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In fairness one was an OG.foxinsoxuk said:
Amazing! Who would have thought Man U could score twice in the same game! Not happened in years (or so it seems!)Scrapheap_as_was said:crazy crazy football
LVG a genius? Moyes' teams were better than this.0 -
Great stuff Foxes.foxinsoxuk said:
Amazing! Who would have thought Man U could score twice in the same game! Not happened in years (or so it seems!)Scrapheap_as_was said:crazy crazy football
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Well, they are certainly widening my education, for one - I'd never heard of him/her/it/them.TheScreamingEagles said:Tonight, Corbyn gave us the politics of Enver
@stephenkb: Multiple attendees confirm that Corbyn did, in fact, quote Enver Hoxha: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2015/12/jeremy-corbyn-quotes-enver-hoxha-labour-party-christmas-party …0 -
All of those Kippers should make things interesting. If they push on they could even be the main opposition.TheScreamingEagles said:@gsoh31: Welsh 2016 election headlines from @roger_scully... Lab minority gov? Looks like they may lose a few seats on 2011.
http://www.itv.com/news/wales/2015-12-08/polls-shows-slip-in-labour-support/ …0 -
BigRich said:
very likely unless it was a criticism of UK policy as well.dr_spyn said:BigRich said:
This is another amusing economics video.flightpath01 said:TheScreamingEagles said:
If we have a recession, 2020 will be like 1992 with knobs on.Pulpstar said:
The 2015 election was decided off the back of a relatively benign economic background. You know how a recession can change political views.TheScreamingEagles said:Bitter much ?
Ten years of David Cameron makes the case for Jeremy Corbyn better than anyone
It's been ten years of failure and deceit.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2015/12/ten-years-david-cameron-makes-case-jeremy-corbyn-better-anyone
Don't go laying Corbyn next PM at ~ 9-1 just yet...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXcLVDhS8fM
Thanks Dr_Spyn,
Very good, but why where the lady's in the back tacking off Union Jack Bikini tops?
Is it because Keynes was British?0 -
Apparently, Trump has locked up the KKK vote...
David Duke, the former imperial wizard of the Klu Klu Klan, was among a procession of white supremacists, who came to Mr Trump's defence on Tuesday0 -
It's far natural to be able to identify with someone of a similar background to yours that to instinctively judge someone based on negative racial stereotypes. Those two comparisons are completely mismatched. The police are not there to make a community feel good, you are right. But it is important that communities feel they have trust in the police. Because that helps the police to do their jobs. If large communities do not trust the police, then that is a huge issue for them when it comes to enforcing the law. Not in the least because it means if people cannot trust the police, they do not feel they police are making them feel safe and secure. It is not about the police not dealing with people because they are 'like them'. That's certainly something I've never said or proposed. Whether many on PB like or not, the issue of communities not trusting the police is a big one, and far more complex than your last paragraph suggests.
I'm well aware of how big a problem trust in the police is for some communities. While I was still qualifying as a lawyer I did voluntary legal work for the North Ken Law Centre - Notting HIll/Ladbroke Grove before they became famous and trendy - and most of the clients were young black men, usually mixed race with one West Indian parent, often in care, and generally involved in drugs and muggings. They had done bad things but were not the worst guys I've met: lost souls largely, suffering from poor parenting, rubbish education. falling into gangs, but could be individually charming and deserved better. The police had to deal with them and their crimes over and over again and being a victim of their crimes was no fun. It was not a surprise that the police tended to take a jaundiced view of young black men nor that they, in their turn, had a jaundiced view of authority figures. They largely needed a father and some consistent and loving boundaries and discipline.
But the way for the police to earn trust is to behave well. Actions speak louder than words. And they speak even more loudly than simple appearances.
There is far too much sentimentality in our attitude to complex problems. And this focus on the appearance of things is one example of such sentimentality. It is not what the police look like that ultimately matters. It is how they behave. And that applies to all of them, whatever their background and personal characteristics. That is why we put them in uniform - so that they stop being Mr Mohammed Smith or whatever - and become Police Officer XYZ representing the forces of law and order in which we can all, whatever our background and personal characteristics, trust.
As always Ms Cyclefree, beautifully presented. Would ethnically matched communities and policemen be discriminatory in the appointment of the policemen, which is obviously the way the match would have to be made?0 -
Have we?tyson said:It's thanks to racism that we now have all become convulsed by Islamophobia.
Sean_F said:
It's thanks to the finding of "institutional racism" that we now have police turning a blind eye to child rape in Rotherham and other places.The_Apocalypse said:
As I said in a previous post, the report released after the Lawrence case concluded the police were institutionally racist.MP_SE said:
All of the police were historically racist?The_Apocalypse said:
Basically, I think we should have more BME and women in the police force. And I've said the police were historically racist in the past and that is why many communities mistrust them.TOPPING said:Off/On-topic.
Just got back, skim-reading the thread. What on earth has @The_Apocalypse done that has got everyone on his/her back??0 -
Though are not Welsh kippers even more "colourful" than English kippers? Though falling short of the Scottish kippers.SandyRentool said:
All of those Kippers should make things interesting. If they push on they could even be the main opposition.TheScreamingEagles said:@gsoh31: Welsh 2016 election headlines from @roger_scully... Lab minority gov? Looks like they may lose a few seats on 2011.
http://www.itv.com/news/wales/2015-12-08/polls-shows-slip-in-labour-support/ …0 -
Sorry Peeps, but you, and the rest of the political bubble, are going to be inundated with the SNPHQ doing their normal attempts at diversion over the next few weeks. It seems that even well kent snp supporters like Martin Hannan in the Edinburgh Evening News suspect all is not well in the bowels of Holyrood over the Forth Road Bridge debacle.
Plus the suspicion amongst many that the only reason Sturgeon turned up in Paris was to do her Christmas shopping.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/leader-who-s-to-blame-for-forth-road-bridge-debacle-1-3969622
Some how, I suspect a lot of the selfies taken with the FM are going to be quietly deleted from a lot of phones over the next few weeks.0 -
This is an interesting piece on how CL places are earned.Scrapheap_as_was said:Welcome to Thursday Football.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11945/10093292/europa-league-success-could-save-premier-leagues-fourth-champions-league-spot
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Probably a Labour/Plaid coalition. Left wing dominance of Wales is being whittled away, but very slowly.TheScreamingEagles said:@gsoh31: Welsh 2016 election headlines from @roger_scully... Lab minority gov? Looks like they may lose a few seats on 2011.
http://www.itv.com/news/wales/2015-12-08/polls-shows-slip-in-labour-support/ …0 -
@BrianSpanner1: Great stuff.
FM Nicola Sturgeon opens the new #Forthroadbridge crossing. https://t.co/ZmUjUTVZnN0 -
Well, SNP numbers are technically, if not in actuality, down, so I guess they could use another win to increase the numbers again.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
I'm arguing against stereotyping. You're the one who seems to think that the group someone belongs to is somehow a relevant factor in recruitment because such a person will "look like" them or make others feel that they are "one of us".The_Apocalypse said:I do not want to institutionalise racism. That is a misrepresentation of my argument. I have not even argued for positive discrimination, or quotas.
@Sean_F No, that is the incompetent of the police that is to blame. And most likely some sexist attitudes towards the victims ass well.
On being a 'victim' of their crimes, as I said previously young black people, are as much victims of crimes as they are criminals. If we stereotype them as criminals, we need to also stereotype them as victims. In regard to the overall argument, I think @Anorak makes a very a good argument indeed.Cyclefree said:
There is far too much sentimentality in our attitude to complex problems. And this focus on the appearance of things is one example of such sentimentality. It is not what the police look like that ultimately matters. It is how they behave. And that applies to all of them, whatever their background and personal characteristics. That is why we put them in uniform - so that they stop being Mr Mohammed Smith or whatever - and become Police Officer XYZ representing the forces of law and order in which we can all, whatever our background and personal characteristics, trust.
It was the black community that, when they realised how many young black men and women were victims of crime, demanded that the police do their job. Not that they have more black officers primarily but that those police officers, whatever their colour, do their job of dealing with such crime. Maybe - just maybe - the police's concern about how to behave, given the "institutionally racist" finding, made them both ultra cautious and/or scared of getting involved. They risked being accused of racism by both the victims (by neglecting them) and by the perpetrators.
The law of unintended consequences, maybe. Better for the police to have a laser like focus on crime than a focus on fending off accusations by those with multiple agendas, many of them nothing to do with the police's job.
Anyway, thank you for the discussion.
I am off to Paris early tomorrow with one of my favourite people in the world so I need my beauty sleep. If you don't hear from me for a bit it's because I intend having some fun!
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@DanHannanMEP: Darth Trump. The utter self-absorption, bordering on clinical narcissism, of @realDonaldTrump, hilariously captured. https://t.co/zWafkqUueA0
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He might have been able to cook the result, possibly not very wellTOPPING said:
Or would you have preferred Ainsley Harrison?TheScreamingEagles said:
Should have gone for Sol CampbellTOPPING said:Being wise before after the event, what a shame the Cons didn't ask Shaun Bailey to stand instead of some OE up his own arse entitled green nob.
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I have put a couple of quid on Tyson. Imagine the fun on the BBC if he wins. I feel a twitter campaign coming on...John_M said:
I can't wait to vote for Tyson as SPOTY. This is the kind of thing that brings the police into disrepute - though their hands are tied due to some extremely ill-thought through legislation.FrancisUrquhart said:Tyson Fury: Police investigate complaint of hate crime
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-35046629
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Trump is only popular because the left have spent 40 years closing down rational debate about immigration. People with mildly centre-right views on the subject have been labelled as racist during that time.Scott_P said:@DanHannanMEP: Darth Trump. The utter self-absorption, bordering on clinical narcissism, of @realDonaldTrump, hilariously captured. https://t.co/zWafkqUueA
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You mean this isn't fun to you??!Cyclefree said:
I'm arguing against stereotyping. You're the one who seems to think that the group someone belongs to is somehow a relevant factor in recruitment because such a person will "look like" them or make others feel that they are "one of us".The_Apocalypse said:I do not want to institutionalise racism. That is a misrepresentation of my argument. I have not even argued for positive discrimination, or quotas.
@Sean_F No, that is the incompetent of the police that is to blame. And most likely some sexist attitudes towards the victims ass well.
On being a 'victim' of their crimes, as I said previously young black people, are as much victims of crimes as they are criminals. If we stereotype them as criminals, we need to also stereotype them as victims. In regard to the overall argument, I think @Anorak makes a very a good argument indeed.Cyclefree said:
There is far too much sentimentality in our attitude to complex problems. And this focus on the appearance of things is one example of such sentimentality. It is not what the police look like that ultimately matters. It is how they behave. And that applies to all of them, whatever their background and personal characteristics. That is why we put them in uniform - so that they stop being Mr Mohammed Smith or whatever - and become Police Officer XYZ representing the forces of law and order in which we can all, whatever our background and personal characteristics, trust.
It was the black community that, when they realised how many young black men and women were victims of crime, demanded that the police do their job. Not that they have more black officers primarily but that those police officers, whatever their colour, do their job of dealing with such crime. Maybe - just maybe - the police's concern about how to behave, given the "institutionally racist" finding, made them both ultra cautious and/or scared of getting involved. They risked being accused of racism by both the victims (by neglecting them) and by the perpetrators.
The law of unintended consequences, maybe. Better for the police to have a laser like focus on crime than a focus on fending off accusations by those with multiple agendas, many of them nothing to do with the police's job.
Anyway, thank you for the discussion.
I am off to Paris early tomorrow with one of my favourite people in the world so I need my beauty sleep. If you don't hear from me for a bit it's because I intend having some fun!
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...says the bloke with the stupid mother.tyson said:I don't want to get into a battle of semantics, but I can't quite remember our collective revulsion against African christian sects that murdered children, and beat women to death to cure them off devils.
Even my mum is talking this Islamaphobic claptrap that I would only ever usually see from the usual idiots, SeanT et al at pbCOM.
Thankfully Donald Fart has overstepped the mark yesterday. Hopefully now we can kick this repellant, horrible, racism speak into the long grass.David_Evershed said:
No. It's thanks to religion.tyson said:It's thanks to racism that we now have all become convulsed by Islamophobia.
Sean_F said:
It's thanks to the finding of "institutional racism" that we now have police turning a blind eye to child rape in Rotherham and other places.The_Apocalypse said:
As I said in a previous post, the report released after the Lawrence case concluded the police were institutionally racist.MP_SE said:
All of the police were historically racist?The_Apocalypse said:
Basically, I think we should have more BME and women in the police force. And I've said the police were historically racist in the past and that is why many communities mistrust them.TOPPING said:Off/On-topic.
Just got back, skim-reading the thread. What on earth has @The_Apocalypse done that has got everyone on his/her back??0 -
Enjoy.Cyclefree said:
I'm arguing against stereotyping. You're the one who seems to think that the group someone belongs to is somehow a relevant factor in recruitment because such a person will "look like" them or make others feel that they are "one of us".The_Apocalypse said:I do not want to institutionalise racism. That is a misrepresentation of my argument. I have not even argued for positive discrimination, or quotas.
@Sean_F No, that is the incompetent of the police that is to blame. And most likely some sexist attitudes towards the victims ass well.
On being a 'victim' of their crimes, as I said previously young black people, are as much victims of crimes as they are criminals. If we stereotype them as criminals, we need to also stereotype them as victims. In regard to the overall argument, I think @Anorak makes a very a good argument indeed.Cyclefree said:
There is far too much sentimentality in our attitude to complex problems. And this focus on the appearance of things is one example of such sentimentality. It is not what the police look like that ultimately matters. It is how they behave. And that applies to all of them, whatever their background and personal characteristics. That is why we put them in uniform - so that they stop being Mr Mohammed Smith or whatever - and become Police Officer XYZ representing the forces of law and order in which we can all, whatever our background and personal characteristics, trust.
It was the black community that, when they realised how many young black men and women were victims of crime, demanded that the police do their job. Not that they have more black officers primarily but that those police officers, whatever their colour, do their job of dealing with such crime. Maybe - just maybe - the police's concern about how to behave, given the "institutionally racist" finding, made them both ultra cautious and/or scared of getting involved. They risked being accused of racism by both the victims (by neglecting them) and by the perpetrators.
The law of unintended consequences, maybe. Better for the police to have a laser like focus on crime than a focus on fending off accusations by those with multiple agendas, many of them nothing to do with the police's job.
Anyway, thank you for the discussion.
I am off to Paris early tomorrow with one of my favourite people in the world so I need my beauty sleep. If you don't hear from me for a bit it's because I intend having some fun!
And fear not, even if you were on here battling away with your usual sensible and cogent prose, I'm not sure that those who think otherwise would be in any way swayed!0 -
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Well, SNP numbers are technically, if not in actuality, down, so I guess they could use another win to increase the numbers again.TheScreamingEagles said:
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The gun toting rednecks being interviewed on the news earlier were not expressing 'mildly centre-right views'.AndyJS said:
Trump is only popular because the left have spent 40 years closing down rational debate about immigration. People with mildly centre-right views on the subject have been labelled as racist during that time.Scott_P said:@DanHannanMEP: Darth Trump. The utter self-absorption, bordering on clinical narcissism, of @realDonaldTrump, hilariously captured. https://t.co/zWafkqUueA
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Sorry, this may have been mentioned, but is anyone else seeing a banner advert for Leave.EU about 'The Great British Fudge Off', promising commemorative fudge 'celebrating' Cameron's EU negotiations?
This far out, the campaign has already gotten weird.0 -
He'll be quoting Citizen Smith next; or has he already?FrancisUrquhart said:
Trying to out do McMao?TheScreamingEagles said:Tonight, Corbyn gave us the politics of Enver
@stephenkb: Multiple attendees confirm that Corbyn did, in fact, quote Enver Hoxha: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2015/12/jeremy-corbyn-quotes-enver-hoxha-labour-party-christmas-party …0 -
@AndyJS
'Trump is only popular because the left have spent 40 years closing down rational debate about immigration. People with mildly centre-right views on the subject have been labelled as racist during that time.'
Spot on, the Left's censorship of any discussion / debate connected with immigration / race relations has been second to none.0 -
If Trump became POTUS & Sajid Javid became PM, would that mean our PM would be barred from America?0
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No front page is weird since the Osborne strutting one.TheScreamingEagles said:
Posted without commentkle4 said:
Well, SNP numbers are technically, if not in actuality, down, so I guess they could use another win to increase the numbers again.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/craigawoodhouse/status/674354458252455936
Note: this is not an invitation to someone to post that front page.0 -
No, but I had an email from the campaign today with the same title/slogan so if nothing else it's coordinated weirdness!kle4 said:Sorry, this may have been mentioned, but is anyone else seeing a banner advert for Leave.EU about 'The Great British Fudge Off', promising commemorative fudge 'celebrating' Cameron's EU negotiations?
This far out, the campaign has already gotten weird.0 -
Is Javid a practising Muslim? Would that matter to Trump? Even he would make diplomatic exceptions surely, even if his plan was legal and workable.TheScreamingEagles said:If Trump became POTUS & Sajid Javid became PM, would that mean our PM would be barred from America?
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Anyhoo in news that will surprise football fans everywhere.
Daniel Sturridge has been ruled out for several weeks due to a hamstring injury.0 -
I believe he is as much of a practising Muslim as I am.kle4 said:
Is Javid a practising Muslim? Would that matter to Trump? Even he would make diplomatic exceptions surely, even if his plan was legal and workable.TheScreamingEagles said:If Trump became POTUS & Sajid Javid became PM, would that mean our PM would be barred from America?
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Carmichael looks pretty cool leathered up. Wasn't this pose with the bike from Terminator 2 with Arnie as the hero who defeats the shapeshifter?kle4 said:
No front page is weird since the Osborne strutting one.TheScreamingEagles said:
Posted without commentkle4 said:
Well, SNP numbers are technically, if not in actuality, down, so I guess they could use another win to increase the numbers again.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/craigawoodhouse/status/674354458252455936
Note: this is not an invitation to someone to post that front page.
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About 50 years ago.She didn't have your education or your superiority complex-in private service at the age of 14,"working for the so-called gentry" in the kitchen,another of her pearls of wisdom.Her Yorkshire pudding was magnificent too.GeoffM said:
Why did she say that?volcanopete said:
As my old ma used to say,pride comes before a fall.FrancisUrquhart said:
If we are going to do the pedantic stakes...Conservative opposition...they are in government and hold the Mayor...opposition?volcanopete said:Jim Waterson @jimwaterson 4h4 hours ago
Conservative opposition research fail shocker as it's revealed that Chicken Shop sells "free range rotisserie chicken", not fried chicken.
I'd have some respect for her if she'd quoted more accurately: "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall"0 -
Nah, this is the weirdest front page of the year.kle4 said:
No front page is weird since the Osborne strutting one.TheScreamingEagles said:
Posted without commentkle4 said:
Well, SNP numbers are technically, if not in actuality, down, so I guess they could use another win to increase the numbers again.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/craigawoodhouse/status/674354458252455936
Note: this is not an invitation to someone to post that front page.
Had PBers mesmerised
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CK3pzV7XAAEhBZJ.jpg0 -
Good point. And if he's dressed as Arnie, why is the subheading saying Hasta La Vista to him?foxinsoxuk said:
Carmichael looks pretty cool leathered up. Wasn't this pose with the bike from Terminator 2 with Arnie as the hero who defeats the shapeshifter?kle4 said:
No front page is weird since the Osborne strutting one.TheScreamingEagles said:
Posted without commentkle4 said:
Well, SNP numbers are technically, if not in actuality, down, so I guess they could use another win to increase the numbers again.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/craigawoodhouse/status/674354458252455936
Note: this is not an invitation to someone to post that front page.
Come on mocking headlines.
In all seriousness, they seem pretty confident of the upcoming announcement.0 -
For those who didn't believe that Ronald Reagan could ever be President. What will they do if Trump wins? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmWLJmbytkk …0
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I see the tradition in Greece of being crap at catching terrorists continues - they always slip away, strangely....FrancisUrquhart said:Paris attacks 'ringleader' Abdelhamid Abaaoud evaded Athens police
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Yup from Terminator 2: Judgement Dayfoxinsoxuk said:
Carmichael looks pretty cool leathered up. Wasn't this pose with the bike from Terminator 2 with Arnie as the hero who defeats the shapeshifter?kle4 said:
No front page is weird since the Osborne strutting one.TheScreamingEagles said:
Posted without commentkle4 said:
Well, SNP numbers are technically, if not in actuality, down, so I guess they could use another win to increase the numbers again.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/craigawoodhouse/status/674354458252455936
Note: this is not an invitation to someone to post that front page.0 -
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/674358087105540096
Corbyn mania - the surge, the surge, the surge. Going down faster than Man Utd.0 -
Of course not. Why do you think they were chosen to be put in the news report?SandyRentool said:
The gun toting rednecks being interviewed on the news earlier were not expressing 'mildly centre-right views'.AndyJS said:
Trump is only popular because the left have spent 40 years closing down rational debate about immigration. People with mildly centre-right views on the subject have been labelled as racist during that time.Scott_P said:@DanHannanMEP: Darth Trump. The utter self-absorption, bordering on clinical narcissism, of @realDonaldTrump, hilariously captured. https://t.co/zWafkqUueA
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I don't really see the basis for your argument in the BIB. It is the black community that would like to see more black officers - they see that as part of the police helping mend community relations, and thus 'doing their job'. I'm not buying this argument that we should not point out police racism so that the police are then 'scared' to get involved in Ethnic minority communities. If there had been no racism, there would be no issue in the first place. I don't agree it's the law of unintended consequences. Black people have always been victims of crime as much as they have been criminals. It hasn't bee created by a so-called 'law of unintended consequences', it's always been there and has just continued. I don't really see wanting to get more BME officers in the force, and interacting with local communities as 'stereotyping'. I don't just think,I've been told by many people who have experienced police racism.Cyclefree said:I'm arguing against stereotyping. You're the one who seems to think that the group someone belongs to is somehow a relevant factor in recruitment because such a person will "look like" them or make others feel that they are "one of us".
It was the black community that, when they realised how many young black men and women were victims of crime, demanded that the police do their job. Not that they have more black officers primarily but that those police officers, whatever their colour, do their job of dealing with such crime. Maybe - just maybe - the police's concern about how to behave, given the "institutionally racist" finding, made them both ultra cautious and/or scared of getting involved. They risked being accused of racism by both the victims (by neglecting them) and by the perpetrators.
The law of unintended consequences, maybe. Better for the police to have a laser like focus on crime than a focus on fending off accusations by those with multiple agendas, many of them nothing to do with the police's job.
Anyway, thank you for the discussion.
I am off to Paris early tomorrow with one of my favourite people in the world so I need my beauty sleep. If you don't hear from me for a bit it's because I intend having some fun!
Perhaps it is better for the police to focus on crime, as well as building relations with communities. After all, these accusations haven't just been made up by communities for decades on end. They've existed for a reason, and the only agenda is not being on the back of any discrimination or racism.
Thank you for the discussion, I hope you have a great trip Paris.0 -
Ladbrokes Politics @LadPolitics 10s10 seconds ago Camberwell, London
Donald Trump is 5/1 to be elected President #newsnight0 -
"I am off to Paris early tomorrow with one of my favourite people in the world ...."
Ah, ha! I knew it was to good to be true. For months Mrs Free has held us with her solid, powerfully argued and beautifully written ideas, and her cats. There had to be a flaw, a catch if you will, and now we have it. CycleFree is not only a Francophile but she likes Parisiens!
Gentlemen in England now abed will have to re-evaluate their views of Mrs. Free's posts in the morning or else hold their manhoods cheap.0 -
Yes, this was a fascinating example of how modern Britain handles such issues. At first anyone who raised the issue was claimed to be a racist - until a black academic raised it...tyson said:I don't want to get into a battle of semantics, but I can't quite remember our collective revulsion against African christian sects that murdered children, and beat women to death to cure them off devils.
Even now, the LRA is a taboo subject - pushed down out of sight. Because they can. Interesting, isn't it?0 -
No doubt if they had only shown members of the public who disagreed with Chump that would have been blatant left wing bias too.williamglenn said:
Of course not. Why do you think they were chosen to be put in the news report?SandyRentool said:
The gun toting rednecks being interviewed on the news earlier were not expressing 'mildly centre-right views'.AndyJS said:
Trump is only popular because the left have spent 40 years closing down rational debate about immigration. People with mildly centre-right views on the subject have been labelled as racist during that time.Scott_P said:@DanHannanMEP: Darth Trump. The utter self-absorption, bordering on clinical narcissism, of @realDonaldTrump, hilariously captured. https://t.co/zWafkqUueA
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There are three groups of people who - I think it is reasonable to assume - have significantly higher rates of child abuse:Sean_F said:
It's thanks to the finding of "institutional racism" that we now have police turning a blind eye to child rape in Rotherham and other places.The_Apocalypse said:
As I said in a previous post, the report released after the Lawrence case concluded the police were institutionally racist.MP_SE said:
All of the police were historically racist?The_Apocalypse said:
Basically, I think we should have more BME and women in the police force. And I've said the police were historically racist in the past and that is why many communities mistrust them.TOPPING said:Off/On-topic.
Just got back, skim-reading the thread. What on earth has @The_Apocalypse done that has got everyone on his/her back??
1. The Asian communities in certain towns
2. The Catholic priesthood
3. MPs and Peers of the Realm
It doesn't take a genius to work out what all three groups have in common:
Same sex education. They thought they were immune from prosecution. The first group knew they would be protected because focussing on them would result in cries of "racism". The second knew that parishioners would not want to bring the Church into dis-repect. And the third were able to close down investigations.
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Its never a good idea to work on the basis of being "reasonable to assume" anything.rcs1000 said:
There are three groups of people who - I think it is reasonable to assume - have significantly higher rates of child abuse:Sean_F said:
It's thanks to the finding of "institutional racism" that we now have police turning a blind eye to child rape in Rotherham and other places.The_Apocalypse said:
As I said in a previous post, the report released after the Lawrence case concluded the police were institutionally racist.MP_SE said:
All of the police were historically racist?The_Apocalypse said:
Basically, I think we should have more BME and women in the police force. And I've said the police were historically racist in the past and that is why many communities mistrust them.TOPPING said:Off/On-topic.
Just got back, skim-reading the thread. What on earth has @The_Apocalypse done that has got everyone on his/her back??
1. The Asian communities in certain towns
2. The Catholic priesthood
3. MPs and Peers of the Realm
It doesn't take a genius to work out what all three groups have in common:
Same sex education. They thought they were immune from prosecution. The first group knew they would be protected because focussing on them would result in cries of "racism". The second knew that parishioners would not want to bring the Church into dis-repect. And the third were able to close down investigations.0 -
@craigawoodhouse: Pulling no punches, @SadiqKhan accuses PM of "failing" to tackle extremism and putting Brits at risk. EXCL https://t.co/P7vTSPzFB10
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The LRA is a barbaric organisation, but has not massacred Parisiens, British tourists, Russian schoolchildren, San Bernadino health workers or Spanish commuters. Let alone Lebanese shoppers, Nigerian schoolgirls, Pakistani mosque goers etc etc.Malmesbury said:
Yes, this was a fascinating example of how modern Britain handles such issues. At first anyone who raised the issue was claimed to be a racist - until a black academic raised it...tyson said:I don't want to get into a battle of semantics, but I can't quite remember our collective revulsion against African christian sects that murdered children, and beat women to death to cure them off devils.
Even now, the LRA is a taboo subject - pushed down out of sight. Because they can. Interesting, isn't it?
To try to pretend that all religions have their terrorists and are therefore equal is absurd. African Charismatic churches have some dubious practices but are not playing in the same league as the Wahabists.0 -
A fair point.SquareRoot said:
Its never a good idea to work on the basis of being "reasonable to assume" anything.rcs1000 said:
There are three groups of people who - I think it is reasonable to assume - have significantly higher rates of child abuse:Sean_F said:
It's thanks to the finding of "institutional racism" that we now have police turning a blind eye to child rape in Rotherham and other places.The_Apocalypse said:
As I said in a previous post, the report released after the Lawrence case concluded the police were institutionally racist.MP_SE said:
All of the police were historically racist?The_Apocalypse said:
Basically, I think we should have more BME and women in the police force. And I've said the police were historically racist in the past and that is why many communities mistrust them.TOPPING said:Off/On-topic.
Just got back, skim-reading the thread. What on earth has @The_Apocalypse done that has got everyone on his/her back??
1. The Asian communities in certain towns
2. The Catholic priesthood
3. MPs and Peers of the Realm
It doesn't take a genius to work out what all three groups have in common:
Same sex education. They thought they were immune from prosecution. The first group knew they would be protected because focussing on them would result in cries of "racism". The second knew that parishioners would not want to bring the Church into dis-repect. And the third were able to close down investigations.0 -
I think this is where the Sadiq chicken shop poster is going. The meme is that Sadiq says different things to his own beliefs when he thinks that is what the audience wants. So far so normal in politics, but the issue of Islamic extremism is pretty toxic for Sadiq. If he under does it then he plays into the hands of those suspicious of his links with Belmarsh prisoners, go too harsh and he becomes a sellout to his core vote.Scott_P said:@craigawoodhouse: Pulling no punches, @SadiqKhan accuses PM of "failing" to tackle extremism and putting Brits at risk. EXCL https://t.co/P7vTSPzFB1
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Newsnight: special report on institutionalised racism in the Met Police.0
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Reagan, former Governor of California? That Reagan? The Republican Governor of notoriously Democrat California (for 8 years!)? Why would anyone suggest he would or could 'never' be President?dr_spyn said:For those who didn't believe that Ronald Reagan could ever be President. What will they do if Trump wins? www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmWLJmbytkk …
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Awkward...
Activist says Tory chair given bullying dossier in 2010
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-350470740 -
Well Sadiq should know all about that sort of thing.Scott_P said:@craigawoodhouse: Pulling no punches, @SadiqKhan accuses PM of "failing" to tackle extremism and putting Brits at risk. EXCL https://t.co/P7vTSPzFB1
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@Scott_P
'craigawoodhouse: Pulling no punches, @SadiqKhan accuses PM of "failing" to tackle extremism and putting Brits at risk. EXCL https://t.co/P7vTSPzFB1'
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Interestingly Welsh labour's worst result was in 2007 when they had just 26 seats. Plaid were the main challengers. So a projected 27 seats may not be that bad, although I would be surprised if it goes lower than 28 seats. UKIP will be the ones to watch, but as we have noted with recent local and national results they do seem to have hit a high water mark so they may not be as successful as the polling suggests. Given the experience of Scotland, it is surprising that Plaid have gone so far backwards the last few years.SandyRentool said:
All of those Kippers should make things interesting. If they push on they could even be the main opposition.TheScreamingEagles said:@gsoh31: Welsh 2016 election headlines from @roger_scully... Lab minority gov? Looks like they may lose a few seats on 2011.
http://www.itv.com/news/wales/2015-12-08/polls-shows-slip-in-labour-support/ …0 -
He is married to a christian and their children are being brought up as christian I think. I'm not sure if he is agnostic or not.TheScreamingEagles said:
I believe he is as much of a practising Muslim as I am.kle4 said:
Is Javid a practising Muslim? Would that matter to Trump? Even he would make diplomatic exceptions surely, even if his plan was legal and workable.TheScreamingEagles said:If Trump became POTUS & Sajid Javid became PM, would that mean our PM would be barred from America?
Lets face it is there any chance of Trump getting any of his wide eyed policies through both Houses of Congress and past the appeals to the Supreme Court if he were to be strangely elected as President?
The republicans meanwhile are gifting at least a total of 16 straight years if the White House to the Democrats. It almost makes sense for a sane Republican to run as an Independent if the nomination process goes loopy.0 -
No, but you can pretend they don't exist because they don't effect the average man in the street here. This prevents the awkwardness of people without a suntan judging those with a heavy one.... which is the ultimate sin, nowadays...foxinsoxuk said:
The LRA is a barbaric organisation, but has not massacred Parisiens, British tourists, Russian schoolchildren, San Bernadino health workers or Spanish commuters. Let alone Lebanese shoppers, Nigerian schoolgirls, Pakistani mosque goers etc etc.Malmesbury said:
Yes, this was a fascinating example of how modern Britain handles such issues. At first anyone who raised the issue was claimed to be a racist - until a black academic raised it...tyson said:I don't want to get into a battle of semantics, but I can't quite remember our collective revulsion against African christian sects that murdered children, and beat women to death to cure them off devils.
Even now, the LRA is a taboo subject - pushed down out of sight. Because they can. Interesting, isn't it?
To try to pretend that all religions have their terrorists and are therefore equal is absurd. African Charismatic churches have some dubious practices but are not playing in the same league as the Wahabists.0 -
I have never pretended they do not exist, and there was a very prominent social media campaign against the LRA and Kony some years ago:Malmesbury said:
No, but you can pretend they don't exist because they don't effect the average man in the street here. This prevents the awkwardness of people without a suntan judging those with a heavy one.... which is the ultimate sin, nowadays...foxinsoxuk said:
The LRA is a barbaric organisation, but has not massacred Parisiens, British tourists, Russian schoolchildren, San Bernadino health workers or Spanish commuters. Let alone Lebanese shoppers, Nigerian schoolgirls, Pakistani mosque goers etc etc.Malmesbury said:
Yes, this was a fascinating example of how modern Britain handles such issues. At first anyone who raised the issue was claimed to be a racist - until a black academic raised it...tyson said:I don't want to get into a battle of semantics, but I can't quite remember our collective revulsion against African christian sects that murdered children, and beat women to death to cure them off devils.
Even now, the LRA is a taboo subject - pushed down out of sight. Because they can. Interesting, isn't it?
To try to pretend that all religions have their terrorists and are therefore equal is absurd. African Charismatic churches have some dubious practices but are not playing in the same league as the Wahabists.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/reality-check-with-polly-curtis/2012/mar/08/kony-2012-what-s-the-story
But while the LRA are a problem in central Africa, Islamic terrorism is a problem everywhere.
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Daniel Sturridge: Liverpool striker out for weeks with new injury
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35046866
He is making Darren "sick note" Anderton look like a regular starter.0 -
Whats the point of giving it to a chair?FrancisUrquhart said:Awkward...
Activist says Tory chair given bullying dossier in 2010
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-350470740 -
And in the wonderful weird world of boxing...
Tyson Fury: World heavyweight champion stripped of IBF title
He still has the other "world" titles, but it really does make a mockery of the sport.0 -
Erm, have we decided that the BBC never did nothing or is it only Muslims and Catholics who abuse children?rcs1000 said:
There are three groups of people who - I think it is reasonable to assume - have significantly higher rates of child abuse:Sean_F said:
It's thanks to the finding of "institutional racism" that we now have police turning a blind eye to child rape in Rotherham and other places.The_Apocalypse said:
As I said in a previous post, the report released after the Lawrence case concluded the police were institutionally racist.MP_SE said:
All of the police were historically racist?The_Apocalypse said:
Basically, I think we should have more BME and women in the police force. And I've said the police were historically racist in the past and that is why many communities mistrust them.TOPPING said:Off/On-topic.
Just got back, skim-reading the thread. What on earth has @The_Apocalypse done that has got everyone on his/her back??
1. The Asian communities in certain towns
2. The Catholic priesthood
3. MPs and Peers of the Realm
It doesn't take a genius to work out what all three groups have in common:
Same sex education. They thought they were immune from prosecution. The first group knew they would be protected because focussing on them would result in cries of "racism". The second knew that parishioners would not want to bring the Church into dis-repect. And the third were able to close down investigations.0 -
It must have been a fun do...TheScreamingEagles said:Tonight, Corbyn gave us the politics of Enver
@stephenkb: Multiple attendees confirm that Corbyn did, in fact, quote Enver Hoxha: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2015/12/jeremy-corbyn-quotes-enver-hoxha-labour-party-christmas-party …
Someone should tell Corbyn not to do the jokes, McD as well. They don't even fit the bill as straight men which makes the pair a pretty useless double act.
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An interesting situation has arose.... Nominations for a local government by election closed on monday, the day of poll is 7th January. The interesting bit is, that the address on the nomination papers is the council's civic centre, and on the last day of nominations was surrounded by fifteen foot of water.
It is possible that some candidates intended to hand in their nominations on the morning.
According the the electoral commission rules, the deadlines are set in law and they cannot be changed....
I wonder how this one will play out...0 -
By the way, I'm in St Petersburg and Moscow for a few days for work, and there are gaps in the schedule so I can do a bit of sightseeing. I've been to Mosocw a couple of times and looked around a bit, but not to StP before. Any particular recommendations for either that go beyond the guidebook standards?0
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it's the way he tells emflightpath01 said:
It must have been a fun do...TheScreamingEagles said:Tonight, Corbyn gave us the politics of Enver
@stephenkb: Multiple attendees confirm that Corbyn did, in fact, quote Enver Hoxha: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2015/12/jeremy-corbyn-quotes-enver-hoxha-labour-party-christmas-party …
Someone should tell Corbyn not to do the jokes, McD as well. They don't even fit the bill as straight men which makes the pair a pretty useless double act.0 -
grammar school. the birch for you, me ladnotme said:An interesting situation has arose....
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Could the dossier be the smoking gun that topples Lord Feldman, Tory Chairman and best friend of David Cameron?FrancisUrquhart said:Awkward...
Activist says Tory chair given bullying dossier in 2010
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-350470740 -
The problem is the lack of substance. They need something a lot stronger than this.
http://40.media.tumblr.com/c3c0af2059af6a8624df26abbec2c7c5/tumblr_nysnvfvbTi1v0d91ao1_1280.png
http://40.media.tumblr.com/18d219e92eda940fdd4adca6816a174a/tumblr_nysnrvPxkn1v0d91ao1_1280.png
http://sadiqwatch.com
Holding Corbyn's Candidate to Account0 -
HurstLlama said:
"I am off to Paris early tomorrow with one of my favourite people in the world ...."
Ah, ha! I knew it was to good to be true. For months Mrs Free has held us with her solid, powerfully argued and beautifully written ideas, and her cats. There had to be a flaw, a catch if you will, and now we have it. CycleFree is not only a Francophile but she likes Parisiens!
Gentlemen in England now abed will have to re-evaluate their views of Mrs. Free's posts in the morning or else hold their manhoods cheap.
Mr Llama - I cannot let this pass! In the absence of your good self, what is a girl to do?!
Anyway, nowhere did I say I was going with a Parisian. As to who will accompany me, well, my lips are sealed. Until Paris, anyway......
PS Never mind cats - it is my gloriously sensual and scented garden which will, squirrels willing, enthral me next spring....
Bonne nuit. Dormez bien, mes amis.
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You should move to Scotland. Here the police hate everyone who isn't wearing black spandex under a hi vis jacket.The_Apocalypse said:
Again see my reply to @taffysMP_SE said:
The purpose of the police is to uphold the law and maintain order not engage in identity politics.The_Apocalypse said:
Unrepresented in terms of the Police Force. There are many out there who do not feel the Police represents them, and has their best interests at heart. And that's a big issue.taffys said:think Khan should speak up for other unrepresented communities.
What on earth is an 'unrepresented' community?? We have universal franchise in this country, and government by democracy.
Everybody is as 'represented' as any human being in any society that has ever existed.
@taffys And if the police hadn't had an extensive history of racism in recent decades towards minorities in this country, that'd be a fine expectation. But the police have, in that history of racism - epitomised by the Stephen Lawrence case - damaged that relationship. And while most of the country is white, London especially is far more diverse.
If you lived in Nigeria and there was a white community, and people began discriminating against you, I'd expect that the Police would have to do something to restore that trust back, and re-build relationships.
They don't have time to be racist for being everythingist.0 -
Maybe George Foulkes should think back to his time being hauled through the courts for assault. Or the alcoholics nose he has developed, it doesn't bode well for his life expectancy.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne ruled out another referendum on Scottish independence and called SNP MPs a “noisy and aggressive block”.
The Chancellor said there had been a “clear result” and there would not be another vote “at least for a generation”.
In comments that will anger the Scottish Nationalists he accused their new intake of “not trying to be part of the UK government, and that is a departure.”
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What's (not so) Gorgeous George Foulkes got to do with the Chancellor (who does appear to have got a bit bumptious in the last few days - rein it in Osborne, it'll end in tears)Dair said:
Maybe George Foulkes should think back to his time being hauled through the courts for assault. Or the alcoholics nose he has developed, it doesn't bode well for his life expectancy.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne ruled out another referendum on Scottish independence and called SNP MPs a “noisy and aggressive block”.
The Chancellor said there had been a “clear result” and there would not be another vote “at least for a generation”.
In comments that will anger the Scottish Nationalists he accused their new intake of “not trying to be part of the UK government, and that is a departure.”
http://bit.ly/1NEvTbb
On the timing of a second referendum - surely he's right to take SNP politicians, and the Scottish government White Paper at their word?0 -
Wales isn't a real country. So their people do not support Independence. It's absolutely pathetic but very, very Welsh.valleyboy said:
Interestingly Welsh labour's worst result was in 2007 when they had just 26 seats. Plaid were the main challengers. So a projected 27 seats may not be that bad, although I would be surprised if it goes lower than 28 seats. UKIP will be the ones to watch, but as we have noted with recent local and national results they do seem to have hit a high water mark so they may not be as successful as the polling suggests. Given the experience of Scotland, it is surprising that Plaid have gone so far backwards the last few years.SandyRentool said:
All of those Kippers should make things interesting. If they push on they could even be the main opposition.TheScreamingEagles said:@gsoh31: Welsh 2016 election headlines from @roger_scully... Lab minority gov? Looks like they may lose a few seats on 2011.
http://www.itv.com/news/wales/2015-12-08/polls-shows-slip-in-labour-support/ …0 -
So much irrelevant prejudice ignorance and high expectation not only in one post but in just two lines as well.Dair said:
Maybe George Foulkes should think back to his time being hauled through the courts for assault. Or the alcoholics nose he has developed, it doesn't bode well for his life expectancy.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne ruled out another referendum on Scottish independence and called SNP MPs a “noisy and aggressive block”.
The Chancellor said there had been a “clear result” and there would not be another vote “at least for a generation”.
In comments that will anger the Scottish Nationalists he accused their new intake of “not trying to be part of the UK government, and that is a departure.”
http://bit.ly/1NEvTbb
Congratulations.0 -
A second referendum is beyond the remit of politicians choice. Election of a party with a referendum in its manifesto is all Scotland needs.CarlottaVance said:
What's (not so) Gorgeous George Foulkes got to do with the Chancellor (who does appear to have got a bit bumptious in the last few days - rein it in Osborne, it'll end in tears)Dair said:
Maybe George Foulkes should think back to his time being hauled through the courts for assault. Or the alcoholics nose he has developed, it doesn't bode well for his life expectancy.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne ruled out another referendum on Scottish independence and called SNP MPs a “noisy and aggressive block”.
The Chancellor said there had been a “clear result” and there would not be another vote “at least for a generation”.
In comments that will anger the Scottish Nationalists he accused their new intake of “not trying to be part of the UK government, and that is a departure.”
http://bit.ly/1NEvTbb
On the timing of a second referendum - surely he's right to take SNP politicians, and the Scottish government White Paper at their word?
The Unionists can bugger off if they think they can stop it by canting an individuals words.0 -
Now why would a Nat hold a grudge against the man who coined the term 'CyberNat'? :InnocentFace:flightpath01 said:
So much irrelevant prejudice ignorance and high expectation not only in one post but in just two lines as well.Dair said:
Maybe George Foulkes should think back to his time being hauled through the courts for assault. Or the alcoholics nose he has developed, it doesn't bode well for his life expectancy.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne ruled out another referendum on Scottish independence and called SNP MPs a “noisy and aggressive block”.
The Chancellor said there had been a “clear result” and there would not be another vote “at least for a generation”.
In comments that will anger the Scottish Nationalists he accused their new intake of “not trying to be part of the UK government, and that is a departure.”
http://bit.ly/1NEvTbb
Congratulations.0 -
George Foulkes, Lord of the Realm, offcial of the Union, was guilty of assault of a police officer. Do you deny this? It is an established fact.flightpath01 said:
So much irrelevant prejudice ignorance and high expectation not only in one post but in just two lines as well.Dair said:
Maybe George Foulkes should think back to his time being hauled through the courts for assault. Or the alcoholics nose he has developed, it doesn't bode well for his life expectancy.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne ruled out another referendum on Scottish independence and called SNP MPs a “noisy and aggressive block”.
The Chancellor said there had been a “clear result” and there would not be another vote “at least for a generation”.
In comments that will anger the Scottish Nationalists he accused their new intake of “not trying to be part of the UK government, and that is a departure.”
http://bit.ly/1NEvTbb
Congratulations.
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So if we cant believe the last Scottish Government White Paper, logically we shouldn't believe the next one?Dair said:
The Unionists can bugger off if they think they can stop it by canting an individuals words.CarlottaVance said:
What's (not so) Gorgeous George Foulkes got to do with the Chancellor (who does appear to have got a bit bumptious in the last few days - rein it in Osborne, it'll end in tears)Dair said:
Maybe George Foulkes should think back to his time being hauled through the courts for assault. Or the alcoholics nose he has developed, it doesn't bode well for his life expectancy.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne ruled out another referendum on Scottish independence and called SNP MPs a “noisy and aggressive block”.
The Chancellor said there had been a “clear result” and there would not be another vote “at least for a generation”.
In comments that will anger the Scottish Nationalists he accused their new intake of “not trying to be part of the UK government, and that is a departure.”
http://bit.ly/1NEvTbb
On the timing of a second referendum - surely he's right to take SNP politicians, and the Scottish government White Paper at their word?0 -
Dair said:
George Foulkes, Lord of the Realm, offcial of the Union, was guilty of assault of a police officer. Do you deny this? It is an established fact.flightpath01 said:
So much irrelevant prejudice ignorance and high expectation not only in one post but in just two lines as well.Dair said:
Maybe George Foulkes should think back to his time being hauled through the courts for assault. Or the alcoholics nose he has developed, it doesn't bode well for his life expectancy.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne ruled out another referendum on Scottish independence and called SNP MPs a “noisy and aggressive block”.
The Chancellor said there had been a “clear result” and there would not be another vote “at least for a generation”.
In comments that will anger the Scottish Nationalists he accused their new intake of “not trying to be part of the UK government, and that is a departure.”
http://bit.ly/1NEvTbb
Congratulations.
But why bring it up on a topic about George Osborne?0 -
The man who invented the term Cybernat, to castigate anyone who disagrees with him was found Guilty of Assault of a Police Officer.CarlottaVance said:
Now why would a Nat hold a grudge against the man who coined the term 'CyberNat'? :InnocentFace:flightpath01 said:
So much irrelevant prejudice ignorance and high expectation not only in one post but in just two lines as well.Dair said:
Maybe George Foulkes should think back to his time being hauled through the courts for assault. Or the alcoholics nose he has developed, it doesn't bode well for his life expectancy.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne ruled out another referendum on Scottish independence and called SNP MPs a “noisy and aggressive block”.
The Chancellor said there had been a “clear result” and there would not be another vote “at least for a generation”.
In comments that will anger the Scottish Nationalists he accused their new intake of “not trying to be part of the UK government, and that is a departure.”
http://bit.ly/1NEvTbb
Congratulations.
I think insulting Quislings on the internet is less offensive than what the Loyalist's joy boy Foulkes was found guilty of in court.0 -
Why do you see a difference between Loyalists named after a German monarch of the UK?CarlottaVance said:Dair said:
George Foulkes, Lord of the Realm, offcial of the Union, was guilty of assault of a police officer. Do you deny this? It is an established fact.flightpath01 said:
So much irrelevant prejudice ignorance and high expectation not only in one post but in just two lines as well.Dair said:
Maybe George Foulkes should think back to his time being hauled through the courts for assault. Or the alcoholics nose he has developed, it doesn't bode well for his life expectancy.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne ruled out another referendum on Scottish independence and called SNP MPs a “noisy and aggressive block”.
The Chancellor said there had been a “clear result” and there would not be another vote “at least for a generation”.
In comments that will anger the Scottish Nationalists he accused their new intake of “not trying to be part of the UK government, and that is a departure.”
http://bit.ly/1NEvTbb
Congratulations.
But why bring it up on a topic about George Osborne?0 -
I love the CyberNat 'Hearts & Minds' campaign - may it enjoy as much success next time as it did last.....now away to bed with you or you'll have scotslass suggesting you are a Tory, are several different people, single or in need of sleep......Dair said:
I think insulting Quislings on the internetCarlottaVance said:
Now why would a Nat hold a grudge against the man who coined the term 'CyberNat'? :InnocentFace:flightpath01 said:
So much irrelevant prejudice ignorance and high expectation not only in one post but in just two lines as well.Dair said:
Maybe George Foulkes should think back to his time being hauled through the courts for assault. Or the alcoholics nose he has developed, it doesn't bode well for his life expectancy.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne ruled out another referendum on Scottish independence and called SNP MPs a “noisy and aggressive block”.
The Chancellor said there had been a “clear result” and there would not be another vote “at least for a generation”.
In comments that will anger the Scottish Nationalists he accused their new intake of “not trying to be part of the UK government, and that is a departure.”
http://bit.ly/1NEvTbb
Congratulations.0 -
The funny thing is that you've been found out, Scotslass identified you as a Tory CCHQ sock puppet and here's the thing I don't get.CarlottaVance said:
I love the CyberNat 'Hearts & Minds' campaign - may it enjoy as much success next time as it did last.....now away to bed with you or you'll have scotslass suggesting you are a Tory, are several different people, single or in need of sleep......Dair said:
I think insulting Quislings on the internetCarlottaVance said:
Now why would a Nat hold a grudge against the man who coined the term 'CyberNat'? :InnocentFace:flightpath01 said:
So much irrelevant prejudice ignorance and high expectation not only in one post but in just two lines as well.Dair said:
Maybe George Foulkes should think back to his time being hauled through the courts for assault. Or the alcoholics nose he has developed, it doesn't bode well for his life expectancy.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne ruled out another referendum on Scottish independence and called SNP MPs a “noisy and aggressive block”.
The Chancellor said there had been a “clear result” and there would not be another vote “at least for a generation”.
In comments that will anger the Scottish Nationalists he accused their new intake of “not trying to be part of the UK government, and that is a departure.”
http://bit.ly/1NEvTbb
Congratulations.
Why bother.
You're on a right wing blog, with multiple individuals posting on the "CarlottaVance" name, it's very clear that it's a Tory CCHQ account but it keeps going after it's discovered.
Isn't the whole point to try and stay undiscovered? Guess you all failed. And why bother on a blog like this. Just bizarre.0 -
How do you know either was 'named after a German monarch of the UK'?Dair said:
Why do you see a difference between Loyalists named after a German monarch of the UK?CarlottaVance said:Dair said:
George Foulkes, Lord of the Realm, offcial of the Union, was guilty of assault of a police officer. Do you deny this? It is an established fact.flightpath01 said:
So much irrelevant prejudice ignorance and high expectation not only in one post but in just two lines as well.Dair said:
Maybe George Foulkes should think back to his time being hauled through the courts for assault. Or the alcoholics nose he has developed, it doesn't bode well for his life expectancy.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne ruled out another referendum on Scottish independence and called SNP MPs a “noisy and aggressive block”.
The Chancellor said there had been a “clear result” and there would not be another vote “at least for a generation”.
In comments that will anger the Scottish Nationalists he accused their new intake of “not trying to be part of the UK government, and that is a departure.”
http://bit.ly/1NEvTbb
Congratulations.
But why bring it up on a topic about George Osborne?
In any case, Osborne was born "Gideon Oliver', which he didnt like, so at 13 he chose 'George' in honour of his war-hero grandfather...
The origin is Greek:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_(given_name)
Is it without the bounds of possibility that you may have been indulging in what Mr Foulkes has historically over-indulged in?0 -
Before you get into trouble with the mods (naughty step for accusing other posters of being multiple identities) I'm quite happy for OGH Jr to confirm that I have but one ID and post from an IP address which would be most unlikely for Tory CCHQ.......Dair said:
You're on a right wing blog, with multiple individuals posting on the "CarlottaVance" name, it's very clear that it's a Tory CCHQ account but it keeps going after it's discovered.CarlottaVance said:
I love the CyberNat 'Hearts & Minds' campaign - may it enjoy as much success next time as it did last.....now away to bed with you or you'll have scotslass suggesting you are a Tory, are several different people, single or in need of sleep......Dair said:
I think insulting Quislings on the internetCarlottaVance said:
Now why would a Nat hold a grudge against the man who coined the term 'CyberNat'? :InnocentFace:flightpath01 said:
So much irrelevant prejudice ignorance and high expectation not only in one post but in just two lines as well.Dair said:
Maybe George Foulkes should think back to his time being hauled through the courts for assault. Or the alcoholics nose he has developed, it doesn't bode well for his life expectancy.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne ruled out another referendum on Scottish independence and called SNP MPs a “noisy and aggressive block”.
The Chancellor said there had been a “clear result” and there would not be another vote “at least for a generation”.
In comments that will anger the Scottish Nationalists he accused their new intake of “not trying to be part of the UK government, and that is a departure.”
http://bit.ly/1NEvTbb
Congratulations.
I think sub-$40 oil must have led to a tin-foil shortage......0 -
Dair is just an ignorant dipstick who thinks he he being terribly clever by labelling Unionists with a word that has bigoted paramilitary connotations. I feel sorry for Scotland that it has such defenders. I am sure it does not need them. Scotland is better than either malcolmg or Dair. It's also a damn sight better than Salmond and his minimum $110 oil price.CarlottaVance said:
How do you know either was 'named after a German monarch of the UK'?Dair said:
Why do you see a difference between Loyalists named after a German monarch of the UK?CarlottaVance said:Dair said:
George Foulkes, Lord of the Realm, offcial of the Union, was guilty of assault of a police officer. Do you deny this? It is an established fact.flightpath01 said:
So much irrelevant prejudice ignorance and high expectation not only in one post but in just two lines as well.Dair said:
Maybe George Foulkes should think back to his time being hauled through the courts for assault. Or the alcoholics nose he has developed, it doesn't bode well for his life expectancy.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne ruled out another referendum on Scottish independence and called SNP MPs a “noisy and aggressive block”.
The Chancellor said there had been a “clear result” and there would not be another vote “at least for a generation”.
In comments that will anger the Scottish Nationalists he accused their new intake of “not trying to be part of the UK government, and that is a departure.”
http://bit.ly/1NEvTbb
Congratulations.
But why bring it up on a topic about George Osborne?
In any case, Osborne was born "Gideon Oliver', which he didnt like, so at 13 he chose 'George' in honour of his war-hero grandfather...
The origin is Greek:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_(given_name)
Is it without the bounds of possibility that you may have been indulging in what Mr Foulkes has historically over-indulged in?0
