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  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,453

    Scott_xP said:

    geoffw said:

    Scott_xP said:

    geoffw said:

    Have the Mullahs been too busy to issue fatwas ?

    2 were issued yesterday
    Really? Against whom?

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬ Two senior Iranian Shiite religious leaders, Grand Ayatollah Hossein Nouri Hamedani and Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi, have issued fatwas calling on Muslims worldwide to take revenge for the killing of Khamenei.
    Ah, like with Salman Rushdie?
    I'm curious. If a shiite leader issues a fatwas do sunnis also listen and obey?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,453
    Scott_xP said:

    Speculation that the 6 US dead already announced is only a fraction of the actual number, but they are having trouble identifying the bodies

    That seems unlikely.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 10,716

    https://x.com/acyn/status/2028573242173366282

    Rubio: I’ve been asked: why now? One reason why is it was abundantly clear that if Iran came under attack by anyone, the United States or Israel or anyone, they were going to respond and respond against the United States.

    If we stood and waited for that attack to come first, before we hit them, we would suffer much higher casualties

    We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action, we knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces..

    Wow. That's a stark admission that Netanyahu calls the tune.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,996

    Scott_xP said:

    geoffw said:

    Scott_xP said:

    geoffw said:

    Have the Mullahs been too busy to issue fatwas ?

    2 were issued yesterday
    Really? Against whom?

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬ Two senior Iranian Shiite religious leaders, Grand Ayatollah Hossein Nouri Hamedani and Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi, have issued fatwas calling on Muslims worldwide to take revenge for the killing of Khamenei.
    Ah, like with Salman Rushdie?
    I'm curious. If a shiite leader issues a fatwas do sunnis also listen and obey?
    Only crap leaders issue fatwas.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,235

    https://x.com/acyn/status/2028573242173366282

    Rubio: I’ve been asked: why now? One reason why is it was abundantly clear that if Iran came under attack by anyone, the United States or Israel or anyone, they were going to respond and respond against the United States.

    If we stood and waited for that attack to come first, before we hit them, we would suffer much higher casualties

    We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action, we knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces..

    Wow. That's a stark admission that Netanyahu calls the tune.
    Yes. Pretty loony that.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,873
    FF43 said:

    Possibly related to topic header. It seems if the US doesn't eliminate Iran's drone and missile stockpiles in the next week or so, Iran's neighbours won't be able to protect themselves against incoming strikes

    The UAE is projected to exhaust its interceptor missile stock within one week at the current rate of fire, and Qatar within four days; both are urgently seeking additional military support from the United States. -Bloomberg

    UAE and Qatar are privately lobbying allies to help them persuade President Trump to reach for an off-ramp that would keep US military operations against Iran short, according to people familiar with the matter. - Bloomberg



    https://bsky.app/profile/shipwreck75.bsky.social/post/3mg3phqbw4k2u

    I wonder how many Shaheeds have been dispersed across Iran on pickups.

    They will be difficult to find.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,137

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Brixian59 said:

    @Brixian59 the Jewish state is the only way Jews can guarantee a second holocaust wont happen. That safety net is also available to Zak Polanski, if he ever needed it.

    If you think we don’t need it then you’re wrong. History teaches us that Jews are not safe, even in the West.

    I 100% agree with you.

    The.problem is that the current incumbent is hell bent on putting a target on the back of every Jew, every Synagogue on the planet.

    He and his extreme politics, bloodlust, illegal occupations have made every Jew less safe than at any time since the Holocaust.

    A more moderate more diplomatic globally aware Leadership that sought to defend rather than attack would make every Jew safer.

    I think the majority in Israel know that and want regime change.
    In an ideal world this would be nice. But, with respect, I am not sure you really get what it is like to live in a country surrounded by people who want to kill you and challenge your right even to exist. I don't have experience of this either but I think I am showing a little more empathy. Such stress leads a society to extremes. Its why the Israelis elect the people they do. They feel threatened and Netanyahu, corrupt monster that he is, plays to this.

    October 6th lifted this to another level. Everything we are currently seeing in the Middle east, including the genocide in Gaza, flows from this. This is not a liberal democracy however much we would like it to be.
    Where did October 7th ( which I assume you meant) flow from? Did it just pop up out of the blue?
    No, it drove Israel to overreact in a way that has become frankly horrific. And it has driven the aggression against Iran as well. They have driven the US into this because for them, in their perception, this is a matter of life and death.
    It is a matter of life and death. That is not an overreaction.

    Time to eliminate the evil at source.
    You seem very keen on the notion of eradication of bad guys with no thought for mass collateral casualties.

    Now Donald Trump has today confirmed that Starmer is a very bad man. Should Donald Trump determine that retribution for Starmer's evil is required, how do you feel about being collateral damage?

    Starmer is the bad guy, I've done nothing wrong, why should I be collateral damage for the guilt of a politician?
    There are repressive regimes, often sponsoring violence in neighbouring countries, across the world: North Korea, Afghanistan, Yemen, Sudan, DRC and, of course, Russia. Should we be trying to eliminate all those bad guys as well? Should we be joining in with Pakistan on their attacks on Afghanistan, for example? I am curious where @BartholomewRoberts ‘ fervour for war will take us.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,235

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Brixian59 said:

    @Brixian59 the Jewish state is the only way Jews can guarantee a second holocaust wont happen. That safety net is also available to Zak Polanski, if he ever needed it.

    If you think we don’t need it then you’re wrong. History teaches us that Jews are not safe, even in the West.

    I 100% agree with you.

    The.problem is that the current incumbent is hell bent on putting a target on the back of every Jew, every Synagogue on the planet.

    He and his extreme politics, bloodlust, illegal occupations have made every Jew less safe than at any time since the Holocaust.

    A more moderate more diplomatic globally aware Leadership that sought to defend rather than attack would make every Jew safer.

    I think the majority in Israel know that and want regime change.
    In an ideal world this would be nice. But, with respect, I am not sure you really get what it is like to live in a country surrounded by people who want to kill you and challenge your right even to exist. I don't have experience of this either but I think I am showing a little more empathy. Such stress leads a society to extremes. Its why the Israelis elect the people they do. They feel threatened and Netanyahu, corrupt monster that he is, plays to this.

    October 6th lifted this to another level. Everything we are currently seeing in the Middle east, including the genocide in Gaza, flows from this. This is not a liberal democracy however much we would like it to be.
    Where did October 7th ( which I assume you meant) flow from? Did it just pop up out of the blue?
    No, it drove Israel to overreact in a way that has become frankly horrific. And it has driven the aggression against Iran as well. They have driven the US into this because for them, in their perception, this is a matter of life and death.
    It is a matter of life and death. That is not an overreaction.

    Time to eliminate the evil at source.
    You seem very keen on the notion of eradication of bad guys with no thought for mass collateral casualties.

    Now Donald Trump has today confirmed that Starmer is a very bad man. Should Donald Trump determine that retribution for Starmer's evil is required, how do you feel about being collateral damage?

    Starmer is the bad guy, I've done nothing wrong, why should I be collateral damage for the guilt of a politician?
    There are repressive regimes, often sponsoring violence in neighbouring countries, across the world: North Korea, Afghanistan, Yemen, Sudan, DRC and, of course, Russia. Should we be trying to eliminate all those bad guys as well? Should we be joining in with Pakistan on their attacks on Afghanistan, for example? I am curious where @BartholomewRoberts ‘ fervour for war will take us.
    What did Saudi Arabia do to be left off the guest list?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,137
    glw said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @fintwitter.bsky.social‬

    U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE RUBIO SAYS REGIME CHANGE IS NOT AN EXPLICIT OBJECTIVE OF THE MISSION

    @gabrielmilland.bsky.social‬

    You can't analyse this stuff. It's the foreign policy equivalent of free jazz.

    Vibe coded war.
    The Legal Eagle YouTube channel described the Trump administration’s policies as being designed to generate social media content above all else.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,245
    DavidL said:

    glw said:

    Good to see that Trump has confirmed that he has no more idea what the real aims of Operation Epic Fury are than the rest of us.

    Its got something to do with the drapes in his now ball room, so far as I could work out.
    It's only delying the day when the American public - but more likely, the MAGA-sphere - start asking "So, about that underage girl you had sex with, Mr President..."

    The bigger the distraction, the guiltier he looks.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,827

    Scott_xP said:

    geoffw said:

    Scott_xP said:

    geoffw said:

    Have the Mullahs been too busy to issue fatwas ?

    2 were issued yesterday
    Really? Against whom?

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬ Two senior Iranian Shiite religious leaders, Grand Ayatollah Hossein Nouri Hamedani and Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi, have issued fatwas calling on Muslims worldwide to take revenge for the killing of Khamenei.
    Ah, like with Salman Rushdie?
    I'm curious. If a shiite leader issues a fatwas do sunnis also listen and obey?
    ‘I’m not listening to that because it’s shiite.’
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,245

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Brixian59 said:

    @Brixian59 the Jewish state is the only way Jews can guarantee a second holocaust wont happen. That safety net is also available to Zak Polanski, if he ever needed it.

    If you think we don’t need it then you’re wrong. History teaches us that Jews are not safe, even in the West.

    I 100% agree with you.

    The.problem is that the current incumbent is hell bent on putting a target on the back of every Jew, every Synagogue on the planet.

    He and his extreme politics, bloodlust, illegal occupations have made every Jew less safe than at any time since the Holocaust.

    A more moderate more diplomatic globally aware Leadership that sought to defend rather than attack would make every Jew safer.

    I think the majority in Israel know that and want regime change.
    In an ideal world this would be nice. But, with respect, I am not sure you really get what it is like to live in a country surrounded by people who want to kill you and challenge your right even to exist. I don't have experience of this either but I think I am showing a little more empathy. Such stress leads a society to extremes. Its why the Israelis elect the people they do. They feel threatened and Netanyahu, corrupt monster that he is, plays to this.

    October 6th lifted this to another level. Everything we are currently seeing in the Middle east, including the genocide in Gaza, flows from this. This is not a liberal democracy however much we would like it to be.
    Where did October 7th ( which I assume you meant) flow from? Did it just pop up out of the blue?
    No, it drove Israel to overreact in a way that has become frankly horrific. And it has driven the aggression against Iran as well. They have driven the US into this because for them, in their perception, this is a matter of life and death.
    It is a matter of life and death. That is not an overreaction.

    Time to eliminate the evil at source.
    You seem very keen on the notion of eradication of bad guys with no thought for mass collateral casualties.

    Now Donald Trump has today confirmed that Starmer is a very bad man. Should Donald Trump determine that retribution for Starmer's evil is required, how do you feel about being collateral damage?

    Starmer is the bad guy, I've done nothing wrong, why should I be collateral damage for the guilt of a politician?
    There are repressive regimes, often sponsoring violence in neighbouring countries, across the world: North Korea, Afghanistan, Yemen, Sudan, DRC and, of course, Russia. Should we be trying to eliminate all those bad guys as well? Should we be joining in with Pakistan on their attacks on Afghanistan, for example? I am curious where @BartholomewRoberts ‘ fervour for war will take us.
    What did Saudi Arabia do to be left off the guest list?
    They have to make up the oil production to stop prices going through the roof.
  • Goodness HMG is being proven correct every minute that passes.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,137

    Scott_xP said:

    geoffw said:

    Scott_xP said:

    geoffw said:

    Have the Mullahs been too busy to issue fatwas ?

    2 were issued yesterday
    Really? Against whom?

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬ Two senior Iranian Shiite religious leaders, Grand Ayatollah Hossein Nouri Hamedani and Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi, have issued fatwas calling on Muslims worldwide to take revenge for the killing of Khamenei.
    Ah, like with Salman Rushdie?
    I'm curious. If a shiite leader issues a fatwas do sunnis also listen and obey?
    Generally not, no.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,137

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Brixian59 said:

    @Brixian59 the Jewish state is the only way Jews can guarantee a second holocaust wont happen. That safety net is also available to Zak Polanski, if he ever needed it.

    If you think we don’t need it then you’re wrong. History teaches us that Jews are not safe, even in the West.

    I 100% agree with you.

    The.problem is that the current incumbent is hell bent on putting a target on the back of every Jew, every Synagogue on the planet.

    He and his extreme politics, bloodlust, illegal occupations have made every Jew less safe than at any time since the Holocaust.

    A more moderate more diplomatic globally aware Leadership that sought to defend rather than attack would make every Jew safer.

    I think the majority in Israel know that and want regime change.
    In an ideal world this would be nice. But, with respect, I am not sure you really get what it is like to live in a country surrounded by people who want to kill you and challenge your right even to exist. I don't have experience of this either but I think I am showing a little more empathy. Such stress leads a society to extremes. Its why the Israelis elect the people they do. They feel threatened and Netanyahu, corrupt monster that he is, plays to this.

    October 6th lifted this to another level. Everything we are currently seeing in the Middle east, including the genocide in Gaza, flows from this. This is not a liberal democracy however much we would like it to be.
    Where did October 7th ( which I assume you meant) flow from? Did it just pop up out of the blue?
    No, it drove Israel to overreact in a way that has become frankly horrific. And it has driven the aggression against Iran as well. They have driven the US into this because for them, in their perception, this is a matter of life and death.
    It is a matter of life and death. That is not an overreaction.

    Time to eliminate the evil at source.
    You seem very keen on the notion of eradication of bad guys with no thought for mass collateral casualties.

    Now Donald Trump has today confirmed that Starmer is a very bad man. Should Donald Trump determine that retribution for Starmer's evil is required, how do you feel about being collateral damage?

    Starmer is the bad guy, I've done nothing wrong, why should I be collateral damage for the guilt of a politician?
    There are repressive regimes, often sponsoring violence in neighbouring countries, across the world: North Korea, Afghanistan, Yemen, Sudan, DRC and, of course, Russia. Should we be trying to eliminate all those bad guys as well? Should we be joining in with Pakistan on their attacks on Afghanistan, for example? I am curious where @BartholomewRoberts ‘ fervour for war will take us.
    What did Saudi Arabia do to be left off the guest list?
    I was being generous. One could add Libya too. Belarus. Eritrea. Myanmar.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,343
    edited March 2
    If Trump chooses to take Canada Carney is not in a good position to complain. The protests are building in the US which is good to see.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 21,502
    More explosions in Cyprus apparently
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,453

    The Green Party
    @TheGreenParty

    Hope won 💚

    https://x.com/TheGreenParty/status/2028491258386067463


    ====

    Rachael Maskell in the background looks to be thinking - am i in the wrong party?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,453

    Goodness HMG is being proven correct every minute that passes.

    Tim Stanley
    @timothy_stanley
    ·
    3h
    No doubt the 49% of Brits who oppose military action are closet Islamists. Scary stuff.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,380

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Brixian59 said:

    @Brixian59 the Jewish state is the only way Jews can guarantee a second holocaust wont happen. That safety net is also available to Zak Polanski, if he ever needed it.

    If you think we don’t need it then you’re wrong. History teaches us that Jews are not safe, even in the West.

    I 100% agree with you.

    The.problem is that the current incumbent is hell bent on putting a target on the back of every Jew, every Synagogue on the planet.

    He and his extreme politics, bloodlust, illegal occupations have made every Jew less safe than at any time since the Holocaust.

    A more moderate more diplomatic globally aware Leadership that sought to defend rather than attack would make every Jew safer.

    I think the majority in Israel know that and want regime change.
    In an ideal world this would be nice. But, with respect, I am not sure you really get what it is like to live in a country surrounded by people who want to kill you and challenge your right even to exist. I don't have experience of this either but I think I am showing a little more empathy. Such stress leads a society to extremes. Its why the Israelis elect the people they do. They feel threatened and Netanyahu, corrupt monster that he is, plays to this.

    October 6th lifted this to another level. Everything we are currently seeing in the Middle east, including the genocide in Gaza, flows from this. This is not a liberal democracy however much we would like it to be.
    Where did October 7th ( which I assume you meant) flow from? Did it just pop up out of the blue?
    No, it drove Israel to overreact in a way that has become frankly horrific. And it has driven the aggression against Iran as well. They have driven the US into this because for them, in their perception, this is a matter of life and death.
    It is a matter of life and death. That is not an overreaction.

    Time to eliminate the evil at source.
    You seem very keen on the notion of eradication of bad guys with no thought for mass collateral casualties.

    Now Donald Trump has today confirmed that Starmer is a very bad man. Should Donald Trump determine that retribution for Starmer's evil is required, how do you feel about being collateral damage?

    Starmer is the bad guy, I've done nothing wrong, why should I be collateral damage for the guilt of a politician?
    There are repressive regimes, often sponsoring violence in neighbouring countries, across the world: North Korea, Afghanistan, Yemen, Sudan, DRC and, of course, Russia. Should we be trying to eliminate all those bad guys as well? Should we be joining in with Pakistan on their attacks on Afghanistan, for example? I am curious where @BartholomewRoberts ‘ fervour for war will take us.
    What did Saudi Arabia do to be left off the guest list?
    I was being generous. One could add Libya too. Belarus. Eritrea. Myanmar.
    Jersey
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,419

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Brixian59 said:

    @Brixian59 the Jewish state is the only way Jews can guarantee a second holocaust wont happen. That safety net is also available to Zak Polanski, if he ever needed it.

    If you think we don’t need it then you’re wrong. History teaches us that Jews are not safe, even in the West.

    I 100% agree with you.

    The.problem is that the current incumbent is hell bent on putting a target on the back of every Jew, every Synagogue on the planet.

    He and his extreme politics, bloodlust, illegal occupations have made every Jew less safe than at any time since the Holocaust.

    A more moderate more diplomatic globally aware Leadership that sought to defend rather than attack would make every Jew safer.

    I think the majority in Israel know that and want regime change.
    In an ideal world this would be nice. But, with respect, I am not sure you really get what it is like to live in a country surrounded by people who want to kill you and challenge your right even to exist. I don't have experience of this either but I think I am showing a little more empathy. Such stress leads a society to extremes. Its why the Israelis elect the people they do. They feel threatened and Netanyahu, corrupt monster that he is, plays to this.

    October 6th lifted this to another level. Everything we are currently seeing in the Middle east, including the genocide in Gaza, flows from this. This is not a liberal democracy however much we would like it to be.
    Where did October 7th ( which I assume you meant) flow from? Did it just pop up out of the blue?
    No, it drove Israel to overreact in a way that has become frankly horrific. And it has driven the aggression against Iran as well. They have driven the US into this because for them, in their perception, this is a matter of life and death.
    It is a matter of life and death. That is not an overreaction.

    Time to eliminate the evil at source.
    You seem very keen on the notion of eradication of bad guys with no thought for mass collateral casualties.

    Now Donald Trump has today confirmed that Starmer is a very bad man. Should Donald Trump determine that retribution for Starmer's evil is required, how do you feel about being collateral damage?

    Starmer is the bad guy, I've done nothing wrong, why should I be collateral damage for the guilt of a politician?
    There are repressive regimes, often sponsoring violence in neighbouring countries, across the world: North Korea, Afghanistan, Yemen, Sudan, DRC and, of course, Russia. Should we be trying to eliminate all those bad guys as well? Should we be joining in with Pakistan on their attacks on Afghanistan, for example? I am curious where @BartholomewRoberts ‘ fervour for war will take us.
    What did Saudi Arabia do to be left off the guest list?
    I was being generous. One could add Libya too. Belarus. Eritrea. Myanmar.
    Team Bart World Police.

    Do you want to know more?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,445
    After 4 years of war in Ukraine surely we must have learned that shooting missiles out of the sky is very impressive (and expensive). You need to destroy them at source. If they are mobile launched go after the factories and stockpiles. Apparently Israel hacked into the entire network of road cameras in Tehran.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,131
    edited March 2
    I can’t quite believe Rubio came out with those comments .

    Netenyahu is now running US foreign policy !
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,443
    Wonder which leader Trump will take out next.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,419
    Andy_JS said:

    Wonder which leader Trump will take out next.

    Sadiq Khan?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,945
    Andy_JS said:

    Wonder which leader Trump will take out next.

    Dugin said that if the IRGC collapses then Russia will be next.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,343

    Yougov poll. Public very much against as are the Americans. Interesting gthoughts

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V13sGGF3bU8
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,419

    Andy_JS said:

    Wonder which leader Trump will take out next.

    Dugin said that if the IRGC collapses then Russia will be next.
    Dugin a bit paranoid? Surely not!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,245
    edited March 2
    Andy_JS said:

    Wonder which leader Trump will take out next.

    Miguel Díaz-Canel in Cuba.
  • Trump is very unhappy with Starmer. Is that supposed to be a net negative for him?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,445
    rcs1000 said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Brixian59 said:

    @Brixian59 the Jewish state is the only way Jews can guarantee a second holocaust wont happen. That safety net is also available to Zak Polanski, if he ever needed it.

    If you think we don’t need it then you’re wrong. History teaches us that Jews are not safe, even in the West.

    I 100% agree with you.

    The.problem is that the current incumbent is hell bent on putting a target on the back of every Jew, every Synagogue on the planet.

    He and his extreme politics, bloodlust, illegal occupations have made every Jew less safe than at any time since the Holocaust.

    A more moderate more diplomatic globally aware Leadership that sought to defend rather than attack would make every Jew safer.

    I think the majority in Israel know that and want regime change.
    In an ideal world this would be nice. But, with respect, I am not sure you really get what it is like to live in a country surrounded by people who want to kill you and challenge your right even to exist. I don't have experience of this either but I think I am showing a little more empathy. Such stress leads a society to extremes. Its why the Israelis elect the people they do. They feel threatened and Netanyahu, corrupt monster that he is, plays to this.

    October 6th lifted this to another level. Everything we are currently seeing in the Middle east, including the genocide in Gaza, flows from this. This is not a liberal democracy however much we would like it to be.
    Where did October 7th ( which I assume you meant) flow from? Did it just pop up out of the blue?
    No, it drove Israel to overreact in a way that has become frankly horrific. And it has driven the aggression against Iran as well. They have driven the US into this because for them, in their perception, this is a matter of life and death.
    It is a matter of life and death. That is not an overreaction.

    Time to eliminate the evil at source.
    You seem very keen on the notion of eradication of bad guys with no thought for mass collateral casualties.

    Now Donald Trump has today confirmed that Starmer is a very bad man. Should Donald Trump determine that retribution for Starmer's evil is required, how do you feel about being collateral damage?

    Starmer is the bad guy, I've done nothing wrong, why should I be collateral damage for the guilt of a politician?
    There are repressive regimes, often sponsoring violence in neighbouring countries, across the world: North Korea, Afghanistan, Yemen, Sudan, DRC and, of course, Russia. Should we be trying to eliminate all those bad guys as well? Should we be joining in with Pakistan on their attacks on Afghanistan, for example? I am curious where @BartholomewRoberts ‘ fervour for war will take us.
    What did Saudi Arabia do to be left off the guest list?
    I was being generous. One could add Libya too. Belarus. Eritrea. Myanmar.
    Jersey
    Has there been a bigger state sponsor of terrorism than Iran?

    Many say the current actions by US and Israel are unwise. I might agree with them.

    Others say the actions are unjustified. Okay. I would like to know exactly what actions against Iran they think would be justified. If it's sanctions and diplomacy, well we have been doing that for decades.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,343
    edited March 2
    Roger said:


    Yougov poll. Public very much against as are the Americans. Interesting thoughts from Jeffrey Sachs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V13sGGF3bU8

    Jeffrey Sachs always worth listening to. Looks like Trump has done an Icarus...
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,155

    Scott_xP said:

    geoffw said:

    Scott_xP said:

    geoffw said:

    Have the Mullahs been too busy to issue fatwas ?

    2 were issued yesterday
    Really? Against whom?

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬ Two senior Iranian Shiite religious leaders, Grand Ayatollah Hossein Nouri Hamedani and Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi, have issued fatwas calling on Muslims worldwide to take revenge for the killing of Khamenei.
    Ah, like with Salman Rushdie?
    I'm curious. If a shiite leader issues a fatwas do sunnis also listen and obey?
    The self proclaimed Pope of a loony sect of Catholicism issues a religious decree.

    All the Protestant denominations around the world…

    Like that, basically.
  • Timothy Stanley has some independent thought.

    Is there a single Reform position that Camilla Tominey won’t defend?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,343
    &0% of American disapprove of Iran invasion.. Well at least Kemi and Farage are on board

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/03/01/iran-attack-trump-poll/88933730007/
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,689
    @salisbot.bsky.social‬

    Had some friends ask if they need to watch the last two World Wars to catch up before this one, but I told them they can probably stick to the Gulf War spin-off series if they're short on time

    https://bsky.app/profile/salisbot.bsky.social/post/3mg47k2uqts2o
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,945
    https://x.com/amconmag/status/2028571444502831342

    The New York Times reports that Vice President JD Vance argued that a limited strike against Iran was a mistake.

    "He told the group, it should 'go big and go fast.'"
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,131
    edited March 2
    Public support for military action is normally at its highest at the start .

    After that it tends to head south .
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 54,446

    After 4 years of war in Ukraine surely we must have learned that shooting missiles out of the sky is very impressive (and expensive). You need to destroy them at source. If they are mobile launched go after the factories and stockpiles. Apparently Israel hacked into the entire network of road cameras in Tehran.

    Don’t the missiles cost something like $50,000 yet intercepting them with the iron dome costs something like $1,500,000 a time?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,689
    @atrupar.com‬

    Marco Rubio: "We went proactively in a defensive way"
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,945
    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    Marco Rubio: "We went proactively in a defensive way"

    Has he been coached by Starmer?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 22,113
    FF43 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    geoffw said:

    Scott_xP said:

    geoffw said:

    Have the Mullahs been too busy to issue fatwas ?

    2 were issued yesterday
    Really? Against whom?

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬ Two senior Iranian Shiite religious leaders, Grand Ayatollah Hossein Nouri Hamedani and Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi, have issued fatwas calling on Muslims worldwide to take revenge for the killing of Khamenei.
    Ah, like with Salman Rushdie?
    I'm curious. If a shiite leader issues a fatwas do sunnis also listen and obey?
    Only crap leaders issue fatwas.
    Can't be right - I don't think Starmer has issued one yet!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,945
    nico67 said:

    Public support for military action is normally at its highest at the start .

    After they it tends to head south .

    It’s a good sign if it starts off low. No risk of irrational exuberance.
  • nico67 said:

    Public support for military action is normally at its highest at the start .

    After they it tends to head south .

    Yes as I recall the public supported Iraq initially.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,453

    https://x.com/amconmag/status/2028571444502831342

    The New York Times reports that Vice President JD Vance argued that a limited strike against Iran was a mistake.

    "He told the group, it should 'go big and go fast.'"

    Mr No More Forever Wars in the Middle East.

    You would have thought that was the one principle he would have clung to.

    Just pathetic. Like reeds in the wind.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,343
    Street demos in Pakistan. Jeremy Bowen is excellent. Trump is either beholden to Netanyahu or thick as planks.

    PS Very good documentary called something like 'Band on the Run' about Paul McCartney. Don't be put off Really watchable and something in it for everyone. For me it was Arrowsmith's cover photo of Band on the Run........
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,622

    FF43 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    geoffw said:

    Scott_xP said:

    geoffw said:

    Have the Mullahs been too busy to issue fatwas ?

    2 were issued yesterday
    Really? Against whom?

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬ Two senior Iranian Shiite religious leaders, Grand Ayatollah Hossein Nouri Hamedani and Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi, have issued fatwas calling on Muslims worldwide to take revenge for the killing of Khamenei.
    Ah, like with Salman Rushdie?
    I'm curious. If a shiite leader issues a fatwas do sunnis also listen and obey?
    Only crap leaders issue fatwas.
    Can't be right - I don't think Starmer has issued one yet!
    You're forgetting the one against Andy Burnham.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,524

    nico67 said:

    Public support for military action is normally at its highest at the start .

    After they it tends to head south .

    Yes as I recall the public supported Iraq initially.
    Not my recollection. There were huge demonstrations against it from the start.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 6,104

    After 4 years of war in Ukraine surely we must have learned that shooting missiles out of the sky is very impressive (and expensive). You need to destroy them at source. If they are mobile launched go after the factories and stockpiles. Apparently Israel hacked into the entire network of road cameras in Tehran.

    The other thing we should have learned is that dropping a few bombs for a week or two isn't usually enough to change a regime.

    Especially one that thinks it has God on its side and therefore that anything it does it justified.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,524
    Roger said:

    Street demos in Pakistan. Jeremy Bowen is excellent. Trump is either beholden to Netanyahu or thick as planks.

    PS Very good documentary called something like 'Band on the Run' about Paul McCartney. Don't be put off Really watchable and something in it for everyone. For me it was Arrowsmith's cover photo of Band on the Run........

    Band on the Run was McCartney's finest hour - and that's including everything he did with the Beatles.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,689

    https://x.com/amconmag/status/2028571444502831342

    The New York Times reports that Vice President JD Vance argued that a limited strike against Iran was a mistake.

    "He told the group, it should 'go big and go fast.'"

    Vance is the only one that hasn't publicly praised it
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,873
    IanB2 said:

    After 4 years of war in Ukraine surely we must have learned that shooting missiles out of the sky is very impressive (and expensive). You need to destroy them at source. If they are mobile launched go after the factories and stockpiles. Apparently Israel hacked into the entire network of road cameras in Tehran.

    Don’t the missiles cost something like $50,000 yet intercepting them with the iron dome costs something like $1,500,000 a time?
    $50k is probably an overestimate for Shaheds, depending on where the engines are coming from.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,945
    Scott_xP said:

    https://x.com/amconmag/status/2028571444502831342

    The New York Times reports that Vice President JD Vance argued that a limited strike against Iran was a mistake.

    "He told the group, it should 'go big and go fast.'"

    Vance is the only one that hasn't publicly praised it
    Maybe he thinks they didn’t go big enough.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,165
    Fishing said:

    After 4 years of war in Ukraine surely we must have learned that shooting missiles out of the sky is very impressive (and expensive). You need to destroy them at source. If they are mobile launched go after the factories and stockpiles. Apparently Israel hacked into the entire network of road cameras in Tehran.

    The other thing we should have learned is that dropping a few bombs for a week or two isn't usually enough to change a regime.

    Especially one that thinks it has God on its side and therefore that anything it does it justified.
    "Do you think that it is Allah's will that Israel exists?"
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,622
    Funny how when Russia say that the damage was caused by debris falling from an intercepted drone, everyone knows that they are talking shite, but when the lads in the Gulf come out with the same guff, some people accept it.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,165

    FF43 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    geoffw said:

    Scott_xP said:

    geoffw said:

    Have the Mullahs been too busy to issue fatwas ?

    2 were issued yesterday
    Really? Against whom?

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬ Two senior Iranian Shiite religious leaders, Grand Ayatollah Hossein Nouri Hamedani and Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi, have issued fatwas calling on Muslims worldwide to take revenge for the killing of Khamenei.
    Ah, like with Salman Rushdie?
    I'm curious. If a shiite leader issues a fatwas do sunnis also listen and obey?
    Only crap leaders issue fatwas.
    Can't be right - I don't think Starmer has issued one yet!
    It's a Thinwa.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,842
    Taz said:

    On a brighter note the group, Film is Fabulous, have secured the collection of a deceased film buff.

    The collection has a missing Dr Who episode in it.....

    ...which episode? It's not on their twitter https://x.com/filmisfabulous/with_replies

  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 3,583

    Roger said:

    Street demos in Pakistan. Jeremy Bowen is excellent. Trump is either beholden to Netanyahu or thick as planks.

    PS Very good documentary called something like 'Band on the Run' about Paul McCartney. Don't be put off Really watchable and something in it for everyone. For me it was Arrowsmith's cover photo of Band on the Run........

    Band on the Run was McCartney's finest hour - and that's including everything he did with the Beatles.
    Been listening to The Beatles very recently - Revolver, White Album, Sgt Pepper.

    Band on the Run better? Really? (Mind, it's years since I heard it).
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,842

    Goodness HMG is being proven correct every minute that passes.

    Remind me again: what is HMG's position today?
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,996
    edited March 2
    Scott_xP said:

    @fintwitter.bsky.social‬

    U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE RUBIO SAYS REGIME CHANGE IS NOT AN EXPLICIT OBJECTIVE OF THE MISSION

    @gabrielmilland.bsky.social‬

    You can't analyse this stuff. It's the foreign policy equivalent of free jazz.

    Given Iran is lobbing missiles at neighbours when it wasn't before and has closed the Straits of Hormuz for the first time ever, all thanks to Trump, I suspect the urgent objective now is to get the Iran to stop doing this. Normally it might be a cue for negotiations. But with whom? They killed them all.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,689
    @cmclymer

    Staffer: Sir, good news. One of the F-15 pilots ejected safely and is on the ground. Calm and cool under pressure. Badass aura. A video taken by a thankful Kuwaiti civilian is going viral.

    Hegseth: Fuck yeah. What's his name?

    Staffer: Okay, so, here's the part you won't like...

    https://x.com/cmclymer/status/2028545881369202692?s=20
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,343
    Newsnight must watch. 14 countries have told US citizens to leave their countries. Exraordinary.

    Also by 4 to 1 US citizens against the invasion.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,689
    The Trump regime claimed earlier today that all of Iran's Navy had been sunk

    Tonight they claim they will step up operations against the Iranian Navy...
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,945
    Scott_xP said:

    The Trump regime claimed earlier today that all of Iran's Navy had been sunk

    Tonight they claim they will step up operations against the Iranian Navy...

    They said they destroyed their 11 ships but they also have speedboats, etc.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,419

    Roger said:

    Street demos in Pakistan. Jeremy Bowen is excellent. Trump is either beholden to Netanyahu or thick as planks.

    PS Very good documentary called something like 'Band on the Run' about Paul McCartney. Don't be put off Really watchable and something in it for everyone. For me it was Arrowsmith's cover photo of Band on the Run........

    Band on the Run was McCartney's finest hour - and that's including everything he did with the Beatles.
    Wings were the band that the Beatles could have been.

    https://youtu.be/tyZspqjtG2k?si=Bu5xHqE4LJdUfQ4A
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 28,958
    Roger said:

    Newsnight must watch. 14 countries have told US citizens to leave their countries. Exraordinary.

    Also by 4 to 1 US citizens against the invasion.

    How did the stock market do ?

    Let us know how big the fall was on the S&P 500.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,523
    Do I read correctly?
    Melania presided at the UN Security Council?
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 28,958

    Roger said:

    Street demos in Pakistan. Jeremy Bowen is excellent. Trump is either beholden to Netanyahu or thick as planks.

    PS Very good documentary called something like 'Band on the Run' about Paul McCartney. Don't be put off Really watchable and something in it for everyone. For me it was Arrowsmith's cover photo of Band on the Run........

    Band on the Run was McCartney's finest hour - and that's including everything he did with the Beatles.
    Live and Let Die.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,523

    https://x.com/amconmag/status/2028571444502831342

    The New York Times reports that Vice President JD Vance argued that a limited strike against Iran was a mistake.

    "He told the group, it should 'go big and go fast.'"

    Mr No More Forever Wars in the Middle East.

    You would have thought that was the one principle he would have clung to.

    Just pathetic. Like reeds in the wind.
    Well. This won't be a forever War.
    Trump will be out of it as soon as he can make a profit.
  • MightyAlexMightyAlex Posts: 1,875
    edited March 2
    dixiedean said:

    Do I read correctly?
    Melania presided at the UN Security Council?

    Edit not very nice
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,165
    edited March 2
    Roger said:

    Newsnight must watch. 14 countries have told US citizens to leave their countries. Exraordinary.

    No, it's a State Department advisory.

    https://x.com/AsstSecStateCA/status/2028588420403241021
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 28,958
    dixiedean said:

    https://x.com/amconmag/status/2028571444502831342

    The New York Times reports that Vice President JD Vance argued that a limited strike against Iran was a mistake.

    "He told the group, it should 'go big and go fast.'"

    Mr No More Forever Wars in the Middle East.

    You would have thought that was the one principle he would have clung to.

    Just pathetic. Like reeds in the wind.
    Well. This won't be a forever War.
    Trump will be out of it as soon as he can make a profit.
    Trump's grifting is interesting in its style.

    I would imagine the most successful grifters want to get the money without the mark realising they've lost out - see The Sting as an example.

    Whereas Trump prefers the world to see his grifting.

    Why though ? Insecurity ? Boasting ? A sense of danger ?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,585
    FF43 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @fintwitter.bsky.social‬

    U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE RUBIO SAYS REGIME CHANGE IS NOT AN EXPLICIT OBJECTIVE OF THE MISSION

    @gabrielmilland.bsky.social‬

    You can't analyse this stuff. It's the foreign policy equivalent of free jazz.

    Given Iran is lobbing missiles at neighbours when it wasn't before and has closed the Straits of Hormuz for the first time ever, all thanks to Trump, I suspect the urgent objective now is to get the Iran to stop doing this. Normally it might be a cue for negotiations. But with whom? They killed them all.
    Nations will presumably lie about their objectives, but you'd assume you would undersell your intentions rather than oversell, and Trump cannot seem to help exaggerating what is anticipated on top of what are already impressive military operations (seizing Maduro vs 'taking over' Venezuela, killing Khamenei vs regime change), which then gets walked back.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,585
    Scott_xP said:

    The Trump regime claimed earlier today that all of Iran's Navy had been sunk

    Tonight they claim they will step up operations against the Iranian Navy...

    Hey, they still have ports don't they?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,285
    Ed Davey is an idiot.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,585
    edited March 2

    dixiedean said:

    https://x.com/amconmag/status/2028571444502831342

    The New York Times reports that Vice President JD Vance argued that a limited strike against Iran was a mistake.

    "He told the group, it should 'go big and go fast.'"

    Mr No More Forever Wars in the Middle East.

    You would have thought that was the one principle he would have clung to.

    Just pathetic. Like reeds in the wind.
    Well. This won't be a forever War.
    Trump will be out of it as soon as he can make a profit.
    Trump's grifting is interesting in its style.

    I would imagine the most successful grifters want to get the money without the mark realising they've lost out - see The Sting as an example.

    Whereas Trump prefers the world to see his grifting.

    Why though ? Insecurity ? Boasting ? A sense of danger ?
    He has an authoritarian's tendencies - it's not enough that he is the most powerful man in the world, he needs to see through behaviour and gifts that others acknowledge him as such. Sometimes that means being obvious in the grift. Think of the Fifa Prize and the Board of Peace 'fee' - which even those nations which didn't sign up to couldn't call it what it was. He will love that.

    That's why so many of his underlings have to drop in obsequeous personal praise that should really go without saying since they demonstrate their loyalty all the time anyway.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,343

    Roger said:

    Street demos in Pakistan. Jeremy Bowen is excellent. Trump is either beholden to Netanyahu or thick as planks.

    PS Very good documentary called something like 'Band on the Run' about Paul McCartney. Don't be put off Really watchable and something in it for everyone. For me it was Arrowsmith's cover photo of Band on the Run........

    Band on the Run was McCartney's finest hour - and that's including everything he did with the Beatles.
    Been listening to The Beatles very recently - Revolver, White Album, Sgt Pepper.

    Band on the Run better? Really? (Mind, it's years since I heard it).
    Its on Netflix by the way. Even though we all think we know him there are surprises. I loved the stuff in the Scottish countryside and his warts and all honesty. But as I said there's a moment for everyone. Quite a few home movies but very well put together
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,585
    Sandpit said:

    Ed Davey is an idiot.

    Most successful Liberal leader since Asquith.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,842

    Roger said:

    Street demos in Pakistan. Jeremy Bowen is excellent. Trump is either beholden to Netanyahu or thick as planks.

    PS Very good documentary called something like 'Band on the Run' about Paul McCartney. Don't be put off Really watchable and something in it for everyone. For me it was Arrowsmith's cover photo of Band on the Run........

    Band on the Run was McCartney's finest hour - and that's including everything he did with the Beatles.
    Live and Let Die.
    "...in which we live in..."
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 28,958
    kle4 said:

    dixiedean said:

    https://x.com/amconmag/status/2028571444502831342

    The New York Times reports that Vice President JD Vance argued that a limited strike against Iran was a mistake.

    "He told the group, it should 'go big and go fast.'"

    Mr No More Forever Wars in the Middle East.

    You would have thought that was the one principle he would have clung to.

    Just pathetic. Like reeds in the wind.
    Well. This won't be a forever War.
    Trump will be out of it as soon as he can make a profit.
    Trump's grifting is interesting in its style.

    I would imagine the most successful grifters want to get the money without the mark realising they've lost out - see The Sting as an example.

    Whereas Trump prefers the world to see his grifting.

    Why though ? Insecurity ? Boasting ? A sense of danger ?
    He has an authoritarian's tendencies - it's not enough that he is the most powerful man in the world, he needs to see through behaviour and gifts that others acknowledge him as such. Sometimes that means being obvious in the grift. Think of the Fifa Prize and the Board of Peace 'fee' - which even those nations which didn't sign up to couldn't call it what it was. He will love that.

    That's why so many of his underlings have to drop in obsequeous personal praise that should really go without saying since they demonstrate their loyalty all the time anyway.
    Trump is far more Philip Tattaglia than Vito Corleone.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,945
    kle4 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Ed Davey is an idiot.

    Most successful Liberal leader since Asquith.
    He's just got lucky because he inherited a favourable vote distribution. His main success now is keeping the Lib Dems in fifth place despite the travails of the traditional big parties.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,585

    kle4 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Ed Davey is an idiot.

    Most successful Liberal leader since Asquith.
    He's just got lucky because he inherited a favourable vote distribution. His main success now is keeping the Lib Dems in fifth place despite the travails of the traditional big parties.
    He should have retired as Leader for a new generation, then any failure to hold onto those seats won't be his fault.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,996
    kle4 said:

    FF43 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @fintwitter.bsky.social‬

    U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE RUBIO SAYS REGIME CHANGE IS NOT AN EXPLICIT OBJECTIVE OF THE MISSION

    @gabrielmilland.bsky.social‬

    You can't analyse this stuff. It's the foreign policy equivalent of free jazz.

    Given Iran is lobbing missiles at neighbours when it wasn't before and has closed the Straits of Hormuz for the first time ever, all thanks to Trump, I suspect the urgent objective now is to get the Iran to stop doing this. Normally it might be a cue for negotiations. But with whom? They killed them all.
    Nations will presumably lie about their objectives, but you'd assume you would undersell your intentions rather than oversell, and Trump cannot seem to help exaggerating what is anticipated on top of what are already impressive military operations (seizing Maduro vs 'taking over' Venezuela, killing Khamenei vs regime change), which then gets walked back.
    Maybe but the situation has gone backwards for America on the bits people can see: Hormuz, UAE, Qatar etc. We have to assume they will want to redress this as a matter of urgency.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,890

    dixiedean said:

    https://x.com/amconmag/status/2028571444502831342

    The New York Times reports that Vice President JD Vance argued that a limited strike against Iran was a mistake.

    "He told the group, it should 'go big and go fast.'"

    Mr No More Forever Wars in the Middle East.

    You would have thought that was the one principle he would have clung to.

    Just pathetic. Like reeds in the wind.
    Well. This won't be a forever War.
    Trump will be out of it as soon as he can make a profit.
    Trump's grifting is interesting in its style.

    I would imagine the most successful grifters want to get the money without the mark realising they've lost out - see The Sting as an example.

    Whereas Trump prefers the world to see his grifting.

    Why though ? Insecurity ? Boasting ? A sense of danger ?
    I had the urge to re-watch this the other week :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grifters_(film)

    "The film follows a lifelong con artist who reunites with her estranged son and, along with his girlfriend, becomes embroiled in a complex web of criminal activity."

    Not sure why it came to mind. But it's quite a good film. The scene of the con-artist insistingthat his marks come look out back at the amazing ultra-profitable tech he has - daring them to take him up on the offer... somehow keeps coming to mind.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 28,958
    FF43 said:

    kle4 said:

    FF43 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @fintwitter.bsky.social‬

    U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE RUBIO SAYS REGIME CHANGE IS NOT AN EXPLICIT OBJECTIVE OF THE MISSION

    @gabrielmilland.bsky.social‬

    You can't analyse this stuff. It's the foreign policy equivalent of free jazz.

    Given Iran is lobbing missiles at neighbours when it wasn't before and has closed the Straits of Hormuz for the first time ever, all thanks to Trump, I suspect the urgent objective now is to get the Iran to stop doing this. Normally it might be a cue for negotiations. But with whom? They killed them all.
    Nations will presumably lie about their objectives, but you'd assume you would undersell your intentions rather than oversell, and Trump cannot seem to help exaggerating what is anticipated on top of what are already impressive military operations (seizing Maduro vs 'taking over' Venezuela, killing Khamenei vs regime change), which then gets walked back.
    Maybe but the situation has gone backwards for America on the bits people can see: Hormuz, UAE, Qatar etc. We have to assume they will want to redress this as a matter of urgency.
    Not as much as its gone backwards for Iran's leadership since October 2023.

    Aside from being personally dead they've had their military trashed and their allies destroyed.

    Some wars have losers on multiple sides but that doesn't mean the war can be stopped once a certain momentum has been reached.

  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,945
    https://x.com/sentdefender/status/2028609206639607973

    The United States is preparing for a “major uptick” in attacks on Iran over the next 24 hours, heavily focused on destroying the country’s missile production, unmanned aerial vehicles and naval capability, though stocks of missiles are running low, especially Tomahawks and SM-3s, a senior U.S. official told CNN.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 37,749

    Scott_xP said:

    The Trump regime claimed earlier today that all of Iran's Navy had been sunk

    Tonight they claim they will step up operations against the Iranian Navy...

    They said they destroyed their 11 ships but they also have speedboats, etc.
    You are really earning your shilling today. Well done!
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,253

    https://x.com/sentdefender/status/2028609206639607973

    The United States is preparing for a “major uptick” in attacks on Iran over the next 24 hours, heavily focused on destroying the country’s missile production, unmanned aerial vehicles and naval capability, though stocks of missiles are running low, especially Tomahawks and SM-3s, a senior U.S. official told CNN.

    Your regular reminder that the magazines of VLS ships can't be replenished at sea.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,945
    https://x.com/jhaboush/status/2028626070950343005

    The US Embassy in Riyadh was struck by two UAVs, per US official. No injuries reported.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,343
    Congresswoman in a mess! About half way through. Lies Damned lies and more damned lies!

    What a mess!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVFT-i7jqAo
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,945
    U.S. Considers Relocating THAAD, Patriots from South Korea to the Middle East

    https://www.chosun.com/english/national-en/2026/03/03/OTCQNNDNORCHHG6Q5RB6YZ4NLA/
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