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I already know!Tykejohnno said:
Proberly what we think nigel ;-)nigel4england said:
Wonder what she thinks of Cameron and his scaremongering bullshit.Tykejohnno said:
Especially calamity ;-)rcs1000 said:
Few people are coming out of this with their reputations enhanced.FrancisUrquhart said:
This is all getting a bit out of hand.Tykejohnno said:Cleggsit sparked Brexit: Queen not amused by Nick’s ‘sermon’
EXCLUSIVE: Lib Dem leader’s Euro lecture left relationship with Her Majesty at an all-time low
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/6998250/Queen-blasted-Clegg-over-Euro-sermon.html
I don't want to get banned by telling you ;-)
I reckon that privately she despairs of the gutless politicians that have led us down this path.0 -
Who knows, her advice may have been heeded more often than not.GIN1138 said:
LOL!Tykejohnno said:Cleggsit sparked Brexit: Queen not amused by Nick’s ‘sermon’
EXCLUSIVE: Lib Dem leader’s Euro lecture left relationship with Her Majesty at an all-time low
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/6998250/Queen-blasted-Clegg-over-Euro-sermon.html
How on earth has HMQ put up with all these dreadful politicians over the 60+ years?
In the last few years she's has the self absorbed Blair's, neurotic Brown, dodgy Dave, Calamity Clegg and that guy Ed somebody... Oh and now she's got totally bonkers Jezza to deal with as well.
How does the woman do it?0 -
LOLGIN1138 said:
LOL!Tykejohnno said:Cleggsit sparked Brexit: Queen not amused by Nick’s ‘sermon’
EXCLUSIVE: Lib Dem leader’s Euro lecture left relationship with Her Majesty at an all-time low
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/6998250/Queen-blasted-Clegg-over-Euro-sermon.html
How on earth has HMQ put up with all these dreadful politicians over the 60+ years?
In the last few years she's had the self absorbed Blair's, neurotic Brown, dodgy Dave, Calamity Clegg and that guy Ed somebody... Oh and now she's got totally bonkers Jezza to deal with as well.
How does the woman do it?0 -
She gets plenty of practice given who her husband and relatives are...GIN1138 said:
LOL!Tykejohnno said:Cleggsit sparked Brexit: Queen not amused by Nick’s ‘sermon’
EXCLUSIVE: Lib Dem leader’s Euro lecture left relationship with Her Majesty at an all-time low
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/6998250/Queen-blasted-Clegg-over-Euro-sermon.html
How on earth has HMQ put up with all these dreadful politicians over the 60+ years?
In the last few years she's had the self absorbed Blair's, neurotic Brown, dodgy Dave, Calamity Clegg and that guy Ed somebody... Oh and now she's got totally bonkers Jezza to deal with as well.
How does the woman do it?0 -
Proberly stronger wording from Philip ;-)nigel4england said:
I already know!Tykejohnno said:
Proberly what we think nigel ;-)nigel4england said:
Wonder what she thinks of Cameron and his scaremongering bullshit.Tykejohnno said:
Especially calamity ;-)rcs1000 said:
Few people are coming out of this with their reputations enhanced.FrancisUrquhart said:
This is all getting a bit out of hand.Tykejohnno said:Cleggsit sparked Brexit: Queen not amused by Nick’s ‘sermon’
EXCLUSIVE: Lib Dem leader’s Euro lecture left relationship with Her Majesty at an all-time low
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/6998250/Queen-blasted-Clegg-over-Euro-sermon.html
I don't want to get banned by telling you ;-)
I reckon that privately she despairs of the gutless politicians that have led us down this path.0 -
er kommt!
er kommt!0 -
It's hilarious to think that a couple of weeks ago the GOP establishment thought that an intervention by Romney and some jokes from Rubio would stop all of this.RodCrosby said:er kommt!
er kommt!0 -
Sanders just said that unemployment of African American "kids" is 51%. Not sure what he is defining kids as, but is that in the ballpark?0
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Trump: "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbour? Hell, Noooooo!"williamglenn said:
It's hilarious to think that a couple of weeks ago the GOP establishment thought that an intervention by Romney and some jokes from Rubio would stop all of this.RodCrosby said:er kommt!
er kommt!
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Countdown to "Get'em Out"....5...4....3....0
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baseball cap.0
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Stuck at the airport on my phone, feel like I'm missing all the fun.FrancisUrquhart said:Countdown to "Get'em Out"....5...4....3....
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"It's a guy, but I love you. I love you"
Pink vote sewn up.0 -
This might help Francis -FrancisUrquhart said:Sanders just said that unemployment of African American "kids" is 51%. Not sure what he is defining kids as, but is that in the ballpark?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jul/13/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-says-real-unemployment-rate-african/0 -
So cliff notes is basally not 51% (not unless you formulate it in a particular way with caveats), but African American's have a higher unemployment rate.Tykejohnno said:
This might help Francis -FrancisUrquhart said:Sanders just said that unemployment of African American "kids" is 51%. Not sure what he is defining kids as, but is that in the ballpark?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jul/13/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-says-real-unemployment-rate-african/
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"No teleprompters. No teleprompters. No reading speeches. Speak from the heart. And from the head!"0
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If we vote to leave the EU I wonder what sort of trade deal we would get from a President Trump.0
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Trump is out with the WWE baddie routine again.0
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PB gets a mention.
"Some of these pundits..."
"Now they're saying: 'how do we stop him?'"0 -
Back to this morning's Illinois Trump.0
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That's easy: we would get something that looked like the Trans-Pacific Partnership. This would mean we would be treaty bound to keep our intellectual property laws in lock-step with the US, and that the UK government's decisions would be subject to appeal under ISDS provisions in US based tribunals.MP_SE said:If we vote to leave the EU I wonder what sort of trade deal we would get from a President Trump.
The US doesn't play fair when it comes to trade agreements.0 -
By the way, the economic data - from everywhere on planet Earth except China - has been staggeringly good in the last week. Industrial and manufacturing orders last week blew away expectations in Europe. And today Japan machinery orders - an excellent proxy for capital expenditure - which were expected to fall 3% year-over-year, rose by 8%.
Maybe those negative interest rates in Japan are working.0 -
Wearing a suit with a baseball cap certainly makes an impression, albeit a slightly odd one.0
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Worse than this?AndyJS said:Wearing a suit with a baseball cap certainly makes an impression, albeit a slightly odd one.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02975/hague-cap_2975124k.jpg0 -
capital spending includes govt spending?rcs1000 said:By the way, the economic data - from everywhere on planet Earth except China - has been staggeringly good in the last week. Industrial and manufacturing orders last week blew away expectations in Europe. And today Japan machinery orders - an excellent proxy for capital expenditure - which were expected to fall 3% year-over-year, rose by 8%.
Maybe those negative interest rates in Japan are working.
living here it is truly amazing to see the amount of infrastructure/pork barrel spending (depending on yr point of view). No place too inaccessible to whack a viaduct over, for the purpose of transporting daikon or whatever. Must be great if you are a civil engineer...
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Where is "here"?dugarbandier said:
capital spending includes govt spending?rcs1000 said:By the way, the economic data - from everywhere on planet Earth except China - has been staggeringly good in the last week. Industrial and manufacturing orders last week blew away expectations in Europe. And today Japan machinery orders - an excellent proxy for capital expenditure - which were expected to fall 3% year-over-year, rose by 8%.
Maybe those negative interest rates in Japan are working.
living here it is truly amazing to see the amount of infrastructure/pork barrel spending (depending on yr point of view). No place too inaccessible to whack a viaduct over, for the purpose of transporting daikon or whatever. Must be great if you are a civil engineer...0 -
shizuoka prefecture, japanFrancisUrquhart said:
Where is "here"?dugarbandier said:
capital spending includes govt spending?rcs1000 said:By the way, the economic data - from everywhere on planet Earth except China - has been staggeringly good in the last week. Industrial and manufacturing orders last week blew away expectations in Europe. And today Japan machinery orders - an excellent proxy for capital expenditure - which were expected to fall 3% year-over-year, rose by 8%.
Maybe those negative interest rates in Japan are working.
living here it is truly amazing to see the amount of infrastructure/pork barrel spending (depending on yr point of view). No place too inaccessible to whack a viaduct over, for the purpose of transporting daikon or whatever. Must be great if you are a civil engineer...
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No need to apologize, I presumed you meant Japan, just wanted to clarify, as PB seems to have posters located all over the globe and is hard to keep track.dugarbandier said:
shizuoka prefecture, japanFrancisUrquhart said:
Where is "here"?dugarbandier said:
capital spending includes govt spending?rcs1000 said:By the way, the economic data - from everywhere on planet Earth except China - has been staggeringly good in the last week. Industrial and manufacturing orders last week blew away expectations in Europe. And today Japan machinery orders - an excellent proxy for capital expenditure - which were expected to fall 3% year-over-year, rose by 8%.
Maybe those negative interest rates in Japan are working.
living here it is truly amazing to see the amount of infrastructure/pork barrel spending (depending on yr point of view). No place too inaccessible to whack a viaduct over, for the purpose of transporting daikon or whatever. Must be great if you are a civil engineer...
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Millions of low-paid workers who put aside savings could receive a top-up of up to £1,200 over four years, the government has announced.
Employees on in-work benefits, such as tax credits, who put aside £50 a month would receive a bonus of 50% after two years - worth up to £600.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-357994040 -
I see a major flaw in this...FrancisUrquhart said:Millions of low-paid workers who put aside savings could receive a top-up of up to £1,200 over four years, the government has announced.
Employees on in-work benefits, such as tax credits, who put aside £50 a month would receive a bonus of 50% after two years - worth up to £600.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35799404
If people are getting enough tax credits that they can afford to save £50 a month then they are getting too much in the way of tax credits. As it surely only exists as a scheme to provide people with sufficient income on which to live.
Giving people who are already receiving too much public money even more public money seems utterly, utterly stupid0 -
You do have to wonder don't you....And it is also open to people on Universal Credit...now those people really aren't going to (or shouldn't have) loads of free income.oxfordsimon said:
I see a major flaw in this...FrancisUrquhart said:Millions of low-paid workers who put aside savings could receive a top-up of up to £1,200 over four years, the government has announced.
Employees on in-work benefits, such as tax credits, who put aside £50 a month would receive a bonus of 50% after two years - worth up to £600.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35799404
If people are getting enough tax credits that they can afford to save £50 a month then they are getting too much in the way of tax credits. As it surely only exists as a scheme to provide people with sufficient income on which to live.
Giving people who are already receiving too much public money even more public money seems utterly, utterly stupid
Also, it seems unfair on people who are on lowish wages, but don't claim / aren't eligible for tax credits i.e. young single childless individuals on just above minimum wage. Surely they are people who could / should be encouraged to put away a few pennies, rather than spend whatever free cash they have every month.0 -
Encouraging saving is a great idea - but it shouldn't be linked to the benefits system. This is a bad, bad, bad ideaFrancisUrquhart said:
You do have to wonder don't you....And it is also open to people on Universal Credit...now those people really aren't going to (or shouldn't have) loads of free income.oxfordsimon said:
I see a major flaw in this...FrancisUrquhart said:Millions of low-paid workers who put aside savings could receive a top-up of up to £1,200 over four years, the government has announced.
Employees on in-work benefits, such as tax credits, who put aside £50 a month would receive a bonus of 50% after two years - worth up to £600.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35799404
If people are getting enough tax credits that they can afford to save £50 a month then they are getting too much in the way of tax credits. As it surely only exists as a scheme to provide people with sufficient income on which to live.
Giving people who are already receiving too much public money even more public money seems utterly, utterly stupid0 -
This could be a really good scheme to give 16-24 years olds a nudge to saving more*, especially those still living at home that didn't go to uni and also those straight out of uni on ok salaries. But these are exactly the people who will be excluded.oxfordsimon said:
Encouraging saving is a great idea - but it shouldn't be linked to the benefits system. This is a bad, bad, bad ideaFrancisUrquhart said:
You do have to wonder don't you....And it is also open to people on Universal Credit...now those people really aren't going to (or shouldn't have) loads of free income.oxfordsimon said:
I see a major flaw in this...FrancisUrquhart said:Millions of low-paid workers who put aside savings could receive a top-up of up to £1,200 over four years, the government has announced.
Employees on in-work benefits, such as tax credits, who put aside £50 a month would receive a bonus of 50% after two years - worth up to £600.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35799404
If people are getting enough tax credits that they can afford to save £50 a month then they are getting too much in the way of tax credits. As it surely only exists as a scheme to provide people with sufficient income on which to live.
Giving people who are already receiving too much public money even more public money seems utterly, utterly stupid
* Anybody who has had any experience employing this group will know that many have the attitude that a deposit for a house seems unattainable, so YOLO with what spare cash they do have. Rather than understanding the power of compound interest.0 -
Ashfield is not a marginal. The Labour Maj is nearly 9000, and their main challengers - the Lib Dems - just imploded further.AndyJS said:
I didn't know the boundary commission had even started their work yet.NickPalmer said:I understand from a Boundary Commission source that Broxtowe is slated to be one of the constituencies to disappear. Exactly how isn't clear, but if they treat the City border as sacrosanct (as they have in the past, for no good reason in my opinion) then it will merge into part of Ashfield, replacing a Lab and Con marginal by a Lab marginal on 2015 figures. The MPs are Anna Soubry and Gloria de Piero respectively - should be a needle match.
The former Lib Dem candidate now leads "Ashfield Independents", and has been charged with sexual offences. He defends his innocence strongly.
Though to be fair, the Corbyn effect might help UKIP, but probably not the Tories.0
