On a human level I thought Starmer looked forlorn, even haunted today, and I did feel a bit for him
But politics is politics and he simply is not suited to be PM
Curiously, I had said exactly the same before I read your post. Yesterday morning he was full of vim ready to take on all comers with all the advantages of office. But, firstly with Wes and then with Burnham’s moves, it all fizzled away. He has weeks left as PM but the power has gone already. He cuts a sorry figure. If he wasn’t such a shit I would feel sorry for him.
Where’s that vitriol come from? Disagree with his politics, lament his ineptitude, but a bit like Theresa May I don’t think he’s an unnecessarily cruel individual.
The internet is a pretty nasty place sometimes and I think that is influencing how people feel about Starmer. Frankly if he did possess the kind of malice people suggest then he might have been a much better PM.
The way he had treated those working for him and his willingness to sack them to protect his own skin sickened me. Sir Olly Robbins in particular. Disgraceful behaviour.
Hmm, I think you have a point about Robbins tbf. And perhaps when this is all over that will be the point at which this turned, and what he will come to regret.
G'day. I heard more today from my tory voting acquaintance in Manchester. He owns a pub and recently opened a restaurant.
He loves Andy Burnham and thinks he has "been brilliant for business" in the city. He loves that he gets things done. He was desperately hoping to hold onto Burnham as mayor of Manchester.
The last politician who cut through across the political divide like this was ... Boris.
This is why this guy is such a threat to a Reform or Tory-Reform Government.
Andy Burnham is the most odious little rat I think I've ever seen in British politics, which is saying something. A person utterly devoid of principles who would push anyone under a train to further his own ends.
I'm still seething with anger at this "Labour" Government for whom I so mistakenly and bitterly voted
Your not very good at spotting odious little rats are you?
Or persons utterly devoid of principles who would push anyone under a train to further their own ends.
Both SKS and your current MP fit the odious rats devoid of principles much more than the KoN
Is it true that Andy Burnham is merely SKS with mascara and a faux Northern accent?
No he has committed to let Jezza rejoin
Anyone who commits to let Corbyn rejoin the Labour Party should be expelled from the Labour Party.
On a human level I thought Starmer looked forlorn, even haunted today, and I did feel a bit for him
But politics is politics and he simply is not suited to be PM
Curiously, I had said exactly the same before I read your post. Yesterday morning he was full of vim ready to take on all comers with all the advantages of office. But, firstly with Wes and then with Burnham’s moves, it all fizzled away. He has weeks left as PM but the power has gone already. He cuts a sorry figure. If he wasn’t such a shit I would feel sorry for him.
Where’s that vitriol come from? Disagree with his politics, lament his ineptitude, but a bit like Theresa May I don’t think he’s an unnecessarily cruel individual.
The internet is a pretty nasty place sometimes and I think that is influencing how people feel about Starmer. Frankly if he did possess the kind of malice people suggest then he might have been a much better PM.
The way he had treated those working for him and his willingness to sack them to protect his own skin sickened me. Sir Olly Robbins in particular. Disgraceful behaviour.
Hmm, I think you have a point about Robbins tbf. And perhaps when this is all over that will be the point at which this turned, and what he will come to regret.
The sacking of Robbins, who it must be said does appear to be a bit of a tit, was the moment I realised Starmer is undeniably weak and entitled. Up to that moment I thought Starmer had been given a rum deal. He hadn't, he is just shite.
G'day. I heard more today from my tory voting acquaintance in Manchester. He owns a pub and recently opened a restaurant.
He loves Andy Burnham and thinks he has "been brilliant for business" in the city. He loves that he gets things done. He was desperately hoping to hold onto Burnham as mayor of Manchester.
The last politician who cut through across the political divide like this was ... Boris.
This is why this guy is such a threat to a Reform or Tory-Reform Government.
Andy Burnham is the most odious little rat I think I've ever seen in British politics, which is saying something. A person utterly devoid of principles who would push anyone under a train to further his own ends.
I'm still seething with anger at this "Labour" Government for whom I so mistakenly and bitterly voted
But there must be something you don't like about him.
G'day. I heard more today from my tory voting acquaintance in Manchester. He owns a pub and recently opened a restaurant.
He loves Andy Burnham and thinks he has "been brilliant for business" in the city. He loves that he gets things done. He was desperately hoping to hold onto Burnham as mayor of Manchester.
The last politician who cut through across the political divide like this was ... Boris.
This is why this guy is such a threat to a Reform or Tory-Reform Government.
Andy Burnham is the most odious little rat I think I've ever seen in British politics, which is saying something. A person utterly devoid of principles who would push anyone under a train to further his own ends.
I'm still seething with anger at this "Labour" Government for whom I so mistakenly and bitterly voted
Your not very good at spotting odious little rats are you?
Or persons utterly devoid of principles who would push anyone under a train to further their own ends.
Both SKS and your current MP fit the odious rats devoid of principles much more than the KoN
Is it true that Andy Burnham is merely SKS with mascara and a faux Northern accent?
Nasal voice? Check. Charisma free (to me at least)? Check. Incompetent? TBC.
I think a great leader of the opposition should have a plan for governing. One that doesn't involve turning the country into an impoverished Stalinist hellscape I mean.
This is something that has got my goat about the resignations of Wes Streeting and Jess Phillips. Commentators have been saying 'Ooooh, they pulled no punches' - but they did. They pulled the punch of what different policies they think should have been pursued. It was their own version of the ming vase. Both their critiques left room for any policies they care to dream up. That's not good enough any more.
On a similar note, I find it very annoying when commentators insist, "People need to feeeeel better off" - as if we need to give the electorate some shiny lego coins or put prozac in the drinking water. People don't 'feel' poorer, they are poorer. Money doesn't 'feel like' it's all going to the Treasury and the big corporations, it is. Energy is a good example - we used to pay for coal and gas generation, a little above wholesale prices, and mainly British energy companies made good profits for mainly British shareholders. Now we have Net Zero, and it's a profit feeding frenzy for the world's pension funds, and the poor are paying for it. Anyone who tries to deal with it is going to need to be brave and resourceful, because you have effectively to take money away from the powerful and well-resourced (not in tax but in opportunity cost) and give it back to taxpayers. And they will use every smear and connivance to retain those profits.
If you want an example of a vacuous prospectus, here is the article in the New Statesman from Al Carns from a few days ago (£)
I see the media are desperate to make out as if Makerfield is going to be a hard slog for Burnham thereby further enhancing his credentials as the Reform Terminator if he wins .
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I think a great leader of the opposition should have a plan for governing. One that doesn't involve turning the country into an impoverished Stalinist hellscape I mean.
This is something that has got my goat about the resignations of Wes Streeting and Jess Phillips. Commentators have been saying 'Ooooh, they pulled no punches' - but they did. They pulled the punch of what different policies they think should have been pursued. It was their own version of the ming vase. Both their critiques left room for any policies they care to dream up. That's not good enough any more.
On a similar note, I find it very annoying when commentators insist, "People need to feeeeel better off" - as if we need to give the electorate some shiny lego coins or put prozac in the drinking water. People don't 'feel' poorer, they are poorer. Money doesn't 'feel like' it's all going to the Treasury and the big corporations, it is. Energy is a good example - we used to pay for coal and gas generation, a little above wholesale prices, and mainly British energy companies made good profits for mainly British shareholders. Now we have Net Zero, and it's a profit feeding frenzy for the world's pension funds, and the poor are paying for it. Anyone who tries to deal with it is going to need to be brave and resourceful, because you have effectively to take money away from the powerful and well-resourced (not in tax but in opportunity cost) and give it back to taxpayers. And they will use every smear and connivance to retain those profits.
Objectively people are better off though? GDP, GDP per capita, real wages etc. The general story is things get slowly better. Energy bills have fallen (albeit they are scheduled to rise later in the year).
On a human level I thought Starmer looked forlorn, even haunted today, and I did feel a bit for him
But politics is politics and he simply is not suited to be PM
Curiously, I had said exactly the same before I read your post. Yesterday morning he was full of vim ready to take on all comers with all the advantages of office. But, firstly with Wes and then with Burnham’s moves, it all fizzled away. He has weeks left as PM but the power has gone already. He cuts a sorry figure. If he wasn’t such a shit I would feel sorry for him.
Where’s that vitriol come from? Disagree with his politics, lament his ineptitude, but a bit like Theresa May I don’t think he’s an unnecessarily cruel individual.
The internet is a pretty nasty place sometimes and I think that is influencing how people feel about Starmer. Frankly if he did possess the kind of malice people suggest then he might have been a much better PM.
For me it's been throwing people in front of the bus for his own failures and mistakes. A real leader takes proper accountability and he's shown that he's not up to it and he's all too willing to scapegoat everyone else. The hypocrisy of how he called for Boris to resign for, IMO, much lesser offences than his repeated failures on Mandelson and then blame shifted all the responsibility to underlings has made me actively loathe him.
On a human level I thought Starmer looked forlorn, even haunted today, and I did feel a bit for him
But politics is politics and he simply is not suited to be PM
Curiously, I had said exactly the same before I read your post. Yesterday morning he was full of vim ready to take on all comers with all the advantages of office. But, firstly with Wes and then with Burnham’s moves, it all fizzled away. He has weeks left as PM but the power has gone already. He cuts a sorry figure. If he wasn’t such a shit I would feel sorry for him.
Where’s that vitriol come from? Disagree with his politics, lament his ineptitude, but a bit like Theresa May I don’t think he’s an unnecessarily cruel individual.
The internet is a pretty nasty place sometimes and I think that is influencing how people feel about Starmer. Frankly if he did possess the kind of malice people suggest then he might have been a much better PM.
For me it's been throwing people in front of the bus for his own failures and mistakes. A real leader takes proper accountability and he's shown that he's not up to it and he's all too willing to scapegoat everyone else. The hypocrisy of how he called for Boris to resign for, IMO, much lesser offences than his repeated failures on Mandelson and then blame shifted all the responsibility to underlings has made me actively loathe him.
He has a lot of skeletons in the cupboard too. Actively loathing him is spot on. I have no sympathy for him especially in amongst that nest of vipers. As ye sew so shall ye reap.
On a human level I thought Starmer looked forlorn, even haunted today, and I did feel a bit for him
But politics is politics and he simply is not suited to be PM
Curiously, I had said exactly the same before I read your post. Yesterday morning he was full of vim ready to take on all comers with all the advantages of office. But, firstly with Wes and then with Burnham’s moves, it all fizzled away. He has weeks left as PM but the power has gone already. He cuts a sorry figure. If he wasn’t such a shit I would feel sorry for him.
Where’s that vitriol come from? Disagree with his politics, lament his ineptitude, but a bit like Theresa May I don’t think he’s an unnecessarily cruel individual.
The internet is a pretty nasty place sometimes and I think that is influencing how people feel about Starmer. Frankly if he did possess the kind of malice people suggest then he might have been a much better PM.
For me it's been throwing people in front of the bus for his own failures and mistakes. A real leader takes proper accountability and he's shown that he's not up to it and he's all too willing to scapegoat everyone else. The hypocrisy of how he called for Boris to resign for, IMO, much lesser offences than his repeated failures on Mandelson and then blame shifted all the responsibility to underlings has made me actively loathe him.
Partying away whilst the ventilators were being turned off and then repeatedly lying about it in the commons is IMO far worse than anything Starmer has ever done .
Starmer knowingly appointed a security risk to one of the highest diplomatic posts the nation has an gave him privileged access to classified information. Mandelson literally sold state secrets to Epstein and has a lot of dodgy links to China and Russia. That is an unforgiving lapse in judgement. Boris being ambushed with cake pales in comparison to the amount of damage someone like Mandelson has done and could continue to do in the position he was appointed to.
On a human level I thought Starmer looked forlorn, even haunted today, and I did feel a bit for him
But politics is politics and he simply is not suited to be PM
Curiously, I had said exactly the same before I read your post. Yesterday morning he was full of vim ready to take on all comers with all the advantages of office. But, firstly with Wes and then with Burnham’s moves, it all fizzled away. He has weeks left as PM but the power has gone already. He cuts a sorry figure. If he wasn’t such a shit I would feel sorry for him.
Where’s that vitriol come from? Disagree with his politics, lament his ineptitude, but a bit like Theresa May I don’t think he’s an unnecessarily cruel individual.
The internet is a pretty nasty place sometimes and I think that is influencing how people feel about Starmer. Frankly if he did possess the kind of malice people suggest then he might have been a much better PM.
For me it's been throwing people in front of the bus for his own failures and mistakes. A real leader takes proper accountability and he's shown that he's not up to it and he's all too willing to scapegoat everyone else. The hypocrisy of how he called for Boris to resign for, IMO, much lesser offences than his repeated failures on Mandelson and then blame shifted all the responsibility to underlings has made me actively loathe him.
Partying away whilst the ventilators were being turned off and then repeatedly lying about it in the commons is IMO far worse than anything Starmer has ever done .
Partying away whilst I was locked up under orders in my tiny flat too.
Starmer knowingly appointed a security risk to one of the highest diplomatic posts the nation has an gave him privileged access to classified information. Mandelson literally sold state secrets to Epstein and has a lot of dodgy links to China and Russia. That is an unforgiving lapse in judgement. Boris being ambushed with cake pales in comparison to the amount of damage someone like Mandelson has done and could continue to do in the position he was appointed to.
The cake business wasn’t the issue. This is pushed as a means to suggest the poor thing was so badly treated . The cake didn’t bring him down it was all the other stuff happening under his watch .
Starmer knowingly appointed a security risk to one of the highest diplomatic posts the nation has an gave him privileged access to classified information. Mandelson literally sold state secrets to Epstein and has a lot of dodgy links to China and Russia. That is an unforgiving lapse in judgement. Boris being ambushed with cake pales in comparison to the amount of damage someone like Mandelson has done and could continue to do in the position he was appointed to.
The cake business wasn’t the issue. This is pushed as a means to suggest the poor thing was so badly treated . The cake didn’t bring him down it was all the other stuff happening under his watch .
It was ignoring a sexual assault and getting his Ministers to go out and actively defend that decision that finally brought Johnson down.
Do you think Starmer wont stand in the end? Wonder if he tries to do a deal to get foreign sec, the bit of the PM job je seems to enjoy.
That wouldn’t work . You can’t have an ex PM in cabinet so soon after being pushed out and I doubt Starmer would even want it . Cameron came back after many years and wasn’t appointed by a PM who had shafted him .
Starmer knowingly appointed a security risk to one of the highest diplomatic posts the nation has an gave him privileged access to classified information. Mandelson literally sold state secrets to Epstein and has a lot of dodgy links to China and Russia. That is an unforgiving lapse in judgement. Boris being ambushed with cake pales in comparison to the amount of damage someone like Mandelson has done and could continue to do in the position he was appointed to.
The cake business wasn’t the issue. This is pushed as a means to suggest the poor thing was so badly treated . The cake didn’t bring him down it was all the other stuff happening under his watch .
But the point is that Boris didn't actually go to any of those parties, at least that's what was discovered from actual evidence. The only thing that happened when Boris was actually there was the cake thing. And even then Boris actually resigned. So you know he took accountability for that. When has Starmer taken accountability for his failures?
I think a great leader of the opposition should have a plan for governing. One that doesn't involve turning the country into an impoverished Stalinist hellscape I mean.
This is something that has got my goat about the resignations of Wes Streeting and Jess Phillips. Commentators have been saying 'Ooooh, they pulled no punches' - but they did. They pulled the punch of what different policies they think should have been pursued. It was their own version of the ming vase. Both their critiques left room for any policies they care to dream up. That's not good enough any more.
On a similar note, I find it very annoying when commentators insist, "People need to feeeeel better off" - as if we need to give the electorate some shiny lego coins or put prozac in the drinking water. People don't 'feel' poorer, they are poorer. Money doesn't 'feel like' it's all going to the Treasury and the big corporations, it is. Energy is a good example - we used to pay for coal and gas generation, a little above wholesale prices, and mainly British energy companies made good profits for mainly British shareholders. Now we have Net Zero, and it's a profit feeding frenzy for the world's pension funds, and the poor are paying for it. Anyone who tries to deal with it is going to need to be brave and resourceful, because you have effectively to take money away from the powerful and well-resourced (not in tax but in opportunity cost) and give it back to taxpayers. And they will use every smear and connivance to retain those profits.
If you want an example of a vacuous prospectus, here is the article in the New Statesman from Al Carns from a few days ago (£)
I don't doubt it. His voting and speaking record is one of a useless supine timeserver. It was always highly unlikely there was any light under the bushel.
On a human level I thought Starmer looked forlorn, even haunted today, and I did feel a bit for him
But politics is politics and he simply is not suited to be PM
Curiously, I had said exactly the same before I read your post. Yesterday morning he was full of vim ready to take on all comers with all the advantages of office. But, firstly with Wes and then with Burnham’s moves, it all fizzled away. He has weeks left as PM but the power has gone already. He cuts a sorry figure. If he wasn’t such a shit I would feel sorry for him.
Where’s that vitriol come from? Disagree with his politics, lament his ineptitude, but a bit like Theresa May I don’t think he’s an unnecessarily cruel individual.
The internet is a pretty nasty place sometimes and I think that is influencing how people feel about Starmer. Frankly if he did possess the kind of malice people suggest then he might have been a much better PM.
I can't forgive him for attempting to bring in compulsory digital ID.
Starmer knowingly appointed a security risk to one of the highest diplomatic posts the nation has an gave him privileged access to classified information. Mandelson literally sold state secrets to Epstein and has a lot of dodgy links to China and Russia. That is an unforgiving lapse in judgement. Boris being ambushed with cake pales in comparison to the amount of damage someone like Mandelson has done and could continue to do in the position he was appointed to.
The cake business wasn’t the issue. This is pushed as a means to suggest the poor thing was so badly treated . The cake didn’t bring him down it was all the other stuff happening under his watch .
But the point is that Boris didn't actually go to any of those parties, at least that's what was discovered from actual evidence. The only thing that happened when Boris was actually there was the cake thing. And even then Boris actually resigned. So you know he took accountability for that. When has Starmer taken accountability for his failures?
I’m not defending Starmer but I just don’t hate him. I loathe Johnson for a variety of reasons and he was a national embarrassment. Sunak I thought was pretty decent , May believed in public service , the less said about Truss the better!
Makerfield. Restore Britain is holding a local branch meeting in the area tonight, and a decision on our next steps will be taken over the weekend.
The mood with the membership locally is that we are very much up for a fight.
What I find hilarious is how ridiculously short Rupert Lowe is for next PM.
He was 75/1 last time I checked. Which was 3 times more likely than Rachel Reeves.
If Farage has to stand down as leader of Reform for some reason before the next election, I wouldn't be surprised if Lowe someone becomes the new leader of the party, with a merger taking place between Reform and Restore.
A lot of people are assuming that because Burnham is so popular in Greater Manchester that that popularity would extend to the rest of the country. That's a big assumption to make imo.
Reform are running buses full of supporters from as many counties as possible up to Makerfield for this weekend, and have hired hotels all over the area. Labour's operation also well underway.
Makerfield. Restore Britain is holding a local branch meeting in the area tonight, and a decision on our next steps will be taken over the weekend.
The mood with the membership locally is that we are very much up for a fight.
What I find hilarious is how ridiculously short Rupert Lowe is for next PM.
He was 75/1 last time I checked. Which was 3 times more likely than Rachel Reeves.
If Farage has to stand down as leader of Reform for some reason before the next election, I wouldn't be surprised if Lowe someone becomes the new leader of the party, with a merger taking place between Reform and Restore.
Starmer knowingly appointed a security risk to one of the highest diplomatic posts the nation has an gave him privileged access to classified information. Mandelson literally sold state secrets to Epstein and has a lot of dodgy links to China and Russia. That is an unforgiving lapse in judgement. Boris being ambushed with cake pales in comparison to the amount of damage someone like Mandelson has done and could continue to do in the position he was appointed to.
The cake business wasn’t the issue. This is pushed as a means to suggest the poor thing was so badly treated . The cake didn’t bring him down it was all the other stuff happening under his watch .
But the point is that Boris didn't actually go to any of those parties, at least that's what was discovered from actual evidence. The only thing that happened when Boris was actually there was the cake thing. And even then Boris actually resigned. So you know he took accountability for that. When has Starmer taken accountability for his failures?
There was a photo of Johnson with drink in hand at one of the parties. I don't know why people continue to make excuses for him.
On a human level I thought Starmer looked forlorn, even haunted today, and I did feel a bit for him
But politics is politics and he simply is not suited to be PM
Curiously, I had said exactly the same before I read your post. Yesterday morning he was full of vim ready to take on all comers with all the advantages of office. But, firstly with Wes and then with Burnham’s moves, it all fizzled away. He has weeks left as PM but the power has gone already. He cuts a sorry figure. If he wasn’t such a shit I would feel sorry for him.
Where’s that vitriol come from? Disagree with his politics, lament his ineptitude, but a bit like Theresa May I don’t think he’s an unnecessarily cruel individual.
The internet is a pretty nasty place sometimes and I think that is influencing how people feel about Starmer. Frankly if he did possess the kind of malice people suggest then he might have been a much better PM.
I can't forgive him for attempting to bring in compulsory digital ID.
And that fitted into a wider pattern of actions and attempts (eg trial by jury) that was and is deeply sinister. People who can't see it don't want to.
A lot of people are assuming that because Burnham is so popular in Greater Manchester that that popularity would extend to the rest of the country. That's a big assumption to make imo.
Has some polling evidence for it, Yougov this month gives Burnham a +15% rating in the North, +12% in Wales, +5% in the Midlands, + 5% in London and +2% in Scotland. He is only viewed negatively in the South but even then only at -5%
Starmer knowingly appointed a security risk to one of the highest diplomatic posts the nation has an gave him privileged access to classified information. Mandelson literally sold state secrets to Epstein and has a lot of dodgy links to China and Russia. That is an unforgiving lapse in judgement. Boris being ambushed with cake pales in comparison to the amount of damage someone like Mandelson has done and could continue to do in the position he was appointed to.
The cake business wasn’t the issue. This is pushed as a means to suggest the poor thing was so badly treated . The cake didn’t bring him down it was all the other stuff happening under his watch .
But the point is that Boris didn't actually go to any of those parties, at least that's what was discovered from actual evidence. The only thing that happened when Boris was actually there was the cake thing. And even then Boris actually resigned. So you know he took accountability for that. When has Starmer taken accountability for his failures?
There was a photo of Johnson with drink in hand at one of the parties. I don't know why people continue to make excuses for him.
There were also photos of Starmer with a bottle of beer in hand at his curry eating event.
A lot of people are assuming that because Burnham is so popular in Greater Manchester that that popularity would extend to the rest of the country. That's a big assumption to make imo.
What matters is that he's popular in the Labour party, presumably.
Reform are running buses full of supporters from as many counties as possible up to Makerfield for this weekend, and have hired hotels all over the area. Labour's operation also well underway.
Will Sir Keir be campaigning for the labour candidate in this by-election?
Reform are running buses full of supporters from as many counties as possible up to Makerfield for this weekend, and have hired hotels all over the area. Labour's operation also well underway.
Will Sir Keir be campaining for the labour candidate in this by-election?
No, as he wants to blame any defeat on the Burnham!
Reform are running buses full of supporters from as many counties as possible up to Makerfield for this weekend, and have hired hotels all over the area. Labour's operation also well underway.
Hiring hotels and those buses count as an election expense and the election has started so all this spending is part of the £180,050 that Reform can spend in total
Reform are running buses full of supporters from as many counties as possible up to Makerfield for this weekend, and have hired hotels all over the area. Labour's operation also well underway.
Hiring hotels and those buses count as an election expense and the election has started so all this spending is part of the £180,050 that Reform can spend in total
'Obviously hypothetical polling has to be taken with a pinch of salt but back in January we found that Burnham was worth roughly ~5 extra points to Labour nationally compared to the VI at the time...Perhaps more interesting where are the 5 points coming from. In particular from Labour voters who have moved to don't know - disillusioned progressives, but also the Liberal Democrats, Greens and a smaller chunk from the right.'
Starmer knowingly appointed a security risk to one of the highest diplomatic posts the nation has an gave him privileged access to classified information. Mandelson literally sold state secrets to Epstein and has a lot of dodgy links to China and Russia. That is an unforgiving lapse in judgement. Boris being ambushed with cake pales in comparison to the amount of damage someone like Mandelson has done and could continue to do in the position he was appointed to.
The cake business wasn’t the issue. This is pushed as a means to suggest the poor thing was so badly treated . The cake didn’t bring him down it was all the other stuff happening under his watch .
"My policy on cake is still pro having it and pro eating it!" - Boris, 2008.
Reform are running buses full of supporters from as many counties as possible up to Makerfield for this weekend, and have hired hotels all over the area. Labour's operation also well underway.
Will Sir Keir be campaining for the labour candidate in this by-election?
No, as he wants to blame any defeat on the Burnham!
So the Burnhamster has to overcome external and internal opposition. The odds must be stacked against him
Reform are running buses full of supporters from as many counties as possible up to Makerfield for this weekend, and have hired hotels all over the area. Labour's operation also well underway.
Hiring hotels and those buses count as an election expense and the election has started so all this spending is part of the £180,050 that Reform can spend in total
You don't know the price of a hotel in Hindley Green.
Reform are running buses full of supporters from as many counties as possible up to Makerfield for this weekend, and have hired hotels all over the area. Labour's operation also well underway.
Hiring hotels and those buses count as an election expense and the election has started so all this spending is part of the £180,050 that Reform can spend in total
Presumably the election period hasn’t officially started yet.
Starmer knowingly appointed a security risk to one of the highest diplomatic posts the nation has an gave him privileged access to classified information. Mandelson literally sold state secrets to Epstein and has a lot of dodgy links to China and Russia. That is an unforgiving lapse in judgement. Boris being ambushed with cake pales in comparison to the amount of damage someone like Mandelson has done and could continue to do in the position he was appointed to.
The cake business wasn’t the issue. This is pushed as a means to suggest the poor thing was so badly treated . The cake didn’t bring him down it was all the other stuff happening under his watch .
But the point is that Boris didn't actually go to any of those parties, at least that's what was discovered from actual evidence. The only thing that happened when Boris was actually there was the cake thing. And even then Boris actually resigned. So you know he took accountability for that. When has Starmer taken accountability for his failures?
There was a photo of Johnson with drink in hand at one of the parties. I don't know why people continue to make excuses for him.
As far as I know, there is no law against having a drink at work. I was always surprised that a greater challenge wasn't made on the grounds that No 10 staff had to work from the office.
Starmer knowingly appointed a security risk to one of the highest diplomatic posts the nation has an gave him privileged access to classified information. Mandelson literally sold state secrets to Epstein and has a lot of dodgy links to China and Russia. That is an unforgiving lapse in judgement. Boris being ambushed with cake pales in comparison to the amount of damage someone like Mandelson has done and could continue to do in the position he was appointed to.
The cake business wasn’t the issue. This is pushed as a means to suggest the poor thing was so badly treated . The cake didn’t bring him down it was all the other stuff happening under his watch .
"My policy on cake is still pro having it and pro eating it!" - Boris, 2008.
The soundest policy program of the UK government in recent decades.
'John McDonnell has told @cathynewman he hopes Andy Burnham reinstates Jeremy Corbyn as a Labour MP and he’d “raise it with him” personally. @TimesRadio'
Makerfield. Restore Britain is holding a local branch meeting in the area tonight, and a decision on our next steps will be taken over the weekend.
The mood with the membership locally is that we are very much up for a fight.
What I find hilarious is how ridiculously short Rupert Lowe is for next PM.
He was 75/1 last time I checked. Which was 3 times more likely than Rachel Reeves.
I managed to lay him at 26 and a bit more at 46. Laying him down to the level of your biggest other red name is free money. I assume some friend of him is backing him to try and boost his profile?
Starmer knowingly appointed a security risk to one of the highest diplomatic posts the nation has an gave him privileged access to classified information. Mandelson literally sold state secrets to Epstein and has a lot of dodgy links to China and Russia. That is an unforgiving lapse in judgement. Boris being ambushed with cake pales in comparison to the amount of damage someone like Mandelson has done and could continue to do in the position he was appointed to.
The cake business wasn’t the issue. This is pushed as a means to suggest the poor thing was so badly treated . The cake didn’t bring him down it was all the other stuff happening under his watch .
But the point is that Boris didn't actually go to any of those parties, at least that's what was discovered from actual evidence. The only thing that happened when Boris was actually there was the cake thing. And even then Boris actually resigned. So you know he took accountability for that. When has Starmer taken accountability for his failures?
There was a photo of Johnson with drink in hand at one of the parties. I don't know why people continue to make excuses for him.
There were also photos of Starmer with a bottle of beer in hand at his curry eating event.
Different rules applied at the time of Starmer's curry and it was Johnson who wrote the rules not Starmer.
Reform are running buses full of supporters from as many counties as possible up to Makerfield for this weekend, and have hired hotels all over the area. Labour's operation also well underway.
Hiring hotels and those buses count as an election expense and the election has started so all this spending is part of the £180,050 that Reform can spend in total
Presumably the election period hasn’t officially started yet.
The rules say
You will become a candidate on this date if you or others have already announced your intention to stand.5 For example, your party may have issued a press release when you were selected, you might have mentioned your intention at a residents’ meeting, or you may have already begun campaigning.
I think you could argue that the election is on now the date has been announced.
Reform are running buses full of supporters from as many counties as possible up to Makerfield for this weekend, and have hired hotels all over the area. Labour's operation also well underway.
Dangerous; if parties incur those expenses, as distinct from motivated activists, they count as election costs
Reform are running buses full of supporters from as many counties as possible up to Makerfield for this weekend, and have hired hotels all over the area. Labour's operation also well underway.
Hiring hotels and those buses count as an election expense and the election has started so all this spending is part of the £180,050 that Reform can spend in total
The Electoral Commission claims the earliest you can become a candidate is the day a vacancy occurs. As Simons's has not taken the Hundreds/Northstead they may argue that it's outside the period. I'm sure the court case will be tedious and well reported.
A lot of people are assuming that because Burnham is so popular in Greater Manchester that that popularity would extend to the rest of the country. That's a big assumption to make imo.
Has some polling evidence for it, Yougov this month gives Burnham a +15% rating in the North, +12% in Wales, +5% in the Midlands, + 5% in London and +2% in Scotland. He is only viewed negatively in the South but even then only at -5%
Reform are running buses full of supporters from as many counties as possible up to Makerfield for this weekend, and have hired hotels all over the area. Labour's operation also well underway.
Hiring hotels and those buses count as an election expense and the election has started so all this spending is part of the £180,050 that Reform can spend in total
Presumably the election period hasn’t officially started yet.
The hotels presumably aren’t all for tonight, and you can’t avoid election expenses by paying for stuff in advance!
Do you think Starmer wont stand in the end? Wonder if he tries to do a deal to get foreign sec, the bit of the PM job je seems to enjoy.
That wouldn’t work . You can’t have an ex PM in cabinet so soon after being pushed out and I doubt Starmer would even want it . Cameron came back after many years and wasn’t appointed by a PM who had shafted him .
Former PM Alec Douglas-Home (62-63?) was Foreign Secretary under Heath in the 1970s
The 18th June is the earliest possible date it could have taken place on .
I thought Starmer might have tried to string it out a bit longer .
Did he have the power to block that date?
The Chief Whip moves the writ and does what the PM wants . Of course Starmer is in a much weaker position now but having it a week later I doubt would have caused a major drama .
A lot of people are assuming that because Burnham is so popular in Greater Manchester that that popularity would extend to the rest of the country. That's a big assumption to make imo.
Has some polling evidence for it, Yougov this month gives Burnham a +15% rating in the North, +12% in Wales, +5% in the Midlands, + 5% in London and +2% in Scotland. He is only viewed negatively in the South but even then only at -5%
'John McDonnell has told @cathynewman he hopes Andy Burnham reinstates Jeremy Corbyn as a Labour MP and he’d “raise it with him” personally. @TimesRadio'
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If the saviour from the nw doesn’t meet expectations then Labour are screwed. Even probably worse than if Starmer had remained in charge .
Because now expectations are going through the roof .
If Andy Burnham wins the Makerfield byelection he is required to quit the Manchester Metro Mayor and it will hold an election.
Government has passed legislation to change the mayoral voting system away from FPTP to a proportional system
BUT
The government haven’t passed the necessary secondary legislation to enact this change. So as it’s stands, a mayoral election would be held under FPTP
Charisma free (to me at least)? Check.
Incompetent? TBC.
(((Harry Enten)))
@ForecasterEnten
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The bottom has completely fallen out for Trump with Latino voters.
After winning a record share for a GOP nominee in 2024, just 28% of Latinos approve of Trump now.
The drop with Latino men is even more dramatic. He won em by 10 in 2024. His net approval now is -41 pts!
https://x.com/ForecasterEnten/status/2055333827514613783
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2026/05/how-labour-can-win-again
My summary is here:
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5546792#Comment_5546792
We’ve got another 5 to 6 weeks of this !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Cohen_(politician)
Those obsessed with skin color, rather than character, would be doubly disappointed if an African-American Republican were to win the district.
Makerfield. Restore Britain is holding a local branch meeting in the area tonight, and a decision on our next steps will be taken over the weekend.
The mood with the membership locally is that we are very much up for a fight.
GDP, GDP per capita, real wages etc. The general story is things get slowly better. Energy bills have fallen (albeit they are scheduled to rise later in the year).
He was 75/1 last time I checked. Which was 3 times more likely than Rachel Reeves.
As ye sew so shall ye reap.
I'll be there all that week.
Your man on the spot.
It also solves every other problem the country has.
It’s not a competition though.
Reform are running buses full of supporters from as many counties as possible up to Makerfield for this weekend, and have hired hotels all over the area. Labour's operation also well underway.
Sounds on brand.
https://ygo-assets-websites-editorial-emea.yougov.net/documents/Internal_Favourability_260513.pdf
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/cj0p9pej4z7t
https://x.com/LukeTryl/status/2055266149986619581?s=20
https://x.com/LukeTryl/status/2055266154541711518?s=20
https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2055324253436657815?s=20
@cathynewman
he hopes Andy Burnham reinstates Jeremy Corbyn as a Labour MP and he’d “raise it with him” personally.
@TimesRadio'
https://x.com/glabsandra/status/2055306934123680245?s=20
You will become a candidate on this date if you or others have already announced your intention to stand.5 For example, your party may have issued a press release when you were selected, you might have mentioned your intention at a residents’ meeting, or you may have already begun campaigning.
I think you could argue that the election is on now the date has been announced.
Why Everything Changes After You Save £20,000 in the UK?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPZk6t9uK44
So give everyone who has worked for three years £20k.
That would be about £16bn for each year group.
Money to be recouped by reducing access to benefits and ending the triple lock for that year group once they have reached retirement age.
I thought Starmer might have tried to string it out a bit longer .