Still, 22 hours without being able to lie down would be pretty awful, but if it reduces the end-to-end travel time by eliminating a stopover it might be better overall.
Still, 22 hours without being able to lie down would be pretty awful, but if it reduces the end-to-end travel time by eliminating a stopover it might be better overall.
When I was hoping to and fro to NZ I used to do it in one go with 3-6 h in Singapore (usually). So about 22 h in economy with a decent break (shower, walk around etc). I usually tried to sleep as much as possible, especially on the second leg as you usually arrived in the morning.
Still, 22 hours without being able to lie down would be pretty awful, but if it reduces the end-to-end travel time by eliminating a stopover it might be better overall.
When I was hoping to and fro to NZ I used to do it in one go with 3-6 h in Singapore (usually). So about 22 h in economy with a decent break (shower, walk around etc). I usually tried to sleep as much as possible, especially on the second leg as you usually arrived in the morning.
I wouldn’t see an issue with non-stop.
I've done ~20-24 hours in a coach a few times (no idea what the seat pitch in those was) and I found it a real slog, because I wasn't able to sleep sitting mostly upright. And that had the benefit of occasional stops where you could get out and wander around.
My wife pointed out that the 22-hour flight time is almost exactly the same as the new 21.5 hour ferry service from Cork to Boulogne, which would be a rather different experience (with the potential additional excitement of a run-in with the Russian navy). But then you're in Boulogne and not Sydney.
Did you ever wake up, kiss the person sleeping beside you and feel glad you're alive?
I did.
Can’t fly with QANTAS any more though.
This morning actually.
Lucky you.
I absolutely got bodied my eldest son recently.
He's doing his exams and we were talking about his future, and I told him his grandparents might want him to have an arranged marriage, my son's response was
'I might go for that, they've been married for over 50 years, you've not had a relationship that's lasted more than 5 years.'
I don't think Big_G or Old King C have arranged marriages ? They seem to have done OK.
Did you ever wake up, kiss the person sleeping beside you and feel glad you're alive?
I did.
Can’t fly with QANTAS any more though.
This morning actually.
Lucky you.
I absolutely got bodied my eldest son recently.
He's doing his exams and we were talking about his future, and I told him his grandparents might want him to have an arranged marriage, my son's response was
'I might go for that, they've been married for over 50 years, you've not had a relationship that's lasted more than 5 years.'
I don't think Big_G or Old King C have arranged marriages ? They seem to have done OK.
(37 yrs and counting, myself.)
My wife [of nearly twelve years] told me earlier today that she's too tired to be able to complete the divorce paperwork. I think she intended for me to find that reassuring (!)
"The Plaid Cymru-led Welsh Government has failed to back the UK’s membership of Nato.
Elin Jones, the country’s finance minister, declined to say whether the minority Welsh Government supported the military alliance when asked to do so by Jo Stevens, the Welsh Secretary.
Labour has accused Plaid of being “completely irresponsible” by failing to set out its position on Nato at a time of significant geopolitical instability."
You have to wonder about turnout. Will people be arsed?
Why wouldn't you. It's the most consequential thing to happen in Makerfield in my lifetime. Although the Grateful Dead at the Bickershaw Festival comes close.
Carville theory is he wont be able to cope with the midterm consequences plus health issues and will do a deal with Vance for a pardon of Trump and all family and associates. Otherwise he is relying on self-pardon.
Still, 22 hours without being able to lie down would be pretty awful, but if it reduces the end-to-end travel time by eliminating a stopover it might be better overall.
When I was hoping to and fro to NZ I used to do it in one go with 3-6 h in Singapore (usually). So about 22 h in economy with a decent break (shower, walk around etc). I usually tried to sleep as much as possible, especially on the second leg as you usually arrived in the morning.
I wouldn’t see an issue with non-stop.
I've done ~20-24 hours in a coach a few times (no idea what the seat pitch in those was) and I found it a real slog, because I wasn't able to sleep sitting mostly upright. And that had the benefit of occasional stops where you could get out and wander around.
My wife pointed out that the 22-hour flight time is almost exactly the same as the new 21.5 hour ferry service from Cork to Boulogne, which would be a rather different experience (with the potential additional excitement of a run-in with the Russian navy). But then you're in Boulogne and not Sydney.
Brave. The longest coach I've done was London to Paris and that was bad enough. £4 though...
Still, 22 hours without being able to lie down would be pretty awful, but if it reduces the end-to-end travel time by eliminating a stopover it might be better overall.
When I was hoping to and fro to NZ I used to do it in one go with 3-6 h in Singapore (usually). So about 22 h in economy with a decent break (shower, walk around etc). I usually tried to sleep as much as possible, especially on the second leg as you usually arrived in the morning.
I wouldn’t see an issue with non-stop.
I've done ~20-24 hours in a coach a few times (no idea what the seat pitch in those was) and I found it a real slog, because I wasn't able to sleep sitting mostly upright. And that had the benefit of occasional stops where you could get out and wander around.
My wife pointed out that the 22-hour flight time is almost exactly the same as the new 21.5 hour ferry service from Cork to Boulogne, which would be a rather different experience (with the potential additional excitement of a run-in with the Russian navy). But then you're in Boulogne and not Sydney.
I did the Caledonian Express last year. Boarded London 10:30pm, arrived Edinburgh 7:30am, detrained 8am. I may have mentioned it.
Still, 22 hours without being able to lie down would be pretty awful, but if it reduces the end-to-end travel time by eliminating a stopover it might be better overall.
When I was hoping to and fro to NZ I used to do it in one go with 3-6 h in Singapore (usually). So about 22 h in economy with a decent break (shower, walk around etc). I usually tried to sleep as much as possible, especially on the second leg as you usually arrived in the morning.
I wouldn’t see an issue with non-stop.
I've done ~20-24 hours in a coach a few times (no idea what the seat pitch in those was) and I found it a real slog, because I wasn't able to sleep sitting mostly upright. And that had the benefit of occasional stops where you could get out and wander around.
My wife pointed out that the 22-hour flight time is almost exactly the same as the new 21.5 hour ferry service from Cork to Boulogne, which would be a rather different experience (with the potential additional excitement of a run-in with the Russian navy). But then you're in Boulogne and not Sydney.
I did the Caledonian Express last year. Boarded London 10:30pm, arrived Edinburgh 7:30am, detrained 8am. I may have mentioned it.
"Point 6: Money for Iran reconstruction The sixth point of the MoU says the US and regional partners will develop a "definitive, mutually agreed plan" worth at least $300bn (£224bn) for reconstruction and economic development in Iran. The final mechanism will be agreed within 60 days of the final deal, and all licences, waivers and permissions will be granted by the US. However, this does not mean the US will be financially involved. One official noted that the US is not required to pay "a cent of money" to Iran, or contribute to the fund. As a hypothetical example, the official said that if Iran "behaves", Emirati authorities could build a power plant in Iran, with US blessing. Trump and other officials have gone to great lengths to make clear to the US public that it will not be paying Iran directly, which the administration says stands in stark contrast to the 2015 nuclear agreement between Iran and the Obama administration."
So the stuff about Trump paying billions to Iran was guff?
@mikeysmith Incredible coincidence that @nigel_Farage watched the England game in the same spot in the same pub, with the same flags up, wearing the same top and standing next to someone wearing an identical top as he did during the Euros in 2024.
Still, 22 hours without being able to lie down would be pretty awful, but if it reduces the end-to-end travel time by eliminating a stopover it might be better overall.
When I was hoping to and fro to NZ I used to do it in one go with 3-6 h in Singapore (usually). So about 22 h in economy with a decent break (shower, walk around etc). I usually tried to sleep as much as possible, especially on the second leg as you usually arrived in the morning.
I wouldn’t see an issue with non-stop.
I've done ~20-24 hours in a coach a few times (no idea what the seat pitch in those was) and I found it a real slog, because I wasn't able to sleep sitting mostly upright. And that had the benefit of occasional stops where you could get out and wander around.
My wife pointed out that the 22-hour flight time is almost exactly the same as the new 21.5 hour ferry service from Cork to Boulogne, which would be a rather different experience (with the potential additional excitement of a run-in with the Russian navy). But then you're in Boulogne and not Sydney.
I did the Caledonian Express last year. Boarded London 10:30pm, arrived Edinburgh 7:30am, detrained 8am. I may have mentioned it.
Still, 22 hours without being able to lie down would be pretty awful, but if it reduces the end-to-end travel time by eliminating a stopover it might be better overall.
When I was hoping to and fro to NZ I used to do it in one go with 3-6 h in Singapore (usually). So about 22 h in economy with a decent break (shower, walk around etc). I usually tried to sleep as much as possible, especially on the second leg as you usually arrived in the morning.
I wouldn’t see an issue with non-stop.
I've done ~20-24 hours in a coach a few times (no idea what the seat pitch in those was) and I found it a real slog, because I wasn't able to sleep sitting mostly upright. And that had the benefit of occasional stops where you could get out and wander around.
My wife pointed out that the 22-hour flight time is almost exactly the same as the new 21.5 hour ferry service from Cork to Boulogne, which would be a rather different experience (with the potential additional excitement of a run-in with the Russian navy). But then you're in Boulogne and not Sydney.
They're both nice places. Slight edge to Sydney I guess. Except in football where USC Boulogne would thrash any of the Sydney clubs.
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And not one yellow card the whole match?
3 points are a great start. Croatia faded fast, that pressing game was unsustainable, and England kept the energy.
I hope whoever is making Dr Who next has the same idea. Maybe Captain Jack in the shower?
Aberdeen South -> Con gain from SNP
Arbroath & Broughton Ferry -> SNP hold (with strong Ref UK performance)
Makerfield -> very narrow Lab hold
Aberdeen South, Arbroath and Broughton Ferry both SNP holds against very split opposition.
I'm guessing they don't want a dozen blood clot deaths in the first six months to scare people off.
This Airbus webpage says there will be a "wellbeing zone" where passengers can stretch. https://www.airbus.com/en/newsroom/stories/2026-06-countdown-to-the-worlds-longest-commercial-flights-the-airbus-a350-1000ulr
Still, 22 hours without being able to lie down would be pretty awful, but if it reduces the end-to-end travel time by eliminating a stopover it might be better overall.
I wouldn’t see an issue with non-stop.
Me.
My wife pointed out that the 22-hour flight time is almost exactly the same as the new 21.5 hour ferry service from Cork to Boulogne, which would be a rather different experience (with the potential additional excitement of a run-in with the Russian navy). But then you're in Boulogne and not Sydney.
They seem to have done OK.
(37 yrs and counting, myself.)
They seemed to have drifted to 3.7
Elin Jones, the country’s finance minister, declined to say whether the minority Welsh Government supported the military alliance when asked to do so by Jo Stevens, the Welsh Secretary.
Labour has accused Plaid of being “completely irresponsible” by failing to set out its position on Nato at a time of significant geopolitical instability."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/06/17/plaid-cymru-fails-to-back-britains-nato-membership
Although the Grateful Dead at the Bickershaw Festival comes close.
4 to 5am result expected.
"The son of a bitch is just gonna walk away"
https://x.com/MarcoFoster_/status/2067353082350932260
Carville theory is he wont be able to cope with the midterm consequences plus health issues and will do a deal with Vance for a pardon of Trump and all family and associates. Otherwise he is relying on self-pardon.
Aaron Rupar
@atrupar
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Trump: "It's signed. I signed it in Versailles. I just signed it."
But, so like the French to edge in on the glory.
The sixth point of the MoU says the US and regional partners will develop a "definitive, mutually agreed plan" worth at least $300bn (£224bn) for reconstruction and economic development in Iran.
The final mechanism will be agreed within 60 days of the final deal, and all licences, waivers and permissions will be granted by the US.
However, this does not mean the US will be financially involved.
One official noted that the US is not required to pay "a cent of money" to Iran, or contribute to the fund.
As a hypothetical example, the official said that if Iran "behaves", Emirati authorities could build a power plant in Iran, with US blessing.
Trump and other officials have gone to great lengths to make clear to the US public that it will not be paying Iran directly, which the administration says stands in stark contrast to the 2015 nuclear agreement between Iran and the Obama administration."
So the stuff about Trump paying billions to Iran was guff?
Mikey Smith
@mikeysmith
Incredible coincidence that @nigel_Farage
watched the England game in the same spot in the same pub, with the same flags up, wearing the same top and standing next to someone wearing an identical top as he did during the Euros in 2024.
https://x.com/mikeysmith/status/2067377452331004179