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Polling day came a few days later May 3rd 1979. The Tories won an emphatic victory with an 8% lead on votes and an overall majority of 44 seats and went on to secure overall majorities in the next three general elections. They stayed in power for eighteen years.
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Hhmm .... it's a thought .... but a horrible one !!
Fracking OK for 'desolate' North East, says Tory peer
Fracking should be carried out in the North East of England, where there are large, "desolate" areas, a former energy secretary has said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23505723#
There's time to turn round that perception, but if he's got any sense, it should be his number one priority right now.
Thought not .... well apart from some in the Cheshire farming community as Ed and Labour head for the exit.
1) they're 100% true
2) they powerfully reinforce stereotypes about the political party he represents
3) they result in this kind of guff:
"She [Baroness Verma] told Baroness Farrington: "I'm sure that my noble friend did not say that Lancashire was [not] as beautiful. All parts of this great country are beautiful." "
I can only assume that the good baroness hasn't been to south Essex, where fracking would dramatically improve the scenery.
Baroness Quin (Labour peer from NE) is writing to Lord Howell to ask him exactly where these 'uninhabited and desolate' parts of NE are
http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/story/2013-07-30/desolate-ne-fine-for-fracking/
http://i.imgur.com/6hDIbNn.png
PM's fish purchasing behaviors
NHS customers no longer drinking from vases but non urgent referral line could be improved
Tory peer describes uninhabited areas as "uninhabited"
You can gauge the way the wind's blowing by the shrillness of the bleaters on either side and there's one side bleating very loud and very shrill at the moment
North East England is one of the nine regions of England that are classified at the first level of NUTS for statistical purposes. It covers Northumberland, County Durham, Tyne and Wear, and Teesside, which is partly in North Yorkshire
I am getting sick of your partisan whining.
(Not that I think Miliband is on Thatcher's level, but the point being that what we see in hindsight is very different from what people see at the time and especially ahead of time).
'Some have also sought to defend Howell’s comments by saying that this will bring manufacturing jobs to the North East. But if the rural North East is so “desolate”, where are these workers going to come from?' No-one wants to see more manufacturing jobs in the North East than I do'
They would like the jobs but no workers are available if the job's more than 10 minutes walk from home.
And when immigrants come in and take the jobs lefties will be whining again about British jobs for British workers..
https://twitter.com/moseleytom/status/362202825368948736/photo/1
it's deja vu with Miliband and Brown - he's misunderstood - he has a plan - wait until he has a chance to shine - his vision is coming - he can turn it around - he's a deep thinker - he's great one to one - he lights up a room - he's the future of the left etc etc...
Sorry but there is no evidence that Miliband has anything behind the curtain - nowt , nil , nada, zip.
Not being Cameron isn't enough.
Ed joins Foot, Kinnock, IDS and Howard in being part of a lengthening list of LotO who had a minimal to zero chance of becoming PM. We know it, enough Labour voters know it, the wider public know it and Ed probably knows it.
Sadly we all have almost two years for the clock to run down to the inevitable !!
'you're gonna get your fracking heads kicked in'
So will the main opposition lose 8 points from the 36 they had reached in July 2013?
Will the main Govt party add 1 point on their 36? Will the LDs gain 4?
Something is clearly amiss, then...
Next Prime Minister
Ed Miliband 4/6
The fact it is bleak and depressingly empty is one of its wonders. And it's not alone in the northeast of England. Which I have to remind people does not end at Newcastle.
The Cheviots and the hills just south of the border are possibly one of England's last wildernesses. A fantastic place. It's just a shame that the forestry commission ruined large tracts, although the need was there.
So yes, parts are desolate. And wonderfully so.
Desolate - by anyone's book.
Nice bit of fracking will give a welcome boost to the local economy.
Ed's biggest problem, as also noted down-thread, is *why* he's not seen as best PM: it's because he's not seen as PM material at all by far too many. He'll continue to be seen as weak, wonkish and in the hands of the unions, because it's all too easy to paint him as such. Indeed, he often does the job himself.
Nevertheless, "best PM" ratings are froth, no-one should pay much attention to them.
I also think Antifrank is right to highlight polling internals. Not so much amongst the public at large (who cares if Tories think Ed is crap?) but amongst the crucial 2010 Lib & Lab group.
Ed needs solid ratings amongst that group, not so much to win their support for Labour - it's looking solid enough as it is - but to motivate them to turn out, to pursuade them that Ed's Labour will indeed be a massive improvement on the hated Cameron's Tories.
Men - Highest rate of heart attacks, highest lung cancer rate in UK.
Women - Highest lung cancer among women in England.
Highest unemployment among youths aged 16–24.
Most multiple deprivation in England.
Unemployment is a severe problem in the North East, where many children grow up in households where no adult works.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_East_England
Oh, and the North East has a strong tendency to vote Labour...
Still waiting for @YouGov to publish the detail from their immigration van ad polling
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/fjbakrwrnl/YouGov-Sun-results-130729-Immigration-Van.pdf
There this morning....
or seen the rascal suits you wear
At least it wasn't as bad as Lincolnshire, which I kept on misspelling as Lincolnshi*te when typing on my Psion 5. A large number of these typos mysteriously went live on my website. ;-)
The highlight of the Essex coast for me was the chapel at Bradwell-on-Sea, one of the oldest churches in Britain. The stretch of the coastline south from Bradwell to the River Crouch and Foulness Island is extremely desolate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapel_of_St_Peter-on-the-Wall
Which is little to do with politics, but at least doesn't contain the word 'fop' or 'twit'. Until now.
Many on the right are fairly contemptuous of David Cameron, but if they regard Ed Miliband as dangerously weak and in hock to the unions, they might well still hold their noses and vote for the Conservatives to keep Labour out.
You can already see that phenomenon on here. Neither Sean Fear nor Plato are exactly enthusiastic Cameroons, but both are currently back on the Tory bus, it seems.
Tim, I assume Lord Howell thinks East Yorkshire and Humberside are the desolate North East.
Tory peer "foolish and ill-informed" to say fracking should take place in the "desolate" North-East
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/10580087.Tory_peer__foolish_and_ill_informed__to_say_fracking_should_take_place_in_the__desolate__North_East/
I had some of the younger generation over for the weekend. At their prompting, I showed off a few of the items in the wardrobe. They were a bit disappointed that the silver suit wasn't more silvery, but the gold suit completely lived up to their expectations.
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/10580087.Tory_peer__foolish_and_ill_informed__to_say_fracking_should_take_place_in_the__desolate__North_East/
I urge you re-instate "scampi"
This site and you as founder are robust enough to brush off a minor mid afternoon spat.
Which only goes to prove that Leader ratings are a nonsense. A PM is always in the news and usually has an unfair advantage whatever he/she does. Obviously a party leader who is not even a leader of the main opposition will be nowhere in these polls.
I don't subscribe. The main concern is clearly whether the said 'billions' in savings will actually happen. I wonder if any other poster could indicate if the rest of the article illuminates that?
So Jack, what would you price it at (given "minimal to zero chance"?). Being generous to you, will you give me 1,000/1 on Ed Miliband being our next Prime Minister?
'Net agree': -30.......
I see that current estimates of potential gas resources in the North of the UK are in the region of £1trillion. Certainly the amount of work clients are and have been putting our way shows their interest is not casual.
What about a poll of PB? :-)
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/30/woman-asks-strangers-for-sex_n_3674756.html?ncid=webmail2
2. For all her skill's Maggie probably wouldn't have beaten Callaghan if the Unions hadn't totally lost the plot and committed Hari-Kari during the long cold winter of 1979.
I used similar terms like "minimal to zero chance" about IDS and Howard on here and prior Foot, Kinnock and Hague enjoyed the same treatment.
Wasn't wrong was I ?!?
" “I mean there obviously are, in beautiful natural areas, worries about not just the drilling and the fracking, which I think are exaggerated, but about the trucks, and the delivery, and the roads, and the disturbance, and those about justified worries,” he said.
“But there are large and uninhabited and desolate areas. Certainly in part of the North East where there’s plenty of room for fracking, well away from anybody’s residence where we could conduct without any kind of threat to the rural environment.”
I'm struggling to see what's so bad about it if it helps create jobs - coal mining isn't exactly the most picturesque industry either.
I can't understand why everyone is so slow to embrace Shale Gas. It could provide unlimited, cheap, energy for decades, thousands of jobs directly and countless more employment opportunities indirectly, in some of the most deprived places in the country - We should get on with it ASAP, IMO.
I wish they'd bugger off and let the locals have their own say. We had them near me over a bypass/road improvement and they're nothing but aggro/pushing their views onto everyone else. And then they bugger off to somewhere else and do the same again.
Luckily labour were able to engineer a meaningful regeneration in these deprived heartland areas in their 13 years in government.
Oh wait.....
I wonder if, before they started using coal to power the industrial revolution, whether NIMBYS, hand-wringers and luvvies tried to hold up the advancement of society because they thought the mines might spoil the "natural beauty" of the countryside and knock a few thousand off their house prices?
http://balcombeparishcouncil.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/fracking-poll-results.pdf
But if it's profitable and companies desperately want to do it here in the UK, what exactly is holding them back? Government policy?
Or the same kind of NIMBYism that holds back renewables (though I'd much rather have a pretty wind farm that enhances the environment in my back yard than a dirty hulking fracking rig)
But the stupidity of the comments from this Tufftington Buffington Tory idiot aren't about fracking, they're about his prejudice and ignorance (which is all too common in the Tory Party).