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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I like James Max - he takes absolutely no nonsense from callers and isn't afraid to have an opinion when asked.

    I like his show on LBC, maybe because he does not yell at the microphone.

    Plato said:

    He's now a radio presenter - and just won an award for it IIRC.

    He'd be perfect MoL fodder post Boris - he's gay, Tory, well known via LBC, runs his own publishing house [Biteback] that specialises in political books, has diabetes, is in a civil partnership.

    He also likes Cliff Richard. How many boxes does that tick?!


    AveryLP said:

    TGOHF said:

    This is a comment on the YouGov site over the van posters


    "Also why's this van not outside big businesses saying; "Do you pay your corporation tax? If not text this number and we'll help you pay or remove your business from this country!"

    Labour party hq would be an appropriate spot too !
    Why ?

    Why not?

    Because if there is no sensible reason they may as well park a van outside your home .

    e>

    Unfortunately his performance in Norfolk North in 2005 shows he's not an electoral Titan, quite the opposite, which is a shame as I quite like him

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    old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    You do not want to me walking down Old Compton Street while they are giving out fliers for bars and clubs.

    I feel like the invisible man.
    fitalass said:

    I was recently contacted for the first time by Ipsos Mori, but as a woman of a certain age I was then very tactfully told that I was surplus to their requirements. :)

    Toms said:

    I wonder what the likelihood is of my being 'phoned by two different companies within a coupla weeks of each other. The 1st was Ipsos MORI and the 2nd was, err, different. Curiosity satisfied by the 1st, I sent the second one packing. If I am typical then that should be a factor in weighting---the "fed up effect". What really put me off was the sneaky questions, in passing as it were, about other factors in my life style---how many 'phones did I own etc.

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    isamisam Posts: 41,118

    OGH tweets:

    "The immigration poster at the heart of the CON-LD row. The Tories want it - the LDs are opposed"

    https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/362283653759393792/photo/1

    Tom Newton Dunn tweeted earlier:

    "Despite multiple offers to, @nick_clegg won't say he'll veto the 'go home' posters going nationwide."

    I expect Nick was too busy organising the photo op with his wife on the Thames - the one tim posted about endlessly.....

    "Now let’s see... you’re running the country while the PM is away and keen to get some good publicity after taking a recent hammering.
    So why not ditch the official Jaguar and meet the people on the commute into work?
    Better not to join the hordes on the sweaty Tube, the river bus is much nicer on a lovely summer morning, even if it is more expensive.
    And, gosh, how lucky, a photographer just happens to be there to record your ‘impromptu’ trip as you swig coffee, chat to fellow commuters and exchange loving glances with your wife... "


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2380771/Nick-Clegg-wife-Miriam-Durantez-Gonzalez-plus-snapper-course-love-boat-work.html#ixzz2aYa7EMlw

    Looks horribly Big Brother does that immigration poster
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    RogerRoger Posts: 19,155
    Good heavens JohnO being nice about me! I remember the occasion well. You were short but funny. Just like your posts.
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    EdM gave Maurice Glassman a peerage for Blue Labour and when he mentioned immigration being an issue - EdM ran a mile away and never mentioned him again.

    tim said:



    David Cameron a new type of Conservative.
    He's ended up sponsoring Go Home vans...

    It's John Cruddas I feel sorry for. Immigration was going to be Labour's killer new issue until Ed vacillated, wobbled and left Cruddas humiliated. Check out this historical curiosity:

    'Regaining the blue collar vote is crucial for both parties. This must involve understanding the blue collar mindset and the desire for economic security. Cruddas argues that, “Labour's future in England is conservative. “ If he is successful at reinserting the conservative element of the Labour tradition, Tory strategists should be very nervous indeed.

    He also understands concerns about immigration and welfare, once saying that immigration had been used as a “21st Century form of incomes policy.” We found that pledges to control welfare and cut immigration would be the two things that Labour could do to attract potential Labour voters.'

    http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/uk-politics/2012/05/appointing-jon-cruddas-was-masterstroke-labour
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Roger said:

    Good heavens JohnO being nice about me! I remember the occasion well. You were short but funny. Just like your posts.

    You haven't been drinking with that Japanese girl again?

    You are sparkling tonight.

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    Quite logical really.
    If you're here illegally the last thing that you want to do is to draw attention to yourself from the authorities.
    tim said:

    This is proper stats, PB Tories look away now

    @jdportes: Either there aren't that many illegal migrants in London, or they're strangely law-abiding... http://t.co/kJbrCMurt8

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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited July 2013
    As we await ComRes - could a guru remind us of their VI methodology?

    IIRC they gained the nickname of Comedy Res because of their loaded questions...
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,121
    edited July 2013
    Plato said:

    As we await ComRes - could a guru remind us of their methodology?

    IIRC they gained the nickname of Comedy Res because of their loaded questions...

    They got the name during the 2009 euros for publishing a poll commissioned by the Greens that showed the Greens on a really high figure.

    It was only a few days later, that we found that the poll was unweighted, unlike their normal practise.

    This is an phone poll coming up

    And we like phone polls.

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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,913
    https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/362283653759393792/photo/1

    I'm sorry but I fail to see why I should find this poster offensive or "racist".
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    JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,221
    @TSE - What did their last phone poll show? When was it?
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724

    https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/362283653759393792/photo/1

    I'm sorry but I fail to see why I should find this poster offensive or "racist".

    The run up to GE2015 has started. It's all downhill from here!
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    Also I guess that they're too busy working, labouring for builders, at car washes, takeaways etc to be getting into fights in pubs or causing anti social behaviour.
    tim said:

    Quite logical really.
    If you're here illegally the last thing that you want to do is to draw attention to yourself from the authorities.

    tim said:

    This is proper stats, PB Tories look away now

    @jdportes: Either there aren't that many illegal migrants in London, or they're strangely law-abiding... http://t.co/kJbrCMurt8

    Illegal immigration has reduced the crime rate in London?
    I've heard more illogical theories

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    RogerRoger Posts: 19,155
    @Sunil

    Except Roger the posters don't say immigrants go home but 'those here illegally....'

    I thought I better keep it simple in case the immigrants didn't understand English
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,121
    JohnO said:

    @TSE - What did their last phone poll show? When was it?

    Their last phone poll was end of June and had

    Tories 30

    Lab 36

    Yellow Peril 10

    Ukip 14
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    Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,375
    Plato said:

    EdM gave Maurice Glassman a peerage for Blue Labour and when he mentioned immigration being an issue - EdM ran a mile away and never mentioned him again.

    It was amusing to watch the 'strategy' in the early part of Miliband's tenure. Cruddas and his people would brief a sympathetic journalist (usually Mary Riddell) about Ed's looming speech on Europe/welfare/immigration that would 'reconnect' Labour with its roots and prelude a new paradigm in Leftist positioning. It never happened of course. Ed could never bring himself to face the displeasure of Polly Toynbee and her like. Still, there were even some on here who were taken in.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,082
    Neil said:

    fitalass said:


    Are you also suggesting that every crime prevention poster put out by the Home Office or your local police station over the last few decades is driven by a Government who wants to waste taxpayers money making a party points?

    No, I'm suggesting this one was a waste of taxpayers' money and aimed at nakedly party political ends. I really cant put it more simply than that.
    So you think Labour & Lib Dem policy is for illegals to stay?

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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724

    JohnO said:

    @TSE - What did their last phone poll show? When was it?

    Their last phone poll was end of June and had

    Tories 30

    Lab 36

    Yellow Peril 10

    Ukip 14
    And what adjustments do they make? Shy voters, certainty to vote et al?
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,913
    Roger said:

    @Sunil

    Except Roger the posters don't say immigrants go home but 'those here illegally....'

    I thought I better keep it simple in case the immigrants didn't understand English

    In case you haven't seen it Roger:

    https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/362283653759393792/photo/1
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118

    https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/362283653759393792/photo/1

    I'm sorry but I fail to see why I should find this poster offensive or "racist".

    It's amazing that anyone could find it racist. Where does it mention race??

    If the van went through London, where most people aren't white british, would the charges of racism be thrown at the Asian community for wanting illegal Eatern Europeans arrested?

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    NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,386
    If Avery likes ComRes they must show the Tories over 35...
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,082
    Roger said:

    I thought I better keep it simple in case the immigrants didn't understand English

    RACIST TOREE!!!!!

    Oh, sorry, you're Labour

    "Thoughtful out reacher".....
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,121
    Plato said:

    JohnO said:

    @TSE - What did their last phone poll show? When was it?

    Their last phone poll was end of June and had

    Tories 30

    Lab 36

    Yellow Peril 10

    Ukip 14
    And what adjustments do they make? Shy voters, certainty to vote et al?

    See here


    http://www.comres.co.uk/poll-digest/10/public-poll-methodology.htm
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724

    Roger said:

    I thought I better keep it simple in case the immigrants didn't understand English

    RACIST TOREE!!!!!

    Oh, sorry, you're Labour

    "Thoughtful out reacher".....
    Shurely 'sensitive to the cultural needs and diversity of the local community' ?
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,082
    Plato said:

    Roger said:

    I thought I better keep it simple in case the immigrants didn't understand English

    RACIST TOREE!!!!!

    Oh, sorry, you're Labour

    "Thoughtful out reacher".....
    Shurely 'sensitive to the cultural needs and diversity of the local community' ?
    I'm sure Roger will be along to suggest the appropriate epithet shortly.....

    ......I can see Labour wanting this illegal immigration discussion to roll on all the way to 2015.....
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    To lighten the mood and for Big Bang fans

    RT @TheRealSheldonC: Oh good Lord, why would anybody do this? pic.twitter.com/RKHdlhwa4x < LOL

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQcrvDbCAAERU86.jpg:large
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    If Avery likes ComRes they must show the Tories over 35...

    I caution you against believing anything Avery says, Nick.
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Plato said:

    To lighten the mood and for Big Bang fans

    RT @TheRealSheldonC: Oh good Lord, why would anybody do this? pic.twitter.com/RKHdlhwa4x < LOL

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQcrvDbCAAERU86.jpg:large

    Brilliant.

    PB is on form tonight.

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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    tim said:

    Also I guess that they're too busy working, labouring for builders, at car washes, takeaways etc to be getting into fights in pubs or causing anti social behaviour.

    tim said:

    Quite logical really.
    If you're here illegally the last thing that you want to do is to draw attention to yourself from the authorities.

    tim said:

    This is proper stats, PB Tories look away now

    @jdportes: Either there aren't that many illegal migrants in London, or they're strangely law-abiding... http://t.co/kJbrCMurt8

    Illegal immigration has reduced the crime rate in London?
    I've heard more illogical theories

    If illegal immigration reduces crime, immigration into London has raised educational standards, immigrants are twice as likely to start businesses and half as likely to claim benefits, then wouldn't it be logical to as all those British people who are opposed to these immigrants to go and live in another country and bring in some more immigrants?

    We could send a van around saying "Go to Spain" Text Xenophobe to 0800 909 213.

    Actually there's one flaw in that, spelling xenophobe

    Yes that's it! Make countries better to live in, according to statistics, by getting rid of the people who live there and replacing them! That'll work...

    An immigration Ponzi scheme!
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    NeilNeil Posts: 7,983

    Neil said:

    fitalass said:


    Are you also suggesting that every crime prevention poster put out by the Home Office or your local police station over the last few decades is driven by a Government who wants to waste taxpayers money making a party points?

    No, I'm suggesting this one was a waste of taxpayers' money and aimed at nakedly party political ends. I really cant put it more simply than that.
    So you think Labour & Lib Dem policy is for illegals to stay?

    Are you just dreaming up random questions now?
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    isam said:

    If the van went through London, where most people aren't white british, would the charges of racism be thrown at the Asian community for wanting illegal Eatern Europeans arrested?

    No, in the card game of political correctness, Asian trumps Eastern European unless you're holding a Slav Muslim Gypsy undercard.
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    isam said:

    tim said:

    Also I guess that they're too busy working, labouring for builders, at car washes, takeaways etc to be getting into fights in pubs or causing anti social behaviour.

    tim said:

    Quite logical really.
    If you're here illegally the last thing that you want to do is to draw attention to yourself from the authorities.

    tim said:

    This is proper stats, PB Tories look away now

    @jdportes: Either there aren't that many illegal migrants in London, or they're strangely law-abiding... http://t.co/kJbrCMurt8

    Illegal immigration has reduced the crime rate in London?
    I've heard more illogical theories

    If illegal immigration reduces crime, immigration into London has raised educational standards, immigrants are twice as likely to start businesses and half as likely to claim benefits, then wouldn't it be logical to as all those British people who are opposed to these immigrants to go and live in another country and bring in some more immigrants?

    We could send a van around saying "Go to Spain" Text Xenophobe to 0800 909 213.

    Actually there's one flaw in that, spelling xenophobe

    Yes that's it! Make countries better to live in, according to statistics, by getting rid of the people who live there and replacing them! That'll work...

    An immigration Ponzi scheme!
    Except where tim lives.

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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,913
    Plato said:

    To lighten the mood and for Big Bang fans

    RT @TheRealSheldonC: Oh good Lord, why would anybody do this? pic.twitter.com/RKHdlhwa4x < LOL

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQcrvDbCAAERU86.jpg:large

    Thanks for that, Penny! I mean Plato :)
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    GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323
    @tim - "illegal immigration reduces crime" is not a logically valid conclusion from the evidence. Even if illegal immigrants had a lower crime rate than the general population, they'd still commit more crimes than having no illegal migrants at all.

    In addition, what imperative do you think this justifies? After all, "illegal" does typically mean deportation - other than amnesty.
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    Clear out the benefit claiming chav classes?
    You are Alan B'Stard and I claim my £5
    tim said:

    Also I guess that they're too busy working, labouring for builders, at car washes, takeaways etc to be getting into fights in pubs or causing anti social behaviour.

    tim said:

    Quite logical really.
    If you're here illegally the last thing that you want to do is to draw attention to yourself from the authorities.

    tim said:

    This is proper stats, PB Tories look away now

    @jdportes: Either there aren't that many illegal migrants in London, or they're strangely law-abiding... http://t.co/kJbrCMurt8

    Illegal immigration has reduced the crime rate in London?
    I've heard more illogical theories

    If illegal immigration reduces crime, immigration into London has raised educational standards, immigrants are twice as likely to start businesses and half as likely to claim benefits, then wouldn't it be logical to as all those British people who are opposed to these immigrants to go and live in another country and bring in some more immigrants?

    We could send a van around saying "Go to Spain" Text Xenophobe to 0800 909 213.

    Actually there's one flaw in that, spelling xenophobe
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    edited July 2013
    ComRes allocates don't knows 100% on the party they say they most identify with.

    Plato said:

    JohnO said:

    @TSE - What did their last phone poll show? When was it?

    Their last phone poll was end of June and had

    Tories 30

    Lab 36

    Yellow Peril 10

    Ukip 14
    And what adjustments do they make? Shy voters, certainty to vote et al?

    See here


    http://www.comres.co.uk/poll-digest/10/public-poll-methodology.htm
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    tim said:

    Neil said:

    Neil said:

    fitalass said:


    Are you also suggesting that every crime prevention poster put out by the Home Office or your local police station over the last few decades is driven by a Government who wants to waste taxpayers money making a party points?

    No, I'm suggesting this one was a waste of taxpayers' money and aimed at nakedly party political ends. I really cant put it more simply than that.
    So you think Labour & Lib Dem policy is for illegals to stay?

    Are you just dreaming up random questions now?
    All parties support a de facto amnesty don't they?
    They just haven't the balls to admit it
    Your party can give a amnesty in 2015 if they get in,how many years will it take before we need another one after the soft touch word gets round the world,1,2, 5 years tim,how many ?

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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,913
    @tim

    You still haven't told us what percentage of your local area's population are immigrants!
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    GeoffM said:

    isam said:

    If the van went through London, where most people aren't white british, would the charges of racism be thrown at the Asian community for wanting illegal Eatern Europeans arrested?

    No, in the card game of political correctness, Asian trumps Eastern European unless you're holding a Slav Muslim Gypsy undercard.
    LOL
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    tim said:

    isam said:

    tim said:

    Also I guess that they're too busy working, labouring for builders, at car washes, takeaways etc to be getting into fights in pubs or causing anti social behaviour.

    tim said:

    Quite logical really.
    If you're here illegally the last thing that you want to do is to draw attention to yourself from the authorities.

    tim said:

    This is proper stats, PB Tories look away now

    @jdportes: Either there aren't that many illegal migrants in London, or they're strangely law-abiding... http://t.co/kJbrCMurt8

    Illegal immigration has reduced the crime rate in London?
    I've heard more illogical theories

    If illegal immigration reduces crime, immigration into London has raised educational standards, immigrants are twice as likely to start businesses and half as likely to claim benefits, then wouldn't it be logical to as all those British people who are opposed to these immigrants to go and live in another country and bring in some more immigrants?

    We could send a van around saying "Go to Spain" Text Xenophobe to 0800 909 213.

    Actually there's one flaw in that, spelling xenophobe

    Yes that's it! Make countries better to live in, according to statistics, by getting rid of the people who live there and replacing them! That'll work...

    An immigration Ponzi scheme!

    That's it!

    Go To Spain or the desolate uninhabited North xenophobe - Text Ponzi to 0800 563 658
    Somewhere in the Costa Del Sol, an Andalusian who feels a stranger in his hometown is being called racist and told how great for the economy the English pensioners are by a Galician
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,169
    edited July 2013
    Hugely late to the game, but how valid is the comparison, given that Thatcher was a woman, and attitudes to the fairer sex were a bit different back then.
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    @tim

    You still haven't told us what percentage of your local area's population are immigrants!

    Leave it sunil,I saw his earlier insulting post towards you.
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited July 2013
    Rob Marchant @rob_marchant
    Just got round to BBC's "Fight Over Falkirk", in which Seumas Milne is the star witness, Unite exonerated. Clueless. bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03…

    Seamus Milne? Crikey!
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    MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792

    @tim

    You still haven't told us what percentage of your local area's population are immigrants!

    Leave it sunil,I saw his earlier insulting post towards you.
    tim's notorious " Ask your mother " post directed at good Sunil was worthy of Woolas. Revealing and revolting.

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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Clear out the benefit claiming chav classes?
    You are Alan B'Stard and I claim my £5

    tim said:

    Also I guess that they're too busy working, labouring for builders, at car washes, takeaways etc to be getting into fights in pubs or causing anti social behaviour.

    tim said:

    Quite logical really.
    If you're here illegally the last thing that you want to do is to draw attention to yourself from the authorities.

    tim said:

    This is proper stats, PB Tories look away now

    @jdportes: Either there aren't that many illegal migrants in London, or they're strangely law-abiding... http://t.co/kJbrCMurt8

    Illegal immigration has reduced the crime rate in London?
    I've heard more illogical theories

    If illegal immigration reduces crime, immigration into London has raised educational standards, immigrants are twice as likely to start businesses and half as likely to claim benefits, then wouldn't it be logical to as all those British people who are opposed to these immigrants to go and live in another country and bring in some more immigrants?

    We could send a van around saying "Go to Spain" Text Xenophobe to 0800 909 213.

    Actually there's one flaw in that, spelling xenophobe
    I wonder how much a certain part of labour voters know how much the new labour types of the labour party thinks of them.

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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    @tim

    You still haven't told us what percentage of your local area's population are immigrants!

    "tim's" cows are from Frieisland. Would they count ?

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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,121
    Pay wall

    Spin doctor

    Peter Capaldi, the Scottish actor best known for playing the sweary Malcolm Tucker in The Thick of It, is the new bookies’ favourite to be the next Doctor Who. William Hill had not taken any money on him before Sunday but had to cut the odds to 2-1 yesterday after 40 bets were placed in 24 hours, an avalanche in such a small market.
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    LOL

    John Rentoul retweeted
    5m

    Louise Mensch @LouiseMensch
    Am afraid, Twitter's @delbius, I have to report you to the Plain English Society. "We're always iterating on our processes more generally"
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,084
    Good evening, everyone.

    Comparing Ed Miliband to Margaret Thatcher is like comparing Honorius to Aurelian.
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    tim said:

    @tim

    You still haven't told us what percentage of your local area's population are immigrants!

    Leave it sunil,I saw his earlier insulting post towards you.
    What was insulting about it, Sunils mum will remember the Go Home placards of the 70's
    The insulting part of it was Sunil's mum was legally here pal.

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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    @MonikerDiCanio

    Well done! You got a HortenceWithering troll flag!

    Maybe you get a prize if you collect 5 of them.

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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    If you don't follow @StellaCreasy on twitter, you're missing a treat. She's very entertaining.
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Pay wall

    Spin doctor

    Peter Capaldi, the Scottish actor best known for playing the sweary Malcolm Tucker in The Thick of It, is the new bookies’ favourite to be the next Doctor Who. William Hill had not taken any money on him before Sunday but had to cut the odds to 2-1 yesterday after 40 bets were placed in 24 hours, an avalanche in such a small market.

    Brilliant news if true.

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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,913
    tim said:

    @tim

    You still haven't told us what percentage of your local area's population are immigrants!

    Leave it sunil,I saw his earlier insulting post towards you.
    What was insulting about it, Sunils mum will remember the Go Home placards of the 70's
    But she's not here illegally, you troll!
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    GeoffM said:

    @MonikerDiCanio

    Well done! You got a HortenceWithering troll flag!

    Maybe you get a prize if you collect 5 of them.

    Hortence has been swinging her handbag since 6:00 am this morning.

    Some gal, our Hortence.
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118

    tim said:

    @tim

    You still haven't told us what percentage of your local area's population are immigrants!

    Leave it sunil,I saw his earlier insulting post towards you.
    What was insulting about it, Sunils mum will remember the Go Home placards of the 70's
    The insulting part of it was Sunil's mum was legally here pal.

    How do we know Sunils mum isn't Anglo Saxon?

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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    AveryLP said:


    Hortence has been swinging her handbag since 6:00 am this morning.
    Some gal, our Hortence.

    I want one. *sulks*

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    NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,386
    edited July 2013



    ComRes allocates don't knows 100% on the party they say they most identify with.

    http://www.comres.co.uk/poll-digest/10/public-poll-methodology.htm

    Yes, it's a major differennce from ICM/Populus, which has tended to lead to higher UKIP levels than other pollsters. If the figures are e.g.
    Tory 29 and 6 Tory before and now don't know
    Lab 33 and 6 Lab before and now don't know
    LibDems 8 and 6 before etc.
    UKIP 8 before and 4 DK

    and (to make it simple) if half the don't knows lean UKIP and the rest won't say, then as I understand it ICM's result will be 32/36/11/10, but ComRes will on the SAME data report 29/33/8/19. In reality the differences are smaller because some DKs do lean towards their former parties, but it shows how important the assumptions are.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,913
    isam said:

    tim said:

    @tim

    You still haven't told us what percentage of your local area's population are immigrants!

    Leave it sunil,I saw his earlier insulting post towards you.
    What was insulting about it, Sunils mum will remember the Go Home placards of the 70's
    The insulting part of it was Sunil's mum was legally here pal.

    How do we know Sunils mum isn't Anglo Saxon?

    Actually she isn't! Been here over 40 years though.
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    Probably not very much. We had Gordon and his bigoted woman quote, Chukka and his trash comment.
    The upper middle class poncing Islington Fabian types have always held the working class in contempt.

    Clear out the benefit claiming chav classes?
    You are Alan B'Stard and I claim my £5

    tim said:

    Also I guess that they're too busy working, labouring for builders, at car washes, takeaways etc to be getting into fights in pubs or causing anti social behaviour.

    tim said:

    Quite logical really.
    If you're here illegally the last thing that you want to do is to draw attention to yourself from the authorities.

    tim said:

    This is proper stats, PB Tories look away now

    @jdportes: Either there aren't that many illegal migrants in London, or they're strangely law-abiding... http://t.co/kJbrCMurt8

    Illegal immigration has reduced the crime rate in London?
    I've heard more illogical theories

    If illegal immigration reduces crime, immigration into London has raised educational standards, immigrants are twice as likely to start businesses and half as likely to claim benefits, then wouldn't it be logical to as all those British people who are opposed to these immigrants to go and live in another country and bring in some more immigrants?

    We could send a van around saying "Go to Spain" Text Xenophobe to 0800 909 213.

    Actually there's one flaw in that, spelling xenophobe
    I wonder how much a certain part of labour voters know how much the new labour types of the labour party thinks of them.

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    100% of illegal immigrants have committed a crime
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    GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323
    My oddest immigration-related moment was seeing on television a group of black women of West Indian heritage in Glasgow (of all places) bemoaning immigrants "coming here, taking our jobs" (etc.) It was rather surreal, especially with the thick (mixed) accents they had.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 115,121
    New thread.
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Tim wants to cloud illegal immigration with my fellow Britons,don't let him split us.
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    Quite logical really.
    If you're here illegally the last thing that you want to do is to draw attention to yourself from the authorities.

    tim said:

    This is proper stats, PB Tories look away now

    @jdportes: Either there aren't that many illegal migrants in London, or they're strangely law-abiding... http://t.co/kJbrCMurt8

    Shouldn't we allow more illegal immigrants then ? The whole country could be crime free. Maybe, make them police officers..., border force ...
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    surbiton said:

    Quite logical really.
    If you're here illegally the last thing that you want to do is to draw attention to yourself from the authorities.

    tim said:

    This is proper stats, PB Tories look away now

    @jdportes: Either there aren't that many illegal migrants in London, or they're strangely law-abiding... http://t.co/kJbrCMurt8

    Shouldn't we allow more illegal immigrants then ? The whole country could be crime free. Maybe, make them police officers..., border force ...
    New thread with a new poll,you will enjoy the new poll = lol

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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,700
    JackW - Don't forget Hague
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