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  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,485
    edited 10:21AM

    HYUFD said:

    'Fantastic result in my constituency!
    22-year-old George Braeckman has taken a ward the Lib Dems have held since 1995.

    In one fell swoop he’s ended 3 decades of Lib Dem control and put Reform in third place 🎉

    So good to see Young Conservatives stepping up. Congrats, George!'

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2070422241234362425?s=20

    Lib Dems not winning here!

    Nor in Hertsmere:

    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    9h
    Bushey Park (Hertsmere) Council By-Election Result:

    🌳 CON: 42.9% (+3.4)
    🔶 LDM: 32.9% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 19.1% (New)
    🌍 GRN: 2.8% (New)
    🌹 LAB: 2.3% (-5.8)

    Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat.
    Changes w/ 2023.
    There were quite a lot (?25) of council by election yesterday; any more results to hand? I gather there were a couple of good ones in Wales for Plaid Cymru.
    I did see an overview from Andrew Teale:

    Scores:
    RUK 7 +3
    Grn 4 nc
    Lab 4 -2
    C 2 +1
    PC 2 nc
    Ind 1 nc
    LD 1 -2
    3 results to come
    Quite a good day, so far for Ref and the Cons, so far then.
    Certainly the 2 conservative gains from Lib Dems were a bit unexpected
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,228
    edited 10:19AM
    Dura_Ace said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!

    Eh, what’s up Doc 
    @rabbitSZN2
    ·
    24 Jun
    Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?

    Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.

    The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.

    The paint failed exactly as predicted.

    By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.

    Surface prep 101.

    Six innocent people arrested.

    https://x.com/rabbitSZN2/status/2069591490196889806?s=20

    I have no idea who is right and wrong in this, but how much tyre dust and motor oil are those cars dropping? Its not my 1972 mini.*

    We had a Mini Van as a squadron hack at Valley. It had 13,000 miles on it (rarely left the aerodrome) and leaked from the pan, filter, rocker cover and timing chain cover. I fucking snapped one weekend and put a scrap yard 1275GT engine in it that I paid for with my own money. That leaked from the rear main that wasn't really a seal but some metal scroll contraption.
    Wife likes it to be as 'original' as possible. Leaks are very authentic.
    K24 swap. She'll never know until VTEC kicks in.

    https://potentialmotorsport.com/shop/conversion-kits/k-series-kit/
    That's the sort of website I love - one that screams out to you "If you don't know what all these acronyms and codes mean, just PISS OFF!"
  • pm215pm215 Posts: 1,443

    If the best attack on Burnham is that he called for a GE in 2022, I think he will be fine.

    Its not the best attack but its the one to use when he shows his hypocrisy. Of course all oppositions do this if/when a government changes PM (ok, its mainly been the Tories) but its surely sauce for the gander.
    Hardly hypocrisy when the constitutional precedent has by now been well and truly established by the Tories and reaffirmed in recent years. The only hypocrisy is from those like Badenoch who are calling for a GE on exactly the same grounds that they ignored twice in 2022.
    No, its still hypocrisy, even if you can respond and say that you are following precedent.

    Right now the talk is all about what Burnham might enact in policy. Well that wasn't in the manifesto, hence a need for a GE. Pretty simple really.
    It's an obvious attack and you might as well make it, but I suspect that anybody who isn't already pretty partisan isn't going to care or remember in six months time. When Sunak lost it wasn't because the electorate were punishing the tories for not calling a GE three years earlier. If Burnham doesn't take an early GE then he'll be judged one way or the other on whether he did anything effective with those three years.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 48,116

    Dura_Ace said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!

    Eh, what’s up Doc 
    @rabbitSZN2
    ·
    24 Jun
    Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?

    Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.

    The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.

    The paint failed exactly as predicted.

    By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.

    Surface prep 101.

    Six innocent people arrested.

    https://x.com/rabbitSZN2/status/2069591490196889806?s=20

    I have no idea who is right and wrong in this, but how much tyre dust and motor oil are those cars dropping? Its not my 1972 mini.*

    We had a Mini Van as a squadron hack at Valley. It had 13,000 miles on it (rarely left the aerodrome) and leaked from the pan, filter, rocker cover and timing chain cover. I fucking snapped one weekend and put a scrap yard 1275GT engine in it that I paid for with my own money. That leaked from the rear main that wasn't really a seal but some metal scroll contraption.
    Wife likes it to be as 'original' as possible. Leaks are very authentic.
    K24 swap. She'll never know until VTEC kicks in.

    https://potentialmotorsport.com/shop/conversion-kits/k-series-kit/
    That's the sort of website I love - one that screams out to you "If you don't know what all these acronyms and codes mean, just PISS OFF!"
    GIRFUY surely.
  • Wulfrun_PhilWulfrun_Phil Posts: 5,278
    edited 10:28AM

    If the best attack on Burnham is that he called for a GE in 2022, I think he will be fine.

    Its not the best attack but its the one to use when he shows his hypocrisy. Of course all oppositions do this if/when a government changes PM (ok, its mainly been the Tories) but its surely sauce for the gander.
    Hardly hypocrisy when the constitutional precedent has by now been well and truly established by the Tories and reaffirmed in recent years. The only hypocrisy is from those like Badenoch who are calling for a GE on exactly the same grounds that they ignored twice in 2022.
    No, its still hypocrisy, even if you can respond and say that you are following precedent.

    Right now the talk is all about what Burnham might enact in policy. Well that wasn't in the manifesto, hence a need for a GE. Pretty simple really.
    No, the only hypocrisy is for a party of the right to consider that only parties of the left are obliged to hold general elections when the PM changes while in office, because that's what these calls combined with their previous actions amount to.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,228
    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    Sandpit said:

    On topic, you have to factor in whether you think Burnham will go early or not.

    If he does, he will go soon (in October, say) and Labour Majority will be value.

    If he goes long, then it's a mix-up.

    One newspaper has been going back to 2022 Twitter…


    Fascinating that Andy doesn't get a picture even here.
    It's a spectacular piece of branding.
    They have just used their current Twitter profile pics.
    Nevertheless. Barely any photos were used in the Makerfield campaign.
    There are instantly recognisable images.

    Slightly dodgy overtones of Big Brother there imo.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,423

    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    Sandpit said:

    On topic, you have to factor in whether you think Burnham will go early or not.

    If he does, he will go soon (in October, say) and Labour Majority will be value.

    If he goes long, then it's a mix-up.

    One newspaper has been going back to 2022 Twitter…


    Fascinating that Andy doesn't get a picture even here.
    It's a spectacular piece of branding.
    They have just used their current Twitter profile pics.
    Nevertheless. Barely any photos were used in the Makerfield campaign.
    There are instantly recognisable images.

    Slightly dodgy overtones of Big Brother there imo.


    Gotta do it properly.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,530

    Dura_Ace said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!

    Eh, what’s up Doc 
    @rabbitSZN2
    ·
    24 Jun
    Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?

    Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.

    The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.

    The paint failed exactly as predicted.

    By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.

    Surface prep 101.

    Six innocent people arrested.

    https://x.com/rabbitSZN2/status/2069591490196889806?s=20

    I have no idea who is right and wrong in this, but how much tyre dust and motor oil are those cars dropping? Its not my 1972 mini.*

    We had a Mini Van as a squadron hack at Valley. It had 13,000 miles on it (rarely left the aerodrome) and leaked from the pan, filter, rocker cover and timing chain cover. I fucking snapped one weekend and put a scrap yard 1275GT engine in it that I paid for with my own money. That leaked from the rear main that wasn't really a seal but some metal scroll contraption.
    Wife likes it to be as 'original' as possible. Leaks are very authentic.
    K24 swap. She'll never know until VTEC kicks in.

    https://potentialmotorsport.com/shop/conversion-kits/k-series-kit/
    That's the sort of website I love - one that screams out to you "If you don't know what all these acronyms and codes mean, just PISS OFF!"
    GIRFUY surely.
    What does that mean, please!
  • eekeek Posts: 34,229

    Dura_Ace said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!

    Eh, what’s up Doc 
    @rabbitSZN2
    ·
    24 Jun
    Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?

    Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.

    The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.

    The paint failed exactly as predicted.

    By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.

    Surface prep 101.

    Six innocent people arrested.

    https://x.com/rabbitSZN2/status/2069591490196889806?s=20

    I have no idea who is right and wrong in this, but how much tyre dust and motor oil are those cars dropping? Its not my 1972 mini.*

    We had a Mini Van as a squadron hack at Valley. It had 13,000 miles on it (rarely left the aerodrome) and leaked from the pan, filter, rocker cover and timing chain cover. I fucking snapped one weekend and put a scrap yard 1275GT engine in it that I paid for with my own money. That leaked from the rear main that wasn't really a seal but some metal scroll contraption.
    Wife likes it to be as 'original' as possible. Leaks are very authentic.
    K24 swap. She'll never know until VTEC kicks in.

    https://potentialmotorsport.com/shop/conversion-kits/k-series-kit/
    That's the sort of website I love - one that screams out to you "If you don't know what all these acronyms and codes mean, just PISS OFF!"
    GIRFUY surely.
    What does that mean, please!
    It. means
    Get It Right F****ng Up Ye

    Our Scottish members do seem to be rather more coarse than the majority of other members.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 48,116

    Dura_Ace said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!

    Eh, what’s up Doc 
    @rabbitSZN2
    ·
    24 Jun
    Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?

    Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.

    The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.

    The paint failed exactly as predicted.

    By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.

    Surface prep 101.

    Six innocent people arrested.

    https://x.com/rabbitSZN2/status/2069591490196889806?s=20

    I have no idea who is right and wrong in this, but how much tyre dust and motor oil are those cars dropping? Its not my 1972 mini.*

    We had a Mini Van as a squadron hack at Valley. It had 13,000 miles on it (rarely left the aerodrome) and leaked from the pan, filter, rocker cover and timing chain cover. I fucking snapped one weekend and put a scrap yard 1275GT engine in it that I paid for with my own money. That leaked from the rear main that wasn't really a seal but some metal scroll contraption.
    Wife likes it to be as 'original' as possible. Leaks are very authentic.
    K24 swap. She'll never know until VTEC kicks in.

    https://potentialmotorsport.com/shop/conversion-kits/k-series-kit/
    That's the sort of website I love - one that screams out to you "If you don't know what all these acronyms and codes mean, just PISS OFF!"
    GIRFUY surely.
    What does that mean, please!
    Get it right fucking up ye.

    Glasgow term of endearment.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 15,661
    Smith is a terrible keeper.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,147

    Dura_Ace said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!

    Eh, what’s up Doc 
    @rabbitSZN2
    ·
    24 Jun
    Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?

    Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.

    The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.

    The paint failed exactly as predicted.

    By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.

    Surface prep 101.

    Six innocent people arrested.

    https://x.com/rabbitSZN2/status/2069591490196889806?s=20

    I have no idea who is right and wrong in this, but how much tyre dust and motor oil are those cars dropping? Its not my 1972 mini.*

    We had a Mini Van as a squadron hack at Valley. It had 13,000 miles on it (rarely left the aerodrome) and leaked from the pan, filter, rocker cover and timing chain cover. I fucking snapped one weekend and put a scrap yard 1275GT engine in it that I paid for with my own money. That leaked from the rear main that wasn't really a seal but some metal scroll contraption.
    Wife likes it to be as 'original' as possible. Leaks are very authentic.
    K24 swap. She'll never know until VTEC kicks in.

    https://potentialmotorsport.com/shop/conversion-kits/k-series-kit/
    That's the sort of website I love - one that screams out to you "If you don't know what all these acronyms and codes mean, just PISS OFF!"
    GIRFUY surely.
    What does that mean, please!
    Getting irritable regarding football umbrage yet
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,238
    Woke Rembrandt

    Rembrandt painting was altered to erase turban from man’s head, restorers find
    Exclusive: Unknown hand covered up artist’s depiction of diverse crowd during influx of refugees to Leiden in 1620s
    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2026/jun/25/rembrandt-painting-was-altered-to-erase-turban-from-mans-head-restorers-find
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 48,116
    eek said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!

    Eh, what’s up Doc 
    @rabbitSZN2
    ·
    24 Jun
    Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?

    Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.

    The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.

    The paint failed exactly as predicted.

    By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.

    Surface prep 101.

    Six innocent people arrested.

    https://x.com/rabbitSZN2/status/2069591490196889806?s=20

    I have no idea who is right and wrong in this, but how much tyre dust and motor oil are those cars dropping? Its not my 1972 mini.*

    We had a Mini Van as a squadron hack at Valley. It had 13,000 miles on it (rarely left the aerodrome) and leaked from the pan, filter, rocker cover and timing chain cover. I fucking snapped one weekend and put a scrap yard 1275GT engine in it that I paid for with my own money. That leaked from the rear main that wasn't really a seal but some metal scroll contraption.
    Wife likes it to be as 'original' as possible. Leaks are very authentic.
    K24 swap. She'll never know until VTEC kicks in.

    https://potentialmotorsport.com/shop/conversion-kits/k-series-kit/
    That's the sort of website I love - one that screams out to you "If you don't know what all these acronyms and codes mean, just PISS OFF!"
    GIRFUY surely.
    What does that mean, please!
    It. means
    Get It Right F****ng Up Ye

    Our Scottish members do seem to be rather more coarse than the majority of other members.
    Ooh, get Lady Bracknell!

    Or rather

    Ooh, get Lady fucking Bracknell!
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,639
    If the Tories demand a general election NOW they are essentially saying that they want Farage as PM.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 28,184
    pm215 said:

    IanB2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Labour plans automatic tax deductions from state pension

    Basic rate to be applied to payments that exceed the tax-free allowance from next year, reports say


    Income tax will be automatically deducted from state pensions for millions of retirees under plans being considered by Labour, The Telegraph understands.

    Under the plans, the basic 20pc rate of tax could be applied to payments when the value of the state pension rises beyond the tax-free allowance of £12,570 next year.

    It comes after Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, previously said retirees who live only on the state pension would not be forced to pay tax when their income crosses the threshold.

    But research commissioned by the Department for Work and Pensions, and circulated within Whitehall, proposes deducting the basic tax rate from all state pension payments before they are sent to retirees.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/pensions/state-pensions/income-tax-to-automatically-come-out-of-state-pension/

    Another Labour attack on higher earning and wealthy pensioners after the WFA cut
    Idiot. They already pay tax, it just has to be taken from other sources of income.
    Except there's a threshold of around a few hundred pounds where for retired people they don't bother, as the IR told me recently when sorting out my late mother's affairs
    Morning all.

    IIRC, from completing my tax form, a pensioner is allowed to earn £1k from 'bits and pieces' before the Revenue has to be told. I was glad to be told this as I audit the books of a couple of local charities and very occasionally sell a story to a magazine.
    Although I haven't for a while now.
    £1k trading allowance open to all not just pensioners.
    The conv I had with HMRC was about savings income, not trading
    Sounds like the 1K savings interest income allowance, which is for all basic rate taxpayers ?
    Yes that is available to all basic rate taxpayers (500 higher rate, 0 additional rate).

    Additionally, available to all ages, but more relevant to pensioners just above state pension, is the starting rate for savings, which if your total non savings income is <£17570, gives a further tax free savings allowance, £5000 at the personal allowance, reduced by £1 per £1 income until you hit £17570 when it becomes £0.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,682

    HYUFD said:

    'Fantastic result in my constituency!
    22-year-old George Braeckman has taken a ward the Lib Dems have held since 1995.

    In one fell swoop he’s ended 3 decades of Lib Dem control and put Reform in third place 🎉

    So good to see Young Conservatives stepping up. Congrats, George!'

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2070422241234362425?s=20

    Lib Dems not winning here!

    Nor in Hertsmere:

    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    9h
    Bushey Park (Hertsmere) Council By-Election Result:

    🌳 CON: 42.9% (+3.4)
    🔶 LDM: 32.9% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 19.1% (New)
    🌍 GRN: 2.8% (New)
    🌹 LAB: 2.3% (-5.8)

    Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat.
    Changes w/ 2023.
    Not going to be a simple transfer, but the optics of LibDem --> Reform vote is a weird one...
  • eekeek Posts: 34,229

    eek said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!

    Eh, what’s up Doc 
    @rabbitSZN2
    ·
    24 Jun
    Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?

    Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.

    The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.

    The paint failed exactly as predicted.

    By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.

    Surface prep 101.

    Six innocent people arrested.

    https://x.com/rabbitSZN2/status/2069591490196889806?s=20

    I have no idea who is right and wrong in this, but how much tyre dust and motor oil are those cars dropping? Its not my 1972 mini.*

    We had a Mini Van as a squadron hack at Valley. It had 13,000 miles on it (rarely left the aerodrome) and leaked from the pan, filter, rocker cover and timing chain cover. I fucking snapped one weekend and put a scrap yard 1275GT engine in it that I paid for with my own money. That leaked from the rear main that wasn't really a seal but some metal scroll contraption.
    Wife likes it to be as 'original' as possible. Leaks are very authentic.
    K24 swap. She'll never know until VTEC kicks in.

    https://potentialmotorsport.com/shop/conversion-kits/k-series-kit/
    That's the sort of website I love - one that screams out to you "If you don't know what all these acronyms and codes mean, just PISS OFF!"
    GIRFUY surely.
    What does that mean, please!
    It. means
    Get It Right F****ng Up Ye

    Our Scottish members do seem to be rather more coarse than the majority of other members.
    Ooh, get Lady Bracknell!

    Or rather

    Ooh, get Lady fucking Bracknell!
    As my mum said

    Swearing is not big and not f***ing clever
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,770

    If the Tories demand a general election NOW they are essentially saying that they want Farage as PM.

    Reform's call for a general election now seems less than full-throated.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 28,184

    HYUFD said:

    'Fantastic result in my constituency!
    22-year-old George Braeckman has taken a ward the Lib Dems have held since 1995.

    In one fell swoop he’s ended 3 decades of Lib Dem control and put Reform in third place 🎉

    So good to see Young Conservatives stepping up. Congrats, George!'

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2070422241234362425?s=20

    Lib Dems not winning here!

    Nor in Hertsmere:

    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    9h
    Bushey Park (Hertsmere) Council By-Election Result:

    🌳 CON: 42.9% (+3.4)
    🔶 LDM: 32.9% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 19.1% (New)
    🌍 GRN: 2.8% (New)
    🌹 LAB: 2.3% (-5.8)

    Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat.
    Changes w/ 2023.
    Not going to be a simple transfer, but the optics of LibDem --> Reform vote is a weird one...
    Not really, voters had a choice between Con, Lab and LD in 2023. Almost anyone wanting the Tories out would vote LD.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,147

    If the Tories demand a general election NOW they are essentially saying that they want Farage as PM.

    Burnham, surely!
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,770

    HYUFD said:

    'Fantastic result in my constituency!
    22-year-old George Braeckman has taken a ward the Lib Dems have held since 1995.

    In one fell swoop he’s ended 3 decades of Lib Dem control and put Reform in third place 🎉

    So good to see Young Conservatives stepping up. Congrats, George!'

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2070422241234362425?s=20

    Lib Dems not winning here!

    Nor in Hertsmere:

    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    9h
    Bushey Park (Hertsmere) Council By-Election Result:

    🌳 CON: 42.9% (+3.4)
    🔶 LDM: 32.9% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 19.1% (New)
    🌍 GRN: 2.8% (New)
    🌹 LAB: 2.3% (-5.8)

    Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat.
    Changes w/ 2023.
    Not going to be a simple transfer, but the optics of LibDem --> Reform vote is a weird one...
    LibDem to Reform looks weird until you reframe it as NOTA to NOTA.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,682

    HYUFD said:

    'Fantastic result in my constituency!
    22-year-old George Braeckman has taken a ward the Lib Dems have held since 1995.

    In one fell swoop he’s ended 3 decades of Lib Dem control and put Reform in third place 🎉

    So good to see Young Conservatives stepping up. Congrats, George!'

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2070422241234362425?s=20

    Lib Dems not winning here!

    Nor in Hertsmere:

    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    9h
    Bushey Park (Hertsmere) Council By-Election Result:

    🌳 CON: 42.9% (+3.4)
    🔶 LDM: 32.9% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 19.1% (New)
    🌍 GRN: 2.8% (New)
    🌹 LAB: 2.3% (-5.8)

    Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat.
    Changes w/ 2023.
    Not going to be a simple transfer, but the optics of LibDem --> Reform vote is a weird one...
    Not really, voters had a choice between Con, Lab and LD in 2023. Almost anyone wanting the Tories out would vote LD.

    HYUFD said:

    'Fantastic result in my constituency!
    22-year-old George Braeckman has taken a ward the Lib Dems have held since 1995.

    In one fell swoop he’s ended 3 decades of Lib Dem control and put Reform in third place 🎉

    So good to see Young Conservatives stepping up. Congrats, George!'

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2070422241234362425?s=20

    Lib Dems not winning here!

    Nor in Hertsmere:

    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    9h
    Bushey Park (Hertsmere) Council By-Election Result:

    🌳 CON: 42.9% (+3.4)
    🔶 LDM: 32.9% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 19.1% (New)
    🌍 GRN: 2.8% (New)
    🌹 LAB: 2.3% (-5.8)

    Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat.
    Changes w/ 2023.
    Not going to be a simple transfer, but the optics of LibDem --> Reform vote is a weird one...
    Not really, voters had a choice between Con, Lab and LD in 2023. Almost anyone wanting the Tories out would vote LD.
    Does emphasise that the LibDems have to play defence.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,275

    Smith is a terrible keeper.

    Surrey's reserve keeper?
    Hadn't realised Foakes had crocked himself BOWLING in a dead game vs Essex. Doh!!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,245
    https://x.com/kateferguson4/status/2070455737743028524

    NEW: On Shabana Vs Tapp:

    Mike Tapp's requests for documents and meetings will now have to be approved by the Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 28,184
    edited 11:05AM

    HYUFD said:

    'Fantastic result in my constituency!
    22-year-old George Braeckman has taken a ward the Lib Dems have held since 1995.

    In one fell swoop he’s ended 3 decades of Lib Dem control and put Reform in third place 🎉

    So good to see Young Conservatives stepping up. Congrats, George!'

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2070422241234362425?s=20

    Lib Dems not winning here!

    Nor in Hertsmere:

    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    9h
    Bushey Park (Hertsmere) Council By-Election Result:

    🌳 CON: 42.9% (+3.4)
    🔶 LDM: 32.9% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 19.1% (New)
    🌍 GRN: 2.8% (New)
    🌹 LAB: 2.3% (-5.8)

    Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat.
    Changes w/ 2023.
    Not going to be a simple transfer, but the optics of LibDem --> Reform vote is a weird one...
    Not really, voters had a choice between Con, Lab and LD in 2023. Almost anyone wanting the Tories out would vote LD.

    HYUFD said:

    'Fantastic result in my constituency!
    22-year-old George Braeckman has taken a ward the Lib Dems have held since 1995.

    In one fell swoop he’s ended 3 decades of Lib Dem control and put Reform in third place 🎉

    So good to see Young Conservatives stepping up. Congrats, George!'

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2070422241234362425?s=20

    Lib Dems not winning here!

    Nor in Hertsmere:

    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    9h
    Bushey Park (Hertsmere) Council By-Election Result:

    🌳 CON: 42.9% (+3.4)
    🔶 LDM: 32.9% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 19.1% (New)
    🌍 GRN: 2.8% (New)
    🌹 LAB: 2.3% (-5.8)

    Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat.
    Changes w/ 2023.
    Not going to be a simple transfer, but the optics of LibDem --> Reform vote is a weird one...
    Not really, voters had a choice between Con, Lab and LD in 2023. Almost anyone wanting the Tories out would vote LD.
    Does emphasise that the LibDems have to play defence.
    LDs popularity tends to rely on how bad Conservatives are, what "they play" themselves doesn't really make that much difference as much as that will annoy all their hard working party apparatchiks.
  • PeterCairnsPeterCairns Posts: 247
    carnforth said:

    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    Sandpit said:

    On topic, you have to factor in whether you think Burnham will go early or not.

    If he does, he will go soon (in October, say) and Labour Majority will be value.

    If he goes long, then it's a mix-up.

    One newspaper has been going back to 2022 Twitter…


    Fascinating that Andy doesn't get a picture even here.
    It's a spectacular piece of branding.
    They have just used their current Twitter profile pics.
    Nevertheless. Barely any photos were used in the Makerfield campaign.
    There are instantly recognisable images.

    Slightly dodgy overtones of Big Brother there imo.


    Gotta do it properly.
    Isn’t that Criton from Red Dearf?

    IanB2 said:

    DavidL said:

    DougSeal said:

    Sandpit said:

    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    On topic, you have to factor in whether you think Burnham will go early or not.

    If he does, he will go soon (in October, say) and Labour Majority will be value.

    If he goes long, then it's a mix-up.

    One newspaper has been going back to 2022 Twitter…


    The response will be that oppositions will use any excuse to try and get an election. Truss / Rishi didn’t so I don’t need to.

    See you in 2.5 years time

    Got to say having wasted 2 years Labour had given Andy a lot of work to do
    Tories need to ask the right question though.

    “Four years ago, you said that a change of PM should be accompanied by a general election. Were you lying then, or are you lying now?”

    In Parliament “Did you mis-speak then, or are you mis-speaking now?”
    “If you think there should be an election now then why didn’t not call for one 4 years ago?”

    This bollocks is repeated every time. I remember it when Thatcher resigned and I was only 16 then.
    Won't stop Labour from repeating it the next time roles are reversed. I am not entirely sure what repeating this kind of nonsense says about politicians view of the average voter but its not good. They think we all have the memory of a goldfish.
    Opposition politicians almost always call for an election when they can, and almost always will. No surprise, on either side.
    Not just Elections, but By Elections, Resignations & Enquiries.

    What about Rules that says;

    if you call for a resignation and they resign you need to too or if they change Party’s and you want a By Election you need to do the same.

    If you resign your seat you need to pay the salary of the new MP for the rest of the Parliament.

    Oh and if you call for a Enquiry and they have an Enquiry your Party has to pay for it!

    Peter.
    If an MP changes party then I think it is fair enough that there should be a by election. Many voters vote for the rosette not the chest its on. I don't see why calling for such a thing should mean your seat also needs a by election. That's just weird.
    I wasn’t being entirely serious just responding to people’s general frustration at the pettiness of our Politics!

    Peter.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 48,116
    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,258
    Cookie said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Interesting that Labour is now seen as having slightly more chance than Reform or the Tories of an overall majority. I think with Burnham that is a possibility in a way it would not have been with Starmer. Burnham could get a small majority given his higher favourable ratings than Farage or Badenoch, helped by anti Reform tactical votes in Labour v Reform marginal seats, though that would likely still see around 100 Labour MPs lose their seats.

    If that was the case, then another Labour majority and a clear defeat for both Reform and the Tories would clearly see both Farage and Kemi resign. In which case as long as we keep FPTP a new figure would be needed to unite the right as clearly the division between Reform and the Tories would have played a big part in re electing Labour given on the MiC poll this week while a Burnham led Labour leads Reform by just 1% and the Tories by just 4% the Tories and Reform combined are still on 49% of the vote even against Burnham. Who could that figure be? Only one I can see who could do that is Jacob Rees Mogg if he wins back his seat, The Mogg could reunite the right in the same way Corbyn united the left

    World class 'havering' as the Scots would say

    Rees Mogg to unite the right is a weird dream of yours
    Which Tory leader can you see being acceptable enough to Reform voters after a Farage resignation to vote Tory again then other than Mogg? If Burnham wins the next general election and Labour is re elected as polls now suggest may occur assuming Burnham replaces Starmer as PM and Farage and Kemi both resign the leaderships of Reform and the Tories and say Rees Mogg, who won back his old seat helped by squeezing Reform voters, replaces Kemi as Tory leader and Zia Yusuf replaces Farage as Reform leader I could easily see the Reform vote collapsing to the Tories even if a few Tories who voted for Kemi go Labour or LD and a few Reform voters go Restore as even the Mogg isn't hardline enough for them
    Is Rees Mogg that popular among Reform voters? The stereotypical Reform voter is a builder from Barnsley - he may not abhor Rees Mogg in the same way the liberal left do but I can't imagine him being wildly enthused either.
    The Tory voters the Conservatives have lost to Reform since 2019 certainly have a strong approval of Mogg
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,155
    Only five wicket-keepers have taken 50 or more catches since 1 July 2024, and Jamie Smith's catching percentage of 94% is second only to Muhammad Rizwan's 96%.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,847

    HYUFD said:

    'Fantastic result in my constituency!
    22-year-old George Braeckman has taken a ward the Lib Dems have held since 1995.

    In one fell swoop he’s ended 3 decades of Lib Dem control and put Reform in third place 🎉

    So good to see Young Conservatives stepping up. Congrats, George!'

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2070422241234362425?s=20

    Lib Dems not winning here!

    Nor in Hertsmere:

    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    9h
    Bushey Park (Hertsmere) Council By-Election Result:

    🌳 CON: 42.9% (+3.4)
    🔶 LDM: 32.9% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 19.1% (New)
    🌍 GRN: 2.8% (New)
    🌹 LAB: 2.3% (-5.8)

    Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat.
    Changes w/ 2023.
    There were quite a lot (?25) of council by election yesterday; any more results to hand? I gather there were a couple of good ones in Wales for Plaid Cymru.
    I did see an overview from Andrew Teale:

    Scores:
    RUK 7 +3
    Grn 4 nc
    Lab 4 -2
    C 2 +1
    PC 2 nc
    Ind 1 nc
    LD 1 -2
    3 results to come
    Quite a good day, so far for Ref and the Cons, so far then.
    Certainly the 2 conservative gains from Lib Dems were a bit unexpected
    Something is stirring in the Tories. Kemi seems to be doing a decent job. Her personal ratings are improving.

    It doesn’t matter what the polls say now, it matters at the election.

    At this stage in the last parliament the Tories were on for a landslide.
  • PeterCairnsPeterCairns Posts: 247
    carnforth said:

    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    Sandpit said:

    On topic, you have to factor in whether you think Burnham will go early or not.

    If he does, he will go soon (in October, say) and Labour Majority will be value.

    If he goes long, then it's a mix-up.

    One newspaper has been going back to 2022 Twitter…


    Fascinating that Andy doesn't get a picture even here.
    It's a spectacular piece of branding.
    They have just used their current Twitter profile pics.
    Nevertheless. Barely any photos were used in the Makerfield campaign.
    There are instantly recognisable images.

    Slightly dodgy overtones of Big Brother there imo.


    Gotta do it properly.
    Is that Kryten from Red Dwarf…I’d vote for him!

    Peter.

  • TazTaz Posts: 28,847

    HYUFD said:

    'Fantastic result in my constituency!
    22-year-old George Braeckman has taken a ward the Lib Dems have held since 1995.

    In one fell swoop he’s ended 3 decades of Lib Dem control and put Reform in third place 🎉

    So good to see Young Conservatives stepping up. Congrats, George!'

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2070422241234362425?s=20

    Lib Dems not winning here!

    Nor in Hertsmere:

    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    9h
    Bushey Park (Hertsmere) Council By-Election Result:

    🌳 CON: 42.9% (+3.4)
    🔶 LDM: 32.9% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 19.1% (New)
    🌍 GRN: 2.8% (New)
    🌹 LAB: 2.3% (-5.8)

    Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat.
    Changes w/ 2023.
    Not going to be a simple transfer, but the optics of LibDem --> Reform vote is a weird one...
    LibDem to Reform looks weird until you reframe it as NOTA to NOTA.
    Same with Reform to Green, which definitely was happening a while back after the Green spurt.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,258
    Taz said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    A possible Labour "it's different" line on a GE could be that Truss trashed any semblance of the manifesto and thus, by Sunak it stood trashed.

    Where as the deliverables on the 2024 manifesto will remain the framework for the Burnham government.

    It might lead to some questions on tax and spend but those should be reasonably answerable.

    Look where that got Liz Truss.
    Truss' problem was she cut tax but not spending too, Burnham can increase spending but it would require him to increase taxes too
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,847
    edited 11:17AM
    HYUFD said:

    Taz said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    A possible Labour "it's different" line on a GE could be that Truss trashed any semblance of the manifesto and thus, by Sunak it stood trashed.

    Where as the deliverables on the 2024 manifesto will remain the framework for the Burnham government.

    It might lead to some questions on tax and spend but those should be reasonably answerable.

    Look where that got Liz Truss.
    Truss' problem was she cut tax but not spending too, Burnham can increase spending but it would require him to increase taxes too
    I hope he’s heard of the Laffer curve.

    I suspect, as there seems to be an active campaign in the left wing media to get him the job, Jedward Miliband will be Chancellor which is a frightening thought.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,682
    Taz said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Fantastic result in my constituency!
    22-year-old George Braeckman has taken a ward the Lib Dems have held since 1995.

    In one fell swoop he’s ended 3 decades of Lib Dem control and put Reform in third place 🎉

    So good to see Young Conservatives stepping up. Congrats, George!'

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2070422241234362425?s=20

    Lib Dems not winning here!

    Nor in Hertsmere:

    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    9h
    Bushey Park (Hertsmere) Council By-Election Result:

    🌳 CON: 42.9% (+3.4)
    🔶 LDM: 32.9% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 19.1% (New)
    🌍 GRN: 2.8% (New)
    🌹 LAB: 2.3% (-5.8)

    Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat.
    Changes w/ 2023.
    There were quite a lot (?25) of council by election yesterday; any more results to hand? I gather there were a couple of good ones in Wales for Plaid Cymru.
    I did see an overview from Andrew Teale:

    Scores:
    RUK 7 +3
    Grn 4 nc
    Lab 4 -2
    C 2 +1
    PC 2 nc
    Ind 1 nc
    LD 1 -2
    3 results to come
    Quite a good day, so far for Ref and the Cons, so far then.
    Certainly the 2 conservative gains from Lib Dems were a bit unexpected
    Something is stirring in the Tories. Kemi seems to be doing a decent job. Her personal ratings are improving.

    It doesn’t matter what the polls say now, it matters at the election.

    At this stage in the last parliament the Tories were on for a landslide.
    Kemi is getting the Tories a hearing for the first time since Boris. A way to go to turn it into votes, but it is the first part of the process.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,258

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 48,116
    Presumably Kemi didn’t campaign in the Aberdeen Harbour council by-election.

    🎗️ SNP: 33.1% (-9.1)
    🌹 LAB: 14.5% (-5.3)
    🌍 GRN: 13.2% (-0.7)
    ➡️ RFM: 10.1% (New)
    🔶 LDM: 9.2% (-2.2)
    🙋 Ind: 9.2% (New)
    🌳 CON: 8.3% (-2.7)
    🧑‍🔧 TUSC: 1.8% (New)
    ✊ ALS: 0.7% (New)

    No Ind (-1.8) as previous.

    SNP 'Gain' from Liberal Democrat - Stage 8.
    Changes w/ 2022.


    https://x.com/electionmapsuk/status/2070453762548781555?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 48,116
    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Yeah, there’s hardly been any discussion of Sneekypete on PB.

    Personally I feel abuse and rape of children comes a bit higher on the barometer of immorality, but that’s just me.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,847
    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Nothing to see here Guv.

    Embarrassing

    https://x.com/markthehibby/status/2069549064257978376?s=61
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,245
    https://x.com/steven_swinford/status/2070460175475994628

    Shabana Mahmood accuses Mike Tapp of breaching collective responsibility and calls for him to be sacked

    She also accuses him of threatening to 'leak documents' after he said he 'has the receipts'

    Here's a source close to Mahmood: “Mike Tapp wrote a piece in a national newspaper freelancing on policy without the knowledge or agreement of the Home Secretary or her team.

    “He took proposals that the Home Secretary was working on, and briefed them as his own.

    “In doing so, he has broken collective responsibility and has breached the Ministerial Code. Now he is threatening to leak sensitive documents. The Home Secretary has asked the Prime Minister to sack him.”
  • eekeek Posts: 34,229

    Taz said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Fantastic result in my constituency!
    22-year-old George Braeckman has taken a ward the Lib Dems have held since 1995.

    In one fell swoop he’s ended 3 decades of Lib Dem control and put Reform in third place 🎉

    So good to see Young Conservatives stepping up. Congrats, George!'

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2070422241234362425?s=20

    Lib Dems not winning here!

    Nor in Hertsmere:

    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    9h
    Bushey Park (Hertsmere) Council By-Election Result:

    🌳 CON: 42.9% (+3.4)
    🔶 LDM: 32.9% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 19.1% (New)
    🌍 GRN: 2.8% (New)
    🌹 LAB: 2.3% (-5.8)

    Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat.
    Changes w/ 2023.
    There were quite a lot (?25) of council by election yesterday; any more results to hand? I gather there were a couple of good ones in Wales for Plaid Cymru.
    I did see an overview from Andrew Teale:

    Scores:
    RUK 7 +3
    Grn 4 nc
    Lab 4 -2
    C 2 +1
    PC 2 nc
    Ind 1 nc
    LD 1 -2
    3 results to come
    Quite a good day, so far for Ref and the Cons, so far then.
    Certainly the 2 conservative gains from Lib Dems were a bit unexpected
    Something is stirring in the Tories. Kemi seems to be doing a decent job. Her personal ratings are improving.

    It doesn’t matter what the polls say now, it matters at the election.

    At this stage in the last parliament the Tories were on for a landslide.
    Kemi is getting the Tories a hearing for the first time since Boris. A way to go to turn it into votes, but it is the first part of the process.
    Farage can't risk interviews because he can't explain what the £5m was for

    Hence Kemi is going to be getting media appearances as the next best choice - which will hopefully remove the momentum Reform had.
  • TresTres Posts: 3,708
    Sandpit said:

    Roger said:

    The futures bright...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izrj3Rfm7o4

    The Democrats need to be careful her and get there messaging right;

    It’s not Israel that we are against but the way it’s current Government as acting!

    We love America as much or more than Trump we just don’t agree with what he’s doing!

    Peter.

    The problem is that these new “Democrats” are very much openly antisemites and communists.
    lol america this is quite serious, america this is the impression i get from looking in social media, america is this correct?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,964

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Everyone knows all the crimes that make up a large chunk of Northern Irish politics.

    But doing anything about those crimes would be socially gauche. Especially from their own side.

    "A haddin' o' the tongue", perhaps? Or "An cód ciúnais". depending on which foot you kick with, of course.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,258
    edited 11:26AM

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Yeah, there’s hardly been any discussion of Sneekypete on PB.

    Personally I feel abuse and rape of children comes a bit higher on the barometer of immorality, but that’s just me.
    No convicted sex abusers ever been elected SNP representatives of course and not noticed by the SNP. 'A former Scottish National party council leader has been sentenced to 18 months in prison after being found guilty of sexual offences against young men and teenagers as young as 14.

    Jordan Linden, once considered a rising star in the SNP, was convicted of five sexual assaults on young men after a trial at Falkirk sheriff court in March, which heard that the SNP had “downplayed or ignored” complaints about his behaviour.'
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/06/jordan-linden-former-snp-council-leader-jailed-sexual-offences-young-men-boys

    Former SNP leader Salmond was on trial for attempted rape and sexual assault, though to be fair to him acquitted
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 51,077
    edited 11:26AM

    https://x.com/steven_swinford/status/2070460175475994628

    Shabana Mahmood accuses Mike Tapp of breaching collective responsibility and calls for him to be sacked

    She also accuses him of threatening to 'leak documents' after he said he 'has the receipts'

    Here's a source close to Mahmood: “Mike Tapp wrote a piece in a national newspaper freelancing on policy without the knowledge or agreement of the Home Secretary or her team.

    “He took proposals that the Home Secretary was working on, and briefed them as his own.

    “In doing so, he has broken collective responsibility and has breached the Ministerial Code. Now he is threatening to leak sensitive documents. The Home Secretary has asked the Prime Minister to sack him.”

    This phrase "have the receipts" seems to be having a moment.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,847
    eek said:

    Taz said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Fantastic result in my constituency!
    22-year-old George Braeckman has taken a ward the Lib Dems have held since 1995.

    In one fell swoop he’s ended 3 decades of Lib Dem control and put Reform in third place 🎉

    So good to see Young Conservatives stepping up. Congrats, George!'

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2070422241234362425?s=20

    Lib Dems not winning here!

    Nor in Hertsmere:

    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    9h
    Bushey Park (Hertsmere) Council By-Election Result:

    🌳 CON: 42.9% (+3.4)
    🔶 LDM: 32.9% (-19.5)
    ➡️ RFM: 19.1% (New)
    🌍 GRN: 2.8% (New)
    🌹 LAB: 2.3% (-5.8)

    Conservative GAIN from Liberal Democrat.
    Changes w/ 2023.
    There were quite a lot (?25) of council by election yesterday; any more results to hand? I gather there were a couple of good ones in Wales for Plaid Cymru.
    I did see an overview from Andrew Teale:

    Scores:
    RUK 7 +3
    Grn 4 nc
    Lab 4 -2
    C 2 +1
    PC 2 nc
    Ind 1 nc
    LD 1 -2
    3 results to come
    Quite a good day, so far for Ref and the Cons, so far then.
    Certainly the 2 conservative gains from Lib Dems were a bit unexpected
    Something is stirring in the Tories. Kemi seems to be doing a decent job. Her personal ratings are improving.

    It doesn’t matter what the polls say now, it matters at the election.

    At this stage in the last parliament the Tories were on for a landslide.
    Kemi is getting the Tories a hearing for the first time since Boris. A way to go to turn it into votes, but it is the first part of the process.
    Farage can't risk interviews because he can't explain what the £5m was for

    Hence Kemi is going to be getting media appearances as the next best choice - which will hopefully remove the momentum Reform had.
    Exactly and his inability to shut it down coupled with his brittle and thin skinned responses to it really don’t come over well.

    In an election campaign if he was a contender he’d crash and burn.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,134
    Oh, just 14 runs from that over…
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 48,116
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Yeah, there’s hardly been any discussion of Sneekypete on PB.

    Personally I feel abuse and rape of children comes a bit higher on the barometer of immorality, but that’s just me.
    No convicted sex abusers ever been elected SNP representatives of course. Former SNP leader Salmond was on trial for rape, though to be fair to him acquitted

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/06/jordan-linden-former-snp-council-leader-jailed-sexual-offences-young-men-boys
    Yeah, unfortunately politics seems to be rife with it, but afaik no one in the SNP had nonce in chief Sir Jimmy Savile roond for Crimbo for example.
    My point for the hard of thinking is its salience on PB depending on which party is committing it.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,245
    kinabalu said:

    https://x.com/steven_swinford/status/2070460175475994628

    Shabana Mahmood accuses Mike Tapp of breaching collective responsibility and calls for him to be sacked

    She also accuses him of threatening to 'leak documents' after he said he 'has the receipts'

    Here's a source close to Mahmood: “Mike Tapp wrote a piece in a national newspaper freelancing on policy without the knowledge or agreement of the Home Secretary or her team.

    “He took proposals that the Home Secretary was working on, and briefed them as his own.

    “In doing so, he has broken collective responsibility and has breached the Ministerial Code. Now he is threatening to leak sensitive documents. The Home Secretary has asked the Prime Minister to sack him.”

    This phrase "have the receipts" seems to be having a moment.
    He’s going to spill the tea.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,847
    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    And they’re happy to let cross dressing rapist men who decide they’re women, like so-called Isla Bryson, into the women’s prison estate with all the risk that entails.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,155
    edited 11:37AM
    The third umpire has done the dirty on Mitch Santner.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,655
    Eabhal said:

    Feels like a full eclipse here. Everyone turning their lights on.

    Sunny and bright in the West
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,245
    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2070464802246312422

    NEW: No 10 says Keir Starmer is now "taking advice" on whether Mike Tapp should be sacked
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 6,041

    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2070464802246312422

    NEW: No 10 says Keir Starmer is now "taking advice" on whether Mike Tapp should be sacked

    Does he take advice on which side of the bed to get out of every morning?

    No wonder we got to this point.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,770

    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2070464802246312422

    NEW: No 10 says Keir Starmer is now "taking advice" on whether Mike Tapp should be sacked

    Yes, of course he is.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 8,178

    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2070464802246312422

    NEW: No 10 says Keir Starmer is now "taking advice" on whether Mike Tapp should be sacked

    Keir - I used to be indecisive but now I’m not so sure.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,964

    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2070464802246312422

    NEW: No 10 says Keir Starmer is now "taking advice" on whether Mike Tapp should be sacked

    Does he take advice on which side of the bed to get out of every morning?

    No wonder we got to this point.
    No, he doesn’t.

    Obviously.

    If he is in bed, he isn’t at his desk. And he can only do things after the papers have crossed his desk, to him.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,655

    DavidL said:

    Sandpit said:

    Don’t see too much of Russia on fire this morning, so instead have the 15km queue of thousands of vehicles waiting to get over the Kerch Bridge out of Crimea.

    https://x.com/maria_drutska/status/2070403688372269522

    Ukraine is telling everyone on the peninsula, civilian and military, to leave as soon as possible, and the Kerch Bridge is now the only reliable way out still left, for light vehicles only. There’s extensive disruption to power and water already, with the promise of more disruption to come.

    Said a couple of weeks ago that Russian control of Crimea was on the point of collapsing. If anything, I have been surprised with the speed of developments since then.
    Indeed. I do however wonder if continued attacks inside Russia itself are a good idea. As Putin weighs up yet another mobilisation, the Russian people must have wondered why they'd embarked on this damn sill SMO. Having the local petrol station blown up kind of answers that question.
    Of course it is a good idea , bomb the crap out of them. They are losing 1000 a day and will not be able to replenish them with other than civilians who will last about 2 minutes. The dumb Russian public will catch on at some point if the country does not run out of cash first.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,964

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Yeah, there’s hardly been any discussion of Sneekypete on PB.

    Personally I feel abuse and rape of children comes a bit higher on the barometer of immorality, but that’s just me.
    No convicted sex abusers ever been elected SNP representatives of course. Former SNP leader Salmond was on trial for rape, though to be fair to him acquitted

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/06/jordan-linden-former-snp-council-leader-jailed-sexual-offences-young-men-boys
    Yeah, unfortunately politics seems to be rife with it, but afaik no one in the SNP had nonce in chief Sir Jimmy Savile roond for Crimbo for example.
    My point for the hard of thinking is its salience on PB depending on which party is committing it.
    The studious ignoring of the crime fest in Northern Ireland is long standing.

    After all, it’s a bit hard to stand a Community Leader lunch, if you are officially aware that he is a drug dealing rapist and killer with a penchant for domestic abuse.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 8,178

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Yeah, there’s hardly been any discussion of Sneekypete on PB.

    Personally I feel abuse and rape of children comes a bit higher on the barometer of immorality, but that’s just me.
    No convicted sex abusers ever been elected SNP representatives of course. Former SNP leader Salmond was on trial for rape, though to be fair to him acquitted

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/06/jordan-linden-former-snp-council-leader-jailed-sexual-offences-young-men-boys
    Yeah, unfortunately politics seems to be rife with it, but afaik no one in the SNP had nonce in chief Sir Jimmy Savile roond for Crimbo for example.
    My point for the hard of thinking is its salience on PB depending on which party is committing it.
    The studious ignoring of the crime fest in Northern Ireland is long standing.

    After all, it’s a bit hard to stand a Community Leader lunch, if you are officially aware that he is a drug dealing rapist and killer with a penchant for domestic abuse.
    I don’t care if he’s a rapist as long as he’s a protestant/catholic rapist (delete as appropriate).
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,228
    Taz said:

    HYUFD said:

    Taz said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    A possible Labour "it's different" line on a GE could be that Truss trashed any semblance of the manifesto and thus, by Sunak it stood trashed.

    Where as the deliverables on the 2024 manifesto will remain the framework for the Burnham government.

    It might lead to some questions on tax and spend but those should be reasonably answerable.

    Look where that got Liz Truss.
    Truss' problem was she cut tax but not spending too, Burnham can increase spending but it would require him to increase taxes too
    I hope he’s heard of the Laffer curve.

    I suspect, as there seems to be an active campaign in the left wing media to get him the job, Jedward Miliband will be Chancellor which is a frightening thought.
    Where's the peak of the Laffer curve then Taz?

    A: No one has a scooby-do.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,964

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Yeah, there’s hardly been any discussion of Sneekypete on PB.

    Personally I feel abuse and rape of children comes a bit higher on the barometer of immorality, but that’s just me.
    No convicted sex abusers ever been elected SNP representatives of course. Former SNP leader Salmond was on trial for rape, though to be fair to him acquitted

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/06/jordan-linden-former-snp-council-leader-jailed-sexual-offences-young-men-boys
    Yeah, unfortunately politics seems to be rife with it, but afaik no one in the SNP had nonce in chief Sir Jimmy Savile roond for Crimbo for example.
    My point for the hard of thinking is its salience on PB depending on which party is committing it.
    The studious ignoring of the crime fest in Northern Ireland is long standing.

    After all, it’s a bit hard to stand a Community Leader lunch, if you are officially aware that he is a drug dealing rapist and killer with a penchant for domestic abuse.
    I don’t care if he’s a rapist as long as he’s a protestant/catholic rapist (delete as appropriate).
    You forgot the “To be sure, to be sure…”
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,847

    Taz said:

    HYUFD said:

    Taz said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    A possible Labour "it's different" line on a GE could be that Truss trashed any semblance of the manifesto and thus, by Sunak it stood trashed.

    Where as the deliverables on the 2024 manifesto will remain the framework for the Burnham government.

    It might lead to some questions on tax and spend but those should be reasonably answerable.

    Look where that got Liz Truss.
    Truss' problem was she cut tax but not spending too, Burnham can increase spending but it would require him to increase taxes too
    I hope he’s heard of the Laffer curve.

    I suspect, as there seems to be an active campaign in the left wing media to get him the job, Jedward Miliband will be Chancellor which is a frightening thought.
    Where's the peak of the Laffer curve then Taz?

    A: No one has a scooby-do.
    I’m sure raising taxes further will bring lots more revenue. 👍
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,763
    A strange case about Jurisdiction around the US Military in the UK.

    A sexual assault case by a US military officer where Cambridgeshire Police handed over Jurisdiction to the US Military police apparently when told the by US Military that they would handle it.

    A woman strangled by an American fighter pilot at his home in an English city has come forward to criticise the handling of his prosecution via a US court martial, a process she described as “military first, justice second”.

    Sarah Steele, a British academic, has come forward to speak about the “distressing and degrading” experience she had with the US military justice system after she was assaulted by the airman in Cambridge.


    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jun/26/male-jury-woman-strangled-by-us-pilot-britain-airbase-trial
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,887
    I actually very funny that Mahmood might be hung out to dry for successfully controlling immigration.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,847

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Yeah, there’s hardly been any discussion of Sneekypete on PB.

    Personally I feel abuse and rape of children comes a bit higher on the barometer of immorality, but that’s just me.
    No convicted sex abusers ever been elected SNP representatives of course. Former SNP leader Salmond was on trial for rape, though to be fair to him acquitted

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/06/jordan-linden-former-snp-council-leader-jailed-sexual-offences-young-men-boys
    Yeah, unfortunately politics seems to be rife with it, but afaik no one in the SNP had nonce in chief Sir Jimmy Savile roond for Crimbo for example.
    My point for the hard of thinking is its salience on PB depending on which party is committing it.
    The studious ignoring of the crime fest in Northern Ireland is long standing.

    After all, it’s a bit hard to stand a Community Leader lunch, if you are officially aware that he is a drug dealing rapist and killer with a penchant for domestic abuse.
    Our resident Scotch expert is somewhat late to the party for purely partisan reasons. So he is.

    Michael Stone, man of peace, Martin McGuinness, visionary.

    Johnny Adair, misunderstood.

    A guy I used to work with, based in Preston, said his wife occasionally had dealings with Adairs wife and a few drinks too. Class like that you cannot buy.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,655
    eek said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!

    Eh, what’s up Doc 
    @rabbitSZN2
    ·
    24 Jun
    Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?

    Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.

    The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.

    The paint failed exactly as predicted.

    By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.

    Surface prep 101.

    Six innocent people arrested.

    https://x.com/rabbitSZN2/status/2069591490196889806?s=20

    I have no idea who is right and wrong in this, but how much tyre dust and motor oil are those cars dropping? Its not my 1972 mini.*

    We had a Mini Van as a squadron hack at Valley. It had 13,000 miles on it (rarely left the aerodrome) and leaked from the pan, filter, rocker cover and timing chain cover. I fucking snapped one weekend and put a scrap yard 1275GT engine in it that I paid for with my own money. That leaked from the rear main that wasn't really a seal but some metal scroll contraption.
    Wife likes it to be as 'original' as possible. Leaks are very authentic.
    K24 swap. She'll never know until VTEC kicks in.

    https://potentialmotorsport.com/shop/conversion-kits/k-series-kit/
    That's the sort of website I love - one that screams out to you "If you don't know what all these acronyms and codes mean, just PISS OFF!"
    GIRFUY surely.
    What does that mean, please!
    It. means
    Get It Right F****ng Up Ye

    Our Scottish members do seem to be rather more coarse than the majority of other members.
    More sophisticated in our repartee I believe its what you are trying to say , less wimpy than the average banter and ripostes
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,847
    malcolmg said:

    eek said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Looks like some bastard did vandalise the reflecting pool!

    Eh, what’s up Doc 
    @rabbitSZN2
    ·
    24 Jun
    Who saw this a while back and just KNEW this was not gonna end well?

    Trump made his motorcade drive down the reflecting pool before it was sealed.

    The contractor didn’t clean up the motor oil and tire dust, they just painted right over it.

    The paint failed exactly as predicted.

    By June, massive gashes of blue lining were peeling off in the exact shape of the motorcade’s path. The oil trapped underneath stopped the paint from sticking.

    Surface prep 101.

    Six innocent people arrested.

    https://x.com/rabbitSZN2/status/2069591490196889806?s=20

    I have no idea who is right and wrong in this, but how much tyre dust and motor oil are those cars dropping? Its not my 1972 mini.*

    We had a Mini Van as a squadron hack at Valley. It had 13,000 miles on it (rarely left the aerodrome) and leaked from the pan, filter, rocker cover and timing chain cover. I fucking snapped one weekend and put a scrap yard 1275GT engine in it that I paid for with my own money. That leaked from the rear main that wasn't really a seal but some metal scroll contraption.
    Wife likes it to be as 'original' as possible. Leaks are very authentic.
    K24 swap. She'll never know until VTEC kicks in.

    https://potentialmotorsport.com/shop/conversion-kits/k-series-kit/
    That's the sort of website I love - one that screams out to you "If you don't know what all these acronyms and codes mean, just PISS OFF!"
    GIRFUY surely.
    What does that mean, please!
    It. means
    Get It Right F****ng Up Ye

    Our Scottish members do seem to be rather more coarse than the majority of other members.
    More sophisticated in our repartee I believe its what you are trying to say , less wimpy than the average banter and ripostes
    Malc, this place would be all the poorer if you weren’t here 👍
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,071

    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2070464802246312422

    NEW: No 10 says Keir Starmer is now "taking advice" on whether Mike Tapp should be sacked

    As I'm sure everybody noticed I have spent several months (over a year now) arguing that Starmer was simply not up to the job and should be sacked. Now that that goal is achieved it will take me a while to stop pointing out his manifest disadvantages and inadequacies, so I hope you will indulge me for a few weeks while I get this out of my system.

    Starmer is a grown adult. He should have realised he couldn't do the job and got out when he could with honour. He could have done it just like Ruth whatsername did many years ago. But he didn't and left the party having to import a mayor to kick him out. Even now, when his career lies rotting in the dust, he still prevaricates unnecessarily.

    :(
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,847
    edited 12:01PM

    I actually very funny that Mahmood might be hung out to dry for successfully controlling immigration.

    Well that’s hardly Labour Party, or for that matter Lib Dem, Tory or Green policy.

    In the case of,Labour and the Tories it’s pretend to oppose it while ramping it up. In the case of the Lib Dem’s and Greens all are welcome. Open door.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,639

    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2070464802246312422

    NEW: No 10 says Keir Starmer is now "taking advice" on whether Mike Tapp should be sacked

    Does he take advice on which side of the bed to get out of every morning?

    No wonder we got to this point.
    No, he doesn’t.

    Obviously.

    If he is in bed, he isn’t at his desk. And he can only do things after the papers have crossed his desk, to him.
    There'll be a bin liner on his desk, soon enough, labelled "Personal possessions only".
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,558

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Yeah, there’s hardly been any discussion of Sneekypete on PB.

    Personally I feel abuse and rape of children comes a bit higher on the barometer of immorality, but that’s just me.
    No convicted sex abusers ever been elected SNP representatives of course. Former SNP leader Salmond was on trial for rape, though to be fair to him acquitted

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/06/jordan-linden-former-snp-council-leader-jailed-sexual-offences-young-men-boys
    Yeah, unfortunately politics seems to be rife with it, but afaik no one in the SNP had nonce in chief Sir Jimmy Savile roond for Crimbo for example.
    My point for the hard of thinking is its salience on PB depending on which party is committing it.
    The studious ignoring of the crime fest in Northern Ireland is long standing.

    After all, it’s a bit hard to stand a Community Leader lunch, if you are officially aware that he is a drug dealing rapist and killer with a penchant for domestic abuse.
    I don’t care if he’s a rapist as long as he’s a protestant/catholic rapist (delete as appropriate).
    You forgot the “To be sure, to be sure…”
    This sounds like a single yellow line means no parking at all, a double yellow line means no parking at all, at all...
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,655
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Yeah, there’s hardly been any discussion of Sneekypete on PB.

    Personally I feel abuse and rape of children comes a bit higher on the barometer of immorality, but that’s just me.
    No convicted sex abusers ever been elected SNP representatives of course and not noticed by the SNP. 'A former Scottish National party council leader has been sentenced to 18 months in prison after being found guilty of sexual offences against young men and teenagers as young as 14.

    Jordan Linden, once considered a rising star in the SNP, was convicted of five sexual assaults on young men after a trial at Falkirk sheriff court in March, which heard that the SNP had “downplayed or ignored” complaints about his behaviour.'
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/06/jordan-linden-former-snp-council-leader-jailed-sexual-offences-young-men-boys

    Former SNP leader Salmond was on trial for attempted rape and sexual assault, though to be fair to him acquitted
    Take me weeks to post the absolute list of arses from Westminster and their depravities and they were mostly not aquitted
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,763
    edited 12:02PM
    Hmmm. Ooops. Given who has noticed they are likely going to have to fix that, or explain why it will not happen regularly.


    https://x.com/flickhwilliams/status/2070446130840637650
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,847

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Yeah, there’s hardly been any discussion of Sneekypete on PB.

    Personally I feel abuse and rape of children comes a bit higher on the barometer of immorality, but that’s just me.
    No convicted sex abusers ever been elected SNP representatives of course. Former SNP leader Salmond was on trial for rape, though to be fair to him acquitted

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/06/jordan-linden-former-snp-council-leader-jailed-sexual-offences-young-men-boys
    Yeah, unfortunately politics seems to be rife with it, but afaik no one in the SNP had nonce in chief Sir Jimmy Savile roond for Crimbo for example.
    My point for the hard of thinking is its salience on PB depending on which party is committing it.
    The studious ignoring of the crime fest in Northern Ireland is long standing.

    After all, it’s a bit hard to stand a Community Leader lunch, if you are officially aware that he is a drug dealing rapist and killer with a penchant for domestic abuse.
    I don’t care if he’s a rapist as long as he’s a protestant/catholic rapist (delete as appropriate).
    You forgot the “To be sure, to be sure…”
    So he did.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,655
    edited 12:04PM

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Yeah, there’s hardly been any discussion of Sneekypete on PB.

    Personally I feel abuse and rape of children comes a bit higher on the barometer of immorality, but that’s just me.
    They forget the feeding frenzy in Covid when their parties helped chums et al get billions upon billions nicked and never mention it now or even attempt to arrest anyone / recover a penny. Keep those HoL seats warms chaps and chapesses
    How many perverts etc have been covered up over the years down south as well, short selective memories indeed
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,847
    malcolmg said:

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Yeah, there’s hardly been any discussion of Sneekypete on PB.

    Personally I feel abuse and rape of children comes a bit higher on the barometer of immorality, but that’s just me.
    They forget the feeding frenzy in Covid when their parties helped chums et al get billions upon billions nicked and never mention it now or even attempt to arrest anyone / recover a penny. Keep those HoL seats warms chaps and chapesses
    How many perverts etc have been covered up over the years down south as well, short selective memories indeed
    You not laying claim to Mone and her partner as fellow Scots then Malc ?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,964
    Taz said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Yeah, there’s hardly been any discussion of Sneekypete on PB.

    Personally I feel abuse and rape of children comes a bit higher on the barometer of immorality, but that’s just me.
    No convicted sex abusers ever been elected SNP representatives of course. Former SNP leader Salmond was on trial for rape, though to be fair to him acquitted

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/06/jordan-linden-former-snp-council-leader-jailed-sexual-offences-young-men-boys
    Yeah, unfortunately politics seems to be rife with it, but afaik no one in the SNP had nonce in chief Sir Jimmy Savile roond for Crimbo for example.
    My point for the hard of thinking is its salience on PB depending on which party is committing it.
    The studious ignoring of the crime fest in Northern Ireland is long standing.

    After all, it’s a bit hard to stand a Community Leader lunch, if you are officially aware that he is a drug dealing rapist and killer with a penchant for domestic abuse.
    Our resident Scotch expert is somewhat late to the party for purely partisan reasons. So he is.

    Michael Stone, man of peace, Martin McGuinness, visionary.

    Johnny Adair, misunderstood.

    A guy I used to work with, based in Preston, said his wife occasionally had dealings with Adairs wife and a few drinks too. Class like that you cannot buy.
    Simply The Best, eh?
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,496
    malcolmg said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Yeah, there’s hardly been any discussion of Sneekypete on PB.

    Personally I feel abuse and rape of children comes a bit higher on the barometer of immorality, but that’s just me.
    No convicted sex abusers ever been elected SNP representatives of course and not noticed by the SNP. 'A former Scottish National party council leader has been sentenced to 18 months in prison after being found guilty of sexual offences against young men and teenagers as young as 14.

    Jordan Linden, once considered a rising star in the SNP, was convicted of five sexual assaults on young men after a trial at Falkirk sheriff court in March, which heard that the SNP had “downplayed or ignored” complaints about his behaviour.'
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/06/jordan-linden-former-snp-council-leader-jailed-sexual-offences-young-men-boys

    Former SNP leader Salmond was on trial for attempted rape and sexual assault, though to be fair to him acquitted
    Take me weeks to post the absolute list of arses from Westminster and their depravities and they were mostly not aquitted
    Why don't you just do that? The fact is that both you and I know that Alex Salmond was not to be trusted around women, acquittal or no acquittal.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,655
    Taz said:

    malcolmg said:

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Yeah, there’s hardly been any discussion of Sneekypete on PB.

    Personally I feel abuse and rape of children comes a bit higher on the barometer of immorality, but that’s just me.
    They forget the feeding frenzy in Covid when their parties helped chums et al get billions upon billions nicked and never mention it now or even attempt to arrest anyone / recover a penny. Keep those HoL seats warms chaps and chapesses
    How many perverts etc have been covered up over the years down south as well, short selective memories indeed
    You not laying claim to Mone and her partner as fellow Scots then Malc ?
    Scumbag traitors Taz, Cameron's best pal god knows how she ever got a bauble
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,639
    What's the difference between a good Reform gain and a bad Reform gain?

    Good:

    Wilnecote (Tamworth) Countermanded Election Result:

    ➡️ RFM: 46.4% (+33.2)
    🙋 Ind: 21.8% (New)
    🌳 CON: 12.2% (-20.0)
    🌹 LAB: 11.4% (-43.2)
    🌍 GRN: 8.2% (New)

    Reform GAIN from Conservative.
    Changes w/ 2024.

    Bad:

    Rhyl South (Denbighshire) Council By-Election Result:

    ➡️ RFM: 44.3% (New)
    🌼 PLC: 23.9% (New)
    🌹 LAB: 19.6% (-43.0)
    🌳 CON: 10.0% (-27.4)
    🔶 LDM: 1.5% (New)
    🌍 GRN: 0.7% (New)

    Reform GAIN from Labour.
    Changes w/ 2022.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,463
    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Equivalence? FFS.

    It's that sort of excuse that helps perpetuate attacks and worse on women.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,655
    Battlebus said:

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Equivalence? FFS.

    It's that sort of excuse that helps perpetuate attacks and worse on women.
    He is an absolute disgrace, nasty nasty piece of work.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,847
    malcolmg said:

    Taz said:

    malcolmg said:

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Yeah, there’s hardly been any discussion of Sneekypete on PB.

    Personally I feel abuse and rape of children comes a bit higher on the barometer of immorality, but that’s just me.
    They forget the feeding frenzy in Covid when their parties helped chums et al get billions upon billions nicked and never mention it now or even attempt to arrest anyone / recover a penny. Keep those HoL seats warms chaps and chapesses
    How many perverts etc have been covered up over the years down south as well, short selective memories indeed
    You not laying claim to Mone and her partner as fellow Scots then Malc ?
    Scumbag traitors Taz, Cameron's best pal god knows how she ever got a bauble
    Whole honours thing is disgusting. For every Floella Benjamin there’s dozens like her and Tom Watson.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 48,116
    What an absolute twat. Steve Reed must now officially hand over the Labour prince of dim twats crown to Tapp.



    https://x.com/matt_dathan/status/2070468278011523111?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,682

    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2070464802246312422

    NEW: No 10 says Keir Starmer is now "taking advice" on whether Mike Tapp should be sacked

    Does he take advice on which side of the bed to get out of every morning?

    No wonder we got to this point.
    No, he doesn’t.

    Obviously.

    If he is in bed, he isn’t at his desk. And he can only do things after the papers have crossed his desk, to him.
    There'll be a bin liner on his desk, soon enough, labelled "Personal possessions only".
    Perhaps it gets upgraded to a red box.

    For old time's sake.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,964

    What an absolute twat. Steve Reed must now officially hand over the Labour prince of dim twats crown to Tapp.



    https://x.com/matt_dathan/status/2070468278011523111?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Is there a hierarchy of twats then?

    Dim Twat
    Twat
    Major Twat
    Turbo Twat
    Absolute Twat

    ?

    If so, what happens when someone out does an “Absolute Twat”?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,485
    malcolmg said:

    Battlebus said:

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Equivalence? FFS.

    It's that sort of excuse that helps perpetuate attacks and worse on women.
    He is an absolute disgrace, nasty nasty piece of work.
    Good afternoon @malcolmg

    Hope you and your good lady are well and keeping cool

    34% here and no breeze

    @HYUFD comment was inappropriate

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,231

    What an absolute twat. Steve Reed must now officially hand over the Labour prince of dim twats crown to Tapp.



    https://x.com/matt_dathan/status/2070468278011523111?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Is there a hierarchy of twats then?

    Dim Twat
    Twat
    Major Twat
    Turbo Twat
    Absolute Twat

    ?

    If so, what happens when someone out does an “Absolute Twat”?
    Are you suggesting that they might Trump it?
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,029

    If the best attack on Burnham is that he called for a GE in 2022, I think he will be fine.

    Its not the best attack but its the one to use when he shows his hypocrisy. Of course all oppositions do this if/when a government changes PM (ok, its mainly been the Tories) but its surely sauce for the gander.
    Hardly hypocrisy when the constitutional precedent has by now been well and truly established by the Tories and reaffirmed in recent years. The only hypocrisy is from those like Badenoch who are calling for a GE on exactly the same grounds that they ignored twice in 2022.
    No, its still hypocrisy, even if you can respond and say that you are following precedent.

    Right now the talk is all about what Burnham might enact in policy. Well that wasn't in the manifesto, hence a need for a GE. Pretty simple really.
    No, the only hypocrisy is for a party of the right to consider that only parties of the left are obliged to hold general elections when the PM changes while in office, because that's what these calls combined with their previous actions amount to.
    No, it is both hypocrisy and par for the course.

    All parties do it. It is another irregular verb.

    What it won't do is damage the PM, as the public is used to this level of hypocrisy and it is priced in.

    Opponents will complain, supporters will bat it away, and normal people will continue to care about whatever actually affects them and not minutiae of who said what and when years ago.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,682

    What an absolute twat. Steve Reed must now officially hand over the Labour prince of dim twats crown to Tapp.



    https://x.com/matt_dathan/status/2070468278011523111?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    He sounds like he would be right at home in Reform...
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 743
    It’s end of term here in Edinburgh. Just back from seeing No. 2 child finish primary school.
    10 years and 2 kids through the school and we’re done. Now we have 2 high school kids.
    Bittersweet tears were shed.
    Hugs were had.
    Memories were made.
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 5,358

    malcolmg said:

    Battlebus said:

    HYUFD said:

    I know PB has probably had too much* discussion of the head of a Unionist party in government in NI and that supported a Westminster government being a multiple abuser and rapist, but it seems a shitload of people knew.

    *hardly any


    Jeffrey Donaldson: child rapist

    Edwin Poots: ‘caught Donaldson on lies’, said nothing

    Jim Wells: ‘knew Donaldson to be immoral’, said nothing

    Paisley Jr: knew of a “victim” of Donaldson, said nothing

    Anon DUP sources: knew Donaldson told lies, said nothing

    What is going on?

    https://x.com/scottmoore0/status/2070247111933788377?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Just like nobody in the SNP said anything about Murrell nicking hundreds of thousands of pounds I suppose!
    Equivalence? FFS.

    It's that sort of excuse that helps perpetuate attacks and worse on women.
    He is an absolute disgrace, nasty nasty piece of work.
    Good afternoon @malcolmg

    Hope you and your good lady are well and keeping cool

    34% here and no breeze

    @HYUFD comment was inappropriate

    It's our hottest yet here in North Brum. Currently 35.7C at our nearest weather station on Weather Underground.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,687

    What an absolute twat. Steve Reed must now officially hand over the Labour prince of dim twats crown to Tapp.



    https://x.com/matt_dathan/status/2070468278011523111?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Is there a hierarchy of twats then?

    Dim Twat
    Twat
    Major Twat
    Turbo Twat
    Absolute Twat

    ?

    If so, what happens when someone out does an “Absolute Twat”?
    Then PB’ers will know that our Leon has been unbanned
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,238
    I set 'em up...

    Liz Truss: 'There’s no political party at present in Britain that represents exactly what I think'
    https://x.com/ConHome/status/2069662005305209102
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,687
    Tonight’s Norway France looks like a potentially cracking match?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 21,281

    If the best attack on Burnham is that he called for a GE in 2022, I think he will be fine.

    Its not the best attack but its the one to use when he shows his hypocrisy. Of course all oppositions do this if/when a government changes PM (ok, its mainly been the Tories) but its surely sauce for the gander.
    Hardly hypocrisy when the constitutional precedent has by now been well and truly established by the Tories and reaffirmed in recent years. The only hypocrisy is from those like Badenoch who are calling for a GE on exactly the same grounds that they ignored twice in 2022.
    No, its still hypocrisy, even if you can respond and say that you are following precedent.

    Right now the talk is all about what Burnham might enact in policy. Well that wasn't in the manifesto, hence a need for a GE. Pretty simple really.
    It's hypocrisy if the situations are the same. Most of the examples given appear to be Labour politicians commenting on the Truss->Sunak change. One might say that the Tories being on a third PM since the election and the chaos of the Truss period make then different to now.
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