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The politician allowing the unjust crucifixion of the Son of God was never going to get a particularly good press by history, particularly one the Church wrote. Pilate accepting Christ’s innocence only causes his reputation to fall further:
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Peter Mannion 'MP' @PeterMannionMP 7m
@MSmithsonPB May would want him crucified, but the judges would want to let him go surely?
http://austenasia.webs.com/emperorsandimperialfamily.htm
Had he been:
New Labour : Rendered him unto Rome
'One Nation" (sic) Labour: Complained about what Herod had not done, but not actually proposed anything himself.
Conservative : Locked him up, got in a fight with the judiciary, while ignoring a valid extradition request from Persia.
Lib Dem: Protested that the letter had never arrived, but were now "taking it very seriously and looking into it urgently."
SNP: Crucified him, then claimed it was "A Victory for Pilate!"
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Rahman_(convert)#section_4
That case was managed with a classic fudge, with a mis-trial declared and then the defendant quietly slipped out of the country, a better solution than the Pilate one, but one that leaves the question unresolved. The Barnabas fund gives a good summary of the situation today:
http://barnabasfund.org/UK/Our-work/Our-current-projects/BF-Project-Countries/
As Ecclesiastes states, there is nothing new under the sun, religious freedom is still not a right for many.
O/T:
R4 was discussing IDS's welfare reforms yesterday. It seems the entire State Welfare cost is £207 billion pa (2012/3).
So...
If we stopped every single welfare payment - pensions, CB, family credit etc - we'd just about be where the State's income/expenditure should be - around £80 billion pa surplus.
And on that truly scary thought (ie returning pension age to its original 1906 age of 80 and ending CB entirely would not be nearly enough to 'balance the books') I'm off to walk the hills.
SYDNEY — An eccentric Australian mining magnate who is building a replica of the ill-fated Titanic has unveiled his latest scheme -- a park of giant robotic dinosaurs.
Clive Palmer, who last month in New York launched an ambitious plan to build and sail the "Titanic II", said he had ordered more than 100 life-size dinosaur robots from China to populate his north Australian resort.
"We'll have the world's biggest dinosaur exhibit, with 165 animatronic dinosaurs," Palmer said.
He already has two of the towering creatures -- named Jeff and Bones -- on display at his Palmer Coolum Resort on the Sunshine coast north of Brisbane and boasted that the public "haven't seen anything yet."
The robots, some of which measure up to 7 metres tall and weigh in excess of 1.2 tonnes, will move their tails and chests and blink their eyes. They are expected to arrive by the end of April.
A larger-than-life character who has made a fortune in mining, Palmer said recently that he was funding the Titanic II because "I want to spend the money I've got before I die".
I'm torn - the only bits of the the DT I like are the blogs and the odd Weird news story. It's not the whole £1.99 that bothers me at all, but it's made me wonder about the quality of the product. I stopped bothering with The Times after it made life too much like hard work to pay them for subscribing... how bizarre is that?
DT comments are also largely unreadable so there's very little *actual news* in most editions.
What are other PBers thoughts? I'm going to see how I get on with just the Mail, Guardian and Indy - I doubt I'll last very long before returning to the Times TBH. Of all of them - they've the best all round product even if their billing sucks [and I don't have an iPad so haven't had the apps probs reported on here].
Usually the 'Pontius Pilate wasn't that bad' is done by spoofers, bored public relations halfwits who think it's a 'challenge, 'or those who think that controversy is by and itself enough reason to rail against something.
Since it isn't fact there's a rather obvious reason the story is as it is with Pilate shown as he is.
It's like arguing that the recipients of loaves and fishes were 'welfare scroungers' or that crucifixion is 'tough on christianity, tough on the causes of christianity.'
It was done superbly by the Python team and it was done as comedy for a reason as well.
JT Macnamara's Cheltenham fall has left him paralysed. He has a broken neck but said to be in 'good spirits'. Let's hope he manages to make some progress back - the Times columnist who had a similar injury is mobile again if only tentatively after a long recuperation.
No I haven't - do you know which file it'd be? I've thousands of cookies.
OT John Major and Eric Idle apparently both just turned 70 - here's a letter from Eric to John...
https://twitter.com/LettersOfNote/status/317601025299185664/photo/1
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1) It was all a Jewish plot led by Caiphas, the "Sanhedrin trial" probably violated Jesus' human rights, think of the CiF articles.
2) Peter would have had his reputation torn to shreds over his thrice betrayal of Jesus. Making him Head of the Catholic Church would be like making Kim
Philby head of The Secret Intelligence Service
But you only have to look at the way Bill Clinton acted over Ricky Ray Rector to know most politicians would have acted the same way as Pontius Pilate.
So Don't forget to watch Doctor Who this evening.
Printer refuses to publish gay magazine
Editor of Northern Irish publication MyGayZine seeks legal advice over rejection said to have been on grounds of faith
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/29/printer-refuses-publish-gay-magazine?mobile-redirect=false
Pretentious, more interested in image than substance and ultimately willing to look the other way while an atrocity was committed.
The parallels are obvious.
Very interesting take on Pilate, Mr. Herdson.
Mr. Flashman, technically it was charity, I think. Did Jesus receive a fee?
He did, however, break Sabbath trading laws set down by Mosaic Law, for which the Pharisees tried to get him to confess to criminal activity.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGlvoplCIAA6v6m.jpg:large
"the importance of spelling"
Is that akin to the Importance of Being Ernest? :^O
"Carlotta, The SNP would have done the right thing and set him free."
I thought Pontius Pilate was SNP. He was allegedly born in Fortingall in Glen Lyon where there is still a tree that was alive when he was.
The impact of speeches never given...
"What if John F Kennedy had returned home safely from Dallas return from Dallas on 22 November, 1963? Would Congress have passed the Civil Rights Bill? Would the South have defected to the Republican Party? Would millions have died in the conflict in Vietnam?
History is not just a litany of all the things that happen, it is about what did not happen, about the road not taken.
And sadly that history, the history of things that did not happen, is unknowable. Which is what makes it tantalising and fascinating.
But there is a way to catch a glimpse of that history, to see, or maybe just to feel what it might have been like. And it lies in the archives. In the notes for speeches written but never given..."
Great film, watched it many many times.
Is a bit graphic in places.
I tend to be smiling like a Cheshire Cat or laughing like a drain which doesn't tend to reflect a flattering image either unless one is starring in a Carry On movie or the inmate of a lunatic asylum.
Being caught with a double chin or with one's eyes closed remains my greatest fear ;^ )
Surely the SNP is like the Judean People's Front.
*Innocent face*
I nearly converted to Christianity watching it.
The man in the picture above who played Pilate, is called Hristo, which is Bulgarian for Christ.
"Touch my noodly appendgage"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-21978572
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/odd/news/a469312/bacon-flavoured-condoms-on-sale-pictures.html
*Innocent face*
Now there is one map that I am glad we are not on. I wonder how the Chinese leadership are feeling about the support they gave that lunatic family now. I also wonder if they have enough influence to engineer a coup.
Could get very messy.
I suspect any new war in the Korean peninsular is going to be over within hours. You really cannot mess about with a country that has nuclear weapons. Any US response will be savage and overwhelming.
And the US Pacific fleet will be on maximum alert and in the theatre. Not a good time for China to be silly. The Japanese are gearing up their fleet in a big way too.
I don't think that there is a lot of doubt that this part of the world is going to see the next major war. It is really a matter of when.
The North Koreans are basically SPECTRE, willing to use whatever criminal means to extort from whoever. They have fingers in many pies - drugs, counterfeiting, even the ginseng trade. The real mystery is why China allows this sore to fester.
http://www.pilatus.ch/en/the-mountain/legends-myths/legend-of-pilatus/
If only the North Koreans were like the Mysterons, then David Miliband and international rescue could sort them out
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ed-miliband-politics-is-far-too-important-to-be-left-to-the-politicians-8554822.html
2000 year-old politics is fascinating. It's just a shame that there aren't many betting opportunities. Don't worry: normal 21st century coverage will be resumed next week.
Spectrum it is.
I think that is a sign I should go to bed.
http://media.economist.com/sites/default/files/cf_images/20060708/CAS944.gif
North Korean forces are deeply embedded in bunkers so not so susceptible to counter battery fire as in a mobile war. It would either have to be a very aggressive response by South Korea, or a very vigorous pre-emptive strike. It would have to be very overwhelming to be successful.
I suspect though that most of the North Korean army would be poorly led and poorly equipped, collapsing as quickly as the Iraqi army did in 1991 and 2003. The aftermath might be easier to manage though, as the South would be in charge, ratherthan foreign powers.
Maybe there's a market for a site across papers where you can subscribe to read articles/reports etc in specific categories - the more categories you want to access the more you pay. Then your sub is split between the host site and newspapers etc depending on which pages you click on (a system I assume would be easy to set up). Or whatever.
Otherwise I tend to buy one or two papers at the weekend, again time permitting, when I'm out on the wander - I'll sit with a coffee somewhere and read them back to back. I prefer that to looking at screens. It just feels more focused/relaxing.
Interesting article btw.
OT... was anyone else seeing a picture of a boxer dog in a shower via the newspaper widget last night, whatever front page you clicked on? I had a quick look when I got home in the early hours. Okay, I was a bit merry - but I'm a tad concerned if I was drunkenly hallucinating a boxer dog in a shower...
AND what you would do differently.
And more to the point, what is the alternative? A blank sheet of paper, and ubiquitous opposition to even the smallest economies?
The idea is to reform the system so that people are always better off in work.
That is a moral imperative: it does no one any good to stay on benefits for extended periods. So many of the moves this government has been trying: apprenticeships, universal credit, etc are trying to solve this problem.
Of course it would have been far, far easier to do during a period of, say, 10 years of economic boom. But someone shirked that responsibility and so it falls to the Tories to try and make the system work in a time when there isn't much money to go around.
Mr Stodge of this Parish is a prolific contributor over there.
Have others encountered similar? What strength of password was indicated when you set it up?
Not a technical sort of person, but are you logging in from the same device each time? Are you using a PC or something else? [I'm using the same desktop as usual].
It was Good Friday. If its just a normal day then why is it a Bank Holiday? Have you replied to David Herdson, mocking him for the irrelevance of the point of his thread?.
As least, as they say, it is a strong password. Trouble is, it is insecure. Anyway, I should be able to post now.
The only mention of Pilate other than in the bible is, IIRC, a stone tablet or base of a plinth with his name engraved on, in Ceasaria, Israel.
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/universal-credit-wr2011-ia.pdf
Eight characters, a mixture of upper and lower case, and some digits should be sufficient.
Thanks.