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Bringing this up today, and the slightly inflammatory briefings (which I feel were ungentlemanly) trolled the Tories into changing the subject from the SNP.

Mission Accomplished

Speedy said:

I don't know if Lucas is facing problems in Brighton as some have suggested in the previous thread, however the weather forecast next week is cold weather and snow showers over much of the UK.
Next Saturday it might even snow in Brighton, not bad for May, but unfortunately very bad timing for the Green party and global warming.

It won't snow in Brighton.

Speedy said:

I don't know if Lucas is facing problems in Brighton as some have suggested in the previous thread, however the weather forecast next week is cold weather and snow showers over much of the UK.
Next Saturday it might even snow in Brighton, not bad for May, but unfortunately very bad timing for the Green party and global warming.

There's a difference between Weather and Climate. C'mon even 7 year olds know that.
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/noaa-n/climate/climate_weather.html

OblitusSumMe said:

Speedy said:

I don't know if Lucas is facing problems in Brighton as some have suggested in the previous thread, however the weather forecast next week is cold weather and snow showers over much of the UK.
Next Saturday it might even snow in Brighton, not bad for May, but unfortunately very bad timing for the Green party and global warming.

It won't snow in Brighton.

The first supercomputer GFS model results say there is a chance especially during morning hours.
Though 8 days ahead forecasts have low accuracy, let's wait another 4 days and see.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Major news


Nick Clegg on Friday dealt a blow to the chances of a Labour/Liberal Democrat coalition in a hung parliament as he ruled out any deal that relied on “life support” from the Scottish National party.

The Lib Dem leader also argued that any coalition with the party that finished second in the election — on most current projections Labour — would lack “legitimacy” with voters, who would question the government’s “birthright”.

In the clearest sign yet that he is contemplating a renewal of his 2010 coalition with the Conservatives, Mr Clegg told the Financial Times that Labour had been consumed by “frothing bile” towards his party for the past five years.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/fd3b7bec-ea97-11e4-8c7e-00144feab7de.html#axzz3YG2FI5JE

If he survives as an MP the Tories may well be doing well enough to consider it.

https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/591680570435993600

antifrank said:

If anyone has bet on Conservative minority government, now might be a good time to lay that bet off. It may still happen, but the odds of a new coalition being preferred instead if the maths permits must just have increased a fair bit.

I tipped it at 9/2 a few weeks ago.

I agree with your assessment.

On the flip side Clegg has also ruled out joining a coalition with the Tories that also involves UKIP.

Clegg is going to look like a right muppet if CON + LD + DUP < 323

Or if he ends up accepting life support from UKIP

TheScreamingEagles said:

On the flip side Clegg has also ruled out joining a coalition with the Tories that also involves UKIP.

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

Since I've not really noticed the Labour message evolving much over the past few weeks, I can only presume if the waverers are heading more to them than the Tories, that it is in response to the Tory campaign instead. That's discouraging for the Tories - they have had to and still do need to be the ones instigating new narratives and policies, but it looks like at best it is proving a challenge for them to work.

Fenster said:

Moses_ said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Major news


Nick Clegg on Friday dealt a blow to the chances of a Labour/Liberal Democrat coalition in a hung parliament as he ruled out any deal that relied on “life support” from the Scottish National party.

The Lib Dem leader also argued that any coalition with the party that finished second in the election — on most current projections Labour — would lack “legitimacy” with voters, who would question the government’s “birthright”.

In the clearest sign yet that he is contemplating a renewal of his 2010 coalition with the Conservatives, Mr Clegg told the Financial Times that Labour had been consumed by “frothing bile” towards his party for the past five years.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/fd3b7bec-ea97-11e4-8c7e-00144feab7de.html#axzz3YG2FI5JE

I wish we could have a little box on the form that said put X here if you don't want to change anything?

If I had a choice I'd vote for a continuation of the coalition. Fits what I want perfectly.

I'd vote coalition. (Although I am unsure whether a Tory majority would have dropped some of the more right-wing parts, which I disagree with, anyway.)

kle4 said:

Since I've not really noticed the Labour message evolving much over the past few weeks, I can only presume if the waverers are heading more to them than the Tories, that it is in response to the Tory campaign instead. That's discouraging for the Tories - they have had to and still do need to be the ones instigating new narratives and policies, but it looks like at best it is proving a challenge for them to work.

I think it is because the Tory campaign doesn't resemble a coherent thing.
The only thing that they have done is Ed Is Crap and SNP Is The Devil, and the voters are bored of both of those messages and seek substance.

Fenster said:

Moses_ said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Major news


Nick Clegg on Friday dealt a blow to the chances of a Labour/Liberal Democrat coalition in a hung parliament as he ruled out any deal that relied on “life support” from the Scottish National party.

The Lib Dem leader also argued that any coalition with the party that finished second in the election — on most current projections Labour — would lack “legitimacy” with voters, who would question the government’s “birthright”.

In the clearest sign yet that he is contemplating a renewal of his 2010 coalition with the Conservatives, Mr Clegg told the Financial Times that Labour had been consumed by “frothing bile” towards his party for the past five years.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/fd3b7bec-ea97-11e4-8c7e-00144feab7de.html#axzz3YG2FI5JE

I wish we could have a little box on the form that said put X here if you don't want to change anything?

If I had a choice I'd vote for a continuation of the coalition. Fits what I want perfectly.

That makes at least two of us.

Fenster said:

Moses_ said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Major news


Nick Clegg on Friday dealt a blow to the chances of a Labour/Liberal Democrat coalition in a hung parliament as he ruled out any deal that relied on “life support” from the Scottish National party.

The Lib Dem leader also argued that any coalition with the party that finished second in the election — on most current projections Labour — would lack “legitimacy” with voters, who would question the government’s “birthright”.

In the clearest sign yet that he is contemplating a renewal of his 2010 coalition with the Conservatives, Mr Clegg told the Financial Times that Labour had been consumed by “frothing bile” towards his party for the past five years.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/fd3b7bec-ea97-11e4-8c7e-00144feab7de.html#axzz3YG2FI5JE

I wish we could have a little box on the form that said put X here if you don't want to change anything?

If I had a choice I'd vote for a continuation of the coalition. Fits what I want perfectly.

The critical thing for the current coalition to continue is for Clegg to hold Hallam. If he does and more than half LD seats are saved then he'll be able to carry on. Without Clegg it will be much harder.

MikeSmithson said:

Fenster said:

Moses_ said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Major news


Nick Clegg on Friday dealt a blow to the chances of a Labour/Liberal Democrat coalition in a hung parliament as he ruled out any deal that relied on “life support” from the Scottish National party.

The Lib Dem leader also argued that any coalition with the party that finished second in the election — on most current projections Labour — would lack “legitimacy” with voters, who would question the government’s “birthright”.

In the clearest sign yet that he is contemplating a renewal of his 2010 coalition with the Conservatives, Mr Clegg told the Financial Times that Labour had been consumed by “frothing bile” towards his party for the past five years.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/fd3b7bec-ea97-11e4-8c7e-00144feab7de.html#axzz3YG2FI5JE

I wish we could have a little box on the form that said put X here if you don't want to change anything?

If I had a choice I'd vote for a continuation of the coalition. Fits what I want perfectly.

The critical thing for the current coalition to continue is for Clegg to hold Hallam. If he does and more than half LD seats are saved then he'll be able to carry on. Without Clegg it will be much harder.

I'm doing my best to ensure that happens.

Speedy said:

kle4 said:

Since I've not really noticed the Labour message evolving much over the past few weeks, I can only presume if the waverers are heading more to them than the Tories, that it is in response to the Tory campaign instead. That's discouraging for the Tories - they have had to and still do need to be the ones instigating new narratives and policies, but it looks like at best it is proving a challenge for them to work.

I think it is because the Tory campaign doesn't resemble a coherent thing.
The only thing that they have done is Ed Is Crap and SNP Is The Devil, and the voters are bored of both of those messages and seek substance.

I can imagine they are bored, but I don't know that the public do seek substance. By and large when we get it we react badly, or just get confused by all the competing stats and claims.

Fenster said:

Moses_ said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Major news


Nick Clegg on Friday dealt a blow to the chances of a Labour/Liberal Democrat coalition in a hung parliament as he ruled out any deal that relied on “life support” from the Scottish National party.

The Lib Dem leader also argued that any coalition with the party that finished second in the election — on most current projections Labour — would lack “legitimacy” with voters, who would question the government’s “birthright”.

In the clearest sign yet that he is contemplating a renewal of his 2010 coalition with the Conservatives, Mr Clegg told the Financial Times that Labour had been consumed by “frothing bile” towards his party for the past five years.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/fd3b7bec-ea97-11e4-8c7e-00144feab7de.html#axzz3YG2FI5JE

I wish we could have a little box on the form that said put X here if you don't want to change anything?

If I had a choice I'd vote for a continuation of the coalition. Fits what I want perfectly.

It doesn't fit what I want perfectly, but on balance I'd probably vote for a continuation (when casting my vote in 2010 it was my hope it would help contribute to a LD-Con coalition, so apparently I'm the only person who did vote for the coalition, inasmuch as is possible). One party having 9-10 times the MPs of the others does dilute the worth of mixing two parties together somewhat admittedly, but maybe it would at least blunt the worst edges off.

I'd have to see what actual affect the SNP would have a Lab administration before I could decide if it was ok or not. I suspect their rhetoric will not be matched by their actions, which would for once be a good thing.

TheScreamingEagles said:

MikeSmithson said:

Fenster said:

Moses_ said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Major news


Nick Clegg on Friday dealt a blow to the chances of a Labour/Liberal Democrat coalition in a hung parliament as he ruled out any deal that relied on “life support” from the Scottish National party.

The Lib Dem leader also argued that any coalition with the party that finished second in the election — on most current projections Labour — would lack “legitimacy” with voters, who would question the government’s “birthright”.

In the clearest sign yet that he is contemplating a renewal of his 2010 coalition with the Conservatives, Mr Clegg told the Financial Times that Labour had been consumed by “frothing bile” towards his party for the past five years.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/fd3b7bec-ea97-11e4-8c7e-00144feab7de.html#axzz3YG2FI5JE

I wish we could have a little box on the form that said put X here if you don't want to change anything?

If I had a choice I'd vote for a continuation of the coalition. Fits what I want perfectly.

The critical thing for the current coalition to continue is for Clegg to hold Hallam. If he does and more than half LD seats are saved then he'll be able to carry on. Without Clegg it will be much harder.

I'm doing my best to ensure that happens.

So you personally TSE have it in your power to shape the future of these islands for decades.

MikeSmithson said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MikeSmithson said:

Fenster said:

Moses_ said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Major news


Nick Clegg on Friday dealt a blow to the chances of a Labour/Liberal Democrat coalition in a hung parliament as he ruled out any deal that relied on “life support” from the Scottish National party.

The Lib Dem leader also argued that any coalition with the party that finished second in the election — on most current projections Labour — would lack “legitimacy” with voters, who would question the government’s “birthright”.

In the clearest sign yet that he is contemplating a renewal of his 2010 coalition with the Conservatives, Mr Clegg told the Financial Times that Labour had been consumed by “frothing bile” towards his party for the past five years.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/fd3b7bec-ea97-11e4-8c7e-00144feab7de.html#axzz3YG2FI5JE

I wish we could have a little box on the form that said put X here if you don't want to change anything?

If I had a choice I'd vote for a continuation of the coalition. Fits what I want perfectly.

The critical thing for the current coalition to continue is for Clegg to hold Hallam. If he does and more than half LD seats are saved then he'll be able to carry on. Without Clegg it will be much harder.

I'm doing my best to ensure that happens.

So you personally TSE have it in your power to shape the future of these islands for decades.

As Uncle Ben (Parker) said, with great power comes great responsibility.

53 minutes to the next YouGov and no Tweets from Newton-Dunn. What's it going to be?

kle4 said:

Looking at a map of the 2010 results, the thought occurs that one could make a bet on whether there will be any LD seats that border another LD seat. 2 in Wales at present, a bunch in Scotland and the SW, and the SW London seats, otherwise they are scattered all over the place, a few in the shires and some on the edges or, rare, inner cities.

It seems unlikely they'll retain enough seats in Scotland to border each other, I don't know how likely their Welsh seats are, and we've had at least one poll predicting a bad time in the SW, so while with 20ish seats I imagine a couple at least will border each other, can it be assumed?

Twickenham, where my vote has gone, and Kingston border each other.

tyson said:

kle4 said:

Since I've not really noticed the Labour message evolving much over the past few weeks, I can only presume if the waverers are heading more to them than the Tories, that it is in response to the Tory campaign instead. That's discouraging for the Tories - they have had to and still do need to be the ones instigating new narratives and policies, but it looks like at best it is proving a challenge for them to work.

I cannot for the life of me understand why the Tories didn't use the good news economic stories to start bringing in positive policies six months ago- more money for the NHS, additional childcare, taking more out of tax- using the budget as the vehicle for driving these forward. I find it baffling that they had these in their back pocket if the poll numbers didn't shift and have only used it in the latter stages of an election campaign. If you want to hold onto power, you need to compromise.
The best incumbency campaign is steady as she goes building a positive vision for the future, not flap around.

Momentum. The Tories needed something to counter Labour attack lines closer to the election. Have nothing left in the tank and the result is very damaging indeed, because you go into election day with an opposition narrative.

Until the last two months, the Tories have not had as much space over living standards as they had hoped - go in too positive and you look out of touch (that's one Labour line which has not hit home as it has happened, but not missed by much).

Ed looks a little sunken eyed in the picture, but to tell the truth, he's been looking pretty decent during the campaign

MikeSmithson said:

kle4 said:

Looking at a map of the 2010 results, the thought occurs that one could make a bet on whether there will be any LD seats that border another LD seat. 2 in Wales at present, a bunch in Scotland and the SW, and the SW London seats, otherwise they are scattered all over the place, a few in the shires and some on the edges or, rare, inner cities.

It seems unlikely they'll retain enough seats in Scotland to border each other, I don't know how likely their Welsh seats are, and we've had at least one poll predicting a bad time in the SW, so while with 20ish seats I imagine a couple at least will border each other, can it be assumed?

Twickenham, where my vote has gone, and Kingston border each other.

Ah yes. What is it about that part of London that makes it so LD friendly? Comparatively.

MikeSmithson said:

53 minutes to the next YouGov and no Tweets from Newton-Dunn. What's it going to be?

It will be the same as at least one other Yougov poll in April.

MikeSmithson said:

53 minutes to the next YouGov and no Tweets from Newton-Dunn. What's it going to be?

Labour 2% ahead?

TheScreamingEagles said:

For those of us with bets on Scottish Pandas vs Scot Tory MPs, this story maybe of interest

Pandas break mating record with 40-minute sex marathon

http://tinyurl.com/TheRandyPandyBuggers

They have obviously put all their bamboo shoot money on BetFred.

I'm guessing Lab 3 ahead. MOE changes, but there's been some creeping up of the Lab lead with those pollsters showing regular leads for them, which includes YG.

Con minority 5.8 on Betfair

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/591667037212155905/photo/1

Ooh

Oeuf dans moi visage if Ukip are struggling in the latter

Doubt they'll drift to 16/1 mind

Lord Ashcroft (@LordAshcroft)
24/04/2015 21:49
My latest constituency polls ( including Rochester and Thurrock) will be released at 9am Saturday with commentary at @ConHome

What's that smell? Something stinks, but can't work out what it is...

https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/591705846435950592

saddened said:

Fenster said:

@ Mike Smithson & Kle4

I think Clegg will hold on.

Re the 2010 coalition, I don't think anybody really saw it coming, but I think history will judge it a) as a pretty amazing political event, and b) as a success.

I still think that Cameron, Osborne, IDS, Letwin, Clegg, Cable, Huhne, Laws and Alexander deserve an enormous amount of credit for what they've pulled off. They've all suffered huge political fallout - particularly the Lib Dems with the votes shed, and Cameron too, with his right-wing - but they have led a mature, stable government during very difficult times and have broadly succeeded on their big-issue policies/reforms.

I also think they had broadly reflected what the electorate wants; sound finances, stability, liberal tolerance on social issues, less tribalism and more political compromise.

The coalition has angered the tribal voters on the right and on the left. But I suspect in the pursuit of decent governance, that's no bad thing.

History will judge them well.

Apart from Cable and Hunhe, nothing to argue with there. Cable has been a non entity, Huhne, less said the better.

Agree with most of that except Cable who has spent his time in government excercisung his vanity. Despicable individuable.

chestnut said:

Ashcroft produced a poll on Monday with the Tories 4 ahead, as did Survation and Opinium.

If the waverers are heading to labour, they've got a funny way of showing it.

chestnut said:

Ashcroft produced a poll on Monday with the Tories 4 ahead, as did Survation and Opinium.

If the waverers are heading to labour, they've got a funny way of showing it.

I've just returned from driving to South Devon and back in the last 24 hours. Not many but the only poster-boards were blue. Not a red, not a yellow. Meaningless I know.
Even the mororway signs were blue - which makes a change for all the subliminal Keep Left signs we normally see.

TheScreamingEagles said:

For those of us with bets on Scottish Pandas vs Scot Tory MPs, this story maybe of interest

Pandas break mating record with 40-minute sex marathon

http://tinyurl.com/TheRandyPandyBuggers

You are not the only one with those interests.
From 1:47 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBO9Y0SyDqk

Is anyone else watching the cricket? Two teams with pedestrian bowlers on slow wickets. It's still worth watching mind- UKIP cricket, a throwback to a different era when no team ever won a match.
I've tried to explain test cricket to Italians. It baffles them. 5 days of 6-7 hours play a day, and often ends up as a draw They don't get the point.
There is a review....

Fenster said:

@ Mike Smithson & Kle4

I think Clegg will hold on.

Re the 2010 coalition, I don't think anybody really saw it coming, but I think history will judge it a) as a pretty amazing political event, and b) as a success.

I still think that Cameron, Osborne, IDS, Letwin, Clegg, Cable, Huhne, Laws and Alexander deserve an enormous amount of credit for what they've pulled off. They've all suffered huge political fallout - particularly the Lib Dems with the votes shed, and Cameron too, with his right-wing - but they have led a mature, stable government during very difficult times and have broadly succeeded on their big-issue policies/reforms.

I also think they had broadly reflected what the electorate wants; sound finances, stability, liberal tolerance on social issues, less tribalism and more political compromise.

The coalition has angered the tribal voters on the right and on the left. But I suspect in the pursuit of decent governance, that's no bad thing.

History will judge them well.

Only if history forgets this

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/03/victims-britains-harsh-welfare-sanctions

And this

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jan/10/disabled-tenants-bedroom-tax-challenge-supreme-court

And this

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/oct/14/uk-inequality-wealth-credit-suisse

And the minor antics and lies

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/grant-shapps-more-half-voters-5350313

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH2EmVGowCk

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2012/sep/20/nick-clegg-apology-tuition-fees-video

OllyT said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Major news


Nick Clegg on Friday dealt a blow to the chances of a Labour/Liberal Democrat coalition in a hung parliament as he ruled out any deal that relied on “life support” from the Scottish National party.

The Lib Dem leader also argued that any coalition with the party that finished second in the election — on most current projections Labour — would lack “legitimacy” with voters, who would question the government’s “birthright”.

In the clearest sign yet that he is contemplating a renewal of his 2010 coalition with the Conservatives, Mr Clegg told the Financial Times that Labour had been consumed by “frothing bile” towards his party for the past five years.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/fd3b7bec-ea97-11e4-8c7e-00144feab7de.html#axzz3YG2FI5JE

Might be Clegg's view but he will have a hell of a battle getting the rest of the party to agree to another 5 years with the Tories

You are right. This is not like last time when the arithmetic drove the answer, and LD MPs and members were quite easily persuaded to support the coalition (me included).

This time it is different. The arithmetic will favour a Lab/LD deal, and LD MPs and activists are scarred by the last five years. Clegg, Alexander and Laws have their own agenda. They'll have great difficulty is selling it to the rest of the party.

Alexander will be gone and I suspect there will be an immediate campaign by Local Parties and many MPs to replace Clegg.

Freggles said:

Fenster said:

@ Mike Smithson & Kle4

I think Clegg will hold on.

Re the 2010 coalitio

Only if history forgets this

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/03/victims-britains-harsh-welfare-sanctions

And this

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jan/10/disabled-tenants-bedroom-tax-challenge-supreme-court

And this

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/oct/14/uk-inequality-wealth-credit-suisse

And the minor antics and lies

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/grant-shapps-more-half-voters-5350313

htp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH2EmVGowCk

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2012/sep/20/nick-clegg-apology-tuition-fees-video

Minor antics and lies are part and parcel of all government. Welfare changes are popular with many, even if there have been missteps.

Nevertheless, many of the key 'achievements' of the coalition have indeed been controversial - many people like them, many hate them with a passion, which is incidentally one reason the Tories have trouble talking about things other than the economy, because changes in things like Welfare and Education anger large groups even if they also have support - but in terms of proving coalition government can work stably and effectively, when many said it would not and hoped it would not, and fighting against often unhelpful interventions from within their own sides, the leaderships have achieved something noteworthy even if one does not like what they did with that achievement.

One would hope the historical analysis would look at more than just the policy detail, important though that is. Sometimes there are larger impacts and more subtle successes than is apparent at the time, and which may not even have been intended by those making the decisions.

EPG said:

AndyJS said:

Tykejohnno said:

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/591667037212155905/photo/1

Con + LD + UKIP + DUP = 319, just 4 short of the target. 3 short if the DUP win back Belfast East.

Lab + SNP + DUP = 324. More likely than blue rainbow, I think.

The DUP won't have anything to do with an SNP coalition or agreement.

saddened said:

Fenster said:

@ Mike Smithson & Kle4

I think Clegg will hold on.

Re the 2010 coalition, I don't think anybody really saw it coming, but I think history will judge it a) as a pretty amazing political event, and b) as a success.

I still think that Cameron, Osborne, IDS, Letwin, Clegg, Cable, Huhne, Laws and Alexander deserve an enormous amount of credit for what they've pulled off. They've all suffered huge political fallout - particularly the Lib Dems with the votes shed, and Cameron too, with his right-wing - but they have led a mature, stable government during very difficult times and have broadly succeeded on their big-issue policies/reforms.

I also think they had broadly reflected what the electorate wants; sound finances, stability, liberal tolerance on social issues, less tribalism and more political compromise.

The coalition has angered the tribal voters on the right and on the left. But I suspect in the pursuit of decent governance, that's no bad thing.

History will judge them well.

Apart from Cable and Hunhe, nothing to argue with there. Cable has been a non entity, Huhne, less said the better.

I was referring to their efforts in putting the coalition together - took some bravery and a hell of a leap of faith at the beginning.

On Cable, I guess he has worked hard but has found it difficult putting his left-of-centre soul into a tory-led govt. It's been disappointing watching his Oakeshott buddy being so off-message (you sense Cable is speaking with forked tongue, to his lefty supporters, through Oakeshott). But aside from that, they've all worked commendably well together.

Test cricket is the greatest sport in the world.

kle4 said:

Looking at a map of the 2010 results, the thought occurs that one could make a bet on whether there will be any LD seats that border another LD seat. 2 in Wales at present, a bunch in Scotland and the SW, and the SW London seats, otherwise they are scattered all over the place, a few in the shires and some on the edges or, rare, inner cities.

It seems unlikely they'll retain enough seats in Scotland to border each other, I don't know how likely their Welsh seats are, and we've had at least one poll predicting a bad time in the SW, so while with 20ish seats I imagine a couple at least will border each other, can it be assumed?

OTher chances are Mid Wales, Lewes/Eastbourne, doing the double in the London Borough of Sutton, and MAYBE Cheadle/Hazel Grove.

Is it just me or has the election gotten boring in the last 7 days or so?
Of course there is still the mathematical uncertainty, but the manifestos were a dud. Where is our bigotgate or Cleggmania?

Freggles said:

Is it just me or has the election gotten boring in the last 7 days or so?
Of course there is still the mathematical uncertainty, but the manifestos were a dud. Where is our bigotgate or Cleggmania?

The "short" campaign should be 3 weeks, not 5.

AndyJS said:

tyson said:

Is anyone else watching the cricket? Two teams with pedestrian bowlers on slow wickets. It's still worth watching mind- UKIP cricket, a throwback to a different era when no team ever won a match.
I've tried to explain test cricket to Italians. It baffles them. 5 days of 6-7 hours play a day, and often ends up as a draw They don't get the point.
There is a review....

I'm listening to the cricket. The whole point of cricket is it's like real life. You have boring passages of play and exciting ones. You need the boring bits to appreciate the exciting bits. Maybe the Italians would understand that way of explaining it.

AndyJS said:

tyson said:

Is anyone else watching the cricket? Two teams with pedestrian bowlers on slow wickets. It's still worth watching mind- UKIP cricket, a throwback to a different era when no team ever won a match.
I've tried to explain test cricket to Italians. It baffles them. 5 days of 6-7 hours play a day, and often ends up as a draw They don't get the point.
There is a review....

I'm listening to the cricket. The whole point of cricket is it's like real life. You have boring passages of play and exciting ones. You need the boring bits to appreciate the exciting bits. Maybe the Italians would understand that way of explaining it.

Yaaaawwwwwnnnnnnn

EPG said:

AndyJS said:

Tykejohnno said:

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/591667037212155905/photo/1

Con + LD + UKIP + DUP = 319, just 4 short of the target. 3 short if the DUP win back Belfast East.

Lab + SNP + DUP = 324. More likely than blue rainbow, I think.

Or Lab + SNP + Green + PC + SDLP + Respect = 324 (plus LDs)

SeanT said:

Freggles said:

Is it just me or has the election gotten boring in the last 7 days or so?
Of course there is still the mathematical uncertainty, but the manifestos were a dud. Where is our bigotgate or Cleggmania?

It's just you. This is the most intriguing election, for so many reasons, in many decades. Anyone who claims otherwise is a twit, with zero hindsight.

.. and foresight.