We are currently producing 112% of our electricity needs, with the excess 12% being sent via connectors or to pumped storage.
Of the 112%, only 7% is gas power. So over 100% renewable or nuclear.
The Irish grid appears to be taking more than a GW from Britain and turning off its own wind turbines.
I'm assuming there's some sort of arbitrage going on whereby it makes sense to do this because the Irish pay wind farms less to turn off when there's excess wind energy.
We have 14 years of coalition and conservative governments to thank for that investment
What Lost Password is describing isn't a good thing for pity's sake. It means effectively that British billpayers are subsidising power that they aren't receiving - because the British subsidy regime is so much more generous than Ireland's, it's cheaper for them to use dumped power, kindly discounted by grannies in the UK, and constrain their own supply.
That isn't something to be celebrated, it's an epic farce.
I mean, sure, but the 'epic farce' subsidy price is much, much lower than what we would pay for gas powered electricity at current prices.
I think your anger is misdirected.
No it is not.
I posted a breakdown of what the various renewable sources are costing us vs. gas last week. Only one type of solar generation was remotely competitive with gas, even with gas at crisis prices. As gas inevitably gets cheaper, even if it's only a bit cheaper, it will be cheaper than CFD solar, and it was already cheaper than all wind.
We cannot maintain the polite fallacy that renewable energy (caveat - renewable energy the way that the UK has implemented it) is cheap or even 'free', when the cost of energy for businesses and domestic users continues to rise. Join the dots.
I'd be interested to see you share again with sources. It's not in line with what I've seen, but always open to new data.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
Curry goat from West Indian food stalls at music festivals is one of my treats, though often a bit bony. Apparently the bones are essential for it to cook properly.
We are currently producing 112% of our electricity needs, with the excess 12% being sent via connectors or to pumped storage.
Of the 112%, only 7% is gas power. So over 100% renewable or nuclear.
The Irish grid appears to be taking more than a GW from Britain and turning off its own wind turbines.
I'm assuming there's some sort of arbitrage going on whereby it makes sense to do this because the Irish pay wind farms less to turn off when there's excess wind energy.
We have 14 years of coalition and conservative governments to thank for that investment
What Lost Password is describing isn't a good thing for pity's sake. It means effectively that British billpayers are subsidising power that they aren't receiving - because the British subsidy regime is so much more generous than Ireland's, it's cheaper for them to use dumped power, kindly discounted by grannies in the UK, and constrain their own supply.
That isn't something to be celebrated, it's an epic farce.
I mean, sure, but the 'epic farce' subsidy price is much, much lower than what we would pay for gas powered electricity at current prices.
I think your anger is misdirected.
No it is not.
I posted a breakdown of what the various renewable sources are costing us vs. gas last week. Only one type of solar generation was remotely competitive with gas, even with gas at crisis prices. As gas inevitably gets cheaper, even if it's only a bit cheaper, it will be cheaper than CFD solar, and it was already cheaper than all wind.
We cannot maintain the polite fallacy that renewable energy (caveat - renewable energy the way that the UK has implemented it) is cheap or even 'free', when the cost of energy for businesses and domestic users continues to rise. Join the dots.
I'd be interested to see you share again with sources. It's not in line with what I've seen, but always open to new data.
It was comparing marginal gas generation cost with renewable total cost including capex. Understandably kinda hard to compare.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
Goat tails point up; sheep tails point down
There are more differences within breeds of sheep and goats than there are between the species
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
Getting a bit paranoid there Pete.
All you Tory posters are ganging up on me! Infamy, infamy, you've all got it infamy.
It has reached a crescendo of right wing rhetoric here, with almost only @Brixian59 flying the flag for the downtrodden lefty.
I honestly cannot tell who most people are planning to vote for anymore - not that people are coy in their opinions, but there's some flying the flag for Badenoch but not that much, a lot of disdain for Keir but also skepticism of Reform and the Greens, and LDs, as is their wont, tend to pootle along not making much of a fuss so it is hard to gauge.
Unless everyone is going PC and SNP there's not that many other options to pick from.
I'm a lot clearer about who I do not want to vote for/vote against.
SNP: no. Reform: hell no. Green: not in this lifetime, if I ever did it might be too late to make Dignitas. People I would vote for:
....
I'll get back to you but probably the most likely to beat the above. It's dismal.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
We are currently producing 112% of our electricity needs, with the excess 12% being sent via connectors or to pumped storage.
Of the 112%, only 7% is gas power. So over 100% renewable or nuclear.
The Irish grid appears to be taking more than a GW from Britain and turning off its own wind turbines.
I'm assuming there's some sort of arbitrage going on whereby it makes sense to do this because the Irish pay wind farms less to turn off when there's excess wind energy.
We have 14 years of coalition and conservative governments to thank for that investment
What Lost Password is describing isn't a good thing for pity's sake. It means effectively that British billpayers are subsidising power that they aren't receiving - because the British subsidy regime is so much more generous than Ireland's, it's cheaper for them to use dumped power, kindly discounted by grannies in the UK, and constrain their own supply.
That isn't something to be celebrated, it's an epic farce.
I mean, sure, but the 'epic farce' subsidy price is much, much lower than what we would pay for gas powered electricity at current prices.
I think your anger is misdirected.
No it is not.
I posted a breakdown of what the various renewable sources are costing us vs. gas last week. Only one type of solar generation was remotely competitive with gas, even with gas at crisis prices. As gas inevitably gets cheaper, even if it's only a bit cheaper, it will be cheaper than CFD solar, and it was already cheaper than all wind.
We cannot maintain the polite fallacy that renewable energy (caveat - renewable energy the way that the UK has implemented it) is cheap or even 'free', when the cost of energy for businesses and domestic users continues to rise. Join the dots.
I'd be interested to see you share again with sources. It's not in line with what I've seen, but always open to new data.
It was comparing marginal gas generation cost with renewable total cost including capex. Understandably kinda hard to compare.
Distros line Ubuntu have come a long long way in recent years, but they can still be far from "they just work". Weird quirks are still ten a penny (have been fighting a couple of my dev machine for 6 months). And you can properly f##k things up rapidly.
Also the compatibilty layers, again come miles, but certain software still won't work or won't work very well.
Mrs Flatlander's shop has been using Ubuntu for well over a decade. I am using it now.
The main issue is not whether software works - as unless you are doing something particularly specialist, there aren't too many holes. I've never had a serious system screw up because I keep any funky development or server stuff in Docker or a VM and keep the platform itself clean. It isn't as if Microsoft hasn't had the odd disaster, in any case.
No, the main issue is when the government use proprietary formats. DEFRA do love an Excel macro or twenty..
They should make sure everything they provide or require are in well documented and free formats. There are other good reasons for this than not forcing people to use proprietary software, not least being able to read their own files in 30 years' time. This is much more important than what OS anyone uses.
Making Tax Digital is of course going to be another insult on this front. I doubt anyone is going to get an open source implementation approved in time...
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
Good to know you’re all right. I knew an old woman who did the same. No longer with us.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Leave @bondegezou out of this. And when have you publicly humiliated me on this site?
The only time I did get very vexed was back in 2005 when that ruffian Thomas was highly critical of my punctuation, particularly my use of the long paragraph.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I've definitely had goat - at least three times in the last six months, there is an excellent stall.selling it in Piccadilly Gardens - but never knowingly had mutton.
Horse isn't that uncommon in Southern Europe. I have had in Italy.
Wasn't part of the whole horse meat scandal was there was a glut of horse meat at the time and it had got much cheaper than beef and so people were slipping it in to the supply chain and before you know all the ready meals made in a mega factory was using it? There wasn't actually any wrong with the meat, it was that it was horse not beef.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
I know. It’s quite odd given the insane foods I have eaten. From rat to bear to whale to tarantula to puffin to ants to maggots to dog
But somehow never goat? And it turns out it’s delish (if cooked right)
We are currently producing 112% of our electricity needs, with the excess 12% being sent via connectors or to pumped storage.
Of the 112%, only 7% is gas power. So over 100% renewable or nuclear.
The Irish grid appears to be taking more than a GW from Britain and turning off its own wind turbines.
I'm assuming there's some sort of arbitrage going on whereby it makes sense to do this because the Irish pay wind farms less to turn off when there's excess wind energy.
We have 14 years of coalition and conservative governments to thank for that investment
What Lost Password is describing isn't a good thing for pity's sake. It means effectively that British billpayers are subsidising power that they aren't receiving - because the British subsidy regime is so much more generous than Ireland's, it's cheaper for them to use dumped power, kindly discounted by grannies in the UK, and constrain their own supply.
That isn't something to be celebrated, it's an epic farce.
I mean, sure, but the 'epic farce' subsidy price is much, much lower than what we would pay for gas powered electricity at current prices.
I think your anger is misdirected.
No it is not.
I posted a breakdown of what the various renewable sources are costing us vs. gas last week. Only one type of solar generation was remotely competitive with gas, even with gas at crisis prices. As gas inevitably gets cheaper, even if it's only a bit cheaper, it will be cheaper than CFD solar, and it was already cheaper than all wind.
We cannot maintain the polite fallacy that renewable energy (caveat - renewable energy the way that the UK has implemented it) is cheap or even 'free', when the cost of energy for businesses and domestic users continues to rise. Join the dots.
I'd be interested to see you share again with sources. It's not in line with what I've seen, but always open to new data.
Note: A discussion ensued about whether David Turver's figures for gas generation included maintance and capex, as this is not pulled out in his table - he comments in the thread under his Substack piece that it is included.
Note 2: The price of gas rose considerably after I made this initial post, but last time I looked it was still cheaper than all others bar CFD solar - and it was at the lower end of that.
Note 3: If you have time, read the comments below Turver's piece where a detailed attempt to rebut his conclusions is made, but the commentor (who is using AI by the way) is forced to admit that their figures only work when carbon taxes are assumed as an inalienable cost of gas. But of course they aren't - they are a policy choice that we don't need to levy and aren't a factor in most of our industrial competitors.
We are currently producing 112% of our electricity needs, with the excess 12% being sent via connectors or to pumped storage.
Of the 112%, only 7% is gas power. So over 100% renewable or nuclear.
Farage and Badenoch read, weep, apologise and go and eat coal.
Its a fun but pointless measure. To know the true value of each contribution you have to look at it over the year. And in that case gas still contributes around a third of our power generation. That is before you take into account home gas usage. There were a few days in 2025 where renewables contributed as low as 10% of power generation.
We need better ways to bridge that gap but we don't have it yet. Hopefully it is coming.
What's the clincher going to be
Battery storage??
Or some other form of energy conversion. We need a way to convert excess wind and solar energy into potential energy for later conversion back to electricity. I honestly don't think batteries are the answer but as yet I don't have a better solution. One suggestion was big weights on chains on offshore turbines. As they generate electricity the pull the weights up then, when the wind dies the weights are released and generate the power. I have absolutely no idea if this is feasible but it sounds like a good idea.
There's some amazing advances going on with solid state batteries right now.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
Do you remember the Les Routier menus in France pre the Euro. Three courses and a carafe of red wine for 10f. The main being unnamed red meat. The truckers loved it, particularly the carafe of red wine*.
Horse isn't that uncommon in Southern Europe. I have had in Italy.
Wasn't part of the whole horse meat scandal was there was a glut of horse meat at the time and it had got much cheaper than beef and so people were slipping it in to the supply chain and before you know all the ready meals made in a mega factory was using it? There wasn't actually any wrong with the meat, it was that it was horse not beef.
Trigger warning: Kamala Harris is married to a wealthy entertainment lawyer. Who is Jewish.
She had a brief affair with Willie Brown, who was separated from his wife at the time. Who rewarded her:
In 1994, Speaker of the California Assembly Willie Brown, who was then dating Harris, appointed her to the state Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board and later to the California Medical Assistance Commission
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
Horse isn't that uncommon in Southern Europe. I have had in Italy.
Wasn't part of the whole horse meat scandal was there was a glut of horse meat at the time and it had got much cheaper than beef and so people were slipping it in to the supply chain and before you know all the ready meals made in a mega factory was using it? There wasn't actually any wrong with the meat, it was that it was horse not beef.
Nah, chopped up cart horses. Which are allowed to take medicines meat horses aren't.
(Apparently the glut was in part due to a new rule in Romania which said horses and carts weren't allowed on main roads anymore. So a whole generation of small farmers had to buy pick-ups and no longer needed a horse, or as many horses.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
Not surprised, but why was the conference so short tempered?
Horse isn't that uncommon in Southern Europe. I have had in Italy.
Wasn't part of the whole horse meat scandal was there was a glut of horse meat at the time and it had got much cheaper than beef and so people were slipping it in to the supply chain and before you know all the ready meals made in a mega factory was using it? There wasn't actually any wrong with the meat, it was that it was horse not beef.
The meat contained horse tranquilisers.
I think that was just in a few cases. Most of it was found to be fine. Wasn't it also actually not just horse that was being slipping in, it was pork as well.
We are currently producing 112% of our electricity needs, with the excess 12% being sent via connectors or to pumped storage.
Of the 112%, only 7% is gas power. So over 100% renewable or nuclear.
The Irish grid appears to be taking more than a GW from Britain and turning off its own wind turbines.
I'm assuming there's some sort of arbitrage going on whereby it makes sense to do this because the Irish pay wind farms less to turn off when there's excess wind energy.
We have 14 years of coalition and conservative governments to thank for that investment
What Lost Password is describing isn't a good thing for pity's sake. It means effectively that British billpayers are subsidising power that they aren't receiving - because the British subsidy regime is so much more generous than Ireland's, it's cheaper for them to use dumped power, kindly discounted by grannies in the UK, and constrain their own supply.
That isn't something to be celebrated, it's an epic farce.
I mean, sure, but the 'epic farce' subsidy price is much, much lower than what we would pay for gas powered electricity at current prices.
I think your anger is misdirected.
No it is not.
I posted a breakdown of what the various renewable sources are costing us vs. gas last week. Only one type of solar generation was remotely competitive with gas, even with gas at crisis prices. As gas inevitably gets cheaper, even if it's only a bit cheaper, it will be cheaper than CFD solar, and it was already cheaper than all wind.
We cannot maintain the polite fallacy that renewable energy (caveat - renewable energy the way that the UK has implemented it) is cheap or even 'free', when the cost of energy for businesses and domestic users continues to rise. Join the dots.
I'd be interested to see you share again with sources. It's not in line with what I've seen, but always open to new data.
Note: A discussion ensued about whether David Turver's figures for gas generation included maintance and capex, as this is not pulled out in his table - he comments in the thread under his Substack piece that it is included.
Note 2: The price of gas rose considerably after I made this initial post, but last time I looked it was still cheaper than all others bar CFD solar - and it was at the lower end of that.
Note 3: If you have time, read the comments below Turver's piece where a detailed attempt to rebut his conclusions is made, but the commentor (who is using AI by the way) is forced to admit that their figures only work when carbon taxes are assumed as an inalienable cost of gas. But of course they aren't - they are a policy choice that we don't need to levy and aren't a factor in most of our industrial competitors.
My admittedly non expert take on this "analysis". It looks to be nonsense based on what I do know
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
Not surprised, but why was the conference so short tempered?
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
I know. It’s quite odd given the insane foods I have eaten. From rat to bear to whale to tarantula to puffin to ants to maggots to dog
But somehow never goat? And it turns out it’s delish (if cooked right)
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
Not surprised, but why was the conference so short tempered?
They wanted goat.
The speakers were exceptionally gruff, especially to the hapless Troll.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
Do you remember the Les Routier menus in France pre the Euro. Three courses and a carafe of red wine for 10f. The main being unnamed red meat. The truckers loved it, particularly the carafe of red wine*.
* It might have been half a carafe.
I remember French holidays aged 8 where my mum was obsessed with going to Les Routiers restaurants. None stick in my mind so I don’t believe they were really anything special. But then my mum was a pretty good cook so I had fairly high standards
What I do remember is my first introduction to excellent French patisseries. Again I was about eight. It was a chocolate eclair bought and eaten in Collioure. Omg. It was possibly the loveliest thing I’d ever eaten up to that point in my life
I kind of miss that revelation about French food. Now it is just generally nice food with flaws - British is often better and certainly more inventive. So there isn’t that excitement when you cross the channel
Many of the very worst meals I’ve had in the last 10 years have been in France
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
We are currently producing 112% of our electricity needs, with the excess 12% being sent via connectors or to pumped storage.
Of the 112%, only 7% is gas power. So over 100% renewable or nuclear.
The Irish grid appears to be taking more than a GW from Britain and turning off its own wind turbines.
I'm assuming there's some sort of arbitrage going on whereby it makes sense to do this because the Irish pay wind farms less to turn off when there's excess wind energy.
We have 14 years of coalition and conservative governments to thank for that investment
What Lost Password is describing isn't a good thing for pity's sake. It means effectively that British billpayers are subsidising power that they aren't receiving - because the British subsidy regime is so much more generous than Ireland's, it's cheaper for them to use dumped power, kindly discounted by grannies in the UK, and constrain their own supply.
That isn't something to be celebrated, it's an epic farce.
I mean, sure, but the 'epic farce' subsidy price is much, much lower than what we would pay for gas powered electricity at current prices.
I think your anger is misdirected.
No it is not.
I posted a breakdown of what the various renewable sources are costing us vs. gas last week. Only one type of solar generation was remotely competitive with gas, even with gas at crisis prices. As gas inevitably gets cheaper, even if it's only a bit cheaper, it will be cheaper than CFD solar, and it was already cheaper than all wind.
We cannot maintain the polite fallacy that renewable energy (caveat - renewable energy the way that the UK has implemented it) is cheap or even 'free', when the cost of energy for businesses and domestic users continues to rise. Join the dots.
I'd be interested to see you share again with sources. It's not in line with what I've seen, but always open to new data.
Note: A discussion ensued about whether David Turver's figures for gas generation included maintance and capex, as this is not pulled out in his table - he comments in the thread under his Substack piece that it is included.
Note 2: The price of gas rose considerably after I made this initial post, but last time I looked it was still cheaper than all others bar CFD solar - and it was at the lower end of that.
Note 3: If you have time, read the comments below Turver's piece where a detailed attempt to rebut his conclusions is made, but the commentor (who is using AI by the way) is forced to admit that their figures only work when carbon taxes are assumed as an inalienable cost of gas. But of course they aren't - they are a policy choice that we don't need to levy and aren't a factor in most of our industrial competitors.
Carbon taxes or ETS charges are currently levied by all 27 EU member states, China, Japan, Korea, Canada and various other countries. Most of our industrial peers in other words. China’s recalcitrant ETS regime is being significantly reformed this year bringing it close to EU levels.
If by “most of our industrial competitors” you mean the USA then, well, yes. Thankfully the world economy isn’t just the US or we’d be more fucked than we already are.
The US would love to think it’s immune from the externalities it’s imposing on the world, but it certainly isn’t. Rather like its assumptions about the Hormuz blockage.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
Good to know you’re all right. I knew an old woman who did the same. No longer with us.
I ate horse once in a cheap Paris student canteen. It was sweet and fibrous. A bit like an over cooked lamb shank.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
I love andouilettes with chips and mustard. Proper peasant food. The very very basic ingredients keep it honest. Eat it with rough red wine after a long walk through the countryside near, say, Lille or maybe Clermont Ferrand
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
My son posted a picture of himself on a horse somewhere near Almaty today. Riding rather than dinner, I think, but I’ll quiz him on the cuisine.
He’s about to set off on a trip which he's keeping secret from us but says we’ll find interesting, and can follow on find-my iPhone. I know it’s not Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan or Tajikistan as that’s happening later, and not the Aral Sea as that was already planned, so I’m intrigued. I’m wondering if it’s a trip across the border to Xinjiang. Or he’s somehow got a visa for Turkmenistan.
We are currently producing 112% of our electricity needs, with the excess 12% being sent via connectors or to pumped storage.
Of the 112%, only 7% is gas power. So over 100% renewable or nuclear.
Farage and Badenoch read, weep, apologise and go and eat coal.
Its a fun but pointless measure. To know the true value of each contribution you have to look at it over the year. And in that case gas still contributes around a third of our power generation. That is before you take into account home gas usage. There were a few days in 2025 where renewables contributed as low as 10% of power generation.
We need better ways to bridge that gap but we don't have it yet. Hopefully it is coming.
What's the clincher going to be
Battery storage??
Or some other form of energy conversion. We need a way to convert excess wind and solar energy into potential energy for later conversion back to electricity. I honestly don't think batteries are the answer but as yet I don't have a better solution. One suggestion was big weights on chains on offshore turbines. As they generate electricity the pull the weights up then, when the wind dies the weights are released and generate the power. I have absolutely no idea if this is feasible but it sounds like a good idea.
There's some amazing advances going on with solid state batteries right now.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
I know. It’s quite odd given the insane foods I have eaten. From rat to bear to whale to tarantula to puffin to ants to maggots to dog
But somehow never goat? And it turns out it’s delish (if cooked right)
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
I know. It’s quite odd given the insane foods I have eaten. From rat to bear to whale to tarantula to puffin to ants to maggots to dog
But somehow never goat? And it turns out it’s delish (if cooked right)
Beaver is also surprisingly tasty.
Did you ever eat at Archipelago?
Pretty sure its been illegal to eat beaver in the UK since at least 2019 when they were given protected species status. There are some very close to my daughter's house. The damage they do to trees etc is really quite astonishing but their dams are very impressive.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
My son posted a picture of himself on a horse somewhere near Almaty today. Riding rather than dinner, I think, but I’ll quiz him on the cuisine.
He’s about to set off on a trip which he's keeping secret from us but says we’ll find interesting, and can follow on find-my iPhone. I know it’s not Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan or Tajikistan as that’s happening later, and not the Aral Sea as that was already planned, so I’m intrigued. I’m wondering if it’s a trip across the border to Xinjiang. Or he’s somehow got a visa for Turkmenistan.
The fermented mare's milk is as bad as it sounds according to Fox jr2
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
I love andouilettes with chips and mustard. Proper peasant food. The very very basic ingredients keep it honest. Eat it with rough red wine after a long walk through the countryside near, say, Lille or maybe Clermont Ferrand
One is tempted sometimes to wonder whether the peasants didn't have the best food.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
Do you remember the Les Routier menus in France pre the Euro. Three courses and a carafe of red wine for 10f. The main being unnamed red meat. The truckers loved it, particularly the carafe of red wine*.
* It might have been half a carafe.
I remember French holidays aged 8 where my mum was obsessed with going to Les Routiers restaurants. None stick in my mind so I don’t believe they were really anything special. But then my mum was a pretty good cook so I had fairly high standards
What I do remember is my first introduction to excellent French patisseries. Again I was about eight. It was a chocolate eclair bought and eaten in Collioure. Omg. It was possibly the loveliest thing I’d ever eaten up to that point in my life
I kind of miss that revelation about French food. Now it is just generally nice food with flaws - British is often better and certainly more inventive. So there isn’t that excitement when you cross the channel
Many of the very worst meals I’ve had in the last 10 years have been in France
I remember in the 80s going into an empty restaurant in some nondescript village in the middle of France, choosing a lunch from the menu, only to presented with "Non. C'est réservé aux routiers".
The only meal la patronne was prepared to offer was a simple goats cheese salad, which we ordered. Needless to say it was out of this world - we have tried to recreate it many times and never quite succeeded.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
I know. It’s quite odd given the insane foods I have eaten. From rat to bear to whale to tarantula to puffin to ants to maggots to dog
But somehow never goat? And it turns out it’s delish (if cooked right)
Beaver is also surprisingly tasty.
Did you ever eat at Archipelago?
Pretty sure its been illegal to eat beaver in the UK since at least 2019 when they were given protected species status. There are some very close to my daughter's house. The damage they do to trees etc is really quite astonishing but their dams are very impressive.
Apparently the government are proposing to make it illegal to even show a VIDEO of eating beaver
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
My son posted a picture of himself on a horse somewhere near Almaty today. Riding rather than dinner, I think, but I’ll quiz him on the cuisine.
He’s about to set off on a trip which he's keeping secret from us but says we’ll find interesting, and can follow on find-my iPhone. I know it’s not Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan or Tajikistan as that’s happening later, and not the Aral Sea as that was already planned, so I’m intrigued. I’m wondering if it’s a trip across the border to Xinjiang. Or he’s somehow got a visa for Turkmenistan.
The fermented mare's milk is as bad as it sounds according to Fox jr2
Probably a superfood though, packed with friendly bacteria and/or antioxidants.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
I'm a bit shocked you have never had goat before, especially with your travels. I have had goat curry numerous times just in the UK. Horse also several times, but only in France (where I am currently).
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
I love andouilettes with chips and mustard. Proper peasant food. The very very basic ingredients keep it honest. Eat it with rough red wine after a long walk through the countryside near, say, Lille or maybe Clermont Ferrand
One is tempted sometimes to wonder whether the peasants didn't have the best food.
Not andouillettes though. I’ve tried and tried, honestly, and the first mouthful or two is ok, but the stale urine hum builds and builds in the back of the nasal passage until it’s just too much.
Distros line Ubuntu have come a long long way in recent years, but they can still be far from "they just work". Weird quirks are still ten a penny (have been fighting a couple of my dev machine for 6 months). And you can properly f##k things up rapidly.
Also the compatibilty layers, again come miles, but certain software still won't work or won't work very well.
Mrs Flatlander's shop has been using Ubuntu for well over a decade. I am using it now.
The main issue is not whether software works - as unless you are doing something particularly specialist, there aren't too many holes. I've never had a serious system screw up because I keep any funky development or server stuff in Docker or a VM and keep the platform itself clean. It isn't as if Microsoft hasn't had the odd disaster, in any case.
No, the main issue is when the government use proprietary formats. DEFRA do love an Excel macro or twenty..
They should make sure everything they provide or require are in well documented and free formats. There are other good reasons for this than not forcing people to use proprietary software, not least being able to read their own files in 30 years' time. This is much more important than what OS anyone uses.
Making Tax Digital is of course going to be another insult on this front. I doubt anyone is going to get an open source implementation approved in time...
If only someone had made a pitch for Excel’s throne.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
In Oldham in the early 50s, there were more tripe shops than fish and chips shops. Black pepper and lots of vinegar. Chew and chew and then a big swallow.
Huge day in European politics tomorrow as Hungary goes to the polls.
Massively important.
The external ideological lens probably distorts what is going on. If Magyar wins, it will be more of a changing of the guard to a younger generation and will provide a boost to the European right overall.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
My son posted a picture of himself on a horse somewhere near Almaty today. Riding rather than dinner, I think, but I’ll quiz him on the cuisine.
He’s about to set off on a trip which he's keeping secret from us but says we’ll find interesting, and can follow on find-my iPhone. I know it’s not Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan or Tajikistan as that’s happening later, and not the Aral Sea as that was already planned, so I’m intrigued. I’m wondering if it’s a trip across the border to Xinjiang. Or he’s somehow got a visa for Turkmenistan.
The fermented mare's milk is as bad as it sounds according to Fox jr2
I had just a sip and yeeeeeuchh
Not as bad as the beer I had in Iquitos in the Amazon jungle which was literally made by old women chewing maize then spitting it into a bucket, with the enzymes in the old lady’s spit speeding the fermentation process
Old Lady Spit Beer
I might open a pop up in Borough Market. Serve it with dog
Huge day in European politics tomorrow as Hungary goes to the polls.
Massively important.
The external ideological lens probably distorts what is going on. If Magyar wins, it will be more of a changing of the guard to a younger generation and will provide a boost to the European right overall.
Who cares about the European left and right in this context? Orban is a Russian agent on the inside of the EU. That’s all that matters.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I've definitely had goat - at least three times in the last six months, there is an excellent stall.selling it in Piccadilly Gardens - but never knowingly had mutton.
You’ve never had mutton! You’ve missed a treat if it’s cooked long and slow. Your nearest halal butcher will probably sell it.
@Richard_Tyndall I thought we could heat something up to a very high temperature and store the energy that way
All the technologies exist and are proven. It’s just about economics now: if someone can make a profit in storage they’ll invest. Sometimes that needs a nudge from government, as China and solar demonstrate.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
I love andouilettes with chips and mustard. Proper peasant food. The very very basic ingredients keep it honest. Eat it with rough red wine after a long walk through the countryside near, say, Lille or maybe Clermont Ferrand
One is tempted sometimes to wonder whether the peasants didn't have the best food.
Agree with you and Leon. For instance a basic red wine, cheese and bread and fruit is a lovely meal
I had kidney and pancreas tonight. Enjoyed it, but I struggle to finish it as it is so rich.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
I love andouilettes with chips and mustard. Proper peasant food. The very very basic ingredients keep it honest. Eat it with rough red wine after a long walk through the countryside near, say, Lille or maybe Clermont Ferrand
One is tempted sometimes to wonder whether the peasants didn't have the best food.
Not andouillettes though. I’ve tried and tried, honestly, and the first mouthful or two is ok, but the stale urine hum builds and builds in the back of the nasal passage until it’s just too much.
Tsk. Snowflake. The tang of urine is the whole POINT
Huge day in European politics tomorrow as Hungary goes to the polls.
Massively important.
The external ideological lens probably distorts what is going on. If Magyar wins, it will be more of a changing of the guard to a younger generation and will provide a boost to the European right overall.
It does seem a bit like Restore vanquishing a Reform Government because Reform are far too liberally minded.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
I love andouilettes with chips and mustard. Proper peasant food. The very very basic ingredients keep it honest. Eat it with rough red wine after a long walk through the countryside near, say, Lille or maybe Clermont Ferrand
One is tempted sometimes to wonder whether the peasants didn't have the best food.
Not andouillettes though. I’ve tried and tried, honestly, and the first mouthful or two is ok, but the stale urine hum builds and builds in the back of the nasal passage until it’s just too much.
Tsk. Snowflake. The tang of urine is the whole POINT
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I've definitely had goat - at least three times in the last six months, there is an excellent stall.selling it in Piccadilly Gardens - but never knowingly had mutton.
You’ve never had mutton! You’ve missed a treat if it’s cooked long and slow. Your nearest halal butcher will probably sell it.
Some farm shops too. I get it from a local one. There is also a Cumbrian butchers that comes to Jesmond Dene bridge market and sells it.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
In Oldham in the early 50s, there were more tripe shops than fish and chips shops. Black pepper and lots of vinegar. Chew and chew and then a big swallow.
If you go to the Chinese restraunts frequented by Chinese students then it is fairly easy to find tripe. I was treated by one of our Chinese PhD students to a steamboat of lamb vertebrae with tripe cooked in the stock. It has an odd texture but pleasant enough. Chinese seem to quite like the mouthfeel of things that most westerners spit out, like chicken feet or cuttlefish. I guess you have to grow up with it.
NEW. I have interviewed @BorisJohnson on Iran, Ukraine, Trump, NATO, Brexit for @repubblica. Some highlights:
Johnson: “We've all made a big mistake in Europe, as soon as it was clear that Trump had got into a trap in the Gulf, that there was a kind of checkmate in the Straits, we should have realised that Europe should try as much as possible, within reason, to help America and help America get out of the mess. There's no doubt that this is a mess, right? I don't understand how the Pentagon thought they could do this…
“I don't think it was sensible to try to attack Iran in the way that Israel and America did. But I think that now that it has happened, we have to try to help them out of the mess. And I think that instead of saying, “no, no, no, we hate Trump” - you know, all this sort of “this is not our war” - we should have said, look, we will try to help you diplomatically and with what forces we have to reopen the Straits of Hormuz. The NATO Article Two makes clear that you should protect mutual economic interests. We should have said, look, of course, NATO can help to try to get America out of this mess. But you should help us more in Ukraine.”
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
I'm a bit shocked you have never had goat before, especially with your travels. I have had goat curry numerous times just in the UK. Horse also several times, but only in France (where I am currently).
Goat is fantastic.
Oddest meal I had was at my mates. His ex wife is Jamaican. She cooked a pigs tail curry. It wasn’t nice.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I've definitely had goat - at least three times in the last six months, there is an excellent stall.selling it in Piccadilly Gardens - but never knowingly had mutton.
You’ve never had mutton! You’ve missed a treat if it’s cooked long and slow. Your nearest halal butcher will probably sell it.
Some farm shops too. I get it from a local one. There is also a Cumbrian butchers that comes to Jesmond Dene bridge market and sells it.
Do you know if it’s available at Hexham farmers market?
NEW. I have interviewed @BorisJohnson on Iran, Ukraine, Trump, NATO, Brexit for @repubblica. Some highlights:
Johnson: “We've all made a big mistake in Europe, as soon as it was clear that Trump had got into a trap in the Gulf, that there was a kind of checkmate in the Straits, we should have realised that Europe should try as much as possible, within reason, to help America and help America get out of the mess. There's no doubt that this is a mess, right? I don't understand how the Pentagon thought they could do this…
“I don't think it was sensible to try to attack Iran in the way that Israel and America did. But I think that now that it has happened, we have to try to help them out of the mess. And I think that instead of saying, “no, no, no, we hate Trump” - you know, all this sort of “this is not our war” - we should have said, look, we will try to help you diplomatically and with what forces we have to reopen the Straits of Hormuz. The NATO Article Two makes clear that you should protect mutual economic interests. We should have said, look, of course, NATO can help to try to get America out of this mess. But you should help us more in Ukraine.”
Living in a make believe world. How would Trump react to a 'request' that he help more in Ukraine in exchange for helping him get out oa a 'mess' in Iran? Very poorly I expect, because it would make him admit there was a mess, and because he is one way transactional, and would probably regard it as blackmail to ask him to do more in Ukraine in exchange for help elsewhere.
I do understand the argument that even if the UK and others did not want the USA to attack Iran it might be their interests to help resolve the whole mess (to the extent they are able), but that makes more sense than trying to use it as a lever to shift Trump's Ukraine policy, when he is so temperamental and vicious. It might make sense with another president.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
I love andouilettes with chips and mustard. Proper peasant food. The very very basic ingredients keep it honest. Eat it with rough red wine after a long walk through the countryside near, say, Lille or maybe Clermont Ferrand
One is tempted sometimes to wonder whether the peasants didn't have the best food.
Not andouillettes though. I’ve tried and tried, honestly, and the first mouthful or two is ok, but the stale urine hum builds and builds in the back of the nasal passage until it’s just too much.
Tsk. Snowflake. The tang of urine is the whole POINT
Are you taking the piss?
There are foods that contain the tang of various bodily things, but I find they go through a transition from delicious to ick. Certain high acid cheeses - notably Burgundian fromage fort - are just too much like vomit to be pleasant. Andouilette too like a multi-storey car park stairwell. And a jugged hair I once had in Rye, on the epoch-defining 10th August 2003, just too much like the bins out the back of the restaurant to be pleasant.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
I love andouilettes with chips and mustard. Proper peasant food. The very very basic ingredients keep it honest. Eat it with rough red wine after a long walk through the countryside near, say, Lille or maybe Clermont Ferrand
One is tempted sometimes to wonder whether the peasants didn't have the best food.
Agree with you and Leon. For instance a basic red wine, cheese and bread and fruit is a lovely meal
I had kidney and pancreas tonight. Enjoyed it, but I struggle to finish it as it is so rich.
Yes, as I get older and wiser - ahem - I like my food to be ever simpler and purer. Fuck off with gels and foams (and I have to eat a lot of this crap in my job). I don’t want cauliflower “three ways”. What’s the fucking point? Just serve it one way but make it good
It’s just one reason I love seafood. It’s hard to successfully tart up seafood and generally it makes it worse, even idiots realise this
If you have good oysters, you don’t do anything. Just serve fresh and cold on ice with mignonette and great crusty bread. If you have great fresh fish just grill or fry it as quickly and simply as possible, a squeeze of lemon, done. Do that and the world is happy
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
I love andouilettes with chips and mustard. Proper peasant food. The very very basic ingredients keep it honest. Eat it with rough red wine after a long walk through the countryside near, say, Lille or maybe Clermont Ferrand
One is tempted sometimes to wonder whether the peasants didn't have the best food.
Agree with you and Leon. For instance a basic red wine, cheese and bread and fruit is a lovely meal
I had kidney and pancreas tonight. Enjoyed it, but I struggle to finish it as it is so rich.
Yes, as I get older and wiser - ahem - I like my food to be ever simpler and purer. Fuck off with gels and foams (and I have to eat a lot of this crap in my job). I don’t want cauliflower “three ways”. What’s the fucking point? Just serve it one way but make it good
It’s just one reason I love seafood. It’s hard to successfully tart up seafood and generally it makes it worse, even idiots realise this
If you have good oysters, you don’t do anything. Just serve fresh and cold on ice with mignonette and great crusty bread. If you have great fresh fish just grill or fry it as quickly and simply as possible, a squeeze of lemon, done. Do that and the world is happy
Since we're having 'getting older' moans, a simple hot cross bun remains superior to the increasingly silly flavoured varieties they had taking up shelf space these days. Apple and toffee, salted caramel, lemon, etc, all might be ok, but the basic remains top.
By and large I love the greater variety of footstuffs available now, but not at the expense of being able to get hold a standard issue one.
We are currently producing 112% of our electricity needs, with the excess 12% being sent via connectors or to pumped storage.
Of the 112%, only 7% is gas power. So over 100% renewable or nuclear.
The Irish grid appears to be taking more than a GW from Britain and turning off its own wind turbines.
I'm assuming there's some sort of arbitrage going on whereby it makes sense to do this because the Irish pay wind farms less to turn off when there's excess wind energy.
We have 14 years of coalition and conservative governments to thank for that investment
What Lost Password is describing isn't a good thing for pity's sake. It means effectively that British billpayers are subsidising power that they aren't receiving - because the British subsidy regime is so much more generous than Ireland's, it's cheaper for them to use dumped power, kindly discounted by grannies in the UK, and constrain their own supply.
That isn't something to be celebrated, it's an epic farce.
I mean, sure, but the 'epic farce' subsidy price is much, much lower than what we would pay for gas powered electricity at current prices.
I think your anger is misdirected.
No it is not.
I posted a breakdown of what the various renewable sources are costing us vs. gas last week. Only one type of solar generation was remotely competitive with gas, even with gas at crisis prices. As gas inevitably gets cheaper, even if it's only a bit cheaper, it will be cheaper than CFD solar, and it was already cheaper than all wind.
We cannot maintain the polite fallacy that renewable energy (caveat - renewable energy the way that the UK has implemented it) is cheap or even 'free', when the cost of energy for businesses and domestic users continues to rise. Join the dots.
I'd be interested to see you share again with sources. It's not in line with what I've seen, but always open to new data.
Note: A discussion ensued about whether David Turver's figures for gas generation included maintance and capex, as this is not pulled out in his table - he comments in the thread under his Substack piece that it is included.
Note 2: The price of gas rose considerably after I made this initial post, but last time I looked it was still cheaper than all others bar CFD solar - and it was at the lower end of that.
Note 3: If you have time, read the comments below Turver's piece where a detailed attempt to rebut his conclusions is made, but the commentor (who is using AI by the way) is forced to admit that their figures only work when carbon taxes are assumed as an inalienable cost of gas. But of course they aren't - they are a policy choice that we don't need to levy and aren't a factor in most of our industrial competitors.
My admittedly non expert take on this "analysis". It looks to be nonsense based on what I do know
I would suggest you read the full piece linked above, which I should also have added (I did so later) in the second discussion to which you responded.
It is fairly obvious to me what the subsidy line is - it is what we have actually paid wind farms less the power we've bought at the CFD rate. Constraint payments being the major factor - which many renewables suppliers make more money from than generating power.
Furthermore.
1. Peaks in energy demand can be predicted fairly easily in all but a few cases. What is not predictable is the power provided to the grid by the wind and sun. It's entirely reasonable to apportion the cost of switching gas on and off on a hair trigger to renewables, and completely untrue to pile their cost in the gas column.
2. 'Curtailment due to grid capacity' has nothing to do with general upgrading of the grid, it is the cost of the grid trying to catch up with wind farms in locations with low connectivity, because the alternative is to fork out for eye-watering constraint payments.
3. Capacity Agreements exist because they support intermittent renewable power generation by ensuring there's always power. They are a direct result of renewables generation, and didn't exist before 2014. Trying to exclude them from the renewables column is absurd.
4. Constraint payment figures aren't itemised by reason (to my knowledge) so I will take your word for it, but their ballooning cost is reaching epidemic proportions:
2025 Total: £1.46 billion (£380m for wind curtailment + £1.08bn for replacement gas). 2024 Total: £1.23 billion (with 8.3 TWh of wind energy curtailed). 2023 Total: Approximately £780 million in constraint costs. 2020 (Jan-Feb): £72 million, which was nearly four times the amount for the same period in the previous year. Record Weekend (July 2018): £7.12 million paid over a single weekend.
(AI)
I'm afraid your post amounts to well-meaning sophistry.
It is patently absurd to look at energy bills that have spiralled as more renewable capacity has been added, and try and pin the blame for those prices on the gas that remains in the system.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
I love andouilettes with chips and mustard. Proper peasant food. The very very basic ingredients keep it honest. Eat it with rough red wine after a long walk through the countryside near, say, Lille or maybe Clermont Ferrand
One is tempted sometimes to wonder whether the peasants didn't have the best food.
Agree with you and Leon. For instance a basic red wine, cheese and bread and fruit is a lovely meal
I had kidney and pancreas tonight. Enjoyed it, but I struggle to finish it as it is so rich.
Yes, as I get older and wiser - ahem - I like my food to be ever simpler and purer. Fuck off with gels and foams (and I have to eat a lot of this crap in my job). I don’t want cauliflower “three ways”. What’s the fucking point? Just serve it one way but make it good
It’s just one reason I love seafood. It’s hard to successfully tart up seafood and generally it makes it worse, even idiots realise this
If you have good oysters, you don’t do anything. Just serve fresh and cold on ice with mignonette and great crusty bread. If you have great fresh fish just grill or fry it as quickly and simply as possible, a squeeze of lemon, done. Do that and the world is happy
Huge day in European politics tomorrow as Hungary goes to the polls.
Massively important.
The external ideological lens probably distorts what is going on. If Magyar wins, it will be more of a changing of the guard to a younger generation and will provide a boost to the European right overall.
Could be a very important day for Ukraine if the 90bn Euro loan is released from the EU after Orban's removal. Could be a real game changer in a war already swinging Ukraine's way.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
My son posted a picture of himself on a horse somewhere near Almaty today. Riding rather than dinner, I think, but I’ll quiz him on the cuisine.
He’s about to set off on a trip which he's keeping secret from us but says we’ll find interesting, and can follow on find-my iPhone. I know it’s not Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan or Tajikistan as that’s happening later, and not the Aral Sea as that was already planned, so I’m intrigued. I’m wondering if it’s a trip across the border to Xinjiang. Or he’s somehow got a visa for Turkmenistan.
The fermented mare's milk is as bad as it sounds according to Fox jr2
I had just a sip and yeeeeeuchh
Not as bad as the beer I had in Iquitos in the Amazon jungle which was literally made by old women chewing maize then spitting it into a bucket, with the enzymes in the old lady’s spit speeding the fermentation process
Old Lady Spit Beer
I might open a pop up in Borough Market. Serve it with dog
Reminds me of a scene in one of my favourite movies; Hombre, starring Paul Newman
Audra Favor: I can't imagine eating a dog and not thinking anything of it.
John Russell: You even been hungry, lady? Not just ready for supper. Hungry enough so that your belly swells?
Audra Favor: I wouldn't care how hungry I got. I know I wouldn't eat one of those camp dogs.
John Russell: You'd eat it. You'd fight for the bones, too.
Audra Favor: Have you ever eaten a dog, Mr. Russell?
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
I love andouilettes with chips and mustard. Proper peasant food. The very very basic ingredients keep it honest. Eat it with rough red wine after a long walk through the countryside near, say, Lille or maybe Clermont Ferrand
One is tempted sometimes to wonder whether the peasants didn't have the best food.
Not andouillettes though. I’ve tried and tried, honestly, and the first mouthful or two is ok, but the stale urine hum builds and builds in the back of the nasal passage until it’s just too much.
Tsk. Snowflake. The tang of urine is the whole POINT
Are you taking the piss?
There are foods that contain the tang of various bodily things, but I find they go through a transition from delicious to ick. Certain high acid cheeses - notably Burgundian fromage fort - are just too much like vomit to be pleasant. Andouilette too like a multi-storey car park stairwell. And a jugged hair I once had in Rye, on the epoch-defining 10th August 2003, just too much like the bins out the back of the restaurant to be pleasant.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
My son posted a picture of himself on a horse somewhere near Almaty today. Riding rather than dinner, I think, but I’ll quiz him on the cuisine.
He’s about to set off on a trip which he's keeping secret from us but says we’ll find interesting, and can follow on find-my iPhone. I know it’s not Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan or Tajikistan as that’s happening later, and not the Aral Sea as that was already planned, so I’m intrigued. I’m wondering if it’s a trip across the border to Xinjiang. Or he’s somehow got a visa for Turkmenistan.
The fermented mare's milk is as bad as it sounds according to Fox jr2
I had just a sip and yeeeeeuchh
Not as bad as the beer I had in Iquitos in the Amazon jungle which was literally made by old women chewing maize then spitting it into a bucket, with the enzymes in the old lady’s spit speeding the fermentation process
Old Lady Spit Beer
I might open a pop up in Borough Market. Serve it with dog
Reminds me of a scene in one of my favourite movies; Hombre, starring Paul Newman
Audra Favor: I can't imagine eating a dog and not thinking anything of it.
John Russell: You even been hungry, lady? Not just ready for supper. Hungry enough so that your belly swells?
Audra Favor: I wouldn't care how hungry I got. I know I wouldn't eat one of those camp dogs.
John Russell: You'd eat it. You'd fight for the bones, too.
Audra Favor: Have you ever eaten a dog, Mr. Russell?
John Russell: Eaten one and lived like one.
Audra Favor: Dear me.
Hunger is perhaps the most powerful motivator of all, there's little humans won't do when it hits hard.
We are currently producing 112% of our electricity needs, with the excess 12% being sent via connectors or to pumped storage.
Of the 112%, only 7% is gas power. So over 100% renewable or nuclear.
The Irish grid appears to be taking more than a GW from Britain and turning off its own wind turbines.
I'm assuming there's some sort of arbitrage going on whereby it makes sense to do this because the Irish pay wind farms less to turn off when there's excess wind energy.
We have 14 years of coalition and conservative governments to thank for that investment
What Lost Password is describing isn't a good thing for pity's sake. It means effectively that British billpayers are subsidising power that they aren't receiving - because the British subsidy regime is so much more generous than Ireland's, it's cheaper for them to use dumped power, kindly discounted by grannies in the UK, and constrain their own supply.
That isn't something to be celebrated, it's an epic farce.
I mean, sure, but the 'epic farce' subsidy price is much, much lower than what we would pay for gas powered electricity at current prices.
I think your anger is misdirected.
No it is not.
I posted a breakdown of what the various renewable sources are costing us vs. gas last week. Only one type of solar generation was remotely competitive with gas, even with gas at crisis prices. As gas inevitably gets cheaper, even if it's only a bit cheaper, it will be cheaper than CFD solar, and it was already cheaper than all wind.
We cannot maintain the polite fallacy that renewable energy (caveat - renewable energy the way that the UK has implemented it) is cheap or even 'free', when the cost of energy for businesses and domestic users continues to rise. Join the dots.
I'd be interested to see you share again with sources. It's not in line with what I've seen, but always open to new data.
Note: A discussion ensued about whether David Turver's figures for gas generation included maintance and capex, as this is not pulled out in his table - he comments in the thread under his Substack piece that it is included.
Note 2: The price of gas rose considerably after I made this initial post, but last time I looked it was still cheaper than all others bar CFD solar - and it was at the lower end of that.
Note 3: If you have time, read the comments below Turver's piece where a detailed attempt to rebut his conclusions is made, but the commentor (who is using AI by the way) is forced to admit that their figures only work when carbon taxes are assumed as an inalienable cost of gas. But of course they aren't - they are a policy choice that we don't need to levy and aren't a factor in most of our industrial competitors.
My admittedly non expert take on this "analysis". It looks to be nonsense based on what I do know
I would suggest you read the full piece linked above, which I should also have added (I did so later) in the second discussion to which you responded.
It is fairly obvious to me what the subsidy line is - it is what we have actually paid wind farms less the power we've bought at the CFD rate. Constraint payments being the major factor - which many renewables suppliers make more money from than generating power.
Furthermore.
1. Peaks in energy demand can be predicted fairly easily in all but a few cases. What is not predictable is the power provided to the grid by the wind and sun. It's entirely reasonable to apportion the cost of switching gas on and off on a hair trigger to renewables, and completely untrue to pile their cost in the gas column.
2. 'Curtailment due to grid capacity' has nothing to do with general upgrading of the grid, it is the cost of the grid trying to catch up with wind farms in locations with low connectivity, because the alternative is to fork out for eye-watering constraint payments.
3. Capacity Agreements exist because they support intermittent renewable power generation by ensuring there's always power. They are a direct result of renewables generation, and didn't exist before 2014. Trying to exclude them from the renewables column is absurd.
4. Constraint payment figures aren't itemised by reason (to my knowledge) so I will take your word for it, but their ballooning cost is reaching epidemic proportions:
2025 Total: £1.46 billion (£380m for wind curtailment + £1.08bn for replacement gas). 2024 Total: £1.23 billion (with 8.3 TWh of wind energy curtailed). 2023 Total: Approximately £780 million in constraint costs. 2020 (Jan-Feb): £72 million, which was nearly four times the amount for the same period in the previous year. Record Weekend (July 2018): £7.12 million paid over a single weekend.
(AI)
I'm afraid your post amounts to well-meaning sophistry.
It is patently absurd to look at energy bills that have spiralled as more renewable capacity has been added, and try and pin the blame for those prices on the gas that remains in the system.
Now that I have become a net exporter of energy from our new house, I say: let 'em spiral.
We are currently producing 112% of our electricity needs, with the excess 12% being sent via connectors or to pumped storage.
Of the 112%, only 7% is gas power. So over 100% renewable or nuclear.
The Irish grid appears to be taking more than a GW from Britain and turning off its own wind turbines.
I'm assuming there's some sort of arbitrage going on whereby it makes sense to do this because the Irish pay wind farms less to turn off when there's excess wind energy.
We have 14 years of coalition and conservative governments to thank for that investment
What Lost Password is describing isn't a good thing for pity's sake. It means effectively that British billpayers are subsidising power that they aren't receiving - because the British subsidy regime is so much more generous than Ireland's, it's cheaper for them to use dumped power, kindly discounted by grannies in the UK, and constrain their own supply.
That isn't something to be celebrated, it's an epic farce.
I mean, sure, but the 'epic farce' subsidy price is much, much lower than what we would pay for gas powered electricity at current prices.
I think your anger is misdirected.
No it is not.
I posted a breakdown of what the various renewable sources are costing us vs. gas last week. Only one type of solar generation was remotely competitive with gas, even with gas at crisis prices. As gas inevitably gets cheaper, even if it's only a bit cheaper, it will be cheaper than CFD solar, and it was already cheaper than all wind.
We cannot maintain the polite fallacy that renewable energy (caveat - renewable energy the way that the UK has implemented it) is cheap or even 'free', when the cost of energy for businesses and domestic users continues to rise. Join the dots.
I'd be interested to see you share again with sources. It's not in line with what I've seen, but always open to new data.
Note: A discussion ensued about whether David Turver's figures for gas generation included maintance and capex, as this is not pulled out in his table - he comments in the thread under his Substack piece that it is included.
Note 2: The price of gas rose considerably after I made this initial post, but last time I looked it was still cheaper than all others bar CFD solar - and it was at the lower end of that.
Note 3: If you have time, read the comments below Turver's piece where a detailed attempt to rebut his conclusions is made, but the commentor (who is using AI by the way) is forced to admit that their figures only work when carbon taxes are assumed as an inalienable cost of gas. But of course they aren't - they are a policy choice that we don't need to levy and aren't a factor in most of our industrial competitors.
Carbon taxes or ETS charges are currently levied by all 27 EU member states, China, Japan, Korea, Canada and various other countries. Most of our industrial peers in other words. China’s recalcitrant ETS regime is being significantly reformed this year bringing it close to EU levels.
If by “most of our industrial competitors” you mean the USA then, well, yes. Thankfully the world economy isn’t just the US or we’d be more fucked than we already are.
The US would love to think it’s immune from the externalities it’s imposing on the world, but it certainly isn’t. Rather like its assumptions about the Hormuz blockage.
Reading between the lines, China's carbon taxes are negligible (we will see how your confident predictions that they will be 'more like' Europe's following the forthcoming 'reforms' turns out), and India isn't mentioned. These are the two economies that happen to produce most of the world's stuff.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
My son posted a picture of himself on a horse somewhere near Almaty today. Riding rather than dinner, I think, but I’ll quiz him on the cuisine.
He’s about to set off on a trip which he's keeping secret from us but says we’ll find interesting, and can follow on find-my iPhone. I know it’s not Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan or Tajikistan as that’s happening later, and not the Aral Sea as that was already planned, so I’m intrigued. I’m wondering if it’s a trip across the border to Xinjiang. Or he’s somehow got a visa for Turkmenistan.
The fermented mare's milk is as bad as it sounds according to Fox jr2
I had just a sip and yeeeeeuchh
Not as bad as the beer I had in Iquitos in the Amazon jungle which was literally made by old women chewing maize then spitting it into a bucket, with the enzymes in the old lady’s spit speeding the fermentation process
Old Lady Spit Beer
I might open a pop up in Borough Market. Serve it with dog
Reminds me of a scene in one of my favourite movies; Hombre, starring Paul Newman
Audra Favor: I can't imagine eating a dog and not thinking anything of it.
John Russell: You even been hungry, lady? Not just ready for supper. Hungry enough so that your belly swells?
Audra Favor: I wouldn't care how hungry I got. I know I wouldn't eat one of those camp dogs.
John Russell: You'd eat it. You'd fight for the bones, too.
Audra Favor: Have you ever eaten a dog, Mr. Russell?
John Russell: Eaten one and lived like one.
Audra Favor: Dear me.
Hunger is perhaps the most powerful motivator of all, there's little humans won't do when it hits hard.
There is a restaurant in Edinburgh that has a quotation from Brecht on the door:
We are currently producing 112% of our electricity needs, with the excess 12% being sent via connectors or to pumped storage.
Of the 112%, only 7% is gas power. So over 100% renewable or nuclear.
The Irish grid appears to be taking more than a GW from Britain and turning off its own wind turbines.
I'm assuming there's some sort of arbitrage going on whereby it makes sense to do this because the Irish pay wind farms less to turn off when there's excess wind energy.
We have 14 years of coalition and conservative governments to thank for that investment
What Lost Password is describing isn't a good thing for pity's sake. It means effectively that British billpayers are subsidising power that they aren't receiving - because the British subsidy regime is so much more generous than Ireland's, it's cheaper for them to use dumped power, kindly discounted by grannies in the UK, and constrain their own supply.
That isn't something to be celebrated, it's an epic farce.
I mean, sure, but the 'epic farce' subsidy price is much, much lower than what we would pay for gas powered electricity at current prices.
I think your anger is misdirected.
No it is not.
I posted a breakdown of what the various renewable sources are costing us vs. gas last week. Only one type of solar generation was remotely competitive with gas, even with gas at crisis prices. As gas inevitably gets cheaper, even if it's only a bit cheaper, it will be cheaper than CFD solar, and it was already cheaper than all wind.
We cannot maintain the polite fallacy that renewable energy (caveat - renewable energy the way that the UK has implemented it) is cheap or even 'free', when the cost of energy for businesses and domestic users continues to rise. Join the dots.
I'd be interested to see you share again with sources. It's not in line with what I've seen, but always open to new data.
Note: A discussion ensued about whether David Turver's figures for gas generation included maintance and capex, as this is not pulled out in his table - he comments in the thread under his Substack piece that it is included.
Note 2: The price of gas rose considerably after I made this initial post, but last time I looked it was still cheaper than all others bar CFD solar - and it was at the lower end of that.
Note 3: If you have time, read the comments below Turver's piece where a detailed attempt to rebut his conclusions is made, but the commentor (who is using AI by the way) is forced to admit that their figures only work when carbon taxes are assumed as an inalienable cost of gas. But of course they aren't - they are a policy choice that we don't need to levy and aren't a factor in most of our industrial competitors.
My admittedly non expert take on this "analysis". It looks to be nonsense based on what I do know
I would suggest you read the full piece linked above, which I should also have added (I did so later) in the second discussion to which you responded.
It is fairly obvious to me what the subsidy line is - it is what we have actually paid wind farms less the power we've bought at the CFD rate. Constraint payments being the major factor - which many renewables suppliers make more money from than generating power.
Furthermore.
1. Peaks in energy demand can be predicted fairly easily in all but a few cases. What is not predictable is the power provided to the grid by the wind and sun. It's entirely reasonable to apportion the cost of switching gas on and off on a hair trigger to renewables, and completely untrue to pile their cost in the gas column.
2. 'Curtailment due to grid capacity' has nothing to do with general upgrading of the grid, it is the cost of the grid trying to catch up with wind farms in locations with low connectivity, because the alternative is to fork out for eye-watering constraint payments.
3. Capacity Agreements exist because they support intermittent renewable power generation by ensuring there's always power. They are a direct result of renewables generation, and didn't exist before 2014. Trying to exclude them from the renewables column is absurd.
4. Constraint payment figures aren't itemised by reason (to my knowledge) so I will take your word for it, but their ballooning cost is reaching epidemic proportions:
2025 Total: £1.46 billion (£380m for wind curtailment + £1.08bn for replacement gas). 2024 Total: £1.23 billion (with 8.3 TWh of wind energy curtailed). 2023 Total: Approximately £780 million in constraint costs. 2020 (Jan-Feb): £72 million, which was nearly four times the amount for the same period in the previous year. Record Weekend (July 2018): £7.12 million paid over a single weekend.
(AI)
I'm afraid your post amounts to well-meaning sophistry.
It is patently absurd to look at energy bills that have spiralled as more renewable capacity has been added, and try and pin the blame for those prices on the gas that remains in the system.
Now that I have become a net exporter of energy from our new house, I say: let 'em spiral.
That's nice. Glad we've dropped all that pretence about 'helping the poor' from the soft-left agenda. Let the fuckers freeze.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
I love andouilettes with chips and mustard. Proper peasant food. The very very basic ingredients keep it honest. Eat it with rough red wine after a long walk through the countryside near, say, Lille or maybe Clermont Ferrand
One is tempted sometimes to wonder whether the peasants didn't have the best food.
Agree with you and Leon. For instance a basic red wine, cheese and bread and fruit is a lovely meal
I had kidney and pancreas tonight. Enjoyed it, but I struggle to finish it as it is so rich.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
In Oldham in the early 50s, there were more tripe shops than fish and chips shops. Black pepper and lots of vinegar. Chew and chew and then a big swallow.
If you go to the Chinese restraunts frequented by Chinese students then it is fairly easy to find tripe. I was treated by one of our Chinese PhD students to a steamboat of lamb vertebrae with tripe cooked in the stock. It has an odd texture but pleasant enough. Chinese seem to quite like the mouthfeel of things that most westerners spit out, like chicken feet or cuttlefish. I guess you have to grow up with it.
There's a huge difference between raw tripe eaten at the market stall with plenty of salt, pepper and vinegar, and tripe and onions, my father's favourite dish, where the tripe is simmered in milk with onions until really tender. A different dish.
UCP were the big tripe chain in Oldham. Lots of tripe shops.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
I love andouilettes with chips and mustard. Proper peasant food. The very very basic ingredients keep it honest. Eat it with rough red wine after a long walk through the countryside near, say, Lille or maybe Clermont Ferrand
One is tempted sometimes to wonder whether the peasants didn't have the best food.
Agree with you and Leon. For instance a basic red wine, cheese and bread and fruit is a lovely meal
I had kidney and pancreas tonight. Enjoyed it, but I struggle to finish it as it is so rich.
sounds horrific
Have you tried it @malcolmg ? Sweetbreads are delicious. Offal generally has great flavours. Liver and kidney are brilliant if prepared well. Stuffed heart, again if prepared well is gorgeous. Ox Tongue and Oxtail are other favourites of mine. Foods with great flavours.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I've definitely had goat - at least three times in the last six months, there is an excellent stall.selling it in Piccadilly Gardens - but never knowingly had mutton.
You’ve never had mutton! You’ve missed a treat if it’s cooked long and slow. Your nearest halal butcher will probably sell it.
Some farm shops too. I get it from a local one. There is also a Cumbrian butchers that comes to Jesmond Dene bridge market and sells it.
Do you know if it’s available at Hexham farmers market?
Exclusive: Richard Tice’s company broke the law by failing to pay tens of thousands of pounds in tax on dividends that were paid to him and his offshore trust. He received at least £91,000 in excess payments as a result of the failure.
Richard Tice’s firm broke law by failing to pay £91,000 taxes
The deputy leader of Reform UK owns a property investment company which did not pay tax on dividends before sending profits to a trust registered in Jersey
Richard Tice’s company broke the law by failing to pay tens of thousands of pounds in tax on dividends that were paid to him and his offshore trust.
Reform UK’s deputy leader, who is also the business, trade and energy spokesman for Nigel Farage’s party, received at least £91,000 in excess payments as a result of the failure.
Quidnet REIT Ltd, the property investment company he founded, owned and ran as chief executive, did not pay a required 20 per cent levy on the dividends, known as a “withholding tax”, before channelling profits to Tice and his trust registered in Jersey.
Tice, the Boston & Skegness MP, implied the failure amounted to a “technicality” and appeared to suggest it did not matter as he ultimately paid income tax on the dividends he received. He said: “I have paid all tax at the highest rate on all dividends received. HMRC has been paid in full.”
Dan Neidle of Tax Policy Associates said: “The rules are fairly simple and understood by everyone in the property world. Failure to pay the tax looks careless. We don’t get to choose who pays tax and when we pay tax, and the law required that the company paid the tax when the dividends were paid.”
Richard Tice’s firm broke law by failing to pay £91,000 taxes
The deputy leader of Reform UK owns a property investment company which did not pay tax on dividends before sending profits to a trust registered in Jersey
Richard Tice’s company broke the law by failing to pay tens of thousands of pounds in tax on dividends that were paid to him and his offshore trust.
Reform UK’s deputy leader, who is also the business, trade and energy spokesman for Nigel Farage’s party, received at least £91,000 in excess payments as a result of the failure.
Quidnet REIT Ltd, the property investment company he founded, owned and ran as chief executive, did not pay a required 20 per cent levy on the dividends, known as a “withholding tax”, before channelling profits to Tice and his trust registered in Jersey.
Tice, the Boston & Skegness MP, implied the failure amounted to a “technicality” and appeared to suggest it did not matter as he ultimately paid income tax on the dividends he received. He said: “I have paid all tax at the highest rate on all dividends received. HMRC has been paid in full.”
Dan Neidle of Tax Policy Associates said: “The rules are fairly simple and understood by everyone in the property world. Failure to pay the tax looks careless. We don’t get to choose who pays tax and when we pay tax, and the law required that the company paid the tax when the dividends were paid.”
The MP received some of the dividends in the form of shares, meaning he also continues to hold equity he would never have received had tax been correctly deducted.
When Angela Rayner, the former deputy prime minister, failed to pay stamp duty on the purchase of a second home, Tice said her position was “morally completely indefensible” and that she would resign if she had “any moral decency”.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
I love andouilettes with chips and mustard. Proper peasant food. The very very basic ingredients keep it honest. Eat it with rough red wine after a long walk through the countryside near, say, Lille or maybe Clermont Ferrand
One is tempted sometimes to wonder whether the peasants didn't have the best food.
Agree with you and Leon. For instance a basic red wine, cheese and bread and fruit is a lovely meal
I had kidney and pancreas tonight. Enjoyed it, but I struggle to finish it as it is so rich.
Yes, as I get older and wiser - ahem - I like my food to be ever simpler and purer. Fuck off with gels and foams (and I have to eat a lot of this crap in my job). I don’t want cauliflower “three ways”. What’s the fucking point? Just serve it one way but make it good
It’s just one reason I love seafood. It’s hard to successfully tart up seafood and generally it makes it worse, even idiots realise this
If you have good oysters, you don’t do anything. Just serve fresh and cold on ice with mignonette and great crusty bread. If you have great fresh fish just grill or fry it as quickly and simply as possible, a squeeze of lemon, done. Do that and the world is happy
Since we're having 'getting older' moans, a simple hot cross bun remains superior to the increasingly silly flavoured varieties they had taking up shelf space these days. Apple and toffee, salted caramel, lemon, etc, all might be ok, but the basic remains top.
By and large I love the greater variety of footstuffs available now, but not at the expense of being able to get hold a standard issue one.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
I love andouilettes with chips and mustard. Proper peasant food. The very very basic ingredients keep it honest. Eat it with rough red wine after a long walk through the countryside near, say, Lille or maybe Clermont Ferrand
One is tempted sometimes to wonder whether the peasants didn't have the best food.
Agree with you and Leon. For instance a basic red wine, cheese and bread and fruit is a lovely meal
I had kidney and pancreas tonight. Enjoyed it, but I struggle to finish it as it is so rich.
Yes, as I get older and wiser - ahem - I like my food to be ever simpler and purer. Fuck off with gels and foams (and I have to eat a lot of this crap in my job). I don’t want cauliflower “three ways”. What’s the fucking point? Just serve it one way but make it good
It’s just one reason I love seafood. It’s hard to successfully tart up seafood and generally it makes it worse, even idiots realise this
If you have good oysters, you don’t do anything. Just serve fresh and cold on ice with mignonette and great crusty bread. If you have great fresh fish just grill or fry it as quickly and simply as possible, a squeeze of lemon, done. Do that and the world is happy
Since we're having 'getting older' moans, a simple hot cross bun remains superior to the increasingly silly flavoured varieties they had taking up shelf space these days. Apple and toffee, salted caramel, lemon, etc, all might be ok, but the basic remains top.
By and large I love the greater variety of footstuffs available now, but not at the expense of being able to get hold a standard issue one.
Agree, but I would like to see more spice and peel in the standard offering. They are becoming more like currant buns now rather than the traditional hot cross bun.
EXCL: Labour MP Afzal Khan claimed he "briefly" attended event — but left upon realising Lord Ahmed, jailed for child sex crimes against girl as young as 4, was there. Now video shows the pair smiling walking down red carpet and sitting next to each other
Gabriel Pogrund seems to be doing a lot of legwork past few months on stories.
Most of it complete bollox
Usually racially motivated bollox
Wouldn't be on the payroll of Mossad by any chance??
Throwing out comments of that nature can cause problems for the site
You do seem to like threatening posters you don't approve of or who disagree with your narratives with the looming spectre of sanctions.
I am not threatening anyone
Do you agree with his comment
It isn't a comment I would have made. A question does not constitute a direct allegation. You do this quite a lot with particular posters you don't seem to like. I am sure the mods can decide when posters have crossed the line without advice shouted from the touchline.
Nobody has tried more on this forum to have Leon sanctioned than you, and you have admitted to multiple times flaging posts
I have never flagged a post but will comment on something that I consider may go over the line
Leon sometimes needs flagging, which he'd probably admit himself.
Only if you take him seriously. Most of the time his tongue is so firmly in his cheek it’s sticking out of his ear.
Ah, but is it?
I don’t mind being flagged. It’s a badge of honour because flagging is so passively aggressively pathetic
Constantly asking via hints, or outright demands, for someone to be banned - eg me - genuinely IS a bit annoying. It’s mainly @Mexicanpete and @bondegezou and dweebs like that. I’ve noticed there is a 100% overlap between these people and people I have publicly humiliated on the site
Hey ho. The PB pub is still open and life rocks on. And today I ate - I think - ny first ever plate of goat meat (which surprises me) and it was absolutely delicious. Better than lamb maybe. Very very very slowly cooked in a huge Turkish roasting dish up in the Taurus mountains. Yummy
Wait.
You've never had goat before? Did you never go to a music festival in the 1990s
We’ve all surely eaten goat, without realising. “Mutton”. Actual goat is very cheap down Deptford Market so I get it when I want a sort of stewy Middle Eastern thing.
I ate horse once. It was on the lunch canteen menu at a techy conference I went to in Spain in early 1990s. All perfectly normal out there apparently. Or was then.
I am now a vegetarian.
I've had horse. Kind of meh to be honest.
I had it in Almaty in Kazakhstan where it is said to be the best horsemeat in the world. This being where horses kicked off, of course
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
At the same conference my boss - a hard core northern with a long flame-orange beard - found he could get tripe on the menu and was in seventh heaven.
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
I love andouilettes with chips and mustard. Proper peasant food. The very very basic ingredients keep it honest. Eat it with rough red wine after a long walk through the countryside near, say, Lille or maybe Clermont Ferrand
One is tempted sometimes to wonder whether the peasants didn't have the best food.
Agree with you and Leon. For instance a basic red wine, cheese and bread and fruit is a lovely meal
I had kidney and pancreas tonight. Enjoyed it, but I struggle to finish it as it is so rich.
sounds horrific
Have you tried it @malcolmg ? Sweetbreads are delicious. Offal generally has great flavours. Liver and kidney are brilliant if prepared well. Stuffed heart, again if prepared well is gorgeous. Ox Tongue and Oxtail are other favourites of mine. Foods with great flavours.
Used to be able to get Heart from Morrisons.
Kidney and liver are both superb.
Pigs cheeks, and for that matter ox cheeks, are also worthy of mention, cooked nice and slow in a nice sauce. We had pigs cheeks tonight.
I’d agree on sweetbreads. Cooked properly they’re very nice.
Richard Tice’s firm broke law by failing to pay £91,000 taxes
The deputy leader of Reform UK owns a property investment company which did not pay tax on dividends before sending profits to a trust registered in Jersey
Richard Tice’s company broke the law by failing to pay tens of thousands of pounds in tax on dividends that were paid to him and his offshore trust.
Reform UK’s deputy leader, who is also the business, trade and energy spokesman for Nigel Farage’s party, received at least £91,000 in excess payments as a result of the failure.
Quidnet REIT Ltd, the property investment company he founded, owned and ran as chief executive, did not pay a required 20 per cent levy on the dividends, known as a “withholding tax”, before channelling profits to Tice and his trust registered in Jersey.
Tice, the Boston & Skegness MP, implied the failure amounted to a “technicality” and appeared to suggest it did not matter as he ultimately paid income tax on the dividends he received. He said: “I have paid all tax at the highest rate on all dividends received. HMRC has been paid in full.”
Dan Neidle of Tax Policy Associates said: “The rules are fairly simple and understood by everyone in the property world. Failure to pay the tax looks careless. We don’t get to choose who pays tax and when we pay tax, and the law required that the company paid the tax when the dividends were paid.”
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WSJ report on how Trump's Iran War is ending with the Islamic Republic the tollmaster of the Persian Gulf. https://wsj.com/articles/the-ships-sailing-through-irans-controlled-toll-booth-386d150e?mod=WSJ_home_mediumtopper_pos_2 Trump is now trying to recoup at the negotiating table what he lost on the battlefield.
https://x.com/davidfrum/status/2043030198107480500
And yet it seems the US political system will allow him to build a massive arc of "triumph" in the middle of Washington.
There are more differences within breeds of sheep and goats than there are between the species
SNP: no.
Reform: hell no.
Green: not in this lifetime, if I ever did it might be too late to make Dignitas.
People I would vote for:
....
I'll get back to you but probably the most likely to beat the above. It's dismal.
I am now a vegetarian.
The main issue is not whether software works - as unless you are doing something particularly specialist, there aren't too many holes. I've never had a serious system screw up because I keep any funky development or server stuff in Docker or a VM and keep the platform itself clean. It isn't as if Microsoft hasn't had the odd disaster, in any case.
No, the main issue is when the government use proprietary formats. DEFRA do love an Excel macro or twenty..
They should make sure everything they provide or require are in well documented and free formats. There are other good reasons for this than not forcing people to use proprietary software, not least being able to read their own files in 30 years' time. This is much more important than what OS anyone uses.
Making Tax Digital is of course going to be another insult on this front. I doubt anyone is going to get an open source implementation approved in time...
The only time I did get very vexed was back in 2005 when that ruffian Thomas was highly critical of my punctuation, particularly my use of the long paragraph.
Wasn't part of the whole horse meat scandal was there was a glut of horse meat at the time and it had got much cheaper than beef and so people were slipping it in to the supply chain and before you know all the ready meals made in a mega factory was using it? There wasn't actually any wrong with the meat, it was that it was horse not beef.
But somehow never goat? And it turns out it’s delish (if cooked right)
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5493412#Comment_5493412
Note: A discussion ensued about whether David Turver's figures for gas generation included maintance and capex, as this is not pulled out in his table - he comments in the thread under his Substack piece that it is included.
Note 2: The price of gas rose considerably after I made this initial post, but last time I looked it was still cheaper than all others bar CFD solar - and it was at the lower end of that.
Note 3: If you have time, read the comments below Turver's piece where a detailed attempt to rebut his conclusions is made, but the commentor (who is using AI by the way) is forced to admit that their figures only work when carbon taxes are assumed as an inalienable cost of gas. But of course they aren't - they are a policy choice that we don't need to levy and aren't a factor in most of our industrial competitors.
* It might have been half a carafe.
She had a brief affair with Willie Brown, who was separated from his wife at the time. Who rewarded her: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris
It was quite nice. Not bad. Like fairly flavourless beef. Not enough fat to make it exciting. Notably better than dog which is way too bony and gristly (but you totally would if starving)
It’s probably great as a protein vehicle for wilder flavours, eg in curry or goulash or whatever
The goat today was gorgeous. I’d put it above most lamb I’ve had - and I often love lamb (but it’s so easy to overcook)
(Apparently the glut was in part due to a new rule in Romania which said horses and carts weren't allowed on main roads anymore. So a whole generation of small farmers had to buy pick-ups and no longer needed a horse, or as many horses.
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5504520#Comment_5504520
Did you ever eat at Archipelago?
What I do remember is my first introduction to excellent French patisseries. Again I was about eight. It was a chocolate eclair bought and eaten in Collioure. Omg. It was possibly the loveliest thing I’d ever eaten up to that point in my life
I kind of miss that revelation about French food. Now it is just generally nice food with flaws - British is often better and certainly more inventive. So there isn’t that excitement when you cross the channel
Many of the very worst meals I’ve had in the last 10 years have been in France
I guess this was basic lunch food for the ordinary working guy in Barcelona in 1991??
If by “most of our industrial competitors” you mean the USA then, well, yes. Thankfully the world economy isn’t just the US or we’d be more fucked than we already are.
The US would love to think it’s immune from the externalities it’s imposing on the world, but it certainly isn’t. Rather like its assumptions about the Hormuz blockage.
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2026/04/the-year-so-far-hottest-and-driest-in-u-s-history/
He’s about to set off on a trip which he's keeping secret from us but says we’ll find interesting, and can follow on find-my iPhone. I know it’s not Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan or Tajikistan as that’s happening later, and not the Aral Sea as that was already planned, so I’m intrigued. I’m wondering if it’s a trip across the border to Xinjiang. Or he’s somehow got a visa for Turkmenistan.
The only meal la patronne was prepared to offer was a simple goats cheese salad, which we ordered. Needless to say it was out of this world - we have tried to recreate it many times and never quite succeeded.
https://www.resolversystems.com/
Black pepper and lots of vinegar. Chew and chew and then a big swallow.
Not as bad as the beer I had in Iquitos in the Amazon jungle which was literally made by old women chewing maize then spitting it into a bucket, with the enzymes in the old lady’s spit speeding the fermentation process
Old Lady Spit Beer
I might open a pop up in Borough Market. Serve it with dog
Lead down to 2.
I had kidney and pancreas tonight. Enjoyed it, but I struggle to finish it as it is so rich.
NEW. I have interviewed @BorisJohnson on Iran, Ukraine, Trump, NATO, Brexit for @repubblica. Some highlights:
Johnson: “We've all made a big mistake in Europe, as soon as it was clear that Trump had got into a trap in the Gulf, that there was a kind of checkmate in the Straits, we should have realised that Europe should try as much as possible, within reason, to help America and help America get out of the mess. There's no doubt that this is a mess, right? I don't understand how the Pentagon thought they could do this…
“I don't think it was sensible to try to attack Iran in the way that Israel and America did. But I think that now that it has happened, we have to try to help them out of the mess. And I think that instead of saying, “no, no, no, we hate Trump” - you know, all this sort of “this is not our war” - we should have said, look, we will try to help you diplomatically and with what forces we have to reopen the Straits of Hormuz. The NATO Article Two makes clear that you should protect mutual economic interests. We should have said, look, of course, NATO can help to try to get America out of this mess. But you should help us more in Ukraine.”
Oddest meal I had was at my mates. His ex wife is Jamaican. She cooked a pigs tail curry. It wasn’t nice.
I do understand the argument that even if the UK and others did not want the USA to attack Iran it might be their interests to help resolve the whole mess (to the extent they are able), but that makes more sense than trying to use it as a lever to shift Trump's Ukraine policy, when he is so temperamental and vicious. It might make sense with another president.
It’s just one reason I love seafood. It’s hard to successfully tart up seafood and generally it makes it worse, even idiots realise this
If you have good oysters, you don’t do anything. Just serve fresh and cold on ice with mignonette and great crusty bread. If you have great fresh fish just grill or fry it as quickly and simply as possible, a squeeze of lemon, done. Do that and the world is happy
By and large I love the greater variety of footstuffs available now, but not at the expense of being able to get hold a standard issue one.
I would suggest you read the full piece linked above, which I should also have added (I did so later) in the second discussion to which you responded.
It is fairly obvious to me what the subsidy line is - it is what we have actually paid wind farms less the power we've bought at the CFD rate. Constraint payments being the major factor - which many renewables suppliers make more money from than generating power.
Furthermore.
1. Peaks in energy demand can be predicted fairly easily in all but a few cases. What is not predictable is the power provided to the grid by the wind and sun. It's entirely reasonable to apportion the cost of switching gas on and off on a hair trigger to renewables, and completely untrue to pile their cost in the gas column.
2. 'Curtailment due to grid capacity' has nothing to do with general upgrading of the grid, it is the cost of the grid trying to catch up with wind farms in locations with low connectivity, because the alternative is to fork out for eye-watering constraint payments.
3. Capacity Agreements exist because they support intermittent renewable power generation by ensuring there's always power. They are a direct result of renewables generation, and didn't exist before 2014. Trying to exclude them from the renewables column is absurd.
4. Constraint payment figures aren't itemised by reason (to my knowledge) so I will take your word for it, but their ballooning cost is reaching epidemic proportions:
2025 Total: £1.46 billion (£380m for wind curtailment + £1.08bn for replacement gas).
2024 Total: £1.23 billion (with 8.3 TWh of wind energy curtailed).
2023 Total: Approximately £780 million in constraint costs.
2020 (Jan-Feb): £72 million, which was nearly four times the amount for the same period in the previous year.
Record Weekend (July 2018): £7.12 million paid over a single weekend.
I'm afraid your post amounts to well-meaning sophistry.
It is patently absurd to look at energy bills that have spiralled as more renewable capacity has been added, and try and pin the blame for those prices on the gas that remains in the system.
Audra Favor: I can't imagine eating a dog and not thinking anything of it.
John Russell: You even been hungry, lady? Not just ready for supper. Hungry enough so that your belly swells?
Audra Favor: I wouldn't care how hungry I got. I know I wouldn't eat one of those camp dogs.
John Russell: You'd eat it. You'd fight for the bones, too.
Audra Favor: Have you ever eaten a dog, Mr. Russell?
John Russell: Eaten one and lived like one.
Audra Favor: Dear me.
"First comes food, then morals."
Richard Caring sells majority stake in Ivy hospitality empire to Sheikh Tahnoon’s IHC
Sheikh T, who is also Abu Dhabi’s spy chief, is now the majority owner of Scott’s, Annabel’s and many of most frequented spots by London’s elite
JohnO and myself had a stunning lunch in Scott's last year.
UCP were the big tripe chain in Oldham. Lots of tripe shops.
Hallsford farm produce.
https://x.com/danneidle/status/2043052507799208208?s=61
https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/2043052528275726689?s=20
The deputy leader of Reform UK owns a property investment company which did not pay tax on dividends before sending profits to a trust registered in Jersey
Richard Tice’s company broke the law by failing to pay tens of thousands of pounds in tax on dividends that were paid to him and his offshore trust.
Reform UK’s deputy leader, who is also the business, trade and energy spokesman for Nigel Farage’s party, received at least £91,000 in excess payments as a result of the failure.
Quidnet REIT Ltd, the property investment company he founded, owned and ran as chief executive, did not pay a required 20 per cent levy on the dividends, known as a “withholding tax”, before channelling profits to Tice and his trust registered in Jersey.
Tice, the Boston & Skegness MP, implied the failure amounted to a “technicality” and appeared to suggest it did not matter as he ultimately paid income tax on the dividends he received. He said: “I have paid all tax at the highest rate on all dividends received. HMRC has been paid in full.”
Dan Neidle of Tax Policy Associates said: “The rules are fairly simple and understood by everyone in the property world. Failure to pay the tax looks careless. We don’t get to choose who pays tax and when we pay tax, and the law required that the company paid the tax when the dividends were paid.”
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/richard-tice-tax-reform-farage-vx8j502fr
When Angela Rayner, the former deputy prime minister, failed to pay stamp duty on the purchase of a second home, Tice said her position was “morally completely indefensible” and that she would resign if she had “any moral decency”.
Kidney and liver are both superb.
Pigs cheeks, and for that matter ox cheeks, are also worthy of mention, cooked nice and slow in a nice sauce. We had pigs cheeks tonight.
I’d agree on sweetbreads. Cooked properly they’re very nice.