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Naturally. PB Golden Rule.compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
TSE beat me to it.. but tick tock is on the money. question is, can it be sustained....MP_SE said:
Lol.TheScreamingEagles said:As Nick Palmer would say, tick tock
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/579343054504595457
Although the Tories have yet to break above 36 in any of the polls.0 -
labour=slip sliding awayTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
36% would actually be a pretty amusing final Tory score - it'd be fun to see where the end up, seats wise, with the same percentage as last time.0
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For any of our American friends looking at today's scores and wondering, the Six Nations is a rugby tournament, not basketball......0
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You're quite wrong. It doesn't get ignored, it just gets explained away.compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
The only place labour are going back to is 1983 EdM=Michael Footcompouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Exactamundo!RobD said:
Naturally. PB Golden Rule.compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Ha ha Ha , you really are a comedianFlightpath said:SMukesh said:
And that`s why he needs another idiot to blunder in.GeoffM said:
Well he's definitely medalling in this particular exchange between the two of you.SMukesh said:
Seems like you know there is everything to know about politics.MaxPB said:
Again, the "challengers" debate includes the opposition and only the opposition. Also, since Dave, Nige and Nick get less screen time than Ed (one less appearance for Dave and Nige, two less for Nick) they will be able to make that up elsewhere for political balance reasons.SMukesh said:
I know enough to know it`s not a good idea to have 6 party leaders calling you chicken before the election.MaxPB said:
Yes, for this exact reason. You literally don't understand how politics works.SMukesh said:It is really funny all these Tories predicting ED IS going to be hammered when it`s their leader who is the chicken.
Cameron ran scared of the debates for a reason,ladies!
Honestly, you just don't get this politics malarkey. Dave has won. Ed has lost. He is going into a room with 4 anti-establishment parties as the one defending the establishment. Dave and Nick get to sit at home laughing while they tuck into a nice meal and chortle into their beers.
As far as when the 5-way is taking place then if I were Cameron I would be out somewhere meeting the people and making a speech and looking prime ministerial and in control, not squabbling with a bunch of political midgets for the extremist vote.MaxPB said:
One of them thinks that Ed made such a massive thing over the debates that Ed couldn't back down from any of them without losing face.FrankBooth said:
But surely Miliband wouldn't agree to it unless he felt there was some advantage to him in doing it?MaxPB said:Labour friends of mine pretty irate over the debates. Mostly with Labour campaign for putting Ed into the den of ****s with the challengers.
I'm pleasantly surprised by the latest proposals. A range of programmes and formats over a wide enough period so as not to take over the entire campaign.0 -
Thats a massive switch round from last week and it must have come after both the budget and the analysis of it.TheScreamingEagles said:As Nick Palmer would say, tick tock
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/579343054504595457
Are you pleased to see Mr Eagles that England's Pacific Islanders are coming out better than France's Pacific Islanders?0 -
England fans, prepare to dream....0
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I'm just happy we're winning.Flightpath said:
Thats a massive switch round from last week and it must have come after both the budget and the analysis of it.TheScreamingEagles said:As Nick Palmer would say, tick tock
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/579343054504595457
Are you pleased to see Mr Eagles that England's Pacific Islanders are coming out better than France's Pacific Islanders?
This is the most stirring England v France match since the 2007 Semi0 -
No I was specifically using the term Apartheid as the mechanism the state uses to promote sectarianism - i.e. the school system.GeoffM said:
I saw the comment and the question too. My interpretation was sectarianism and I thought the reference germinated from an earlier thread diversion into football. Which would be one of your "associated effects", I guess?Alistair said:FTP Thread
I don't know for certain but I assume when @Dair was talking about apartheid in Scotland he was talking about Religious Schooling and its associated effects.0 -
ISAM
"Also managed to get banned as two people in a week and sneak back under the radar"
That's impressive. Certainly one to watch. Do we have a name?0 -
David Cameron = Political genius!kjohnw said:
The only place labour are going back to is 1983 EdM=Michael Footcompouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
One side might start tackling in a bit.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm just happy we're winning.Flightpath said:
Thats a massive switch round from last week and it must have come after both the budget and the analysis of it.TheScreamingEagles said:As Nick Palmer would say, tick tock
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/579343054504595457
Are you pleased to see Mr Eagles that England's Pacific Islanders are coming out better than France's Pacific Islanders?
This is the most stirring England v France match since the 2007 Semi0 -
Apparently I look at a different PB, as what I see is PB Tories get excited by polls showing the Tories doing well, and not liking the ones which do not, and PB non-Tories mocking that no-one mentions the latter, even when they do (just not as much as the ones they like obviously). The myth of the 'Tories polling poorly so not mentioned' is just that, a myth.compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
I only see you with a custard pie in the face.malcolmg said:
Ha ha Ha , you really are a comedianFlightpath said:SMukesh said:
And that`s why he needs another idiot to blunder in.GeoffM said:
Well he's definitely medalling in this particular exchange between the two of you.SMukesh said:
Seems like you know there is everything to know about politics.MaxPB said:
....SMukesh said:
I know enough to know it`s not a good idea to have 6 party leaders calling you chicken before the election.MaxPB said:
Yes, for this exact reason. You literally don't understand how politics works.SMukesh said:It is really funny all these Tories predicting ED IS going to be hammered when it`s their leader who is the chicken.
Cameron ran scared of the debates for a reason,ladies!
As far as when the 5-way is taking place then if I were Cameron I would be out somewhere meeting the people and making a speech and looking prime ministerial and in control, not squabbling with a bunch of political midgets for the extremist vote.MaxPB said:
One of them thinks that Ed made such a massive thing over the debates that Ed couldn't back down from any of them without losing face.FrankBooth said:
But surely Miliband wouldn't agree to it unless he felt there was some advantage to him in doing it?MaxPB said:Labour friends of mine pretty irate over the debates. Mostly with Labour campaign for putting Ed into the den of ****s with the challengers.
I'm pleasantly surprised by the latest proposals. A range of programmes and formats over a wide enough period so as not to take over the entire campaign.
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I also enjoy the knee jerk reaction of single poll results. It is one of the most entertaining parts of being on here. We will see how many mentions the Yougov gets later.kle4 said:
Apparently I look at a different PB, as what I see is PB Tories get excited by polls showing the Tories doing well, and not liking the ones which do not, and PB non-Tories mocking that no-one mentions the latter, even when they do (just not as much as the ones they like obviously). The myth of the 'Tories polling poorly so not mentioned' is just that, a myth.compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
There is probably a limit to how well someone can be uniquely identified, for instance using a VPN or Tor to connect through a different IP address. Not sure what isam is trying to demonstrate with this, that the mods don't spend every waking hour verifying a new user isn't the same as an old, banned user.Roger said:ISAM
"Also managed to get banned as two people in a week and sneak back under the radar"
That's impressive. Certainly one to watch. Do we have a name?0 -
We will see if the YouGov is a gold standard poll or not.compouter2 said:
I also enjoy the knee jerk reaction of single poll results. It is one of the most entertaining parts of being on here. We will see how many mentions the Yougov gets later.kle4 said:
Apparently I look at a different PB, as what I see is PB Tories get excited by polls showing the Tories doing well, and not liking the ones which do not, and PB non-Tories mocking that no-one mentions the latter, even when they do (just not as much as the ones they like obviously). The myth of the 'Tories polling poorly so not mentioned' is just that, a myth.compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Prescient.Flightpath said:
One side might start tackling in a bit.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm just happy we're winning.Flightpath said:
Thats a massive switch round from last week and it must have come after both the budget and the analysis of it.TheScreamingEagles said:As Nick Palmer would say, tick tock
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/579343054504595457
Are you pleased to see Mr Eagles that England's Pacific Islanders are coming out better than France's Pacific Islanders?
This is the most stirring England v France match since the 2007 Semi
Or perhaps not the type of tackle that you wanted.0 -
It looks like the Budget was well -received.0
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James Haskell deserves to be slapped around the face with a breeze block.0
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In the bin tonight.RobD said:
We will see if the YouGov is a gold standard poll or not.compouter2 said:
I also enjoy the knee jerk reaction of single poll results. It is one of the most entertaining parts of being on here. We will see how many mentions the Yougov gets later.kle4 said:
Apparently I look at a different PB, as what I see is PB Tories get excited by polls showing the Tories doing well, and not liking the ones which do not, and PB non-Tories mocking that no-one mentions the latter, even when they do (just not as much as the ones they like obviously). The myth of the 'Tories polling poorly so not mentioned' is just that, a myth.compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Ah, I see, gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.Dair said:
No I was specifically using the term Apartheid as the mechanism the state uses to promote sectarianism - i.e. the school system.GeoffM said:
I saw the comment and the question too. My interpretation was sectarianism and I thought the reference germinated from an earlier thread diversion into football. Which would be one of your "associated effects", I guess?Alistair said:FTP Thread
I don't know for certain but I assume when @Dair was talking about apartheid in Scotland he was talking about Religious Schooling and its associated effects.
Helps me see your comment in the right context now.0 -
The last Survation poll had a Labour lead of six.0
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the trend is the friend and labour are on the descent, for them the only way is down! and definitely not Essexcompouter2 said:
I also enjoy the knee jerk reaction of single poll results. It is one of the most entertaining parts of being on here. We will see how many mentions the Yougov gets later.kle4 said:
Apparently I look at a different PB, as what I see is PB Tories get excited by polls showing the Tories doing well, and not liking the ones which do not, and PB non-Tories mocking that no-one mentions the latter, even when they do (just not as much as the ones they like obviously). The myth of the 'Tories polling poorly so not mentioned' is just that, a myth.compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
But isn't it the 33 for labour which is the issue??kle4 said:36% would actually be a pretty amusing final Tory score - it'd be fun to see where the end up, seats wise, with the same percentage as last time.
Oh and as I said before - will someone start tackling soon? Has the gallant little Belgian done for England?0 -
Even if that were true why would it be something to get so worked up about?compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
InterestingTheScreamingEagles said:As Nick Palmer would say, tick tock
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/5793430545045954570 -
I'm on Tor from all of my usual machines so yes, there's no easy technical solution.RobD said:
There is probably a limit to how well someone can be uniquely identified, for instance using a VPN or Tor to connect through a different IP address. Not sure what isam is trying to demonstrate with this, that the mods don't spend every waking hour verifying a new user isn't the same as an old, banned user.Roger said:ISAM
"Also managed to get banned as two people in a week and sneak back under the radar"
That's impressive. Certainly one to watch. Do we have a name?
Commenting style is the least scientific but the most reliable guide.
Unless you pick the username TheLastBobbaFettScoutAccount#7 of course.0 -
This has to be one of the craziest games of rugby I have ever seen.0
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Is like the end of season match between England and the BarbariansDavidL said:This has to be one of the craziest games of rugby I have ever seen.
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Of course, this should receive a glorious ELBOW upweighting to its obvious gold standard status... just sayin'!Sunil_Prasannan said:
InterestingTheScreamingEagles said:As Nick Palmer would say, tick tock
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/5793430545045954570 -
I swear, never before even in jest have I been so certain my individual attention is somehow impacting a sporting event - I don't think England have scored a point whenever I click over, and something terrible is always going on instead. With the amount of points conceded by both sides, that's remarkably unlucky if nothing else.0
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The actual figures show Tories have a lead of over 3%:
Con 35.8
Lab 32.6
Lib 7.2
UKIP 13.7
Green 6.2
In Scotland:
Con 24.6
Lab 32.0
Lib 4.5
Green 4.5
UKIP 4.5
SNP 30.6
Baxtering that (changed UKIP, LD and Green from 4.5 to 4.2 in scotland to get it below 100% gives:
C305
L298
LD10
Green 1
SNP 14
UKIP 0
I suspect the SNP figure is distorted by Scotland only having a small sample (134). Add another 25 SNP seats at the expense of Labour and it has got a distinct whiff of Jack W's ARSE.
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The one time the ref could not see anything he did not call in the TV and the ball was dropped! Lucky England
Oh not what a load of rubbish - another try from a push or drive over!! For France!!! This is not rugby.
Will missed French conversions give England this title!!0 -
Here's a tip. Talk about it. It's not a difficult concept.compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
This French Team seems to be built on similar principles to the England and Wales cricket team.
With a similar outcome.0 -
England are going to win this match in the same style the Conservatives win the general Election.0
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He doesnt need to hand pick his audience he is good at that kind of thing. He wasnt running scared of the debates, or a big jessie. It was a calculation and negotiating tactic. You have to give him credit to getting what he wanted. There are few people who could out debate cameron he is very very good. This is all about limiting Milibands exposure. He isnt as bad as he is made out to be.malcolmg said:
He really is a big jessie, scared unless it is just him talking to a hand picked audience.SMukesh said:It is really funny all these Tories predicting ED IS going to be hammered when it`s their leader who is the chicken.
Cameron ran scared of the debates for a reason,ladies!
It's the same with Ed, he gets lambasted for the whole brother thing. Actually, someone who is willing to push the envelope and spot a weakness, and then exploit is the kind of person you need. That ruthless streak which got him leadership of his party is a credit.
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Who is worked up, it's just a statement of fact. Which will be proven in the next few hours.Ishmael_X said:
Even if that were true why would it be something to get so worked up about?compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Thanks for the tip.saddened said:
Here's a tip. Talk about it. It's not a difficult concept.compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Mr Dair regularly uses the terms nationalists and loyalists. We all know the kind of language he is using and why he is using it.GeoffM said:
I saw the comment and the question too. My interpretation was sectarianism and I thought the reference germinated from an earlier thread diversion into football. Which would be one of your "associated effects", I guess?Alistair said:FTP Thread
I don't know for certain but I assume when @Dair was talking about apartheid in Scotland he was talking about Religious Schooling and its associated effects.
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proven? You know what the next polls are?compouter2 said:
Who is worked up, it's just a statement of fact. Which will be proven in the next few hours.Ishmael_X said:
Even if that were true why would it be something to get so worked up about?compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
SNP are "weighted" from 73 to 43.Paul_Mid_Beds said:The actual figures show Tories have a lead of over 3%:
Con 35.8
Lab 32.6
Lib 7.2
UKIP 13.7
Green 6.2
In Scotland:
Con 24.6
Lab 32.0
Lib 4.5
Green 4.5
UKIP 4.5
SNP 30.6
Baxtering that (changed UKIP, LD and Green from 4.5 to 4.2 in scotland to get it below 100% gives:
C305
L298
LD10
Green 1
SNP 14
UKIP 0
I suspect the SNP figure is distorted by Scotland only having a small sample (134). Add another 25 SNP seats at the expense of Labour and it has got a distinct whiff of Jack W's ARSE.0 -
compouter knows everything - even the numbers for polls that have yet to be takenRobD said:
proven? You know what the next polls are?compouter2 said:
Who is worked up, it's just a statement of fact. Which will be proven in the next few hours.Ishmael_X said:
Even if that were true why would it be something to get so worked up about?compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:
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If you think it has anything to do with Ulster, you are very much mistaken. When I did retain some indoctrination in such things I was very much on the opposite side to the one you infer.notme said:
Mr Dair regularly uses the terms nationalists and loyalists. We all know the kind of language he is using and why he is using it.GeoffM said:
I saw the comment and the question too. My interpretation was sectarianism and I thought the reference germinated from an earlier thread diversion into football. Which would be one of your "associated effects", I guess?Alistair said:FTP Thread
I don't know for certain but I assume when @Dair was talking about apartheid in Scotland he was talking about Religious Schooling and its associated effects.0 -
You are.compouter2 said:
Who is worked up, it's just a statement of fact. Which will be proven in the next few hours.Ishmael_X said:
Even if that were true why would it be something to get so worked up about?compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:
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;-)oxfordsimon said:
compouter knows everything - even that numbers for polls that have yet to be takenRobD said:
proven? You know what the next polls are?compouter2 said:
Who is worked up, it's just a statement of fact. Which will be proven in the next few hours.Ishmael_X said:
Even if that were true why would it be something to get so worked up about?compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:
He is that good0 -
You're welcome, I couldn't work out if you where whining or thick you see.compouter2 said:
Thanks for the tip.saddened said:
Here's a tip. Talk about it. It's not a difficult concept.compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
ARF!saddened said:
You're welcome, I couldn't work out if you where whining or thick you see.compouter2 said:
Thanks for the tip.saddened said:
Here's a tip. Talk about it. It's not a difficult concept.compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
The problem for the Conservatives at the time was that they had also bought into the perpetual boom thing. While they warned about the deficit (it wasnt particularly large, but it was on the wrong side of sensible, and at the point in the economic cycle (2006/7/8) there really shouldnt be a deficit.FrankBooth said:TSE - Eh. It was the absurdity of the electoral system that saw Labour win in 2005 not the Tories fail in 2010. The Tories convinced 37% of the British people to support them in 2010 which didn't provide a majority of seats. They were lucky however that a party that had fought three elections to the left of Labour absurdly decided to form a 5 year coalition with the Tories.
As for the financial crisis it should have helped the Tories as the main opposition party. However they revealed themselves as such a pair of shallow lightweights (as admitted by the then Bank of England Governor) that they couldn't take advantage.
But it was hard to pin things on Brown, he had gained a reputation as an iron chancellor when he kept to very difficult spending plans the Conservatives had left him, at that point a growing economy, reduced spending and increasing employment was filling up the treasury. The 3g windfalls were put against the debt, we were a few decisions away from being debt free.
At that point Brown decided to ramp up public spending.
Cameron and Osborne are not cutters, they arent right wing libertarian ideologues. They are just trying to put the system back together.0 -
:-)Ishmael_X said:
You are.compouter2 said:
Who is worked up, it's just a statement of fact. Which will be proven in the next few hours.Ishmael_X said:
Even if that were true why would it be something to get so worked up about?compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Except it isn't, but I guess we can let that go in favour of one's favourite personal meme. I'd be annoyed if I couldn't find the opportunity to do my personal thing - although fortunately I can always find the opportunity to be self righteous, which is my thing, if not mine alone.compouter2 said:
Who is worked up, it's just a statement of fact.Ishmael_X said:
Even if that were true why would it be something to get so worked up about?compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:
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Adios.kle4 said:
Except it isn't, but I guess we can let that go in favour of one's favourite personal meme. I'd be annoyed if I couldn't find the opportunity to do my personal thing - although fortunately I can always find the opportunity to be self righteous, which is my thing, if not mine alone.compouter2 said:
Who is worked up, it's just a statement of fact.Ishmael_X said:
Even if that were true why would it be something to get so worked up about?compouter2 said:
The only poll that gets talked about on here is the one that shows the Tories in the best light. It doesn't matter which polling company it is, it swaps on a daily/weekly basis, even ICM lost it's gold standard for not being over Hodged. It's the PB way.SquareRoot said:
And if they don't, what will you say then..?compouter2 said:
When Labour go back in front in the next Opinium poll, it will be ignored.TheScreamingEagles said:
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Is now the time to remind fans that Ford was born in Oldham (on the fringes of the Northern Powerhouse) and is the son of former Wigan Rugby League half back Mike Ford.
To be fair its obvious from his running lines.0 -
Labour lead down from 0.5 to 0.1RobD said:
Of course, this should receive a glorious ELBOW upweighting to its obvious gold standard status... just sayin'!Sunil_Prasannan said:
InterestingTheScreamingEagles said:As Nick Palmer would say, tick tock
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/5793430545045954570 -
Fabulous entertainment
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So, England for the World Cup then?
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Amazing match. Shame England's defence couldn't hold up. Also, Haskell is a turd.0
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@Dannythefink: Nigel Farage's approval/disapproval ratings as measured by Opinium and published today are exactly the same as Ed Miliband's.0
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Well that was awesome. The yellow card cost them the 6 Nations. And some very poor lineouts. But what a game0
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So close, so exciting...and to think the Scottish guy got over the try line in the last few minutes of the Ireland game and dropped the ball....
However, Ireland were the best team overall.
But I don't think the New Zealander are going to be having too many sleepless nights over playing Northern Hemisphere teams in the WC.0 -
Glad I went to the pub to watch the match. Didn't think we would do it, but the boys did all that was asked of them . A thoroughly good advert for international rugby. My main gripe is that we weren't making the tackles and when we did, not hitting the French hard enough. But kudos to the crapauds for fighting to the end.0
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My 20 poll average has them neck and neck at the moment. Mainly because Excel rounds 0.5 down for some reason :-( This should be back to a Tory lead.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Labour lead down from 0.5 to 0.1RobD said:
Of course, this should receive a glorious ELBOW upweighting to its obvious gold standard status... just sayin'!Sunil_Prasannan said:
InterestingTheScreamingEagles said:As Nick Palmer would say, tick tock
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/579343054504595457
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Seconded - cracking match although frustrating at times. - point of note: you can never hit a Frenchman too hard..JohnLilburne said:Glad I went to the pub to watch the match. Didn't think we would do it, but the boys did all that was asked of them . A thoroughly good advert for international rugby. My main gripe is that we weren't making the tackles and when we did, not hitting the French hard enough. But kudos to the crapauds for fighting to the end.
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Plus England scored a try from a dropped ball...FrancisUrquhart said:So close, so exciting...and to think the Scottish guy got over the try line in the last few minutes of the Ireland game and dropped the ball....
However, Ireland were the best team overall.
But I don't think the New Zealander are going to be having too many sleepless nights over playing Northern Hemisphere teams in the WC.0 -
Stuart Hogg's post match drinks are on the Irish.0
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As Admiral Lord Nelson said, you should hate a Frenchman as you hate the Devil.SimonStClare said:
Seconded - cracking match although frustrating at times. - point of note: you can never hit a Frenchman too hard..JohnLilburne said:Glad I went to the pub to watch the match. Didn't think we would do it, but the boys did all that was asked of them . A thoroughly good advert for international rugby. My main gripe is that we weren't making the tackles and when we did, not hitting the French hard enough. But kudos to the crapauds for fighting to the end.
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Well .... that was a dull afternoon of rugby.0
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10 polls so far this week:JohnLilburne said:
My 20 poll average has them neck and neck at the moment. Mainly because Excel rounds 0.5 down for some reason :-( This should be back to a Tory lead.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Labour lead down from 0.5 to 0.1RobD said:
Of course, this should receive a glorious ELBOW upweighting to its obvious gold standard status... just sayin'!Sunil_Prasannan said:
InterestingTheScreamingEagles said:As Nick Palmer would say, tick tock
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/579343054504595457
simple average =
Con 33.6
Lab 33.5
ELBOW aggregate =
Lab 33.7
Con 33.6
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Flightpath said:
Plus England scored a try from a dropped ball...FrancisUrquhart said:So close, so exciting...and to think the Scottish guy got over the try line in the last few minutes of the Ireland game and dropped the ball....
However, Ireland were the best team overall.
But I don't think the New Zealander are going to be having too many sleepless nights over playing Northern Hemisphere teams in the WC.
Dropped and jumped on... Surely legitimate?Flightpath said:
Plus England scored a try from a dropped ball...FrancisUrquhart said:So close, so exciting...and to think the Scottish guy got over the try line in the last few minutes of the Ireland game and dropped the ball....
However, Ireland were the best team overall.
But I don't think the New Zealander are going to be having too many sleepless nights over playing Northern Hemisphere teams in the WC.
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And so did France...All very exciting.Flightpath said:
Plus England scored a try from a dropped ball...FrancisUrquhart said:So close, so exciting...and to think the Scottish guy got over the try line in the last few minutes of the Ireland game and dropped the ball....
However, Ireland were the best team overall.
But I don't think the New Zealander are going to be having too many sleepless nights over playing Northern Hemisphere teams in the WC.
The thing is if you are the best team, you shouldn't be at a stage where you are relying on one try here or there over the course of 5 games. I don't think the New Zealanders will have that problem in the group stages of WC.0 -
That's what I like, spanking the French by 20 points, and feeling disappointed.0
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Oh good poll for the Tories by the way.0
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What sort of amounts of money are being bet on these individual constituency markets? If we're talking about tiny markets with little interest I think we should be interpreting with caution.0
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That Courtney Laws tackle was barn-stormer.SimonStClare said:
Seconded - cracking match although frustrating at times. - point of note: you can never hit a Frenchman too hard..JohnLilburne said:Glad I went to the pub to watch the match. Didn't think we would do it, but the boys did all that was asked of them . A thoroughly good advert for international rugby. My main gripe is that we weren't making the tackles and when we did, not hitting the French hard enough. But kudos to the crapauds for fighting to the end.
England though made the same mistake for all 5 games. Lots and lots of unforced errors in good positions e.g lost lots of line-outs near the opposition line. Too many aimless kicks. Poor restarts. Dan Cole giving away way too many penalties at the breakdowns.
Wales were very poor for a lot of the six nations, didn't it out to the likes of George North anywhere near enough. They showed today when they did start to move it, how dangerous the back line can be.
Ireland, have an efficient but uninspiring approach. Miss the great O'Driscoll etc.
Scotland.....better move on....
Italy....get better each year. Remember they were beating Wales for first 39 minutes.0 -
Napoleon, Joan of Arc, D'Artagnan, Eric Cantona, Rene Descartes, Alexandre Dumas, Asterix, Coco Chanel, Jacques Clouseau, can you hear me, Jacques Clouseau can you hear me, Jacques Clouseau your boys took one hell of beating0
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So near yet so far for the cheddar eating shirt lifters?0 -
I do not want to defend France because their winger did not deserve to be awarded that try, but it probably was, just, a try.FrancisUrquhart said:
And so did France...All very exciting.Flightpath said:
Plus England scored a try from a dropped ball...FrancisUrquhart said:So close, so exciting...and to think the Scottish guy got over the try line in the last few minutes of the Ireland game and dropped the ball....
However, Ireland were the best team overall.
But I don't think the New Zealander are going to be having too many sleepless nights over playing Northern Hemisphere teams in the WC.
The thing is if you are the best team, you shouldn't be at a stage where you are relying on one try here or there over the course of 5 games. I don't think the New Zealanders will have that problem in the group stages of WC.
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