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  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321
    eek said:

    DavidL said:

    We have a better fiscal position than France, our economy is growing faster than Germany, we are less indebted than Greece and yet we are having to pay a premium of around 1% on our borrowing. Why is this? It is because the markets have weighed our political class and found them short. They are not responsible, they are not reliable, they fail to plan, they are reluctant to address our real problems in case that should prove unpopular.

    There is a price for electing people who are not up to the task. Right now it’s 1%. Let’s hope it doesn’t get higher.

    Looks at our current political class

    I’m surprised it’s only 1%…
    How many years was Merkel head of the EU's largest economy?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    Prices are up by somewhat over one-third in a month.

    That is considerably more than 'a bit.'
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043
    Cookie said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
    It true though isn't it?

    @Richard_Tyndall has already debunked this nonsense

    Explain why not only Kemi, but the SNP, the Unions, and upto 40 labour mps want our own North Sea fields developed
    As you know and ignored yesterday

    She's jumped on a bandwagon.

    She doesn't know why she's jumped on the bandwagon.

    She's following unions, local mps and the snp who complained long and hard from 2010 to 2024 about Tory cuts to drilling, cuts she supported.
    Fake news

    BBC News - Tories pledge to get 'all our oil and gas out of the North Sea' - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp890n51684o?app-referrer=deep-link
    Locking it under the seabed is a crass thing to do.

    But it represents a tiny amount of the energy that we could unlock from our tides. These oil fields will be producing nothing in 100 years. The tidal power will still be producing exactly the same in a million years. (More, because the turbines will get increasingly efficient over time.)
    I am a strong supporter of tidal and of course there are plans for a huge tidal scheme here in Llandudno

    As is the case, it is not either or but we need everything and over the next 20 years our own oil and gas

    Badenoch announced this policy in September 2025 and it is now very much main stream politics not least because of the Iran war
    I'm an uninformed enthusiast for tidal power. I am quite excited by the potential for Morecambe Bay - a scheme there could supply in the order of 2% of British electricity needs amd enable a new and more direct road and rail link from mainland Lancashire to Barrow and West Cumbria. Electricity generation AND transport planning. Giddying.
    But as I say, I am pretty uninformed on this so don't attach any weight to this.
    It seems cost is the main factor but tidal will be with us long after oil and gas
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,996
    edited 6:02PM
    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,897
    ydoethur said:

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    Prices are up by somewhat over one-third in a month.

    That is considerably more than 'a bit.'
    And they may end up doubling.

    Market will still clear though. Fundamentally, there isn't an oil shortage.
  • eekeek Posts: 33,120

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    20% of the worlds oil supply is currently no longer available.

    The world can’t cut demand by 20% quickly enough for this to not be very, very, very painful
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,897

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    No-one is going to "run out".

    I know revelling in hyberbole and drama is more fun, but it doesn't make it true.
  • Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Cost of full tank of petrol up £10.55 since the start of the war

    Cost of full tank of diesel up £21.35 since the start of the war

    These costs are going to filter through to so much in our economy and nobody knows how much higher they will go

    Source?
    Model of Car?
    Location and Filling Station?
    The RAC provided the figures and ask anybody who drives a car how much more they are paying

    No doubt you know more than the experts again, as is the case in news you do not like

    No need to be nasty
    Irony meters will be running out quicker than fuel at this rate.

  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,377

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    No-one is going to "run out".

    I know revelling in hyberbole and drama is more fun, but it doesn't make it true.
    Third world countries reliant on Gulf imports that can't afford higher prices might.

    We won't.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,996

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    No-one is going to "run out".

    I know revelling in hyberbole and drama is more fun, but it doesn't make it true.
    The gap in cargos is there.

    It means even if they start sailing *now* they will run out.

  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 598
    Agree with the header, safest side of this bet is to stake money on 'NO'

    Nobel Prizes are specifically reserved for those Ayrshire people who have contributed significant benefits to society, like John Boyd Orr and Alexander Fleming

    The more I hear it, the more I think Sabrina Carpenters song 'Manchild' was written for the Whitehouse incumbent
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,897

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    No-one is going to "run out".

    I know revelling in hyberbole and drama is more fun, but it doesn't make it true.
    The gap in cargos is there.

    It means even if they start sailing *now* they will run out.

    They won't run out.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,897

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    No-one is going to "run out".

    I know revelling in hyberbole and drama is more fun, but it doesn't make it true.
    Third world countries reliant on Gulf imports that can't afford higher prices might.

    We won't.
    Demand and supply will recalibrate again at a new price, and the supply chain will react.

    The market will still clear.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,529
    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,897

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    Polanski is left-wing Farage.
  • eekeek Posts: 33,120

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    No-one is going to "run out".

    I know revelling in hyberbole and drama is more fun, but it doesn't make it true.
    The gap in cargos is there.

    It means even if they start sailing *now* they will run out.

    Let’s post this again from Earlier

    https://substack.com/@snarkygherkin/note/c-234844710

    These ships are not fast - the last ship left 28 days ago and still has a few more days left on the journey.

    So if it takes 28 days for a ship to travel and you have 21 days of supply you’ve got at least 1 week without oil possibly more
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,783

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    A lot of profiteering

    A lot of garages have Monday and Friday deliveries in SW price goes up those mornings

    That petrol has been sat in distribution tanks for weeks or months.

  • eekeek Posts: 33,120
    Brixian59 said:

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    A lot of profiteering

    A lot of garages have Monday and Friday deliveries in SW price goes up those mornings

    That petrol has been sat in distribution tanks for weeks or months.

    And as I explained a long time ago - charging the replacement price of goods to your customer makes perfect rational sense.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,996
    Brixian59 said:

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    A lot of profiteering

    A lot of garages have Monday and Friday deliveries in SW price goes up those mornings

    That petrol has been sat in distribution tanks for weeks or months.

    Oh, a Stock Profit Idiot.

    They have to keep buying product all the way up the supply chain - which is why prices rise *now*.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,377
    Brixian59 said:

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    A lot of profiteering

    A lot of garages have Monday and Friday deliveries in SW price goes up those mornings

    That petrol has been sat in distribution tanks for weeks or months.

    That is not profiteering, if the replacement stock price is higher, then they need to charge more to afford replacement stock.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,996
    eek said:

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    No-one is going to "run out".

    I know revelling in hyberbole and drama is more fun, but it doesn't make it true.
    The gap in cargos is there.

    It means even if they start sailing *now* they will run out.

    Let’s post this again from Earlier

    https://substack.com/@snarkygherkin/note/c-234844710

    These ships are not fast - the last ship left 28 days ago and still has a few more days left on the journey.

    So if it takes 28 days for a ship to travel and you have 21 days of supply you’ve got at least 1 week without oil possibly more
    Yup.

    And no, you can't just get someone to magic up 250Kt ofoil in tanker overnight.

    There is more demand than supply right now. And the rate of change of supply is sloooooooow - compared to the size of the dip in delivered product.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    Polanski is left-wing Farage.
    No he's not, he's had one good idea.
  • eekeek Posts: 33,120

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    That’s not good enough - firing ofsted into the sun is the minimum @ydoethur would accept. Even then I don’t think it’s enough
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043
    Brixian59 said:

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    A lot of profiteering

    A lot of garages have Monday and Friday deliveries in SW price goes up those mornings

    That petrol has been sat in distribution tanks for weeks or months.

    Provide a link and evidence for your debunked claim of profiteering

    Another fake news story
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,822

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    No-one is going to "run out".

    I know revelling in hyberbole and drama is more fun, but it doesn't make it true.
    Sainsbury in Oadby has...
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 135,132

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    What will he replace it with? How will schools and teachers performance be assessed instead?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,996
    eek said:

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    That’s not good enough - firing ofsted into the sun is the minimum @ydoethur would accept. Even then I don’t think it’s enough
    Fire them into the sun? Nonsense.

    The plan is for the entire DfE to participate in the UK human landing on the Sun, as part of the expanded UK space program.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321
    eek said:

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    That’s not good enough - firing ofsted into the sun is the minimum @ydoethur would accept. Even then I don’t think it’s enough
    I don't want OFSTED fired into the sun, I've got several friends who work in it.

    I want it abolished because its credibility is more comprehensively fucked than a blonde that's been in Boris Johnson's presence for more than 30 seconds, and I honestly can't see how it recovers. At least with Woodhead the mad shit was embarrassing but ultimately mostly futile. Under Spielman it's had catastrophic real-world consequences that have impacted really negatively on the education of children and the performance of the sector.

    She should be fired into the heart of the sun, along with Nicky Morgan for appointing her and Christopher Wormald, Gavin Williamson, Gillian Keegan and Susan Acland-Hood for playing along with her insanity for their own reasons. But not OFSTED as a whole. Abolishing it and replacing it with several properly constituted inspection boards for its different functions led by experienced practitioners rather than arrogant and not very bright political hacks would be adequate.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,497
    edited 6:24PM

    Brixian59 said:

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    A lot of profiteering

    A lot of garages have Monday and Friday deliveries in SW price goes up those mornings

    That petrol has been sat in distribution tanks for weeks or months.

    Provide a link and evidence for your debunked claim of profiteering

    Another fake news story
    I can't provide proof of profiteering.
    However, it's a pretty safe bet that when the current crisis is over, prices don't come down as quickly as they went up. 'Twas ever thus.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321
    edited 6:25PM
    HYUFD said:

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    What will he replace it with? How will schools and teachers performance be assessed instead?
    How about a national board of school inspectors that is (a) genuinely independent of the DfE (which OFSTED isn't any longer) and (b) staffed by people who know what thye're talking about rather than failed investment fund managers?

    Plus separate inspectorates for social care, nurseries, possibly even separating primary and secondary.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,996

    Brixian59 said:

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    A lot of profiteering

    A lot of garages have Monday and Friday deliveries in SW price goes up those mornings

    That petrol has been sat in distribution tanks for weeks or months.

    Provide a link and evidence for your debunked claim of profiteering

    Another fake news story
    I can't provide proof of proiteering.
    However, it's a pretty safe bet that when the current crisis is over, prices don't come down as quickly as they went up. 'Twas ever thus.
    It used to be that after every price shock, MPs would demand a report on Stock Profits. Each time, it came back with

    1) Stock profits don't exist
    2) Prices went up and down with the market prices, pretty much in step.

    They'd read the report, then file it as Not Politically Useful.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,379
    Evening all :)

    At my local Tesco's, petrol up a further 2p and diesel up 3p to 172.9p per litre.

    All pumps stocked and no queuing.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321

    Brixian59 said:

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    A lot of profiteering

    A lot of garages have Monday and Friday deliveries in SW price goes up those mornings

    That petrol has been sat in distribution tanks for weeks or months.

    Provide a link and evidence for your debunked claim of profiteering

    Another fake news story
    I can't provide proof of profiteering.
    However, it's a pretty safe bet that when the current crisis is over, prices don't come down as quickly as they went up. 'Twas ever thus.
    The slight drawback of the price comparison website (which is a great idea in theory) is it allows petrol stations to monitor and match prices in the local area, rather than undercutting them.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043

    Brixian59 said:

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    A lot of profiteering

    A lot of garages have Monday and Friday deliveries in SW price goes up those mornings

    That petrol has been sat in distribution tanks for weeks or months.

    Provide a link and evidence for your debunked claim of profiteering

    Another fake news story
    I can't provide proof of profiteering.
    However, it's a pretty safe bet that when the current crisis is over, prices don't come down as quickly as they went up. 'Twas ever thus.
    Then do not make false allegations

    These allegations have consquences not least for those working in the filling stations who face unfair abuse
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,996
    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    What will he replace it with? How will schools and teachers performance be assessed instead?
    How about a national board of school inspectors that is (a) genuinely independent of the DfE (which OFSTED isn't any longer) and (b) staffed by people who know what thye're talking about rather than failed investment fund managers?

    Plus separate inspectorates for social care, nurseries, possibly even separating primary and secondary.
    That's crazy talk. You can't ave things done be people who know what they are doing. Only Properly Generalist people can run things Properly.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 135,132
    How do you feel about alternative hot cross bun flavours, which this year have included triple chocolate, lemon curd and tiramisu?

    Prefer traditional buns: 45%
    Prefer non-traditional buns: 8%
    Not bothered either way: 28%

    Do not like hot cross buns: 15%
    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2038649564090057174?s=20
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,043
    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    What will he replace it with? How will schools and teachers performance be assessed instead?
    How about a national board of school inspectors that is (a) genuinely independent of the DfE (which OFSTED isn't any longer) and (b) staffed by people who know what thye're talking about rather than failed investment fund managers?

    Plus separate inspectorates for social care, nurseries, possibly even separating primary and secondary.
    Highlights the key feature of Polanski. I've got zero reason to think that his thoughts on Ofsted go any further than "teachers will like me if I promise to abolish Ofsted". That's the echo of Nigel, and the distant echo of Boris.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,862
    Foxy said:

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    No-one is going to "run out".

    I know revelling in hyberbole and drama is more fun, but it doesn't make it true.
    Sainsbury in Oadby has...
    So has Tesco in Barnes
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,497
    ydoethur said:

    eek said:

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    That’s not good enough - firing ofsted into the sun is the minimum @ydoethur would accept. Even then I don’t think it’s enough
    I don't want OFSTED fired into the sun, I've got several friends who work in it.

    I want it abolished because its credibility is more comprehensively fucked than a blonde that's been in Boris Johnson's presence for more than 30 seconds, and I honestly can't see how it recovers. At least with Woodhead the mad shit was embarrassing but ultimately mostly futile. Under Spielman it's had catastrophic real-world consequences that have impacted really negatively on the education of children and the performance of the sector.

    She should be fired into the heart of the sun, along with Nicky Morgan for appointing her and Christopher Wormald, Gavin Williamson, Gillian Keegan and Susan Acland-Hood for playing along with her insanity for their own reasons. But not OFSTED as a whole. Abolishing it and replacing it with several properly constituted inspection boards for its different functions led by experienced practitioners rather than arrogant and not very bright political hacks would be adequate.
    What do you think of the current Chief Inspector? I'm a bit out of the loop now, but rumour has it he's not well-regarded internally. He's been in post over two years now, and I'll bet most people haven't a clue who he is (Martyn Oliver). Not sure whether having such a low profile is good or bad.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 135,132
    49% of voters think Starmer is managing the UK relationship with Trump badly, including 83% of Reform voters.

    35% think he is handling it well, including 59% of Labour voters
    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2038642541365457119?s=20
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,822
    HYUFD said:

    How do you feel about alternative hot cross bun flavours, which this year have included triple chocolate, lemon curd and tiramisu?

    Prefer traditional buns: 45%
    Prefer non-traditional buns: 8%
    Not bothered either way: 28%

    Do not like hot cross buns: 15%
    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2038649564090057174?s=20

    I don't like the chocolate ones, especially as they melt in the toaster.

    The Co-op apple crumble ones are nice.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,529
    https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2038682630833447218

    Trump posts a 1987 interview segment in which he called for the US to seize Iranian oil infrastructure.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,435

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
    It true though isn't it?

    @Richard_Tyndall has already debunked this nonsense

    Explain why not only Kemi, but the SNP, the Unions, and upto 40 labour mps want our own North Sea fields developed
    @Richard_Tyndall made a post earlier that was very measured and generally critical of both Conservatives and Labour for his take on North Sea oil policy.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,497

    Brixian59 said:

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    A lot of profiteering

    A lot of garages have Monday and Friday deliveries in SW price goes up those mornings

    That petrol has been sat in distribution tanks for weeks or months.

    Provide a link and evidence for your debunked claim of profiteering

    Another fake news story
    I can't provide proof of profiteering.
    However, it's a pretty safe bet that when the current crisis is over, prices don't come down as quickly as they went up. 'Twas ever thus.
    Then do not make false allegations

    These allegations have consquences not least for those working in the filling stations who face unfair abuse
    Excuse me? I didn't make any allegations, false or otherwise.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043

    Brixian59 said:

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    A lot of profiteering

    A lot of garages have Monday and Friday deliveries in SW price goes up those mornings

    That petrol has been sat in distribution tanks for weeks or months.

    Provide a link and evidence for your debunked claim of profiteering

    Another fake news story
    I can't provide proof of profiteering.
    However, it's a pretty safe bet that when the current crisis is over, prices don't come down as quickly as they went up. 'Twas ever thus.
    Then do not make false allegations

    These allegations have consquences not least for those working in the filling stations who face unfair abuse
    Excuse me? I didn't make any allegations, false or otherwise.
    My apologies

    You replied to my post to @Brixian59 and I misread it as his response
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,550

    eek said:

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    That’s not good enough - firing ofsted into the sun is the minimum @ydoethur would accept. Even then I don’t think it’s enough
    Fire them into the sun? Nonsense.

    The plan is for the entire DfE to participate in the UK human landing on the Sun, as part of the expanded UK space program.
    Programme.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,460
    HYUFD said:

    49% of voters think Starmer is managing the UK relationship with Trump badly, including 83% of Reform voters.

    35% think he is handling it well, including 59% of Labour voters
    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2038642541365457119?s=20

    Not sure why they bother with this poll question unless they ask a further question as to why people think it’s good or bad .

    Some people want Starmer to tell Trump to get stuffed !
    Some want Starmer to have been more involved .
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,737
    HYUFD said:

    49% of voters think Starmer is managing the UK relationship with Trump badly, including 83% of Reform voters.

    35% think he is handling it well, including 59% of Labour voters
    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2038642541365457119?s=20

    Did they ask if Trump is managing the US relationship with Starmer badly?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,529

    HYUFD said:

    49% of voters think Starmer is managing the UK relationship with Trump badly, including 83% of Reform voters.

    35% think he is handling it well, including 59% of Labour voters
    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2038642541365457119?s=20

    Did they ask if Trump is managing the US relationship with Starmer badly?
    What would be the point of asking UK voters that?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
    It true though isn't it?

    @Richard_Tyndall has already debunked this nonsense

    Explain why not only Kemi, but the SNP, the Unions, and upto 40 labour mps want our own North Sea fields developed
    @Richard_Tyndall made a post earlier that was very measured and generally critical of both Conservatives and Labour for his take on North Sea oil policy.
    But not on Kemi's call to open the north sea now
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,910
    "The market always clears" is true in the abstract, and in the long-term, but a large, sustained supply shock necessitates demand destruction in the short-term given the lead time for new sources of supply.

    You can also have genuine local supply shortages where there is no price. If i want to buy an original Picasso, there is always a price for it. But there's not a price for it if I want to buy and receive it on a Monday evening in Coventry.

    If the war drags on I think we'll start to see rationing of fuel in certain countries or industry. Airlines cancelling flights being an obvious example that's more likely to happen here.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,435
    HYUFD said:

    49% of voters think Starmer is managing the UK relationship with Trump badly, including 83% of Reform voters.

    35% think he is handling it well, including 59% of Labour voters
    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2038642541365457119?s=20

    I suspect those 83% of Reform voters believe he is too hard on Trump, every other voter believes he is behaving like Trump's b****.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321
    edited 6:44PM

    ydoethur said:

    eek said:

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    That’s not good enough - firing ofsted into the sun is the minimum @ydoethur would accept. Even then I don’t think it’s enough
    I don't want OFSTED fired into the sun, I've got several friends who work in it.

    I want it abolished because its credibility is more comprehensively fucked than a blonde that's been in Boris Johnson's presence for more than 30 seconds, and I honestly can't see how it recovers. At least with Woodhead the mad shit was embarrassing but ultimately mostly futile. Under Spielman it's had catastrophic real-world consequences that have impacted really negatively on the education of children and the performance of the sector.

    She should be fired into the heart of the sun, along with Nicky Morgan for appointing her and Christopher Wormald, Gavin Williamson, Gillian Keegan and Susan Acland-Hood for playing along with her insanity for their own reasons. But not OFSTED as a whole. Abolishing it and replacing it with several properly constituted inspection boards for its different functions led by experienced practitioners rather than arrogant and not very bright political hacks would be adequate.
    What do you think of the current Chief Inspector? I'm a bit out of the loop now, but rumour has it he's not well-regarded internally. He's been in post over two years now, and I'll bet most people haven't a clue who he is (Martyn Oliver). Not sure whether having such a low profile is good or bad.
    First of all, I feel sorry for him. He has been doubly lumbered, first by following Spielman who has trashed the whole place, then by having to take over the new framework which is essentially political (as the old one was, but in the opposite way) and thirdly by the changes to inspection reports which to put it mildly have been a fiasco.

    None of those are really his fault, but he comes across as a bit complacent about the scale of the challenge he faces, and I think that is partly because he has no experience of inspections except as a subject. The irony is that as a new broom from the outside he could have been an inspired appointment, especially since by all accounts he does not suffer fools gladly and was one of Spielman's fiercest critics. And I can imagine that would make him unpopular with the existing staff.

    But he is facing a very tough situation and I think he's not going to be able to deal with it. That should not necessarily be a reflection on him because as I said I don't think anyone could have salvaged the utter disaster Spielman wrought, particularly with her still shooting her stupid fat mouth off in the Lords. But inevitably it will.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,737

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    Polanski is left-wing Farage.
    Both are smug so-and-so's.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043
    edited 6:46PM

    Brixian59 said:

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    A lot of profiteering

    A lot of garages have Monday and Friday deliveries in SW price goes up those mornings

    That petrol has been sat in distribution tanks for weeks or months.

    Provide a link and evidence for your debunked claim of profiteering

    Another fake news story
    I can't provide proof of profiteering.
    However, it's a pretty safe bet that when the current crisis is over, prices don't come down as quickly as they went up. 'Twas ever thus.
    Then do not make false allegations

    These allegations have consquences not least for those working in the filling stations who face unfair abuse
    Excuse me? I didn't make any allegations, false or otherwise.
    I have apologised to you as I was replying to @Brixian59
  • Wulfrun_PhilWulfrun_Phil Posts: 4,971
    edited 6:44PM

    Brixian59 said:

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    A lot of profiteering

    A lot of garages have Monday and Friday deliveries in SW price goes up those mornings

    That petrol has been sat in distribution tanks for weeks or months.

    Provide a link and evidence for your debunked claim of profiteering

    Another fake news story
    I can't provide proof of profiteering.
    However, it's a pretty safe bet that when the current crisis is over, prices don't come down as quickly as they went up. 'Twas ever thus.
    Clearly some are at it. Here's my straw poll from today's 150 mile trip.

    Motorway services normally charge prices that are way off the scale compared to anywhere else. But what shocked me today was that the 190p per litre for diesel I saw on the M5 was only 5p to 7p more than I saw at a slew of other stand alone service stations on main roads. The fact that the likes of Shell and BP have hiked prices so close to those on the motorway does point them not holding back. Meanwhile the local supermarkets are keeping a lid on things (a bit), but running out of diesel as a consequence. Managed to fill up at 169p diesel at Sainsburys here but half the pumps were out.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,460
    edited 6:45PM
    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321
    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Sounds like a very slippery situation.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 28,107
    isam said:

    Badenoch really needs to say something on renewables. She’s coming across a bit climate denier

    PMQs last week

    "Badenoch says the UK "can have renewables and oil and gas", and that Starmer "loves to hide behind legal processes"."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c8jk9l4x3evt
    I hate to say it, but when she's right, she's right...
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,980
    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Wouldn’t donors be more inclined to help out with photo ops like that?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,435
    ydoethur said:

    eek said:

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    That’s not good enough - firing ofsted into the sun is the minimum @ydoethur would accept. Even then I don’t think it’s enough
    I don't want OFSTED fired into the sun, I've got several friends who work in it.

    I want it abolished because its credibility is more comprehensively fucked than a blonde that's been in Boris Johnson's presence for more than 30 seconds, and I honestly can't see how it recovers. At least with Woodhead the mad shit was embarrassing but ultimately mostly futile. Under Spielman it's had catastrophic real-world consequences that have impacted really negatively on the education of children and the performance of the sector.

    She should be fired into the heart of the sun, along with Nicky Morgan for appointing her and Christopher Wormald, Gavin Williamson, Gillian Keegan and Susan Acland-Hood for playing along with her insanity for their own reasons. But not OFSTED as a whole. Abolishing it and replacing it with several properly constituted inspection boards for its different functions led by experienced practitioners rather than arrogant and not very bright political hacks would be adequate.
    Wasn't Dame Amanda rewarded with a Conservative peerage for her services to education?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,529
    Good news! CPAC is coming to Britain

    https://x.com/mschlapp/status/2038637384129024317

    Former British PM Liz Truss joins me to announce the dates of CPAC Great Britain! 🇬🇧
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321

    ydoethur said:

    eek said:

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    That’s not good enough - firing ofsted into the sun is the minimum @ydoethur would accept. Even then I don’t think it’s enough
    I don't want OFSTED fired into the sun, I've got several friends who work in it.

    I want it abolished because its credibility is more comprehensively fucked than a blonde that's been in Boris Johnson's presence for more than 30 seconds, and I honestly can't see how it recovers. At least with Woodhead the mad shit was embarrassing but ultimately mostly futile. Under Spielman it's had catastrophic real-world consequences that have impacted really negatively on the education of children and the performance of the sector.

    She should be fired into the heart of the sun, along with Nicky Morgan for appointing her and Christopher Wormald, Gavin Williamson, Gillian Keegan and Susan Acland-Hood for playing along with her insanity for their own reasons. But not OFSTED as a whole. Abolishing it and replacing it with several properly constituted inspection boards for its different functions led by experienced practitioners rather than arrogant and not very bright political hacks would be adequate.
    Wasn't Dame Amanda rewarded with a Conservative peerage for her services to education?
    For her services to forced academisation in line with Conservative policy.

    I'm not altogether sure this has been a service to education.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,737

    HYUFD said:

    49% of voters think Starmer is managing the UK relationship with Trump badly, including 83% of Reform voters.

    35% think he is handling it well, including 59% of Labour voters
    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2038642541365457119?s=20

    Did they ask if Trump is managing the US relationship with Starmer badly?
    What would be the point of asking UK voters that?
    It would be interesting to see how many have Trump Denial Syndrome.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,497
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    eek said:

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    That’s not good enough - firing ofsted into the sun is the minimum @ydoethur would accept. Even then I don’t think it’s enough
    I don't want OFSTED fired into the sun, I've got several friends who work in it.

    I want it abolished because its credibility is more comprehensively fucked than a blonde that's been in Boris Johnson's presence for more than 30 seconds, and I honestly can't see how it recovers. At least with Woodhead the mad shit was embarrassing but ultimately mostly futile. Under Spielman it's had catastrophic real-world consequences that have impacted really negatively on the education of children and the performance of the sector.

    She should be fired into the heart of the sun, along with Nicky Morgan for appointing her and Christopher Wormald, Gavin Williamson, Gillian Keegan and Susan Acland-Hood for playing along with her insanity for their own reasons. But not OFSTED as a whole. Abolishing it and replacing it with several properly constituted inspection boards for its different functions led by experienced practitioners rather than arrogant and not very bright political hacks would be adequate.
    What do you think of the current Chief Inspector? I'm a bit out of the loop now, but rumour has it he's not well-regarded internally. He's been in post over two years now, and I'll bet most people haven't a clue who he is (Martyn Oliver). Not sure whether having such a low profile is good or bad.
    First of all, I feel sorry for him. He has been doubly lumbered, first by following Spielman who has trashed the whole place, then by having to take over the new framework which is essentially political (as the old one was, but in the opposite way) and thirdly by the changes to inspection reports which to put it mildly have been a fiasco.

    None of those are really his fault, but he comes across as a bit complacent about the scale of the challenge he faces, and I think that is partly because he has no experience of inspections except as a subject. The irony is that as a new broom from the outside he could have been an inspired appointment, especially since by all accounts he does not suffer fools gladly and was one of Spielman's fiercest critics. And I can imagine that would make him unpopular with the existing staff.

    But he is facing a very tough situation and I think he's not going to be able to deal with it. That should not necessarily be a reflection on him because as I said I don't think anyone could have salvaged the utter disaster Spielman wrought, particularly with her still shooting her stupid fat mouth off in the Lords. But inevitably it will.
    Thanks. Just one quibble - staff (HMI) were glad Spielman went, so Oliver being a critic of hers was more likely to make him popular with them rather than unpopular. But I agree with the rest - in particular, the 'new' inspection reports are shockingly bad. I didn't think they could get much worse than the previous iteration, but somehow they've managed it.
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,395
    Trump now looking to Arab nations to bail out his lunacy

    ‘ BREAKING: President Trump is interested in calling on Arab countries to "pay for the cost of the Iran War," per White House officials.

    President Trump will soon have more to say on the topic, according to the White House.’

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2038686830631981284?s=61
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,460

    Good news! CPAC is coming to Britain

    https://x.com/mschlapp/status/2038637384129024317

    Former British PM Liz Truss joins me to announce the dates of CPAC Great Britain! 🇬🇧

    I can hardly wait !

    A bunch of nut jobs with the deranged Truss as the headline act !
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 135,132
    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,976

    Good news! CPAC is coming to Britain

    https://x.com/mschlapp/status/2038637384129024317

    Former British PM Liz Truss joins me to announce the dates of CPAC Great Britain! 🇬🇧

    Ignore it...
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,435

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
    It true though isn't it?

    @Richard_Tyndall has already debunked this nonsense

    Explain why not only Kemi, but the SNP, the Unions, and upto 40 labour mps want our own North Sea fields developed
    @Richard_Tyndall made a post earlier that was very measured and generally critical of both Conservatives and Labour for his take on North Sea oil policy.
    But not on Kemi's call to open the north sea now
    But he did make the point that any affirmative action now would be for five years in the future and not now, which is not what disingenuous chancers are claiming.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,460
    Taz said:

    Trump now looking to Arab nations to bail out his lunacy

    ‘ BREAKING: President Trump is interested in calling on Arab countries to "pay for the cost of the Iran War," per White House officials.

    President Trump will soon have more to say on the topic, according to the White House.’

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2038686830631981284?s=61

    So he wants them to pay for all the economic damage done to their countries because of his stupid war .

    What’s Arabic for Trump go fxck yourself !
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,435
    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,976

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    Polanski is left-wing Farage.
    Both are smug so-and-so's.
    Both woud be horrific PMs.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,976

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Except, they have been saying for many months that Miliband was completely wrong on this policy.

    The opportunists are in Labour.
  • eekeek Posts: 33,120
    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    Lead time for drilling for oil 3+ years
    Time it would take to build pipelines to divert away from the Straits - 2 years

    Again we probably need to drill for oil but don't use the Gulf as an excuse...
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
    It true though isn't it?

    @Richard_Tyndall has already debunked this nonsense

    Explain why not only Kemi, but the SNP, the Unions, and upto 40 labour mps want our own North Sea fields developed
    @Richard_Tyndall made a post earlier that was very measured and generally critical of both Conservatives and Labour for his take on North Sea oil policy.
    But not on Kemi's call to open the north sea now
    But he did make the point that any affirmative action now would be for five years in the future and not now, which is not what disingenuous chancers are claiming.
    She is winning the argument though
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,804

    HYUFD said:

    49% of voters think Starmer is managing the UK relationship with Trump badly, including 83% of Reform voters.

    35% think he is handling it well, including 59% of Labour voters
    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2038642541365457119?s=20

    Did they ask if Trump is managing the US relationship with Starmer badly?
    What would be the point of asking UK voters that?
    It would be interesting to see how many have Trump Denial Syndrome.
    As with the almost as damaging fact of climate change it's tempting to just pretend the Trump presidency doesn't exist. But you have to resist that. It's weak.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,737
    nico67 said:

    Taz said:

    Trump now looking to Arab nations to bail out his lunacy

    ‘ BREAKING: President Trump is interested in calling on Arab countries to "pay for the cost of the Iran War," per White House officials.

    President Trump will soon have more to say on the topic, according to the White House.’

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2038686830631981284?s=61

    So he wants them to pay for all the economic damage done to their countries because of his stupid war .

    What’s Arabic for Trump go fxck yourself !
    Not sure, but, with apologies to the Ukrainian forces on Snake Island:

    "American president, go fuck yourself!"
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,379

    Good news! CPAC is coming to Britain

    https://x.com/mschlapp/status/2038637384129024317

    Former British PM Liz Truss joins me to announce the dates of CPAC Great Britain! 🇬🇧

    On the basis one would presumably have to pay to listen to the former Prime Minister, I was musing on which former Prime Minister(s) I would pay to hear and how much I would pay:

    Major; Yes (£10)
    Blair: No
    Brown: Yes (50p)
    Cameron: Yes (£2)
    May: Yes (I'm most interested in hearing her thoughts) (£20)
    Johnson: No
    Truss: No
    Sunak: Yes (£5)

    I suspect this will not be a universally-held view.
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,910
    nico67 said:

    Taz said:

    Trump now looking to Arab nations to bail out his lunacy

    ‘ BREAKING: President Trump is interested in calling on Arab countries to "pay for the cost of the Iran War," per White House officials.

    President Trump will soon have more to say on the topic, according to the White House.’

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2038686830631981284?s=61

    So he wants them to pay for all the economic damage done to their countries because of his stupid war .

    What’s Arabic for Trump go fxck yourself !
    What's Arabic for "Dear President Xi..."
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,435

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Except, they have been saying for many months that Miliband was completely wrong on this policy.

    The opportunists are in Labour.
    They are selling the notion that licencing new fields for the future would resolve the lack of fuel at the pumps.

    One could also remind Kemi that she was foursquare behind Trump's disastrous adventure in the Gulf. Without Trump's disastrous adventure in the Gulf there would be fuel at the pumps.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Nothing disingenuous to adapting policy for the good of the nation by increasing tax receipts by 25 billion over10 years

    And what about the 40 labour mps backing the proposals
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,986
    edited 7:04PM
    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    It does probably make sense to make some adjustments to the permit and tax system to get production back up and running.

    But the illogical, binary nature of the arguments is just as bad on the drill baby drill side as it is from Just Stop Oil. The idea that the long term solution to our dependence on volatile fossil fuel supply is to cut investment in renewables, which is not just a Reform policy but now seemingly a Tory one too, is downright bizarre.

    You might as well tell someone who’s being bankrupted by their heroin addiction that the solution is to grow their own poppies, and stop wasting money on all that expensive rehab.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321

    nico67 said:

    Taz said:

    Trump now looking to Arab nations to bail out his lunacy

    ‘ BREAKING: President Trump is interested in calling on Arab countries to "pay for the cost of the Iran War," per White House officials.

    President Trump will soon have more to say on the topic, according to the White House.’

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2038686830631981284?s=61

    So he wants them to pay for all the economic damage done to their countries because of his stupid war .

    What’s Arabic for Trump go fxck yourself !
    Not sure, but, with apologies to the Ukrainian forces on Snake Island:

    "American president, go fuck yourself!"
    That would be a definite step up from whom he has usually been fucking.

    And indeed, if he'd only fucked himself we'd not have had this lunatic war given his real reasons for launching it...
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,460
    Given the state of the world we don’t need new oil fields but a mass cultivation of cannabis !

    May aswell get stoned until things improve if they ever do !
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,845
    eek said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    Lead time for drilling for oil 3+ years
    Time it would take to build pipelines to divert away from the Straits - 2 years

    Again we probably need to drill for oil but don't use the Gulf as an excuse...
    It has zero bearing on our energy security now or in the future, and represents tax revenues of less than 1% of our total over the next 10 years.

    Depressing that such a spurious diversion could be effective. Happily it hasn’t really worked - except for a very odd fringe, the main lesson taken from this crisis has been the right one - we need to accelerate our transition on consumption.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321
    stodge said:

    Good news! CPAC is coming to Britain

    https://x.com/mschlapp/status/2038637384129024317

    Former British PM Liz Truss joins me to announce the dates of CPAC Great Britain! 🇬🇧

    On the basis one would presumably have to pay to listen to the former Prime Minister, I was musing on which former Prime Minister(s) I would pay to hear and how much I would pay:

    Major; Yes (£10)
    Blair: No
    Brown: Yes (50p)
    Cameron: Yes (£2)
    May: Yes (I'm most interested in hearing her thoughts) (£20)
    Johnson: No
    Truss: No
    Sunak: Yes (£5)

    I suspect this will not be a universally-held view.
    Oh come on. Truss is worth a tenner. Comedy gold like that doesn't come around too often.

    I'd increase it to £20 if I could thrash her with a wet lettuce at some point in the performance.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,820
    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    How do you feel about alternative hot cross bun flavours, which this year have included triple chocolate, lemon curd and tiramisu?

    Prefer traditional buns: 45%
    Prefer non-traditional buns: 8%
    Not bothered either way: 28%

    Do not like hot cross buns: 15%
    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2038649564090057174?s=20

    I don't like the chocolate ones, especially as they melt in the toaster.

    The Co-op apple crumble ones are nice.
    After the success of our office mince pie blind taste-off before Christmas, we have a hot cross bun version next week. Strictly traditional, no funny flavours.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,435
    edited 7:07PM

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Nothing disingenuous to adapting policy for the good of the nation by increasing tax receipts by 25 billion over10 years

    And what about the 40 labour mps backing the proposals
    Breathing diesel particulates and punching a hole in the Ozone Layer is not the way forward. Go Zack!
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,820

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Except, they have been saying for many months that Miliband was completely wrong on this policy.

    The opportunists are in Labour.
    Some of us on the Labour side have been consistently slagging off Miliband's incoherent policy combo of blocking new gas production while simultaneously funding new build CCGT and Blue Hydrogen, to burn gas for the next 30 years.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,986

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Except, they have been saying for many months that Miliband was completely wrong on this policy.

    The opportunists are in Labour.
    They are selling the notion that licencing new fields for the future would resolve the lack of fuel at the pumps.

    One could also remind Kemi that she was foursquare behind Trump's disastrous adventure in the Gulf. Without Trump's disastrous adventure in the Gulf there would be fuel at the pumps.
    Kemi’s oil rig campaign will have succeeded on its own terms if it takes attention away from her enthusiastic embrace of Trump’s war in the early days.

    One senses it probably has. Any mud from this seems to be sticking more to Farage.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,130
    stodge said:

    Good news! CPAC is coming to Britain

    https://x.com/mschlapp/status/2038637384129024317

    Former British PM Liz Truss joins me to announce the dates of CPAC Great Britain! 🇬🇧

    On the basis one would presumably have to pay to listen to the former Prime Minister, I was musing on which former Prime Minister(s) I would pay to hear and how much I would pay:

    Major; Yes (£10)
    Blair: No
    Brown: Yes (50p)
    Cameron: Yes (£2)
    May: Yes (I'm most interested in hearing her thoughts) (£20)
    Johnson: No
    Truss: No
    Sunak: Yes (£5)

    I suspect this will not be a universally-held view.
    Why are you most interested in hearing Mrs May's thoughts?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,725

    Roger said:

    OT. Anyone who hasn't heard or seen this is missing something special. The News Agents. "Why MAGA Hates Britain"


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Y_ozT_p3g&t=1116s

    The interviews with CPAC attendees a bit after that time point are bizarre. They are not connected to reality. It remains startling how much these MAGA faithful are not connected to reality. And yet some UK politicians (Farage, Truss) want to join them.
    I thought they were quite frighteningly mad and Truss is either a deliberate liar or she's lost her mind

    (

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 135,132
    edited 7:18PM
    stodge said:

    Good news! CPAC is coming to Britain

    https://x.com/mschlapp/status/2038637384129024317

    Former British PM Liz Truss joins me to announce the dates of CPAC Great Britain! 🇬🇧

    On the basis one would presumably have to pay to listen to the former Prime Minister, I was musing on which former Prime Minister(s) I would pay to hear and how much I would pay:

    Major; Yes (£10)
    Blair: No
    Brown: Yes (50p)
    Cameron: Yes (£2)
    May: Yes (I'm most interested in hearing her thoughts) (£20)
    Johnson: No
    Truss: No
    Sunak: Yes (£5)

    I suspect this will not be a universally-held view.
    Boris gets over £250,000 per speech, here and abroad.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/sep/09/boris-johnson-paid-speeches-putin-queen-birthday-bash#:~:text=Some of the speeches may,two events were entirely unconnected.

    Tony Blair got £1 million per month for speech engagements, especially in the USA
    https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/tony-blair-makes-ps1m-a-month-from-private-speeches-as-offers-flood-in-for-the-former-pm-6654938.html/

    Even May and Cameron got thousands, Truss now charges £16,000 an hour and Brown got over £60,000 per speech and Major $50-75,000 per speaking engagement on the US lecture circuit. The Sunaks are worth over half a billion pounds anyway so don't need to bother, hence he focuses on tech projects and things he is interested in rather than speeches per say

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17072715
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ex-pm-theresa-gets-2m-28591304
    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/liz-truss-rakes-in-250k-in-speaking-fees-DWzgFX_2/
    https://gothamartists.com/john-major/
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,845

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Nothing disingenuous to adapting policy for the good of the nation by increasing tax receipts by 25 billion over10 years

    And what about the 40 labour mps backing the proposals
    Even the O&G lobby don’t think it would be that much. You need to net it off against the reduction in receipts (particularly in the short term, as you cut current windfall taxes) , and then pray that the economic activity develops later on and generates taxes through other paths (eg income and corporation tax).
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,435
    MelonB said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Except, they have been saying for many months that Miliband was completely wrong on this policy.

    The opportunists are in Labour.
    They are selling the notion that licencing new fields for the future would resolve the lack of fuel at the pumps.

    One could also remind Kemi that she was foursquare behind Trump's disastrous adventure in the Gulf. Without Trump's disastrous adventure in the Gulf there would be fuel at the pumps.
    Kemi’s oil rig campaign will have succeeded on its own terms if it takes attention away from her enthusiastic embrace of Trump’s war in the early days.

    One senses it probably has. Any mud from this seems to be sticking more to Farage.
    I desperately hope that those selling Badenoch as the future win the short game.

    If she leads the Conservatives into the next GE, they will not do well.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,417
    nico67 said:

    Taz said:

    Trump now looking to Arab nations to bail out his lunacy

    ‘ BREAKING: President Trump is interested in calling on Arab countries to "pay for the cost of the Iran War," per White House officials.

    President Trump will soon have more to say on the topic, according to the White House.’

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2038686830631981284?s=61

    So he wants them to pay for all the economic damage done to their countries because of his stupid war .

    What’s Arabic for Trump go fxck yourself !
    Khaleeji Arabic is not really my thing as I specialise in the classical austerity of Hejazi but approximately: نيك نفسك

    Approximate pronunciation is 'niq nafsaq'. Extra pejorative heft may be added by directing the interlocutor to direct his fucking efforts toward his sister's or mother's generative organ.

    Handle with care...
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,845

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Except, they have been saying for many months that Miliband was completely wrong on this policy.

    The opportunists are in Labour.
    Some of us on the Labour side have been consistently slagging off Miliband's incoherent policy combo of blocking new gas production while simultaneously funding new build CCGT and Blue Hydrogen, to burn gas for the next 30 years.
    Building new CCGT is a sensible policy, unless you want to see the lights go out in the winter? We’re going to be burning gas for decades to come.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,976

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Except, they have been saying for many months that Miliband was completely wrong on this policy.

    The opportunists are in Labour.
    They are selling the notion that licencing new fields for the future would resolve the lack of fuel at the pumps.

    One could also remind Kemi that she was foursquare behind Trump's disastrous adventure in the Gulf. Without Trump's disastrous adventure in the Gulf there would be fuel at the pumps.
    Kemi was not in the loop on the initial decision to attack Iran.

    Neither was Starmer.

    There is no problem with picking up the pieces in defending the Gulf states as a consequence of Trump/Netanyahu's actions. For either Starmer or Badenoch. After all, Starner is supposedly having a "great war"...

  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,379
    HYUFD said:

    stodge said:

    Good news! CPAC is coming to Britain

    https://x.com/mschlapp/status/2038637384129024317

    Former British PM Liz Truss joins me to announce the dates of CPAC Great Britain! 🇬🇧

    On the basis one would presumably have to pay to listen to the former Prime Minister, I was musing on which former Prime Minister(s) I would pay to hear and how much I would pay:

    Major; Yes (£10)
    Blair: No
    Brown: Yes (50p)
    Cameron: Yes (£2)
    May: Yes (I'm most interested in hearing her thoughts) (£20)
    Johnson: No
    Truss: No
    Sunak: Yes (£5)

    I suspect this will not be a universally-held view.
    Boris gets over £250,000 per speech, here and abroad.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/sep/09/boris-johnson-paid-speeches-putin-queen-birthday-bash#:~:text=Some of the speeches may,two events were entirely unconnected.

    Tony Blair got £1 million per month for speech engagements, especially in the USA
    https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/tony-blair-makes-ps1m-a-month-from-private-speeches-as-offers-flood-in-for-the-former-pm-6654938.html/

    Even May and Cameron got thousands, Truss now charges £16,000 an hour and Brown got over £60,000 per speech. The Sunaks are worth over half a billion pounds anyway so don't need to bother, hence he focuses on tech projects and things he is interested in rather than speeches per say

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17072715
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ex-pm-theresa-gets-2m-28591304
    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/liz-truss-rakes-in-250k-in-speaking-fees-DWzgFX_2/
    This was about what I would pay, not what the individuals can and do command which is governed presumably by market forces.

    It also explains why I never hear any of them speak live.
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