Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
A few years ago a friend of mine was on a flight where a woman got pissed and tried to open the door mid flight, the blokes who were trying to restrain her didn't have decency to punch her, until another woman went up and punched her lights out.
And how many times does that happen compared to the number of flights and how many times is it due to booze ?
Do you seriously advocate banning booze before a flight and on a flight simply due to an anecdotal episode ?
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
People who went to state school also know words.
Disappointing also that teaching is considered a waste of talent.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
A few years ago a friend of mine was on a flight where a woman got pissed and tried to open the door mid flight, the blokes who were trying to restrain her didn't have decency to punch her, until another woman went up and punched her lights out.
People don’t understand that it’s physically impossible to open the plane’s door at altitude.
The pressure in the aircraft is 6-7psi, and the door needs to move inward to open. So if the door is 80” x 30” in size, you need 80x30x6 =14,400 lbs of pressure to move the door. That’s seven tonnes, you can’t do it.
Yes you’re still getting arrested though, and endangering aircraft can get you prison time.
Ooh, are we going to start seeing consequences for those involved?
Not yet. Jane McCloud is being referred for not cooperating with the inquiry by running off to Australia. The other, Gould, is a former solicitor of Seema Misra who appears to have raised dodgy invoices. Of the two only the latter, not a PO lawyer, will see consequences given McCloud is on the other side of the world. Significantly neither were heard from at the inquiry.
I’ve no doubt that when Sir Wyn finally reports those who were questioned at the inquiry will be referred.
What an absurd system. If this was working class rather than middle class criminals there is no way the state would actively design a system that protects them from prosecution for a couple of decades.
They’re not even being prosecuted by the State, they’re under investigation by their own professional body. The harshest punishment available is that they’re stuck off the register as practicing solicitors.
No. A number of them are under investigation by the Metropolitan Police. Which is another complication. All the lawyers who got a warning against self incrimination from Sir Wyn are liable to prosecution. It’s the same for the lawyers and non-lawyers at the PO
So they’re going to no-comment the SRO process to avoid incriminating themselves in potential criminal cases down the line?
These two specifically are likely being referred by the SRA because they are not under police investigation. I have heard that the criminal prosecution and the SRA prosecutions will both commence immediately after Sir Wyn reports
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
A few years ago a friend of mine was on a flight where a woman got pissed and tried to open the door mid flight, the blokes who were trying to restrain her didn't have decency to punch her, until another woman went up and punched her lights out.
And how many times does that happen compared to the number of flights and how many times is it due to booze ?
Do you seriously advocate banning booze before a flight and on a flight simply due to an anecdotal episode ?
If you ban alcohol, many flights will be totally unbeerable.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
People who went to state school also know words.
On a good day we can line up a whole rack of them in the exact order needed for a sentence.
Baffling. @tse seems to have bought into the Burnham fantasy. As I quite like being a member of PB I won't point and laugh as much as I should, but still!
No.
He’s an improvement on Starmer but then again my cat would also be an improvement on Starmer.
My cat's vomit would be an improvement on Starmer.
"Tough on furballs, tough on the causes of furballs."
This is about as good a response to KB's jibe at PMQs as he could muster. I still don't like Burnham, but he is infinitely more likeable than SKS
You’d definitely choose Burnham over Starmer as the guy you meet for a beer or two.
Personally I have a bit of a soft spot for him, for his work on the Hillsborough Inquiry.
He got booed and shouted down by the memorial service Anfield crowd as SoS DCMS, and got a standing ovation from that same crowd a couple of years later.
At the minute it feels like a lot of people are projecting onto him the sort of leader they wish the Labour government had, rather than judging him on what he’s actually saying and doing.
Oh indeed. He still comes across as a totally empty suit, but at least he’s more personable and empathetic than the other empty suit he replaces.
Could you name any current politicians who are "full suits"?
Now that’s a good question. I suspect Cameron was probably the last one, or Corbyn (who had principals even if I disagreed vehmently with them).
Sienna Rodgers @siennamarla NEW: The Labour leadership timetable I revealed on Tuesday has been signed off by the full NEC
Confirmed that if there is just one candidate as expected and Burnham gets the required affiliate nominations, it all ends on 16 July with a special conference the next day
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Well you can fly Saudia then. No drinks in their lounges nor on their planes.
Haven't the Saudis got the World Cup next? ISTR one of them said you could enjoy football without alcohol. Wankers.
2034 is Saudi.
In Qatar they banned alcohol from stadia at the last minute, apart from the hospitality suites. Didn’t go down well. Many fans stayed in Dubai for a week or two, and flew in to Qatar an hour away for the matches.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Utter woke nonsense
Have you ever heard of a good news story involving somebody pissed on an airplane?
It's always bad news stories like this.
I have no dog in this fight since I neither fly nor drink, but I'd understood that alcohol and flying (even as a passenger) are not a recommended combination.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Well you can fly Saudia then. No drinks in their lounges nor on their planes.
Haven't the Saudis got the World Cup next? ISTR one of them said you could enjoy football without alcohol. Wankers.
They've got 2034 (which will take place in Jan 2035)
2030 is Spain, Portugal, & Morocco plus a few South American countries with one off games.
Bloofy hell FIFA. Stop overcomplicating things. Criteria should be: - one country, or, at most two which are next to each other. - nowhere which is run by a madman. - nowhere which has recently invaded somewhere - nowhere which is funding terrorism. - nowhere where beer is frowned upon. - nowhere which necessitates the thing being played in winter.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, the drink driving issue isnt and it’s not a ban. You can drink and drive legally up to a limit.
It is not comparable either as when you go on a plane as a passenger you are not flying it or part of the cabin crew for whom the drink allowance is considerably lower than that for drivers
We always get these edge cases and tedious puritans using them to try to stop people from having a drink when the vast vast majority of flights and people who,have a drink pass off with no issue
I’ve just flown to and from Kos. Had a drink on the way out, didn’t on the way back as I was driving.
Plenty on the flight had a drink. Both ways. No issue at all.
I'll have a drink or two on an afternoon or evening flight.
What I won't do is start necking pints in the airport Spoons at 6am.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Utter woke nonsense
Have you ever heard of a good news story involving somebody pissed on an airplane?
It's always bad news stories like this.
I have no dog in this fight since I neither fly nor drink, but I'd understood that alcohol and flying (even as a passenger) are not a recommended combination.
The 6am pint in the airport Wetherspoons because you're off on holiday is one of life's richest pleasures.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Well you can fly Saudia then. No drinks in their lounges nor on their planes.
Haven't the Saudis got the World Cup next? ISTR one of them said you could enjoy football without alcohol. Wankers.
They've got 2034 (which will take place in Jan 2035)
2030 is Spain, Portugal, & Morocco plus a few South American countries with one off games.
Bloofy hell FIFA. Stop overcomplicating things. Criteria should be: - one country, or, at most two which are next to each other. - nowhere which is run by a madman. - nowhere which has recently invaded somewhere - nowhere which is funding terrorism. - nowhere where beer is frowned upon. - nowhere which necessitates the thing being played in winter.
Nowhere where two halves of 45 minutes plus stoppage each can't be played.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
They forgot about his cheeky smile that lights up the room.
Reading between the lines there, and yes, I am prejudging on a few things, so could be wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised to later learn he's from the "Traveller community".
Also probably the first time we’ve had a PM (or soon to be) and leader of the opposition who both look like they enjoy/relish the job rather than being pained by it since Blair-Cameron.
What about Boris-Corbyn?
Corbyn never looked as if he enjoyed the job. IIRC, he finds Parliamentary politics to be rather beneath him, compared to protest, direct action, standing for principles instead of policy. He couldn't cope with basic tasks like running meetings, holding people to deadlines, and generally not fucking around. Whether you like him or not, he simply wan't up to snuff per Attlee.
Corbyn's exemplary attendance and voting record in the HoC over the last 43 years does not suggest a chap who finds parliamentary politics beneath him. Quite the opposite, in fact.
Hardly an exemplary voting record from the perspective of the Labour whips!
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, the drink driving issue isnt and it’s not a ban. You can drink and drive legally up to a limit.
It is not comparable either as when you go on a plane as a passenger you are not flying it or part of the cabin crew for whom the drink allowance is considerably lower than that for drivers
We always get these edge cases and tedious puritans using them to try to stop people from having a drink when the vast vast majority of flights and people who,have a drink pass off with no issue
I’ve just flown to and from Kos. Had a drink on the way out, didn’t on the way back as I was driving.
Plenty on the flight had a drink. Both ways. No issue at all.
I'll have a drink or two on an afternoon or evening flight.
What I won't do is start necking pints in the airport Spoons at 6am.
I have done that, but stopped at two and had nothing further on the plane. Well, maybe a G&T.
For one thing, there isn't really time for me to drink that much liquid before I have to go to the departure gate. And, for another, I want my breakfast more.
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Well you can fly Saudia then. No drinks in their lounges nor on their planes.
Haven't the Saudis got the World Cup next? ISTR one of them said you could enjoy football without alcohol. Wankers.
They've got 2034 (which will take place in Jan 2035)
2030 is Spain, Portugal, & Morocco plus a few South American countries with one off games.
Bloofy hell FIFA. Stop overcomplicating things. Criteria should be: - one country, or, at most two which are next to each other. - nowhere which is run by a madman. - nowhere which has recently invaded somewhere - nowhere which is funding terrorism. - nowhere where beer is frowned upon. - nowhere which necessitates the thing being played in winter.
The other reason it should be held in one country or at least two next door is that climate conditions should be pretty much a level playing field for all the teams. This World Cup England could play a last 16 match at the Azteca with no air con so blistering heat and altitude then v Brazil in Miami, major humidity and open stadium and be totally drained if they then. Ade the semis whilst potential rivals are playing in Vancouver or Toronto etc so teams getting drawn to play at wildly different climatic conditions can be at a huge advantage or disadvantage. If all matches are in, for example Spain, then the variation won’t be anything like as different.
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
They forgot about his cheeky smile that lights up the room.
Reading between the lines there, and yes, I am prejudging on a few things, so could be wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised to later learn he's from the "Traveller community".
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Utter woke nonsense
Have you ever heard of a good news story involving somebody pissed on an airplane?
It's always bad news stories like this.
I have no dog in this fight since I neither fly nor drink, but I'd understood that alcohol and flying (even as a passenger) are not a recommended combination.
Pretty sure @IanB2 would have a dog on that flight, though.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, the drink driving issue isnt and it’s not a ban. You can drink and drive legally up to a limit.
It is not comparable either as when you go on a plane as a passenger you are not flying it or part of the cabin crew for whom the drink allowance is considerably lower than that for drivers
We always get these edge cases and tedious puritans using them to try to stop people from having a drink when the vast vast majority of flights and people who,have a drink pass off with no issue
I’ve just flown to and from Kos. Had a drink on the way out, didn’t on the way back as I was driving.
Plenty on the flight had a drink. Both ways. No issue at all.
I'll have a drink or two on an afternoon or evening flight.
What I won't do is start necking pints in the airport Spoons at 6am.
I have done that, but stopped at two and had nothing further on the plane. Well, maybe a G&T.
For one thing, there isn't really time for me to drink that much liquid before I have to go to the departure gate. And, for another, I want my breakfast more.
I've sat in a lounge having a drink at 4:30am but there were reasons for that given how organised we were and how utterly disorganised the people we were traveling with were.
Mrs Eek used to laugh at me checking my passport every time I moved from point 1 to point 2. She doesn't anymore after the other couple left it in the car and only discovered when asked at the bag check.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Well you can fly Saudia then. No drinks in their lounges nor on their planes.
Haven't the Saudis got the World Cup next? ISTR one of them said you could enjoy football without alcohol. Wankers.
They've got 2034 (which will take place in Jan 2035)
2030 is Spain, Portugal, & Morocco plus a few South American countries with one off games.
Bloofy hell FIFA. Stop overcomplicating things. Criteria should be: - one country, or, at most two which are next to each other. - nowhere which is run by a madman. - nowhere which has recently invaded somewhere - nowhere which is funding terrorism. - nowhere where beer is frowned upon. - nowhere which necessitates the thing being played in winter.
That sounds all fair and reasonable, but I think they prefer to ensure at least 50% of world cups must be awarded to blatantly corrupt countries.
The multiple country thing might help us host one, mind. We can submit a joint bid (England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and Ireland). We'd all have a great time and shares it out a bit as suspect we're the only one who could host the whole thing.
If that's too many teams getting a free pass to the tournament, we can cut out both Irelands because they're never any good.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
They forgot about his cheeky smile that lights up the room.
Reading between the lines there, and yes, I am prejudging on a few things, so could be wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised to later learn he's from the "Traveller community".
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
I think theatrical language, even when misspoken is missing from the state schoolboy quiver of arrows. I write as a state schoolboy. Posh boys on here do have a splendid turn of phrase. Scumbag filth, not so much.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Well you can fly Saudia then. No drinks in their lounges nor on their planes.
Haven't the Saudis got the World Cup next? ISTR one of them said you could enjoy football without alcohol. Wankers.
They've got 2034 (which will take place in Jan 2035)
2030 is Spain, Portugal, & Morocco plus a few South American countries with one off games.
Bloofy hell FIFA. Stop overcomplicating things. Criteria should be: - one country, or, at most two which are next to each other. - nowhere which is run by a madman. - nowhere which has recently invaded somewhere - nowhere which is funding terrorism. - nowhere where beer is frowned upon. - nowhere which necessitates the thing being played in winter.
The other reason it should be held in one country or at least two next door is that climate conditions should be pretty much a level playing field for all the teams. This World Cup England could play a last 16 match at the Azteca with no air con so blistering heat and altitude then v Brazil in Miami, major humidity and open stadium and be totally drained if they then. Ade the semis whilst potential rivals are playing in Vancouver or Toronto etc so teams getting drawn to play at wildly different climatic conditions can be at a huge advantage or disadvantage. If all matches are in, for example Spain, then the variation won’t be anything like as different.
I mean that's all well and good but I'm not sure the difference is much more than that between London and Newcastle this week.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
A few years ago a friend of mine was on a flight where a woman got pissed and tried to open the door mid flight, the blokes who were trying to restrain her didn't have decency to punch her, until another woman went up and punched her lights out.
People don’t understand that it’s physically impossible to open the plane’s door at altitude.
The pressure in the aircraft is 6-7psi, and the door needs to move inward to open. So if the door is 80” x 30” in size, you need 80x30x6 =14,400 lbs of pressure to move the door. That’s seven tonnes, you can’t do it.
Yes you’re still getting arrested though, and endangering aircraft can get you prison time.
As Ian Brown of the Stone Roses found out.
But his was down to mental health issues and being abused mentally as a child by a daytime tv weatherman,
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
They forgot about his cheeky smile that lights up the room.
Reading between the lines there, and yes, I am prejudging on a few things, so could be wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised to later learn he's from the "Traveller community".
"Bare knuckle fighter" rather gives it away.
I notice from the BBC article it’s a far less intimidating picture of him than the previous ones of him barechested looking like he’s looking for a fight.
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Well you can fly Saudia then. No drinks in their lounges nor on their planes.
Haven't the Saudis got the World Cup next? ISTR one of them said you could enjoy football without alcohol. Wankers.
They've got 2034 (which will take place in Jan 2035)
2030 is Spain, Portugal, & Morocco plus a few South American countries with one off games.
Bloofy hell FIFA. Stop overcomplicating things. Criteria should be: - one country, or, at most two which are next to each other. - nowhere which is run by a madman. - nowhere which has recently invaded somewhere - nowhere which is funding terrorism. - nowhere where beer is frowned upon. - nowhere which necessitates the thing being played in winter.
The other reason it should be held in one country or at least two next door is that climate conditions should be pretty much a level playing field for all the teams. This World Cup England could play a last 16 match at the Azteca with no air con so blistering heat and altitude then v Brazil in Miami, major humidity and open stadium and be totally drained if they then. Ade the semis whilst potential rivals are playing in Vancouver or Toronto etc so teams getting drawn to play at wildly different climatic conditions can be at a huge advantage or disadvantage. If all matches are in, for example Spain, then the variation won’t be anything like as different.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Utter woke nonsense
Have you ever heard of a good news story involving somebody pissed on an airplane?
It's always bad news stories like this.
It's also terrifying to be on a plane when one passenger kicks off like that, and it can ruins the plans and holidays of hundreds.
The airlines regularly talk about life bans for people who cause a plane to be turned around.
But apparently there are legal issues - especially with sharing such lists of banned people.
Only in the EU.
The latest trend is for airlines to hit you with a civil lawsuit for the cost of the diversion. It’s usually in the five figures and if you have no assets they’ll bankrupt your ass to make a point. They’re hoping that eventually people will get the hint.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Well you can fly Saudia then. No drinks in their lounges nor on their planes.
Haven't the Saudis got the World Cup next? ISTR one of them said you could enjoy football without alcohol. Wankers.
They've got 2034 (which will take place in Jan 2035)
2030 is Spain, Portugal, & Morocco plus a few South American countries with one off games.
Bloofy hell FIFA. Stop overcomplicating things. Criteria should be: - one country, or, at most two which are next to each other. - nowhere which is run by a madman. - nowhere which has recently invaded somewhere - nowhere which is funding terrorism. - nowhere where beer is frowned upon. - nowhere which necessitates the thing being played in winter.
I think the last one is a bit harsh, because you're eliminating countries because of the accident of geography.
Also, the beer one gives cover not to go to the Gulf.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Give them all ILR then those wiping arses won’t be doing it for long so they probably will need to open up the Visas again !
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
Drink-driving is inherently dangerous. Alcohol in the bloodstream reduces your reaction times massively, and people become more clumsy, etc.
Alcohol does not make everyone aggressive. For many people having a drink in the airport after getting through security is the perfect start to their holiday and it has no detrimental impact on anyone else. It's not remotely comparable to drink-driving.
I think there's a sensible middle ground of limiting alcohol sales. There was a criminal case in Ireland where someone sexually assaulted cabin crew after ~15 alcoholic drinks, and I think you could limit people to a couple of drinks in the airport and a couple on the plane, and it wouldn't ruin people's chance to enjoy themselves, but would probably cut out a lot of the worst problems.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, the drink driving issue isnt and it’s not a ban. You can drink and drive legally up to a limit.
It is not comparable either as when you go on a plane as a passenger you are not flying it or part of the cabin crew for whom the drink allowance is considerably lower than that for drivers
We always get these edge cases and tedious puritans using them to try to stop people from having a drink when the vast vast majority of flights and people who,have a drink pass off with no issue
I’ve just flown to and from Kos. Had a drink on the way out, didn’t on the way back as I was driving.
Plenty on the flight had a drink. Both ways. No issue at all.
I'll have a drink or two on an afternoon or evening flight.
What I won't do is start necking pints in the airport Spoons at 6am.
I have done that, but stopped at two and had nothing further on the plane. Well, maybe a G&T.
For one thing, there isn't really time for me to drink that much liquid before I have to go to the departure gate. And, for another, I want my breakfast more.
Needing to go for a pee when the seatbelt sign is on, and you know there are 100 other people also desperate to go, is something I try to avoid.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I see the odds on Miliband being the next CoE have come in this afternoon from 5+ to 2.58, and Streeting''s odds gone out.
Has there been any news, or even a rumour, that I have missed? Or inside info?
Oh God, please don't ruin my weekend
Don't you want a Chancellor with intellectual heft and a burning sense of mission?
That's why I don't want Ed Miliband.
"Has there been any news, or even a rumour, that I have missed? Or inside info?"
Newstatesman main piece on the March on London by The King discusses the CoE. Whilst making clear that no decision taken the tone felt a bit to me that it was likely to Ed M in the end partly because Burnham apparently feels he owes him for his support in the decision to take this on and run for Makerfield etc etc.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, it's because most drunk drivers are lucky enough to get home without passing a cyclist or a wayward child. 100% of them are unsafe, and the inhibition starts long before you feel the buzz.
I've been very drunk before (last night....) and never once punched someone. I don't think the comparison works at all.
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Give them all ILR then those wiping arses won’t be doing it for long so they probably will need to open up the Visas again !
I know things are tight, but could we just pay £16 an hour instead of £13 an hour and have no visas? See also prison guard visas. And TfL station assistants. And so on.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
Did Kemi misspeak this time? And did you erroneously think she had when you posted?
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
Overseas teaching as a ‘safe’ way to have a long term foreign adventure has been a thing for quite some time. The people I know who did it ended up in China and Japan and seemed to have a great time.
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Give them all ILR then those wiping arses won’t be doing it for long so they probably will need to open up the Visas again !
I know things are tight, but could we just pay £16 an hour instead of £13 an hour and have no visas?
Not only no visas but no economically inactive dependents and no rights to access benefits and other support.
You don’t even need to have paid NI to access pension credit either
The market solution is to increase demand, via higher wages, or increase supply via importing cheap labour to undercut the local market
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Give them all ILR then those wiping arses won’t be doing it for long so they probably will need to open up the Visas again !
I know things are tight, but could we just pay £16 an hour instead of £13 an hour and have no visas? See also prison guard visas. And TfL station assistants. And so on.
Well yes, of course.
And this is something I swing back on forth on. On the one hand, why do we want to be importing low skilled labour?
On the other, take Singapore, they have lots of low skilled immigration, because they've done a really good job of upskilling the locals. Isn't that a model we should be replicating?
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
A few years ago a friend of mine was on a flight where a woman got pissed and tried to open the door, the blokes who were trying to restrain her didn't have decency to punch her, until another woman went up and punched her lights out.
You just need airlines or airports to stop serving people beyond a certain point. Which can have quite a low bar.
The vast majority who have a couple of drinks cause no issues. Regulate to stop those who think the plane is a night club, rather than a few casual drinks.
Trust a poster called "Ratters"'to speak up for inebriation... 😏
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Well you can fly Saudia then. No drinks in their lounges nor on their planes.
Haven't the Saudis got the World Cup next? ISTR one of them said you could enjoy football without alcohol. Wankers.
They've got 2034 (which will take place in Jan & Feb 2035)
2030 is Spain, Portugal, & Morocco plus a few South American countries with one off games.
Edit Paraguay, Uruguay, and Argentina.
That is completely absurd. Spain, Portugal and Morocco are at least geographically in roughly the same place.
But random LatAm countries. That's just stupid, that is.
It’s to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the World Cup which was held in Uruguay.
Yup... nothing to do with ensuring that by doing it when it comes to 2034 the only Federations not to have hosted the previous 2 times are Asia and Oceania... and so the 2034 Saudi bid was unopposed. Nothing at all. Complete co-incidence.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
A few years ago a friend of mine was on a flight where a woman got pissed and tried to open the door mid flight, the blokes who were trying to restrain her didn't have decency to punch her, until another woman went up and punched her lights out.
People don’t understand that it’s physically impossible to open the plane’s door at altitude.
The pressure in the aircraft is 6-7psi, and the door needs to move inward to open. So if the door is 80” x 30” in size, you need 80x30x6 =14,400 lbs of pressure to move the door. That’s seven tonnes, you can’t do it.
Yes you’re still getting arrested though, and endangering aircraft can get you prison time.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Well you can fly Saudia then. No drinks in their lounges nor on their planes.
Haven't the Saudis got the World Cup next? ISTR one of them said you could enjoy football without alcohol. Wankers.
They've got 2034 (which will take place in Jan & Feb 2035)
2030 is Spain, Portugal, & Morocco plus a few South American countries with one off games.
Edit Paraguay, Uruguay, and Argentina.
That is completely absurd. Spain, Portugal and Morocco are at least geographically in roughly the same place.
But random LatAm countries. That's just stupid, that is.
It’s to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the World Cup which was held in Uruguay.
Which explains the match in Uruguay - but it doesn't explain the other 2 matches.
And I hope the 6 teams involved get a very long break between their initial match and their second one - that is not a pleasant flight at the best of times.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Well you can fly Saudia then. No drinks in their lounges nor on their planes.
Haven't the Saudis got the World Cup next? ISTR one of them said you could enjoy football without alcohol. Wankers.
They've got 2034 (which will take place in Jan & Feb 2035)
2030 is Spain, Portugal, & Morocco plus a few South American countries with one off games.
Edit Paraguay, Uruguay, and Argentina.
That is completely absurd. Spain, Portugal and Morocco are at least geographically in roughly the same place.
But random LatAm countries. That's just stupid, that is.
It’s to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the World Cup which was held in Uruguay.
Or, if you're more cyclical, it's so that no South American country would be eligible to host in 2034 (because of FIFA rules on not having consecutive tournaments in the same region) thereby cutting out the competition for Saudi Arabia's 2034 bid.
Shabana Mahmood has been on Team Burnham, and keeping her head down. Mike Tapp is an outrider for Keir Starmer and has opposed a change of PM
Could this be a moment tensions bubble over - will he be sacked or not
Team Starmer do seem to like playing stupid games.
Rosie Duffield MP @RosieDuffield1 · 33m Took me just 8 days to get rid of him, by mutual agreement, as my Comms Manager for doing TV interviews on GB News as a 'security advisor', rather than, you know, setting up media for the MP he worked for...But the Labour Party knew that.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
Did Kemi misspeak this time? And did you erroneously think she had when you posted?
It was a joke, but if we are no longer allowed to make jokes about Badenoch I can run with that.
I would argue I have been very balanced of late. Critical of Lowe, Farage, Starmer, Burnham and Badenoch. But if the site rules are now that we have to be nice to Kemi (even when she has been nasty) rules are rules.
Shabana Mahmood has been on Team Burnham, and keeping her head down. Mike Tapp is an outrider for Keir Starmer and has opposed a change of PM
Could this be a moment tensions bubble over - will he be sacked or not
On the other hand, hasn't Burnham supposedly said we should honour the 5 year ILR that these people came in on, and only apply a longer period to newer entrants.
In which case Tapp is in line with the incoming PM and Mahmood is not.
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Give them all ILR then those wiping arses won’t be doing it for long so they probably will need to open up the Visas again !
I know things are tight, but could we just pay £16 an hour instead of £13 an hour and have no visas? See also prison guard visas. And TfL station assistants. And so on.
Well yes, of course.
And this is something I swing back on forth on. On the one hand, why do we want to be importing low skilled labour?
On the other, take Singapore, they have lots of low skilled immigration, because they've done a really good job of upskilling the locals. Isn't that a model we should be replicating?
Yes. I'd rather educate Britons highly and import low skill labour to fill the gaps (or even automate them), than not educate Britons and import high-skill labour while Britons do the low-skill jobs.
But. Britain isn't doing a good job of educating Britons. And it seems to be importing high-skill and low-skill labour at the same time. That only makes sense if you have a policy to expand the population to 100 million as quickly as possible.
So, what is the policy? It seems that they're isn't one, and immigration is being used as a short-term fix to make up for policy failures elsewhere, and then creating other problems for policy to fail to fix in the future.
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Give them all ILR then those wiping arses won’t be doing it for long so they probably will need to open up the Visas again !
I know things are tight, but could we just pay £16 an hour instead of £13 an hour and have no visas? See also prison guard visas. And TfL station assistants. And so on.
Well yes, of course.
And this is something I swing back on forth on. On the one hand, why do we want to be importing low skilled labour?
On the other, take Singapore, they have lots of low skilled immigration, because they've done a really good job of upskilling the locals. Isn't that a model we should be replicating?
Investing in a decent education system that allows bright kids from council estates in the NE of England (or Glasgow) to become doctors is a heck of a lot harder than just importing them.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
Did Kemi misspeak this time? And did you erroneously think she had when you posted?
It was a joke, but if we are no longer allowed to make jokes about Badenoch I can run with that.
I would argue I have been very balanced of late. Critical of Lowe, Farage, Starmer, Burnham and Badenoch. But if the site rules are now that we have to be nice to Kemi (even when she has been nasty) rules are rules.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I also have bushy ones. But unlike you I find myself saying, "no it's ok, I'll do that myself when I get home" if the hairdresser asks that question. Not totally sure why I say that, but I always do.
Shabana Mahmood has been on Team Burnham, and keeping her head down. Mike Tapp is an outrider for Keir Starmer and has opposed a change of PM
Could this be a moment tensions bubble over - will he be sacked or not
On the other hand, hasn't Burnham supposedly said we should honour the 5 year ILR that these people came in on, and only apply a longer period to newer entrants.
In which case Tapp is in line with the incoming PM and Mahmood is not.
No Burnham has not said that directly he is rumoured to be sympathetic to the argument but that’s it. Nothing is concreter.
Does it matter what he says. He changes horse mid race all the time.
During the by election he certainly did not commit to it.
The extension of ILR by five years is about saving money for the treasury. It’s the right thing to do.
Added to which, the global population will peak soon. Eventually the country is going to have to either do without immigrants, or find itself in competition with other countries for immigrants, and so need to treat them better (making immigration a more expensive solution).
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I also have bushy ones. But unlike you I find myself saying, "no it's ok, I'll do that myself when I get home" if the hairdresser asks that question. Not totally sure why I say that, but I always do.
Just go over them with a beard trimmer at a long length. Means you don't end up looking like alien as with a barber, but also not unkempt.
I’m pleased to report that I’ve survived working the two hottest June days ever
I was well prepared with little bottles of water, half of them frozen overnight, so I had chilled water all day
I also got offered drinks more than fifty times each day. Some people had a cool box outside the door full of ice and drinks for posties and delivery drivers
Only one person offered me somewhere to wee!
The crazy people today were the roofers; I saw loads of them. It’s taking “fix the roof while the sun is shining” more than a bit too far
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Give them all ILR then those wiping arses won’t be doing it for long so they probably will need to open up the Visas again !
I know things are tight, but could we just pay £16 an hour instead of £13 an hour and have no visas? See also prison guard visas. And TfL station assistants. And so on.
Well yes, of course.
And this is something I swing back on forth on. On the one hand, why do we want to be importing low skilled labour?
On the other, take Singapore, they have lots of low skilled immigration, because they've done a really good job of upskilling the locals. Isn't that a model we should be replicating?
Yes. I'd rather educate Britons highly and import low skill labour to fill the gaps, than not educate Britons and import high-skill labour while Britons do the low-skill jobs.
But. Britain isn't doing a good job of educating Britons. And it seems to be importing high-skill and low-skill labour at the same time. That only makes sense if you have a policy to expand the population to 100 million as quickly as possible.
So, what is the policy? It seems that they're isn't one, and immigration is being used as a short-term fix to make up for policy failures elsewhere, and then creating other problems for policy to fail to fix in the future.
Except it isn't being used that way, hence the 80% drop in net migration, and likely to drop further in the next figures.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Well you can fly Saudia then. No drinks in their lounges nor on their planes.
Haven't the Saudis got the World Cup next? ISTR one of them said you could enjoy football without alcohol. Wankers.
They've got 2034 (which will take place in Jan & Feb 2035)
2030 is Spain, Portugal, & Morocco plus a few South American countries with one off games.
Edit Paraguay, Uruguay, and Argentina.
That is completely absurd. Spain, Portugal and Morocco are at least geographically in roughly the same place.
But random LatAm countries. That's just stupid, that is.
It’s to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the World Cup which was held in Uruguay.
Yup... nothing to do with ensuring that by doing it when it comes to 2034 the only Federations not to have hosted the previous 2 times are Asia and Oceania... and so the 2034 Saudi bid was unopposed. Nothing at all. Complete co-incidence.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Well you can fly Saudia then. No drinks in their lounges nor on their planes.
Haven't the Saudis got the World Cup next? ISTR one of them said you could enjoy football without alcohol. Wankers.
They've got 2034 (which will take place in Jan & Feb 2035)
2030 is Spain, Portugal, & Morocco plus a few South American countries with one off games.
Edit Paraguay, Uruguay, and Argentina.
That is completely absurd. Spain, Portugal and Morocco are at least geographically in roughly the same place.
But random LatAm countries. That's just stupid, that is.
It’s to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the World Cup which was held in Uruguay.
Yup... nothing to do with ensuring that by doing it when it comes to 2034 the only Federations not to have hosted the previous 2 times are Asia and Oceania... and so the 2034 Saudi bid was unopposed. Nothing at all. Complete co-incidence.
The commemoration games are in 2030...
Saudi has it all to itself in 2034..
FIFA has a rotation rule. North America (2026), Europe (2030), Africa (2030), South America (2030) couldn't bid. That left Asia and Oceania. Australia were given like a month's notice to decide whether to bid against Saudi.
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Give them all ILR then those wiping arses won’t be doing it for long so they probably will need to open up the Visas again !
I know things are tight, but could we just pay £16 an hour instead of £13 an hour and have no visas? See also prison guard visas. And TfL station assistants. And so on.
Well yes, of course.
And this is something I swing back on forth on. On the one hand, why do we want to be importing low skilled labour?
On the other, take Singapore, they have lots of low skilled immigration, because they've done a really good job of upskilling the locals. Isn't that a model we should be replicating?
Investing in a decent education system that allows bright kids from council estates in the NE of England (or Glasgow) to become doctors is a heck of a lot harder than just importing them.
At my Medical School we do have an active programme to recruit from such underserved places with our Access to Medicine course.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I also have bushy ones. But unlike you I find myself saying, "no it's ok, I'll do that myself when I get home" if the hairdresser asks that question. Not totally sure why I say that, but I always do.
No those bastards get culled every couple of months and I tip the fellow for doing so.
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Do you seriously advocate banning booze before a flight and on a flight simply due to an anecdotal episode ?
The pressure in the aircraft is 6-7psi, and the door needs to move inward to open. So if the door is 80” x 30” in size, you need 80x30x6 =14,400 lbs of pressure to move the door. That’s seven tonnes, you can’t do it.
Yes you’re still getting arrested though, and endangering aircraft can get you prison time.
2030 is Spain, Portugal, & Morocco plus a few South American countries with one off games.
Edit Paraguay, Uruguay, and Argentina.
In Qatar they banned alcohol from stadia at the last minute, apart from the hospitality suites. Didn’t go down well. Many fans stayed in Dubai for a week or two, and flew in to Qatar an hour away for the matches.
Has there been any news, or even a rumour, that I have missed? Or inside info?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/25/unison-endorses-ed-milband-chancellor-andy-burnham-government
- one country, or, at most two which are next to each other.
- nowhere which is run by a madman.
- nowhere which has recently invaded somewhere
- nowhere which is funding terrorism.
- nowhere where beer is frowned upon.
- nowhere which necessitates the thing being played in winter.
What I won't do is start necking pints in the airport Spoons at 6am.
For one thing, there isn't really time for me to drink that much liquid before I have to go to the departure gate. And, for another, I want my breakfast more.
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/shabana-mahmood-mike-tapp-immigration-minister-sacking-h6m0cb3tp
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFarSide/comments/1fngo0v/the_wingbaby_v2_was_even_more_impressive/
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
Mrs Eek used to laugh at me checking my passport every time I moved from point 1 to point 2. She doesn't anymore after the other couple left it in the car and only discovered when asked at the bag check.
The multiple country thing might help us host one, mind. We can submit a joint bid (England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and Ireland). We'd all have a great time and shares it out a bit as suspect we're the only one who could host the whole thing.
If that's too many teams getting a free pass to the tournament, we can cut out both Irelands because they're never any good.
https://www.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2025/12/20/ed-miliband-is-33-1-to-be-the-next-chancellor/
Funny old world, PB.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/24/progressive-economists-reject-unite-leader-sharon-graham-criticism-ed-miliband
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/25/unison-endorses-ed-milband-chancellor-andy-burnham-government
The Guardian are clearly in his camp.
But his was down to mental health issues and being abused mentally as a child by a daytime tv weatherman,
But apparently there are legal issues - especially with sharing such lists of banned people.
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Shabana Mahmood has been on Team Burnham, and keeping her head down. Mike Tapp is an outrider for Keir Starmer and has opposed a change of PM
Could this be a moment tensions bubble over - will he be sacked or not
But random LatAm countries. That's just stupid, that is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_(2012_film)
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
The latest trend is for airlines to hit you with a civil lawsuit for the cost of the diversion. It’s usually in the five figures and if you have no assets they’ll bankrupt your ass to make a point. They’re hoping that eventually people will get the hint.
Also, the beer one gives cover not to go to the Gulf.
Alcohol does not make everyone aggressive. For many people having a drink in the airport after getting through security is the perfect start to their holiday and it has no detrimental impact on anyone else. It's not remotely comparable to drink-driving.
I think there's a sensible middle ground of limiting alcohol sales. There was a criminal case in Ireland where someone sexually assaulted cabin crew after ~15 alcoholic drinks, and I think you could limit people to a couple of drinks in the airport and a couple on the plane, and it wouldn't ruin people's chance to enjoy themselves, but would probably cut out a lot of the worst problems.
Newstatesman main piece on the March on London by The King discusses the CoE. Whilst making clear that no decision taken the tone felt a bit to me that it was likely to Ed M in the end partly because Burnham apparently feels he owes him for his support in the decision to take this on and run for Makerfield etc etc.
I've been very drunk before (last night....) and never once punched someone. I don't think the comparison works at all.
Noa Hoffman
@hoffman_noa
EXCL: Dr Zubir Ahmed has been in talks with Andy Burnham’s team about the possibility of taking up the role of Health Secretary.
https://x.com/hoffman_noa/status/2070190699161719061
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Even his own household don't know who he is.
You don’t even need to have paid NI to access pension credit either
The market solution is to increase demand, via higher wages, or increase supply via importing cheap labour to undercut the local market
Boris chose the latter.
And this is something I swing back on forth on. On the one hand, why do we want to be importing low skilled labour?
On the other, take Singapore, they have lots of low skilled immigration, because they've done a really good job of upskilling the locals. Isn't that a model we should be replicating?
And I hope the 6 teams involved get a very long break between their initial match and their second one - that is not a pleasant flight at the best of times.
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Took me just 8 days to get rid of him, by mutual agreement, as my Comms Manager for doing TV interviews on GB News as a 'security advisor', rather than, you know, setting up media for the MP he worked for...But the Labour Party knew that.
https://x.com/RosieDuffield1/status/2070199970494312518
I would argue I have been very balanced of late. Critical of Lowe, Farage, Starmer, Burnham and Badenoch. But if the site rules are now that we have to be nice to Kemi (even when she has been nasty) rules are rules.
In which case Tapp is in line with the incoming PM and Mahmood is not.
But. Britain isn't doing a good job of educating Britons. And it seems to be importing high-skill and low-skill labour at the same time. That only makes sense if you have a policy to expand the population to 100 million as quickly as possible.
So, what is the policy? It seems that they're isn't one, and immigration is being used as a short-term fix to make up for policy failures elsewhere, and then creating other problems for policy to fail to fix in the future.
Does it matter what he says. He changes horse mid race all the time.
During the by election he certainly did not commit to it.
The extension of ILR by five years is about saving money for the treasury. It’s the right thing to do.
I was well prepared with little bottles of water, half of them frozen overnight, so I had chilled water all day
I also got offered drinks more than fifty times each day. Some people had a cool box outside the door full of ice and drinks for posties and delivery drivers
Only one person offered me somewhere to wee!
The crazy people today were the roofers; I saw loads of them. It’s taking “fix the roof while the sun is shining” more than a bit too far
Saudi has it all to itself in 2034..
https://le.ac.uk/study/schools-and-colleges/post-16/progression-programmes/access-leicester