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  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 10,134

    It's a coronation then.

    Coronation? Chickens!
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,561
    edited May 20



    Barak Ravid
    @BarakRavid
    Translated from Hebrew

    🚨Trump told Netanyahu that the mediators are working on a "letter of intent" that both the US and Iran will sign to officially end the war and launch a 30-day period of negotiations on issues such as Iran's nuclear program and the opening of the Strait of Hormuz, according to an American source briefed on the conversation.

    https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/2057184594147905709

    Haven't they already had a 30 day ceasefire to negotiate a brilliant deal?
    Which seemed to go Surrender! No. You surrender. No. You surrender.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,791
    Southampton have lost their appeal.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,791
    Play off final: Boro v Hull, 3.30 on Saturday

    4 point penalty remains in place.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,566

    Southampton have lost their appeal.

    Huzzah.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,576

    Ed M is 14.

    Got to be value.

    If the plumber with Facebook friends bloke beats Andy B then it surely will be Miliband?

    Cameron 331 seats
    Miliband 232 Seats

    :innocent:
    That Exit Poll in 2015 was better than sex.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,576
    Andy_JS said:

    ON topic, after a dreary couple of weeks, it looks like all of western Europe (except northern England and Scotland) is about to get a SPECTACULAR heatwave

    Could see a lot of records broken, for May

    It's bloody freezing at the moment so it could be a bit weird to go that high so suddenly.
    That's where we're at.

    Weird is the new normal.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,566

    Ed M is 14.

    Got to be value.

    If the plumber with Facebook friends bloke beats Andy B then it surely will be Miliband?

    Cameron 331 seats
    Miliband 232 Seats

    :innocent:
    That Exit Poll in 2015 was better than sex.
    Up there with season 3 of Picard.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 2,192

    DavidL said:

    2 absolutely sensational goals by Aston Villa against Freiberg. Seriously, watch the highlights at half time. Outstanding.

    Another huge cheer has just erupted from the pub down the road, so I'm guessing that's another one.
    Must be a lie

    Villa fans can't cheer.

    They just make high pitched veeeellllaaaa screams

    Like a girls hockey match
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 103,799
    edited May 20
    Andy_JS said:

    Goodness me.

    "GB Politics
    @GBPolitcs

    🚨NEW: Betting activity on the Makerfield by-election since markets opened shows the following shares:

    - Restore Britain: 51%
    - Labour: 23%
    - Reform: 23%
    - Green: 2%
    - Conservatives: 1%"

    https://x.com/GBPolitcs/status/2056772642586107973

    A party almost no one has heard of outside Twitter and Great Yarmouth will win? I cannot see it. Betting is small and bettors know little.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 103,799



    Barak Ravid
    @BarakRavid
    Translated from Hebrew

    🚨Trump told Netanyahu that the mediators are working on a "letter of intent" that both the US and Iran will sign to officially end the war and launch a 30-day period of negotiations on issues such as Iran's nuclear program and the opening of the Strait of Hormuz, according to an American source briefed on the conversation.

    https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/2057184594147905709

    Agreement to seek agreement, it gets him off the hook with the 10% of GOP nervous about the war.
  • Ed M is 14.

    Got to be value.

    If the plumber with Facebook friends bloke beats Andy B then it surely will be Miliband?

    Cameron 331 seats
    Miliband 232 Seats

    :innocent:
    That Exit Poll in 2015 was better than sex.
    Sad.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,190

    Ed M is 14.

    Got to be value.

    If the plumber with Facebook friends bloke beats Andy B then it surely will be Miliband?

    Cameron 331 seats
    Miliband 232 Seats

    :innocent:
    That Exit Poll in 2015 was better than sex.
    That came just after I’d watched Swindon 5 -5 Sheffield Utd in the play offs. And then straight into that night! Epic.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,190

    Ed M is 14.

    Got to be value.

    If the plumber with Facebook friends bloke beats Andy B then it surely will be Miliband?

    Cameron 331 seats
    Miliband 232 Seats

    :innocent:
    That Exit Poll in 2015 was better than sex.
    Sad.
    Depends on your point of view. Would not be a Lib Dem’s fav night either.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,381
    kle4 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Goodness me.

    "GB Politics
    @GBPolitcs

    🚨NEW: Betting activity on the Makerfield by-election since markets opened shows the following shares:

    - Restore Britain: 51%
    - Labour: 23%
    - Reform: 23%
    - Green: 2%
    - Conservatives: 1%"

    https://x.com/GBPolitcs/status/2056772642586107973

    A party almost no one has heard of outside Twitter and Great Yarmouth will win? I cannot see it. Betting is small and bettors know little.
    But they can follow the Trump playbook - and claim the by-election was stolen...
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 5,444
    kle4 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Goodness me.

    "GB Politics
    @GBPolitcs

    🚨NEW: Betting activity on the Makerfield by-election since markets opened shows the following shares:

    - Restore Britain: 51%
    - Labour: 23%
    - Reform: 23%
    - Green: 2%
    - Conservatives: 1%"

    https://x.com/GBPolitcs/status/2056772642586107973

    A party almost no one has heard of outside Twitter and Great Yarmouth will win? I cannot see it. Betting is small and bettors know little.
    People betting with their hearts, maybe first time betting on politics.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,860

    Southampton have lost their appeal.

    The innocent victims are Wrexham.

    They coulda (shoulda) been a contender.

    Justice delayed is justice denied.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 58,888

    DavidL said:

    2 absolutely sensational goals by Aston Villa against Freiberg. Seriously, watch the highlights at half time. Outstanding.

    Another huge cheer has just erupted from the pub down the road, so I'm guessing that's another one.
    Villa have been absolutely outstanding. Their passing, often one touch, has been superb. They really could and should have had more. If they played like this all the time they would be Champions.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,190

    Southampton have lost their appeal.

    The innocent victims are Wrexham.

    They coulda (shoulda) been a contender.

    Justice delayed is justice denied.
    I know I bang on about Swindon in 1990 but there are parallels. After Swindon whopped Sunderland in the final (most one sided 1-0 I’ve ever seen) they were relegated again by the FA. Sunderland were promoted in their place. But why Sunderland and not Blackburn, who Swindon beat in the semis? It was a stupid situation and it’s happening again.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,196
    kle4 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Goodness me.

    "GB Politics
    @GBPolitcs

    🚨NEW: Betting activity on the Makerfield by-election since markets opened shows the following shares:

    - Restore Britain: 51%
    - Labour: 23%
    - Reform: 23%
    - Green: 2%
    - Conservatives: 1%"

    https://x.com/GBPolitcs/status/2056772642586107973

    A party almost no one has heard of outside Twitter and Great Yarmouth will win? I cannot see it. Betting is small and bettors know little.
    My assumption is that these aren't normal bettors. They're either online Restore supporters high on their own supply, or it's someone with enough money to throw it away to create a newspaper story about a surge in support for Restore by forcing the odds short.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,381

    Talarico is +4 vs Paxton in Texas says CNN.

    There was earlier polling that a significant slice of the Cornyn vote would either not vote for Paxton - or lend their vote to Talarico.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,523

    kinabalu said:

    Good grief

    "PA: A retrial jury has been discharged at Liverpool Crown Court after it failed to reach verdicts over allegations that Mohammed Fahir Amaaz, 21, and Muhammad Amaad, 26, assaulted a police officer at Manchester Airport."

    They broke her nose, on video, with a brutal punch

    https://x.com/GuidoFawkes/status/2057126451208503750?s=20

    Well you are one of those frothing about the proposal to limit jury trials as being a sickening and shameful assault on the Magna Carta.

    Rough with the smooth.
    Have I said we must abandon jury trials? No. I have expressed surprise and dismay at this jury being unable to convict on very obvious evidence

    That said, I do have grave concerns that jury trials will not be feasible in the future, as the Ulsterisation of the country continues, and we head towards civil strife (almost inevitable, unless Reform wins in 2029). Blacks will not convict blacks (we already see this), Muslims will not convict Muslims, and eventually - soon, I suspect - whites will not convict whites. In the end you have to abandon jury trials, as they did in Ulster
    Diplock courts were only used for certain offences.

    Even at the height of the troubles.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 103,799

    Talarico is +4 vs Paxton in Texas says CNN.

    There was earlier polling that a significant slice of the Cornyn vote would either not vote for Paxton - or lend their vote to Talarico.
    Fingers crossed. A man who was too terrible even for the Texas House of Representatives to stomach is surely a dangerous individual.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,860
    Andy_JS said:

    Goodness me.

    "GB Politics
    @GBPolitcs

    🚨NEW: Betting activity on the Makerfield by-election since markets opened shows the following shares:

    - Restore Britain: 51%
    - Labour: 23%
    - Reform: 23%
    - Green: 2%
    - Conservatives: 1%"

    https://x.com/GBPolitcs/status/2056772642586107973

    What do those numbers even mean?

    Share, probability of winning, cash weight of bets, number of bets? I think it might be the last, which is the least interesting.

    It's almost certainly meaningless bibble, in which case who is GBPolitics and why have they released this?

    (It's not Cllr Bailey Nash-Gardner's outfit, that's Politics UK.)
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,011
    Selebian said:

    It's a coronation then.

    Coronation? Chickens!
    Coronation! Streeting decides.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,448

    Play off final: Boro v Hull, 3.30 on Saturday

    4 point penalty remains in place.

    An all-Yorkshire encounter.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,011

    Andy_JS said:

    Goodness me.

    "GB Politics
    @GBPolitcs

    🚨NEW: Betting activity on the Makerfield by-election since markets opened shows the following shares:

    - Restore Britain: 51%
    - Labour: 23%
    - Reform: 23%
    - Green: 2%
    - Conservatives: 1%"

    https://x.com/GBPolitcs/status/2056772642586107973

    What do those numbers even mean?

    Share, probability of winning, cash weight of bets, number of bets? I think it might be the last, which is the least interesting.

    It's almost certainly meaningless bibble, in which case who is GBPolitics and why have they released this?

    (It's not Cllr Bailey Nash-Gardner's outfit, that's Politics UK.)
    I assumed GB News are resolutely pro Reform but maybe I'm wrong because this kind of release can only damage Reform's chances in the by-election.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 13,446

    On the upside, I approve of Andy Messiah backing Mahmood. We need 4-5m people to leave the country, in the next few years

    This is the crucial first step, reversing the Boriswave

    Nice one, Andy. I may end up liking him

    I’m sure you said that about that nice mr Starmer as well
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,196
    I don't remember hearing of a case like this before, of someone escaping trial on the basis of poor mental health.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2026/0520/1574342-eleanor-donaldson/

    A judge has ruled that the wife of former DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson is unfit to face a criminal trial on sexual offences charges due to the state of her mental health.

    Eleanor Donaldson, aged 60, will now face what is called a "trial of facts" rather than a normal trial.

    That means a jury cannot find her guilty but will be asked to determine whether she committed the offences she is charged with.
    ...
    Dr Christine Kennedy told the court that Ms Donaldson was found to be "severely depressed", suicidal and suffering with "high levels of anxiety".

    She said that on the balance of probabilities Ms Donaldson would not be able to instruct her legal team, could not follow the trial proceedings and would not be able to give evidence.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 13,446
    IanB2 said:

    I don't really see what Steeting gains from this. Far better to be the main rival, fight a clean fight, and earn a cabinet role as the standard bearer of the right. It's not like Burnham will ever trust him anyway.

    Anyway, I see Kemi absolutely demolished Sir Russian Sympathiser on his anti-Aberdeen pro Rosneft oil and gas policy, and helped her party in the Aberdeen South by-election by so doing.

    Because if he gets pummelled into the ground which he might be (“need to show unity boys”) then he loses all credibility and leverage
    Cf. One Liz Kendall 4%
    Although she didn’t have much credibility and leverage to start with…
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,230

    I don't remember hearing of a case like this before, of someone escaping trial on the basis of poor mental health.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2026/0520/1574342-eleanor-donaldson/

    A judge has ruled that the wife of former DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson is unfit to face a criminal trial on sexual offences charges due to the state of her mental health.

    Eleanor Donaldson, aged 60, will now face what is called a "trial of facts" rather than a normal trial.

    That means a jury cannot find her guilty but will be asked to determine whether she committed the offences she is charged with.
    ...
    Dr Christine Kennedy told the court that Ms Donaldson was found to be "severely depressed", suicidal and suffering with "high levels of anxiety".

    She said that on the balance of probabilities Ms Donaldson would not be able to instruct her legal team, could not follow the trial proceedings and would not be able to give evidence.

    Genius plan. Commit a crime so dastardly that being caught puts you into a spiral of anxiety...
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,196
    edited May 20

    Andy_JS said:

    Goodness me.

    "GB Politics
    @GBPolitcs

    🚨NEW: Betting activity on the Makerfield by-election since markets opened shows the following shares:

    - Restore Britain: 51%
    - Labour: 23%
    - Reform: 23%
    - Green: 2%
    - Conservatives: 1%"

    https://x.com/GBPolitcs/status/2056772642586107973

    What do those numbers even mean?

    Share, probability of winning, cash weight of bets, number of bets? I think it might be the last, which is the least interesting.

    It's almost certainly meaningless bibble, in which case who is GBPolitics and why have they released this?

    (It's not Cllr Bailey Nash-Gardner's outfit, that's Politics UK.)
    I think GB politics is the teenager who seems to have a source telling him about Tory defections to Reform before they happen.

    Edit: I ate that the numbers are pretty meaningless, but it's an essential skill of journalism to make a story out of nothing.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,134

    I don't remember hearing of a case like this before, of someone escaping trial on the basis of poor mental health.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2026/0520/1574342-eleanor-donaldson/

    A judge has ruled that the wife of former DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson is unfit to face a criminal trial on sexual offences charges due to the state of her mental health.

    Eleanor Donaldson, aged 60, will now face what is called a "trial of facts" rather than a normal trial.

    That means a jury cannot find her guilty but will be asked to determine whether she committed the offences she is charged with.
    ...
    Dr Christine Kennedy told the court that Ms Donaldson was found to be "severely depressed", suicidal and suffering with "high levels of anxiety".

    She said that on the balance of probabilities Ms Donaldson would not be able to instruct her legal team, could not follow the trial proceedings and would not be able to give evidence.

    The prospect of a long custodial sentence can do that to you
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 13,446

    Ed M is 14.

    Got to be value.

    If the plumber with Facebook friends bloke beats Andy B then it surely will be Miliband?

    Cameron 331 seats
    Miliband 232 Seats

    :innocent:
    That Exit Poll in 2015 was better than sex.
    You’re doing something wrong, mate
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,196
    Dopermean said:

    I don't remember hearing of a case like this before, of someone escaping trial on the basis of poor mental health.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2026/0520/1574342-eleanor-donaldson/

    A judge has ruled that the wife of former DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson is unfit to face a criminal trial on sexual offences charges due to the state of her mental health.

    Eleanor Donaldson, aged 60, will now face what is called a "trial of facts" rather than a normal trial.

    That means a jury cannot find her guilty but will be asked to determine whether she committed the offences she is charged with.
    ...
    Dr Christine Kennedy told the court that Ms Donaldson was found to be "severely depressed", suicidal and suffering with "high levels of anxiety".

    She said that on the balance of probabilities Ms Donaldson would not be able to instruct her legal team, could not follow the trial proceedings and would not be able to give evidence.

    The prospect of a long custodial sentence can do that to you
    That was my thought. It must be pretty normal to feel anxious and depressed when facing such charges (particularly when you read between the lines in this particular case).

    It seems astonishing that it should give you an out from having to face trial and the potential for conviction.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,134

    Andy_JS said:

    Goodness me.

    "GB Politics
    @GBPolitcs

    🚨NEW: Betting activity on the Makerfield by-election since markets opened shows the following shares:

    - Restore Britain: 51%
    - Labour: 23%
    - Reform: 23%
    - Green: 2%
    - Conservatives: 1%"

    https://x.com/GBPolitcs/status/2056772642586107973

    What do those numbers even mean?

    Share, probability of winning, cash weight of bets, number of bets? I think it might be the last, which is the least interesting.

    It's almost certainly meaningless bibble, in which case who is GBPolitics and why have they released this?

    (It's not Cllr Bailey Nash-Gardner's outfit, that's Politics UK.)
    I assumed GB News are resolutely pro Reform but maybe I'm wrong because this kind of release can only damage Reform's chances in the by-election.
    It's ramping Restore isn't it.
    You can lay at 16, so Rupert's backers are paying 6% in 3 weeks but volume is tiny.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,322
    What if Jeffrey Donaldson came out with the same reasons . Would he be allowed to just get off ?

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,566

    I don't remember hearing of a case like this before, of someone escaping trial on the basis of poor mental health.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2026/0520/1574342-eleanor-donaldson/

    A judge has ruled that the wife of former DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson is unfit to face a criminal trial on sexual offences charges due to the state of her mental health.

    Eleanor Donaldson, aged 60, will now face what is called a "trial of facts" rather than a normal trial.

    That means a jury cannot find her guilty but will be asked to determine whether she committed the offences she is charged with.
    ...
    Dr Christine Kennedy told the court that Ms Donaldson was found to be "severely depressed", suicidal and suffering with "high levels of anxiety".

    She said that on the balance of probabilities Ms Donaldson would not be able to instruct her legal team, could not follow the trial proceedings and would not be able to give evidence.

    Happens regularly, happened in 2012 with a former MP.

    Margaret Moran, the former Labour MP, has been ruled "unfit to plead" to charges of falsely claiming £80,000 in expenses and will not face trial.

    The 56-year-old is suffering from severe depressive mental illness and extreme anxiety and agitation due to the stress of legal proceedings and issues in her childhood, a court was told.

    She also suffered feelings of abandonment by the Labour party, and intense shame that her parliamentary career was over.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/apr/27/margaret-moran-not-fit-trial
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 103,799

    I don't remember hearing of a case like this before, of someone escaping trial on the basis of poor mental health.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2026/0520/1574342-eleanor-donaldson/

    A judge has ruled that the wife of former DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson is unfit to face a criminal trial on sexual offences charges due to the state of her mental health.

    Eleanor Donaldson, aged 60, will now face what is called a "trial of facts" rather than a normal trial.

    That means a jury cannot find her guilty but will be asked to determine whether she committed the offences she is charged with.
    ...
    Dr Christine Kennedy told the court that Ms Donaldson was found to be "severely depressed", suicidal and suffering with "high levels of anxiety".

    She said that on the balance of probabilities Ms Donaldson would not be able to instruct her legal team, could not follow the trial proceedings and would not be able to give evidence.

    At 60 as well. Either very unfortunate or very convenient for her.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,134

    Dopermean said:

    I don't remember hearing of a case like this before, of someone escaping trial on the basis of poor mental health.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2026/0520/1574342-eleanor-donaldson/

    A judge has ruled that the wife of former DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson is unfit to face a criminal trial on sexual offences charges due to the state of her mental health.

    Eleanor Donaldson, aged 60, will now face what is called a "trial of facts" rather than a normal trial.

    That means a jury cannot find her guilty but will be asked to determine whether she committed the offences she is charged with.
    ...
    Dr Christine Kennedy told the court that Ms Donaldson was found to be "severely depressed", suicidal and suffering with "high levels of anxiety".

    She said that on the balance of probabilities Ms Donaldson would not be able to instruct her legal team, could not follow the trial proceedings and would not be able to give evidence.

    The prospect of a long custodial sentence can do that to you
    That was my thought. It must be pretty normal to feel anxious and depressed when facing such charges (particularly when you read between the lines in this particular case).

    It seems astonishing that it should give you an out from having to face trial and the potential for conviction.
    Well exactly. It's Northern Ireland though, so what did you expect? Hopefully the people that Jeffrey Donaldson has absolutely no connection to whatsoever have drawn the line at sorting out a similar get out for Jeffrey.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 103,799

    I don't remember hearing of a case like this before, of someone escaping trial on the basis of poor mental health.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2026/0520/1574342-eleanor-donaldson/

    A judge has ruled that the wife of former DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson is unfit to face a criminal trial on sexual offences charges due to the state of her mental health.

    Eleanor Donaldson, aged 60, will now face what is called a "trial of facts" rather than a normal trial.

    That means a jury cannot find her guilty but will be asked to determine whether she committed the offences she is charged with.
    ...
    Dr Christine Kennedy told the court that Ms Donaldson was found to be "severely depressed", suicidal and suffering with "high levels of anxiety".

    She said that on the balance of probabilities Ms Donaldson would not be able to instruct her legal team, could not follow the trial proceedings and would not be able to give evidence.

    Happens regularly, happened in 2012 with a former MP.

    Margaret Moran, the former Labour MP, has been ruled "unfit to plead" to charges of falsely claiming £80,000 in expenses and will not face trial.

    The 56-year-old is suffering from severe depressive mental illness and extreme anxiety and agitation due to the stress of legal proceedings and issues in her childhood, a court was told.

    She also suffered feelings of abandonment by the Labour party, and intense shame that her parliamentary career was over.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/apr/27/margaret-moran-not-fit-trial
    And of course many in the workplace suddenly need to be signed off with stress when investigated.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 13,446
    kle4 said:

    I don't remember hearing of a case like this before, of someone escaping trial on the basis of poor mental health.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2026/0520/1574342-eleanor-donaldson/

    A judge has ruled that the wife of former DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson is unfit to face a criminal trial on sexual offences charges due to the state of her mental health.

    Eleanor Donaldson, aged 60, will now face what is called a "trial of facts" rather than a normal trial.

    That means a jury cannot find her guilty but will be asked to determine whether she committed the offences she is charged with.
    ...
    Dr Christine Kennedy told the court that Ms Donaldson was found to be "severely depressed", suicidal and suffering with "high levels of anxiety".

    She said that on the balance of probabilities Ms Donaldson would not be able to instruct her legal team, could not follow the trial proceedings and would not be able to give evidence.

    At 60 as well. Either very unfortunate or very convenient for her.
    I see you that, and raise you this:

    He was sentenced to five years' imprisonment, but released after 10 months as he was believed to be suffering from Alzheimer's disease. He subsequently recovered.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,561

    kle4 said:

    I don't remember hearing of a case like this before, of someone escaping trial on the basis of poor mental health.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2026/0520/1574342-eleanor-donaldson/

    A judge has ruled that the wife of former DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson is unfit to face a criminal trial on sexual offences charges due to the state of her mental health.

    Eleanor Donaldson, aged 60, will now face what is called a "trial of facts" rather than a normal trial.

    That means a jury cannot find her guilty but will be asked to determine whether she committed the offences she is charged with.
    ...
    Dr Christine Kennedy told the court that Ms Donaldson was found to be "severely depressed", suicidal and suffering with "high levels of anxiety".

    She said that on the balance of probabilities Ms Donaldson would not be able to instruct her legal team, could not follow the trial proceedings and would not be able to give evidence.

    At 60 as well. Either very unfortunate or very convenient for her.
    I see you that, and raise you this:

    He was sentenced to five years' imprisonment, but released after 10 months as he was believed to be suffering from Alzheimer's disease. He subsequently recovered.
    He's still alive too.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,196
    Ukraine is testing using balloons to carry drones behind Russian lines and so extend their range (when the wind is blowing in the right direction).
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,566
    Huzzah more work for lawyers

    Hull City looking into automatic promotion amid ‘spygate’ furore

    Club owner says he has been advised they should go directly to Premier League after Southampton’s expulsion from Championship play-off final


    Hull City are exploring a case to be automatically promoted to the Premier League after Southampton’s “spygate” play-off final expulsion.

    Acun Ilicali, the club’s owner, said he is considering his options after his lawyers told him “we should go directly to the Premier League”.

    Hull’s intervention comes after Southampton apologised for spying on Middlesbrough, Ipswich Town and Oxford United but insisted their final ban was “manifestly disproportionate”.

    Following the news that Southampton have failed with their appeal, City will now face Middlesbrough at Wembley on Saturday, although Ilicali, a Turkish businessman and broadcaster, has reservations about whether the game should take place.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/05/20/southampton-sorry-for-spygate-but-this-sanction-is-wrong/
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,726

    Ukraine is testing using balloons to carry drones behind Russian lines and so extend their range (when the wind is blowing in the right direction).

    The Japanese tried something like that during the War. It didn’t go well. I expect the Ukrainians to be more successful.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,489
    Taz said:

    dixiedean said:

    The Lib Dems are going to have to go for someone conceived at Seven Sisters dogging site.

    I just made the mistake of googling that !!!!

    There used to be a dogging site in the woods near where I live. The council blocked off the car park.
    Is that a euphamism?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,196

    I don't remember hearing of a case like this before, of someone escaping trial on the basis of poor mental health.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2026/0520/1574342-eleanor-donaldson/

    A judge has ruled that the wife of former DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson is unfit to face a criminal trial on sexual offences charges due to the state of her mental health.

    Eleanor Donaldson, aged 60, will now face what is called a "trial of facts" rather than a normal trial.

    That means a jury cannot find her guilty but will be asked to determine whether she committed the offences she is charged with.
    ...
    Dr Christine Kennedy told the court that Ms Donaldson was found to be "severely depressed", suicidal and suffering with "high levels of anxiety".

    She said that on the balance of probabilities Ms Donaldson would not be able to instruct her legal team, could not follow the trial proceedings and would not be able to give evidence.

    Happens regularly, happened in 2012 with a former MP.

    Margaret Moran, the former Labour MP, has been ruled "unfit to plead" to charges of falsely claiming £80,000 in expenses and will not face trial.

    The 56-year-old is suffering from severe depressive mental illness and extreme anxiety and agitation due to the stress of legal proceedings and issues in her childhood, a court was told.

    She also suffered feelings of abandonment by the Labour party, and intense shame that her parliamentary career was over.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/apr/27/margaret-moran-not-fit-trial
    Huh.

    I am genuinely very surprised.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,230
    Labour is definitely planning to join the Customs Union:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g85dryv24o
  • THIS arrived today

    I used to drink my morning espresso out of ordinary industrial coffee cups. Made by clay from a spray gun, sent on a conveyor belt into a kiln, packed by another machine, shipped 6,000 miles in a container, and sold to me through six layers of distribution. Total human contact: almost nil

    Now I drink from this. Bloor Derby coffee can. Cast in Derbyshire from local clays in about 1815. Thrown or moulded by a named workman. Decorated in Imari-style with exquisite cobalt and gold by a painter whose number was 4 - it’s marked on the base - and whose hand can be traced on the asymmetric surface. Further gilded by a specialist. Fired in coal kilns by stokers. Sold to a specific Regency household - or possibly a coffee house. Then handed down or sold on. It is tiny and precious and it has endured and survived two hundred years of turmoil, attics, house-moves, two world wars, two pandemics, and now it fetches up in Camden

    £21 on eBay


  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,791

    Play off final: Boro v Hull, 3.30 on Saturday

    4 point penalty remains in place.

    An all-Yorkshire encounter.
    Used to be known as the Flamengo Land derby.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,032
    carnforth said:

    Labour is definitely planning to join the Customs Union:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g85dryv24o

    Cutting red tape and regulations ✅
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 50,685

    kle4 said:

    I don't remember hearing of a case like this before, of someone escaping trial on the basis of poor mental health.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2026/0520/1574342-eleanor-donaldson/

    A judge has ruled that the wife of former DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson is unfit to face a criminal trial on sexual offences charges due to the state of her mental health.

    Eleanor Donaldson, aged 60, will now face what is called a "trial of facts" rather than a normal trial.

    That means a jury cannot find her guilty but will be asked to determine whether she committed the offences she is charged with.
    ...
    Dr Christine Kennedy told the court that Ms Donaldson was found to be "severely depressed", suicidal and suffering with "high levels of anxiety".

    She said that on the balance of probabilities Ms Donaldson would not be able to instruct her legal team, could not follow the trial proceedings and would not be able to give evidence.

    At 60 as well. Either very unfortunate or very convenient for her.
    I see you that, and raise you this:

    He was sentenced to five years' imprisonment, but released after 10 months as he was believed to be suffering from Alzheimer's disease. He subsequently recovered.
    Was that the Guinness guy?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,489

    Ed M is 14.

    Got to be value.

    If the plumber with Facebook friends bloke beats Andy B then it surely will be Miliband?

    Cameron 331 seats
    Miliband 232 Seats

    :innocent:
    That Exit Poll in 2015 was better than sex.
    I think you may be doing it wrong.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,768

    The Met Office long range forecast for mid-June includes the very informative: "Drier weather is expected between any bouts of wetter weather."

    No mention of night following day repeatedly.

    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk

    I predict the weather will be forever Wetter in Germany.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 50,685
    There's been quite a big move in the next GE market as a consequence of the expected Starmer Burnham swap.

    REF out from 2.1 to 2.7
    LAB in from 4.2 to 3.3

    Tracking for crossover if Burnham wins the by-election.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,196
    edited May 20

    The Met Office long range forecast for mid-June includes the very informative: "Drier weather is expected between any bouts of wetter weather."

    No mention of night following day repeatedly.

    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk

    The Irish weather forecasts often use a construction like that - "temporary periods of dry weather between rain and showers."

    It's a way of making a forecast with a lot of rain in it sound less depressing, because you're emphasising when it will be dry. Like saying it will be dry 10% of the time instead of saying it will be wet 90% of the time.

    Basically, no-one likes bad news, so the weather forecast has to be dressed up in as positive language as possible, or people will stop listening to it.

    What they're telling you is that there's a good chance of rain in June, but no-one wants to hear that, so they emphasise that it won't rain *all* the time.

    Conclusion: I'd make the most of the May heatwave. It's possible it will end up being the warmest weather of the summer.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,032

    The Met Office long range forecast for mid-June includes the very informative: "Drier weather is expected between any bouts of wetter weather."

    No mention of night following day repeatedly.

    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk

    The Irish weather forecasts often use a construction like that - "temporary periods of dry weather between the rain."

    It's a way of making a forecast with a lot of rain in it sound less depressing, because you're emphasising when it will be dry. Like saying it will be dry 10% of the time instead of saying it will be wet 90% of the time.

    Basically, no-one likes bad news, so the weather forecast has to be dressed up in as positive language as possible, or people will stop listening to it.

    What they're telling you is that there's a good chance of rain in June, but no-one wants to hear that, so they emphasise that it won't rain *all* the time.

    Conclusion: I'd make the most of the May heatwave. It's possible it will end up being the warmest weather of the summer.
    I thought we were getting super il nino droughts or something?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,768

    Southampton have lost their appeal.

    The innocent victims are Wrexham.

    They coulda (shoulda) been a contender.

    Justice delayed is justice denied.
    I know I bang on about Swindon in 1990 but there are parallels. After Swindon whopped Sunderland in the final (most one sided 1-0 I’ve ever seen) they were relegated again by the FA. Sunderland were promoted in their place. But why Sunderland and not Blackburn, who Swindon beat in the semis? It was a stupid situation and it’s happening again.
    Boro were Southampton's opponents in the semis.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,134
    Jonathan said:

    THIS arrived today

    I used to drink my morning espresso out of ordinary industrial coffee cups. Made by clay from a spray gun, sent on a conveyor belt into a kiln, packed by another machine, shipped 6,000 miles in a container, and sold to me through six layers of distribution. Total human contact: almost nil

    Now I drink from this. Bloor Derby coffee can. Cast in Derbyshire from local clays in about 1815. Thrown or moulded by a named workman. Decorated in Imari-style with exquisite cobalt and gold by a painter whose number was 4 - it’s marked on the base - and whose hand can be traced on the asymmetric surface. Further gilded by a specialist. Fired in coal kilns by stokers. Sold to a specific Regency household - or possibly a coffee house. Then handed down or sold on. It is tiny and precious and it has endured and survived two hundred years of turmoil, attics, house-moves, two world wars, two pandemics, and now it fetches up in Camden

    £21 on eBay


    Mug
    I suspect there's a NT visitor with a capacious bag and an ebay account
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,354

    The Met Office long range forecast for mid-June includes the very informative: "Drier weather is expected between any bouts of wetter weather."

    No mention of night following day repeatedly.

    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk

    The Irish weather forecasts often use a construction like that - "temporary periods of dry weather between the rain."

    It's a way of making a forecast with a lot of rain in it sound less depressing, because you're emphasising when it will be dry. Like saying it will be dry 10% of the time instead of saying it will be wet 90% of the time.

    Basically, no-one likes bad news, so the weather forecast has to be dressed up in as positive language as possible, or people will stop listening to it.

    What they're telling you is that there's a good chance of rain in June, but no-one wants to hear that, so they emphasise that it won't rain *all* the time.

    Conclusion: I'd make the most of the May heatwave. It's possible it will end up being the warmest weather of the summer.
    I thought we were getting super il nino droughts or something?
    Not until later in the year/next year.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,196

    The Met Office long range forecast for mid-June includes the very informative: "Drier weather is expected between any bouts of wetter weather."

    No mention of night following day repeatedly.

    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk

    The Irish weather forecasts often use a construction like that - "temporary periods of dry weather between the rain."

    It's a way of making a forecast with a lot of rain in it sound less depressing, because you're emphasising when it will be dry. Like saying it will be dry 10% of the time instead of saying it will be wet 90% of the time.

    Basically, no-one likes bad news, so the weather forecast has to be dressed up in as positive language as possible, or people will stop listening to it.

    What they're telling you is that there's a good chance of rain in June, but no-one wants to hear that, so they emphasise that it won't rain *all* the time.

    Conclusion: I'd make the most of the May heatwave. It's possible it will end up being the warmest weather of the summer.
    I thought we were getting super il nino droughts or something?
    There's normally a delay between an El-Nino occurring and its impacts, and the El-Nino isn't forecast to be established until ~August, and there are so many influences on the weather that when you get to somewhere far away from the tropical Pacific like the UK the connection isn't 1:1. It will make certain weather more likely, but not certain.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,354

    THIS arrived today

    I used to drink my morning espresso out of ordinary industrial coffee cups. Made by clay from a spray gun, sent on a conveyor belt into a kiln, packed by another machine, shipped 6,000 miles in a container, and sold to me through six layers of distribution. Total human contact: almost nil

    Now I drink from this. Bloor Derby coffee can. Cast in Derbyshire from local clays in about 1815. Thrown or moulded by a named workman. Decorated in Imari-style with exquisite cobalt and gold by a painter whose number was 4 - it’s marked on the base - and whose hand can be traced on the asymmetric surface. Further gilded by a specialist. Fired in coal kilns by stokers. Sold to a specific Regency household - or possibly a coffee house. Then handed down or sold on. It is tiny and precious and it has endured and survived two hundred years of turmoil, attics, house-moves, two world wars, two pandemics, and now it fetches up in Camden

    £21 on eBay


    Don't put it in the dishwasher.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,841
    https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2057205748975710338

    Rachel Reeves has joined TikTok to announce 5-15 year olds in England will receive free bus travel this summer
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 103,799
    rcs1000 said:

    Ed M is 14.

    Got to be value.

    If the plumber with Facebook friends bloke beats Andy B then it surely will be Miliband?

    Cameron 331 seats
    Miliband 232 Seats

    :innocent:
    That Exit Poll in 2015 was better than sex.
    I think you may be doing it wrong.
    They should both be once in a lifetime events?
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,134
    kinabalu said:

    kle4 said:

    I don't remember hearing of a case like this before, of someone escaping trial on the basis of poor mental health.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2026/0520/1574342-eleanor-donaldson/

    A judge has ruled that the wife of former DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson is unfit to face a criminal trial on sexual offences charges due to the state of her mental health.

    Eleanor Donaldson, aged 60, will now face what is called a "trial of facts" rather than a normal trial.

    That means a jury cannot find her guilty but will be asked to determine whether she committed the offences she is charged with.
    ...
    Dr Christine Kennedy told the court that Ms Donaldson was found to be "severely depressed", suicidal and suffering with "high levels of anxiety".

    She said that on the balance of probabilities Ms Donaldson would not be able to instruct her legal team, could not follow the trial proceedings and would not be able to give evidence.

    At 60 as well. Either very unfortunate or very convenient for her.
    I see you that, and raise you this:

    He was sentenced to five years' imprisonment, but released after 10 months as he was believed to be suffering from Alzheimer's disease. He subsequently recovered.
    Was that the Guinness guy?
    Ernest Saunders, 90 now, no info on whether he has since succumbed to dementia
  • THIS arrived today

    I used to drink my morning espresso out of ordinary industrial coffee cups. Made by clay from a spray gun, sent on a conveyor belt into a kiln, packed by another machine, shipped 6,000 miles in a container, and sold to me through six layers of distribution. Total human contact: almost nil

    Now I drink from this. Bloor Derby coffee can. Cast in Derbyshire from local clays in about 1815. Thrown or moulded by a named workman. Decorated in Imari-style with exquisite cobalt and gold by a painter whose number was 4 - it’s marked on the base - and whose hand can be traced on the asymmetric surface. Further gilded by a specialist. Fired in coal kilns by stokers. Sold to a specific Regency household - or possibly a coffee house. Then handed down or sold on. It is tiny and precious and it has endured and survived two hundred years of turmoil, attics, house-moves, two world wars, two pandemics, and now it fetches up in Camden

    £21 on eBay


    Don't put it in the dishwasher.
    I don’t own a dishwasher

    People not taking advantage of the insane cheapness of beautiful old things are fools
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,196
    edited May 20
    eek said:

    https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2057205748975710338

    Rachel Reeves has joined TikTok to announce 5-15 year olds in England will receive free bus travel this summer

    Again another announcement that should be in Parliament first
    It's not like anyone on tiktok is going to have the appointment spoiled for them if it is made to Parliament first. I don't see what the gain is to announce it first on tiktok (except that it avoids ministers being challenged by the opposition, I guess, which is a pretty big fudge and undermines the whole principle of the Executive being accountable to Parliament).

    Ministers should be suspended from Parliament for this sort of thing until they start making announcements to Parliament first.
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    edited May 20
    Dopermean said:

    Jonathan said:

    THIS arrived today

    I used to drink my morning espresso out of ordinary industrial coffee cups. Made by clay from a spray gun, sent on a conveyor belt into a kiln, packed by another machine, shipped 6,000 miles in a container, and sold to me through six layers of distribution. Total human contact: almost nil

    Now I drink from this. Bloor Derby coffee can. Cast in Derbyshire from local clays in about 1815. Thrown or moulded by a named workman. Decorated in Imari-style with exquisite cobalt and gold by a painter whose number was 4 - it’s marked on the base - and whose hand can be traced on the asymmetric surface. Further gilded by a specialist. Fired in coal kilns by stokers. Sold to a specific Regency household - or possibly a coffee house. Then handed down or sold on. It is tiny and precious and it has endured and survived two hundred years of turmoil, attics, house-moves, two world wars, two pandemics, and now it fetches up in Camden

    £21 on eBay


    Mug
    I suspect there's a NT visitor with a capacious bag and an ebay account
    Here’s the listing. I was the only bidder

    £21

    https://ebay.us/m/gKj7sc

    It’s entirely possible someone drank coffee out of this, as they heard the news from the Battle of Waterloo

    Which is great and all. But what makes these things brilliant is that they are superb coffee cups NOW. If you like your coffee short and black, or maybe cortado, like me

    I’ve discovered I actually drink MORE coffee because using these “cans”’ - I have about eight now - is in itself so pleasing. The delicacy and beauty, the noom and the history. Have another shot!? Why not
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,561

    The Met Office long range forecast for mid-June includes the very informative: "Drier weather is expected between any bouts of wetter weather."

    No mention of night following day repeatedly.

    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk

    The Irish weather forecasts often use a construction like that - "temporary periods of dry weather between rain and showers."

    It's a way of making a forecast with a lot of rain in it sound less depressing, because you're emphasising when it will be dry. Like saying it will be dry 10% of the time instead of saying it will be wet 90% of the time.

    Basically, no-one likes bad news, so the weather forecast has to be dressed up in as positive language as possible, or people will stop listening to it.

    What they're telling you is that there's a good chance of rain in June, but no-one wants to hear that, so they emphasise that it won't rain *all* the time.

    Conclusion: I'd make the most of the May heatwave. It's possible it will end up being the warmest weather of the summer.
    When deciding if you're going to study meteorology you need to ask yourself weather or not.
  • The Met Office long range forecast for mid-June includes the very informative: "Drier weather is expected between any bouts of wetter weather."

    No mention of night following day repeatedly.

    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk

    The Irish weather forecasts often use a construction like that - "temporary periods of dry weather between rain and showers."

    It's a way of making a forecast with a lot of rain in it sound less depressing, because you're emphasising when it will be dry. Like saying it will be dry 10% of the time instead of saying it will be wet 90% of the time.

    Basically, no-one likes bad news, so the weather forecast has to be dressed up in as positive language as possible, or people will stop listening to it.

    What they're telling you is that there's a good chance of rain in June, but no-one wants to hear that, so they emphasise that it won't rain *all* the time.

    Conclusion: I'd make the most of the May heatwave. It's possible it will end up being the warmest weather of the summer.
    You have absolutely zero evidence for this
  • PeterCairnsPeterCairns Posts: 39

    Ukraine is testing using balloons to carry drones behind Russian lines and so extend their range (when the wind is blowing in the right direction).

    Well that's a job for Starmer if Burnham gets in!

    Peter.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,489

    The Met Office long range forecast for mid-June includes the very informative: "Drier weather is expected between any bouts of wetter weather."

    No mention of night following day repeatedly.

    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk

    The Irish weather forecasts often use a construction like that - "temporary periods of dry weather between rain and showers."

    It's a way of making a forecast with a lot of rain in it sound less depressing, because you're emphasising when it will be dry. Like saying it will be dry 10% of the time instead of saying it will be wet 90% of the time.

    Basically, no-one likes bad news, so the weather forecast has to be dressed up in as positive language as possible, or people will stop listening to it.

    What they're telling you is that there's a good chance of rain in June, but no-one wants to hear that, so they emphasise that it won't rain *all* the time.

    Conclusion: I'd make the most of the May heatwave. It's possible it will end up being the warmest weather of the summer.
    You have absolutely zero evidence for this
    Are you having trouble with the meaning of the word "possible"?
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    edited May 20
    I’m old enough to remember about sixteen weeks ago when pundits were saying the EPL was dying and continental clubs were surging in front

    Now Villa win the Europa and Palace and the ARSE could make it a clean sweep. Albeit unlikely - but possible
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 39,778
    Another really good little video for the PB Tories. How Tony Benn and Labour singlehandedly destroyed the entire British Motor Industry.

    This is a subject I am reasonably well versed in and whilst the film is generally historically accurate the extrapolation is obviously the film maker's simplistic and partisan view. But if you like the idea that Labour politicians are wholly responsible for breaking Britain this is another one for you.

    https://youtu.be/QfkXDUaESQ0?si=dv_997ZJYwCe-hXg
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 6,053

    THIS arrived today

    I used to drink my morning espresso out of ordinary industrial coffee cups. Made by clay from a spray gun, sent on a conveyor belt into a kiln, packed by another machine, shipped 6,000 miles in a container, and sold to me through six layers of distribution. Total human contact: almost nil

    Now I drink from this. Bloor Derby coffee can. Cast in Derbyshire from local clays in about 1815. Thrown or moulded by a named workman. Decorated in Imari-style with exquisite cobalt and gold by a painter whose number was 4 - it’s marked on the base - and whose hand can be traced on the asymmetric surface. Further gilded by a specialist. Fired in coal kilns by stokers. Sold to a specific Regency household - or possibly a coffee house. Then handed down or sold on. It is tiny and precious and it has endured and survived two hundred years of turmoil, attics, house-moves, two world wars, two pandemics, and now it fetches up in Camden

    £21 on eBay


    Don't put it in the dishwasher.
    I don’t own a dishwasher

    People not taking advantage of the insane cheapness of beautiful old things are fools
    You've just doxxed your optimistic tinder profile.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 28,763
    Michael Winstanley standing for Conservatives in Makerfield

    https://x.com/Conservatives/status/2057154576180998286#m
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,150
    viewcode said:

    Michael Winstanley standing for Conservatives in Makerfield

    https://x.com/Conservatives/status/2057154576180998286#m

    Stood previously for the party in the seat in 1997. Has there been such a large gap in time before for a candidate?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 39,778

    Dopermean said:

    Jonathan said:

    THIS arrived today

    I used to drink my morning espresso out of ordinary industrial coffee cups. Made by clay from a spray gun, sent on a conveyor belt into a kiln, packed by another machine, shipped 6,000 miles in a container, and sold to me through six layers of distribution. Total human contact: almost nil

    Now I drink from this. Bloor Derby coffee can. Cast in Derbyshire from local clays in about 1815. Thrown or moulded by a named workman. Decorated in Imari-style with exquisite cobalt and gold by a painter whose number was 4 - it’s marked on the base - and whose hand can be traced on the asymmetric surface. Further gilded by a specialist. Fired in coal kilns by stokers. Sold to a specific Regency household - or possibly a coffee house. Then handed down or sold on. It is tiny and precious and it has endured and survived two hundred years of turmoil, attics, house-moves, two world wars, two pandemics, and now it fetches up in Camden

    £21 on eBay


    Mug
    I suspect there's a NT visitor with a capacious bag and an ebay account
    Here’s the listing. I was the only bidder

    £21

    https://ebay.us/m/gKj7sc

    It’s entirely possible someone drank coffee out of this, as they heard the news from the Battle of Waterloo

    Which is great and all. But what makes these things brilliant is that they are superb coffee cups NOW. If you like your coffee short and black, or maybe cortado, like me

    I’ve discovered I actually drink MORE coffee because using these “cans”’ - I have about eight now - is in itself so pleasing. The delicacy and beauty, the noom and the history. Have another shot!? Why not
    Would you mind if I joined you in Pseud's Corner? I have a considerable amount of Royal Worcester Prince Regent which in its day was very expensive but is now worth next to nothing, much like your Crown Derby. By the way the deluxe version of your coffee can comes with a saucer.

    If you want the finest, whitest British porcelain look no further than Nantgarw and Swansea pottery. Your Nescafé Azzera will taste like the nectar of the Gods.

    https://auctions.rogersjones.co.uk/past-auctions/rogers10172/lot-details/bfc311c0-5349-4097-8ed7-a90600fe3368
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,150
    That video again in case anyone missed it earlier.

    "How Just One Mistake Destroyed Birmingham
    METTLE"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgBkikcTITM
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 9,354
    This is a major misstep by Burnham I think. It probably doesn't help him much in his by-election and it hurts him a lot if he has to run for leader.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/20/burnham-to-back-shabana-mahmoods-immigration-changes-allies-say?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,841
    Interesting use of AI in the Los Angeles mayoral election:

    https://x.com/dsonoiki/status/2057088569056034922
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 28,763
    The corporatist death of Birmingham
    Recently there has been a rash of people on PB deprecating the corporatism of the 1945-1979 era, in particular its damage to the MIdlands. Previously I was only aware of @Luckyguy1983 holding this view (I think it came up during my Blob article), but apparently there's more than one of you. To try to put things in the one place, the three links below were listed by them in the past few days on PB

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgBkikcTITM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfkXDUaESQ0
    https://web.archive.org/web/20181202122157/https://www.economist.com/blighty/2013/05/31/how-to-kill-a-city

    If you have any more, please post
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,242
    FT doing clickbait now?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,340

    Good grief

    "PA: A retrial jury has been discharged at Liverpool Crown Court after it failed to reach verdicts over allegations that Mohammed Fahir Amaaz, 21, and Muhammad Amaad, 26, assaulted a police officer at Manchester Airport."

    They broke her nose, on video, with a brutal punch

    https://x.com/GuidoFawkes/status/2057126451208503750?s=20

    And was found guilty. This retrial was for the assault on the male copper.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,340

    eek said:

    https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2057205748975710338

    Rachel Reeves has joined TikTok to announce 5-15 year olds in England will receive free bus travel this summer

    Again another announcement that should be in Parliament first
    It's not like anyone on tiktok is going to have the appointment spoiled for them if it is made to Parliament first. I don't see what the gain is to announce it first on tiktok (except that it avoids ministers being challenged by the opposition, I guess, which is a pretty big fudge and undermines the whole principle of the Executive being accountable to Parliament).

    Ministers should be suspended from Parliament for this sort of thing until they start making announcements to Parliament first.
    Erm...
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 64,489

    ICYMI for the pb academics and medics, BBC4 is re-showing A Very Peculiar Practice and both series are on iplayer.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p02zm1rf/a-very-peculiar-practice

    I *love* that series.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,687
    Good morning. It’s a good morning because Moscow’s on fire again. Airports all closed because of foreign drone activity in the region.

    https://x.com/olenarohoza/status/2057282622175285339

    Not just Moscow either, Ryazan refinery is on fire again too. Very much on fire, only a day after they put out the last one!

    https://x.com/euromaidanpr/status/2056965458209673398
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 66,576
    Andy_JS said:

    From Janan Ganesh's latest column.

    "For a long time, it has been perfectly obvious what vision Britain needs to pursue. The state, especially its welfare and pension function, must be contained. The resulting fiscal room must be used to incentivise the working population. The whole process will create relative losers, and absolute ones too. The resulting anger might tip into civil disorder. How much easier it is to get lost in airy waffle about what this or that prime minister “stands for”. Labour has the wrong ideas, but no lack of them. Britain can only wish the government were as vague and directionless as its reputation." (£)

    https://www.ft.com/content/4bf7b4e9-7b34-464f-b9a8-52221621c23c

    We need a new Thatcher.

    Trouble this time is that she'd have to sort of go after her own base too.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,687

    Interesting use of AI in the Los Angeles mayoral election:

    https://x.com/dsonoiki/status/2057088569056034922

    I don’t think he’s going to win, but he’s put in one hell of a campaign.

    Pratt is an actor/celebrity type who lost his house in the big fire last year, and is furious that the city is getting in the way of letting people rebuild.

    Primary is on June 2nd, top two go to a runoff in November unless one of the 14(!) candidates gets 50%.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,687

    eek said:

    https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2057205748975710338

    Rachel Reeves has joined TikTok to announce 5-15 year olds in England will receive free bus travel this summer

    Again another announcement that should be in Parliament first
    It's not like anyone on tiktok is going to have the appointment spoiled for them if it is made to Parliament first. I don't see what the gain is to announce it first on tiktok (except that it avoids ministers being challenged by the opposition, I guess, which is a pretty big fudge and undermines the whole principle of the Executive being accountable to Parliament).

    Ministers should be suspended from Parliament for this sort of thing until they start making announcements to Parliament first.
    It’s been going on since at least 1997, and won’t stop until the Speaker applies meaningful sanctions to ministers who do it. Same with the extensive briefing to the media in advance.

    Call me old-fashioned, but I want the morning news to be about what was announced yesterday, with analysis and commentary on it - not a bunch of speculation about what will or will not be announced later today.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,032
    For all the criticism of HS2, the infrastructure they are building over the M42 for it looks absolutely class. Futuristic and very sleek.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,032
    Currently on the train to London for an in-person meeting. How quaint.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,687

    For all the criticism of HS2, the infrastructure they are building over the M42 for it looks absolutely class. Futuristic and very sleek.

    Like many of these projects, it will undoubtedly be great once it’s operational.

    The problems are the cost overruns and the delays. It likely would have been quicker and cheaper to build a tunnel all the way from London to Birmingham. A lot less land, fewer objections, fewer environmental regulations…
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,242

    Currently on the train to London for an in-person meeting. How quaint.

    Managed to attend a presentation to 125 people on Zoom from the middle of the French countryside by using my phone. Much better than London and a stuffy hall.
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