To think this is all happening because some people don't like diversity, equity and inclusion.
And the price of eggs in Ohio.
The rest of the West needs to learn from this. We cannot rely on perfidious USA when a few tens of thousands of voters in a few rural counties can put a madman in the White House.
Tucker Carlson: "It is vile on every level. It begins with a promise to use the US military, our military, to destroy civilian infrastructure in another country, which is to say, to commit a war crime, a moral crime against the people of the country. Those people who are in direct contact with the president need to say 'No. I'll resign. I'll do whatever I can do legally to stop this, because this is insane. And if given the order, I'm not carrying it out.'"
This is the US’s Suez moment. But instead of another nation having a strong word, it needs to be senior figures in the military and the administration. Do those people have the backbone to tell him it’s gone too far?
Israel has been attacking Iran's railways today and you do need to ask just what influence the US has over them ?
EXCL HMS Dragon, the only Royal Navy warship deployed to the conflict with Iran has withdrawn to port for repairs and logistics after experiencing issues with its fresh water supplies, the Mail can reveal
Its replacement would have been the Glen Sannox, but...
A very hard look at the RN is due. I'm not sure they actually deliver anything at all currently - at best they can manage to hide the disaster that are the aircraft carriers. I have no doubt there's good intent somewhere, but it seems hard to discern. The documentaries surrounding the Navy just make things worse.
I see some very useful recruits getting their trainers apparently free of charge. (Alas the ability to actually be an imposing naval figure that could whip them in to shape has also been lost)
Aircraft carriers need functioning escort vessels. I do not think we have those, so the aircraft carriers are doubably pointless.
Tucker Carlson: "It is vile on every level. It begins with a promise to use the US military, our military, to destroy civilian infrastructure in another country, which is to say, to commit a war crime, a moral crime against the people of the country. Those people who are in direct contact with the president need to say 'No. I'll resign. I'll do whatever I can do legally to stop this, because this is insane. And if given the order, I'm not carrying it out.'"
This is the US’s Suez moment. But instead of another nation having a strong word, it needs to be senior figures in the military and the administration. Do those people have the backbone to tell him it’s gone too far?
Israel has been attacking Iran's railways today and you do need to ask just what influence the US has over them ?
Jack Shaw @JackTShaw The House of Commons Library has published maps of the proposed boundaries for new local authorities which will hold their first elections in May 2027 and take on their full powers in April 2028.
Must be serious, but we know that he will be back to his old ways soon enough. If you like or are indifferent to Trump Reform is your main choice, if you dislike Trump then might consider them still (not all Reform voters like him after all), but would have to be comfortable with the leadership being pro-Trump.
It's not as though Trump would remember Farage generally being nice to him, if he gets wind of this criticism either. He doesn't store up gratitude.
Tucker Carlson: "It is vile on every level. It begins with a promise to use the US military, our military, to destroy civilian infrastructure in another country, which is to say, to commit a war crime, a moral crime against the people of the country. Those people who are in direct contact with the president need to say 'No. I'll resign. I'll do whatever I can do legally to stop this, because this is insane. And if given the order, I'm not carrying it out.'"
This is the US’s Suez moment. But instead of another nation having a strong word, it needs to be senior figures in the military and the administration. Do those people have the backbone to tell him it’s gone too far?
Israel has been attacking Iran's railways today and you do need to ask just what influence the US has over them ?
Jack Shaw @JackTShaw The House of Commons Library has published maps of the proposed boundaries for new local authorities which will hold their first elections in May 2027 and take on their full powers in April 2028.
Excellent. There will be complaints, but broadly these things work out ok - people often don't know or care about who their council is, until they hear about it being abolished.
Tucker Carlson: "It is vile on every level. It begins with a promise to use the US military, our military, to destroy civilian infrastructure in another country, which is to say, to commit a war crime, a moral crime against the people of the country. Those people who are in direct contact with the president need to say 'No. I'll resign. I'll do whatever I can do legally to stop this, because this is insane. And if given the order, I'm not carrying it out.'"
This is the US’s Suez moment. But instead of another nation having a strong word, it needs to be senior figures in the military and the administration. Do those people have the backbone to tell him it’s gone too far?
Israel has been attacking Iran's railways today and you do need to ask just what influence the US has over them ?
EXCL HMS Dragon, the only Royal Navy warship deployed to the conflict with Iran has withdrawn to port for repairs and logistics after experiencing issues with its fresh water supplies, the Mail can reveal
Its replacement would have been the Glen Sannox, but...
A very hard look at the RN is due. I'm not sure they actually deliver anything at all currently - at best they can manage to hide the disaster that are the aircraft carriers. I have no doubt there's good intent somewhere, but it seems hard to discern. The documentaries surrounding the Navy just make things worse.
I see some very useful recruits getting their trainers apparently free of charge. (Alas the ability to actually be an imposing naval figure that could whip them in to shape has also been lost)
Aircraft carriers need functioning escort vessels. I do not think we have those, so the aircraft carriers are doubably pointless.
There's the many admirals pay to consider of course. I wonder how many have actually got a ship at sea under their command as a percentage.
He can say it, he may well mean it. But the public's mental image of him is likely to remain this one;
Unfair? Perhaps. But as he would no doubt say if the boot were on the other foot, life isn't fair.
It's not unfair in the slightest, that is the image he chose to cultivate as he saw it as an advantage.
The worry for him is he doesn't seem to be to have the love of the American online right, probably because he is trying to be more serious about becoming PM and knows (unlike some of his fans) that he needs to appeal more broadly.
"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president we will attack Iran," Clinton said. "In the next ten years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president we will attack Iran," Clinton said. "In the next ten years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
I’m hoping Starmer is contingency planning with other allies like mad today.
If the US does go full-on war crimes overnight, make no mistake that this is essentially the final repudiation of the Western alliance and our interests clearly no longer align with the US. In that scenario our only sensible approach is to build something out of the ashes with Europe, Australia, Japan and Canada. That time might be coming regardless anyway. I think the time for hoping we might be able to keep our heads down for the next 3 years until the US sees sense looks a bit too optimistic now.
Tucker Carlson: "It is vile on every level. It begins with a promise to use the US military, our military, to destroy civilian infrastructure in another country, which is to say, to commit a war crime, a moral crime against the people of the country. Those people who are in direct contact with the president need to say 'No. I'll resign. I'll do whatever I can do legally to stop this, because this is insane. And if given the order, I'm not carrying it out.'"
The only American right I've personally seen making comments against Trump seem to be the antisemitic ones (I clicked on a comment once, and now youtube insists in popping it up for me periodically).
Left-wing derangement syndrome: being more upset about Trump than the Iranian regime.
They've attacked Iran twice during peace talkis and have so far killed 3,000 Iranians. You don't need a derangement syndrome to identify the aggressors in this particular Israeli /US inspired bloodbath
Not often I find myself agreeing with Roger, but there it is.
Most people would be ecstatic if the Iranian regime fell - indeed, had that happened a lot of the collateral damage would have been excused much more easily - but when a likely outcome may be an entrenched albeit battered regime? The 'it is worth the cost' argument is harder to make.
"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president we will attack Iran," Clinton said. "In the next ten years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
Brilliant seeing the Iranians making human shields around their bridges and other infrastuctures. Watching kids add to the human chain is quite inspiring. It makes Trump look like an even bigger turd as it does Vance. If the porker Orban has any sense he'll get the Hungarian News people out of his office.
Tucker Carlson seems to think Turmp is under demonic possession....
Him being fired by Fox makes a lot more sense knowing that.
(Given he was fired after the Dominion lawsuit, when top Fox executives had been the ones freaking out about upsetting Trump and losing viewers, and adjusting their messaging accordingly, singling him out seemed a little odd).
"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president we will attack Iran," Clinton said. "In the next ten years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
Bloody disgrceful that she became president.
Look, comments from 18 years ago which were entirely theoretical are just as relevant to what is going on right now, mister!
Trump's running out of ways to escalate his madman hyperbole, unless he wants to start blowing up the moon or raining Armageddon down on the entire planet or similar.
EXCL HMS Dragon, the only Royal Navy warship deployed to the conflict with Iran has withdrawn to port for repairs and logistics after experiencing issues with its fresh water supplies, the Mail can reveal
Its replacement would have been the Glen Sannox, but...
A very hard look at the RN is due. I'm not sure they actually deliver anything at all currently - at best they can manage to hide the disaster that are the aircraft carriers. I have no doubt there's good intent somewhere, but it seems hard to discern. The documentaries surrounding the Navy just make things worse.
I see some very useful recruits getting their trainers apparently free of charge. (Alas the ability to actually be an imposing naval figure that could whip them in to shape has also been lost)
Aircraft carriers need functioning escort vessels. I do not think we have those, so the aircraft carriers are doubably pointless.
There's the many admirals pay to consider of course. I wonder how many have actually got a ship at sea under their command as a percentage.
To be pedantic, there is actually only one serving full Admiral in the Royal Navy, Sir Keith Blount.
Tucker Carlson: "It is vile on every level. It begins with a promise to use the US military, our military, to destroy civilian infrastructure in another country, which is to say, to commit a war crime, a moral crime against the people of the country. Those people who are in direct contact with the president need to say 'No. I'll resign. I'll do whatever I can do legally to stop this, because this is insane. And if given the order, I'm not carrying it out.'"
The only American right I've personally seen making comments against Trump seem to be the antisemitic ones (I clicked on a comment once, and now youtube insists in popping it up for me periodically).
That’s the big risk for Israel here (not so much for Netanyahu, he’ll be fine somehow, he always is). The US right don’t do self reflection or remorse, so if this ends up going as badly as it’s started they’ll want someone else to blame. And “the Jews” will be there within easy reach.
Badenock should be put in the same straight-jacket as Trump.
Starmer allowed the B1 and B52s to fly out of Fairford to bomb Iran
He did not do an Italy, Spain, or Austria
He's not fellating him in the same way your party's leader is.
Big G knows full well they attacked missile sites threatening uk citizens in Emirates.
He's not stupid, he merely seeks to absolve the gutless gobshite who is leading the Tory Party to extinction.
The B1 and B52s bombed offensively in Iran at the specific approval of Starmer and no amount of abusive rhetoric against Kemi will change that
... and how ever often you repeat that it will not alter the fact that Badenoch would have been far more supportive of Trump and Netanyahu from the outset however hard she tries to back peddle and pretend otherwise.
EXCL HMS Dragon, the only Royal Navy warship deployed to the conflict with Iran has withdrawn to port for repairs and logistics after experiencing issues with its fresh water supplies, the Mail can reveal
Its replacement would have been the Glen Sannox, but...
A very hard look at the RN is due. I'm not sure they actually deliver anything at all currently - at best they can manage to hide the disaster that are the aircraft carriers. I have no doubt there's good intent somewhere, but it seems hard to discern. The documentaries surrounding the Navy just make things worse.
I see some very useful recruits getting their trainers apparently free of charge. (Alas the ability to actually be an imposing naval figure that could whip them in to shape has also been lost)
Aircraft carriers need functioning escort vessels. I do not think we have those, so the aircraft carriers are doubably pointless.
There's the many admirals pay to consider of course. I wonder how many have actually got a ship at sea under their command as a percentage.
There's 131 admirals and flag officers so it seems to be less than 1%.
Trump's running out of ways to escalate his madman hyperbole, unless he wants to start blowing up the moon or raining Armageddon down on the entire planet or similar.
"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president we will attack Iran," Clinton said. "In the next ten years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
Bloody disgrceful that she became president.
Ha! She must be the former president who told Trump they regretted not being ballsy enough to do what he is daring to do. And TDS merchants were saying he was making that up.
Does Starmer really think it would be a good look to back one of Russia's main allies in the war against Ukraine?
He isn't. That is just your rather warped view of it.
Do you not realise that Trump's attack on Iran has done more to help the Russian cause in Ukraine than anything else in the last few years? Not only has he lifted sanctions, denied weapons to Ukraine and split NATO, he has also given Putin a moral and legal basis for his continued attacks. After all, if the USA is okay launching attacks on other countries then why should Russia not do the same?
Whataboutism isn't a "moral and legal basis" for anything, and the last month has seen a big shift in momentum away from Russia. Zelensky is now being welcomed like a king across the Middle East, including in Russia's erstwhile ally of Syria.
There is no whataboutism involved. Trump has started a war of aggression which has helped Russia hugely, both directly by lifting sanctions and indirectly. You are the one who brought up Russia in your first comment that I replied to. You are the one supporting action that is helping Russia and putting many oter countries at risk. You ned a bit more self awareness before you start throwing around those sorts of accusations against others.
I may be exceedingly dim but until very recently (as in the past couple of weeks) it would never have entered my mind that the US might become first-to-resort-to-nuclear weapons.
EXCL HMS Dragon, the only Royal Navy warship deployed to the conflict with Iran has withdrawn to port for repairs and logistics after experiencing issues with its fresh water supplies, the Mail can reveal
Its replacement would have been the Glen Sannox, but...
A very hard look at the RN is due. I'm not sure they actually deliver anything at all currently - at best they can manage to hide the disaster that are the aircraft carriers. I have no doubt there's good intent somewhere, but it seems hard to discern. The documentaries surrounding the Navy just make things worse.
I see some very useful recruits getting their trainers apparently free of charge. (Alas the ability to actually be an imposing naval figure that could whip them in to shape has also been lost)
Aircraft carriers need functioning escort vessels. I do not think we have those, so the aircraft carriers are doubably pointless.
There's the many admirals pay to consider of course. I wonder how many have actually got a ship at sea under their command as a percentage.
There's 131 admirals and flag officers so it seems to be less than 1%.
It would be nice to think at some point we will have a government that asks if we actually need three separate armed forces with three separate command structures, or whether we should merge the lot under one umbrella. Especially since rather a lot of our soldiers serve in the Navy anyway.
That would probably be a big saving if only by allowing for some heavy duty decluttering.
Quite enjoying the Conservatives going full Douglas Ross across social media, 6 hours before nuclear war.
I guess rural communities getting pissed off at travellers is their core vote so a decent strategy. Indeed they might be the only voters left if we have a full nuclear exchange.
EXCL HMS Dragon, the only Royal Navy warship deployed to the conflict with Iran has withdrawn to port for repairs and logistics after experiencing issues with its fresh water supplies, the Mail can reveal
Its replacement would have been the Glen Sannox, but...
A very hard look at the RN is due. I'm not sure they actually deliver anything at all currently - at best they can manage to hide the disaster that are the aircraft carriers. I have no doubt there's good intent somewhere, but it seems hard to discern. The documentaries surrounding the Navy just make things worse.
I see some very useful recruits getting their trainers apparently free of charge. (Alas the ability to actually be an imposing naval figure that could whip them in to shape has also been lost)
Aircraft carriers need functioning escort vessels. I do not think we have those, so the aircraft carriers are doubably pointless.
There's the many admirals pay to consider of course. I wonder how many have actually got a ship at sea under their command as a percentage.
To be pedantic, there is actually only one serving full Admiral in the Royal Navy, Sir Keith Blount.
Well he should be sacked and drummed into the lower decks (we have no lower decks M'Lord - well build them!). Who are the others?
I may be exceedingly dim but until very recently (as in the past couple of weeks) it would never have entered my mind that the US might become first-to-resort-to-nuclear weapons.
To be fair, they were the first, and so far, only power to use nuclear weapons in a war.
"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president we will attack Iran," Clinton said. "In the next ten years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
Bloody disgrceful that she became president.
Ha! She must be the former president who told Trump that they regretted not being ballsy enough to do what he is daring to do.
I reckon it was the 45th President. He was a terrible coward, bone spurs and failed to turn up to his own coup and everything.
I guess rural communities getting pissed off at travellers is their core vote so a decent strategy. Indeed they might be the only voters left if we have a full nuclear exchange.
"How will nuclear war negatively affect your property prices in upper entwistle-on-the-wold?"
I may be exceedingly dim but until very recently (as in the past couple of weeks) it would never have entered my mind that the US might become first-to-resort-to-nuclear weapons.
To be fair, they were the first, and so far, only power to use nuclear weapons in a war.
Weren’t they also conceivably the closest to using nukes in the Cuban Missile Crisis too? There was that potential Soviet submarine miscommunication which could have triggered it, but broadly speaking I think the US was in the greater level of nuclear combat readiness. I may be wrong.
Does Starmer really think it would be a good look to back one of Russia's main allies in the war against Ukraine?
He isn't. That is just your rather warped view of it.
Do you not realise that Trump's attack on Iran has done more to help the Russian cause in Ukraine than anything else in the last few years? Not only has he lifted sanctions, denied weapons to Ukraine and split NATO, he has also given Putin a moral and legal basis for his continued attacks. After all, if the USA is okay launching attacks on other countries then why should Russia not do the same?
Whataboutism isn't a "moral and legal basis" for anything, and the last month has seen a big shift in momentum away from Russia. Zelensky is now being welcomed like a king across the Middle East, including in Russia's erstwhile ally of Syria.
There is no whataboutism involved. Trump has started a war of aggression which has helped Russia hugely, both directly by lifting sanctions and indirectly. You are the one who brought up Russia in your first comment that I replied to. You are the one supporting action that is helping Russia and putting many oter countries at risk. You ned a bit more self awareness before you start throwing around those sorts of accusations against others.
It's not an accusation. Your argument was literally whataboutism: "After all, if the USA is okay launching attacks on other countries then why should Russia not do the same?"
I may be exceedingly dim but until very recently (as in the past couple of weeks) it would never have entered my mind that the US might become first-to-resort-to-nuclear weapons.
To be fair, they were the first, and so far, only power to use nuclear weapons in a war.
Weren’t they also conceivably the closest to using nukes in the Cuban Missile Crisis too? There was that potential Soviet submarine miscommunication which could have triggered it, but broadly speaking I think the US was in the greater level of nuclear combat readiness. I may be wrong.
The US had no intention of using nuclear weapons or indeed any other weapons in the CMC. Their blockade ships were under specific orders not to open fire if Soviet ships ignored their challenge.
It was a giant bluff which Khrushchev decided not to call. To misquote Robert Bolt, he decided 'it is not worth the whole world to launch nuclear war - less for Cuba.'
Trump's running out of ways to escalate his madman hyperbole, unless he wants to start blowing up the moon or raining Armageddon down on the entire planet or similar.
If he wants to keep people hyped after the recent space success, be the centre of the attention, and do the most american thing possible involving a big gun which would also intimidate enemies, I suggest he reenacts 'From the Earth to the Moon' by Jules Verne and has himself shot into space.
Does Starmer really think it would be a good look to back one of Russia's main allies in the war against Ukraine?
He isn't. That is just your rather warped view of it.
Do you not realise that Trump's attack on Iran has done more to help the Russian cause in Ukraine than anything else in the last few years? Not only has he lifted sanctions, denied weapons to Ukraine and split NATO, he has also given Putin a moral and legal basis for his continued attacks. After all, if the USA is okay launching attacks on other countries then why should Russia not do the same?
Whataboutism isn't a "moral and legal basis" for anything, and the last month has seen a big shift in momentum away from Russia. Zelensky is now being welcomed like a king across the Middle East, including in Russia's erstwhile ally of Syria.
There is no whataboutism involved. Trump has started a war of aggression which has helped Russia hugely, both directly by lifting sanctions and indirectly. You are the one who brought up Russia in your first comment that I replied to. You are the one supporting action that is helping Russia and putting many oter countries at risk. You ned a bit more self awareness before you start throwing around those sorts of accusations against others.
It's not an accusation. Your argument was literally whataboutism: "After all, if the USA is okay launching attacks on other countries then why should Russia not do the same?"
And quoting Hillary Clinton from 2008 is not whataboutery?
UN resolution on taking action to reopen Strait of Hormuz vetoed by Russia and China
The UN resolution on the Strait of Hormuz has been vetoed by Russia and China.
Eleven representatives voted in favour, while two parties voted against, and two abstained.
The initial Bahrain proposal would have authorised countries to use "all necessary means" - UN wording that would include military action - to ensure transit through the Strait of Hormuz and deter attempts to close it.
After Russia, China and France, all veto-wielding countries on the 15-member Security Council, expressed opposition to approving the use of force, the resolution was revised to eliminate all references to offensive action.
It would have authorised only "all defensive means necessary".
But Russia and China still vetoed the amended proposal.
World warned of 'grave consequences' if UN doesn't act
Before Russia and China vetoed the proposal to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, Bahrain's UN representative was making the case for it.
Bahrain's foreign minister Abdullatif bin Rashid Al Zayani said the resolution did not "constitute a new reality" but did aim to provide a "serious response to a pattern of recurring hostile Iranian behaviour, behaviour that must cease".
"Let us be clear. a failure to act today would entail grave consequences for the world and for humanity," he added.
After the resolution failed, Zayani said: "The council failed to shoulder its responsibility in relation to an illegal conduct that requires decisive action with no delay."
I may be exceedingly dim but until very recently (as in the past couple of weeks) it would never have entered my mind that the US might become first-to-resort-to-nuclear weapons.
To be fair, they were the first, and so far, only power to use nuclear weapons in a war.
Weren’t they also conceivably the closest to using nukes in the Cuban Missile Crisis too? There was that potential Soviet submarine miscommunication which could have triggered it, but broadly speaking I think the US was in the greater level of nuclear combat readiness. I may be wrong.
The US had no intention of using nuclear weapons or indeed any other weapons in the CMC. Their blockade ships were under specific orders not to open fire if Soviet ships ignored their challenge.
It was a giant bluff which Khrushchev decided not to call. To misquote Robert Bolt, he decided 'it is not worth the whole world to launch nuclear war - less for Cuba.'
Afterward, the US quietly withdrew nukes from eastern Turkey, which had riled Nikita in the first place...
EXCL HMS Dragon, the only Royal Navy warship deployed to the conflict with Iran has withdrawn to port for repairs and logistics after experiencing issues with its fresh water supplies, the Mail can reveal
Its replacement would have been the Glen Sannox, but...
A very hard look at the RN is due. I'm not sure they actually deliver anything at all currently - at best they can manage to hide the disaster that are the aircraft carriers. I have no doubt there's good intent somewhere, but it seems hard to discern. The documentaries surrounding the Navy just make things worse.
I see some very useful recruits getting their trainers apparently free of charge. (Alas the ability to actually be an imposing naval figure that could whip them in to shape has also been lost)
Aircraft carriers need functioning escort vessels. I do not think we have those, so the aircraft carriers are doubably pointless.
We don't: we have to borrow some from other nations. We also do not have enough oilers and replenishment vessels to service them at sea. We also also have ships being abruptly decommissioned because after too many years of service they break down catastrophically.
I know I keep banging on about Starmer's manifest unsuitability for the job, and nobody listens because his duckspeak repetition of "international law" and ventriloqual control by Miliband regarding the Iran war is popular, but he really should be smacked for his (lack of) actions regarding the deliquescence of the armed forces. It's not funny any more.
Brilliant seeing the Iranians making human shields around their bridges and other infrastuctures. Watching kids add to the human chain is quite inspiring. It makes Trump look like an even bigger turd as it does Vance. If the porker Orban has any sense he'll get the Hungarian News people out of his office.
I think it unlikely that these human shields have a choice.
I may be exceedingly dim but until very recently (as in the past couple of weeks) it would never have entered my mind that the US might become first-to-resort-to-nuclear weapons.
To be fair, they were the first, and so far, only power to use nuclear weapons in a war.
Weren’t they also conceivably the closest to using nukes in the Cuban Missile Crisis too? There was that potential Soviet submarine miscommunication which could have triggered it, but broadly speaking I think the US was in the greater level of nuclear combat readiness. I may be wrong.
The US had no intention of using nuclear weapons or indeed any other weapons in the CMC. Their blockade ships were under specific orders not to open fire if Soviet ships ignored their challenge.
It was a giant bluff which Khrushchev decided not to call. To misquote Robert Bolt, he decided 'it is not worth the whole world to launch nuclear war - less for Cuba.'
Afterward, the US quietly withdrew nukes from eastern Turkey, which had riled Nikita in the first place...
It should be noted, however, that they had already been planning to do so because they were obsolete. They just brought it forward by five months.
Does Starmer really think it would be a good look to back one of Russia's main allies in the war against Ukraine?
He isn't. That is just your rather warped view of it.
Do you not realise that Trump's attack on Iran has done more to help the Russian cause in Ukraine than anything else in the last few years? Not only has he lifted sanctions, denied weapons to Ukraine and split NATO, he has also given Putin a moral and legal basis for his continued attacks. After all, if the USA is okay launching attacks on other countries then why should Russia not do the same?
Whataboutism isn't a "moral and legal basis" for anything, and the last month has seen a big shift in momentum away from Russia. Zelensky is now being welcomed like a king across the Middle East, including in Russia's erstwhile ally of Syria.
There is no whataboutism involved. Trump has started a war of aggression which has helped Russia hugely, both directly by lifting sanctions and indirectly. You are the one who brought up Russia in your first comment that I replied to. You are the one supporting action that is helping Russia and putting many oter countries at risk. You ned a bit more self awareness before you start throwing around those sorts of accusations against others.
It's not an accusation. Your argument was literally whataboutism: "After all, if the USA is okay launching attacks on other countries then why should Russia not do the same?"
I may be exceedingly dim but until very recently (as in the past couple of weeks) it would never have entered my mind that the US might become first-to-resort-to-nuclear weapons.
To be fair, they were the first, and so far, only power to use nuclear weapons in a war.
Yes, I was thinking of that as I wrote my comment. I don't think the two situations are comparable.
Brilliant seeing the Iranians making human shields around their bridges and other infrastuctures. Watching kids add to the human chain is quite inspiring. It makes Trump look like an even bigger turd as it does Vance. If the porker Orban has any sense he'll get the Hungarian News people out of his office.
I think it unlikely that these human shields have a choice.
I'm sure they had a choice.
Just as Lord Vetinari gave that thief a choice. Of his own free will he chose to become a spy. The alternative was of his own free will to choose to be thrown into the scorpion pit.
Badenock should be put in the same straight-jacket as Trump.
Starmer allowed the B1 and B52s to fly out of Fairford to bomb Iran
He did not do an Italy, Spain, or Austria
He's not fellating him in the same way your party's leader is.
Big G knows full well they attacked missile sites threatening uk citizens in Emirates.
He's not stupid, he merely seeks to absolve the gutless gobshite who is leading the Tory Party to extinction.
The B1 and B52s bombed offensively in Iran at the specific approval of Starmer and no amount of abusive rhetoric against Kemi will change that
... and how ever often you repeat that it will not alter the fact that Badenoch would have been far more supportive of Trump and Netanyahu from the outset however hard she tries to back peddle and pretend otherwise.
The question is, is there any evidence her alleged stance has affected her politically in the voters mind, not just on a political forum ?
Trump told Fox News that based on progress in negotiations, he may extend his deadline to escalate against infrastructure targets in Iran.
Would be the fourth time he has done so.
And zero negotiations each time.
I can believe something is going on, but with whom and what level in Iran?
Trump clearly wants to be done as soon as possible, so what incentive is there for the Iranians to play ball? The deaths of their people and further destruction of their military? Sure, they don't want that, but can they weather it?
Does Starmer really think it would be a good look to back one of Russia's main allies in the war against Ukraine?
He isn't. That is just your rather warped view of it.
Do you not realise that Trump's attack on Iran has done more to help the Russian cause in Ukraine than anything else in the last few years? Not only has he lifted sanctions, denied weapons to Ukraine and split NATO, he has also given Putin a moral and legal basis for his continued attacks. After all, if the USA is okay launching attacks on other countries then why should Russia not do the same?
Whataboutism isn't a "moral and legal basis" for anything, and the last month has seen a big shift in momentum away from Russia. Zelensky is now being welcomed like a king across the Middle East, including in Russia's erstwhile ally of Syria.
There is no whataboutism involved. Trump has started a war of aggression which has helped Russia hugely, both directly by lifting sanctions and indirectly. You are the one who brought up Russia in your first comment that I replied to. You are the one supporting action that is helping Russia and putting many oter countries at risk. You ned a bit more self awareness before you start throwing around those sorts of accusations against others.
It's not an accusation. Your argument was literally whataboutism: "After all, if the USA is okay launching attacks on other countries then why should Russia not do the same?"
Trump told Fox News that based on progress in negotiations, he may extend his deadline to escalate against infrastructure targets in Iran.
Would be the fourth time he has done so.
And zero negotiations each time.
I can believe something is going on, but with whom and what level in Iran?
Trump clearly wants to be done as soon as possible, so what incentive is there for the Iranians to play ball? The deaths of their people and further destruction of their military? Sure, they don't want that, but can they weather it?
Can they stop it - given that I suspect the Iranian leadership haven’t got a clue who is talking to Trump
Trump told Fox News that based on progress in negotiations, he may extend his deadline to escalate against infrastructure targets in Iran.
Would be the fourth time he has done so.
And zero negotiations each time.
I can believe something is going on, but with whom and what level in Iran?
Trump clearly wants to be done as soon as possible, so what incentive is there for the Iranians to play ball? The deaths of their people and further destruction of their military? Sure, they don't want that, but can they weather it?
Can they stop it - given that I suspect the Iranian leadership haven’t got a clue who is talking to Trump
The Strait of Hormuz has given Iranians the Trump card !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trump told Fox News that based on progress in negotiations, he may extend his deadline to escalate against infrastructure targets in Iran.
Would be the fourth time he has done so.
And zero negotiations each time.
I can believe something is going on, but with whom and what level in Iran?
Trump clearly wants to be done as soon as possible, so what incentive is there for the Iranians to play ball? The deaths of their people and further destruction of their military? Sure, they don't want that, but can they weather it?
Can they stop it - given that I suspect the Iranian leadership haven’t got a clue who is talking to Trump
At this point I imagine Trump is negotiating with a glove puppet on his right hand.
Brilliant seeing the Iranians making human shields around their bridges and other infrastuctures. Watching kids add to the human chain is quite inspiring. It makes Trump look like an even bigger turd as it does Vance. If the porker Orban has any sense he'll get the Hungarian News people out of his office.
I think it unlikely that these human shields have a choice.
I'm sure they had a choice.
Just as Lord Vetinari gave that thief a choice. Of his own free will he chose to become a spy. The alternative was of his own free will to choose to be thrown into the scorpion pit.
Puts his more sanitised quote in a different, less positive, light.
No practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed, it is the freedom upon which all the others are based.
Depends, if the evil Iranian regime falls many will welcome that if it is the result of Trump's actions. If they lead to a lot of deaths with the regime still in place then they won't
Trump's running out of ways to escalate his madman hyperbole, unless he wants to start blowing up the moon or raining Armageddon down on the entire planet or similar.
Quick, somebody give him a puppy so he can threaten to shoot it. Golden Retriever, obviously.
Does Starmer really think it would be a good look to back one of Russia's main allies in the war against Ukraine?
He isn't. That is just your rather warped view of it.
Do you not realise that Trump's attack on Iran has done more to help the Russian cause in Ukraine than anything else in the last few years? Not only has he lifted sanctions, denied weapons to Ukraine and split NATO, he has also given Putin a moral and legal basis for his continued attacks. After all, if the USA is okay launching attacks on other countries then why should Russia not do the same?
Whataboutism isn't a "moral and legal basis" for anything, and the last month has seen a big shift in momentum away from Russia. Zelensky is now being welcomed like a king across the Middle East, including in Russia's erstwhile ally of Syria.
There is no whataboutism involved. Trump has started a war of aggression which has helped Russia hugely, both directly by lifting sanctions and indirectly. You are the one who brought up Russia in your first comment that I replied to. You are the one supporting action that is helping Russia and putting many oter countries at risk. You ned a bit more self awareness before you start throwing around those sorts of accusations against others.
It's not an accusation. Your argument was literally whataboutism: "After all, if the USA is okay launching attacks on other countries then why should Russia not do the same?"
You are the one who raised Russia in your very first comment. Trying to claim that those opposing Trump were helpoing Russia. So get back in your hole and stop trying to squirm out of it. As I said earlier, morally, legally (and I will add logically and practically) your hero Trump is in the wrong. It is he who is helping Russia not the rest of the West who think he is a dangerous lunatic.
The question is, if the deadline for annihilation has been pushed back (because of real or imagined negotiations), how much time is gained until the next deadline?
Let's say someone is being talked to and they actually have the ability to enact an agreement if they make one on behalf of Iran, what are they supposed to do to demonstrate adherence? Opening the strait? I would imagine it would take a little while for ships to pass through in big numbers, and a more gradual increasing of the ones willing to chance it (over and above the ones currently doing so).
Quite enjoying the Conservatives going full Douglas Ross across social media, 6 hours before nuclear war.
I guess rural communities getting pissed off at travellers is their core vote so a decent strategy. Indeed they might be the only voters left if we have a full nuclear exchange.
Given Starmer again refuses to support Trump's actions we will again be spectators on this
Does Starmer really think it would be a good look to back one of Russia's main allies in the war against Ukraine?
He isn't. That is just your rather warped view of it.
Do you not realise that Trump's attack on Iran has done more to help the Russian cause in Ukraine than anything else in the last few years? Not only has he lifted sanctions, denied weapons to Ukraine and split NATO, he has also given Putin a moral and legal basis for his continued attacks. After all, if the USA is okay launching attacks on other countries then why should Russia not do the same?
Whataboutism isn't a "moral and legal basis" for anything, and the last month has seen a big shift in momentum away from Russia. Zelensky is now being welcomed like a king across the Middle East, including in Russia's erstwhile ally of Syria.
There is no whataboutism involved. Trump has started a war of aggression which has helped Russia hugely, both directly by lifting sanctions and indirectly. You are the one who brought up Russia in your first comment that I replied to. You are the one supporting action that is helping Russia and putting many oter countries at risk. You ned a bit more self awareness before you start throwing around those sorts of accusations against others.
It's not an accusation. Your argument was literally whataboutism: "After all, if the USA is okay launching attacks on other countries then why should Russia not do the same?"
You are the one who raised Russia in your very first comment.
Does Starmer really think it would be a good look to back one of Russia's main allies in the war against Ukraine?
He isn't. That is just your rather warped view of it.
Do you not realise that Trump's attack on Iran has done more to help the Russian cause in Ukraine than anything else in the last few years? Not only has he lifted sanctions, denied weapons to Ukraine and split NATO, he has also given Putin a moral and legal basis for his continued attacks. After all, if the USA is okay launching attacks on other countries then why should Russia not do the same?
Whataboutism isn't a "moral and legal basis" for anything, and the last month has seen a big shift in momentum away from Russia. Zelensky is now being welcomed like a king across the Middle East, including in Russia's erstwhile ally of Syria.
There is no whataboutism involved. Trump has started a war of aggression which has helped Russia hugely, both directly by lifting sanctions and indirectly. You are the one who brought up Russia in your first comment that I replied to. You are the one supporting action that is helping Russia and putting many oter countries at risk. You ned a bit more self awareness before you start throwing around those sorts of accusations against others.
It's not an accusation. Your argument was literally whataboutism: "After all, if the USA is okay launching attacks on other countries then why should Russia not do the same?"
Trump and Putin are buddies.
Are we the buddies?
One of my all time favourite sketches along with Armstrong and Miller's "Archaeology is f***ing boring"
Quite enjoying the Conservatives going full Douglas Ross across social media, 6 hours before nuclear war.
I guess rural communities getting pissed off at travellers is their core vote so a decent strategy. Indeed they might be the only voters left if we have a full nuclear exchange.
Given Starmer again refuses to support Trump's actions we will again be spectators on this
Good, because that's the only sane practical thing to be.
He can say it, he may well mean it. But the public's mental image of him is likely to remain this one;
Unfair? Perhaps. But as he would no doubt say if the boot were on the other foot, life isn't fair.
Hilarious. He can’t just say Trump is wrong there’s always some caveat.
In this case, comparing Trump with Churchill. ..He’s wholly unconventional but I would remind you of what Churchill said about the bombing of Germany during the war. Some quite extraordinary things were said there as well..
Brilliant seeing the Iranians making human shields around their bridges and other infrastuctures. Watching kids add to the human chain is quite inspiring. It makes Trump look like an even bigger turd as it does Vance. If the porker Orban has any sense he'll get the Hungarian News people out of his office.
I think it unlikely that these human shields have a choice.
I'm sure they had a choice.
Just as Lord Vetinari gave that thief a choice. Of his own free will he chose to become a spy. The alternative was of his own free will to choose to be thrown into the scorpion pit.
Puts his more sanitised quote in a different, less positive, light.
No practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed, it is the freedom upon which all the others are based.
Going Postal is a great book for showing some of the steel behind the enlightened autocrat, some great lines.
"One more uninvited outburst from you and you will be imprisoned. I hope that is clear?" "On what charge?" "There doesn't have to be one!"
We could do with a leader like him - he knew how to grow the economy at least.
this is a wild story. this level of detail cannot come without many of the principles talking to the reporters. this reads to me a whole lot like vance and rubio - especially - trying to cut their losses and throw the president under the bus. it's like something from W's second term circa 2007.
He can say it, he may well mean it. But the public's mental image of him is likely to remain this one;
Unfair? Perhaps. But as he would no doubt say if the boot were on the other foot, life isn't fair.
Hilarious. He can’t just say Trump is wrong there’s always some caveat.
In this case, comparing Trump with Churchill. ..He’s wholly unconventional but I would remind you of what Churchill said about the bombing of Germany during the war. Some quite extraordinary things were said there as well..
So Trump hasn't actually gone way too far after all, in his eyes, so why even say it - it will just annoy Trump if he sees it.
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Unfair? Perhaps. But as he would no doubt say if the boot were on the other foot, life isn't fair.
The rest of the West needs to learn from this. We cannot rely on perfidious USA when a few tens of thousands of voters in a few rural counties can put a madman in the White House.
Jack Shaw
@JackTShaw
The House of Commons Library has published maps of the proposed boundaries for new local authorities which will hold their first elections in May 2027 and take on their full powers in April 2028.
https://x.com/JackTShaw/status/2041478531436126218
It's not as though Trump would remember Farage generally being nice to him, if he gets wind of this criticism either. He doesn't store up gratitude.
The worry for him is he doesn't seem to be to have the love of the American online right, probably because he is trying to be more serious about becoming PM and knows (unlike some of his fans) that he needs to appeal more broadly.
https://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/04/clintons-tough-talk-008026
"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president we will attack Iran," Clinton said. "In the next ten years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
If there was some sort of good line or lines then it'd be great.
If the US does go full-on war crimes overnight, make no mistake that this is essentially the final repudiation of the Western alliance and our interests clearly no longer align with the US. In that scenario our only sensible approach is to build something out of the ashes with Europe, Australia, Japan and Canada. That time might be coming regardless anyway. I think the time for hoping we might be able to keep our heads down for the next 3 years until the US sees sense looks a bit too optimistic now.
Most people would be ecstatic if the Iranian regime fell - indeed, had that happened a lot of the collateral damage would have been excused much more easily - but when a likely outcome may be an entrenched albeit battered regime? The 'it is worth the cost' argument is harder to make.
Very clear message.
Global, National and Local.
(Given he was fired after the Dominion lawsuit, when top Fox executives had been the ones freaking out about upsetting Trump and losing viewers, and adjusting their messaging accordingly, singling him out seemed a little odd).
Oh, sorry, you didn't mean Starmer?
'Not only has Trump had a piss in a bed, he's also had a shit in a lift.'
That would probably be a big saving if only by allowing for some heavy duty decluttering.
I guess rural communities getting pissed off at travellers is their core vote so a decent strategy. Indeed they might be the only voters left if we have a full nuclear exchange.
Trump told Fox News that based on progress in negotiations, he may extend his deadline to escalate against infrastructure targets in Iran.
Would be the fourth time he has done so.
C***.
It was a giant bluff which Khrushchev decided not to call. To misquote Robert Bolt, he decided 'it is not worth the whole world to launch nuclear war - less for Cuba.'
The UN resolution on the Strait of Hormuz has been vetoed by Russia and China.
Eleven representatives voted in favour, while two parties voted against, and two abstained.
The initial Bahrain proposal would have authorised countries to use "all necessary means" - UN wording that would include military action - to ensure transit through the Strait of Hormuz and deter attempts to close it.
After Russia, China and France, all veto-wielding countries on the 15-member Security Council, expressed opposition to approving the use of force, the resolution was revised to eliminate all references to offensive action.
It would have authorised only "all defensive means necessary".
But Russia and China still vetoed the amended proposal.
World warned of 'grave consequences' if UN doesn't act
Before Russia and China vetoed the proposal to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, Bahrain's UN representative was making the case for it.
Bahrain's foreign minister Abdullatif bin Rashid Al Zayani said the resolution did not "constitute a new reality" but did aim to provide a "serious response to a pattern of recurring hostile Iranian behaviour, behaviour that must cease".
"Let us be clear. a failure to act today would entail grave consequences for the world and for humanity," he added.
After the resolution failed, Zayani said: "The council failed to shoulder its responsibility in relation to an illegal conduct that requires decisive action with no delay."
I keep recommending this channel: https://www.youtube.com/@WarshipsAndWarriors/videos
I know I keep banging on about Starmer's manifest unsuitability for the job, and nobody listens because his duckspeak repetition of "international law" and ventriloqual control by Miliband regarding the Iran war is popular, but he really should be smacked for his (lack of) actions regarding the deliquescence of the armed forces. It's not funny any more.
Just as Lord Vetinari gave that thief a choice. Of his own free will he chose to become a spy. The alternative was of his own free will to choose to be thrown into the scorpion pit.
If there is then OK, but where is it ?
my youngest grandson returns from The Waste. No food again, just metal scraps. But he's so proud, and wants a reward.
"Tell me again about The Great Before. Tell me why The Green went away," he begs.
"in the Before," I begin, "people had questions about who should participate in women's sports..."
https://bsky.app/profile/rodger.bsky.social/post/3mivwjca3tc22
Trump clearly wants to be done as soon as possible, so what incentive is there for the Iranians to play ball? The deaths of their people and further destruction of their military? Sure, they don't want that, but can they weather it?
Principally by neo-Nazis with very small brains.
The thing with madman theory is that sometimes the madman is mad
https://nitter.poast.org/yuanyi_z/status/2041543660563562798#m
No practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed, it is the freedom upon which all the others are based.
Let's say someone is being talked to and they actually have the ability to enact an agreement if they make one on behalf of Iran, what are they supposed to do to demonstrate adherence? Opening the strait? I would imagine it would take a little while for ships to pass through in big numbers, and a more gradual increasing of the ones willing to chance it (over and above the ones currently doing so).
Shakespeare's quote about being "told by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing" is completely apt.
But the Americans have a much more succint term for their 47th President: "blowhard".
front page photo / headline juxtaposition
https://bsky.app/profile/harrywallop.co.uk/post/3mivcqkfijs22
(Congrats on not going 'first')
..He’s wholly unconventional but I would remind you of what Churchill said about the bombing of Germany during the war. Some quite extraordinary things were said there as well..
Somebody is frantically leaking that he thought the whole Iran scheme was a REALLY bad idea the whole time...
https://x.com/LizWebsterSBF/status/2041560487150735480
"One more uninvited outburst from you and you will be imprisoned. I hope that is clear?"
"On what charge?"
"There doesn't have to be one!"
We could do with a leader like him - he knew how to grow the economy at least.
this is a wild story. this level of detail cannot come without many of the principles talking to the reporters. this reads to me a whole lot like vance and rubio - especially - trying to cut their losses and throw the president under the bus. it's like something from W's second term circa 2007.
https://bsky.app/profile/eliasisquith.blog/post/3miwf5dr3zc2j