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Liverpool and Bradford, one is full of the descendants of economic migrants to Britain, the legacy of Empire, largely from a religious minority that has been unpopular and discriminated against, unfairly associated with terrorists
The other is in Yorkshire0 -
I will be surprised if Kasich doesn't beat Trump by double digits:
Monmouth, Ohio
Kasich 40
Trump 35
Cruz 15
Rubio 5
http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/e2e94533-5376-4498-8e62-b21454f3e8ba.pdf0 -
I believe that is an issue in the US, where Uber provides the insurance. In the UK, it is the responsibility of the driver to get their own commercial insurance. Indeed, I've had several Uber drivers who've explained to me that they alternate between working for minicab firms (where you get prebooked Heathrow jobs) and Uber (where you get surge pricing on a Friday night).NorfolkTilIDie said:
I've got no problem with different fare limits and ratios. What I object to is Uber pretending its drivers are not really employees when they limit them from taking fares outside their system, and thus not giving the appropriate employee protections or taking liability responsibilities.rcs1000 said:
Uber drivers are subject to the same rules and regulations as any mini cab driver. In fact, the vast majority of them are ex-mini cab drivers, who prefer to take 85% of a smaller fare rather than 50% of a larger one.NorfolkTilIDie said:
There's nothing anti-business in believing minimum safety standards and pollution limits should be met.rcs1000 said:
He is anti-Uber and anti-Heathrow expansion. How much more anti-business would you like?Dixie said:
When has he ever sad he is anti-business? Absurdrcs1000 said:
Sadly, I increasingly share your view. It is incomprehensible to me that the Conservative Party has chosen someone so appallingly anti-business.AlastairMeeks said:I am currently planning to spoil my ballot paper. The whole lot of them look useless and I can't dignify any of them with my vote.
Uber has changed - for the better - more lives than any politicians has in living memory. To have the two leading candidates for mayor in hock to vested interests is utterly disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves.0 -
I think keeping it works as follows:TheWhiteRabbit said:
You misunderstand, neither Pulps nor I express any confidence in Mr Wang's viewSpeedy said:
I don't need to know a Sam Wang to do the arithmetic for me.TheWhiteRabbit said:
Of course *we* know that. Did you read Wang's article?Speedy said:
Strategically it's bad news for Trump.Pulpstar said:
Strategically that's great news for Trump though (According to Sam Wang)Speedy said:Can't see how Trump wins Ohio, tactical voting has worked brilliantly for Kasich.
He needs those 66 delegates and to get rid of Kasich to demoralize the anti-Trump forces.
In a 3 way race, strategic voting for Kasich in the east and for Cruz in the west is enough to deny Trump victory as long as Trump is bellow 40%, the result will be a nasty convention in which the GOP splinters in 3 pieces since no one will get what they want, except Romney of course.
Result: winner Democrats.
It's the logical end result of a very sickly organization that the Republicans have become, in that probably G.W. Bush maybe their last president ever.
Simple math plus a simple look around the anti-Trump forces to see what they are plotting is enough.
Winning Ohio - Greater chance of hitting the 1237 threshold. Greater chance of Cruz overtaking him.
Losing Ohio - Less chance of hitting 1237. Practically no chance of Cruz overtaking him.0 -
@adrianmcmenamin: Shadow Cabinet members - now would be a good time to ask yourself if you are really making any sort of difference or just propping this up.0
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@JournoStephen: The Labour Party in 2016. https://t.co/9vTYNw0Lkb0
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I'm pretty sure companies can face lawsuits if they employ someone that puts the public in danger because they didn't do the proper checks. Uber tries to dodge that by pretending its employees are not actually employees. Also often paying below minimum wage in the process.rcs1000 said:
I believe that is an issue in the US, where Uber provides the insurance. In the UK, it is the responsibility of the driver to get their own commercial insurance. Indeed, I've had several Uber drivers who've explained to me that they alternate between working for minicab firms (where you get prebooked Heathrow jobs) and Uber (where you get surge pricing on a Friday night).NorfolkTilIDie said:
I've got no problem with different fare limits and ratios. What I object to is Uber pretending its drivers are not really employees when they limit them from taking fares outside their system, and thus not giving the appropriate employee protections or taking liability responsibilities.rcs1000 said:
Uber drivers are subject to the same rules and regulations as any mini cab driver. In fact, the vast majority of them are ex-mini cab drivers, who prefer to take 85% of a smaller fare rather than 50% of a larger one.NorfolkTilIDie said:
There's nothing anti-business in believing minimum safety standards and pollution limits should be met.rcs1000 said:
He is anti-Uber and anti-Heathrow expansion. How much more anti-business would you like?Dixie said:
When has he ever sad he is anti-business? Absurdrcs1000 said:
Sadly, I increasingly share your view. It is incomprehensible to me that the Conservative Party has chosen someone so appallingly anti-business.AlastairMeeks said:I am currently planning to spoil my ballot paper. The whole lot of them look useless and I can't dignify any of them with my vote.
Uber has changed - for the better - more lives than any politicians has in living memory. To have the two leading candidates for mayor in hock to vested interests is utterly disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves.0 -
Well, that's like my assessment only more clearly wordedPulpstar said:
I think keeping it works as follows:TheWhiteRabbit said:
You misunderstand, neither Pulps nor I express any confidence in Mr Wang's viewSpeedy said:
I don't need to know a Sam Wang to do the arithmetic for me.TheWhiteRabbit said:
Of course *we* know that. Did you read Wang's article?Speedy said:
Strategically it's bad news for Trump.Pulpstar said:
Strategically that's great news for Trump though (According to Sam Wang)Speedy said:Can't see how Trump wins Ohio, tactical voting has worked brilliantly for Kasich.
He needs those 66 delegates and to get rid of Kasich to demoralize the anti-Trump forces.
In a 3 way race, strategic voting for Kasich in the east and for Cruz in the west is enough to deny Trump victory as long as Trump is bellow 40%, the result will be a nasty convention in which the GOP splinters in 3 pieces since no one will get what they want, except Romney of course.
Result: winner Democrats.
It's the logical end result of a very sickly organization that the Republicans have become, in that probably G.W. Bush maybe their last president ever.
Simple math plus a simple look around the anti-Trump forces to see what they are plotting is enough.
Winning Ohio - Greater chance of hitting the 1237 threshold. Greater chance of Cruz overtaking him.
Losing Ohio - Less chance of hitting 1237. Practically no chance of Cruz overtaking him.
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ICM = titter....
Howay the lads...0 -
Rubio's are evenly split / didn't go to anyone. Carson's say 6 go to Trump.Speedy said:https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/03/14/trump-rises-national-support-rubio-falls-and-carso/
Trump 53 +9
Cruz 22 +1
Kasich 11 +2
Rubio 10 -7
I don't believe this poll, if it's accurate then Trump has to score close or above 50% at some states tomorrow, and there is little evidence that Rubio's support has gone to Trump in the state polls.0 -
Nowithstanding the caveats ICM does rather confirm the trend shown by yesterday’s ComRes online poll . Maybe worth pointing out that Labour is actually now doing better with ICM than at the same stage of the last Parliament – March 2011 – when we were looking at Con 37 Lab 36 LD 16!
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Shah Jehan Mosque in Woking was opened to the public in Oct or Nov 1889 and was apparently the first purpose-built mosque in the country. It is a prominent landmark which can be seen as you approach Woking from the east by train.RodCrosby said:
Although we had the first, opened on Christmas Day 1889...perdix said:
More mosques than Liverpool I think.Roger said:Completely OT. I had reason to go to the National Media Museum in Bradford. For anyone living nearby I can really recommend it. It's supposed to be moving to the V&A which seems a shame for Bradford though several of the great and the good are trying to keep it where it is.
Bradford is not what I expected at all. A well laid out City Centre not unlike Liverpool with several galleries cafes restaurants and theaters. Interesting also the huge density of Muslims. Far greater than anywhere else I've been to in the UK. Generally a very colourful place0 -
Blue on blue having an effect?
ICM poll not worthy of own thread!!!0 -
That's only one of the tests of being employees though, most of the other tests would fall on the side of being self-employed.NorfolkTilIDie said:
I've got no problem with different fare limits and ratios. What I object to is Uber pretending its drivers are not really employees when they limit them from taking fares outside their system, and thus not giving the appropriate employee protections or taking liability responsibilities.rcs1000 said:
Uber drivers are subject to the same rules and regulations as any mini cab driver. In fact, the vast majority of them are ex-mini cab drivers, who prefer to take 85% of a smaller fare rather than 50% of a larger one.NorfolkTilIDie said:
There's nothing anti-business in believing minimum safety standards and pollution limits should be met.rcs1000 said:
He is anti-Uber and anti-Heathrow expansion. How much more anti-business would you like?Dixie said:
When has he ever sad he is anti-business? Absurdrcs1000 said:
Sadly, I increasingly share your view. It is incomprehensible to me that the Conservative Party has chosen someone so appallingly anti-business.AlastairMeeks said:I am currently planning to spoil my ballot paper. The whole lot of them look useless and I can't dignify any of them with my vote.
Uber has changed - for the better - more lives than any politicians has in living memory. To have the two leading candidates for mayor in hock to vested interests is utterly disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves.0 -
Such as?JohnLilburne said:
That's only one of the tests of being employees though, most of the other tests would fall on the side of being self-employed.NorfolkTilIDie said:
I've got no problem with different fare limits and ratios. What I object to is Uber pretending its drivers are not really employees when they limit them from taking fares outside their system, and thus not giving the appropriate employee protections or taking liability responsibilities.rcs1000 said:
Uber drivers are subject to the same rules and regulations as any mini cab driver. In fact, the vast majority of them are ex-mini cab drivers, who prefer to take 85% of a smaller fare rather than 50% of a larger one.NorfolkTilIDie said:
There's nothing anti-business in believing minimum safety standards and pollution limits should be met.rcs1000 said:
He is anti-Uber and anti-Heathrow expansion. How much more anti-business would you like?Dixie said:
When has he ever sad he is anti-business? Absurdrcs1000 said:
Sadly, I increasingly share your view. It is incomprehensible to me that the Conservative Party has chosen someone so appallingly anti-business.AlastairMeeks said:I am currently planning to spoil my ballot paper. The whole lot of them look useless and I can't dignify any of them with my vote.
Uber has changed - for the better - more lives than any politicians has in living memory. To have the two leading candidates for mayor in hock to vested interests is utterly disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves.0 -
It does seem that among some in the Labour Party, anti-semitism isn't taken seriously thoughRoger said:
No it isn't and it's invariably from people who have pretty suspect views themselves. I don't want to get into it.Luckyguy1983 said:
It does feel like some nasty comments/individuals are being used to paint the party as racist.Roger said:
Stupidest comment of the dayPlato_Says said:Ouch
James Worron
A party that's divided on Europe vs one divided on hating Jews isn't really a contest.
Not nice when that happens is it?0 -
How is Uber different from a mini cab firm?NorfolkTilIDie said:
I'm pretty sure companies can face lawsuits if they employ someone that puts the public in danger because they didn't do the proper checks. Uber tries to dodge that by pretending its employees are not actually employees. Also often paying below minimum wage in the process.rcs1000 said:
I believe that is an issue in the US, where Uber provides the insurance. In the UK, it is the responsibility of the driver to get their own commercial insurance. Indeed, I've had several Uber drivers who've explained to me that they alternate between working for minicab firms (where you get prebooked Heathrow jobs) and Uber (where you get surge pricing on a Friday night).NorfolkTilIDie said:
I've got no problem with different fare limits and ratios. What I object to is Uber pretending its drivers are not really employees when they limit them from taking fares outside their system, and thus not giving the appropriate employee protections or taking liability responsibilities.rcs1000 said:
Uber drivers are subject to the same rules and regulations as any mini cab driver. In fact, the vast majority of them are ex-mini cab drivers, who prefer to take 85% of a smaller fare rather than 50% of a larger one.NorfolkTilIDie said:
There's nothing anti-business in believing minimum safety standards and pollution limits should be met.rcs1000 said:
He is anti-Uber and anti-Heathrow expansion. How much more anti-business would you like?Dixie said:
When has he ever sad he is anti-business? Absurdrcs1000 said:
Sadly, I increasingly share your view. It is incomprehensible to me that the Conservative Party has chosen someone so appallingly anti-business.AlastairMeeks said:I am currently planning to spoil my ballot paper. The whole lot of them look useless and I can't dignify any of them with my vote.
Uber has changed - for the better - more lives than any politicians has in living memory. To have the two leading candidates for mayor in hock to vested interests is utterly disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves.0 -
Even IDS, William Hague and Michael Foot led in a few polls and this poll shows a tie, not a Labour leadRoger said:So the fightback has begun! Labour now level pegging. This'll either be a wake up call or the start of a countdown to a repeat of '97.
Relying on Corbyn being unelectable is all very well if the Tories stay united under Cameron or Osborne but disunited the unattractively vain Boris Johnson and a Labour victory becomes extremely likely.0 -
Use own equipment? YesJohnLilburne said:
That's only one of the tests of being employees though, most of the other tests would fall on the side of being self-employed.NorfolkTilIDie said:
I've got no problem with different fare limits and ratios. What I object to is Uber pretending its drivers are not really employees when they limit them from taking fares outside their system, and thus not giving the appropriate employee protections or taking liability responsibilities.rcs1000 said:
Uber drivers are subject to the same rules and regulations as any mini cab driver. In fact, the vast majority of them are ex-mini cab drivers, who prefer to take 85% of a smaller fare rather than 50% of a larger one.NorfolkTilIDie said:
There's nothing anti-business in believing minimum safety standards and pollution limits should be met.rcs1000 said:
He is anti-Uber and anti-Heathrow expansion. How much more anti-business would you like?Dixie said:
When has he ever sad he is anti-business? Absurdrcs1000 said:
Sadly, I increasingly share your view. It is incomprehensible to me that the Conservative Party has chosen someone so appallingly anti-business.AlastairMeeks said:I am currently planning to spoil my ballot paper. The whole lot of them look useless and I can't dignify any of them with my vote.
Uber has changed - for the better - more lives than any politicians has in living memory. To have the two leading candidates for mayor in hock to vested interests is utterly disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Decide when and how much to work? Yes
It's pretty clear they are self employed.
Not only that, but regulation is meant to protect consumers, not vested interests. Uber - and Lyft and others - are undeniably good for consumers.0 -
OR it's a case that the people are showing their disdain of the FUD REMAIN EU referendum campaignJonathan said:
Just feels like the govts honeymoon is over and the rollercoaster of mid term expectations has begun.Roger said:So the fightback has begun! Labour now level pegging. This'll either be a wake up call or the start of a countdown to a repeat of '97.
Relying on Corbyn being unelectable is all very well if the Tories stay united under Cameron or Osborne but disunited the unattractively vain Boris Johnson and a Labour victory becomes extremely likely.
I am not sure that I agree on BoJo vs. Corbyn, but do think if Labour were to find a popular leader it could be competitive.0 -
My assessment is this:Pulpstar said:
I think keeping it works as follows:TheWhiteRabbit said:
You misunderstand, neither Pulps nor I express any confidence in Mr Wang's viewSpeedy said:
I don't need to know a Sam Wang to do the arithmetic for me.TheWhiteRabbit said:
Of course *we* know that. Did you read Wang's article?Speedy said:
Strategically it's bad news for Trump.Pulpstar said:
Strategically that's great news for Trump though (According to Sam Wang)Speedy said:Can't see how Trump wins Ohio, tactical voting has worked brilliantly for Kasich.
He needs those 66 delegates and to get rid of Kasich to demoralize the anti-Trump forces.
In a 3 way race, strategic voting for Kasich in the east and for Cruz in the west is enough to deny Trump victory as long as Trump is bellow 40%, the result will be a nasty convention in which the GOP splinters in 3 pieces since no one will get what they want, except Romney of course.
Result: winner Democrats.
It's the logical end result of a very sickly organization that the Republicans have become, in that probably G.W. Bush maybe their last president ever.
Simple math plus a simple look around the anti-Trump forces to see what they are plotting is enough.
Winning Ohio - Greater chance of hitting the 1237 threshold. Greater chance of Cruz overtaking him.
Losing Ohio - Less chance of hitting 1237. Practically no chance of Cruz overtaking him.
Winning Ohio, greater chance that Trump enemies surrender.
Losing Ohio, greater chance that Trump enemies score pyrrhic victory at convention.
Either way the chances of Trump losing Ohio are now close to 100%.
After last Saturday I gave Trump only a 33% to be the GOP nominee, with Cruz at 33% and Person X at the convention also 33%, I haven't revised it since and I don't expect it to revise it until I see signs of capitulation from the anti-Trump people.
The longer this goes on the greater the short and long term damage for the Republicans.0 -
Providing your own tools. Freedom to turn down work. Freedom to choose your customer. Accepting business risk. I am sure there are others but it's a long time since I did it for real.NorfolkTilIDie said:
Such as?JohnLilburne said:
That's only one of the tests of being employees though, most of the other tests would fall on the side of being self-employed.NorfolkTilIDie said:
I've got no problem with different fare limits and ratios. What I object to is Uber pretending its drivers are not really employees when they limit them from taking fares outside their system, and thus not giving the appropriate employee protections or taking liability responsibilities.rcs1000 said:
Uber drivers are subject to the same rules and regulations as any mini cab driver. In fact, the vast majority of them are ex-mini cab drivers, who prefer to take 85% of a smaller fare rather than 50% of a larger one.NorfolkTilIDie said:
There's nothing anti-business in believing minimum safety standards and pollution limits should be met.rcs1000 said:
He is anti-Uber and anti-Heathrow expansion. How much more anti-business would you like?Dixie said:
When has he ever sad he is anti-business? Absurdrcs1000 said:
Sadly, I increasingly share your view. It is incomprehensible to me that the Conservative Party has chosen someone so appallingly anti-business.AlastairMeeks said:I am currently planning to spoil my ballot paper. The whole lot of them look useless and I can't dignify any of them with my vote.
Uber has changed - for the better - more lives than any politicians has in living memory. To have the two leading candidates for mayor in hock to vested interests is utterly disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves.0 -
Quinnipiac Ohio
GOP
Trump 38
Kasich 38
Cruz 16
Rubio 3
Dems
Clinton 51
Sanders 460 -
A poll where Jeremy Corbyn's party could be the most popular one in the UK!
Good think polls are gack.0 -
Yep, Woking had the first purpose-built, but most sources give Liverpool the tip. It was in use before its official opening.JohnLilburne said:
Shah Jehan Mosque in Woking was opened to the public in Oct or Nov 1889 and was apparently the first purpose-built mosque in the country. It is a prominent landmark which can be seen as you approach Woking from the east by train.RodCrosby said:
Although we had the first, opened on Christmas Day 1889...perdix said:
More mosques than Liverpool I think.Roger said:Completely OT. I had reason to go to the National Media Museum in Bradford. For anyone living nearby I can really recommend it. It's supposed to be moving to the V&A which seems a shame for Bradford though several of the great and the good are trying to keep it where it is.
Bradford is not what I expected at all. A well laid out City Centre not unlike Liverpool with several galleries cafes restaurants and theaters. Interesting also the huge density of Muslims. Far greater than anywhere else I've been to in the UK. Generally a very colourful place0 -
PPP
N Carolina
GOP
Trump 44
Cruz 33
Kasich 11
Rubio 7
Dems
Clinton 56
Sanders 37
Illinois Dems
Clinton 48
Sanders 45
Missouri Dems
Sanders 47
Clinton 46
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It clearly is having an effect and I dare say the Conservatives will wake up to it ... OK, I don't know when.SMukesh said:Blue on blue having an effect?
ICM poll not worthy of own thread!!!
If we don't see some Labour leads between now and the referendum it would be quite odd. More depends on what happens after the referendum though.0 -
There's no hypocrite like a Unionist Brexiteer hypocrite.
https://twitter.com/milne25/status/709462350584217601
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Isn't the Quilliam organisation named after the founder of the first UK mosque in Liverpool?RodCrosby said:
Yep, Woking had the first purpose-built, but most sources give Liverpool the tip. It was in use before its official opening.JohnLilburne said:
Shah Jehan Mosque in Woking was opened to the public in Oct or Nov 1889 and was apparently the first purpose-built mosque in the country. It is a prominent landmark which can be seen as you approach Woking from the east by train.RodCrosby said:
Although we had the first, opened on Christmas Day 1889...perdix said:
More mosques than Liverpool I think.Roger said:Completely OT. I had reason to go to the National Media Museum in Bradford. For anyone living nearby I can really recommend it. It's supposed to be moving to the V&A which seems a shame for Bradford though several of the great and the good are trying to keep it where it is.
Bradford is not what I expected at all. A well laid out City Centre not unlike Liverpool with several galleries cafes restaurants and theaters. Interesting also the huge density of Muslims. Far greater than anywhere else I've been to in the UK. Generally a very colourful place0 -
I live a mile up the road from the National media museam,Roger is welcome to move here so we can start readdressing the white flight problem.perdix said:
More mosques than Liverpool I think.Roger said:Completely OT. I had reason to go to the National Media Museum in Bradford. For anyone living nearby I can really recommend it. It's supposed to be moving to the V&A which seems a shame for Bradford though several of the great and the good are trying to keep it where it is.
Bradford is not what I expected at all. A well laid out City Centre not unlike Liverpool with several galleries cafes restaurants and theaters. Interesting also the huge density of Muslims. Far greater than anywhere else I've been to in the UK. Generally a very colourful place
What about it roger ?0 -
Correct, Liverpool-born William Henry (Abdullah) Quilliam.Wanderer said:
Isn't the Quilliam organisation named after the founder of the first UK mosque in Liverpool?RodCrosby said:
Yep, Woking had the first purpose-built, but most sources give Liverpool the tip. It was in use before its official opening.JohnLilburne said:
Shah Jehan Mosque in Woking was opened to the public in Oct or Nov 1889 and was apparently the first purpose-built mosque in the country. It is a prominent landmark which can be seen as you approach Woking from the east by train.RodCrosby said:
Although we had the first, opened on Christmas Day 1889...perdix said:
More mosques than Liverpool I think.Roger said:Completely OT. I had reason to go to the National Media Museum in Bradford. For anyone living nearby I can really recommend it. It's supposed to be moving to the V&A which seems a shame for Bradford though several of the great and the good are trying to keep it where it is.
Bradford is not what I expected at all. A well laid out City Centre not unlike Liverpool with several galleries cafes restaurants and theaters. Interesting also the huge density of Muslims. Far greater than anywhere else I've been to in the UK. Generally a very colourful place0 -
And in today's tale of happy integration into Europe....
A 16-year-old refugee is accused of luring a young Austrian woman into a house, forcing her into a basement and attempting to rape her.
The Libyan teenager is being held by police after the 18-year-old woman was rescued from a cellar in Vienna.
A second, older woman, 20, managed to tear herself away from her attacker on Saturday and alerted police.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3491793/Libyan-migrant-16-forced-young-Austrian-woman-basement-tried-rape-her.html0 -
One of which being this morning I seem to recall.NorfolkTilIDie said:
You have done the same thing with the Leave campaign on several occasions.Roger said:
No it isn't and it's invariably from people who have pretty suspect views themselves. I don't want to get into it.Luckyguy1983 said:
It does feel like some nasty comments/individuals are being used to paint the party as racist.Roger said:
Stupidest comment of the dayPlato_Says said:Ouch
James Worron
A party that's divided on Europe vs one divided on hating Jews isn't really a contest.
Not nice when that happens is it?0 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULx9k2QkL94FrancisUrquhart said:And in today's tale of happy integration into Europe....
A 16-year-old refugee is accused of luring a young Austrian woman into a house, forcing her into a basement and attempting to rape her.
The Libyan teenager is being held by police after the 18-year-old woman was rescued from a cellar in Vienna.
A second, older woman, 20, managed to tear herself away from her attacker on Saturday and alerted police.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3491793/Libyan-migrant-16-forced-young-Austrian-woman-basement-tried-rape-her.html0 -
O/T This is appearing on my Facebook timeline this evening.
Is it a hoax?
"Nicky Morgan, (Secretary of State for Education) will be appearing on Question Time this week. I hope and pray that someone will ask her to explain the difference between a subordinating conjunction and a coordinating conjunction to a ten year old child of lower than average ability. Secondly, can she explain why they even need to know? Finally, can she pass them a tissue and reassure them that they aren't 'rubbish' just because they don't understand this irrelevant nonsense. I'm desperate to know her answers."0 -
Heaven forbid they might actually learn something at school.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:O/T This is appearing on my Facebook timeline this evening.
Is it a hoax?
"Nicky Morgan, (Secretary of State for Education) will be appearing on Question Time this week. I hope and pray that someone will ask her to explain the difference between a subordinating conjunction and a coordinating conjunction to a ten year old child of lower than average ability. Secondly, can she explain why they even need to know? Finally, can she pass them a tissue and reassure them that they aren't 'rubbish' just because they don't understand this irrelevant nonsense. I'm desperate to know her answers."0 -
I think this was raised before and it is but isn't true. I think it is something like kids should be learning this stuff, but not in that form i.e. it is more learning examples, learning what words like "because" and "although" mean and how we use them in a sentence compared to using "but" in a sentence, rather than today Johnny we are going to teach you what a subordinating conjunction is....Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:O/T This is appearing on my Facebook timeline this evening.
Is it a hoax?
"Nicky Morgan, (Secretary of State for Education) will be appearing on Question Time this week. I hope and pray that someone will ask her to explain the difference between a subordinating conjunction and a coordinating conjunction to a ten year old child of lower than average ability. Secondly, can she explain why they even need to know? Finally, can she pass them a tissue and reassure them that they aren't 'rubbish' just because they don't understand this irrelevant nonsense. I'm desperate to know her answers."
Basically somebody has taken the dry technical official documents and said look look the evil education minister wants us to teach primary school kids these complex terms, rather than wants kids to know how to correctly form common sentences that include "because" or "but" in them.0 -
They shouldn't worry, Trump will end common core.RobD said:
Heaven forbid they might actually learn something at school.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:O/T This is appearing on my Facebook timeline this evening.
Is it a hoax?
"Nicky Morgan, (Secretary of State for Education) will be appearing on Question Time this week. I hope and pray that someone will ask her to explain the difference between a subordinating conjunction and a coordinating conjunction to a ten year old child of lower than average ability. Secondly, can she explain why they even need to know? Finally, can she pass them a tissue and reassure them that they aren't 'rubbish' just because they don't understand this irrelevant nonsense. I'm desperate to know her answers."0 -
There ain't no party like an S-Club party.Theuniondivvie said:There's no hypocrite like a Unionist Brexiteer hypocrite.
https://twitter.com/milne25/status/7094623505842176010 -
I can guarantee nobody expects a ten year old to answer that, nor is there a ten year old in the country being taught that.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think this was raised before and it is but isn't true. I think it is something like kids should be learning this stuff, but not in that form i.e. it is more learning examples, learning what words like "because" and "although" mean and how we use them in a sentence compared to using "but" in a sentence, rather than today Johnny we are going to teach you what a subordinating conjunction is....Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:O/T This is appearing on my Facebook timeline this evening.
Is it a hoax?
"Nicky Morgan, (Secretary of State for Education) will be appearing on Question Time this week. I hope and pray that someone will ask her to explain the difference between a subordinating conjunction and a coordinating conjunction to a ten year old child of lower than average ability. Secondly, can she explain why they even need to know? Finally, can she pass them a tissue and reassure them that they aren't 'rubbish' just because they don't understand this irrelevant nonsense. I'm desperate to know her answers."
Basically somebody has taken the dry technical official documents and said look look the evil education minister wants us to teach primary school kids these complex terms, rather than wants kids to know how to correctly form common sentences that include because or but in them.0 -
Ah, thank you. That makes sense.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think this was raised before and it is but isn't true. I think it is something like kids should be learning this stuff, but not in that form i.e. it is more learning examples, learning what words like "because" and "although" mean and how we use them in a sentence compared to using "but" in a sentence, rather than today Johnny we are going to teach you what a subordinating conjunction is....Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:O/T This is appearing on my Facebook timeline this evening.
Is it a hoax?
"Nicky Morgan, (Secretary of State for Education) will be appearing on Question Time this week. I hope and pray that someone will ask her to explain the difference between a subordinating conjunction and a coordinating conjunction to a ten year old child of lower than average ability. Secondly, can she explain why they even need to know? Finally, can she pass them a tissue and reassure them that they aren't 'rubbish' just because they don't understand this irrelevant nonsense. I'm desperate to know her answers."
Basically somebody has taken the dry technical official documents and said look look the evil education minister wants us to teach primary school kids these complex terms, rather than wants kids to know how to correctly form common sentences that include "because" or "but" in them.0 -
I've put £1 in Shadsy's Christmas fund for "significant risks". Nothing else looked even remotely value.0
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I believe (and I might be wrong) that kids at that level aren't even taught explicitly the formal definitions of noun, verb, adjective, etc etc etc are, let alone fancier terms. That comes later on.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Ah, thank you. That makes sense.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think this was raised before and it is but isn't true. I think it is something like kids should be learning this stuff, but not in that form i.e. it is more learning examples, learning what words like "because" and "although" mean and how we use them in a sentence compared to using "but" in a sentence, rather than today Johnny we are going to teach you what a subordinating conjunction is....Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:O/T This is appearing on my Facebook timeline this evening.
Is it a hoax?
"Nicky Morgan, (Secretary of State for Education) will be appearing on Question Time this week. I hope and pray that someone will ask her to explain the difference between a subordinating conjunction and a coordinating conjunction to a ten year old child of lower than average ability. Secondly, can she explain why they even need to know? Finally, can she pass them a tissue and reassure them that they aren't 'rubbish' just because they don't understand this irrelevant nonsense. I'm desperate to know her answers."
Basically somebody has taken the dry technical official documents and said look look the evil education minister wants us to teach primary school kids these complex terms, rather than wants kids to know how to correctly form common sentences that include "because" or "but" in them.0 -
From BBC live feed of the footy...
Stephen Rutter: The only chance of seeing Danny Drinkwater at Euro 2016 is if the camera cuts to Welbeck with a bottle on the bench
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I'm lucky that I don't have kids, so have no direct experience of the current educational system.FrancisUrquhart said:
I believe (and I might be wrong) that kids at that level aren't even taught explicitly the formal definitions of noun, verb, adjective, etc etc etc are, let alone fancier terms. That comes later on.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Ah, thank you. That makes sense.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think this was raised before and it is but isn't true. I think it is something like kids should be learning this stuff, but not in that form i.e. it is more learning examples, learning what words like "because" and "although" mean and how we use them in a sentence compared to using "but" in a sentence, rather than today Johnny we are going to teach you what a subordinating conjunction is....Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:O/T This is appearing on my Facebook timeline this evening.
Is it a hoax?
"Nicky Morgan, (Secretary of State for Education) will be appearing on Question Time this week. I hope and pray that someone will ask her to explain the difference between a subordinating conjunction and a coordinating conjunction to a ten year old child of lower than average ability. Secondly, can she explain why they even need to know? Finally, can she pass them a tissue and reassure them that they aren't 'rubbish' just because they don't understand this irrelevant nonsense. I'm desperate to know her answers."
Basically somebody has taken the dry technical official documents and said look look the evil education minister wants us to teach primary school kids these complex terms, rather than wants kids to know how to correctly form common sentences that include "because" or "but" in them.
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Good knockabout stuff from John Bolton
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12193719/Ignore-Obama-Brexit-will-make-the-Special-Relationship-even-more-special.html0 -
Paddy Power have Sanders in Missouri @ 20
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And this weeks lenient sentence award goes to...
Charles Durkin, 25, was serving an eight-year sentence for robbing a Kensington jewellers, but was allowed out of Ford Open prison on the pretext of “maintaining family ties”.
He used his freedom on three occasions to meet up with seven other gang members, who carried out a four-month cash in transit robbery campaign in London and Bournemouth.
Durkin, who had previous convictions for a total of 28 crimes between 2004 and 2011, was sentenced to three years and four months in prison.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12193544/Smash-and-grab-robber-joined-gang-in-200000-crime-spree-while-on-day-release-from-prison.html0 -
come on Andros... remember your old club....0
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Well, if you don't understand the mechanics of your own language, you are going to find it harder to learn a foreign language and you are going to speak and write your own language worse than you might otherwise. Clearly, clarity of thought, clarity of expression and eloquence are no longer needed or thought part of the arsenal of the educated man or woman.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:O/T This is appearing on my Facebook timeline this evening.
Is it a hoax?
"Nicky Morgan, (Secretary of State for Education) will be appearing on Question Time this week. I hope and pray that someone will ask her to explain the difference between a subordinating conjunction and a coordinating conjunction to a ten year old child of lower than average ability. Secondly, can she explain why they even need to know? Finally, can she pass them a tissue and reassure them that they aren't 'rubbish' just because they don't understand this irrelevant nonsense. I'm desperate to know her answers."
Learning to parse sentences and paragraphs is also a useful skill if you want to become a lawyer since understanding what a particular phrase or word adds to the meaning of a sentence and what a sentence might mean were that phrase absent is one of the techniques lawyers use in their work.
Still, these are - obviously - irrelevant nonsenses.
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Yes, Uber in London is just a mini-cab company with a nice app. Uber in othe parts of the world is more ethically dubious.rcs1000 said:
I believe that is an issue in the US, where Uber provides the insurance. In the UK, it is the responsibility of the driver to get their own commercial insurance. Indeed, I've had several Uber drivers who've explained to me that they alternate between working for minicab firms (where you get prebooked Heathrow jobs) and Uber (where you get surge pricing on a Friday night).NorfolkTilIDie said:
I've got no problem with different fare limits and ratios. What I object to is Uber pretending its drivers are not really employees when they limit them from taking fares outside their system, and thus not giving the appropriate employee protections or taking liability responsibilities.rcs1000 said:
Uber drivers are subject to the same rules and regulations as any mini cab driver. In fact, the vast majority of them are ex-mini cab drivers, who prefer to take 85% of a smaller fare rather than 50% of a larger one.NorfolkTilIDie said:
There's nothing anti-business in believing minimum safety standards and pollution limits should be met.rcs1000 said:
He is anti-Uber and anti-Heathrow expansion. How much more anti-business would you like?Dixie said:
When has he ever sad he is anti-business? Absurdrcs1000 said:
Sadly, I increasingly share your view. It is incomprehensible to me that the Conservative Party has chosen someone so appallingly anti-business.AlastairMeeks said:I am currently planning to spoil my ballot paper. The whole lot of them look useless and I can't dignify any of them with my vote.
Uber has changed - for the better - more lives than any politicians has in living memory. To have the two leading candidates for mayor in hock to vested interests is utterly disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves.
AirBnB are full on scumbags.0 -
Yes, how utterly despicable to help people rent out their homes.Alistair said:
Yes, Uber in London is just a mini-cab company with a nice app. Uber in othe parts of the world is more ethically dubious.rcs1000 said:
I believe that is an issue in the US, where Uber provides the insurance. In the UK, it is the responsibility of the driver to get their own commercial insurance. Indeed, I've had several Uber drivers who've explained to me that they alternate between working for minicab firms (where you get prebooked Heathrow jobs) and Uber (where you get surge pricing on a Friday night).NorfolkTilIDie said:
I've got no problem with different fare limits and ratios. What I object to is Uber pretending its drivers are not really employees when they limit them from taking fares outside their system, and thus not giving the appropriate employee protections or taking liability responsibilities.rcs1000 said:
Uber drivers are subject to the same rules and regulations as any mini cab driver. In fact, the vast majority of them are ex-mini cab drivers, who prefer to take 85% of a smaller fare rather than 50% of a larger one.NorfolkTilIDie said:
There's nothing anti-business in believing minimum safety standards and pollution limits should be met.rcs1000 said:
He is anti-Uber and anti-Heathrow expansion. How much more anti-business would you like?Dixie said:
When has he ever sad he is anti-business? Absurdrcs1000 said:
Sadly, I increasingly share your view. It is incomprehensible to me that the Conservative Party has chosen someone so appallingly anti-business.AlastairMeeks said:I am currently planning to spoil my ballot paper. The whole lot of them look useless and I can't dignify any of them with my vote.
Uber has changed - for the better - more lives than any politicians has in living memory. To have the two leading candidates for mayor in hock to vested interests is utterly disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves.
AirBnB are full on scumbags.0 -
Bad experience with AirBnB?Alistair said:
Yes, Uber in London is just a mini-cab company with a nice app. Uber in othe parts of the world is more ethically dubious.rcs1000 said:
I believe that is an issue in the US, where Uber provides the insurance. In the UK, it is the responsibility of the driver to get their own commercial insurance. Indeed, I've had several Uber drivers who've explained to me that they alternate between working for minicab firms (where you get prebooked Heathrow jobs) and Uber (where you get surge pricing on a Friday night).NorfolkTilIDie said:
I've got no problem with different fare limits and ratios. What I object to is Uber pretending its drivers are not really employees when they limit them from taking fares outside their system, and thus not giving the appropriate employee protections or taking liability responsibilities.rcs1000 said:
Uber drivers are subject to the same rules and regulations as any mini cab driver. In fact, the vast majority of them are ex-mini cab drivers, who prefer to take 85% of a smaller fare rather than 50% of a larger one.NorfolkTilIDie said:
There's nothing anti-business in believing minimum safety standards and pollution limits should be met.rcs1000 said:
He is anti-Uber and anti-Heathrow expansion. How much more anti-business would you like?Dixie said:
When has he ever sad he is anti-business? Absurdrcs1000 said:
Sadly, I increasingly share your view. It is incomprehensible to me that the Conservative Party has chosen someone so appallingly anti-business.AlastairMeeks said:I am currently planning to spoil my ballot paper. The whole lot of them look useless and I can't dignify any of them with my vote.
Uber has changed - for the better - more lives than any politicians has in living memory. To have the two leading candidates for mayor in hock to vested interests is utterly disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves.
AirBnB are full on scumbags.0 -
Well I hope you've visited it many times. It's worth the effort. It'll be a real shame if they move the photographic part to London which needs another gallery like a hole in the head. And the centre of Bradford seems like it's been well planned. The fountains are the same as the new ones in NiceTykejohnno said:
I live a mile up the road from the National media museam,Roger is welcome to move here so we can start readdressing the white flight problem.perdix said:
More mosques than Liverpool I think.Roger said:Completely OT. I had reason to go to the National Media Museum in Bradford. For anyone living nearby I can really recommend it. It's supposed to be moving to the V&A which seems a shame for Bradford though several of the great and the good are trying to keep it where it is.
Bradford is not what I expected at all. A well laid out City Centre not unlike Liverpool with several galleries cafes restaurants and theaters. Interesting also the huge density of Muslims. Far greater than anywhere else I've been to in the UK. Generally a very colourful place
What about it roger ?0 -
AirBnB is reliant on facilitating breaking the law to make their living, they encourage it and try to cover up the evidence.rcs1000 said:
Yes, how utterly despicable to help people rent out their homes.Alistair said:
Yes, Uber in London is just a mini-cab company with a nice app. Uber in othe parts of the world is more ethically dubious.rcs1000 said:
I believe that is an issue in the US, where Uber provides the insurance. In the UK, it is the responsibility of the driver to get their own commercial insurance. Indeed, I've had several Uber drivers who've explained to me that they alternate between working for minicab firms (where you get prebooked Heathrow jobs) and Uber (where you get surge pricing on a Friday night).NorfolkTilIDie said:
I've got no problem with different fare limits and ratios. What I object to is Uber pretending its drivers are not really employees when they limit them from taking fares outside their system, and thus not giving the appropriate employee protections or taking liability responsibilities.rcs1000 said:
Uber drivers are subject to the same rules and regulations as any mini cab driver. In fact, the vast majority of them are ex-mini cab drivers, who prefer to take 85% of a smaller fare rather than 50% of a larger one.NorfolkTilIDie said:
There's nothing anti-business in believing minimum safety standards and pollution limits should be met.rcs1000 said:
He is anti-Uber and anti-Heathrow expansion. How much more anti-business would you like?Dixie said:
When has he ever sad he is anti-business? Absurdrcs1000 said:
Sadly, I increasingly share your view. It is incomprehensible to me that the Conservative Party has chosen someone so appallingly anti-business.AlastairMeeks said:I am currently planning to spoil my ballot paper. The whole lot of them look useless and I can't dignify any of them with my vote.
Uber has changed - for the better - more lives than any politicians has in living memory. To have the two leading candidates for mayor in hock to vested interests is utterly disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves.
AirBnB are full on scumbags.
Only a fraction of their business is made from their advertisment-style renting out a room to adventurous travellers. The vast majority of their business comes from whole property lets, mostly from people breaking their lease or zoning laws or both. The state of the liability insurance they offer is also incredibly dubious.
EDIT: I work at the intersection of the tech and travel industry so this isn't some techno-luddite view.0 -
I don;t use them, the litany of complaints from people who have had Professional AirBnB hosts but up multiple properties in a single apartment block to effectively turn it into an illegal hotel put me right off.FrancisUrquhart said:
Bad experience with AirBnB?Alistair said:
Yes, Uber in London is just a mini-cab company with a nice app. Uber in othe parts of the world is more ethically dubious.rcs1000 said:
I believe that is an issue in the US, where Uber provides the insurance. In the UK, it is the responsibility of the driver to get their own commercial insurance. Indeed, I've had several Uber drivers who've explained to me that they alternate between working for minicab firms (where you get prebooked Heathrow jobs) and Uber (where you get surge pricing on a Friday night).NorfolkTilIDie said:
I've got no problem with different fare limits and ratios. What I object to is Uber pretending its drivers are not really employees when they limit them from taking fares outside their system, and thus not giving the appropriate employee protections or taking liability responsibilities.rcs1000 said:
Uber drivers are subject to the same rules and regulations as any mini cab driver. In fact, the vast majority of them are ex-mini cab drivers, who prefer to take 85% of a smaller fare rather than 50% of a larger one.NorfolkTilIDie said:
There's nothing anti-business in believing minimum safety standards and pollution limits should be met.rcs1000 said:
He is anti-Uber and anti-Heathrow expansion. How much more anti-business would you like?Dixie said:
When has he ever sad he is anti-business? Absurdrcs1000 said:
Sadly, I increasingly share your view. It is incomprehensible to me that the Conservative Party has chosen someone so appallingly anti-business.AlastairMeeks said:I am currently planning to spoil my ballot paper. The whole lot of them look useless and I can't dignify any of them with my vote.
Uber has changed - for the better - more lives than any politicians has in living memory. To have the two leading candidates for mayor in hock to vested interests is utterly disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves.
AirBnB are full on scumbags.0 -
Alot of passion in Bernie, Trump heck even Ted Cruz.TheWhiteRabbit said:Paddy Power have Sanders in Missouri @ 2
Most Hillary fans seem to give her the ringing endorsement of "I'm supporting her even though she's not quite as good as Obama".0 -
Todays ICM JICIPM?0
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My prediction: Lab 40.26%, Con 38.08%, UKIP 10.12%, Green 5.11%, LD 5.03%. Overall winner: Conservative.0
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Interesting. I have used AirBnB quite a lot recently and it has always been a genuine host in the home they actually reside in, and been a very positive experience...perhaps because that is what I was looking for rather than a complete apartment. If they are paying all the tax on that income I obviously have no idea.Alistair said:
I don;t use them, the litany of complaints from people who have had Professional AirBnB hosts but up multiple properties in a single apartment block to effectively turn it into an illegal hotel put me right off.0 -
Willing buyer, willing seller. The fundamental principle of the capitalist system.Alistair said:
AirBnB is reliant on facilitating breaking the law to make their living, they encourage it and try to cover up the evidence.rcs1000 said:
Yes, how utterly despicable to help people rent out their homes.Alistair said:
Yes, Uber in London is just a mini-cab company with a nice app. Uber in othe parts of the world is more ethically dubious.rcs1000 said:
I believe that is an issue in the US, where Uber provides the insurance. In the UK, it is the responsibility of the driver to get their own commercial insurance. Indeed, I've had several Uber drivers who've explained to me that they alternate between working for minicab firms (where you get prebooked Heathrow jobs) and Uber (where you get surge pricing on a Friday night).NorfolkTilIDie said:
I've got no problem with different fare limits and ratios. What I object to is Uber pretending its drivers are not really employees when they limit them from taking fares outside their system, and thus not giving the appropriate employee protections or taking liability responsibilities.rcs1000 said:
Uber drivers are subject to the same rules and regulations as any mini cab driver. In fact, the vast majority of them are ex-mini cab drivers, who prefer to take 85% of a smaller fare rather than 50% of a larger one.NorfolkTilIDie said:
There's nothing anti-business in believing minimum safety standards and pollution limits should be met.rcs1000 said:
He is anti-Uber and anti-Heathrow expansion. How much more anti-business would you like?Dixie said:
When has he ever sad he is anti-business? Absurdrcs1000 said:
Sadly, I increasingly share your view. It is incomprehensible to me that the Conservative Party has chosen someone so appallingly anti-business.
Uber has changed - for the better - more lives than any politicians has in living memory. To have the two leading candidates for mayor in hock to vested interests is utterly disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves.
AirBnB are full on scumbags.
Only a fraction of their business is made from their advertisment-style renting out a room to adventurous travellers. The vast majority of their business comes from whole property lets, mostly from people breaking their lease or zoning laws or both. The state of the liability insurance they offer is also incredibly dubious.
EDIT: I work at the intersection of the tech and travel industry so this isn't some techno-luddite view.0 -
If AirBnB limited themselves to genuine host-in-home rentals I'd applaud what they are doing but that doesn't get them the revenue for a multi-billion dollar valuation in the startup scene.FrancisUrquhart said:
Interesting. I have used AirBnB quite a lot recently and it has always been a genuine host in the home they actually reside in, and been a very positive experience...perhaps because that is what I was looking for rather than a complete apartment. If they are paying all the tax on that income I obviously have no idea.Alistair said:
I don;t use them, the litany of complaints from people who have had Professional AirBnB hosts but up multiple properties in a single apartment block to effectively turn it into an illegal hotel put me right off.
Facilitating professional-scale (if not professionally run) property companies does.0 -
Indeed.rcs1000 said:
Willing buyer, willing seller. The fundamental principle of the capitalist system.Alistair said:
AirBnB is reliant on facilitating breaking the law to make their living, they encourage it and try to cover up the evidence.rcs1000 said:
Yes, how utterly despicable to help people rent out their homes.Alistair said:
Yes, Uber in London is just a mini-cab company with a nice app. Uber in othe parts of the world is more ethically dubious.rcs1000 said:
I believe that is an issue in the US, where Uber provides the insurance. In the UK, it is the responsibility of the driver to get their own commercial insurance. Indeed, I've had several Uber drivers who've explained to me that they alternate between working for minicab firms (where you get prebooked Heathrow jobs) and Uber (where you get surge pricing on a Friday night).NorfolkTilIDie said:
I've got no problem with different fare limits and ratios. What I object to is Uber pretending its drivers are not really employees when they limit them from taking fares outside their system, and thus not giving the appropriate employee protections or taking liability responsibilities.rcs1000 said:
...NorfolkTilIDie said:
There's nothing anti-business in believing minimum safety standards and pollution limits should be met.rcs1000 said:
He is anti-Uber and anti-Heathrow expansion. How much more anti-business would you like?Dixie said:
When has he ever sad he is anti-business? Absurdrcs1000 said:
Sadly, I increasingly share your view. It is incomprehensible to me that the Conservative Party has chosen someone so appallingly anti-business.
AirBnB are full on scumbags.
Only a fraction of their business is made from their advertisment-style renting out a room to adventurous travellers. The vast majority of their business comes from whole property lets, mostly from people breaking their lease or zoning laws or both. The state of the liability insurance they offer is also incredibly dubious.
EDIT: I work at the intersection of the tech and travel industry so this isn't some techno-luddite view.
Tech is helping the consumer overcome the (often restrictive) regulation that vested interests have encouraged lawmakers to pass since WW2.0 -
It would be nice if they taught them that some words start with capital letters.TheWhiteRabbit said:
I can guarantee nobody expects a ten year old to answer that, nor is there a ten year old in the country being taught that.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think this was raised before and it is but isn't true. I think it is something like kids should be learning this stuff, but not in that form i.e. it is more learning examples, learning what words like "because" and "although" mean and how we use them in a sentence compared to using "but" in a sentence, rather than today Johnny we are going to teach you what a subordinating conjunction is....Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:O/T This is appearing on my Facebook timeline this evening.
Is it a hoax?
"Nicky Morgan, (Secretary of State for Education) will be appearing on Question Time this week. I hope and pray that someone will ask her to explain the difference between a subordinating conjunction and a coordinating conjunction to a ten year old child of lower than average ability. Secondly, can she explain why they even need to know? Finally, can she pass them a tissue and reassure them that they aren't 'rubbish' just because they don't understand this irrelevant nonsense. I'm desperate to know her answers."
Basically somebody has taken the dry technical official documents and said look look the evil education minister wants us to teach primary school kids these complex terms, rather than wants kids to know how to correctly form common sentences that include because or but in them.0 -
Looks like there is a poll by ORB which has Leave ahead
https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/7094962330905518080 -
If they want to get a job in marketing these days, it's best that they have no idea that capital letters even exist.JohnLilburne said:
It would be nice if they taught them that some words start with capital letters.TheWhiteRabbit said:
I can guarantee nobody expects a ten year old to answer that, nor is there a ten year old in the country being taught that.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think this was raised before and it is but isn't true. I think it is something like kids should be learning this stuff, but not in that form i.e. it is more learning examples, learning what words like "because" and "although" mean and how we use them in a sentence compared to using "but" in a sentence, rather than today Johnny we are going to teach you what a subordinating conjunction is....Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:O/T This is appearing on my Facebook timeline this evening.
Is it a hoax?
"Nicky Morgan, (Secretary of State for Education) will be appearing on Question Time this week. I hope and pray that someone will ask her to explain the difference between a subordinating conjunction and a coordinating conjunction to a ten year old child of lower than average ability. Secondly, can she explain why they even need to know? Finally, can she pass them a tissue and reassure them that they aren't 'rubbish' just because they don't understand this irrelevant nonsense. I'm desperate to know her answers."
Basically somebody has taken the dry technical official documents and said look look the evil education minister wants us to teach primary school kids these complex terms, rather than wants kids to know how to correctly form common sentences that include because or but in them.0 -
One of the sons of bradford joins the protest.Roger said:
Well I hope you've visited it many times. It's worth the effort. It'll be a real shame if they move the photographic part to London which needs another gallery like a hole in the head. And the centre of Bradford seems like it's been well planned. The fountains are the same as the new ones in NiceTykejohnno said:
I live a mile up the road from the National media museam,Roger is welcome to move here so we can start readdressing the white flight problem.perdix said:
More mosques than Liverpool I think.Roger said:Completely OT. I had reason to go to the National Media Museum in Bradford. For anyone living nearby I can really recommend it. It's supposed to be moving to the V&A which seems a shame for Bradford though several of the great and the good are trying to keep it where it is.
Bradford is not what I expected at all. A well laid out City Centre not unlike Liverpool with several galleries cafes restaurants and theaters. Interesting also the huge density of Muslims. Far greater than anywhere else I've been to in the UK. Generally a very colourful place
What about it roger ?
David Hockney and Mike Leigh back Bradford photography protest
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/06/bradford-photography-collection-national-media-museum-letter
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And that sentences don't all end in LOL.JohnLilburne said:
It would be nice if they taught them that some words start with capital letters.TheWhiteRabbit said:
I can guarantee nobody expects a ten year old to answer that, nor is there a ten year old in the country being taught that.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think this was raised before and it is but isn't true. I think it is something like kids should be learning this stuff, but not in that form i.e. it is more learning examples, learning what words like "because" and "although" mean and how we use them in a sentence compared to using "but" in a sentence, rather than today Johnny we are going to teach you what a subordinating conjunction is....Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:O/T This is appearing on my Facebook timeline this evening.
Is it a hoax?
"Nicky Morgan, (Secretary of State for Education) will be appearing on Question Time this week. I hope and pray that someone will ask her to explain the difference between a subordinating conjunction and a coordinating conjunction to a ten year old child of lower than average ability. Secondly, can she explain why they even need to know? Finally, can she pass them a tissue and reassure them that they aren't 'rubbish' just because they don't understand this irrelevant nonsense. I'm desperate to know her answers."
Basically somebody has taken the dry technical official documents and said look look the evil education minister wants us to teach primary school kids these complex terms, rather than wants kids to know how to correctly form common sentences that include because or but in them.
(Or start with 'and' - LOL)0 -
I've rented whole properties via AirBnB and have had very good experiences. YMMV I guess.Alistair said:
If AirBnB limited themselves to genuine host-in-home rentals I'd applaud what they are doing but that doesn't get them the revenue for a multi-billion dollar valuation in the startup scene.FrancisUrquhart said:
Interesting. I have used AirBnB quite a lot recently and it has always been a genuine host in the home they actually reside in, and been a very positive experience...perhaps because that is what I was looking for rather than a complete apartment. If they are paying all the tax on that income I obviously have no idea.Alistair said:
I don;t use them, the litany of complaints from people who have had Professional AirBnB hosts but up multiple properties in a single apartment block to effectively turn it into an illegal hotel put me right off.
Facilitating professional-scale (if not professionally run) property companies does.0 -
The Brexit campaign is currently more likely to win this June's EU referendum because its supporters are more motivated, an exclusive poll for The Daily Telegraph which has been analysed by Sir Lynton Crosby reveals today.
In his new column for this newspaper, the electoral strategist who helped secure David Cameron's shock win last year, says that whichever campaign motivates people to turn out and vote is likely to win......
.....Today's ORB poll finds that without taking into account people’s likelihood to vote, the campaigns are virtually tied, with remain on 47 per cent and leave on 48 per cent.
However, when likelihood to vote is taken into account, the leave campaign would win on 52 per cent of the vote, with remain trailing on 44 per cent.
It also reveals that one third of undecided voters (32 per cent) say their “biggest hesitation” in backing the remain campaign is the “potential for uncontrolled or increased immigration” in the EU.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12193963/EU-referendum-Exclusive-Telegraph-poll-says-Leave-campaign-most-likely-to-win-in-June.html0 -
LOL.SandyRentool said:
And that sentences don't all end in LOL.JohnLilburne said:
It would be nice if they taught them that some words start with capital letters.TheWhiteRabbit said:
I can guarantee nobody expects a ten year old to answer that, nor is there a ten year old in the country being taught that.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think this was raised before and it is but isn't true. I think it is something like kids should be learning this stuff, but not in that form i.e. it is more learning examples, learning what words like "because" and "although" mean and how we use them in a sentence compared to using "but" in a sentence, rather than today Johnny we are going to teach you what a subordinating conjunction is....Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:O/T This is appearing on my Facebook timeline this evening.
Is it a hoax?
"Nicky Morgan, (Secretary of State for Education) will be appearing on Question Time this week. I hope and pray that someone will ask her to explain the difference between a subordinating conjunction and a coordinating conjunction to a ten year old child of lower than average ability. Secondly, can she explain why they even need to know? Finally, can she pass them a tissue and reassure them that they aren't 'rubbish' just because they don't understand this irrelevant nonsense. I'm desperate to know her answers."
Basically somebody has taken the dry technical official documents and said look look the evil education minister wants us to teach primary school kids these complex terms, rather than wants kids to know how to correctly form common sentences that include because or but in them.
(Or start with 'and' - LOL)0 -
I have not rented through AirBnB but have a friend who rents out part of his property and is generally very pleased. It is an architectural gem so tends to attract people interested in the architecture.Alistair said:
Would people rent AirBnB Properties if they knew they were being rented illegally and that the landlord may not have public liability insurance?rcs1000 said:
Willing buyer, willing seller. The fundamental principle of the capitalist system.
What I would be concerned about is (a) getting what is promised; (b) the flat is safe i.e. no dodgy boilers, fire hazards etc. I quite like hotels and don't really want the bother of having to keep house in any way when on holiday - I do quite enough of that at home - but each to their own.
I would not rent out my own home to strangers.
Still, this seems to me to be a trivial issue for London. Housing for Londoners is of far more importance than the choice of accommodation available to tourists.
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Nothing that we don't know already.TheScreamingEagles said:The Brexit campaign is currently more likely to win this June's EU referendum because its supporters are more motivated, an exclusive poll for The Daily Telegraph which has been analysed by Sir Lynton Crosby reveals today.
In his new column for this newspaper, the electoral strategist who helped secure David Cameron's shock win last year, says that whichever campaign motivates people to turn out and vote is likely to win......
.....Today's ORB poll finds that without taking into account people’s likelihood to vote, the campaigns are virtually tied, with remain on 47 per cent and leave on 48 per cent.
However, when likelihood to vote is taken into account, the leave campaign would win on 52 per cent of the vote, with remain trailing on 44 per cent.
It also reveals that one third of undecided voters (32 per cent) say their “biggest hesitation” in backing the remain campaign is the “potential for uncontrolled or increased immigration” in the EU.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12193963/EU-referendum-Exclusive-Telegraph-poll-says-Leave-campaign-most-likely-to-win-in-June.html0 -
Drinkwater and Mark Noble are both much better than Jordan HendersonFrancisUrquhart said:From BBC live feed of the footy...
Stephen Rutter: The only chance of seeing Danny Drinkwater at Euro 2016 is if the camera cuts to Welbeck with a bottle on the bench
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Apart from in the middle of company names for some reason, especially technology companies.rcs1000 said:
If they want to get a job in marketing these days, it's best that they have no idea that capital letters even exist.JohnLilburne said:
It would be nice if they taught them that some words start with capital letters.TheWhiteRabbit said:
I can guarantee nobody expects a ten year old to answer that, nor is there a ten year old in the country being taught that.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think this was raised before and it is but isn't true. I think it is something like kids should be learning this stuff, but not in that form i.e. it is more learning examples, learning what words like "because" and "although" mean and how we use them in a sentence compared to using "but" in a sentence, rather than today Johnny we are going to teach you what a subordinating conjunction is....Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:O/T This is appearing on my Facebook timeline this evening.
Is it a hoax?
"Nicky Morgan, (Secretary of State for Education) will be appearing on Question Time this week. I hope and pray that someone will ask her to explain the difference between a subordinating conjunction and a coordinating conjunction to a ten year old child of lower than average ability. Secondly, can she explain why they even need to know? Finally, can she pass them a tissue and reassure them that they aren't 'rubbish' just because they don't understand this irrelevant nonsense. I'm desperate to know her answers."
Basically somebody has taken the dry technical official documents and said look look the evil education minister wants us to teach primary school kids these complex terms, rather than wants kids to know how to correctly form common sentences that include because or but in them.0 -
There are also basic regulations to curb abuses and market failures, and to make sure people are appropriately liable for their business. It is not anti-business to make sure reasonable regulatioms are enforced. We're not the USA quite yet. I find it odd that some people are more disgusted by arguments to enforce basic regulations than, say, a graduate going hungry because he hasn't been able to find a job right away.rcs1000 said:
Willing buyer, willing seller. The fundamental principle of the capitalist system.Alistair said:
AirBnB is reliant on facilitating breaking the law to make their living, they encourage it and try to cover up the evidence.rcs1000 said:
Yes, how utterly despicable to help people rent out their homes.Alistair said:
Yes, Uber in London is just a mini-cab company with a nice app. Uber in othe parts of the world is more ethically dubious.rcs1000 said:
I believe that is an issue in the US, where Uber provides the insurance. In the UK, it is the responsibility of the driver to get their own commercial insurance. Indeed, I've g on a Friday night).NorfolkTilIDie said:
I've got no problem with different fare limits and ratios. sponsibilities.rcs1000 said:
Uber drivers are subject to the same rules and regulations as any mini cab driver. In fact, the vast majority of them are ex-mini cab drivers, who prefer to take 85% of a smaller fare rather than 50% of a larger one.NorfolkTilIDie said:
There's nothing anti-business in believing minimum safety standards and pollution limits should be met.rcs1000 said:
He is anti-Uber and anti-Heathrow expansion. How much more anti-business would you like?Dixie said:
When has he ever sad he is anti-business? Absurdrcs1000 said:
Sadly, I increasingly share your view. It is incomprehensible to me that the Conservative Party has chosen someone so appallingly anti-business.
Uber has changed - for the better - more lives than any politicians ves.
AirBnB are full on scumbags.
Only a fraction of their business is made from their advertisment-style renting out a room to adventurous travellers. The vast majority of their business comes from whole property lets, mostly from people breaking their lease or zoning laws or both. The state of the liability insurance they offer is also incredibly dubious.
EDIT: I work at the intersection of the tech and travel industry so this isn't some techno-luddite view.0 -
Don't you think that tech companies are themselves turning into vested interests seeking to get laws passed to help them at the expense of others?Mortimer said:
Indeed.rcs1000 said:
Willing buyer, willing seller. The fundamental principle of the capitalist system.Alistair said:
AirBnB is reliant on facilitating breaking the law to make their living, they encourage it and try to cover up the evidence.rcs1000 said:
Yes, how utterly despicable to help people rent out their homes.Alistair said:
Yes, Uber in London is just a mini-cab company with a nice app. Uber in othe parts of the world is more ethically dubious.rcs1000 said:
I believe that is an issue in the US, where Uber provides the insurance. In the UK, it is the responsibility of the driver to get their own commercial insurance. Indeed, I've had several Uber drivers who've explained to me that they alternate between working for minicab firms (where you get prebooked Heathrow jobs) and Uber (where you get surge pricing on a Friday night).NorfolkTilIDie said:
I've got no problem with different fare limits and ratios. What I object to is Uber pretending its drivers are not really employees when they limit them from taking fares outside their system, and thus not giving the appropriate employee protections or taking liability responsibilities.rcs1000 said:
...NorfolkTilIDie said:
AirBnB are full on scumbags.
Only a fraction of their business is made from their advertisment-style renting out a room to adventurous travellers. The vast majority of their business comes from whole property lets, mostly from people breaking their lease or zoning laws or both. The state of the liability insurance they offer is also incredibly dubious.
EDIT: I work at the intersection of the tech and travel industry so this isn't some techno-luddite view.
Tech is helping the consumer overcome the (often restrictive) regulation that vested interests have encouraged lawmakers to pass since WW2.
Tech is useful but tech companies - whatever PR guff they come out with - are not altruistic charities. They are in it for themselves and only themselves.
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I have a feeling some of these things will end in tears, AirBnB, Uber, peer lending.Cyclefree said:
I have not rented through AirBnB but have a friend who rents out part of his property and is generally very pleased. It is an architectural gem so tends to attract people interested in the architecture.Alistair said:
Would people rent AirBnB Properties if they knew they were being rented illegally and that the landlord may not have public liability insurance?rcs1000 said:
Willing buyer, willing seller. The fundamental principle of the capitalist system.
What I would be concerned about is (a) getting what is promised; (b) the flat is safe i.e. no dodgy boilers, fire hazards etc. I quite like hotels and don't really want the bother of having to keep house in any way when on holiday - I do quite enough of that at home - but each to their own.
I would not rent out my own home to strangers.
Still, this seems to me to be a trivial issue for London. Housing for Londoners is of far more importance than the choice of accommodation available to tourists.
Or maybe I'm just old.0 -
Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB
ORB online reporting that LEAVE 8% ahead when likelihood to vote taken into account. 1% when it isn't0 -
Sky: NC authorities investigating whether "Trump incited a riot"...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/after-punching-incident-nc-sheriff-ponders-inciting-a-riot-charge-against-trump/2016/03/14/2f300ec6-ea13-11e5-bc08-3e03a5b41910_story.html0 -
"It also reveals that one third of undecided voters (32 per cent) say their “biggest hesitation” in backing the remain campaign is the “potential for uncontrolled or increased immigration” in the EU."Speedy said:
Nothing that we don't know already.TheScreamingEagles said:The Brexit campaign is currently more likely to win this June's EU referendum because its supporters are more motivated, an exclusive poll for The Daily Telegraph which has been analysed by Sir Lynton Crosby reveals today.
In his new column for this newspaper, the electoral strategist who helped secure David Cameron's shock win last year, says that whichever campaign motivates people to turn out and vote is likely to win......
.....Today's ORB poll finds that without taking into account people’s likelihood to vote, the campaigns are virtually tied, with remain on 47 per cent and leave on 48 per cent.
However, when likelihood to vote is taken into account, the leave campaign would win on 52 per cent of the vote, with remain trailing on 44 per cent.
It also reveals that one third of undecided voters (32 per cent) say their “biggest hesitation” in backing the remain campaign is the “potential for uncontrolled or increased immigration” in the EU.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12193963/EU-referendum-Exclusive-Telegraph-poll-says-Leave-campaign-most-likely-to-win-in-June.html
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Peer to peer lending has already been warned about. It is likely that any new development will lead to good and bad stuff happening. New ways of using assets and using technology strikes me, on the whole, as a good thing. It's the whole moral self-righteous guff that goes with it that is so nauseating, as well as the hypocrisy. Tech barons are as good at sweating their assets, whether this be people, techie stuff or consumers' data as any red-in-tooth-and-claw 19th century railway baron.nigel4england said:
I have a feeling some of these things will end in tears, AirBnB, Uber, peer lending.Cyclefree said:
I have not rented through AirBnB but have a friend who rents out part of his property and is generally very pleased. It is an architectural gem so tends to attract people interested in the architecture.Alistair said:
Would people rent AirBnB Properties if they knew they were being rented illegally and that the landlord may not have public liability insurance?rcs1000 said:
Willing buyer, willing seller. The fundamental principle of the capitalist system.
What I would be concerned about is (a) getting what is promised; (b) the flat is safe i.e. no dodgy boilers, fire hazards etc. I quite like hotels and don't really want the bother of having to keep house in any way when on holiday - I do quite enough of that at home - but each to their own.
I would not rent out my own home to strangers.
Still, this seems to me to be a trivial issue for London. Housing for Londoners is of far more importance than the choice of accommodation available to tourists.
Or maybe I'm just old.
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Yet the average vote here is 58-42 in favour of REMAIN isn't it?Speedy said:
Nothing that we don't know already.TheScreamingEagles said:The Brexit campaign is currently more likely to win this June's EU referendum because its supporters are more motivated, an exclusive poll for The Daily Telegraph which has been analysed by Sir Lynton Crosby reveals today.
In his new column for this newspaper, the electoral strategist who helped secure David Cameron's shock win last year, says that whichever campaign motivates people to turn out and vote is likely to win......
.....Today's ORB poll finds that without taking into account people’s likelihood to vote, the campaigns are virtually tied, with remain on 47 per cent and leave on 48 per cent.
However, when likelihood to vote is taken into account, the leave campaign would win on 52 per cent of the vote, with remain trailing on 44 per cent.
It also reveals that one third of undecided voters (32 per cent) say their “biggest hesitation” in backing the remain campaign is the “potential for uncontrolled or increased immigration” in the EU.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12193963/EU-referendum-Exclusive-Telegraph-poll-says-Leave-campaign-most-likely-to-win-in-June.html
And since REMAIN cannot do anything about immigration (not that it is likely that LEAVE could - but they can try) that could be another 5% onto LEAVE.
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@DanHannanMEP Daniel Hannan Retweeted Ryan Coetzee
Ladies and gentlemen, the chief strategist at the remain campaign...
Ryan Coetzee @RyanCoetzee
@DanHannanMEP Your tweet is racist, bluntly. And I am not some sort of #mustfall lefty, Dan. But it really is.
All because of this tweet ?
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@DanHannanMEP
Today is #CommonwealthDay - a day to celebrate the family of English-speaking nations who have fought together for freedom
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Its amazing to think how basic maths methods could engender such a political divide as is happening in the US right now. I never thought I would see that day for sure! The example of how to do 43 -13 using the common core method is such absolute baloney it beggars belief.Pulpstar said:
They shouldn't worry, Trump will end common core.RobD said:
Heaven forbid they might actually learn something at school.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:O/T This is appearing on my Facebook timeline this evening.
Is it a hoax?
"Nicky Morgan, (Secretary of State for Education) will be appearing on Question Time this week. I hope and pray that someone will ask her to explain the difference between a subordinating conjunction and a coordinating conjunction to a ten year old child of lower than average ability. Secondly, can she explain why they even need to know? Finally, can she pass them a tissue and reassure them that they aren't 'rubbish' just because they don't understand this irrelevant nonsense. I'm desperate to know her answers."0 -
Guess which paper won't be shown on Sky and BBC press review - starting now.TheScreamingEagles said:Looks like there is a poll by ORB which has Leave ahead
https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/7094962330905518080 -
Is India an English-speaking nation?Tykejohnno said:Daniel HannanVerified account
@DanHannanMEP Daniel Hannan Retweeted Ryan Coetzee
Ladies and gentlemen, the chief strategist at the remain campaign...
Ryan Coetzee @RyanCoetzee
@DanHannanMEP Your tweet is racist, bluntly. And I am not some sort of #mustfall lefty, Dan. But it really is.
All because of this tweet ?
Daniel HannanVerified account
@DanHannanMEP
Today is #CommonwealthDay - a day to celebrate the family of English-speaking nations who have fought together for freedom
Never mind, if someone calls it racist then PB Comments will be for it0 -
I'm looking at the 538 delegate tracker to see how losing Ohio impacts Trump.
To make up for the shortfall of the 66 Ohio delegates, Trump has to get more than 60% in N.Carolina + all of N.Mariana Islands delegates+ all of Missouri delegates+ all of Illinois delegates. An impossible task.
At present course he is going to come tomorrow out around 50 delegates short and he only has a 16 delegate margin.
So he will start to fall behind his targets for 1237 delegates, and that will only grow for the next month since he won't win any delegates from Utah, Colorado and N.Dakota.
By April 16th Trump will be around 60 delegates short of his targets for a majority, he will need to make up that difference by winning almost all congressional districts in N.Y and Pennsylvania.
Failing that, his next chance will the last primary on June 7th in California, last poll there has Trump leading by 16:
http://capoliticalreviewcom.c.presscdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/16-CA-GOP-Presidential-Primary-Poll-March.pdf
Trump will face a difficult month from now till April 19th when N.Y. votes.0 -
That's what happens when you run a negative campaign based on fear. (Personally I still haven't decided which way to vote).Tykejohnno said:Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB
ORB online reporting that LEAVE 8% ahead when likelihood to vote taken into account. 1% when it isn't0 -
As one of the few on here who has predicted a Leave win, I reckon Lynton Crosby is spot on. It's what I've thought for ages: Leavers are far more motivated to go out and vote. No-one outside the LibDems is positively fond of the EU. At least six or seven million hate it.0
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ORB: with likelihood to vote it's 46% Remain, 54% Leave.0
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Trump's making sure that won't fly though. Just in case...Pulpstar said:
Haven't heard anything in North Carolina.RodCrosby said:Sky: NC authorities investigating whether "Trump incited a riot"....
First the Tampa message, now this. No coincidence.
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Dearie me!EPG said:
Is India an English-speaking nation?Tykejohnno said:Daniel HannanVerified account
@DanHannanMEP Daniel Hannan Retweeted Ryan Coetzee
Ladies and gentlemen, the chief strategist at the remain campaign...
Ryan Coetzee @RyanCoetzee
@DanHannanMEP Your tweet is racist, bluntly. And I am not some sort of #mustfall lefty, Dan. But it really is.
All because of this tweet ?
Daniel HannanVerified account
@DanHannanMEP
Today is #CommonwealthDay - a day to celebrate the family of English-speaking nations who have fought together for freedom
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Leave should commission a poll of migrants in Germany and ask how many would come to the UK if they could. Even if its only 10%, that would be a hundred thousand or so and get some headlines. Remain have played dirty as hell, so Leave should not have any qualms.isam said:
"It also reveals that one third of undecided voters (32 per cent) say their “biggest hesitation” in backing the remain campaign is the “potential for uncontrolled or increased immigration” in the EU."Speedy said:
Nothing that we don't know already.TheScreamingEagles said:The Brexit campaign is currently more likely to win this June's EU referendum because its supporters are more motivated, an exclusive poll for The Daily Telegraph which has been analysed by Sir Lynton Crosby reveals today.
In his new column for this newspaper, the electoral strategist who helped secure David Cameron's shock win last year, says that whichever campaign motivates people to turn out and vote is likely to win......
.....Today's ORB poll finds that without taking into account people’s likelihood to vote, the campaigns are virtually tied, with remain on 47 per cent and leave on 48 per cent.
However, when likelihood to vote is taken into account, the leave campaign would win on 52 per cent of the vote, with remain trailing on 44 per cent.
It also reveals that one third of undecided voters (32 per cent) say their “biggest hesitation” in backing the remain campaign is the “potential for uncontrolled or increased immigration” in the EU.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12193963/EU-referendum-Exclusive-Telegraph-poll-says-Leave-campaign-most-likely-to-win-in-June.html
Well I never
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Anglophobia reemerging after very long dormancy in US politics.RodCrosby said:0
