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TheScreamingEagles said:

The ultimate dead cat?

Czech politicians have taken to social media in outrage following their president's suggestion that the prime minister could be "got rid of" by shooting him.

President Milos Zeman - who is known for his outspokenness - admitted in a radio interview in December he wished he could sack Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka. At a public meeting in southern Moravia on Monday, the president was asked how he would get rid of the prime minister, to which he replied: "The democratic option is one way, through free elections. The undemocratic option is a Kalashnikov."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-35420550

Pulpstar said:

Why is remain at the top of the ballot, "L" comes before "R" in the alphabet so far as I can recall.

welshowl said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

The ultimate dead cat?

Czech politicians have taken to social media in outrage following their president's suggestion that the prime minister could be "got rid of" by shooting him.

President Milos Zeman - who is known for his outspokenness - admitted in a radio interview in December he wished he could sack Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka. At a public meeting in southern Moravia on Monday, the president was asked how he would get rid of the prime minister, to which he replied: "The democratic option is one way, through free elections. The undemocratic option is a Kalashnikov."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-35420550

Is it good if Czech politicians get a bounce?

Pulpstar said:

Why is remain at the top of the ballot, "L" comes before "R" in the alphabet so far as I can recall.

Pulpstar said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Pulpstar said:

Why is remain at the top of the ballot, "L" comes before "R" in the alphabet so far as I can recall.

Because it's the first option in the referendum question.

Yes, I realise that begs a further question.

I've just checked the AV ballot "Yes" was above "No" in that too.

TheScreamingEagles said:

The ultimate dead cat?

Czech politicians have taken to social media in outrage following their president's suggestion that the prime minister could be "got rid of" by shooting him.

President Milos Zeman - who is known for his outspokenness - admitted in a radio interview in December he wished he could sack Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka. At a public meeting in southern Moravia on Monday, the president was asked how he would get rid of the prime minister, to which he replied: "The democratic option is one way, through free elections. The undemocratic option is a Kalashnikov."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-35420550

Morris_Dancer said:

FPT: Mr. Eagles, being serious, a certain proportion of people find those of a different ethnicity very attractive. It's an evolutionary development to help encourage inter-breeding and help avoid in-breeding.

Mr. Slackbladder, aye, had a high elf sorceress in Skyrim I got to level 60 odd.

I do hope Elder Scrolls VI comes out soon. I'd guess 2017 is the very earliest it might.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Pulpstar said:

Why is remain at the top of the ballot, "L" comes before "R" in the alphabet so far as I can recall.

Because it's the first option in the referendum question.

Yes, I realise that begs a further question.

I've just checked the AV ballot "Yes" was above "No" in that too.

I might do another thread on AV based on that.

Casino_Royale said:

Who's answering the phone in the phone polls? What findings were there from the GE post mortem?

I ask because the level of don't knows at c.10% seem very low to me compared to the online polls. I know the online pollsters use a more 'politically engaged' panel. So that would suggest most people out there on the street have already made up their mind it's better to stay in. A bit like Cameron.

Really?

If you believe the phone polls, then the 7/1 Ladbrokes odds for Remain at 60-65% looks like value.

Sean_F said:

I thought the last poll from ORB was 36% Remain to 43% Leave (46/54 excluding don't knows)

Morris_Dancer said:

FPT: Mr. Eagles, being serious, a certain proportion of people find those of a different ethnicity very attractive. It's an evolutionary development to help encourage inter-breeding and help avoid in-breeding.

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

@JohnRentoul · 28m28 minutes ago
Young @MattChorley's homework will be marked on 20 Feb (Times Red Box email)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZu4vjEXEAI_oGV.png

I half agree with Matt Chorley. I think the deal is essentially done (indeed, a couple of EU figures have more or less said as much). But for maximum impact, I think we'll get one more bit of panto at the February meeting and a "grand" bargain struck at the April meeting, just in time for the local election cycle.

I think there could be a rabbit. It may well be linked to Gove's draft British Bill of Rights.

AlastairMeeks said:

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

@JohnRentoul · 28m28 minutes ago
Young @MattChorley's homework will be marked on 20 Feb (Times Red Box email)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZu4vjEXEAI_oGV.png

I half agree with Matt Chorley. I think the deal is essentially done (indeed, a couple of EU figures have more or less said as much). But for maximum impact, I think we'll get one more bit of panto at the February meeting and a "grand" bargain struck at the April meeting, just in time for the local election cycle.

I think there could be a rabbit. It may well be linked to Gove's draft British Bill of Rights.

I'll be amazed if there isn't a rabbit. Possibly there will be a colony of rabbits.

I'd venture further into collective nouns but that's dangerous territory today it seems.

MikeSmithson said:

Can anyone remind me how Liverpool did last night

Tissue_Price said:

AlastairMeeks said:

I'd venture further into collective nouns but that's dangerous territory today it seems.

Flocking hell

MikeSmithson said:

Can anyone remind me how Liverpool did last night

Tissue_Price said:

Casino_Royale said:

Who's answering the phone in the phone polls? What findings were there from the GE post mortem?

I ask because the level of don't knows at c.10% seem very low to me compared to the online polls. I know the online pollsters use a more 'politically engaged' panel. So that would suggest most people out there on the street have already made up their mind it's better to stay in. A bit like Cameron.

Really?

If you believe the phone polls, then the 7/1 Ladbrokes odds for Remain at 60-65% looks like value.

That would be my pick of the bets at present, though it may be based on a completely wrong analysis. A June 23 poll could be a rout for Out - it's in the middle of the Euros too, and England won't* have been knocked out yet.


* Disclaimer: you never know.

Tissue_Price said:

He's got his party back awwwrighhhtttttttttttt!

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Sean_F said:

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

@JohnRentoul · 28m28 minutes ago
Young @MattChorley's homework will be marked on 20 Feb (Times Red Box email)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZu4vjEXEAI_oGV.png

I half agree with Matt Chorley. I think the deal is essentially done (indeed, a couple of EU figures have more or less said as much). But for maximum impact, I think we'll get one more bit of panto at the February meeting and a "grand" bargain struck at the April meeting, just in time for the local election cycle.

I think there could be a rabbit. It may well be linked to Gove's draft British Bill of Rights.

I think it will be a guarantee that we can continue to have red post boxes, or something equally significant.

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Slackbladder, I do think games like Fallout/Elder Scrolls are as big as they ought to be.

The British government has backed national health via the NHS (National Health Service) since 1948 and continues to do so by creating television advertisements on prime time programs, advising the people of Britain to eat healthier. According to an article by the BBC, there is controversy on this advertising campaign, with some people pointing out that the main beneficiaries are in fact, commercial stores that offer the goods presented in the advertisement.

The commercial, part of the Change4Life campaign by the NHS to reduce the annual £5bn expense caused by obesity in the UK, shows characters made by Aardman (Creators of the Wallace and Gromit characters) changing their lifestyles in positive and healthier manners. Some critics are still sceptical that big time companies will merely use this as an excuse to exploit marketing of healthier foods in their favour.

Spending government funds for potentially, a commercial increase for privately owned businesses has raised questions as to whether the money should be spent on different projects to help the government. Potential draw backs of this campaign is that consumers may ignore it, and that stores will not participate in the scheme, as this is a voluntary set up

Tissue_Price said:

Casino_Royale said:

Who's answering the phone in the phone polls? What findings were there from the GE post mortem?

I ask because the level of don't knows at c.10% seem very low to me compared to the online polls. I know the online pollsters use a more 'politically engaged' panel. So that would suggest most people out there on the street have already made up their mind it's better to stay in. A bit like Cameron.

Really?

If you believe the phone polls, then the 7/1 Ladbrokes odds for Remain at 60-65% looks like value.

That would be my pick of the bets at present, though it may be based on a completely wrong analysis. A June 23 poll could be a rout for Out - it's in the middle of the Euros too, and England won't* have been knocked out yet.


* Disclaimer: you never know.

Casino_Royale said:

Tissue_Price said:

Casino_Royale said:

Who's answering the phone in the phone polls? What findings were there from the GE post mortem?

I ask because the level of don't knows at c.10% seem very low to me compared to the online polls. I know the online pollsters use a more 'politically engaged' panel. So that would suggest most people out there on the street have already made up their mind it's better to stay in. A bit like Cameron.

Really?

If you believe the phone polls, then the 7/1 Ladbrokes odds for Remain at 60-65% looks like value.

That would be my pick of the bets at present, though it may be based on a completely wrong analysis. A June 23 poll could be a rout for Out - it's in the middle of the Euros too, and England won't* have been knocked out yet.


* Disclaimer: you never know.

That's lost on me.

I have less than zero interest in football, and don't understand why others do.

AlastairMeeks said:

Pulpstar said:

Why is remain at the top of the ballot, "L" comes before "R" in the alphabet so far as I can recall.

Because it's the first option in the referendum question.

Yes, I realise that begs a further question.

MaxPB said:

HurstLlama said:

Sounds good, Mr. Max, but would straightforward income tax be even fairer, easier to collect and very difficult to fiddle?

If memory serves, until 1964 companies were treated as individuals and taxed on income (albeit with squillions of exemptions and loopholes). Then the Wilson government introduced an additional "Profits Tax" and that has since morphed into what we now know as Corporation Tax. Perhaps it is time to go back to what corporations and companies were originally set up for - to be treated as individuals in law.

If a company wants to do business in the UK then it wants to take advantage of the physical and legal infrastructure of the UK and so can damn well cough up a percentage of its earnings to pay for those things. A company income tax, set at a suitable level with no exemptions or allowances, would knock all fiddles on the head, Starbucks, Google, Amazon, Apple et al would all be paying their share.

Oh, I'd also make it an offence punishable by a minimum five year term of imprisonment for any CEO and CFO whose company was found guilty of not paying due taxes and the whole board of directors (including non-executives) would be disqualified for life from any UK directorship or position of public office.

Do you mean a turnover tax? That would unfairly penalise low margin businesses such as retailing and the issue there is that what may start out as a way to get foreign companies to pay tax will morph into a turnover tax on all companies in Britain under a future Labour government.

Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

Sean_F said:

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

@JohnRentoul · 28m28 minutes ago
Young @MattChorley's homework will be marked on 20 Feb (Times Red Box email)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZu4vjEXEAI_oGV.png

I half agree with Matt Chorley. I think the deal is essentially done (indeed, a couple of EU figures have more or less said as much). But for maximum impact, I think we'll get one more bit of panto at the February meeting and a "grand" bargain struck at the April meeting, just in time for the local election cycle.

I think there could be a rabbit. It may well be linked to Gove's draft British Bill of Rights.

I think it will be a guarantee that we can continue to have red post boxes, or something equally significant.

I was hoping that we can continue to drive on the left.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Pulpstar said:

Why is remain at the top of the ballot, "L" comes before "R" in the alphabet so far as I can recall.

Because it's the first option in the referendum question.

Yes, I realise that begs a further question.

I've just checked the AV ballot "Yes" was above "No" in that too.

I might do another thread on AV based on that.

Sunil J. Prasannan is calling for a total and complete shut-down of AV threads entering PB.com, until our Forum's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on!

You'll be delighted to know Sunday's thread is Star Trek themed and compares George Osborne to James T. Kirk.

HurstLlama said:

MaxPB said:

HurstLlama said:

Sounds good, Mr. Max, but would straightforward income tax be even fairer, easier to collect and very difficult to fiddle?

If memory serves, until 1964 companies were treated as individuals and taxed on income (albeit with squillions of exemptions and loopholes). Then the Wilson government introduced an additional "Profits Tax" and that has since morphed into what we now know as Corporation Tax. Perhaps it is time to go back to what corporations and companies were originally set up for - to be treated as individuals in law.

If a company wants to do business in the UK then it wants to take advantage of the physical and legal infrastructure of the UK and so can damn well cough up a percentage of its earnings to pay for those things. A company income tax, set at a suitable level with no exemptions or allowances, would knock all fiddles on the head, Starbucks, Google, Amazon, Apple et al would all be paying their share.

Oh, I'd also make it an offence punishable by a minimum five year term of imprisonment for any CEO and CFO whose company was found guilty of not paying due taxes and the whole board of directors (including non-executives) would be disqualified for life from any UK directorship or position of public office.

Do you mean a turnover tax? That would unfairly penalise low margin businesses such as retailing and the issue there is that what may start out as a way to get foreign companies to pay tax will morph into a turnover tax on all companies in Britain under a future Labour government.

No, Mr. Max, I mean an income tax payable by every company, British or Foreign owned, on the money they earn from doing business in the UK. Forget corporation tax, just a straightforward income tax instead payable by all businesses who do business in the UK with no exemptions, no allowances, no loopholes and imprisonment and professional ruin for those directors whose companies are caught not paying up.

AlastairMeeks said:

Meanwhile in other EU news:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/674647a6-c4f9-11e5-808f-8231cd71622e.html?ftcamp=published_links/rss/brussels/feed//product#axzz3ySTlWyGL

"Brussels took its first step towards reimposing border checks on Greece on Wednesday, announcing it had found “serious deficiencies” with Athens’ handling of the massive influx of refugees from the Middle East and giving it three months to fix its migrant system."

"Alongside the Schengen move, the European Commission has also recommended sending assistance to Macedonia so it can shore up its border with Greece — the main crossing point for refugees moving north into Germany and points north."

AndyJS said:

O/T:

Averages of the 7 Swedish opinion polls conducted so far this year:

Socialists 23.9%
Moderate 23.1%
Sweden Democrats 21.5%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_general_election,_2018#Poll_results