Wouldn't you?
    My MD isn't a massive fan of it, but providing you ask him first and pay for +1's airfares extensions to official trips normally are allowed. Javid looks to have followed standard business procedure.
  • TCPoliticalBetting
    TCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    Alanbrooke said:

    watford30 said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    Priorities. Javid's the Business Secretary, and 15000+ jobs are on the line.

    I agree it's a waste of time though - Cameron and Co should have been dealing with this months ago before it became a problem, rather than flailing around now when it's too late. Tata have them over a barrel.

    yup

    if he'd done his job before he went on holiday he could have enjoyed it.
    Exactly. Javid either does not have the sense to have organised a sensible plan* for the steel sector well before he left with scenario planning built in or he is just a RHINO minister with Osborne dictating everything. Since he seems to have forgotten his eurosceptic beliefs , I tend to the view that Osborne decides it all.

    *sensible = ending energy burdens on steel business, sensible business rates for steel etc, supporting hikes in EU tariffs on imported steel, establishing low tax areas in towns liable to massive dislocation etc etc.....
  • TCPoliticalBetting
    TCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    Alanbrooke said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    another_richard said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    He's meant to be on a work trip not a family holiday.

    It looks crass.

    For a man who's already getting a reputation as a lightweight and as a box-ticking appointment it isn't good.

    Whatever. If I was on a work trip to Australia, and I could take my wife or some of my family along, I would.

    Wouldn't you?
    Of course, but I'd tidy up my problems before I went. This has been evident since September last year when we had the problems in Scunthorpe.

    Likewise us metal bashers have been saying to def ears for years that the energy policy is a major problem, He ignored all the warnings.
    I did have some sympathy for Javid because Osborne seems to take all the decisions, but Javid should not be occupying the cabinet slot if he is so feeble. Really Here In Name Only.
  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670
    EPG said:

    Surely it's crazy to think that the elected delegates to the Republican national convention, most of whom will have been instructed to vote for Trump or Cruz, will ditch BOTH Trump, AND Cruz, to support anyone else?

    How on earth does John Kasich or Paul Ryan snatch the nomination from a pair of candidates whose supporters think the former are establishment girly men?

    Delegates may be instructed to vote for X in the first round but personally prefer Y. The local rules for each state are Byzantine for determining who the actual delegates are.
  • LondonBob
    LondonBob Posts: 467
    edited March 2016
    Three Wisconsin polls, one with Cruz well ahead and two with it running pretty even stevens.

    The fact Heidi Cruz cancelled her NY appearances two days ago to campaign in WI tells me it is a close one. Ultimately it will come down to how many mischievous Democrats vote for Cruz against how many blue collar Democrats vote for Trump, for positive reasons. No one can really answer that. Think Trump will get plus 9 delegates, regardless.

    Ignore the MSM fantasies about Trump, the American media know little of the American people, and care even less.
  • TCPoliticalBetting
    TCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

    MP_SE said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    taffys said:

    DavidL said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    Reason 967 who no one sane would want to be an elected politician. No wonder we find that so many of them are nutters! To want to put yourself up for something like this is positively weird.
    The way the government has allowed the left to shift the blame on steel speaks volumes about the weak nature of team Cameron.

    Caroline Lucas is angling for recall of parliament. That's Caroline Lucas, whose policies would have destroyed the British Steel industry far more quickly than it is being destroyed.
    Hmmm

    cameron's weakness in this is if he thinks overtaxing energy for business is bad, then why hasn't he changed it ?
    Because he secretly supports all the green crap.
    They've had 6 years to do something about it.
    The fact that the square root of sod all has happened says what Cameron and the boy George really think about it.
    Yes the pair are mainly to blame and it is about management style and delegation. With the pair and Osborne in particular, trying to take all the decisions it ossifies Government since it can only move at the speed of one man, Osborne, rather than having 15+ people in charge of their own departments running things effectively.
  • another_richard
    another_richard Posts: 27,927
    Casino_Royale said:

    another_richard said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    He's meant to be on a work trip not a family holiday.

    It looks crass.

    For a man who's already getting a reputation as a lightweight and as a box-ticking appointment it isn't good.

    Whatever. If I was on a work trip to Australia, and I could take my wife or some of my family along, I would.

    Wouldn't you?
    In my experience work trips tend to be rather tiring and focussed on work.

    Not some pointless jolly.

    I can't recall anyone bringing along the family on a work trip where I work.
  • logical_song
    logical_song Posts: 10,082
    EPG said:

    Surely it's crazy to think that the elected delegates to the Republican national convention, most of whom will have been instructed to vote for Trump or Cruz, will ditch BOTH Trump, AND Cruz, to support anyone else?

    How on earth does John Kasich or Paul Ryan snatch the nomination from a pair of candidates whose supporters think the former are establishment girly men?

    "Using CQ's Guide to U.S. Elections, we looked up every convention in which no one had a majority on the first vote since 1872. And in the majority of those, the person who had the most votes on the first ballot did not end up as the party's nominee."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/30/history-suggests-a-contested-convention-could-be-very-bad-for-donald-trump/
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    edited March 2016
    Alistair said:

    EPG said:

    Surely it's crazy to think that the elected delegates to the Republican national convention, most of whom will have been instructed to vote for Trump or Cruz, will ditch BOTH Trump, AND Cruz, to support anyone else?

    How on earth does John Kasich or Paul Ryan snatch the nomination from a pair of candidates whose supporters think the former are establishment girly men?

    Delegates may be instructed to vote for X in the first round but personally prefer Y. The local rules for each state are Byzantine for determining who the actual delegates are.
    Cruz looks to be doing a decent stitch up job on especially ex-Rubio delegates, and is quite popular amongst "grass roots" from what I can work out - so if it isn't Trump it is very likely lyin' Ted.
  • Casino_Royale
    Casino_Royale Posts: 63,687
    Alanbrooke said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    another_richard said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    He's meant to be on a work trip not a family holiday.

    It looks crass.

    For a man who's already getting a reputation as a lightweight and as a box-ticking appointment it isn't good.

    Whatever. If I was on a work trip to Australia, and I could take my wife or some of my family along, I would.

    Wouldn't you?
    Of course, but I'd tidy up my problems before I went. This has been evident since September last year when we had the problems in Scunthorpe.

    Likewise us metal bashers have been saying to def ears for years that the energy policy is a major problem, He ignored all the warnings.
    If he's shit at his job, let's attack him for being shit at his job.

    If he's competent, and does a good job, then none of us should begrudge him a holiday - or taking family if he's allowed too.

    Too often we just don't like politicians so we enjoy seeing them suffer and dislike seeing them enjoy themselves.
  • chestnut
    chestnut Posts: 7,341
    edited March 2016
    The government are not going to mess around with Premier League multi-multi-multi-millionaire footballers.

    Well, a Corbyn government might.
  • TCPoliticalBetting
    TCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    Ouch (apologies if already posted).
    "One group included Alan Anderson and David Alexander, who used to work as advisers to senior figures in John Howard’s government.
    Anderson told Red Box: “He basically gave a speech 90 per cent saying free trade is good and then the last 10 per cent he slipped in ‘therefore we should stay in the European Union’.
    “A number of people went up and buttonholed him after dinner.”
    Javid was criticised for the suggestion that Britain could not negotiate a decent free trade deal with the EU, while Anderson told him: “Don’t you find it demeaning that your prime minister had to trawl around Europe to try to change your own welfare policy for making payments to non-resident children?”"
    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/redbox/topic/the-europe-question/javid-savaged-by-australians-over-support-for-eu
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    LondonBob said:

    Three Wisconsin polls, one with Cruz well ahead and two with it running pretty even stevens.

    The fact Heidi Cruz cancelled her NY appearances two days ago to campaign in WI tells me it is a close one. Ultimately it will come down to how many mischievous Democrats vote for Cruz against how many blue collar Democrats vote for Trump, for positive reasons. No one can really answer that. Think Trump will get plus 9 delegates, regardless.

    Ignore the MSM fantasies about Trump, the American media know little of the American people, and care even less.

    I think Cruz wins Wisconsin by 44-37 over Trump.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    On Javid, it was an extension to a work trip he didn't take. So a bit academic really.
  • kle4
    kle4 Posts: 99,113
    Casino_Royale said:

    another_richard said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    He's meant to be on a work trip not a family holiday.

    It looks crass.

    For a man who's already getting a reputation as a lightweight and as a box-ticking appointment it isn't good.

    Whatever. If I was on a work trip to Australia, and I could take my wife or some of my family along, I would.

    Wouldn't you?
    I don't actually care about this specific 'scandal', but I will say I see nothing particularly wrong holding elected officials to a higher standard than I would hold myself - they chose to participate in politics, and have been granted a measure of power over the lives of millions (albeit minor for most of them), they should be better than the man in the street faced with the same temptations.

    That said, and though I've certainly been guilty of stereotyping MPs negatively, I do think for many things they get given a lot of unnecessary or unfair sh*t about a lot of trivial matters, and that we the public react so poorly to such things is a major factor behind so many overly coached bland robots end up as our MPs, as the only way to survive for most.

    I'm fine holding them to a higher standard in many ways, but they deserve a bit more credit or leeway in some others.
  • Alanbrooke
    Alanbrooke Posts: 25,926
    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    another_richard said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    He's meant to be on a work trip not a family holiday.

    It looks crass.

    For a man who's already getting a reputation as a lightweight and as a box-ticking appointment it isn't good.

    Whatever. If I was on a work trip to Australia, and I could take my wife or some of my family along, I would.

    Wouldn't you?
    Of course, but I'd tidy up my problems before I went. This has been evident since September last year when we had the problems in Scunthorpe.

    Likewise us metal bashers have been saying to def ears for years that the energy policy is a major problem, He ignored all the warnings.
    If he's shit at his job, let's attack him for being shit at his job.

    If he's competent, and does a good job, then none of us should begrudge him a holiday - or taking family if he's allowed too.

    Too often we just don't like politicians so we enjoy seeing them suffer and dislike seeing them enjoy themselves.
    He's not that good at his job. And luck seems to have deserted him.

    A banker with dodgy bonus arrangements telling distressed communities to suck it up just won't sell.

  • Hertsmere_Pubgoer
    Hertsmere_Pubgoer Posts: 3,476
    TCPoliticalBetting said:

    Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

    MP_SE said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    taffys said:

    DavidL said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    Reason 967 who no one sane would want to be an elected politician. No wonder we find that so many of them are nutters! To want to put yourself up for something like this is positively weird.
    The way the government has allowed the left to shift the blame on steel speaks volumes about the weak nature of team Cameron.

    Caroline Lucas is angling for recall of parliament. That's Caroline Lucas, whose policies would have destroyed the British Steel industry far more quickly than it is being destroyed.
    Hmmm

    cameron's weakness in this is if he thinks overtaxing energy for business is bad, then why hasn't he changed it ?
    Because he secretly supports all the green crap.
    They've had 6 years to do something about it.
    The fact that the square root of sod all has happened says what Cameron and the boy George really think about it.
    Yes the pair are mainly to blame and it is about management style and delegation. With the pair and Osborne in particular, trying to take all the decisions it ossifies Government since it can only move at the speed of one man, Osborne, rather than having 15+ people in charge of their own departments running things effectively.
    You're right.
    For me, they've been crushingly disappointing.
    They've aimed to be 1% better than Blair/Brown and regard that as a stunning success.
  • TCPoliticalBetting
    TCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    another_richard said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    another_richard said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    He's meant to be on a work trip not a family holiday.

    It looks crass.

    For a man who's already getting a reputation as a lightweight and as a box-ticking appointment it isn't good.

    Whatever. If I was on a work trip to Australia, and I could take my wife or some of my family along, I would.

    Wouldn't you?
    In my experience work trips tend to be rather tiring and focussed on work.
    Not some pointless jolly.
    I can't recall anyone bringing along the family on a work trip where I work.
    In 20 years of Business travelling I never once took the family except for once when I went to work for more than a month in a location. Javid looks like a semi-detatched minister.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    I see that Trump's odds to be the GOP nominee is approaching fair value on Betfair.
    I personally give Trump a 40% chance of getting to 1237 plus an extra 10% in the convention if he doesn't get to 1237, for a total of 46% chance to be the GOP nominee.

    Still the most sure bet is Winning Party: Democrats which is at only 73%, when in reality it should be 90%, since a significant chunk of the GOP is going to split whoever the GOP nominee is.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Alanbrooke said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    another_richard said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    He's not allowed a family holiday?
    He's meant to be on a work trip not a family holiday.

    It looks crass.

    For a man who's already getting a reputation as a lightweight and as a box-ticking appointment it isn't good.

    Whatever. If I was on a work trip to Australia, and I could take my wife or some of my family along, I would.

    Wouldn't you?
    Of course, but I'd tidy up my problems before I went. This has been evident since September last year when we had the problems in Scunthorpe.

    Likewise us metal bashers have been saying to def ears for years that the energy policy is a major problem, He ignored all the warnings.
    If he's shit at his job, let's attack him for being shit at his job.

    If he's competent, and does a good job, then none of us should begrudge him a holiday - or taking family if he's allowed too.

    Too often we just don't like politicians so we enjoy seeing them suffer and dislike seeing them enjoy themselves.
    He's not that good at his job. And luck seems to have deserted him.

    A banker with dodgy bonus arrangements telling distressed communities to suck it up just won't sell.

    Not been a great year for Osborne and his subs.
  • Philip_Thompson
    Philip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Alanbrooke said:

    taffys said:

    DavidL said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    Reason 967 who no one sane would want to be an elected politician. No wonder we find that so many of them are nutters! To want to put yourself up for something like this is positively weird.
    The way the government has allowed the left to shift the blame on steel speaks volumes about the weak nature of team Cameron.

    Caroline Lucas is angling for recall of parliament. That's Caroline Lucas, whose policies would have destroyed the British Steel industry far more quickly than it is being destroyed.
    Hmmm

    cameron's weakness in this is if he thinks overtaxing energy for business is bad, then why hasn't he changed it ?
    Possibly because he thinks that there's been a mammoth budget deficit to close so the opportunity for tax cuts has been limited. Fuel duty for instance has been frozen for six years which is a real terms cut.
  • Alanbrooke
    Alanbrooke Posts: 25,926
    Philip_Thompson said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    taffys said:

    DavidL said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    Reason 967 who no one sane would want to be an elected politician. No wonder we find that so many of them are nutters! To want to put yourself up for something like this is positively weird.
    The way the government has allowed the left to shift the blame on steel speaks volumes about the weak nature of team Cameron.

    Caroline Lucas is angling for recall of parliament. That's Caroline Lucas, whose policies would have destroyed the British Steel industry far more quickly than it is being destroyed.
    Hmmm

    cameron's weakness in this is if he thinks overtaxing energy for business is bad, then why hasn't he changed it ?
    Possibly because he thinks that there's been a mammoth budget deficit to close so the opportunity for tax cuts has been limited. Fuel duty for instance has been frozen for six years which is a real terms cut.
    So not taking the tough decisions then.
  • Alistair
    Alistair Posts: 23,670
    edited March 2016
    Wow, trump is out to 1.74/1.8 that's a move of .1 in about 6 hours.

    Cruz is down to 4.9/5.3

    So happy I have stepped out.

    So these two sentences are true

    "Rubio came 3rd in Iowa making him odds on favourite"
    and
    "Ted Cruz was named in a sex scandal, his odds improved considerably"
  • TonyE
    TonyE Posts: 938
    Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

    MP_SE said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    taffys said:

    DavidL said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    Reason 967 who no one sane would want to be an elected politician. No wonder we find that so many of them are nutters! To want to put yourself up for something like this is positively weird.
    The way the government has allowed the left to shift the blame on steel speaks volumes about the weak nature of team Cameron.

    Caroline Lucas is angling for recall of parliament. That's Caroline Lucas, whose policies would have destroyed the British Steel industry far more quickly than it is being destroyed.
    Hmmm

    cameron's weakness in this is if he thinks overtaxing energy for business is bad, then why hasn't he changed it ?
    Because he secretly supports all the green crap.
    They've had 6 years to do something about it.
    The fact that the square root of sod all has happened says what Cameron and the boy George really think about it.
    Well they do have 'Green' targets to hit....
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    Alistair said:

    Wow, trump is out to 1.74/1.8 that's a move of .1 in about 6 hours.

    Cruz is down to 4.9/5.3

    So happy I have stepped out.

    Now you're getting the idea why for reasons of keeping my sanity I never considered betting on this after the last week before Iowa.

    This is a rollercoaster.
    Who knows how bad will this get for Trump before New York votes in 20 days and gives him a boost.
  • Indigo
    Indigo Posts: 9,966
    Philip_Thompson said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    taffys said:

    DavidL said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Sajid Javid's bad patch continues

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/31/sajid-javid-took-teenage-daughter-with-him-on-australia-holiday/

    Reason 967 who no one sane would want to be an elected politician. No wonder we find that so many of them are nutters! To want to put yourself up for something like this is positively weird.
    The way the government has allowed the left to shift the blame on steel speaks volumes about the weak nature of team Cameron.

    Caroline Lucas is angling for recall of parliament. That's Caroline Lucas, whose policies would have destroyed the British Steel industry far more quickly than it is being destroyed.
    Hmmm

    cameron's weakness in this is if he thinks overtaxing energy for business is bad, then why hasn't he changed it ?
    Possibly because he thinks that there's been a mammoth budget deficit to close so the opportunity for tax cuts has been limited. Fuel duty for instance has been frozen for six years which is a real terms cut.
    It doesn't really wash, same problem as the nobbling the disabled in the budget. It walks straight into the rejoinder about if times where so tough why were there giveaways to the middle classes in the budget. Less handouts for Tory voters in the Shires, more fixing British industry and people stop laughing when they see George in a high vis vest.
  • ThreeQuidder
    ThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    I'm struggling to believe this football scare story. It's almost as if nobody had realised that the reason that the work permit ruled have recently been tightened is that there are so many EU nationals in the league. [*] And that if EU nationals could be treated as foreign rather than effectively British, the work permit rules could be loosened, thus allowing lesser EU nationals to be replaced by better non-EU nationals.

    [*] This in turn is because UK talent attracts a premium. I've always assumed this is because there's a lower risk of homesickness.
  • ThreeQuidder
    ThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    Nouveau thread
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    By the way it was just a couple of days ago that I rang the warning bell on Trump again about the situation Wisconsin, once again I was right and the
    odds in the markets changed.

    Last time I rang the warning bell about Trump was after Super Tuesday about Cruz overperforming and the schedule being favorable to Cruz until March 8th, I was right again and the odds in the markets changed.

    Not to mention my accurate predictions about Rubio, Bush, Fiorina, Walker, Christie ect ect.
    So my predictive record on the GOP race is still intact (Ben Carson being the exception, but he did shine briefly in October and November).

    What does the future hold though?
    Well I will make another prediction that if all things stay the same, Trump's odds are going to bounce back in the markets if he wins N.Y. by as much as the polls say.
  • Tykejohnno
    Tykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Yorkcity said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    Yorkcity said:

    The six oclock news on BBC says we should be concerned that brexit might cause problems for the English and Scottish premier league clubs.
    That clinches it then.
    What utter drivel.

    So the PL and SPL couldn't import loads of foreign players and would have to develop their own.

    Mightn't that lead to better performing national teams ?
    My thoughts exactly Alan .
    As with Spurs at the moment more English and Scottish players might get a chance to play in the first team.
    Project fear stikes again, so if brexit wins,our football will be taken back to the 1930's ;-)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4CXY6TVBMc
  • weejonnie
    weejonnie Posts: 3,820
    When discussing the referendum on twitter, David Cameron, Jeremy Corbyn and Nigel Farage come out as the politicians most referred to, however only 1% of these tweets were of a positive tone – a breakdown of whether the tweets were positive or negative can be seen below:

    David Cameron: Positive 1%, Neutral 57%, Negative 42%
    Jeremy Corbyn: Positive 1%, Neutral 43%, Negative 55%
    Nigel Farage: Positive 1%, Neutral 82%, Negative 17%

    TNS - WOW Farage now seen on twitter as the best of them all :)
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