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  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,807

    Brixian59 said:

    carnforth said:

    Brixian59 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Sign of the times? Sainsbury's had neither petrol nor diesel in Dartmouth today.

    Prices switched off.

    Same for one of then up here in W Yorks (another was open).

    The tell will be how soon they reopen.

    First wave of panic buying emptying one of the cheaper options in town isn't a massive surprise, but if they're not quickly back up, then...
    The Sainsbury's in both Cheltenham and Gloucester had run out on Friday because they were 6p a litre cheaper than anywone else.

    Every other filling station still had fuel.
    This is more down to cheap fuel funding apps than any shortage.

    It becomes a self inflicted disaster. Unnecessary journeys to save a few quid, people see false queues and panic sets in.

    May be wise to block these apps and everyone goes to their usual outlet.
    Your friends in Labour enabled this:

    https://www.facebook.com/labourparty/posts/the-governments-fuel-finder-is-now-making-sure-that-uk-petrol-stations-report-th/1506063714224971/

    It's a good thing, by the way.
    In normal times yes.

    When greedy cnuts take leave of their senses

    Turn it off

    BTW I'm not a Tribal Tory tosser, when I disagree with Labour I will say so


    Just lucky so far that you have never disagreed with labour so far then!
    I have on a number of occasions on here

    Clearly you aren't trolling well enough
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,969
    edited 6:47PM
    Alex Niven
    @Alex_Niven
    ·
    7h
    This is obviously all still subject to mad volatility, but a common thread in all of the recent polls is how much the Greens are going to be screwed by seat distribution (in a similar though not identical pattern to Corbyn's Labour), even if the current surge continues


    It dearly pains me to say this, but finding a (very short-term and shallow) solution for this conundrum was by some distance the biggest strategic success of Starmerism-McSweenyism

    Because of all this I feel like somehow pulling off official opposition should be the Green target for the next GE - without that they're basically nowhere (or rather roughly where the Lib Dems are in this parliament, which is pretty much nowhere)

    https://x.com/Alex_Niven/status/2038936102485029050

    ===

    He seems to miss Lab-Green-LibDem Cabinet option?
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,807

    carnforth said:

    Brixian59 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Sign of the times? Sainsbury's had neither petrol nor diesel in Dartmouth today.

    Prices switched off.

    Same for one of then up here in W Yorks (another was open).

    The tell will be how soon they reopen.

    First wave of panic buying emptying one of the cheaper options in town isn't a massive surprise, but if they're not quickly back up, then...
    The Sainsbury's in both Cheltenham and Gloucester had run out on Friday because they were 6p a litre cheaper than anywone else.

    Every other filling station still had fuel.
    This is more down to cheap fuel funding apps than any shortage.

    It becomes a self inflicted disaster. Unnecessary journeys to save a few quid, people see false queues and panic sets in.

    May be wise to block these apps and everyone goes to their usual outlet.
    Your friends in Labour enabled this:

    https://www.facebook.com/labourparty/posts/the-governments-fuel-finder-is-now-making-sure-that-uk-petrol-stations-report-th/1506063714224971/

    It's a good thing, by the way.
    One of the amazing things about this Labour government is on the (rare/not enough) occasions they do something good, like this, they don't really bother to tell anyone or claim credit.
    The right wing media barons who control 95% of print media and near 100% of TV media, would never allow anyone to credit Labour

    That was clear from day 1
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,955
    Barnesian said:

    eek said:


    🚨 JUST IN — IT’S OFFICIAL: Palm Beach International Airport is now Donald J. Trump International Airport, following Gov. Ron DeSantis’ signature on HB919

    The name change goes into effect on July 1st.

    As well as the greed and vindictiveness, I think Trump has two main drivers:
    Short term it is being in the limelight. Dominating the news. In this he is very successful.
    Longer term it is his legacy. The naming, the portraits, the buildings etc.
    In this he is not going to be so successful. He will have a legacy but not the one he craves.
    We can hope so.

    I did see one online Democratic supporter saying they hope Trump survives his full term, since if he dies in office the GOP will put his face up on Mount Rushmore.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 27,080
    Brixian59 said:

    carnforth said:

    Brixian59 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Sign of the times? Sainsbury's had neither petrol nor diesel in Dartmouth today.

    Prices switched off.

    Same for one of then up here in W Yorks (another was open).

    The tell will be how soon they reopen.

    First wave of panic buying emptying one of the cheaper options in town isn't a massive surprise, but if they're not quickly back up, then...
    The Sainsbury's in both Cheltenham and Gloucester had run out on Friday because they were 6p a litre cheaper than anywone else.

    Every other filling station still had fuel.
    This is more down to cheap fuel funding apps than any shortage.

    It becomes a self inflicted disaster. Unnecessary journeys to save a few quid, people see false queues and panic sets in.

    May be wise to block these apps and everyone goes to their usual outlet.
    Your friends in Labour enabled this:

    https://www.facebook.com/labourparty/posts/the-governments-fuel-finder-is-now-making-sure-that-uk-petrol-stations-report-th/1506063714224971/

    It's a good thing, by the way.
    One of the amazing things about this Labour government is on the (rare/not enough) occasions they do something good, like this, they don't really bother to tell anyone or claim credit.
    The right wing media barons who control 95% of print media and near 100% of TV media, would never allow anyone to credit Labour

    That was clear from day 1
    So do it on radio or online? Talk about little things they are doing that make a difference rather than in fighting or the big issues they can do little about (at least in the short term).
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,955
    Brixian59 said:

    carnforth said:

    Brixian59 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Sign of the times? Sainsbury's had neither petrol nor diesel in Dartmouth today.

    Prices switched off.

    Same for one of then up here in W Yorks (another was open).

    The tell will be how soon they reopen.

    First wave of panic buying emptying one of the cheaper options in town isn't a massive surprise, but if they're not quickly back up, then...
    The Sainsbury's in both Cheltenham and Gloucester had run out on Friday because they were 6p a litre cheaper than anywone else.

    Every other filling station still had fuel.
    This is more down to cheap fuel funding apps than any shortage.

    It becomes a self inflicted disaster. Unnecessary journeys to save a few quid, people see false queues and panic sets in.

    May be wise to block these apps and everyone goes to their usual outlet.
    Your friends in Labour enabled this:

    https://www.facebook.com/labourparty/posts/the-governments-fuel-finder-is-now-making-sure-that-uk-petrol-stations-report-th/1506063714224971/

    It's a good thing, by the way.
    One of the amazing things about this Labour government is on the (rare/not enough) occasions they do something good, like this, they don't really bother to tell anyone or claim credit.
    The right wing media barons who control 95% of print media and near 100% of TV media, would never allow anyone to credit Labour

    That was clear from day 1
    It's the job of a government to overcome negative press. They manage it to get elected after all.

    As true as negative press can be, it simply is not a good enough excuse anymore, especially when parties spend half their time boasting about how their enemies in the press cannot hold back the people or whatever.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,969

    https://x.com/ralakbar/status/2039031830276370653

    NEW!! U.S. confirms Belarus accession to Board of Peace charter

    The US letting Belarus back in from the cold is a trial run for doing the same with Russia and there's basically been zero reaction from Europe.
    400-odd days to go.

  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 27,080

    https://x.com/ralakbar/status/2039031830276370653

    NEW!! U.S. confirms Belarus accession to Board of Peace charter

    Is this another of those US spelling differences and they meant to invite all those who are Bored of Peace?
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,807

    Alex Niven
    @Alex_Niven
    ·
    7h
    This is obviously all still subject to mad volatility, but a common thread in all of the recent polls is how much the Greens are going to be screwed by seat distribution (in a similar though not identical pattern to Corbyn's Labour), even if the current surge continues


    It dearly pains me to say this, but finding a (very short-term and shallow) solution for this conundrum was by some distance the biggest strategic success of Starmerism-McSweenyism

    Because of all this I feel like somehow pulling off official opposition should be the Green target for the next GE - without that they're basically nowhere (or rather roughly where the Lib Dems are in this parliament, which is pretty much nowhere)

    https://x.com/Alex_Niven/status/2038936102485029050

    ===

    He seems to miss Lab-Green-LibDem Cabinet option?

    I've no doubt at all that McSweeney is already, or will soon be working on a 2028 2029 strategy as a WFH consultant somewhere.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,969
    Brixian59 said:

    Alex Niven
    @Alex_Niven
    ·
    7h
    This is obviously all still subject to mad volatility, but a common thread in all of the recent polls is how much the Greens are going to be screwed by seat distribution (in a similar though not identical pattern to Corbyn's Labour), even if the current surge continues


    It dearly pains me to say this, but finding a (very short-term and shallow) solution for this conundrum was by some distance the biggest strategic success of Starmerism-McSweenyism

    Because of all this I feel like somehow pulling off official opposition should be the Green target for the next GE - without that they're basically nowhere (or rather roughly where the Lib Dems are in this parliament, which is pretty much nowhere)

    https://x.com/Alex_Niven/status/2038936102485029050

    ===

    He seems to miss Lab-Green-LibDem Cabinet option?

    I've no doubt at all that McSweeney is already, or will soon be working on a 2028 2029 strategy as a WFH consultant somewhere.

    Using a telex machine no doubt.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,813

    All our deployable military assets must essentially be in Cyprus right now:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7vq76g45rvo

    How many air defence systems are left in Britain?
    Enough, probably.

    But it's logical to fortress Cyprus. It's the outer bulwark of our defences.
    The main threat we face as a consequence of this war is economic.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,592

    Brixian59 said:

    Alex Niven
    @Alex_Niven
    ·
    7h
    This is obviously all still subject to mad volatility, but a common thread in all of the recent polls is how much the Greens are going to be screwed by seat distribution (in a similar though not identical pattern to Corbyn's Labour), even if the current surge continues


    It dearly pains me to say this, but finding a (very short-term and shallow) solution for this conundrum was by some distance the biggest strategic success of Starmerism-McSweenyism

    Because of all this I feel like somehow pulling off official opposition should be the Green target for the next GE - without that they're basically nowhere (or rather roughly where the Lib Dems are in this parliament, which is pretty much nowhere)

    https://x.com/Alex_Niven/status/2038936102485029050

    ===

    He seems to miss Lab-Green-LibDem Cabinet option?

    I've no doubt at all that McSweeney is already, or will soon be working on a 2028 2029 strategy as a WFH consultant somewhere.

    Using a telex machine no doubt.
    He's not phoning it in, that's for sure.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,549
    https://x.com/MarcoFoster_/status/2039037527659557066

    Nancy Pelosi: “I think Hillary Clinton was the most qualified person of that generation. More qualified than her husband, more qualified than George W. Bush, more qualified than Barack Obama. Certainly more qualified than the creature that is there now”
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,418

    Brixian59 said:

    Alex Niven
    @Alex_Niven
    ·
    7h
    This is obviously all still subject to mad volatility, but a common thread in all of the recent polls is how much the Greens are going to be screwed by seat distribution (in a similar though not identical pattern to Corbyn's Labour), even if the current surge continues


    It dearly pains me to say this, but finding a (very short-term and shallow) solution for this conundrum was by some distance the biggest strategic success of Starmerism-McSweenyism

    Because of all this I feel like somehow pulling off official opposition should be the Green target for the next GE - without that they're basically nowhere (or rather roughly where the Lib Dems are in this parliament, which is pretty much nowhere)

    https://x.com/Alex_Niven/status/2038936102485029050

    ===

    He seems to miss Lab-Green-LibDem Cabinet option?

    I've no doubt at all that McSweeney is already, or will soon be working on a 2028 2029 strategy as a WFH consultant somewhere.

    Using a telex machine no doubt.
    Omg, I used to use one of those in the 80s. Blast from the past.
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,417

    Brixian59 said:

    Alex Niven
    @Alex_Niven
    ·
    7h
    This is obviously all still subject to mad volatility, but a common thread in all of the recent polls is how much the Greens are going to be screwed by seat distribution (in a similar though not identical pattern to Corbyn's Labour), even if the current surge continues


    It dearly pains me to say this, but finding a (very short-term and shallow) solution for this conundrum was by some distance the biggest strategic success of Starmerism-McSweenyism

    Because of all this I feel like somehow pulling off official opposition should be the Green target for the next GE - without that they're basically nowhere (or rather roughly where the Lib Dems are in this parliament, which is pretty much nowhere)

    https://x.com/Alex_Niven/status/2038936102485029050

    ===

    He seems to miss Lab-Green-LibDem Cabinet option?

    I've no doubt at all that McSweeney is already, or will soon be working on a 2028 2029 strategy as a WFH consultant somewhere.

    Using a telex machine no doubt.
    Omg, I used to use one of those in the 80s. Blast from the past.
    Same here. Late eighties and very early nineties until the Fax machine came in !
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 59,001

    Taz said:

    Battlebus said:

    Seems it's all over according to the US. I get the feeling that the fog of war is particularly foggy this time round.

    Stocks surge to session highs on optimism that Iran may be ready to end war

    By Isabel Wang

    U.S. stocks were surging to their session highs in afternoon trading on Tuesday on optimism over an unconfirmed report said that Iran president Masoud Pezeshkian may be ready to end the war, but that guarantees are still wanted.
    Apple up nearly 3% despite Iran threatening it and other tech companies.

    Markets are mad.

    Even if Trump TACOs and walks on Friday leaving Straits unsolved the world economy will be battered.
    Markets replying to this

    ‘ BREAKING: Iran's President Pezeshkian says Iran is ready to end the war with the US but wants guarantees.

    US stocks are surging on the news.


    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2039021177385975981?s=61
    If the earlier reports are accurate, the IRGC think they are running things, not Pezeshkian.
    Who will get to him first, the Israelis or the IRGC?
  • MonkeysMonkeys Posts: 859

    https://x.com/MarcoFoster_/status/2039037527659557066

    Nancy Pelosi: “I think Hillary Clinton was the most qualified person of that generation. More qualified than her husband, more qualified than George W. Bush, more qualified than Barack Obama. Certainly more qualified than the creature that is there now”

    No First Ladies have gone on to become president, the last time someone went from Secretary of State to President without being Vice President in the interim is the mid nineteenth century. The whole argument was silly anyway and smacks of entitlement.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,041
    And another one gone
    https://x.com/i/status/2039047014902595601

    Reforms candidate vetting is world class
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 5,081
    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,687

    And another one gone
    https://x.com/i/status/2039047014902595601

    Reforms candidate vetting is world class

    Must be good if they're getting rid of them like this.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 59,001
    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    He has got to be at some risk of Noem taking him down to the quarry... “He was out of his mind with excitement, chasing all those "birds" and having the time of his life”.

    B-A-N-G......
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,807

    Brixian59 said:

    Alex Niven
    @Alex_Niven
    ·
    7h
    This is obviously all still subject to mad volatility, but a common thread in all of the recent polls is how much the Greens are going to be screwed by seat distribution (in a similar though not identical pattern to Corbyn's Labour), even if the current surge continues


    It dearly pains me to say this, but finding a (very short-term and shallow) solution for this conundrum was by some distance the biggest strategic success of Starmerism-McSweenyism

    Because of all this I feel like somehow pulling off official opposition should be the Green target for the next GE - without that they're basically nowhere (or rather roughly where the Lib Dems are in this parliament, which is pretty much nowhere)

    https://x.com/Alex_Niven/status/2038936102485029050

    ===

    He seems to miss Lab-Green-LibDem Cabinet option?

    I've no doubt at all that McSweeney is already, or will soon be working on a 2028 2029 strategy as a WFH consultant somewhere.

    Using a telex machine no doubt.
    A burner a day keeps the fuzz at Bay
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,041
    Andy_JS said:

    And another one gone
    https://x.com/i/status/2039047014902595601

    Reforms candidate vetting is world class

    Must be good if they're getting rid of them like this.
    Chuck in a dozen names and hope 6 arent iffy
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 62,037

    Taz said:

    Battlebus said:

    Seems it's all over according to the US. I get the feeling that the fog of war is particularly foggy this time round.

    Stocks surge to session highs on optimism that Iran may be ready to end war

    By Isabel Wang

    U.S. stocks were surging to their session highs in afternoon trading on Tuesday on optimism over an unconfirmed report said that Iran president Masoud Pezeshkian may be ready to end the war, but that guarantees are still wanted.
    Apple up nearly 3% despite Iran threatening it and other tech companies.

    Markets are mad.

    Even if Trump TACOs and walks on Friday leaving Straits unsolved the world economy will be battered.
    Markets replying to this

    ‘ BREAKING: Iran's President Pezeshkian says Iran is ready to end the war with the US but wants guarantees.

    US stocks are surging on the news.


    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2039021177385975981?s=61
    If the earlier reports are accurate, the IRGC think they are running things, not Pezeshkian.
    Who will get to him first, the Israelis or the IRGC?
    IRGC leaks his location to the Israelis. Who help out by creating another Martyr Of The Revolution.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 62,037
    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    That’s sounds like a way of saying “a bunch of people who are into trans are not people I like, therefore they aren’t into trans.”
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,418
    Taz said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Alex Niven
    @Alex_Niven
    ·
    7h
    This is obviously all still subject to mad volatility, but a common thread in all of the recent polls is how much the Greens are going to be screwed by seat distribution (in a similar though not identical pattern to Corbyn's Labour), even if the current surge continues


    It dearly pains me to say this, but finding a (very short-term and shallow) solution for this conundrum was by some distance the biggest strategic success of Starmerism-McSweenyism

    Because of all this I feel like somehow pulling off official opposition should be the Green target for the next GE - without that they're basically nowhere (or rather roughly where the Lib Dems are in this parliament, which is pretty much nowhere)

    https://x.com/Alex_Niven/status/2038936102485029050

    ===

    He seems to miss Lab-Green-LibDem Cabinet option?

    I've no doubt at all that McSweeney is already, or will soon be working on a 2028 2029 strategy as a WFH consultant somewhere.

    Using a telex machine no doubt.
    Omg, I used to use one of those in the 80s. Blast from the past.
    Same here. Late eighties and very early nineties until the Fax machine came in !
    It was using the telec which helped me learn to touch type, though telexs don't have lower case.
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 5,081

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    That’s sounds like a way of saying “a bunch of people who are into trans are not people I like, therefore they aren’t into trans.”
    A weird fetishistic guy wearing a "woman suit" with ridiculous breasts is not trans. He's a weird fetishistic guy with a paraphilia.

    IIRC one of the key diagnostic criteria used to separate out the genuine trans women from the cross dressing fetishists is the desire to present as female in normal circumstances, e.g. being perceived as an ordinary woman while out doing your weekly Tesco's shop or whatever. If you only desire to be a woman while "getting off on it" you're a cross dresser / fetishist and thus would not qualify for a medical diagnosis.

    So no, it's not a way to say "a bunch of people who are into trans are not people I like", it's that medical diagnosis (required to start treatment) considers one group to be trans, the other to be fetishistic men.

    So much of the current farrago is down to too much elision by the general public between the two groups, which are often lumped together - but not in medical terms. The person in the pic above is a fetishistic man, not a trans woman, medically speaking.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,839
    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    I meant no offence, and we do not yet know quite what motivates Byron Noem. I suspect that you are right and he is merely a fetishist rather than gender misaligned.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 135,165
    Most constituency seats in Scotland will be SNP v Reform now I suspect though so it is the SNP who benefit from anti Reform tactical voting. If Scottish Labour can portray themselves as the main opponents to Reform in much of Glasgow and the central belt though then they could benefit from anti Reform tactical voting and even pick up a few seats from the SNP. Reform will also hope to pick up Banffshire and Buchan coast from the SNP as it is the only area in Scotland that voted Leave. Plus some of the Tory rural seats in the Borders and Aberdeenshire.

    On the list Reform could also perform well and maybe deprive the Greens of a few seats they might otherwise have won
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,443
    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    It’s not just men who like kink

    I once had a very pretty girlfriend who had really involved sexual fantasies surrounding bath time. She demanded that I go to Hamleys and a buy a bath toy which she found particularly arousing

    The toy had a clockwork mechanism meaning it could whirr around the bath-water and go into corners… and indeed into all sorts of places. The toy made her very happy. She called it “Mister Squiddy”

    In daily life she had a very sober and serious job. Humans are gloriously weird
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,372
    Monkeys said:

    https://x.com/MarcoFoster_/status/2039037527659557066

    Nancy Pelosi: “I think Hillary Clinton was the most qualified person of that generation. More qualified than her husband, more qualified than George W. Bush, more qualified than Barack Obama. Certainly more qualified than the creature that is there now”

    No First Ladies have gone on to become president, the last time someone went from Secretary of State to President without being Vice President in the interim is the mid nineteenth century. The whole argument was silly anyway and smacks of entitlement.
    No woman has ever become President, so that’s not exactly a killer point.

    I have to say though, I’m not sure how ‘highly qualified’ Hilary Clinton was. Leaving aside the key qualification is to get elected, which she couldn’t, her career in public service didn’t exactly mark her out as a latter day Lincoln. Her healthcare initiative was a fiasco, her tenure as Secretary of State was underwhelming and her career was brought to a juddering halt by her misuse of government data.

    Would she have been better than Trump? Of course she would, as her husband was, as George W Bush was, as would the rats in Stafford’s sewers be, but she wasn’t so crazily able as to make everyone think ‘WTF was she not picked ahead of everyone else?’
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 5,081
    Foxy said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    I meant no offence, and we do not yet know quite what motivates Byron Noem. I suspect that you are right and he is merely a fetishist rather than gender misaligned.
    None taken whatsoever, I know you were joking. It's just I have seen too many people on this forum (not your good self) use examples such as the photo above to demonstrate that trans women are actually fetishistic men in disguise. Hence the reason I thought I'd pipe up to point the difference between the two.

    AIUI some trans women do *start out* experimenting with kink but quickly realise they're more interested in being a different gender full time, but you need the "full time" part to qualify for the diagnosis.

    As per Leon's comment, I'm not trying to kink shame either, if people want to get off on wearing giant rubber breasts more power to them.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,443
    edited 7:34PM
    Also, why is this fetishistic guy (of whom I’ve never heard) immediately categorised as “creepy”? Has he done creepy things? Has he molested anyone? Gone for underage girls? Anything? If he has then fair enough. But if he hasn’t then leave him alone.

    Maybe he just likes wearing fake breasts. Seems fairly harmless and much less weird than many other fetishes
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,564
    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    The lumping in of creepy fetishistic men with trans people isn't the fault of those sitting on the trans-sceptical side of the argument, it is a feature of a law that allows a person to declare themselves the opposite sex if they so desire. This silly sod with his bizarre uneven fake boobs is exactly the type who could demand his right to enter a ladies' changing room because he is a woman.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,041
    HYUFD said:

    Most constituency seats in Scotland will be SNP v Reform now I suspect though so it is the SNP who benefit from anti Reform tactical voting. If Scottish Labour can portray themselves as the main opponents to Reform in much of Glasgow and the central belt though then they could benefit from anti Reform tactical voting and even pick up a few seats from the SNP. Reform will also hope to pick up Banffshire and Buchan coast from the SNP as it is the only area in Scotland that voted Leave. Plus some of the Tory rural seats in the Borders and Aberdeenshire.

    On the list Reform could also perform well and maybe deprive the Greens of a few seats they might otherwise have won

    I think Reforms chaotic candidate launch and campaign will see them dramatically underperform in Scotland
    As such i think they'll find even second place in constituencies the exception rather than the norm
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,953
    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    It’s not just men who like kink

    I once had a very pretty girlfriend who had really involved sexual fantasies surrounding bath time. She demanded that I go to Hamleys and a buy a bath toy which she found particularly arousing

    The toy had a clockwork mechanism meaning it could whirr around the bath-water and go into corners… and indeed into all sorts of places. The toy made her very happy. She called it “Mister Squiddy”

    In daily life she had a very sober and serious job. Humans are gloriously weird
    I used to share a flat with a girl who's "thing" was having the inside of her nose licked. She had a fairly regular rota of boyfriends who also had that as a "thing" (albeit in reverse).

    Humans are indeed a strange bunch.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,372
    Leon said:

    Also, why is this fetishistic guy (of whom I’ve never heard) immediately categorised as “creepy”? Has he done creepy things? Has he molested anyone? Gone for underage girls? Anything? If he has then fair enough. But if he hasn’t then leave him alone.

    Maybe he just likes wearing fake breasts. Seems fairly harmless and much less weird than any other fetishes

    He’s married to somebody who likes shooting family pets and random passers by, and hasn’t sued for divorce.

    That sounds slightly weird to me, regardless of his sartorial choices.
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 3,656
    HYUFD said:

    Most constituency seats in Scotland will be SNP v Reform now I suspect though so it is the SNP who benefit from anti Reform tactical voting. If Scottish Labour can portray themselves as the main opponents to Reform in much of Glasgow and the central belt though then they could benefit from anti Reform tactical voting and even pick up a few seats from the SNP. Reform will also hope to pick up Banffshire and Buchan coast from the SNP as it is the only area in Scotland that voted Leave. Plus some of the Tory rural seats in the Borders and Aberdeenshire.

    On the list Reform could also perform well and maybe deprive the Greens of a few seats they might otherwise have won

    Bear in mind pretty well all of the Central Belt seats have Labour MPs so it will be pretty obvious who are the main challengers to the SNP. Overall I suspect Reform will flatter to deceive in Scotland.

    (They also have a heroically lousy cohort of candidates but quite how bad they are will only become apparent after the election, rather than before, despite the multiple resignations in recent days.)
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,914
    Leon said:

    Also, why is this fetishistic guy (of whom I’ve never heard) immediately categorised as “creepy”? Has he done creepy things? Has he molested anyone? Gone for underage girls? Anything? If he has then fair enough. But if he hasn’t then leave him alone.

    Maybe he just likes wearing fake breasts. Seems fairly harmless and much less weird than many other fetishes

    I agree.

    Probs don't post pictures of it online whilst married to an extremely conservative, prominent national politician, but the fetish (or whatever) itself seems harmless.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,609
    edited 7:39PM

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    The lumping in of creepy fetishistic men with trans people isn't the fault of those sitting on the trans-sceptical side of the argument, it is a feature of a law that allows a person to declare themselves the opposite sex if they so desire. This silly sod with his bizarre uneven fake boobs is exactly the type who could demand his right to enter a ladies' changing room because he is a woman.
    In private, no? In public, it can involve getting off on the public's reaction. If your dick gets hard cross-dressing in public because other people are validating the fetish by accepting it, then maybe yes. Especially if the people validating it are children.

    Edit: whoops, this was a reply to @Leon's post above.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,054
    Good news for Britain, and probably for global peace.

    The Tangerine Tejero has a new enemy, closer to home;

    The National Trust for Historic Preservation sues me for a Ballroom that is under budget, ahead of schedule, being built at no cost to the Taxpayer, and will be the finest Building of its kind anywhere in the World. I then get sued by them over the renovation of the dilapidated and structurally unsound former Kennedy Center, now, The Trump Kennedy Center (A show of Bipartisan Unity, a Republican and Democrat President!), where all I am doing is fixing, cleaning, running, and “sprucing up” a terribly maintained, for many years, Building, but a Building of potentially great importance. Yet, The National Trust for Historic Preservation, a Radical Left Group of Lunatics whose funding was stopped by Congress in 2005, is not suing the Federal Reserve for a Building which has been decimated and destroyed, inside and out, by an incompetent and possibly corrupt Fed Chairman. The once magnificent Building is BILLIONS over budget, may never be completed, and may never open. All of the beautiful walls inside have been ripped down, never to be built again, but the National “Trust” for Historic Preservation never did anything about it! Or, have they sued on Governor Gavin Newscum’s “RAILROAD TO NOWHERE” in California that is BILLIONS over Budget and, probably, will never open or be used. So, the White House Ballroom, and The Trump Kennedy Center, which are under budget, ahead of schedule, and will be among the most magnificent Buildings of their kind anywhere in the World, gets sued by a group that was cut off by Government years ago, but all of the many DISASTERS in our Country are left alone to die. Doesn’t make much sense, does it? President DONALD J. TRUMP



  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 5,081

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    The lumping in of creepy fetishistic men with trans people isn't the fault of those sitting on the trans-sceptical side of the argument, it is a feature of a law that allows a person to declare themselves the opposite sex if they so desire. This silly sod with his bizarre uneven fake boobs is exactly the type who could demand his right to enter a ladies' changing room because he is a woman.
    This is not true. In the UK at least (I did quite a bit of research into this for Viewcode's article) you can only change gender markers and thus be considered female if you have a doctor's note and so called "real life experience", i.e. you need to prove you are living as a woman full time before you can change your status and be seen as one in law.

    And it is precisely to keep fetishistic men out of women's spaces that I oppose self ID and think medical intervention is necessary.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,443
    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    It’s not just men who like kink

    I once had a very pretty girlfriend who had really involved sexual fantasies surrounding bath time. She demanded that I go to Hamleys and a buy a bath toy which she found particularly arousing

    The toy had a clockwork mechanism meaning it could whirr around the bath-water and go into corners… and indeed into all sorts of places. The toy made her very happy. She called it “Mister Squiddy”

    In daily life she had a very sober and serious job. Humans are gloriously weird
    I used to share a flat with a girl who's "thing" was having the inside of her nose licked. She had a fairly regular rota of boyfriends who also had that as a "thing" (albeit in reverse).

    Humans are indeed a strange bunch.
    Superb! And, yes, quite so

    As long as it’s consenting adults and no one gets seriously harmed, live and let live. We are all made of crooked timber

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,955
    ydoethur said:

    Monkeys said:

    https://x.com/MarcoFoster_/status/2039037527659557066

    Nancy Pelosi: “I think Hillary Clinton was the most qualified person of that generation. More qualified than her husband, more qualified than George W. Bush, more qualified than Barack Obama. Certainly more qualified than the creature that is there now”

    No First Ladies have gone on to become president, the last time someone went from Secretary of State to President without being Vice President in the interim is the mid nineteenth century. The whole argument was silly anyway and smacks of entitlement.
    her tenure as Secretary of State was underwhelming ’
    Surely not, she was so amazing as Secretary of State she ended up becoming President whilst running as as Independent no less. No wait, that was the show Madam Secretary

    A show which, funnily enough, was terrible once the lead became President.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,372
    edited 7:40PM

    Good news for Britain, and probably for global peace.

    The Tangerine Tejero has a new enemy, closer to home;

    The National Trust for Historic Preservation sues me for a Ballroom that is under budget, ahead of schedule, being built at no cost to the Taxpayer, and will be the finest Building of its kind anywhere in the World. I then get sued by them over the renovation of the dilapidated and structurally unsound former Kennedy Center, now, The Trump Kennedy Center (A show of Bipartisan Unity, a Republican and Democrat President!), where all I am doing is fixing, cleaning, running, and “sprucing up” a terribly maintained, for many years, Building, but a Building of potentially great importance. Yet, The National Trust for Historic Preservation, a Radical Left Group of Lunatics whose funding was stopped by Congress in 2005, is not suing the Federal Reserve for a Building which has been decimated and destroyed, inside and out, by an incompetent and possibly corrupt Fed Chairman. The once magnificent Building is BILLIONS over budget, may never be completed, and may never open. All of the beautiful walls inside have been ripped down, never to be built again, but the National “Trust” for Historic Preservation never did anything about it! Or, have they sued on Governor Gavin Newscum’s “RAILROAD TO NOWHERE” in California that is BILLIONS over Budget and, probably, will never open or be used. So, the White House Ballroom, and The Trump Kennedy Center, which are under budget, ahead of schedule, and will be among the most magnificent Buildings of their kind anywhere in the World, gets sued by a group that was cut off by Government years ago, but all of the many DISASTERS in our Country are left alone to die. Doesn’t make much sense, does it? President DONALD J. TRUMP

    I actually find myself in partial agreement with Trump, and would go further.

    None of the rest of that post makes any sense whatsoever.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,712

    https://x.com/ralakbar/status/2039031830276370653

    NEW!! U.S. confirms Belarus accession to Board of Peace charter

    The US letting Belarus back in from the cold is a trial run for doing the same with Russia and there's basically been zero reaction from Europe.
    As well as being grift on a very large scale (Trump has illegally donated $1.5bn of government funds to himself through the vehicle), it's a way of conducting foreign policy unrestricted by Congress.

    Europe really needs to start getting serious about the threat on its borders.

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,839
    Japan 1 nil up at the break.

    Englands defence looks fragile and I am not convinced by the options up front.

    I suppose we will follow Scotland in boycotting the later stages of the World Cup.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,609

    Good news for Britain, and probably for global peace.

    The Tangerine Tejero has a new enemy, closer to home;

    The National Trust for Historic Preservation sues me for a Ballroom that is under budget, ahead of schedule, being built at no cost to the Taxpayer, and will be the finest Building of its kind anywhere in the World. I then get sued by them over the renovation of the dilapidated and structurally unsound former Kennedy Center, now, The Trump Kennedy Center (A show of Bipartisan Unity, a Republican and Democrat President!), where all I am doing is fixing, cleaning, running, and “sprucing up” a terribly maintained, for many years, Building, but a Building of potentially great importance. Yet, The National Trust for Historic Preservation, a Radical Left Group of Lunatics whose funding was stopped by Congress in 2005, is not suing the Federal Reserve for a Building which has been decimated and destroyed, inside and out, by an incompetent and possibly corrupt Fed Chairman. The once magnificent Building is BILLIONS over budget, may never be completed, and may never open. All of the beautiful walls inside have been ripped down, never to be built again, but the National “Trust” for Historic Preservation never did anything about it! Or, have they sued on Governor Gavin Newscum’s “RAILROAD TO NOWHERE” in California that is BILLIONS over Budget and, probably, will never open or be used. So, the White House Ballroom, and The Trump Kennedy Center, which are under budget, ahead of schedule, and will be among the most magnificent Buildings of their kind anywhere in the World, gets sued by a group that was cut off by Government years ago, but all of the many DISASTERS in our Country are left alone to die. Doesn’t make much sense, does it? President DONALD J. TRUMP



    President Trump did not thank me for my attention to this matter. Tosser.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 135,165
    edited 7:43PM

    HYUFD said:

    Most constituency seats in Scotland will be SNP v Reform now I suspect though so it is the SNP who benefit from anti Reform tactical voting. If Scottish Labour can portray themselves as the main opponents to Reform in much of Glasgow and the central belt though then they could benefit from anti Reform tactical voting and even pick up a few seats from the SNP. Reform will also hope to pick up Banffshire and Buchan coast from the SNP as it is the only area in Scotland that voted Leave. Plus some of the Tory rural seats in the Borders and Aberdeenshire.

    On the list Reform could also perform well and maybe deprive the Greens of a few seats they might otherwise have won

    I think Reforms chaotic candidate launch and campaign will see them dramatically underperform in Scotland
    As such i think they'll find even second place in constituencies the exception rather than the norm
    Given Reform start on 0 seats in Scotland and it is the only country in GB which voted Remain I doubt even Reform expect to do that well there.

    Their campaign will be very focused I expect, targeting mainly Tory held constituencies and as I said SNP held Banffshire and Buchan coast which voted Leave in 2016. Beyond that they will just try and get some list MSPs in most regions
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,955
    edited 7:43PM

    Good news for Britain, and probably for global peace.

    The Tangerine Tejero has a new enemy, closer to home;

    The National Trust for Historic Preservation sues me for a Ballroom that is under budget, ahead of schedule, being built at no cost to the Taxpayer, and will be the finest Building of its kind anywhere in the World. I then get sued by them over the renovation of the dilapidated and structurally unsound former Kennedy Center, now, The Trump Kennedy Center (A show of Bipartisan Unity, a Republican and Democrat President!), where all I am doing is fixing, cleaning, running, and “sprucing up” a terribly maintained, for many years, Building, but a Building of potentially great importance. Yet, The National Trust for Historic Preservation, a Radical Left Group of Lunatics whose funding was stopped by Congress in 2005, is not suing the Federal Reserve for a Building which has been decimated and destroyed, inside and out, by an incompetent and possibly corrupt Fed Chairman. The once magnificent Building is BILLIONS over budget, may never be completed, and may never open. All of the beautiful walls inside have been ripped down, never to be built again, but the National “Trust” for Historic Preservation never did anything about it! Or, have they sued on Governor Gavin Newscum’s “RAILROAD TO NOWHERE” in California that is BILLIONS over Budget and, probably, will never open or be used. So, the White House Ballroom, and The Trump Kennedy Center, which are under budget, ahead of schedule, and will be among the most magnificent Buildings of their kind anywhere in the World, gets sued by a group that was cut off by Government years ago, but all of the many DISASTERS in our Country are left alone to die. Doesn’t make much sense, does it? President DONALD J. TRUMP



    Trump is definitely becoming more reasonable and moderate - he only claimed that Jerome Powell was 'possibly' corrupt.

    Must have been angry though, he didn't thank us for our 'attention to this matter'.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,077
    @cnn.com‬

    A federal judge has blocked President Donald Trump from moving ahead with any further work on a massive new ballroom on the former site of the White House's East Wing.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,955
    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    It’s not just men who like kink

    I once had a very pretty girlfriend who had really involved sexual fantasies surrounding bath time. She demanded that I go to Hamleys and a buy a bath toy which she found particularly arousing

    The toy had a clockwork mechanism meaning it could whirr around the bath-water and go into corners… and indeed into all sorts of places. The toy made her very happy. She called it “Mister Squiddy”

    In daily life she had a very sober and serious job. Humans are gloriously weird
    I used to share a flat with a girl who's "thing" was having the inside of her nose licked. She had a fairly regular rota of boyfriends who also had that as a "thing" (albeit in reverse).

    Humans are indeed a strange bunch.
    On the whole we're still quite prudish I think, and I include myself in that, despite some moves towards not 'kink shaming' in recent years. Sometimes things being right in people's faces just reinforces judgemental tendencies.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,194
    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Also, why is this fetishistic guy (of whom I’ve never heard) immediately categorised as “creepy”? Has he done creepy things? Has he molested anyone? Gone for underage girls? Anything? If he has then fair enough. But if he hasn’t then leave him alone.

    Maybe he just likes wearing fake breasts. Seems fairly harmless and much less weird than any other fetishes

    He’s married to somebody who likes shooting family pets and random passers by, and hasn’t sued for divorce.

    That sounds slightly weird to me, regardless of his sartorial choices.
    Replied to your email.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,760
    US stock markets up 2.5% today.
    In a world where we are contemplating jet fuel shortages.
    There's an epidemic of wilful blindness.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,839
    kyf_100 said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    The lumping in of creepy fetishistic men with trans people isn't the fault of those sitting on the trans-sceptical side of the argument, it is a feature of a law that allows a person to declare themselves the opposite sex if they so desire. This silly sod with his bizarre uneven fake boobs is exactly the type who could demand his right to enter a ladies' changing room because he is a woman.
    This is not true. In the UK at least (I did quite a bit of research into this for Viewcode's article) you can only change gender markers and thus be considered female if you have a doctor's note and so called "real life experience", i.e. you need to prove you are living as a woman full time before you can change your status and be seen as one in law.

    And it is precisely to keep fetishistic men out of women's spaces that I oppose self ID and think medical intervention is necessary.
    The recent judgement does rather render a GRC meaningless, but I agree there should be some sort of formal medical evaluation.

    In practice it is very difficult to access gender services, and waiting lists are years long on the NHS, so people live in their new gender without any real support.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 135,165
    edited 7:52PM
    According to today's Yougov Nowcast projects Kemi would remain LOTO, just to PM Farage not PM Starmer. Sir Keir would have the humiliation of being the first UK PM to lose a general election and become only 3rd party leader, not even LOTO

    Reform 231
    Conservatives 94
    Labour 85
    LD 76
    Green 75
    SNP 45
    PC 18

    https://electionmaps.uk/nowcast/custom

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2038895837372100960?s=20
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,712
    Leon said:

    Also, why is this fetishistic guy (of whom I’ve never heard) immediately categorised as “creepy”? Has he done creepy things? Has he molested anyone? Gone for underage girls? Anything? If he has then fair enough. But if he hasn’t then leave him alone.

    Maybe he just likes wearing fake breasts. Seems fairly harmless and much less weird than many other fetishes

    The details are unusual (a fetish for women with unnaturally large enlarged breasts, reportedly), but not exactly 'creepy' - except it was apparently unknown to his wife, who is reported to be "devastated".
    (Then again, she's widely believed to have been conducting her own extra-marital affair.)

    Assuming it was all consensual, I don't really care.

    The fact that Noem is both incompetent and massively corrupt is way more of a concern.

  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,564
    ...
    kyf_100 said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    The lumping in of creepy fetishistic men with trans people isn't the fault of those sitting on the trans-sceptical side of the argument, it is a feature of a law that allows a person to declare themselves the opposite sex if they so desire. This silly sod with his bizarre uneven fake boobs is exactly the type who could demand his right to enter a ladies' changing room because he is a woman.
    This is not true. In the UK at least (I did quite a bit of research into this for Viewcode's article) you can only change gender markers and thus be considered female if you have a doctor's note and so called "real life experience", i.e. you need to prove you are living as a woman full time before you can change your status and be seen as one in law.

    And it is precisely to keep fetishistic men out of women's spaces that I oppose self ID and think medical intervention is necessary.
    You contradict yourself. Either the self id regime is enough to keep fetishistic men out of women's spaces or it isn't.

    I think our views on self id are probably very similar.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,839
    dixiedean said:

    US stock markets up 2.5% today.
    In a world where we are contemplating jet fuel shortages.
    There's an epidemic of wilful blindness.

    Yes, I think even if all ships could pass through Hormuz tommorow there would be considerable aftershocks for the worlds economies.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,955
    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    US stock markets up 2.5% today.
    In a world where we are contemplating jet fuel shortages.
    There's an epidemic of wilful blindness.

    Yes, I think even if all ships could pass through Hormuz tommorow there would be considerable aftershocks for the worlds economies.
    Knowing next to nothing I am assuming that starting up the flow from the production sites will be a little more than just turning the taps back on, so at the very least there would be some additional delays even if all worked out tomorrow.
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 5,081
    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    It’s not just men who like kink

    I once had a very pretty girlfriend who had really involved sexual fantasies surrounding bath time. She demanded that I go to Hamleys and a buy a bath toy which she found particularly arousing

    The toy had a clockwork mechanism meaning it could whirr around the bath-water and go into corners… and indeed into all sorts of places. The toy made her very happy. She called it “Mister Squiddy”

    In daily life she had a very sober and serious job. Humans are gloriously weird
    In my experience the ladies are far kinkier in the bedroom than I have ever been. I think it is because women use this thing called "the imagination" whereas men tend to be much more physical/visual in their choice of stimulus...
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,955
    HYUFD said:

    According to today's Yougov Nowcast projects Kemi would remain LOTO, just to PM Farage not PM Starmer. Sir Keir would have the humiliation of being the first UK PM to lose a general election and become only 3rd party leader, not even LOTO

    Reform 231
    Conservatives 94
    Labour 85
    LD 76
    Green 75
    SNP 45
    PC 18

    https://electionmaps.uk/nowcast/custom

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2038895837372100960?s=20

    That'd be a new GE in short order I suspect.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,955
    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    It’s not just men who like kink

    I once had a very pretty girlfriend who had really involved sexual fantasies surrounding bath time. She demanded that I go to Hamleys and a buy a bath toy which she found particularly arousing

    The toy had a clockwork mechanism meaning it could whirr around the bath-water and go into corners… and indeed into all sorts of places. The toy made her very happy. She called it “Mister Squiddy”

    In daily life she had a very sober and serious job. Humans are gloriously weird
    In my experience the ladies are far kinkier in the bedroom than I have ever been. I think it is because women use this thing called "the imagination" whereas men tend to be much more physical/visual in their choice of stimulus...
    Must explain all that female beastiality fiction the internet keeps telling me about.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,712
    kle4 said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    It’s not just men who like kink

    I once had a very pretty girlfriend who had really involved sexual fantasies surrounding bath time. She demanded that I go to Hamleys and a buy a bath toy which she found particularly arousing

    The toy had a clockwork mechanism meaning it could whirr around the bath-water and go into corners… and indeed into all sorts of places. The toy made her very happy. She called it “Mister Squiddy”

    In daily life she had a very sober and serious job. Humans are gloriously weird
    I used to share a flat with a girl who's "thing" was having the inside of her nose licked. She had a fairly regular rota of boyfriends who also had that as a "thing" (albeit in reverse).

    Humans are indeed a strange bunch.
    On the whole we're still quite prudish I think, and I include myself in that, despite some moves towards not 'kink shaming' in recent years. Sometimes things being right in people's faces just reinforces judgemental tendencies.
    There is a political angle, of course, given the huge disconnect between GOP public attitudes and policy towards sexuality, and their own private behaviour.

    But the guy doesn't seem to have much political involvement himself, so it's not really even much of an issue of hypocrisy outside of his own family.
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,307
    Late to the topic, as I instantly dismissed the constituencies polling. Green share of 8% of the likely turnout is 220,000 votes compared to the 36,000 they got in 2021. From standing in only six seats compared to twelve last time.

    As we say up here - Aye, Right :D
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 5,081
    Foxy said:

    kyf_100 said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    The lumping in of creepy fetishistic men with trans people isn't the fault of those sitting on the trans-sceptical side of the argument, it is a feature of a law that allows a person to declare themselves the opposite sex if they so desire. This silly sod with his bizarre uneven fake boobs is exactly the type who could demand his right to enter a ladies' changing room because he is a woman.
    This is not true. In the UK at least (I did quite a bit of research into this for Viewcode's article) you can only change gender markers and thus be considered female if you have a doctor's note and so called "real life experience", i.e. you need to prove you are living as a woman full time before you can change your status and be seen as one in law.

    And it is precisely to keep fetishistic men out of women's spaces that I oppose self ID and think medical intervention is necessary.
    The recent judgement does rather render a GRC meaningless, but I agree there should be some sort of formal medical evaluation.

    In practice it is very difficult to access gender services, and waiting lists are years long on the NHS, so people live in their new gender without any real support.
    Indeed, this was noted in my response to Viewcode (which I don't think anyone read) where I pointed out that the "transmedicalist view" (that one should have a diagnosis and be on active medical treatment to be treated as trans) is complicated by the fact the adult waiting time on the NHS for even a diagnosis in 12 years and full SRS up to a decade after that, so one could come out as a teenager and not be transitioned until middle age.

    Better trans healthcare for all who need it I say! Now, if only there was a party with a leader who knew something about growing breasts...

    Also - To briefly come back to luckyguy - there's no contradiction. I'm literally saying that only those with medical diagnoses should be granted access, which requires medical intervention and living full time as a woman. So your weird guy with latex boobs would not count, as no doctor would sign it off. That's why medical gatekeeping remains important.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 135,165
    edited 8:05PM
    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:

    According to today's Yougov Nowcast projects Kemi would remain LOTO, just to PM Farage not PM Starmer. Sir Keir would have the humiliation of being the first UK PM to lose a general election and become only 3rd party leader, not even LOTO

    Reform 231
    Conservatives 94
    Labour 85
    LD 76
    Green 75
    SNP 45
    PC 18

    https://electionmaps.uk/nowcast/custom

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2038895837372100960?s=20

    That'd be a new GE in short order I suspect.
    Not necessarily, though yes it would require the Tories to give confidence and supply to Farage rather than abstain for him to remain PM given Labour, the LDs and Greens combined would have more MPs than Reform even without adding the SNP and PC
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,443
    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    It’s not just men who like kink

    I once had a very pretty girlfriend who had really involved sexual fantasies surrounding bath time. She demanded that I go to Hamleys and a buy a bath toy which she found particularly arousing

    The toy had a clockwork mechanism meaning it could whirr around the bath-water and go into corners… and indeed into all sorts of places. The toy made her very happy. She called it “Mister Squiddy”

    In daily life she had a very sober and serious job. Humans are gloriously weird
    In my experience the ladies are far kinkier in the bedroom than I have ever been. I think it is because women use this thing called "the imagination" whereas men tend to be much more physical/visual in their choice of stimulus...
    I have a fair amount of experience in this. I’ve got a few kinks - indeed accepting then exploring them was a transformative moment in my life. I was encouraged by a wise female friend who pointed out my obvious tendencies. “Just accept it and find girlfriends that like it the other way round”

    I thank her for that because I became much happier. I had far better sex from then on. Indeed better relationships. I only wish I’d done it sooner

    As for gender differences I suspect men and women are equally kinky given the chance. Why should they not be? The only difference is that women have to be more cautious due to relative physical weakness. But they certainly don’t lack in relative imagination
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,712
    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    kyf_100 said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    The lumping in of creepy fetishistic men with trans people isn't the fault of those sitting on the trans-sceptical side of the argument, it is a feature of a law that allows a person to declare themselves the opposite sex if they so desire. This silly sod with his bizarre uneven fake boobs is exactly the type who could demand his right to enter a ladies' changing room because he is a woman.
    This is not true. In the UK at least (I did quite a bit of research into this for Viewcode's article) you can only change gender markers and thus be considered female if you have a doctor's note and so called "real life experience", i.e. you need to prove you are living as a woman full time before you can change your status and be seen as one in law.

    And it is precisely to keep fetishistic men out of women's spaces that I oppose self ID and think medical intervention is necessary.
    The recent judgement does rather render a GRC meaningless, but I agree there should be some sort of formal medical evaluation.

    In practice it is very difficult to access gender services, and waiting lists are years long on the NHS, so people live in their new gender without any real support.
    Indeed, this was noted in my response to Viewcode (which I don't think anyone read) where I pointed out that the "transmedicalist view" (that one should have a diagnosis and be on active medical treatment to be treated as trans) is complicated by the fact the adult waiting time on the NHS for even a diagnosis in 12 years and full SRS up to a decade after that, so one could come out as a teenager and not be transitioned until middle age.

    Better trans healthcare for all who need it I say! Now, if only there was a party with a leader who knew something about growing breasts...

    Also - To briefly come back to luckyguy - there's no contradiction. I'm literally saying that only those with medical diagnoses should be granted access, which requires medical intervention and living full time as a woman. So your weird guy with latex boobs would not count, as no doctor would sign it off. That's why medical gatekeeping remains important.
    There's also zero evidence that he is exactly the type who could demand his right to enter a ladies' changing room because he is a woman as Lucky tells us.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,839
    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    kyf_100 said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    The lumping in of creepy fetishistic men with trans people isn't the fault of those sitting on the trans-sceptical side of the argument, it is a feature of a law that allows a person to declare themselves the opposite sex if they so desire. This silly sod with his bizarre uneven fake boobs is exactly the type who could demand his right to enter a ladies' changing room because he is a woman.
    This is not true. In the UK at least (I did quite a bit of research into this for Viewcode's article) you can only change gender markers and thus be considered female if you have a doctor's note and so called "real life experience", i.e. you need to prove you are living as a woman full time before you can change your status and be seen as one in law.

    And it is precisely to keep fetishistic men out of women's spaces that I oppose self ID and think medical intervention is necessary.
    The recent judgement does rather render a GRC meaningless, but I agree there should be some sort of formal medical evaluation.

    In practice it is very difficult to access gender services, and waiting lists are years long on the NHS, so people live in their new gender without any real support.
    Indeed, this was noted in my response to Viewcode (which I don't think anyone read) where I pointed out that the "transmedicalist view" (that one should have a diagnosis and be on active medical treatment to be treated as trans) is complicated by the fact the adult waiting time on the NHS for even a diagnosis in 12 years and full SRS up to a decade after that, so one could come out as a teenager and not be transitioned until middle age.

    Better trans healthcare for all who need it I say! Now, if only there was a party with a leader who knew something about growing breasts...

    Also - To briefly come back to luckyguy - there's no contradiction. I'm literally saying that only those with medical diagnoses should be granted access, which requires medical intervention and living full time as a woman. So your weird guy with latex boobs would not count, as no doctor would sign it off. That's why medical gatekeeping remains important.
    There is also the catch 22 of being required to live as the chosen gender for 2 years in order to get a GRC, but how can you do so without access to single sex spaces?
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 1,954
    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    It’s not just men who like kink

    I once had a very pretty girlfriend who had really involved sexual fantasies surrounding bath time. She demanded that I go to Hamleys and a buy a bath toy which she found particularly arousing

    The toy had a clockwork mechanism meaning it could whirr around the bath-water and go into corners… and indeed into all sorts of places. The toy made her very happy. She called it “Mister Squiddy”

    In daily life she had a very sober and serious job. Humans are gloriously weird
    In my experience the ladies are far kinkier in the bedroom than I have ever been. I think it is because women use this thing called "the imagination" whereas men tend to be much more physical/visual in their choice of stimulus...
    I have a fair amount of experience in this. I’ve got a few kinks - indeed accepting then exploring them was a transformative moment in my life. I was encouraged by a wise female friend who pointed out my obvious tendencies. “Just accept it and find girlfriends that like it the other way round”

    I thank her for that because I became much happier. I had far better sex from then on. Indeed better relationships. I only wish I’d done it sooner

    As for gender differences I suspect men and women are equally kinky given the chance. Why should they not be? The only difference is that women have to be more cautious due to relative physical weakness. But they certainly don’t lack in relative imagination
    There is some interesting research ( I forget the source, sorry) that suggests hunter-gatherer societies were far less kinky than modern societies.

    The reason for this isn't certain, but the author suggested that it was because there was less repression of desire, fewer taboos against what we'd now call sexual deviancy, as well as fewer societies where monogamy was encouraged.

    The tentative conclusion is that kink relies on our desires to be taboo-breakers. No real idea if this is true but it's interesting.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,969
    Scott_xP said:

    @cnn.com‬

    A federal judge has blocked President Donald Trump from moving ahead with any further work on a massive new ballroom on the former site of the White House's East Wing.

    He'll never dance in this ballroom and he knows it. Mortality cometh.

  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 5,081
    Foxy said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    kyf_100 said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    The lumping in of creepy fetishistic men with trans people isn't the fault of those sitting on the trans-sceptical side of the argument, it is a feature of a law that allows a person to declare themselves the opposite sex if they so desire. This silly sod with his bizarre uneven fake boobs is exactly the type who could demand his right to enter a ladies' changing room because he is a woman.
    This is not true. In the UK at least (I did quite a bit of research into this for Viewcode's article) you can only change gender markers and thus be considered female if you have a doctor's note and so called "real life experience", i.e. you need to prove you are living as a woman full time before you can change your status and be seen as one in law.

    And it is precisely to keep fetishistic men out of women's spaces that I oppose self ID and think medical intervention is necessary.
    The recent judgement does rather render a GRC meaningless, but I agree there should be some sort of formal medical evaluation.

    In practice it is very difficult to access gender services, and waiting lists are years long on the NHS, so people live in their new gender without any real support.
    Indeed, this was noted in my response to Viewcode (which I don't think anyone read) where I pointed out that the "transmedicalist view" (that one should have a diagnosis and be on active medical treatment to be treated as trans) is complicated by the fact the adult waiting time on the NHS for even a diagnosis in 12 years and full SRS up to a decade after that, so one could come out as a teenager and not be transitioned until middle age.

    Better trans healthcare for all who need it I say! Now, if only there was a party with a leader who knew something about growing breasts...

    Also - To briefly come back to luckyguy - there's no contradiction. I'm literally saying that only those with medical diagnoses should be granted access, which requires medical intervention and living full time as a woman. So your weird guy with latex boobs would not count, as no doctor would sign it off. That's why medical gatekeeping remains important.
    There is also the catch 22 of being required to live as the chosen gender for 2 years in order to get a GRC, but how can you do so without access to single sex spaces?
    Indeed. And it's not about toilets, either. "Prove you're a woman by living as a woman, by the way also you're banned from joining the Women's Institute"...
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 28,120
    edited 8:22PM
    kyf_100 said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    The lumping in of creepy fetishistic men with trans people isn't the fault of those sitting on the trans-sceptical side of the argument, it is a feature of a law that allows a person to declare themselves the opposite sex if they so desire. This silly sod with his bizarre uneven fake boobs is exactly the type who could demand his right to enter a ladies' changing room because he is a woman.
    This is not true. In the UK at least (I did quite a bit of research into this for Viewcode's article) you can only change gender markers and thus be considered female if you have a doctor's note and so called "real life experience", i.e. you need to prove you are living as a woman full time before you can change your status and be seen as one in law.

    And it is precisely to keep fetishistic men out of women's spaces that I oppose self ID and think medical intervention is necessary.
    The article in question

    https://www.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2026/03/22/your-friend-susan/

    I'm not sure about all of this, but a remark from Cyclefree about the unnecessity for genital surgery made me think. With regards to the "doctor's note and so called "real life experience"", that was originally a way to get prescribed hormones, and later post-GRA (ie after 2004) an evidentiary base for being awarded a gender recognition certificate (GRC).

    But "considered female" is a bit less defined than that.

    A GRC enables you to change the sex on your driver's licence and have the original kept secret. But it's always been possible to change your sex and honorific on bank account, driver's licence, electricity bill, etc without a GRC: "mister" and "mrs" and "miss" are honorifics not official titles and after around the 1980s you don't need proof to change them, other than say a deed poll. The concepts of "legal sex" came in after 2004 and - as the EHRC Guidance makes plain - no longer exists post-2025.

    Pro-trans people find it difficult to cope with the fact that it is difficult to distinguish between a creepy fetishistic man with fake boobs and a sincere trans person with prostheses. Gender-critical people find it difficult to cope with the fact that you can distinguish them by their actions. But wherever you draw the line, FWS makes it clear that in British law (I know Malc, I know, but it was the UK SC) the line no longer exists and the two groups are both considered biological males and identical in law.

  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,443
    maxh said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    It’s not just men who like kink

    I once had a very pretty girlfriend who had really involved sexual fantasies surrounding bath time. She demanded that I go to Hamleys and a buy a bath toy which she found particularly arousing

    The toy had a clockwork mechanism meaning it could whirr around the bath-water and go into corners… and indeed into all sorts of places. The toy made her very happy. She called it “Mister Squiddy”

    In daily life she had a very sober and serious job. Humans are gloriously weird
    In my experience the ladies are far kinkier in the bedroom than I have ever been. I think it is because women use this thing called "the imagination" whereas men tend to be much more physical/visual in their choice of stimulus...
    I have a fair amount of experience in this. I’ve got a few kinks - indeed accepting then exploring them was a transformative moment in my life. I was encouraged by a wise female friend who pointed out my obvious tendencies. “Just accept it and find girlfriends that like it the other way round”

    I thank her for that because I became much happier. I had far better sex from then on. Indeed better relationships. I only wish I’d done it sooner

    As for gender differences I suspect men and women are equally kinky given the chance. Why should they not be? The only difference is that women have to be more cautious due to relative physical weakness. But they certainly don’t lack in relative imagination
    There is some interesting research ( I forget the source, sorry) that suggests hunter-gatherer societies were far less kinky than modern societies.

    The reason for this isn't certain, but the author suggested that it was because there was less repression of desire, fewer taboos against what we'd now call sexual deviancy, as well as fewer societies where monogamy was encouraged.

    The tentative conclusion is that kink relies on our desires to be taboo-breakers. No real idea if this is true but it's interesting.
    I’m not very convinced by this. Animals are kinky as fuck

    One of my favourite books of all time is all about kink and “perversity” in the animal world. It’s called Biological Exuberance by Bruce Bagemihl

    Ducks are particularly depraved and dolphins would shock the average Epstein dinner party
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 5,081
    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    It’s not just men who like kink

    I once had a very pretty girlfriend who had really involved sexual fantasies surrounding bath time. She demanded that I go to Hamleys and a buy a bath toy which she found particularly arousing

    The toy had a clockwork mechanism meaning it could whirr around the bath-water and go into corners… and indeed into all sorts of places. The toy made her very happy. She called it “Mister Squiddy”

    In daily life she had a very sober and serious job. Humans are gloriously weird
    In my experience the ladies are far kinkier in the bedroom than I have ever been. I think it is because women use this thing called "the imagination" whereas men tend to be much more physical/visual in their choice of stimulus...
    I have a fair amount of experience in this. I’ve got a few kinks - indeed accepting then exploring them was a transformative moment in my life. I was encouraged by a wise female friend who pointed out my obvious tendencies. “Just accept it and find girlfriends that like it the other way round”

    I thank her for that because I became much happier. I had far better sex from then on. Indeed better relationships. I only wish I’d done it sooner

    As for gender differences I suspect men and women are equally kinky given the chance. Why should they not be? The only difference is that women have to be more cautious due to relative physical weakness. But they certainly don’t lack in relative imagination
    You are probably right, I will admit my total lack of experience - I've often said the only Kinks I have are in my record collection. But this is mostly due to being a bit of a fraidy-cat and a repressed prig and never really experimenting when I was young. And I feel that sex parties are for cool, attractive young things, rather than paunchy middle aged men in ill fitting leather chaps looking slightly out of place. I have mates who are into torture garden and killing kittens and all that, but I wouldn't know where to look, much less begin!
  • isamisam Posts: 43,918
    edited 8:27PM
    I’ve noticed that would be Reform defector Katie Lam never mentions the Conservatives when attacking the govt on social media

    Dot dot dot
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,609
    edited 8:27PM
    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    kyf_100 said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    The lumping in of creepy fetishistic men with trans people isn't the fault of those sitting on the trans-sceptical side of the argument, it is a feature of a law that allows a person to declare themselves the opposite sex if they so desire. This silly sod with his bizarre uneven fake boobs is exactly the type who could demand his right to enter a ladies' changing room because he is a woman.
    This is not true. In the UK at least (I did quite a bit of research into this for Viewcode's article) you can only change gender markers and thus be considered female if you have a doctor's note and so called "real life experience", i.e. you need to prove you are living as a woman full time before you can change your status and be seen as one in law.

    And it is precisely to keep fetishistic men out of women's spaces that I oppose self ID and think medical intervention is necessary.
    The recent judgement does rather render a GRC meaningless, but I agree there should be some sort of formal medical evaluation.

    In practice it is very difficult to access gender services, and waiting lists are years long on the NHS, so people live in their new gender without any real support.
    Indeed, this was noted in my response to Viewcode (which I don't think anyone read) where I pointed out that the "transmedicalist view" (that one should have a diagnosis and be on active medical treatment to be treated as trans) is complicated by the fact the adult waiting time on the NHS for even a diagnosis in 12 years and full SRS up to a decade after that, so one could come out as a teenager and not be transitioned until middle age.

    Better trans healthcare for all who need it I say! Now, if only there was a party with a leader who knew something about growing breasts...

    Also - To briefly come back to luckyguy - there's no contradiction. I'm literally saying that only those with medical diagnoses should be granted access, which requires medical intervention and living full time as a woman. So your weird guy with latex boobs would not count, as no doctor would sign it off. That's why medical gatekeeping remains important.
    There is also the catch 22 of being required to live as the chosen gender for 2 years in order to get a GRC, but how can you do so without access to single sex spaces?
    Indeed. And it's not about toilets, either. "Prove you're a woman by living as a woman, by the way also you're banned from joining the Women's Institute"...
    Am I hallucinating, or didn't the WI allow men (who identify as men) members in the 1990s? I swear it was a thing when I was a teenager. Or maybe it was some other CoE-adjacent womens group?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,273
    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    It’s not just men who like kink

    I once had a very pretty girlfriend who had really involved sexual fantasies surrounding bath time. She demanded that I go to Hamleys and a buy a bath toy which she found particularly arousing

    The toy had a clockwork mechanism meaning it could whirr around the bath-water and go into corners… and indeed into all sorts of places. The toy made her very happy. She called it “Mister Squiddy”

    In daily life she had a very sober and serious job. Humans are gloriously weird
    I used to share a flat with a girl who's "thing" was having the inside of her nose licked. She had a fairly regular rota of boyfriends who also had that as a "thing" (albeit in reverse).

    Humans are indeed a strange bunch.
    She liked a bogey man and bogey men liked (licked) her.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,609

    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    It’s not just men who like kink

    I once had a very pretty girlfriend who had really involved sexual fantasies surrounding bath time. She demanded that I go to Hamleys and a buy a bath toy which she found particularly arousing

    The toy had a clockwork mechanism meaning it could whirr around the bath-water and go into corners… and indeed into all sorts of places. The toy made her very happy. She called it “Mister Squiddy”

    In daily life she had a very sober and serious job. Humans are gloriously weird
    I used to share a flat with a girl who's "thing" was having the inside of her nose licked. She had a fairly regular rota of boyfriends who also had that as a "thing" (albeit in reverse).

    Humans are indeed a strange bunch.
    She liked a bogey man and bogey men liked (licked) her.
    She was a phlegminist.
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 1,954
    Leon said:

    maxh said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    It’s not just men who like kink

    I once had a very pretty girlfriend who had really involved sexual fantasies surrounding bath time. She demanded that I go to Hamleys and a buy a bath toy which she found particularly arousing

    The toy had a clockwork mechanism meaning it could whirr around the bath-water and go into corners… and indeed into all sorts of places. The toy made her very happy. She called it “Mister Squiddy”

    In daily life she had a very sober and serious job. Humans are gloriously weird
    In my experience the ladies are far kinkier in the bedroom than I have ever been. I think it is because women use this thing called "the imagination" whereas men tend to be much more physical/visual in their choice of stimulus...
    I have a fair amount of experience in this. I’ve got a few kinks - indeed accepting then exploring them was a transformative moment in my life. I was encouraged by a wise female friend who pointed out my obvious tendencies. “Just accept it and find girlfriends that like it the other way round”

    I thank her for that because I became much happier. I had far better sex from then on. Indeed better relationships. I only wish I’d done it sooner

    As for gender differences I suspect men and women are equally kinky given the chance. Why should they not be? The only difference is that women have to be more cautious due to relative physical weakness. But they certainly don’t lack in relative imagination
    There is some interesting research ( I forget the source, sorry) that suggests hunter-gatherer societies were far less kinky than modern societies.

    The reason for this isn't certain, but the author suggested that it was because there was less repression of desire, fewer taboos against what we'd now call sexual deviancy, as well as fewer societies where monogamy was encouraged.

    The tentative conclusion is that kink relies on our desires to be taboo-breakers. No real idea if this is true but it's interesting.
    I’m not very convinced by this. Animals are kinky as fuck

    One of my favourite books of all time is all about kink and “perversity” in the animal world. It’s called Biological Exuberance by Bruce Bagemihl

    Ducks are particularly depraved and dolphins would shock the average Epstein dinner party
    I have just done a quick hunt for the research and can't find it, so I shall defer to your knowledge of dolphin depravity.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 28,120
    kyf_100 said:

    ...only those with medical diagnoses should be granted access...

    I'm not being funny, but I'm extremely cynical about the "medical diagnosis" part now. Leaving aside the question of what the failure rate for the diagnosis is and what is the maximum we can accept, there is also the question of "what is it exactly we are diagnosing"? Things like brain sex may or may not be true but doesn't translate to a testable test. Past behavior can be faked. Narratives can be learned and regurgitated.

    If we limit ourselves to "does this person has a penis" or "is this person chemically or physically castrate" then I can do a test for that. But "I am a woman in a man's body"? Am I supposed to use divination? Vibe diagnosis?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,194
    isam said:

    I’ve noticed that would be Reform defector Katie Lam never mentions the Conservatives when attacking the govt on social media

    Dot dot dot

    ***Buffs nails***

    Only last week I tipped her to be the next defector at 12/1

    https://www.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2026/03/25/the-next-defector/
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 5,081
    edited 8:33PM
    viewcode said:

    kyf_100 said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    The lumping in of creepy fetishistic men with trans people isn't the fault of those sitting on the trans-sceptical side of the argument, it is a feature of a law that allows a person to declare themselves the opposite sex if they so desire. This silly sod with his bizarre uneven fake boobs is exactly the type who could demand his right to enter a ladies' changing room because he is a woman.
    This is not true. In the UK at least (I did quite a bit of research into this for Viewcode's article) you can only change gender markers and thus be considered female if you have a doctor's note and so called "real life experience", i.e. you need to prove you are living as a woman full time before you can change your status and be seen as one in law.

    And it is precisely to keep fetishistic men out of women's spaces that I oppose self ID and think medical intervention is necessary.
    The article in question

    https://www.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2026/03/22/your-friend-susan/

    I'm not sure about all of this, but a remark from Cyclefree about the unnecessity for genital surgery made me think. With regards to the "doctor's note and so called "real life experience"", that was originally a way to get prescribed hormones, and later post-GRA (ie after 2004) an evidentiary base for being awarded a gender recognition certificate (GRC).

    But "considered female" is a bit less defined than that.

    A GRC enables you to change the sex on your driver's licence and have the original kept secret. But it's always been possible to change your sex and honorific on bank account, driver's licence, electricity bill, etc without a GRC: "mister" and "mrs" and "miss" are honorifics not official titles and after around the 1980s you don't need proof to change them, other than say a deed poll. The concepts of "legal sex" came in after 2004 and - as the EHRC Guidance makes plain - no longer exists post-2025.

    Pro-trans people find it difficult to cope with the fact that it is difficult to distinguish between a creepy fetishistic man with fake boobs and a sincere trans person with prostheses. Gender-critical people find it difficult to cope with the fact that you can distinguish them by their actions. But wherever you draw the line, FWS makes it clear that in British law (I know Malc, I know, but it was the UK SC) the line no longer exists and the two groups are both considered biological males and identical in law.

    Requirements for changing your gender marker on your government ID - https://www.gov.uk/changing-passport-information/gender

    So, for example, you can prevent the creepy fetishists from joining a gym and insisting on accessing the ladies' changing room by asking for their proof of ID on joining. This is different from penis having/not having (which is not a requirement for a GRC, but that is another debate). But it does keep the fetishists out. Only people living full time as a woman, with a letter from their doctor, get to change their govt ID.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 135,165
    edited 8:37PM
    Projection based on the new Survation Scottish Parliament election poll has the SNP collapsing to just 56 MSPs in May, their lowest total since 2007. Reform official opposition just 1 seat ahead of Labour

    SNP: 56 (-8)
    RFM: 21 (+21)
    LAB: 20 (-2)
    CON: 13 (-18)
    GRN: 11 (+3)
    LDM: 8 (+4)

    Changes w/ 2021.

    https://x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/2039024824303911155?s=20
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,609
    viewcode said:

    kyf_100 said:

    ...only those with medical diagnoses should be granted access...

    I'm not being funny, but I'm extremely cynical about the "medical diagnosis" part now. Leaving aside the question of what the failure rate for the diagnosis is and what is the maximum we can accept, there is also the question of "what is it exactly we are diagnosing"? Things like brain sex may or may not be true but doesn't translate to a testable test. Past behavior can be faked. Narratives can be learned and regurgitated.

    If we limit ourselves to "does this person has a penis" or "is this person chemically or physically castrate" then I can do a test for that. But "I am a woman in a man's body"? Am I supposed to use divination? Vibe diagnosis?
    90% squeaky wheel gets the grease. Those who have the gumption to push and push and possibly pay will get the disgnosis they want.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,041

    isam said:

    I’ve noticed that would be Reform defector Katie Lam never mentions the Conservatives when attacking the govt on social media

    Dot dot dot

    ***Buffs nails***

    Only last week I tipped her to be the next defector at 12/1

    https://www.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2026/03/25/the-next-defector/
    She's not going anywhere, lol
  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,542
    Leon said:

    maxh said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    It’s not just men who like kink

    I once had a very pretty girlfriend who had really involved sexual fantasies surrounding bath time. She demanded that I go to Hamleys and a buy a bath toy which she found particularly arousing

    The toy had a clockwork mechanism meaning it could whirr around the bath-water and go into corners… and indeed into all sorts of places. The toy made her very happy. She called it “Mister Squiddy”

    In daily life she had a very sober and serious job. Humans are gloriously weird
    In my experience the ladies are far kinkier in the bedroom than I have ever been. I think it is because women use this thing called "the imagination" whereas men tend to be much more physical/visual in their choice of stimulus...
    I have a fair amount of experience in this. I’ve got a few kinks - indeed accepting then exploring them was a transformative moment in my life. I was encouraged by a wise female friend who pointed out my obvious tendencies. “Just accept it and find girlfriends that like it the other way round”

    I thank her for that because I became much happier. I had far better sex from then on. Indeed better relationships. I only wish I’d done it sooner

    As for gender differences I suspect men and women are equally kinky given the chance. Why should they not be? The only difference is that women have to be more cautious due to relative physical weakness. But they certainly don’t lack in relative imagination
    There is some interesting research ( I forget the source, sorry) that suggests hunter-gatherer societies were far less kinky than modern societies.

    The reason for this isn't certain, but the author suggested that it was because there was less repression of desire, fewer taboos against what we'd now call sexual deviancy, as well as fewer societies where monogamy was encouraged.

    The tentative conclusion is that kink relies on our desires to be taboo-breakers. No real idea if this is true but it's interesting.
    I’m not very convinced by this. Animals are kinky as fuck

    One of my favourite books of all time is all about kink and “perversity” in the animal world. It’s called Biological Exuberance by Bruce Bagemihl

    Ducks are particularly depraved and dolphins would shock the average Epstein dinner party
    I’m sure hedgehogs like a bit of man on man action. Could have been a weird dream though.

    Dolphins are dirty fuckers however with a nose like that you may as well use it.

    Ducks (mallards especially) are very gang rapey.

    Sloths are massively into BDSM and as for beavers, they certainly love their namesake.
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 5,081
    viewcode said:

    kyf_100 said:

    ...only those with medical diagnoses should be granted access...

    I'm not being funny, but I'm extremely cynical about the "medical diagnosis" part now. Leaving aside the question of what the failure rate for the diagnosis is and what is the maximum we can accept, there is also the question of "what is it exactly we are diagnosing"? Things like brain sex may or may not be true but doesn't translate to a testable test. Past behavior can be faked. Narratives can be learned and regurgitated.

    If we limit ourselves to "does this person has a penis" or "is this person chemically or physically castrate" then I can do a test for that. But "I am a woman in a man's body"? Am I supposed to use divination? Vibe diagnosis?
    People are evaluated by a psychiarist/clinical psychologist (often over a number of sessions) according (in the UK) to specific diagnostic criteria, namely those set out in the ICD-11 under "gender incongruence". This in the UK if I understand it correctly also involves speaking to a friend or family member who knows the person to verify they are living "full time".

    Effectively, it is quite a large gatekeeping step, and as I say, no doctor is going to sign off on Mad Jack McFetishist who wears latex inflatable boobs while watching kink porn, but lives an everyday, straight, cis male existence in all other parts of his life. They would lose their license very quickly.

    It is why, despite trans people criticising this step as gatekeeping, i.e. allowing doctors to decide who is trans enough, I think it's a vital step. As it really does sort out the genuine cases from the fetishists.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,443
    maxh said:

    Leon said:

    maxh said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    This Kristi Noem husband story is quite something

    https://x.com/nypost/status/2039006843763044817?s=61

    It is a magnificent contribution of solidarity to mark Trans Day of Visibility.



    Incidentally we used to have a poster on PB who went by the name @byronic. I wonder if they are one and the same?
    I know you're only joking but I think it's important not to lump creepy fetishistic guys in with trans people, who experience a genuine disconnect between mind and body that only medical intervention can fix.

    Sadly it's often the transphobic, far right men who are most into kinky "trans" porn (all unrealistic tosh aimed squarely at male fetishists), which leads many to believe that trans women are in some way deviant and perverted, when it is perverted blokes that have the problem. If you look at the data, trans porn is, by the way, far more popular in red states in America than Blue.

    The louder the transphobe, the more interesting a peek at their browser history becomes.
    It’s not just men who like kink

    I once had a very pretty girlfriend who had really involved sexual fantasies surrounding bath time. She demanded that I go to Hamleys and a buy a bath toy which she found particularly arousing

    The toy had a clockwork mechanism meaning it could whirr around the bath-water and go into corners… and indeed into all sorts of places. The toy made her very happy. She called it “Mister Squiddy”

    In daily life she had a very sober and serious job. Humans are gloriously weird
    In my experience the ladies are far kinkier in the bedroom than I have ever been. I think it is because women use this thing called "the imagination" whereas men tend to be much more physical/visual in their choice of stimulus...
    I have a fair amount of experience in this. I’ve got a few kinks - indeed accepting then exploring them was a transformative moment in my life. I was encouraged by a wise female friend who pointed out my obvious tendencies. “Just accept it and find girlfriends that like it the other way round”

    I thank her for that because I became much happier. I had far better sex from then on. Indeed better relationships. I only wish I’d done it sooner

    As for gender differences I suspect men and women are equally kinky given the chance. Why should they not be? The only difference is that women have to be more cautious due to relative physical weakness. But they certainly don’t lack in relative imagination
    There is some interesting research ( I forget the source, sorry) that suggests hunter-gatherer societies were far less kinky than modern societies.

    The reason for this isn't certain, but the author suggested that it was because there was less repression of desire, fewer taboos against what we'd now call sexual deviancy, as well as fewer societies where monogamy was encouraged.

    The tentative conclusion is that kink relies on our desires to be taboo-breakers. No real idea if this is true but it's interesting.
    I’m not very convinced by this. Animals are kinky as fuck

    One of my favourite books of all time is all about kink and “perversity” in the animal world. It’s called Biological Exuberance by Bruce Bagemihl

    Ducks are particularly depraved and dolphins would shock the average Epstein dinner party
    I have just done a quick hunt for the research and can't find it, so I shall defer to your knowledge of dolphin depravity.
    Looks like it’s out of print. Which is nuts. It’s a masterpiece

    https://orionmagazine.org/article/homosexuality-nature-animals-mating-biological-exhuberance/

    Try and find a 2nd hand copy. You won’t regret it. At the very least it will give you a lifetime supply of killer animal kink facts, like “wuzzles”

    (A wuzzle is a same sex dolphin orgy where groups of dolphins ride on each other’s dorsal fins giving each other homosexual orgasms for hours)
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,564
    viewcode said:

    kyf_100 said:

    ...only those with medical diagnoses should be granted access...

    I'm not being funny, but I'm extremely cynical about the "medical diagnosis" part now. Leaving aside the question of what the failure rate for the diagnosis is and what is the maximum we can accept, there is also the question of "what is it exactly we are diagnosing"? Things like brain sex may or may not be true but doesn't translate to a testable test. Past behavior can be faked. Narratives can be learned and regurgitated.

    If we limit ourselves to "does this person has a penis" or "is this person chemically or physically castrate" then I can do a test for that. But "I am a woman in a man's body"? Am I supposed to use divination? Vibe diagnosis?
    Behaviour.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,564
    kyf_100 said:

    viewcode said:

    kyf_100 said:

    ...only those with medical diagnoses should be granted access...

    I'm not being funny, but I'm extremely cynical about the "medical diagnosis" part now. Leaving aside the question of what the failure rate for the diagnosis is and what is the maximum we can accept, there is also the question of "what is it exactly we are diagnosing"? Things like brain sex may or may not be true but doesn't translate to a testable test. Past behavior can be faked. Narratives can be learned and regurgitated.

    If we limit ourselves to "does this person has a penis" or "is this person chemically or physically castrate" then I can do a test for that. But "I am a woman in a man's body"? Am I supposed to use divination? Vibe diagnosis?
    People are evaluated by a psychiarist/clinical psychologist (often over a number of sessions) according (in the UK) to specific diagnostic criteria, namely those set out in the ICD-11 under "gender incongruence". This in the UK if I understand it correctly also involves speaking to a friend or family member who knows the person to verify they are living "full time".

    Effectively, it is quite a large gatekeeping step, and as I say, no doctor is going to sign off on Mad Jack McFetishist who wears latex inflatable boobs while watching kink porn, but lives an everyday, straight, cis male existence in all other parts of his life. They would lose their license very quickly.

    It is why, despite trans people criticising this step as gatekeeping, i.e. allowing doctors to decide who is trans enough, I think it's a vital step. As it really does sort out the genuine cases from the fetishists.
    Licence.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,057
    HYUFD said:

    Projection based on the new Survation Scottish Parliament election poll has the SNP collapsing to just 56 MSPs in May, their lowest total since 2007. Reform official opposition just 1 seat ahead of Labour

    SNP: 56 (-8)
    RFM: 21 (+21)
    LAB: 20 (-2)
    CON: 13 (-18)
    GRN: 11 (+3)
    LDM: 8 (+4)

    Changes w/ 2021.

    https://x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/2039024824303911155?s=20

    Still an SNP Green independence government
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,969
    "It almost felt like Jeremy was handing over the reins of the leadership of the left - which is why I felt it was important to bring in some of the lessons learned from Corbynism."


    From Corbyn to Polanski - in and against the state

    https://graceblakeley.substack.com/p/from-corbyn-to-polanski-in-and-against?triedRedirect=true



    Thoughts and prayers for the voters of N Herefordshire.

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,839
    viewcode said:

    kyf_100 said:

    ...only those with medical diagnoses should be granted access...

    I'm not being funny, but I'm extremely cynical about the "medical diagnosis" part now. Leaving aside the question of what the failure rate for the diagnosis is and what is the maximum we can accept, there is also the question of "what is it exactly we are diagnosing"? Things like brain sex may or may not be true but doesn't translate to a testable test. Past behavior can be faked. Narratives can be learned and regurgitated.

    If we limit ourselves to "does this person has a penis" or "is this person chemically or physically castrate" then I can do a test for that. But "I am a woman in a man's body"? Am I supposed to use divination? Vibe diagnosis?
    That is true of a lot of medical diagnoses of course, including Autism, ADHD, and other forms of neuro-diversity, and also a whole bunch of non-medical things like being gay.

  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,041
    Have Reform given up on the shadow cabinet thing?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,739

    stodge said:

    stodge said:

    stodge said:

    Battlebus said:

    Seems it's all over according to the US. I get the feeling that the fog of war is particularly foggy this time round.

    Stocks surge to session highs on optimism that Iran may be ready to end war

    By Isabel Wang

    U.S. stocks were surging to their session highs in afternoon trading on Tuesday on optimism over an unconfirmed report said that Iran president Masoud Pezeshkian may be ready to end the war, but that guarantees are still wanted.
    Pezeshkian claimed all this a fortnight or more ago not long after Khamanei had been killed at the start of the conflict.

    It soon became clear he had little or no power in Iran and the IRGC ignored him completely.

    Yet it seems people are so desperate for even a hint of optimism they will buy on any silly rumour and the sheep all follow as no one wants to be behind the rumour curve.

    Likewise the China-Pakistan initiative which is platitudinous nonsense. The Chinese get 50% or more of their oil from the Gulf so are particularly vulnerable to a prolonged closure of Hormuz.
    Chinese tankers have been allowed to pass.
    Are we then saying Hormuz is closed only to ships going to countries Iran doesn't like and everyone else is getting free passage?

    Are the Chinese ships paying a toll to Tehran?
    https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinese-container-ships-pass-through-strait-hormuz-second-attempt-data-shows-2026-03-30/
    The reports I'm seeing suggest three ships transited the Straits of Hormuz today out of a normal one hundred and forty.

    On the wider politics, the schism between the Trump Administration and Europe seems to be widening. The usual undiplomatic verbosity from the White House notwithstanding, there seems a lack of coherent thinking in the administration over how this ends.

    Could Europe approach Iran directly with a proposal or proposals?

    Yet who in Iran would want to deal with Europe or indeed anyone else when they seem, to use the vernacular "to hold all the cards" in respect of Hormuz and to have paralysed American thinking.
    The main thing the Iranians seem to want is for the US to withdraw its troops from bases in the region. So a separate deal with Europe doesn't really get them what they want, and it reduces the pressure on the US to make a deal to end the conflict.

    The consequence of the schism between Europe and the US seems most likely to find its expression over Russia and Ukraine. The possibility is growing that the US will come to terms with Russia and fully lift sanctions imposed after the Ukraine invasion.
    The irony being that Russia and Iran are besties. (The second irony is that Russia is poor, and getting poorer. So what is the US going to get out of letting Russia in from the cold?)

    But logic doesn't seem to be a big part of current US policy. 
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