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How anti-Reform tactical voting could deny the SNP a majority – politicalbetting.com

NEW: Scottish Parliament Voting Intention (Constituency Vote)SNP 35% (-2)RFM 19% (+2)LAB 19% (+1)CON 11% (-1)LD 8% (-1)GRN 8% (+2)F/w 16th-23rd March 2026. Changes vs 25/02/2026 Read more: https://t.co/baFIlaY5VR?1/5 pic.twitter.com/86Wc6lVa1F

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  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 13,330
    First. All a bit complicated for me.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,750
    “Forget about the Straights of Hormuz, what about the gays of Hormuz?”

    https://x.com/geiger_capital/status/2038729125653819515

    Yet more evidence that last weekend’s protestors didn’t have a clue what they were actually protesting…
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,685
    "Karl Turner has Labour whip suspended after criticism of Starmer and No 10"

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/31/karl-turner-labour-whip-suspended
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,462
    Andy_JS said:

    "Karl Turner has Labour whip suspended after criticism of Starmer and No 10"

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/31/karl-turner-labour-whip-suspended

    Starmer is a very petty politician.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 62,035

    Andy_JS said:

    "Karl Turner has Labour whip suspended after criticism of Starmer and No 10"

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/31/karl-turner-labour-whip-suspended

    Starmer is a very petty politician.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if it was McSwindle who orchestrated it - his own position is a bit rocky and, like Peter Mandelson, he lives for infighting and petty revenge.
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 326
    As a resident in Scotland, I confess that I find the offering of all the parties for the upcoming Holyrood elections deeply, deeply depressing.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,462
    Battlebus said:

    Another Reform leaflet ostensibly from Jenrick blaming the immigrants. Posted to see if the messaging here on the South Coast is different from elsewhere.

    We have very few immigrants here (apart from my family) in this very white / true blue constituency. Wondering why we have his attention.


    Honest Bob has tapped into a rich seam of racism that he believes will propel him up Farage's greasy poll.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,462

    Andy_JS said:

    "Karl Turner has Labour whip suspended after criticism of Starmer and No 10"

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/31/karl-turner-labour-whip-suspended

    Starmer is a very petty politician.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if it was McSwindle who orchestrated it - his own position is a bit rocky and, like Peter Mandelson, he lives for infighting and petty revenge.
    Isn't McSweeney's career as dead as Mandelson's.
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,450

    Andy_JS said:

    "Karl Turner has Labour whip suspended after criticism of Starmer and No 10"

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/31/karl-turner-labour-whip-suspended

    Starmer is a very petty politician.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if it was McSwindle who orchestrated it - his own position is a bit rocky and, like Peter Mandelson, he lives for infighting and petty revenge.
    Isn't McSweeney's career as dead as Mandelson's.
    It took 30 years for Mandelson's career to stop twitching. Do we really have to wait that long for McSweeney's?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 62,035
    edited 2:35PM

    Andy_JS said:

    "Karl Turner has Labour whip suspended after criticism of Starmer and No 10"

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/31/karl-turner-labour-whip-suspended

    Starmer is a very petty politician.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if it was McSwindle who orchestrated it - his own position is a bit rocky and, like Peter Mandelson, he lives for infighting and petty revenge.
    Isn't McSweeney's career as dead as Mandelson's.
    Not yet. Hasnt reached the stage of people not answering the phone when he calls etc.

    Given Damien McBride managed to come back…
  • PaulMPaulM Posts: 640
    The idea that 42% of Scots would prefer a Reform first minister to a Labour one is startling in a centre left country where at the last election Reform and the Tories combined were below 20%.

    Can only assume there must be a huge amount of anyone but Labour bad blood in the SNP voting base. But still....
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,077
    @TerryMoran

    Trump at war:

    1. Start war. Do not tell allies.

    2. Blow stuff up.

    3. Demand regime change.

    4. Blow up more stuff.

    5. Demand unconditional surrender.

    6. Get angry when enemy fights back.

    7. Make threats.

    8. Back down. Repeat.

    9. Demand allies finish war.

    10. Walk away.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038955268491321740?s=20

    No Global Superpower has ever lost this hard, this fast.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 62,035
    Foss said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Karl Turner has Labour whip suspended after criticism of Starmer and No 10"

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/31/karl-turner-labour-whip-suspended

    Starmer is a very petty politician.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if it was McSwindle who orchestrated it - his own position is a bit rocky and, like Peter Mandelson, he lives for infighting and petty revenge.
    Isn't McSweeney's career as dead as Mandelson's.
    It took 30 years for Mandelson's career to stop twitching. Do we really have to wait that long for McSweeney's?
    Hammer Horror Does Politics - there’s always a sequel.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,907
    edited 2:41PM
    Betfair odds are moving very steadily in the direction of Starmer surviving for quite some time.

    Less than 6 weeks ago, his exit in 2026 Q2 was trading around 4. It's now 11.5.

    Later periods have all shortened to offset the above, but now in the last 10 days 2026 Q3 has gone into reverse and also started drifting - from below 2.5 to now around 2.8.

    Every day that goes by it's looking increasingly likely he survives until next year. Quite apart from the war there is the practical issue that the King's speech is immediately after the Local election results making a challenge unrealistic at that time.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,041
    Rather glad i checked i was registered to vote after my move in November. I'm not!
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,450

    Foss said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Karl Turner has Labour whip suspended after criticism of Starmer and No 10"

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/31/karl-turner-labour-whip-suspended

    Starmer is a very petty politician.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if it was McSwindle who orchestrated it - his own position is a bit rocky and, like Peter Mandelson, he lives for infighting and petty revenge.
    Isn't McSweeney's career as dead as Mandelson's.
    It took 30 years for Mandelson's career to stop twitching. Do we really have to wait that long for McSweeney's?
    Hammer Horror Does Politics - there’s always a sequel.
    Starring Christopher Lee as Peter Mandelson....
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,479

    Andy_JS said:

    "Karl Turner has Labour whip suspended after criticism of Starmer and No 10"

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/31/karl-turner-labour-whip-suspended

    Starmer is a very petty politician.
    For "very petty politician"

    I think wanker is a better summary of what SKS is
  • eekeek Posts: 33,150
    Scott_xP said:

    @TerryMoran

    Trump at war:

    1. Start war. Do not tell allies.

    2. Blow stuff up.

    3. Demand regime change.

    4. Blow up more stuff.

    5. Demand unconditional surrender.

    6. Get angry when enemy fights back.

    7. Make threats.

    8. Back down. Repeat.

    9. Demand allies finish war.

    10. Walk away.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038955268491321740?s=20

    No Global Superpower has ever lost this hard, this fast.

    Terry did an interview with Trump - this comment immediately below that covers a question regarding what Trump is like

    Sure. He seemed to me to be a guy who has two ways of dealing with people. Charm or fury. You get the charm if you kiss his a** or he needs something from you. And you get the fury if you don't kiss his a*** and challenge him.

    The key thing is that in the second case, he wants a fight on his terms. He wants you to take him on at his level of rage and insults and hollering. His tactic is to to tear you apart verbally, wound you, so that your blood boils and you try to fight back on his level, get down in the muck with him.

    But what if you're respectful--while still challenging him? What if you treat him in a calm, polite way, while standing up to him? He has no idea what to do with that. He's counting on his opponents to fight on his level.

    Think of Mark Carney. Trump hates that guy. Because Carney pushes back--hard. Stands up for himself and his country--very, very calmly. Still very tough. And Trump cannot deal with that.

    My goal in that interview was not to fight with him, but to confront him respectfully and forcefully with legitimate questions I thought people would want answered. I could tell it flummoxed him. At one point, Trump threatened to cut off the interview. I gave him no reason to do so. I simply told him we were going to finish. He sagged back in his chair. You can see it in the video; go look.

    At he end of the interview, Trump stormed out. ABC had arranged for a walk through the Rose Garden Concrete Patio. "NOT AFTER THAT INTERVIEW!" he barked. Stormed out. Susie Wiles and a Disney VP who was there had to beg him to come back--because ABC had booked an hour of prime time, and we were short. That's when he sat at the Resolute Desk and babbled about the Declaration of Independence. He wouldn't look at me. Still rattled.

    In the middle of the interview, as he got angrier and angrier at me, I remember looking into his eyes--narrowed and flashing with his emotion, a little bloodshot from all the makeup--and I thought, he's mean. But he's not tough.

    I think that's what we are seeing in this war.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038983208855859577?s=20
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,756
    FPT: Reminder: Under the US Constitution impeachment is equivalent to an indictment; after the House impeaches an official, they must be tried by the Senate. So, both Clinton and his friend, the Loser, were impeached, the Loser, twice. But neither were removed because a sufficient Senate majorities did not vote to convict either man.

    Here's an extended discussion of the Clinton impeachment and trial:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_trial_of_Bill_Clinton

    For the record: I think both were guilty, but will let lawyers argue whether they were guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
  • isamisam Posts: 43,918
    Andy_JS said:

    "Karl Turner has Labour whip suspended after criticism of Starmer and No 10"

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/31/karl-turner-labour-whip-suspended

    I I am being told that I have had the whip suspended but I have not had any notification from the whips about this. It seems journalists have been told but I have not.

    https://x.com/karlturnermp/status/2038960901185769693?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,545
    JD Vance has a new book about his faith

    https://x.com/jdvance/status/2038982807536492876
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,963

    China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi and his Pakistani counterpart Ishaq Dar have released a five-point initiative aimed at “restoring peace and stability” in the Gulf and Iran following talks in Beijing.

    The five points are as follows:

    China and Pakistan have called for the “immediate cessation of hostilities” and efforts to prevent the conflict from spreading.
    Peace talks should begin as soon as possible, while ensuring the sovereignty and security of Iran and Gulf states. The two countries added that they would support all parties in initiating these talks.
    Attacks on civilians and non-military targets must end.
    The Strait of Hormuz’s shipping lanes must be secured.
    A comprehensive peace framework, in line with the UN Charter, must be established.

    There's a guy in today's NY Times arguing that something like the treaty of Montreux (Bosphorus strait) may be needed.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,462

    Foss said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Karl Turner has Labour whip suspended after criticism of Starmer and No 10"

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/31/karl-turner-labour-whip-suspended

    Starmer is a very petty politician.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if it was McSwindle who orchestrated it - his own position is a bit rocky and, like Peter Mandelson, he lives for infighting and petty revenge.
    Isn't McSweeney's career as dead as Mandelson's.
    It took 30 years for Mandelson's career to stop twitching. Do we really have to wait that long for McSweeney's?
    Hammer Horror Does Politics - there’s always a sequel.
    Funny you should say that. The chap who owns Hammer was a major bankroller of Boris Johnson.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/billionaire-hands-250k-tories-despite-26393794
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,372

    Foss said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Karl Turner has Labour whip suspended after criticism of Starmer and No 10"

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/31/karl-turner-labour-whip-suspended

    Starmer is a very petty politician.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if it was McSwindle who orchestrated it - his own position is a bit rocky and, like Peter Mandelson, he lives for infighting and petty revenge.
    Isn't McSweeney's career as dead as Mandelson's.
    It took 30 years for Mandelson's career to stop twitching. Do we really have to wait that long for McSweeney's?
    Hammer Horror Does Politics - there’s always a sequel.
    Funny you should say that. The chap who owns Hammer was a major bankroller of Boris Johnson.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/billionaire-hands-250k-tories-despite-26393794
    Well, he was used to funding bizarre and unconvincing horror shows starring improbable actors.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,813
    Scott_xP said:

    @TerryMoran

    Trump at war:

    1. Start war. Do not tell allies.

    2. Blow stuff up.

    3. Demand regime change.

    4. Blow up more stuff.

    5. Demand unconditional surrender.

    6. Get angry when enemy fights back.

    7. Make threats.

    8. Back down. Repeat.

    9. Demand allies finish war.

    10. Walk away.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038955268491321740?s=20

    No Global Superpower has ever lost this hard, this fast.

    Terrible. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,685
    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/
  • eekeek Posts: 33,150
    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    Reform will need to deliver though - because we’ve seen a lot of examples in the past where someone promises the earth, fails to deliver and Labour are back in 5 years later
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,462
    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    It is quite likely Labour are going the way of the Liberals. I told you all that the Conservative Party is like the cockroach. It survives Armageddon.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,756
    edited 3:14PM
    Here's wishing the Artemis II mission well.

    (FWIW, the ChiComs are competing with us, and doing the things that lead me to conclude they plan to build a base on the moon.)
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,057
    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    I would suggest we wait for Friday 8th May when so much will be clearer, before predicting labour wipeout
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,417

    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    It is quite likely Labour are going the way of the Liberals. I told you all that the Conservative Party is like the cockroach. It survives Armageddon.
    The greens expect to do well in Newcastle and S Tyneside.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,041

    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    I would suggest we wait for Friday 8th May when so much will be clearer, before predicting labour wipeout
    I agree. The problem with some of the Reform predictions are they are way too buliush throughout for Reform compared to polling
    If they were to come in at ca 24% NEV ala YG/FoN then there is no way they are winning absolutely everything in the metro North like Wakefield and Sunderland for example, taking the East Anglian counties, making breakthroughs in the likes of Sussex AND taking councils in London whilst storming Wales and making hard progress in Scotland.
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 326
    On Topic

    I find this polling intriguing that if Labour do hoover up the anti-Reform voting then it could deny the SNP a majority although my hunch is that in Scotland will e the apotheosis of anti-Reform tactical voting in Britain.
    I suspect the really important point is not merely that anti-Reform tactical voting might help Labour, but that in Scotland it could become the dominant tactical instinct in a way not seen elsewhere in Britain.

    Scotland already has a well-developed habit of voting tactically when a party is regarded as beyond the pale or as the principal danger. If Reform come to occupy that space, then anti-Reform consolidation may prove stronger there than in England, where tribal and cultural loyalties may inhibit it more.

    That in turn creates an awkward possibility for the SNP. Reform’s rise could fragment the opposition vote in the abstract, but if in practice it prompts a Labour squeeze among anti-Reform voters, it may actually make SNP majorities harder rather than easier to achieve.

    So the key question may not be Reform’s raw vote share so much as whether their presence changes the coordination behaviour of everyone else.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,739

    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    I would suggest we wait for Friday 8th May when so much will be clearer, before predicting labour wipeout
    I agree. The problem with some of the Reform predictions are they are way too buliush throughout for Reform compared to polling
    If they were to come in at ca 24% NEV ala YG/FoN then there is no way they are winning absolutely everything in the metro North like Wakefield and Sunderland for example, taking the East Anglian counties, making breakthroughs in the likes of Sussex AND taking councils in London whilst storming Wales and making hard progress in Scotland.
    In a world where their NEV is 25%, and LD/Lab/Con/Green are all in the 15-18% range, then that is possible. Not necessarily likely, but possible. It all depends on the efficiency of their vote.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,041
    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    I would suggest we wait for Friday 8th May when so much will be clearer, before predicting labour wipeout
    I agree. The problem with some of the Reform predictions are they are way too buliush throughout for Reform compared to polling
    If they were to come in at ca 24% NEV ala YG/FoN then there is no way they are winning absolutely everything in the metro North like Wakefield and Sunderland for example, taking the East Anglian counties, making breakthroughs in the likes of Sussex AND taking councils in London whilst storming Wales and making hard progress in Scotland.
    In a world where their NEV is 25%, and LD/Lab/Con/Green are all in the 15-18% range, then that is possible. Not necessarily likely, but possible. It all depends on the efficiency of their vote.
    Yeah but we can distribute votes hyper efficiently for any party.
    We have to deal with the more likely outcomes of a 25% Ref NEV (in this example)
    They are going to do well, but how well? And where?
    Those are the defining factors for Reforms narrative May 8th onwards
  • eekeek Posts: 33,150

    🚨 JUST IN — IT’S OFFICIAL: Palm Beach International Airport is now Donald J. Trump International Airport, following Gov. Ron DeSantis’ signature on HB919

    The name change goes into effect on July 1st.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,813
    Andy_JS said:

    "Karl Turner has Labour whip suspended after criticism of Starmer and No 10"

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/31/karl-turner-labour-whip-suspended

    Turner projects as a 'character'. You're meant to hear him and think "terrific, we need more like this in public life". And I imagine some people do think that when they hear him.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,712

    Here's wishing the Artemis II mission well.

    (FWIW, the ChiComs are competing with us, and doing the things that lead me to conclude they plan to build a base on the moon.)

    Things like officially announcing it ?

    China plans to build moon base at the lunar south pole by 2035
    https://www.space.com/china-moon-base-south-pole-2035

    I wish Artemis well too, but I doubt it will ever land astronauts on the moon.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,808
    edited 3:34PM
    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    It's all a question of perspective. Perspective is everything.



  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,372
    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    I would suggest we wait for Friday 8th May when so much will be clearer, before predicting labour wipeout
    The whole point of political betting is to guess election outcomes ahead of time!
    Is it? I thought it was to make awesome puns and criticise Max Verstappen's driving.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,999
    eek said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @TerryMoran

    Trump at war:

    1. Start war. Do not tell allies.

    2. Blow stuff up.

    3. Demand regime change.

    4. Blow up more stuff.

    5. Demand unconditional surrender.

    6. Get angry when enemy fights back.

    7. Make threats.

    8. Back down. Repeat.

    9. Demand allies finish war.

    10. Walk away.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038955268491321740?s=20

    No Global Superpower has ever lost this hard, this fast.

    Terry did an interview with Trump - this comment immediately below that covers a question regarding what Trump is like

    Sure. He seemed to me to be a guy who has two ways of dealing with people. Charm or fury. You get the charm if you kiss his a** or he needs something from you. And you get the fury if you don't kiss his a*** and challenge him.

    The key thing is that in the second case, he wants a fight on his terms. He wants you to take him on at his level of rage and insults and hollering. His tactic is to to tear you apart verbally, wound you, so that your blood boils and you try to fight back on his level, get down in the muck with him.

    But what if you're respectful--while still challenging him? What if you treat him in a calm, polite way, while standing up to him? He has no idea what to do with that. He's counting on his opponents to fight on his level.

    Think of Mark Carney. Trump hates that guy. Because Carney pushes back--hard. Stands up for himself and his country--very, very calmly. Still very tough. And Trump cannot deal with that.

    My goal in that interview was not to fight with him, but to confront him respectfully and forcefully with legitimate questions I thought people would want answered. I could tell it flummoxed him. At one point, Trump threatened to cut off the interview. I gave him no reason to do so. I simply told him we were going to finish. He sagged back in his chair. You can see it in the video; go look.

    At he end of the interview, Trump stormed out. ABC had arranged for a walk through the Rose Garden Concrete Patio. "NOT AFTER THAT INTERVIEW!" he barked. Stormed out. Susie Wiles and a Disney VP who was there had to beg him to come back--because ABC had booked an hour of prime time, and we were short. That's when he sat at the Resolute Desk and babbled about the Declaration of Independence. He wouldn't look at me. Still rattled.

    In the middle of the interview, as he got angrier and angrier at me, I remember looking into his eyes--narrowed and flashing with his emotion, a little bloodshot from all the makeup--and I thought, he's mean. But he's not tough.

    I think that's what we are seeing in this war.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038983208855859577?s=20
    The other thing Trump can't remotely handle is being laughed at. Bursting his pompous bubble is very effective.

    He must be hating the trolling coming out of Tehran.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,712
    .
    eek said:


    🚨 JUST IN — IT’S OFFICIAL: Palm Beach International Airport is now Donald J. Trump International Airport, following Gov. Ron DeSantis’ signature on HB919

    The name change goes into effect on July 1st.

    Does it have an Epstein Executive Lounge ?

    And I wonder what they will rename it in a couple of years time ?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,443
    Battlebus said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    It's all a question of perspective. Perspective is everything.



    That's a genius cartoon
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,999
    eek said:


    🚨 JUST IN — IT’S OFFICIAL: Palm Beach International Airport is now Donald J. Trump International Airport, following Gov. Ron DeSantis’ signature on HB919

    The name change goes into effect on July 1st.

    Has it been moved to Arslikhan?
  • PaulMPaulM Posts: 640
    edited 3:43PM
    Sweeney74 said:

    On Topic


    I find this polling intriguing that if Labour do hoover up the anti-Reform voting then it could deny the SNP a majority although my hunch is that in Scotland will e the apotheosis of anti-Reform tactical voting in Britain.


    I suspect the really important point is not merely that anti-Reform tactical voting might help Labour, but that in Scotland it could become the dominant tactical instinct in a way not seen elsewhere in Britain.

    Scotland already has a well-developed habit of voting tactically when a party is regarded as beyond the pale or as the principal danger. If Reform come to occupy that space, then anti-Reform consolidation may prove stronger there than in England, where tribal and cultural loyalties may inhibit it more.

    That in turn creates an awkward possibility for the SNP. Reform’s rise could fragment the opposition vote in the abstract, but if in practice it prompts a Labour squeeze among anti-Reform voters, it may actually make SNP majorities harder rather than easier to achieve.

    So the key question may not be Reform’s raw vote share so much as whether their presence changes the coordination behaviour of everyone else.
    But as I noted below, in the head to head with Labour for First Minister, Reform are getting 42%, which suggests to me that there must be a fair number of left of centre Scots who refuse to back Labour even in that scenario.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,057
    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    I would suggest we wait for Friday 8th May when so much will be clearer, before predicting labour wipeout
    The whole point of political betting is to guess election outcomes ahead of time!
    Indeed but not sure labour wipeout is certain
  • eekeek Posts: 33,150

    eek said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @TerryMoran

    Trump at war:

    1. Start war. Do not tell allies.

    2. Blow stuff up.

    3. Demand regime change.

    4. Blow up more stuff.

    5. Demand unconditional surrender.

    6. Get angry when enemy fights back.

    7. Make threats.

    8. Back down. Repeat.

    9. Demand allies finish war.

    10. Walk away.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038955268491321740?s=20

    No Global Superpower has ever lost this hard, this fast.

    Terry did an interview with Trump - this comment immediately below that covers a question regarding what Trump is like

    Sure. He seemed to me to be a guy who has two ways of dealing with people. Charm or fury. You get the charm if you kiss his a** or he needs something from you. And you get the fury if you don't kiss his a*** and challenge him.

    The key thing is that in the second case, he wants a fight on his terms. He wants you to take him on at his level of rage and insults and hollering. His tactic is to to tear you apart verbally, wound you, so that your blood boils and you try to fight back on his level, get down in the muck with him.

    But what if you're respectful--while still challenging him? What if you treat him in a calm, polite way, while standing up to him? He has no idea what to do with that. He's counting on his opponents to fight on his level.

    Think of Mark Carney. Trump hates that guy. Because Carney pushes back--hard. Stands up for himself and his country--very, very calmly. Still very tough. And Trump cannot deal with that.

    My goal in that interview was not to fight with him, but to confront him respectfully and forcefully with legitimate questions I thought people would want answered. I could tell it flummoxed him. At one point, Trump threatened to cut off the interview. I gave him no reason to do so. I simply told him we were going to finish. He sagged back in his chair. You can see it in the video; go look.

    At he end of the interview, Trump stormed out. ABC had arranged for a walk through the Rose Garden Concrete Patio. "NOT AFTER THAT INTERVIEW!" he barked. Stormed out. Susie Wiles and a Disney VP who was there had to beg him to come back--because ABC had booked an hour of prime time, and we were short. That's when he sat at the Resolute Desk and babbled about the Declaration of Independence. He wouldn't look at me. Still rattled.

    In the middle of the interview, as he got angrier and angrier at me, I remember looking into his eyes--narrowed and flashing with his emotion, a little bloodshot from all the makeup--and I thought, he's mean. But he's not tough.

    I think that's what we are seeing in this war.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038983208855859577?s=20
    The other thing Trump can't remotely handle is being laughed at. Bursting his pompous bubble is very effective.

    He must be hating the trolling coming out of Tehran.
    I suspect he’s being kept away from it as much as possible which is why we get rants at 6am US time when he’s scrolling on his own phone and sees the stuff that is otherwise hidden from him
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,372
    Leon said:

    Battlebus said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    It's all a question of perspective. Perspective is everything.



    That's a genius cartoon
    Does it give you the horn?
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 27,080
    Battlebus said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    It's all a question of perspective. Perspective is everything.



    Humans can see their nose but dont visualise it, presumably as it is a waste of "imagery". Would the same not apply to rhinos?
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 6,113
    edited 3:53PM
    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    I would suggest we wait for Friday 8th May when so much will be clearer, before predicting labour wipeout
    The whole point of political betting is to guess election outcomes ahead of time!
    OK, it is possible, but I doubt Labour will lose every last of their councillors in Sunderland.

    This is a probability argument as much as anything.

    So, Britain votes Now have got 21 Reform first places and 4 LD first places. But they are all up and each ward is returning three councillors. So, every Labour councillor has to come fourth or worse to lose.

    This gives the chance of ward splitting, a good Labour councillor might get some votes from people who have sufficiently expressed their displeasure with two crosses elsewhere, Reform have to put up 75 candidates without reverting to anyone who ends up looking like a total bell end.

    So, for wards like below in which Labour are 40% chance for the win, the chance of sneaking somebody through must be good.

    https://britain.votes.now/local-elections/may-26/sunderland-election/barnes-and-thornhill

    Note, this is my assessment for a total wipe out being a tough ask, I'm not for a moment claiming that Labour will do well.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,443
    edited 3:52PM
    Is Mahmood the real deal?

    First the coppers abandon Non Hate Crime Incidents, now.... another thing we cannot discuss but is good

    Fair's fair. If this is genuine, and not some smokescreen, I heartily applaud and give credit where it is due
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,758
    Been saying for a while I expect Reform to take Gateshead and South Tyneside, too. Newcastle isn't out of the bounds of possibility either.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,443
    I've gone right off this Donald Trump character (the current US President)

    I know he tends to get ignored in the whirl of global events, probably very few PBers have even heard of him - and we're political geeks! - but if you drill down he's done some stupid shit recently
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,813

    eek said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @TerryMoran

    Trump at war:

    1. Start war. Do not tell allies.

    2. Blow stuff up.

    3. Demand regime change.

    4. Blow up more stuff.

    5. Demand unconditional surrender.

    6. Get angry when enemy fights back.

    7. Make threats.

    8. Back down. Repeat.

    9. Demand allies finish war.

    10. Walk away.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038955268491321740?s=20

    No Global Superpower has ever lost this hard, this fast.

    Terry did an interview with Trump - this comment immediately below that covers a question regarding what Trump is like

    Sure. He seemed to me to be a guy who has two ways of dealing with people. Charm or fury. You get the charm if you kiss his a** or he needs something from you. And you get the fury if you don't kiss his a*** and challenge him.

    The key thing is that in the second case, he wants a fight on his terms. He wants you to take him on at his level of rage and insults and hollering. His tactic is to to tear you apart verbally, wound you, so that your blood boils and you try to fight back on his level, get down in the muck with him.

    But what if you're respectful--while still challenging him? What if you treat him in a calm, polite way, while standing up to him? He has no idea what to do with that. He's counting on his opponents to fight on his level.

    Think of Mark Carney. Trump hates that guy. Because Carney pushes back--hard. Stands up for himself and his country--very, very calmly. Still very tough. And Trump cannot deal with that.

    My goal in that interview was not to fight with him, but to confront him respectfully and forcefully with legitimate questions I thought people would want answered. I could tell it flummoxed him. At one point, Trump threatened to cut off the interview. I gave him no reason to do so. I simply told him we were going to finish. He sagged back in his chair. You can see it in the video; go look.

    At he end of the interview, Trump stormed out. ABC had arranged for a walk through the Rose Garden Concrete Patio. "NOT AFTER THAT INTERVIEW!" he barked. Stormed out. Susie Wiles and a Disney VP who was there had to beg him to come back--because ABC had booked an hour of prime time, and we were short. That's when he sat at the Resolute Desk and babbled about the Declaration of Independence. He wouldn't look at me. Still rattled.

    In the middle of the interview, as he got angrier and angrier at me, I remember looking into his eyes--narrowed and flashing with his emotion, a little bloodshot from all the makeup--and I thought, he's mean. But he's not tough.

    I think that's what we are seeing in this war.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038983208855859577?s=20
    The other thing Trump can't remotely handle is being laughed at. Bursting his pompous bubble is very effective.

    He must be hating the trolling coming out of Tehran.
    It is but I hope he isn't trolled out of TACO. Him *not* doing things is always the better outcome. That's a good general rule.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,057
    Spurs hire De Zerbi
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,944
    I don't pretend to understand Scotland and Wales politics or voting patterns so this is just about England.

    TSE says, quite understandably:
    One thing I am paying close attention to in May’s local election is the level, if any, of any tactical anti-Reform voting as I think it will be a harbinger for the 2029 general election


    However it seems to me that in England people pay little attention to the detail of party politics at the local level in local elections. Being mostly about bins and bollards it is not all that important. Nor is there the sort of scrutiny and granular detail that can help people know what a tactical vote might be - while in 2029 this will be a massive subject.

    I expect little tactical voting in England in May, and a tremendous amount in 2029. If I had to guess right now, I think the principal beneficiary in 2029 will be Labour in England (and PC/SNP elsewhere), and that as a result the Left of Centre will get to 325 + seats whatever Reform and the Tories do.

    The way it will resolve in England is that there will be masses of complicated discussions, bar charts and graphs and double speak about how to vote 'Not Reform', but that the obvious conclusion will prevail: Labour (and in 75 seats LDs) hold the seat. Labour (or LD) are the first choice for the 'Not Reform' tactical vote.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,372
    Leon said:

    I've gone right off this Donald Trump character (the current US President)

    I know he tends to get ignored in the whirl of global events, probably very few PBers have even heard of him - and we're political geeks! - but if you drill down he's done some stupid shit recently

    Ten years isn't exactly 'recent.' Not even to me as a medievalist.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,839
    edited 4:00PM

    Battlebus said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    It's all a question of perspective. Perspective is everything.



    Humans can see their nose but dont visualise it, presumably as it is a waste of "imagery". Would the same not apply to rhinos?
    Like many herbivores, rhino eyes are placed on the side rather than front of the head, so I would not think that they can see in stereo, but rather would judge distance via parallax.

    The evolutionary advantage of side mounted eyes is a wider field of vision, useful for spotting approaching predators.

    As such it is likely that any rhino artist would view their subject with one eye, and the horn would not be in the way.

    The elephant in the room is how an artistic rhino would hold their paintbrush.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 27,080
    dixiedean said:

    Been saying for a while I expect Reform to take Gateshead and South Tyneside, too. Newcastle isn't out of the bounds of possibility either.

    Is there a big market for that?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,443
    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @TerryMoran

    Trump at war:

    1. Start war. Do not tell allies.

    2. Blow stuff up.

    3. Demand regime change.

    4. Blow up more stuff.

    5. Demand unconditional surrender.

    6. Get angry when enemy fights back.

    7. Make threats.

    8. Back down. Repeat.

    9. Demand allies finish war.

    10. Walk away.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038955268491321740?s=20

    No Global Superpower has ever lost this hard, this fast.

    Terry did an interview with Trump - this comment immediately below that covers a question regarding what Trump is like

    Sure. He seemed to me to be a guy who has two ways of dealing with people. Charm or fury. You get the charm if you kiss his a** or he needs something from you. And you get the fury if you don't kiss his a*** and challenge him.

    The key thing is that in the second case, he wants a fight on his terms. He wants you to take him on at his level of rage and insults and hollering. His tactic is to to tear you apart verbally, wound you, so that your blood boils and you try to fight back on his level, get down in the muck with him.

    But what if you're respectful--while still challenging him? What if you treat him in a calm, polite way, while standing up to him? He has no idea what to do with that. He's counting on his opponents to fight on his level.

    Think of Mark Carney. Trump hates that guy. Because Carney pushes back--hard. Stands up for himself and his country--very, very calmly. Still very tough. And Trump cannot deal with that.

    My goal in that interview was not to fight with him, but to confront him respectfully and forcefully with legitimate questions I thought people would want answered. I could tell it flummoxed him. At one point, Trump threatened to cut off the interview. I gave him no reason to do so. I simply told him we were going to finish. He sagged back in his chair. You can see it in the video; go look.

    At he end of the interview, Trump stormed out. ABC had arranged for a walk through the Rose Garden Concrete Patio. "NOT AFTER THAT INTERVIEW!" he barked. Stormed out. Susie Wiles and a Disney VP who was there had to beg him to come back--because ABC had booked an hour of prime time, and we were short. That's when he sat at the Resolute Desk and babbled about the Declaration of Independence. He wouldn't look at me. Still rattled.

    In the middle of the interview, as he got angrier and angrier at me, I remember looking into his eyes--narrowed and flashing with his emotion, a little bloodshot from all the makeup--and I thought, he's mean. But he's not tough.

    I think that's what we are seeing in this war.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038983208855859577?s=20
    The other thing Trump can't remotely handle is being laughed at. Bursting his pompous bubble is very effective.

    He must be hating the trolling coming out of Tehran.
    It is but I hope he isn't trolled out of TACO. Him *not* doing things is always the better outcome. That's a good general rule.
    i really hope he hurries up and TACOs, coz this is getting messy and is going to ruin my plans


    "Excl: German airport hub Frankfurt, along with Delhi, Mumbai, Hong Kong, Manila, Melbourne airports are now ‘high risk’ for jet fuel shortage in April 🚨 - set to declare a jet fuel supply emergency to airlines in April, as US-Israel war on Iran continues."

    https://x.com/AlexInAir/status/2038984052921741571?s=20

    This could basically end air travel worldwide, very soon, because fuel will be so expensive tickets will triple in price, which no one can afford. So the planes don't fly

    The second third and fourth order effects of this STUPID war get progressively worse and wilder, once you think them through. Truly Armageddony shit is possible
  • MattWMattW Posts: 32,806
    FPT London

    London:
    Sweeney74 said:

    off topic...

    I'm taking my kids (11 & 15) to London for the first time for half term.
    Been a since I've been for leisure, mostly works and conferences.
    Besides the obvious ones, any recommendations?

    Where are you staying? And for how long, or is it a day trip?

    I've always enjoyed the Double Tree at Canary Wharf which had its own ferry. But that has been replaced by an official electric ferry (shamefully not a bridge! ). My other suggestion would be travel by bus or cycle, not tube, as you get the sights.

    But left to my own devices I'd do something mad like cycle the full length of the Thames Path through central London, and do a walk down the route of one of the hidden rivers.

    As a first visit taster, I'd probably say ONE of the major museums (I'd go for V&A probably), and the top of one tower (which could be the Shard, or Horizon 22 in Bishopsgate, which is nearly as high, and free). If you are up there then, of course Spitalfields Market, and also consider Dennis Severs' house in Spitalfields which is the Georgian House set to feel and smell as if the family have just left (you need one adult per child under 16, and I'm not sure how their prices work - it may be per time slot).

    A less prominent museum worth a try could be the London Transport Museum. Trip on the River?

    For quirky history there is Sambourne House and John Soane's House, both with cartoonist associations. Or I hear good things about the Cartoon Museum. There is also Hogarth's House at Chiswick, but I never got to that one.

    Web page of quirky museums: https://www.artdistance.com/artstravel/quirky-character-house-museums-in-london

    For National Trust, I'd suggest Fenton House (antique musical instruments) and 2 Willow Road (modernist), but if you are not members that adds up.

    But there's more than enough to pander to their interests and sow seeds for the future. There is also a huge amount of quirky London information online. I think I posted about statues of cats recently. When I lived in London, I had a guide called "London for Free", which is now more than covered online.

    Atlas Obscura - London:. 563 things to do.
    https://www.atlasobscura.com/things-to-do/london-england
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,685
    Battlebus said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    It's all a question of perspective. Perspective is everything.



    Reminds me of this classic Guardian advert from 1986.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SsccRkLLzU
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,944
    Leon said:

    I've gone right off this Donald Trump character (the current US President)

    I know he tends to get ignored in the whirl of global events, probably very few PBers have even heard of him - and we're political geeks! - but if you drill down he's done some stupid shit recently

    Yes. His name has popped up once or twice. Over the last couple of years Reform kept mentioning how marvellous he was. I always felt the view you held that Reform would win 648 seats at the next election might be over ambitious if their friend Trump proved a less than faithful friend to the world and UK's interests. This very unlikely possibility is getting a little closer.

  • TazTaz Posts: 26,417
    dixiedean said:

    Been saying for a while I expect Reform to take Gateshead and South Tyneside, too. Newcastle isn't out of the bounds of possibility either.

    Gateshead definitely. But there is a strong Green presence already in S Tyneside. Could easily see a Green coalition there.

    Newcastle will be interesting too. I agree.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,041
    edited 4:05PM
    Amother Welsh Reform candidate quits. Was on the list for Bridgend/Vale
    https://x.com/i/status/2038998931212804355
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,708
    PaulM said:

    The idea that 42% of Scots would prefer a Reform first minister to a Labour one is startling in a centre left country where at the last election Reform and the Tories combined were below 20%.

    Can only assume there must be a huge amount of anyone but Labour bad blood in the SNP voting base. But still....

    Scotland being a centre left country is a myth oft repeated, but not particularly true.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,712
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @TerryMoran

    Trump at war:

    1. Start war. Do not tell allies.

    2. Blow stuff up.

    3. Demand regime change.

    4. Blow up more stuff.

    5. Demand unconditional surrender.

    6. Get angry when enemy fights back.

    7. Make threats.

    8. Back down. Repeat.

    9. Demand allies finish war.

    10. Walk away.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038955268491321740?s=20

    No Global Superpower has ever lost this hard, this fast.

    Terry did an interview with Trump - this comment immediately below that covers a question regarding what Trump is like

    Sure. He seemed to me to be a guy who has two ways of dealing with people. Charm or fury. You get the charm if you kiss his a** or he needs something from you. And you get the fury if you don't kiss his a*** and challenge him.

    The key thing is that in the second case, he wants a fight on his terms. He wants you to take him on at his level of rage and insults and hollering. His tactic is to to tear you apart verbally, wound you, so that your blood boils and you try to fight back on his level, get down in the muck with him.

    But what if you're respectful--while still challenging him? What if you treat him in a calm, polite way, while standing up to him? He has no idea what to do with that. He's counting on his opponents to fight on his level.

    Think of Mark Carney. Trump hates that guy. Because Carney pushes back--hard. Stands up for himself and his country--very, very calmly. Still very tough. And Trump cannot deal with that.

    My goal in that interview was not to fight with him, but to confront him respectfully and forcefully with legitimate questions I thought people would want answered. I could tell it flummoxed him. At one point, Trump threatened to cut off the interview. I gave him no reason to do so. I simply told him we were going to finish. He sagged back in his chair. You can see it in the video; go look.

    At he end of the interview, Trump stormed out. ABC had arranged for a walk through the Rose Garden Concrete Patio. "NOT AFTER THAT INTERVIEW!" he barked. Stormed out. Susie Wiles and a Disney VP who was there had to beg him to come back--because ABC had booked an hour of prime time, and we were short. That's when he sat at the Resolute Desk and babbled about the Declaration of Independence. He wouldn't look at me. Still rattled.

    In the middle of the interview, as he got angrier and angrier at me, I remember looking into his eyes--narrowed and flashing with his emotion, a little bloodshot from all the makeup--and I thought, he's mean. But he's not tough.

    I think that's what we are seeing in this war.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038983208855859577?s=20
    The other thing Trump can't remotely handle is being laughed at. Bursting his pompous bubble is very effective.

    He must be hating the trolling coming out of Tehran.
    It is but I hope he isn't trolled out of TACO. Him *not* doing things is always the better outcome. That's a good general rule.
    i really hope he hurries up and TACOs, coz this is getting messy and is going to ruin my plans


    "Excl: German airport hub Frankfurt, along with Delhi, Mumbai, Hong Kong, Manila, Melbourne airports are now ‘high risk’ for jet fuel shortage in April 🚨 - set to declare a jet fuel supply emergency to airlines in April, as US-Israel war on Iran continues."

    https://x.com/AlexInAir/status/2038984052921741571?s=20

    This could basically end air travel worldwide, very soon, because fuel will be so expensive tickets will triple in price, which no one can afford. So the planes don't fly

    The second third and fourth order effects of this STUPID war get progressively worse and wilder, once you think them through. Truly Armageddony shit is possible
    Trump seems quite likely to TACO now (and will say the US has won and it's our problem).
    But it's still going to take weeks for (checks notes) China and Pakistan to sort out..

    What's your timeframe ?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 32,806
    On the Hegseth point on the previous thread, it is not about who they detest, it's about their personal fear, and their need to express loathing
    for something, anything.

    I ran across this at the weekend; it is from an article about Chinatown in the Evening Standard when owned by the 1st Viscount Rothermere:

    The Rothermere newspapers promoted a narrative of 'national degeneration'. A typical story in the Evening Standard, headlined in capital letters "WHITE GIRLS 'HYPNOTISED' BY YELLOW MEN", recounted what it called the "alarming facts" of London's Chinatown, warning in lurid detail of "the degradation of young white girls" at the hands of Chinese men: "Englishwomen are selling themselves to Chinamen; they are seeking out Asiatics in the streets where before the war no white women walked. The evil is baffling to the police and social workers. Women who have been 'rescued' and given a fresh start have relapsed and returned to their foreign masters, and have sunk even lower than before. The unmarried mother with a half-caste child is only one of the several problems arising. And obviously this cheapening of the white women among men who go down to the sea in ships must have reactions in the East and in every part of the world where colored and white races dwell side by side".

    (That's from his Wikipedia article, I was looking into how the values of the Daily Mail newspapers have changed over the years since 1896 Or not.)
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,813
    edited 4:14PM
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @TerryMoran

    Trump at war:

    1. Start war. Do not tell allies.

    2. Blow stuff up.

    3. Demand regime change.

    4. Blow up more stuff.

    5. Demand unconditional surrender.

    6. Get angry when enemy fights back.

    7. Make threats.

    8. Back down. Repeat.

    9. Demand allies finish war.

    10. Walk away.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038955268491321740?s=20

    No Global Superpower has ever lost this hard, this fast.

    Terry did an interview with Trump - this comment immediately below that covers a question regarding what Trump is like

    Sure. He seemed to me to be a guy who has two ways of dealing with people. Charm or fury. You get the charm if you kiss his a** or he needs something from you. And you get the fury if you don't kiss his a*** and challenge him.

    The key thing is that in the second case, he wants a fight on his terms. He wants you to take him on at his level of rage and insults and hollering. His tactic is to to tear you apart verbally, wound you, so that your blood boils and you try to fight back on his level, get down in the muck with him.

    But what if you're respectful--while still challenging him? What if you treat him in a calm, polite way, while standing up to him? He has no idea what to do with that. He's counting on his opponents to fight on his level.

    Think of Mark Carney. Trump hates that guy. Because Carney pushes back--hard. Stands up for himself and his country--very, very calmly. Still very tough. And Trump cannot deal with that.

    My goal in that interview was not to fight with him, but to confront him respectfully and forcefully with legitimate questions I thought people would want answered. I could tell it flummoxed him. At one point, Trump threatened to cut off the interview. I gave him no reason to do so. I simply told him we were going to finish. He sagged back in his chair. You can see it in the video; go look.

    At he end of the interview, Trump stormed out. ABC had arranged for a walk through the Rose Garden Concrete Patio. "NOT AFTER THAT INTERVIEW!" he barked. Stormed out. Susie Wiles and a Disney VP who was there had to beg him to come back--because ABC had booked an hour of prime time, and we were short. That's when he sat at the Resolute Desk and babbled about the Declaration of Independence. He wouldn't look at me. Still rattled.

    In the middle of the interview, as he got angrier and angrier at me, I remember looking into his eyes--narrowed and flashing with his emotion, a little bloodshot from all the makeup--and I thought, he's mean. But he's not tough.

    I think that's what we are seeing in this war.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038983208855859577?s=20
    The other thing Trump can't remotely handle is being laughed at. Bursting his pompous bubble is very effective.

    He must be hating the trolling coming out of Tehran.
    It is but I hope he isn't trolled out of TACO. Him *not* doing things is always the better outcome. That's a good general rule.
    i really hope he hurries up and TACOs, coz this is getting messy and is going to ruin my plans


    "Excl: German airport hub Frankfurt, along with Delhi, Mumbai, Hong Kong, Manila, Melbourne airports are now ‘high risk’ for jet fuel shortage in April 🚨 - set to declare a jet fuel supply emergency to airlines in April, as US-Israel war on Iran continues."

    https://x.com/AlexInAir/status/2038984052921741571?s=20

    This could basically end air travel worldwide, very soon, because fuel will be so expensive tickets will triple in price, which no one can afford. So the planes don't fly

    The second third and fourth order effects of this STUPID war get progressively worse and wilder, once you think them through. Truly Armageddony shit is possible
    50% chance that utter catastrophe due to Trump2 is avoided in Trump2.

    You'd like it higher but that's the price of Trump2.

    It's a case of 🤞🤞🤞 and I join you in that.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,712

    Amother Welsh Reform candidate quits. Was on the list for Bridgend/Vale
    https://x.com/i/status/2038998931212804355

    So it's vale for him.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,963
    Trump's Mad War latest...


    The Kobeissi Letter
    @KobeissiLetter

    BREAKING: Iran's IRGC issues a warning that they will target 18 US technology companies if the US continues "targeted assassinations" of Iranian leaders, beginning on April 1st.

    The companies include Nvidia, Apple, Microsoft, Google, Tesla, Intel, Oracle, IBM, Meta, Boeing, and others.

    https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2039005890901131532
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,999

    Spurs hire De Zerbi

    Set the lettuce timer...
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,807

    Spurs hire De Zerbi

    How times change.

    When Brighton and Brentford are considered trendsetters and forefront of data driven analysis and a colossus like Tottenham (not) are left feeding off their scraps.

    If all the Clubs is Endland, what Brentford have achieved is frankly incredible and yet still massively under rated.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,057
    Brixian59 said:

    Spurs hire De Zerbi

    How times change.

    When Brighton and Brentford are considered trendsetters and forefront of data driven analysis and a colossus like Tottenham (not) are left feeding off their scraps.

    If all the Clubs is Endland, what Brentford have achieved is frankly incredible and yet still massively under rated.
    Remarkable - we agree
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,807
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @TerryMoran

    Trump at war:

    1. Start war. Do not tell allies.

    2. Blow stuff up.

    3. Demand regime change.

    4. Blow up more stuff.

    5. Demand unconditional surrender.

    6. Get angry when enemy fights back.

    7. Make threats.

    8. Back down. Repeat.

    9. Demand allies finish war.

    10. Walk away.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038955268491321740?s=20

    No Global Superpower has ever lost this hard, this fast.

    Terry did an interview with Trump - this comment immediately below that covers a question regarding what Trump is like

    Sure. He seemed to me to be a guy who has two ways of dealing with people. Charm or fury. You get the charm if you kiss his a** or he needs something from you. And you get the fury if you don't kiss his a*** and challenge him.

    The key thing is that in the second case, he wants a fight on his terms. He wants you to take him on at his level of rage and insults and hollering. His tactic is to to tear you apart verbally, wound you, so that your blood boils and you try to fight back on his level, get down in the muck with him.

    But what if you're respectful--while still challenging him? What if you treat him in a calm, polite way, while standing up to him? He has no idea what to do with that. He's counting on his opponents to fight on his level.

    Think of Mark Carney. Trump hates that guy. Because Carney pushes back--hard. Stands up for himself and his country--very, very calmly. Still very tough. And Trump cannot deal with that.

    My goal in that interview was not to fight with him, but to confront him respectfully and forcefully with legitimate questions I thought people would want answered. I could tell it flummoxed him. At one point, Trump threatened to cut off the interview. I gave him no reason to do so. I simply told him we were going to finish. He sagged back in his chair. You can see it in the video; go look.

    At he end of the interview, Trump stormed out. ABC had arranged for a walk through the Rose Garden Concrete Patio. "NOT AFTER THAT INTERVIEW!" he barked. Stormed out. Susie Wiles and a Disney VP who was there had to beg him to come back--because ABC had booked an hour of prime time, and we were short. That's when he sat at the Resolute Desk and babbled about the Declaration of Independence. He wouldn't look at me. Still rattled.

    In the middle of the interview, as he got angrier and angrier at me, I remember looking into his eyes--narrowed and flashing with his emotion, a little bloodshot from all the makeup--and I thought, he's mean. But he's not tough.

    I think that's what we are seeing in this war.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038983208855859577?s=20
    The other thing Trump can't remotely handle is being laughed at. Bursting his pompous bubble is very effective.

    He must be hating the trolling coming out of Tehran.
    It is but I hope he isn't trolled out of TACO. Him *not* doing things is always the better outcome. That's a good general rule.
    i really hope he hurries up and TACOs, coz this is getting messy and is going to ruin my plans


    "Excl: German airport hub Frankfurt, along with Delhi, Mumbai, Hong Kong, Manila, Melbourne airports are now ‘high risk’ for jet fuel shortage in April 🚨 - set to declare a jet fuel supply emergency to airlines in April, as US-Israel war on Iran continues."

    https://x.com/AlexInAir/status/2038984052921741571?s=20

    This could basically end air travel worldwide, very soon, because fuel will be so expensive tickets will triple in price, which no one can afford. So the planes don't fly

    The second third and fourth order effects of this STUPID war get progressively worse and wilder, once you think them through. Truly Armageddony shit is possible
    Wouldn't it be fucking ironic if Fifa World Cup was cancelled as half the teams and none of the supporters could get there.

    Up yours Donald
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,999
    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @TerryMoran

    Trump at war:

    1. Start war. Do not tell allies.

    2. Blow stuff up.

    3. Demand regime change.

    4. Blow up more stuff.

    5. Demand unconditional surrender.

    6. Get angry when enemy fights back.

    7. Make threats.

    8. Back down. Repeat.

    9. Demand allies finish war.

    10. Walk away.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038955268491321740?s=20

    No Global Superpower has ever lost this hard, this fast.

    Terry did an interview with Trump - this comment immediately below that covers a question regarding what Trump is like

    Sure. He seemed to me to be a guy who has two ways of dealing with people. Charm or fury. You get the charm if you kiss his a** or he needs something from you. And you get the fury if you don't kiss his a*** and challenge him.

    The key thing is that in the second case, he wants a fight on his terms. He wants you to take him on at his level of rage and insults and hollering. His tactic is to to tear you apart verbally, wound you, so that your blood boils and you try to fight back on his level, get down in the muck with him.

    But what if you're respectful--while still challenging him? What if you treat him in a calm, polite way, while standing up to him? He has no idea what to do with that. He's counting on his opponents to fight on his level.

    Think of Mark Carney. Trump hates that guy. Because Carney pushes back--hard. Stands up for himself and his country--very, very calmly. Still very tough. And Trump cannot deal with that.

    My goal in that interview was not to fight with him, but to confront him respectfully and forcefully with legitimate questions I thought people would want answered. I could tell it flummoxed him. At one point, Trump threatened to cut off the interview. I gave him no reason to do so. I simply told him we were going to finish. He sagged back in his chair. You can see it in the video; go look.

    At he end of the interview, Trump stormed out. ABC had arranged for a walk through the Rose Garden Concrete Patio. "NOT AFTER THAT INTERVIEW!" he barked. Stormed out. Susie Wiles and a Disney VP who was there had to beg him to come back--because ABC had booked an hour of prime time, and we were short. That's when he sat at the Resolute Desk and babbled about the Declaration of Independence. He wouldn't look at me. Still rattled.

    In the middle of the interview, as he got angrier and angrier at me, I remember looking into his eyes--narrowed and flashing with his emotion, a little bloodshot from all the makeup--and I thought, he's mean. But he's not tough.

    I think that's what we are seeing in this war.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038983208855859577?s=20
    The other thing Trump can't remotely handle is being laughed at. Bursting his pompous bubble is very effective.

    He must be hating the trolling coming out of Tehran.
    It is but I hope he isn't trolled out of TACO. Him *not* doing things is always the better outcome. That's a good general rule.
    i really hope he hurries up and TACOs, coz this is getting messy and is going to ruin my plans


    "Excl: German airport hub Frankfurt, along with Delhi, Mumbai, Hong Kong, Manila, Melbourne airports are now ‘high risk’ for jet fuel shortage in April 🚨 - set to declare a jet fuel supply emergency to airlines in April, as US-Israel war on Iran continues."

    https://x.com/AlexInAir/status/2038984052921741571?s=20

    This could basically end air travel worldwide, very soon, because fuel will be so expensive tickets will triple in price, which no one can afford. So the planes don't fly

    The second third and fourth order effects of this STUPID war get progressively worse and wilder, once you think them through. Truly Armageddony shit is possible
    Trump seems quite likely to TACO now (and will say the US has won and it's our problem).
    But it's still going to take weeks for (checks notes) China and Pakistan to sort out..

    What's your timeframe ?
    So it won't take so long if China intercedes but relays "the one thing everyone is agreed on is that the American Gulf bases have to close..."
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,963
    Trump now at -45 with indies saying CNN.

    Close them down.

  • isamisam Posts: 43,918
    Been a bit windy recently, but if they say so…

    The gangs have been smashed. It’s over

    Reform have stopped making noise about the small boat crossing..why? Because Labour have smashed the gangs.

    Illegal Channel crossings have collapsed. See for yourself.

    Promise made. Promise delivered. Labour is securing our borders.


    https://x.com/ashfordlabour/status/2038919231920558237?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,708

    Battlebus said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Among the predictions are that all 50 Labour councillors on Sunderland City Council will lose their seats. To put that into context, there’s been a continuous Labour majority on the council since its formation in 1974. For the party to lose this majority would be bad enough, but to lose every seat — and mostly to Reform UK — would be evidence of a profound political realignment. It suggests Labour won’t only lose Sunderland at the next general election, but the North East as a whole."

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mps-should-get-rid-of-starmer-before-its-too-late/

    It's all a question of perspective. Perspective is everything.



    Humans can see their nose but dont visualise it, presumably as it is a waste of "imagery". Would the same not apply to rhinos?
    Rhinos' eyes point to the side. They don't have binocular vision like this anyway. Also, they can't paint.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,807
    Leon said:

    Is Mahmood the real deal?

    First the coppers abandon Non Hate Crime Incidents, now.... another thing we cannot discuss but is good

    Fair's fair. If this is genuine, and not some smokescreen, I heartily applaud and give credit where it is due

    Mahmood could be the Leader the Tories are desperately searching for.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 27,080
    Brixian59 said:

    Spurs hire De Zerbi

    How times change.

    When Brighton and Brentford are considered trendsetters and forefront of data driven analysis and a colossus like Tottenham (not) are left feeding off their scraps.

    If all the Clubs is Endland, what Brentford have achieved is frankly incredible and yet still massively under rated.
    Curious how Brighton and Brentfords owners have made hundreds of millions from betting on football yet this is somehow within the rules of what is allowed whereas a non league goalkeeper eating a pie to poke fun back at a betting firm taking the piss out of his weight gets a lengthy ban.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,963
    edited 4:19PM
    Brixian59 said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @TerryMoran

    Trump at war:

    1. Start war. Do not tell allies.

    2. Blow stuff up.

    3. Demand regime change.

    4. Blow up more stuff.

    5. Demand unconditional surrender.

    6. Get angry when enemy fights back.

    7. Make threats.

    8. Back down. Repeat.

    9. Demand allies finish war.

    10. Walk away.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038955268491321740?s=20

    No Global Superpower has ever lost this hard, this fast.

    Terry did an interview with Trump - this comment immediately below that covers a question regarding what Trump is like

    Sure. He seemed to me to be a guy who has two ways of dealing with people. Charm or fury. You get the charm if you kiss his a** or he needs something from you. And you get the fury if you don't kiss his a*** and challenge him.

    The key thing is that in the second case, he wants a fight on his terms. He wants you to take him on at his level of rage and insults and hollering. His tactic is to to tear you apart verbally, wound you, so that your blood boils and you try to fight back on his level, get down in the muck with him.

    But what if you're respectful--while still challenging him? What if you treat him in a calm, polite way, while standing up to him? He has no idea what to do with that. He's counting on his opponents to fight on his level.

    Think of Mark Carney. Trump hates that guy. Because Carney pushes back--hard. Stands up for himself and his country--very, very calmly. Still very tough. And Trump cannot deal with that.

    My goal in that interview was not to fight with him, but to confront him respectfully and forcefully with legitimate questions I thought people would want answered. I could tell it flummoxed him. At one point, Trump threatened to cut off the interview. I gave him no reason to do so. I simply told him we were going to finish. He sagged back in his chair. You can see it in the video; go look.

    At he end of the interview, Trump stormed out. ABC had arranged for a walk through the Rose Garden Concrete Patio. "NOT AFTER THAT INTERVIEW!" he barked. Stormed out. Susie Wiles and a Disney VP who was there had to beg him to come back--because ABC had booked an hour of prime time, and we were short. That's when he sat at the Resolute Desk and babbled about the Declaration of Independence. He wouldn't look at me. Still rattled.

    In the middle of the interview, as he got angrier and angrier at me, I remember looking into his eyes--narrowed and flashing with his emotion, a little bloodshot from all the makeup--and I thought, he's mean. But he's not tough.

    I think that's what we are seeing in this war.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038983208855859577?s=20
    The other thing Trump can't remotely handle is being laughed at. Bursting his pompous bubble is very effective.

    He must be hating the trolling coming out of Tehran.
    It is but I hope he isn't trolled out of TACO. Him *not* doing things is always the better outcome. That's a good general rule.
    i really hope he hurries up and TACOs, coz this is getting messy and is going to ruin my plans


    "Excl: German airport hub Frankfurt, along with Delhi, Mumbai, Hong Kong, Manila, Melbourne airports are now ‘high risk’ for jet fuel shortage in April 🚨 - set to declare a jet fuel supply emergency to airlines in April, as US-Israel war on Iran continues."

    https://x.com/AlexInAir/status/2038984052921741571?s=20

    This could basically end air travel worldwide, very soon, because fuel will be so expensive tickets will triple in price, which no one can afford. So the planes don't fly

    The second third and fourth order effects of this STUPID war get progressively worse and wilder, once you think them through. Truly Armageddony shit is possible
    Wouldn't it be fucking ironic if Fifa World Cup was cancelled as half the teams and none of the supporters could get there.

    Up yours Donald
    Yet strangely Rolls Royce are up today on the market.

    No flying then no engine maintenance contract payments.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,807
    Nigelb said:

    Here's wishing the Artemis II mission well.

    (FWIW, the ChiComs are competing with us, and doing the things that lead me to conclude they plan to build a base on the moon.)

    Things like officially announcing it ?

    China plans to build moon base at the lunar south pole by 2035
    https://www.space.com/china-moon-base-south-pole-2035

    I wish Artemis well too, but I doubt it will ever land astronauts on the moon.
    Wouldn't it be great if they found a flying pig round the dark side of the moon
  • eekeek Posts: 33,150
    isam said:

    Been a bit windy recently, but if they say so…

    The gangs have been smashed. It’s over

    Reform have stopped making noise about the small boat crossing..why? Because Labour have smashed the gangs.

    Illegal Channel crossings have collapsed. See for yourself.

    Promise made. Promise delivered. Labour is securing our borders.


    https://x.com/ashfordlabour/status/2038919231920558237?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    That's a hostage to fortune post if there ever was one. 1 calm week and that claim is going to completely fall apart...
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,443
    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @TerryMoran

    Trump at war:

    1. Start war. Do not tell allies.

    2. Blow stuff up.

    3. Demand regime change.

    4. Blow up more stuff.

    5. Demand unconditional surrender.

    6. Get angry when enemy fights back.

    7. Make threats.

    8. Back down. Repeat.

    9. Demand allies finish war.

    10. Walk away.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038955268491321740?s=20

    No Global Superpower has ever lost this hard, this fast.

    Terry did an interview with Trump - this comment immediately below that covers a question regarding what Trump is like

    Sure. He seemed to me to be a guy who has two ways of dealing with people. Charm or fury. You get the charm if you kiss his a** or he needs something from you. And you get the fury if you don't kiss his a*** and challenge him.

    The key thing is that in the second case, he wants a fight on his terms. He wants you to take him on at his level of rage and insults and hollering. His tactic is to to tear you apart verbally, wound you, so that your blood boils and you try to fight back on his level, get down in the muck with him.

    But what if you're respectful--while still challenging him? What if you treat him in a calm, polite way, while standing up to him? He has no idea what to do with that. He's counting on his opponents to fight on his level.

    Think of Mark Carney. Trump hates that guy. Because Carney pushes back--hard. Stands up for himself and his country--very, very calmly. Still very tough. And Trump cannot deal with that.

    My goal in that interview was not to fight with him, but to confront him respectfully and forcefully with legitimate questions I thought people would want answered. I could tell it flummoxed him. At one point, Trump threatened to cut off the interview. I gave him no reason to do so. I simply told him we were going to finish. He sagged back in his chair. You can see it in the video; go look.

    At he end of the interview, Trump stormed out. ABC had arranged for a walk through the Rose Garden Concrete Patio. "NOT AFTER THAT INTERVIEW!" he barked. Stormed out. Susie Wiles and a Disney VP who was there had to beg him to come back--because ABC had booked an hour of prime time, and we were short. That's when he sat at the Resolute Desk and babbled about the Declaration of Independence. He wouldn't look at me. Still rattled.

    In the middle of the interview, as he got angrier and angrier at me, I remember looking into his eyes--narrowed and flashing with his emotion, a little bloodshot from all the makeup--and I thought, he's mean. But he's not tough.

    I think that's what we are seeing in this war.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038983208855859577?s=20
    The other thing Trump can't remotely handle is being laughed at. Bursting his pompous bubble is very effective.

    He must be hating the trolling coming out of Tehran.
    It is but I hope he isn't trolled out of TACO. Him *not* doing things is always the better outcome. That's a good general rule.
    i really hope he hurries up and TACOs, coz this is getting messy and is going to ruin my plans


    "Excl: German airport hub Frankfurt, along with Delhi, Mumbai, Hong Kong, Manila, Melbourne airports are now ‘high risk’ for jet fuel shortage in April 🚨 - set to declare a jet fuel supply emergency to airlines in April, as US-Israel war on Iran continues."

    https://x.com/AlexInAir/status/2038984052921741571?s=20

    This could basically end air travel worldwide, very soon, because fuel will be so expensive tickets will triple in price, which no one can afford. So the planes don't fly

    The second third and fourth order effects of this STUPID war get progressively worse and wilder, once you think them through. Truly Armageddony shit is possible
    Trump seems quite likely to TACO now (and will say the US has won and it's our problem).
    But it's still going to take weeks for (checks notes) China and Pakistan to sort out..

    What's your timeframe ?
    I've got trips to Japan and China in the summer. Nice, lovely trips. Sigh. Also Rwanda at some point. eeek
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,041
    Brixian59 said:

    Spurs hire De Zerbi

    How times change.

    When Brighton and Brentford are considered trendsetters and forefront of data driven analysis and a colossus like Tottenham (not) are left feeding off their scraps.

    If all the Clubs is Endland, what Brentford have achieved is frankly incredible and yet still massively under rated.
    What exactly have they achieved? Aside from top flight football for 4 years?
  • eekeek Posts: 33,150

    Brixian59 said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @TerryMoran

    Trump at war:

    1. Start war. Do not tell allies.

    2. Blow stuff up.

    3. Demand regime change.

    4. Blow up more stuff.

    5. Demand unconditional surrender.

    6. Get angry when enemy fights back.

    7. Make threats.

    8. Back down. Repeat.

    9. Demand allies finish war.

    10. Walk away.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038955268491321740?s=20

    No Global Superpower has ever lost this hard, this fast.

    Terry did an interview with Trump - this comment immediately below that covers a question regarding what Trump is like

    Sure. He seemed to me to be a guy who has two ways of dealing with people. Charm or fury. You get the charm if you kiss his a** or he needs something from you. And you get the fury if you don't kiss his a*** and challenge him.

    The key thing is that in the second case, he wants a fight on his terms. He wants you to take him on at his level of rage and insults and hollering. His tactic is to to tear you apart verbally, wound you, so that your blood boils and you try to fight back on his level, get down in the muck with him.

    But what if you're respectful--while still challenging him? What if you treat him in a calm, polite way, while standing up to him? He has no idea what to do with that. He's counting on his opponents to fight on his level.

    Think of Mark Carney. Trump hates that guy. Because Carney pushes back--hard. Stands up for himself and his country--very, very calmly. Still very tough. And Trump cannot deal with that.

    My goal in that interview was not to fight with him, but to confront him respectfully and forcefully with legitimate questions I thought people would want answered. I could tell it flummoxed him. At one point, Trump threatened to cut off the interview. I gave him no reason to do so. I simply told him we were going to finish. He sagged back in his chair. You can see it in the video; go look.

    At he end of the interview, Trump stormed out. ABC had arranged for a walk through the Rose Garden Concrete Patio. "NOT AFTER THAT INTERVIEW!" he barked. Stormed out. Susie Wiles and a Disney VP who was there had to beg him to come back--because ABC had booked an hour of prime time, and we were short. That's when he sat at the Resolute Desk and babbled about the Declaration of Independence. He wouldn't look at me. Still rattled.

    In the middle of the interview, as he got angrier and angrier at me, I remember looking into his eyes--narrowed and flashing with his emotion, a little bloodshot from all the makeup--and I thought, he's mean. But he's not tough.

    I think that's what we are seeing in this war.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038983208855859577?s=20
    The other thing Trump can't remotely handle is being laughed at. Bursting his pompous bubble is very effective.

    He must be hating the trolling coming out of Tehran.
    It is but I hope he isn't trolled out of TACO. Him *not* doing things is always the better outcome. That's a good general rule.
    i really hope he hurries up and TACOs, coz this is getting messy and is going to ruin my plans


    "Excl: German airport hub Frankfurt, along with Delhi, Mumbai, Hong Kong, Manila, Melbourne airports are now ‘high risk’ for jet fuel shortage in April 🚨 - set to declare a jet fuel supply emergency to airlines in April, as US-Israel war on Iran continues."

    https://x.com/AlexInAir/status/2038984052921741571?s=20

    This could basically end air travel worldwide, very soon, because fuel will be so expensive tickets will triple in price, which no one can afford. So the planes don't fly

    The second third and fourth order effects of this STUPID war get progressively worse and wilder, once you think them through. Truly Armageddony shit is possible
    Wouldn't it be fucking ironic if Fifa World Cup was cancelled as half the teams and none of the supporters could get there.

    Up yours Donald
    Yet strangely Rolls Royce are up today on the market.

    No flying then no engine maintenance contract payments.
    Why, I would have thought the contracts are both time and mileage related, so if flight time doesn't get you, the passage of time does anyway...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,999
    Nigelb said:

    Amother Welsh Reform candidate quits. Was on the list for Bridgend/Vale
    https://x.com/i/status/2038998931212804355

    So it's vale for him.
    Vale of tears?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,443
    Brixian59 said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @TerryMoran

    Trump at war:

    1. Start war. Do not tell allies.

    2. Blow stuff up.

    3. Demand regime change.

    4. Blow up more stuff.

    5. Demand unconditional surrender.

    6. Get angry when enemy fights back.

    7. Make threats.

    8. Back down. Repeat.

    9. Demand allies finish war.

    10. Walk away.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038955268491321740?s=20

    No Global Superpower has ever lost this hard, this fast.

    Terry did an interview with Trump - this comment immediately below that covers a question regarding what Trump is like

    Sure. He seemed to me to be a guy who has two ways of dealing with people. Charm or fury. You get the charm if you kiss his a** or he needs something from you. And you get the fury if you don't kiss his a*** and challenge him.

    The key thing is that in the second case, he wants a fight on his terms. He wants you to take him on at his level of rage and insults and hollering. His tactic is to to tear you apart verbally, wound you, so that your blood boils and you try to fight back on his level, get down in the muck with him.

    But what if you're respectful--while still challenging him? What if you treat him in a calm, polite way, while standing up to him? He has no idea what to do with that. He's counting on his opponents to fight on his level.

    Think of Mark Carney. Trump hates that guy. Because Carney pushes back--hard. Stands up for himself and his country--very, very calmly. Still very tough. And Trump cannot deal with that.

    My goal in that interview was not to fight with him, but to confront him respectfully and forcefully with legitimate questions I thought people would want answered. I could tell it flummoxed him. At one point, Trump threatened to cut off the interview. I gave him no reason to do so. I simply told him we were going to finish. He sagged back in his chair. You can see it in the video; go look.

    At he end of the interview, Trump stormed out. ABC had arranged for a walk through the Rose Garden Concrete Patio. "NOT AFTER THAT INTERVIEW!" he barked. Stormed out. Susie Wiles and a Disney VP who was there had to beg him to come back--because ABC had booked an hour of prime time, and we were short. That's when he sat at the Resolute Desk and babbled about the Declaration of Independence. He wouldn't look at me. Still rattled.

    In the middle of the interview, as he got angrier and angrier at me, I remember looking into his eyes--narrowed and flashing with his emotion, a little bloodshot from all the makeup--and I thought, he's mean. But he's not tough.

    I think that's what we are seeing in this war.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038983208855859577?s=20
    The other thing Trump can't remotely handle is being laughed at. Bursting his pompous bubble is very effective.

    He must be hating the trolling coming out of Tehran.
    It is but I hope he isn't trolled out of TACO. Him *not* doing things is always the better outcome. That's a good general rule.
    i really hope he hurries up and TACOs, coz this is getting messy and is going to ruin my plans


    "Excl: German airport hub Frankfurt, along with Delhi, Mumbai, Hong Kong, Manila, Melbourne airports are now ‘high risk’ for jet fuel shortage in April 🚨 - set to declare a jet fuel supply emergency to airlines in April, as US-Israel war on Iran continues."

    https://x.com/AlexInAir/status/2038984052921741571?s=20

    This could basically end air travel worldwide, very soon, because fuel will be so expensive tickets will triple in price, which no one can afford. So the planes don't fly

    The second third and fourth order effects of this STUPID war get progressively worse and wilder, once you think them through. Truly Armageddony shit is possible
    Wouldn't it be fucking ironic if Fifa World Cup was cancelled as half the teams and none of the supporters could get there.

    Up yours Donald
    This is actually a solid point

    If the war continues, the World Cup will be cancelled, because the world will be in turmoil. No ifs or buts, it just won't happen. Teams will be stranded, countries will boycott the USA, insurance will become impossible, airlines will be grounded, it will be a shitshow

    That would be a MASSIVE humiliation for Trump. His own precious tournament, ruined by his own impulsive stupidity

    I wonder if someone has sat him down and talked him through all this. Let's hope so
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,963
    edited 4:25PM
    Part of a very long tweet if you feel like some doomscrolling...



    Ilan Goldenberg
    @ilangoldenberg

    I woke up this morning with a pit in my stomach.

    ...

    In 2019, I worked on war game scenarios with energy and security experts examining what a conflict like this could do to oil markets. Scenarios in which the Strait of Hormuz stayed shut for 4-10 weeks, estimated prices would rise to $185 to $200 per barrel. We are at around $115, but it feels to me like markets are still underreacting and waiting for a near end that isn’t coming.

    https://x.com/ilangoldenberg/status/2039001047000080579
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 23,003
    isam said:

    Been a bit windy recently, but if they say so…

    The gangs have been smashed. It’s over

    Reform have stopped making noise about the small boat crossing..why? Because Labour have smashed the gangs.

    Illegal Channel crossings have collapsed. See for yourself.

    Promise made. Promise delivered. Labour is securing our borders.


    https://x.com/ashfordlabour/status/2038919231920558237?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    More than 2,600 in the four weeks prior to last week.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,873
    eek said:


    🚨 JUST IN — IT’S OFFICIAL: Palm Beach International Airport is now Donald J. Trump International Airport, following Gov. Ron DeSantis’ signature on HB919

    The name change goes into effect on July 1st.

    As well as the greed and vindictiveness, I think Trump has two main drivers:
    Short term it is being in the limelight. Dominating the news. In this he is very successful.
    Longer term it is his legacy. The naming, the portraits, the buildings etc.
    In this he is not going to be so successful. He will have a legacy but not the one he craves.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 27,080
    Leon said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    eek said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @TerryMoran

    Trump at war:

    1. Start war. Do not tell allies.

    2. Blow stuff up.

    3. Demand regime change.

    4. Blow up more stuff.

    5. Demand unconditional surrender.

    6. Get angry when enemy fights back.

    7. Make threats.

    8. Back down. Repeat.

    9. Demand allies finish war.

    10. Walk away.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038955268491321740?s=20

    No Global Superpower has ever lost this hard, this fast.

    Terry did an interview with Trump - this comment immediately below that covers a question regarding what Trump is like

    Sure. He seemed to me to be a guy who has two ways of dealing with people. Charm or fury. You get the charm if you kiss his a** or he needs something from you. And you get the fury if you don't kiss his a*** and challenge him.

    The key thing is that in the second case, he wants a fight on his terms. He wants you to take him on at his level of rage and insults and hollering. His tactic is to to tear you apart verbally, wound you, so that your blood boils and you try to fight back on his level, get down in the muck with him.

    But what if you're respectful--while still challenging him? What if you treat him in a calm, polite way, while standing up to him? He has no idea what to do with that. He's counting on his opponents to fight on his level.

    Think of Mark Carney. Trump hates that guy. Because Carney pushes back--hard. Stands up for himself and his country--very, very calmly. Still very tough. And Trump cannot deal with that.

    My goal in that interview was not to fight with him, but to confront him respectfully and forcefully with legitimate questions I thought people would want answered. I could tell it flummoxed him. At one point, Trump threatened to cut off the interview. I gave him no reason to do so. I simply told him we were going to finish. He sagged back in his chair. You can see it in the video; go look.

    At he end of the interview, Trump stormed out. ABC had arranged for a walk through the Rose Garden Concrete Patio. "NOT AFTER THAT INTERVIEW!" he barked. Stormed out. Susie Wiles and a Disney VP who was there had to beg him to come back--because ABC had booked an hour of prime time, and we were short. That's when he sat at the Resolute Desk and babbled about the Declaration of Independence. He wouldn't look at me. Still rattled.

    In the middle of the interview, as he got angrier and angrier at me, I remember looking into his eyes--narrowed and flashing with his emotion, a little bloodshot from all the makeup--and I thought, he's mean. But he's not tough.

    I think that's what we are seeing in this war.

    https://x.com/TerryMoran/status/2038983208855859577?s=20
    The other thing Trump can't remotely handle is being laughed at. Bursting his pompous bubble is very effective.

    He must be hating the trolling coming out of Tehran.
    It is but I hope he isn't trolled out of TACO. Him *not* doing things is always the better outcome. That's a good general rule.
    i really hope he hurries up and TACOs, coz this is getting messy and is going to ruin my plans


    "Excl: German airport hub Frankfurt, along with Delhi, Mumbai, Hong Kong, Manila, Melbourne airports are now ‘high risk’ for jet fuel shortage in April 🚨 - set to declare a jet fuel supply emergency to airlines in April, as US-Israel war on Iran continues."

    https://x.com/AlexInAir/status/2038984052921741571?s=20

    This could basically end air travel worldwide, very soon, because fuel will be so expensive tickets will triple in price, which no one can afford. So the planes don't fly

    The second third and fourth order effects of this STUPID war get progressively worse and wilder, once you think them through. Truly Armageddony shit is possible
    Wouldn't it be fucking ironic if Fifa World Cup was cancelled as half the teams and none of the supporters could get there.

    Up yours Donald
    This is actually a solid point

    If the war continues, the World Cup will be cancelled, because the world will be in turmoil. No ifs or buts, it just won't happen. Teams will be stranded, countries will boycott the USA, insurance will become impossible, airlines will be grounded, it will be a shitshow

    That would be a MASSIVE humiliation for Trump. His own precious tournament, ruined by his own impulsive stupidity

    I wonder if someone has sat him down and talked him through all this. Let's hope so
    He would see it as an opportunity, just make sure Infantino and Curacao still turn up then the USA can play Curacao in the final.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,712
    Lovely guy.

    Jan. 6 rioter pardoned by Trump gets prison sentence for possessing 'enormous child pornography collection'
    Daniel Tocci's attorney had previously argued that the case should be dismissed because “all the evidence" stemmed from his Capitol siege case.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/jan-6-rioter-pardoned-by-trump-sentenced-child-pornography-collection-rcna265963
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,424

    Spurs hire De Zerbi

    I actually think he'll do ok there and will be a great manager for their 2026/7 promotion push.

    When he was at OM, we had one good season then it fell apart with thumpings from Brugge and PSG in quick succession that sealed his fate. Having said that, expectations are always sky high at OM and if a manager doesn't win Ligue 1 and the CL while beating PSG home and away on the way then they're a failure.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,907
    I'd quite like to fly a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,443
    I mean, haddaway and shite


    "UFTHANSA IS THINKING ABOUT GROUNDCING 20 AIRPLANES BECAUSE OF THE WAR IN IRAN, ACCORDING TO HANDELSBLATT."

    "Airlines around the world are cancelling thousands of flights after the war in Iran caused jet fuel prices to more than double.

    More than one in 20 flights scheduled to take off on Monday was reportedly cancelled ⤵️"


    "Excl: Britain’s hub London Heathrow is the *highest-risk* major airport in Europe for jet fuel from April 🚨 as US-Israel war on Iran continues

    - Heathrow, with 1,300 flights daily, will struggle ‘the most, & the earliest’ with jet fuel as shortage worsens, & price surges 📈"

    And so on, and so forth, and so on, and et cetera
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,725
    Brixian59 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Here's wishing the Artemis II mission well.

    (FWIW, the ChiComs are competing with us, and doing the things that lead me to conclude they plan to build a base on the moon.)

    Things like officially announcing it ?

    China plans to build moon base at the lunar south pole by 2035
    https://www.space.com/china-moon-base-south-pole-2035

    I wish Artemis well too, but I doubt it will ever land astronauts on the moon.
    Wouldn't it be great if they found a flying pig round the dark side of the moon
    It's the far side, not the dark side. (Yes I know about Pink Floyd!)
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