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35.4% repotting Jim just 1 (ONE) vote away from the 1/2 century. Please go to Jim50.com to raise the money we need!
Donald Trump 31,118 votes (--) 33.5%
John Kasich 15,750 votes (-15,368) 16.9%
Ted Cruz 10,836 votes (-20,282) 11.7%
Jeb Bush 10,526 votes (-20,592) 11.3%
Marco Rubio 9,964 votes (-21,154) 10.7%
Chris Christie 7,017 votes (-24,101) 7.6%
Carly Fiorina 4,084 votes (-27,034) 4.4%
Ben Carson 2,243 votes (-28,875) 2.4%
Other 1,338 votes (-29,780) 1.4%
Jim Gilmore 49 votes (-31,069) 0.1%
35.4% Precincts Reporting
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Crowd funded campaign.0
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People respect him.Danny565 said:Ben Jacobs ✔ @Bencjacobs
No one at Trump booing Bernie at all. Hillary was ferociously heckled by people here.
It's weird how voters (especially young ones) trust old people more than young ones, as long as they have never been in government.0 -
36.8% reporting
Donald Trump 31,118 votes (--) 33.6%
John Kasich 15,546 votes (-15,572) 16.8%
Ted Cruz 10,836 votes (-20,282) 11.7%
Jeb Bush 10,526 votes (-20,592) 11.4%
Marco Rubio 9,964 votes (-21,154) 10.8%
Chris Christie 7,017 votes (-24,101) 7.6%
Carly Fiorina 4,033 votes (-27,085) 4.4%
Ben Carson 2,243 votes (-28,875) 2.4%
Other 1,338 votes (-29,780) 1.4%
Jim Gilmore 49 votes (-31,069) 0.1%
36.8% Precincts Reporting
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34.4% reporting
Bernie Sanders 57,020 votes (--) 60.4%
Hillary Clinton 36,466 votes (-20,554) 38.6%
Other 953 votes (-56,067) 1.0%
34.4% Precincts Reporting
92,836 Votes
Bernie now 20%+ lead. Hillary not just defeated but devastated.0 -
Off to bed now, will catch up on Trump's speech in the morning. It looks like it will be Trump v Clinton in November but they have to see off Cruz and Sanders first!0
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Hillary has had two elections. One she drew (on votes probably lost) the other she got eviscerated. She aint winning the Presidency, Bet accordingly.0
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Hurry up Bernie, I want to hear the Donald !0
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40.7% reporting
Donald Trump 35,767 votes (--) 33.8%
John Kasich 17,772 votes (-17,995) 16.8%
Ted Cruz 12,376 votes (-23,391) 11.7%
Jeb Bush 12,086 votes (-23,681) 11.4%
Marco Rubio 11,295 votes (-24,472) 10.7%
Chris Christie 7,747 votes (-28,020) 7.3%
Carly Fiorina 4,660 votes (-31,107) 4.4%
Ben Carson 2,552 votes (-33,215) 2.4%
Other 1,606 votes (-34,161) 1.5%
Jim Gilmore 58 votes (-35,709) 0.1%
40.7% Precincts Reporting
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I'm guessing the NY Daily News is not a Trump fan......
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Rubio is gonna be 5th but joy Jim now 58 votes!0
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Well we can be certain it won't be the Gettysburg Address, more like the Ego has Landed, but enjoy!Speedy said:
I'll stay a bit longer, you never know what may happen in a Trump speech.HYUFD said:Off to bed now, will catch up on Trump's speech in the morning. It looks like it will be Trump v Clinton in November but they have to see off Cruz and Sanders first!
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DEMOCRATS
Bernie Sanders 63,454 votes (--) 60.5%
Hillary Clinton 40,220 votes (-23,234) 38.3%
Other 1,229 votes (-62,225) 1.2%
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They never did, since the 1980's they published their opinion on him on their front page.CarlottaVance said:I'm guessing the NY Daily News is not a Trump fan......
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Rubio gets a delegate doesn't he ? (10% rule ?)YossariansChild said:Rubio is gonna be 5th but joy Jim now 58 votes!
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She is if her opponent is Trump, she leads him by almost 5% in the RCP poll average, it will be close but he is her best route to the White House. GoodnightYossariansChild said:Hillary has had two elections. One she drew (on votes probably lost) the other she got eviscerated. She aint winning the Presidency, Bet accordingly.
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46.7% reporting
Donald Trump 37,291 votes (--) 33.5%
John Kasich 18,809 votes (-18,482) 16.9%
Ted Cruz 13,187 votes (-24,104) 11.8%
Jeb Bush 12,647 votes (-24,644) 11.4%
Marco Rubio 11,802 votes (-25,489) 10.6%
Chris Christie 8,198 votes (-29,093) 7.4%
Carly Fiorina 4,898 votes (-32,393) 4.4%
Ben Carson 2,695 votes (-34,596) 2.4%
Other 1,715 votes (-35,576) 1.5%
Jim Gilmore 61 votes (-37,230) 0.1%
46.7% Precincts Reporting
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Trump landslide0
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And Bernie isn't winning it outside New England. Maybe that means Bloomberg will step forward.YossariansChild said:Hillary has had two elections. One she drew (on votes probably lost) the other she got eviscerated. She aint winning the Presidency, Bet accordingly.
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With 41% in I think Rubio will end up 5th behind Bush.
Fox projects Christie 6th.0 -
Trump stumps Bush speaking.
Trump: " I would like to thank " an oscar speech so far.0 -
CNN projects Kasich second.
The Republican race looks even more of a dog's dinner than it did before.0 -
Here we go0
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Trump's parents are still alive?!?!
EDIT: Erm, never mind.0 -
No doubt. Any volunteers?Pulpstar said:
Rubio gets a delegate doesn't he ? (10% rule ?)YossariansChild said:Rubio is gonna be 5th but joy Jim now 58 votes!
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Someone link me to the cnn feed ?
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In his dreams maybe. When he wakes up he still aint winning any states though!AndyJS said:
And Bernie isn't winning it outside New England. Maybe that means Bloomberg will step forward.YossariansChild said:Hillary has had two elections. One she drew (on votes probably lost) the other she got eviscerated. She aint winning the Presidency, Bet accordingly.
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http://www.playlivenew.com/2010/08/watch-cnn-news-live/Pulpstar said:Someone link me to the cnn feed ?
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Your conclusion therefore is that Trump will be the next POTUS?YossariansChild said:
In his dreams maybe. When he wakes up he still aint winning any states though!AndyJS said:
And Bernie isn't winning it outside New England. Maybe that means Bloomberg will step forward.YossariansChild said:Hillary has had two elections. One she drew (on votes probably lost) the other she got eviscerated. She aint winning the Presidency, Bet accordingly.
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http://www.freeintertv.com/view/id-200Pulpstar said:Someone link me to the cnn feed ?
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Trump needs to remember Roman triumphs 'remember thou art mortal.'0
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Trump attacking Sanders a bit.
Attacking China, Japan, Mexico now.
Sanders just hit 60%.0 -
I have no conclusion other than Hillary aint gonna win.AndyJS said:
Your conclusion therefore is that Trump will be the next POTUS?YossariansChild said:
In his dreams maybe. When he wakes up he still aint winning any states though!AndyJS said:
And Bernie isn't winning it outside New England. Maybe that means Bloomberg will step forward.YossariansChild said:Hillary has had two elections. One she drew (on votes probably lost) the other she got eviscerated. She aint winning the Presidency, Bet accordingly.
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Now watching it on ABC as he has started being sarcastic thanking the other 'brilliant candidates' who he promises to beat again and then really thanks the people of NH who he loves a lot. Congrats Bernie but says he will give away the country while he will beat China, Japan and Mexico. Plenty to chew over anyway but will leave it thereSpeedy said:Trump stumps Bush speaking.
Trump: " I would like to thank " an oscar speech so far.0 -
Both Trump and Sanders to reform campaign finance !0
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Oh and Bloomberg will never be POTUS as an independent. I knew that before.AndyJS said:
Your conclusion therefore is that Trump will be the next POTUS?YossariansChild said:
In his dreams maybe. When he wakes up he still aint winning any states though!AndyJS said:
And Bernie isn't winning it outside New England. Maybe that means Bloomberg will step forward.YossariansChild said:Hillary has had two elections. One she drew (on votes probably lost) the other she got eviscerated. She aint winning the Presidency, Bet accordingly.
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Trump is really interacting with the audience.HYUFD said:
Now watching it on ABC as he has started being sarcastic thanking the other 'brilliant candidates' who he promises to beat again and then really thanks the people of NH who he loves a lot. Congrats Bernie but says he will give away the country while he will beat China, Japan and Mexico. Plenty to chew over anyway but will leave it thereSpeedy said:Trump stumps Bush speaking.
Trump: " I would like to thank " an oscar speech so far.
The audience is part of his show.0 -
48.3% reporting
Donald Trump 40,961 votes (--) 33.6%
John Kasich 20,617 votes (-20,344) 16.9%
Ted Cruz 14,099 votes (-26,862) 11.6%
Jeb Bush 13,763 votes (-27,198) 11.3%
Marco Rubio 13,109 votes (-27,852) 10.8%
Chris Christie 8,910 votes (-32,051) 7.3%
Carly Fiorina 5,316 votes (-35,645) 4.4%
Ben Carson 2,948 votes (-38,013) 2.4%
Other 1,964 votes (-38,997) 1.6%
Jim Gilmore 79 votes (-40,882) 0.1%
48.3% Precincts Reporting
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Bernie Sanders 68,781 votes (--) 60.5%
Hillary Clinton 43,527 votes (-25,254) 38.3%
Other 1,341 votes (-67,440) 1.2%
48.3% Precincts Reporting
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50% reporting
Donald Trump 40,961 votes (--) 33.6%
John Kasich 20,617 votes (-20,344) 16.9%
Ted Cruz 14,099 votes (-26,862) 11.6%
Jeb Bush 13,763 votes (-27,198) 11.3%
Marco Rubio 13,109 votes (-27,852) 10.8%
Chris Christie 8,910 votes (-32,051) 7.3%
Carly Fiorina 5,316 votes (-35,645) 4.4%
Ben Carson 2,948 votes (-38,013) 2.4%
Other 1,964 votes (-38,997) 1.6%
Jim Gilmore 79 votes (-40,882) 0.1%
50.0% Precincts Reporting
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Trump: Unemployment is 42%
His speech is now becoming an, erm, a mess, like random parts of cut outs.0 -
Bush less than 300 votes behind Cruz for 3rd.0
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.@realDonaldTrump: “I am going to be the greatest jobs president that God ever created.” #NHPrimary https://t.co/YBrFuV63R00
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Trump 31.2
Rubio 14.0
Kasich 13.5
Cruz 11.8
Bush 11.5
Christie 5.8
Fiorina 4.8
Carson 2.8
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Trump - empty platitudes.0
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Trumps speech random ejaculations which will be ideal for news segments. Job done for him. Trump now clear front runner.0
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Kasich speaking with his usual karate chops.
"I beat Trump at Dixville Knotts"0 -
he's going to knock hell out of ISIS in the *right* way0
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Premature judgment in my view.YossariansChild said:Trumps speech random ejaculations which will be ideal for news segments. Job done for him. Trump now clear front runner.
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What's JApan done to Trump btw? Didn't we let him build a golf course or something?0
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So Fiorina gets 2x as many votes as Carson yet Carson was at the debate any ideas as to why?0
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Rubio speaking.
Blames his debate.
Talks about his father in Jan. 1979 in Las Vegas being a bartender.
Looks really sweaty.
There he goes again: "New American Century"0 -
Donald Trump 47,559 votes (--) 34.3%
John Kasich 23,192 votes (-24,367) 16.7%
Ted Cruz 16,174 votes (-31,385) 11.6%
Jeb Bush 15,591 votes (-31,968) 11.2%
Marco Rubio 14,902 votes (-32,657) 10.7%
Chris Christie 10,011 votes (-37,548) 7.2%
Carly Fiorina 5,943 votes (-41,616) 4.3%
Ben Carson 3,257 votes (-44,302) 2.3%
Other 2,123 votes (-45,436) 1.5%
Jim Gilmore 85 votes (-47,474) 0.1%
52.0% Precincts Reporting
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He has a thing with Japan going back to the 80's.dugarbandier said:What's JApan done to Trump btw? Didn't we let him build a golf course or something?
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Wheres that? Im on CNN wanting to self harm watching Kasich.Speedy said:Rubio speaking.
Blames his debate.
Talks about his father in Jan. 1979 in Las Vegas being a bartender.
Looks really sweaty.
There he goes again: "New American Century"0 -
It was on Fox.YossariansChild said:
Wheres that? Im on CNN wanting to self harm watching Kasich.Speedy said:Rubio speaking.
Blames his debate.
Talks about his father in Jan. 1979 in Las Vegas being a bartender.
Looks really sweaty.
There he goes again: "New American Century"0 -
Kasich: "slow down give them a hug.. from NH 'im going to go slower" well its not Churchillian maybe Gilmoreasque in its oratory. Bless. You are coming back Kasich you left your mc nuggets.0
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Anderson Cooper asks us to 'look at Bush'... Im guessing first time he's uttered those words.0
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Ted Cruz speaks now.
Blasts the establishment, mentions his Iowa victory.
Actually he gives his Iowa victory speech almost verbatim.
He said that he proved his critics wrong that said that a conservative doesn't do well in N.H., with 12% ?0 -
see when trump says "Do you think we'd have this find of rally if unemployment was only 5%" is he guessing that most of his audience are unemployed, otherwise they'd be at work? Is his audience happy to hear it? are they mostly unemployed?0
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Donald Trump 54,580 votes (--) 34.2%
John Kasich 26,214 votes (-28,366) 16.4%
Ted Cruz 18,617 votes (-35,963) 11.7%
Jeb Bush 17,893 votes (-36,687) 11.2%
Marco Rubio 17,103 votes (-37,477) 10.7%
Chris Christie 12,070 votes (-42,510) 7.6%
Carly Fiorina 6,821 votes (-47,759) 4.3%
Ben Carson 3,721 votes (-50,859) 2.3%
Other 2,306 votes (-52,274) 1.4%
Jim Gilmore 89 votes (-54,491) 0.1%
60.3% Precincts Reporting
157,590 Votes
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Rubio blaming himself 'its all on me.' Fair play. doesnt help Kryton though.0
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Thomas Kaplan @thomaskaplan 3m3 minutes agoSpeedy said:The Associated PressVerified account @AP 46s46 seconds ago
BREAKING: Christie heading home to New Jersey to 'take a deep breath,' take stock of presidential bid.
He's the only one that he's considering dropping out, but he's getting only 2% in S.Carolina polls.
Christie says he wants to see final results: "That's going to allow us to make a decision about how we move from here in this race"0 -
Bed beckons Good night all xx0
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https://www.yahoo.com/politics/marco-rubio-robots-clash-video-175659095.html arf
Rubio is down, but not out.
Christie with no delegates is definitely out.
Rubio doesn't have Christie to deal with in the next debate.
The media loves a comeback narrative !0 -
Rubio will now have to content with Bush.Pulpstar said:https://www.yahoo.com/politics/marco-rubio-robots-clash-video-175659095.html arf
Rubio is down, but not out.
Christie with no delegates is definitely out.
Rubio doesn't have Christie to deal with in the next debate.
The media loves a comeback narrative !
Bush and Cruz will try to finish him off, Rubio's last chance is the Saturday debate, if he doesn't excel he's finished.
Cruz will also pick a fight with Trump, but everyone else will be bothered killing Rubio's campaign.
There is a debate on Saturday, we haven't got a single S.Carolina poll since Iowa, so we don't know the impact from those 2 results and the last debate.
Goodnight.0 -
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CNN screen shot has a nice smiley photo of Sanders alongside a hard growling one of Trump.
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Seems like silver haired politics are now in fashion (OK, so I don't know what colour The Donald's hair actually is. Suspect that his barber doesn't know either
Just for fun, I'm thinking about putting some money on David Davis being the next leader of the Tories. Seems there maybe a GE this year, if the rumour mill can be believed, that there are 5 conservative mp's being investigated with pretty cast iron cases against them. (But then again we do know about cast iron guarantees and the Tory leadership promises) Plus the 2 (or possibly more) SNP mp's in trouble... Could be a more interesting year than thought possible a month or so ago.0 -
Remember the FTPA. Anyway,even if all those “investigated”Tories were thrown out and opposition parties won their seats Cameron would still have an overall majority, and a divided opposition.OchEye said:Seems like silver haired politics are now in fashion (OK, so I don't know what colour The Donald's hair actually is. Suspect that his barber doesn't know either
Just for fun, I'm thinking about putting some money on David Davis being the next leader of the Tories. Seems there maybe a GE this year, if the rumour mill can be believed, that there are 5 conservative mp's being investigated with pretty cast iron cases against them. (But then again we do know about cast iron guarantees and the Tory leadership promises) Plus the 2 (or possibly more) SNP mp's in trouble... Could be a more interesting year than thought possible a month or so ago.0 -
Sounds like an interesting evening. Hope it was profitable for you all.0
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Morning all.
Poor old Hillary, dragging Bill out to New Hampshire worked wonders then.
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SimonStClare said:
Morning all.
Poor old Hillary, dragging Bill out to New Hampshire worked wonders then.
Joe Biden really should have ran - Hillary is proving useless.0 -
Please withdraw that slur on useless people. Hilary is proving so shockingly inept that even the Department for Education would consider her not fit to have a job.JonathanD said:SimonStClare said:Morning all.
Poor old Hillary, dragging Bill out to New Hampshire worked wonders then.
Joe Biden really should have ran - Hillary is proving useless.
That's the same Department for Education that responded to an accurate NAO report this morning with a pack of false or totally mistaken information that shows just how hopelessly stupid and out of touch they are:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/department-education-crticised-not-grasping-extent-teacher-shortages-england-15429060 -
I mis read that: that it was "Hillary has called ON bernie to concede"HYUFD said:Hillary Clinton has called Bernie Sanders to concede
http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/nh/Dem
My immediate reaction was "that's a bit cheeky" - but not to rule out it might have happened
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Not sure what the problem is. The DofE seems to be doing its job of ensuring enough teachers are trained. Resourcing individual schools is surely the job of the employer. And I have never understood why you are supposed to need a degree in physics to teach GCSE physics.ydoethur said:
Please withdraw that slur on useless people. Hilary is proving so shockingly inept that even the Department for Education would consider her not fit to have a job.JonathanD said:SimonStClare said:Morning all.
Poor old Hillary, dragging Bill out to New Hampshire worked wonders then.
Joe Biden really should have ran - Hillary is proving useless.
That's the same Department for Education that responded to an accurate NAO report this morning with a pack of false or totally mistaken information that shows just how hopelessly stupid and out of touch they are:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/department-education-crticised-not-grasping-extent-teacher-shortages-england-15429060 -
And yet she could well end up president. Good result though it is for Sanders, it's not quite enough and her money and strength with the black community will see her through to the nomination. Against Trump or Cruz - or indeed anyone in the Republican field - she stands a good chance.ydoethur said:
Please withdraw that slur on useless people. Hilary is proving so shockingly inept that even the Department for Education would consider her not fit to have a job.JonathanD said:SimonStClare said:Morning all.
Poor old Hillary, dragging Bill out to New Hampshire worked wonders then.
Joe Biden really should have ran - Hillary is proving useless.
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Thoughts on NH.
1. The New Hampshire polls were understating Trump in the end. Clearly no armchair activist problem for him there.
2. Hard to see why Carson and Fiorina are still in the race now. There is a time to withdraw gracefully, and this is it. (Christie is still there to make life difficult for Rubio - edit: just seen that Christie may well be withdrawing; presumably he feels Rubio is now holed below the waterline).
3. Rubio officially now a bubble candidate: winners don't come fifth. I am expecting his national shares to tank now off the back of New Hampshire.
4. Second place for Kasich is excellent for Cruz as it may well mean that the conservative vote consolidates before the moderate vote. It's best for Trump though as it keeps both sides split through to at least Super Tuesday, by when he could have a huge lead in delegates and momentum.
5. It's a dreadful result for Hillary and again highlights her weakness. She'll still win the nomination but it'll be a slog rather than a triumph, assuming no terminal legal problems. Sanders is unelectable and it's too late for anyone else.0 -
The straightforward problem is they are not doing their job. Raw numbers hide an extremely uneven performance across different subjects and areas largely thanks to the DfE's insistence on school-centred teaching (which is unpopular and expensive) against university courses (which are also expensive but are at least effective). If you want a history teacher in Warwickshire, dead easy. If you want a physics teacher in Bristol, very difficult. If you want a maths teacher pretty well anywhere, near impossible. Moreover, while numbers of primary school teachers have kept pace with numbers of students, again they are badly distributed. So in Sheffield and parts of London average class sizes are nudging 30 (higher in specific areas) but in Gloucestershire there is chronic over-supply.JohnLilburne said:
Not sure what the problem is. The DofE seems to be doing its job of ensuring enough teachers are trained. Resourcing individual schools is surely the job of the employer. And I have never understood why you are supposed to need a degree in physics to teach GCSE physics.ydoethur said:
Please withdraw that slur on useless people. Hilary is proving so shockingly inept that even the Department for Education would consider her not fit to have a job.JonathanD said:SimonStClare said:Morning all.
Poor old Hillary, dragging Bill out to New Hampshire worked wonders then.
Joe Biden really should have ran - Hillary is proving useless.
That's the same Department for Education that responded to an accurate NAO report this morning with a pack of false or totally mistaken information that shows just how hopelessly stupid and out of touch they are:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/department-education-crticised-not-grasping-extent-teacher-shortages-england-1542906
But the DfE don't care about that as they only work with raw numbers across the country, and to my knowledge none of them have practical experience of working in a school (yes, I do mean what I seem to be saying about their educational attainment). Their incompetence, rudeness and insufferable complacency are actually a good reason for teachers to leave anyway. I think Dorothy Wainwright's idea of abolishing it entirely has ample merit.
PS you don't need a degree to teach at GCSE. What about at A-level, which has just been made much harder?0 -
Morning all,
Just catching up (couldn't stay up in the end). I am surprised. I really did think the pollsters were overstating Trump by a significant amount. GOP establishment must be in meltdown this morning.
Rubio is all but finished. That's one of my POTUS bets up in flames.0 -
She's evens on Betfair this morning.david_herdson said:
And yet she could well end up president. Good result though it is for Sanders, it's not quite enough and her money and strength with the black community will see her through to the nomination. Against Trump or Cruz - or indeed anyone in the Republican field - she stands a good chance.ydoethur said:
Please withdraw that slur on useless people. Hilary is proving so shockingly inept that even the Department for Education would consider her not fit to have a job.JonathanD said:SimonStClare said:Morning all.
Poor old Hillary, dragging Bill out to New Hampshire worked wonders then.
Joe Biden really should have ran - Hillary is proving useless.
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She'd get mullered in 2020 though.0 -
It's daft. The vast majority of those with physics degrees probably want to use them for something other than teaching. There must be many, more than capable of teaching that subject and others, who don't have one.JohnLilburne said:
Not sure what the problem is. The DofE seems to be doing its job of ensuring enough teachers are trained. Resourcing individual schools is surely the job of the employer. And I have never understood why you are supposed to need a degree in physics to teach GCSE physics.ydoethur said:
Please withdraw that slur on useless people. Hilary is proving so shockingly inept that even the Department for Education would consider her not fit to have a job.JonathanD said:SimonStClare said:Morning all.
Poor old Hillary, dragging Bill out to New Hampshire worked wonders then.
Joe Biden really should have ran - Hillary is proving useless.
That's the same Department for Education that responded to an accurate NAO report this morning with a pack of false or totally mistaken information that shows just how hopelessly stupid and out of touch they are:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/department-education-crticised-not-grasping-extent-teacher-shortages-england-15429060 -
Agreed. The field for both sides is appallingly weak. This makes Ford v Carter look like a clash of the Titans.david_herdson said:
And yet she could well end up president. Good result though it is for Sanders, it's not quite enough and her money and strength with the black community will see her through to the nomination. Against Trump or Cruz - or indeed anyone in the Republican field - she stands a good chance.ydoethur said:
Please withdraw that slur on useless people. Hilary is proving so shockingly inept that even the Department for Education would consider her not fit to have a job.JonathanD said:SimonStClare said:Morning all.
Poor old Hillary, dragging Bill out to New Hampshire worked wonders then.
Joe Biden really should have ran - Hillary is proving useless.
[off-topic snip]
She'd get mullered in 2020 though.
Your last sentence - do you really see a plausible Republican emerging and winning the nomination in 2020? With their activist base it looks like hard work to do that and win the presidency.0 -
Sadly not. I had a wild bet on Christie some months ago.JosiasJessop said:Sounds like an interesting evening. Hope it was profitable for you all.
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Poor, poor result for Hilary. 8 years ago she beat Obama in this State and Sanders sure isn't any Obama. If she doesn't lift her game soon there is going to be outright panic on the Democratic side.
On the republican side the Corbyn analogy continues to hold good. While all the minor candidates work furiously against each other trying to present themselves as "the" challenger the Donald sails out of sight. To put this into perspective he got as many votes as Cruz, Rubio and Bush put together.
Will it now be Kasich's brief moment in the sun? I seriously doubt it. He is far, far too liberal for the Republican party once the voting moves out of the north east. Just maybe the field will thin now and there will be a better prospect of the anti Donald's coalescing but he must be the very strong favourite.0 -
It's extraordinary that Trump is still odds-against for the nomination.
NH has shown that his polling is not overly-loaded with armchair activists; it's real. And if it's real there then we can assume that his very healthy leads in SC and nationally are also real. We don't know much about Nevada and the campaign still has dynamics to play out as candidates withdraw and their support reallocates but it's hard to see Trump not being the leading candidate going into Super Tuesday, probably by quite some way.
On a similar note, second favourite is ... drumroll ... Rubio! Seriously. He's even worse value than Jeb (who is himself only 11/2). I can't really see Kasich doing it but at 22/1, I don't think his chances are four times worse than Bush the Third.0 -
Christie has headed home to reflect apparently. Looks like he's out.0
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I had two physics teachers, One knew his physics, the other knew how to teach. Guess which one we learnt from.watford30 said:
It's daft. The vast majority of those with physics degrees probably want to use them for something other than teaching. There must be many, more than capable of teaching that subject and others, who don't have one.JohnLilburne said:
Not sure what the problem is. The DofE seems to be doing its job of ensuring enough teachers are trained. Resourcing individual schools is surely the job of the employer. And I have never understood why you are supposed to need a degree in physics to teach GCSE physics.ydoethur said:
Please withdraw that slur on useless people. Hilary is proving so shockingly inept that even the Department for Education would consider her not fit to have a job.JonathanD said:SimonStClare said:Morning all.
Poor old Hillary, dragging Bill out to New Hampshire worked wonders then.
Joe Biden really should have ran - Hillary is proving useless.
That's the same Department for Education that responded to an accurate NAO report this morning with a pack of false or totally mistaken information that shows just how hopelessly stupid and out of touch they are:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/department-education-crticised-not-grasping-extent-teacher-shortages-england-1542906
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Historic polling. It was still a heartless decision not to give her Trump's empty podium.YossariansChild said:So Fiorina gets 2x as many votes as Carson yet Carson was at the debate any ideas as to why?
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My instincts are telling me now that Bush will be the one who takes on Trump over the long haul. Rubio is finished by the look of it.david_herdson said:It's extraordinary that Trump is still odds-against for the nomination.
NH has shown that his polling is not overly-loaded with armchair activists; it's real. And if it's real there then we can assume that his very healthy leads in SC and nationally are also real. We don't know much about Nevada and the campaign still has dynamics to play out as candidates withdraw and their support reallocates but it's hard to see Trump not being the leading candidate going into Super Tuesday, probably by quite some way.
On a similar note, second favourite is ... drumroll ... Rubio! Seriously. He's even worse value than Jeb (who is himself only 11/2). I can't really see Kasich doing it but at 22/1, I don't think his chances are four times worse than Bush the Third.0 -
Problem with the prospect of Sanders winning the nomination is that he is probably the only person who could lose to Trump.david_herdson said:
And yet she could well end up president. Good result though it is for Sanders, it's not quite enough and her money and strength with the black community will see her through to the nomination. Against Trump or Cruz - or indeed anyone in the Republican field - she stands a good chance.ydoethur said:
Please withdraw that slur on useless people. Hilary is proving so shockingly inept that even the Department for Education would consider her not fit to have a job.JonathanD said:SimonStClare said:Morning all.
Poor old Hillary, dragging Bill out to New Hampshire worked wonders then.
Joe Biden really should have ran - Hillary is proving useless.
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She'd get mullered in 2020 though.0 -
Apart from every member of the Republican PartyJohnLilburne said:
Problem with the prospect of Sanders winning the nomination is that he is probably the only person who could lose to Trump.david_herdson said:
And yet she could well end up president. Good result though it is for Sanders, it's not quite enough and her money and strength with the black community will see her through to the nomination. Against Trump or Cruz - or indeed anyone in the Republican field - she stands a good chance.ydoethur said:
Please withdraw that slur on useless people. Hilary is proving so shockingly inept that even the Department for Education would consider her not fit to have a job.JonathanD said:SimonStClare said:Morning all.
Poor old Hillary, dragging Bill out to New Hampshire worked wonders then.
Joe Biden really should have ran - Hillary is proving useless.
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She'd get mullered in 2020 though.
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Oh, the irony. Many complained about the state of the DfE between 1997-2010, and were shouted down or ignored. Chickens roosting.ydoethur said:
The straightforward problem is they are not doing their job. Raw numbers hide an extremely uneven performance across different subjects and areas largely thanks to the DfE's insistence on school-centred teaching (which is unpopular and expensive) against university courses (which are also expensive but are at least effective). If you want a history teacher in Warwickshire, dead easy. If you want a physics teacher in Bristol, very difficult. If you want a maths teacher pretty well anywhere, near impossible. Moreover, while numbers of primary school teachers have kept pace with numbers of students, again they are badly distributed. So in Sheffield and parts of London average class sizes are nudging 30 (higher in specific areas) but in Gloucestershire there is chronic over-supply.JohnLilburne said:
Not sure what the problem is. The DofE seems to be doing its job of ensuring enough teachers are trained. Resourcing individual schools is surely the job of the employer. And I have never understood why you are supposed to need a degree in physics to teach GCSE physics.ydoethur said:
Please withdraw that slur on useless people. Hilary is proving so shockingly inept that even the Department for Education would consider her not fit to have a job.JonathanD said:SimonStClare said:Morning all.
Poor old Hillary, dragging Bill out to New Hampshire worked wonders then.
Joe Biden really should have ran - Hillary is proving useless.
That's the same Department for Education that responded to an accurate NAO report this morning with a pack of false or totally mistaken information that shows just how hopelessly stupid and out of touch they are:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/department-education-crticised-not-grasping-extent-teacher-shortages-england-1542906
But the DfE don't care about that as they only work with raw numbers across the country, and to my knowledge none of them have practical experience of working in a school (yes, I do mean what I seem to be saying about their educational attainment). Their incompetence, rudeness and insufferable complacency are actually a good reason for teachers to leave anyway. I think Dorothy Wainwright's idea of abolishing it entirely has ample merit.
PS you don't need a degree to teach at GCSE. What about at A-level, which has just been made much harder?0 -
Not according to the head-to-head matchup pollsdavid_herdson said:Sanders is unelectable
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I agree with that. I saw a few snippets of him saying how they could not let Trump take over "our" party and that he was the only one trying to stop him. I expect the establishment to abandon Rubio and back Bush. Whether that will do any good is another question.rottenborough said:
My instincts are telling me now that Bush will be the one who takes on Trump over the long haul. Rubio is finished by the look of it.david_herdson said:It's extraordinary that Trump is still odds-against for the nomination.
NH has shown that his polling is not overly-loaded with armchair activists; it's real. And if it's real there then we can assume that his very healthy leads in SC and nationally are also real. We don't know much about Nevada and the campaign still has dynamics to play out as candidates withdraw and their support reallocates but it's hard to see Trump not being the leading candidate going into Super Tuesday, probably by quite some way.
On a similar note, second favourite is ... drumroll ... Rubio! Seriously. He's even worse value than Jeb (who is himself only 11/2). I can't really see Kasich doing it but at 22/1, I don't think his chances are four times worse than Bush the Third.0
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