He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
Don't encourage him, or they'll be because of Brexit as well
Its pretty obvious why Brexiteers are keen to change the subject.
We're supposed to have a dozen destroyers and over twenty frigates.
Not numbers of both that you can count on one hand, and all largely laid up in port for want of men, fuel, and funds as well.
No wonder we're a sitting duck.
Australia has a better equipped airforce than we do.
It's embarrassing.
We're an island nation and entirely dependent upon freedom of navigation of the seas.
This is utter negligence.
Will you forgive the Tories for getting us to that position?
Tedious, childish, partisan and unhelpful.
Governments of all stripes over the last 25 years own this and, in case you haven't been paying any fucking attention whatsoever, I ripped shreds out of the government at the time due to the 2010 defence review, and cancelled my membership over it.
I’m sorry for introducing partisanship to such an impartial chap as yourself, and for not remembering what you were busting a forehead vein over 16 years ago.
It’s partisan, but it’s an important point.
Defence is an area where the Conservatives all too often talk right, but act left. Ditto criminal justice, ditto immigration.
About the only conviction they had in office, over 14 years, was defending the economic interests of better off pensioners.
If Reform destroy them, I’ll shed no tears.
Net immigration is declining due to the tighter visa wage requirements Sunak and Cleverly brought in, they also took the lowest earners out of income tax
Kemi did say she only joined the Tories for the social life and presumably to find a nice lad.
Rather sums up the image of Young Conservatives.
In the 1950s pre internet and iphones, joining the YCs was one of the best ways for an upper middle class young gent to meet an upper middle class young lady when class defined our politics more
It was totally the opposite in the Labour Party in the late 70s.
Join the local Party and sit in a room full of Linda Bellos lookalikes
We're supposed to have a dozen destroyers and over twenty frigates.
Not numbers of both that you can count on one hand, and all largely laid up in port for want of men, fuel, and funds as well.
No wonder we're a sitting duck.
Australia has a better equipped airforce than we do.
It's embarrassing.
We're an island nation and entirely dependent upon freedom of navigation of the seas.
This is utter negligence.
Will you forgive the Tories for getting us to that position?
Tedious, childish, partisan and unhelpful.
Governments of all stripes over the last 25 years own this and, in case you haven't been paying any fucking attention whatsoever, I ripped shreds out of the government at the time due to the 2010 defence review, and cancelled my membership over it.
I’m sorry for introducing partisanship to such an impartial chap as yourself, and for not remembering what you were busting a forehead vein over 16 years ago.
It’s partisan, but it’s an important point.
Defence is an area where the Conservatives all too often talk right, but act left. Ditto criminal justice, ditto immigration.
About the only conviction they had in office, over 14 years, was defending the economic interests of better off pensioners.
If Reform destroy them, I’ll shed no tears.
Goes back further than that.
Alan bloody Clark preened himself in his diaries for being the only man who could free up money for tax cuts via his defence review in 1990. OK, different global situation, but the impulse is the same.
Only question is whether Reform would do anything different.
We're supposed to have a dozen destroyers and over twenty frigates.
Not numbers of both that you can count on one hand, and all largely laid up in port for want of men, fuel, and funds as well.
No wonder we're a sitting duck.
Australia has a better equipped airforce than we do.
It's embarrassing.
We're an island nation and entirely dependent upon freedom of navigation of the seas.
This is utter negligence.
Will you forgive the Tories for getting us to that position?
Tedious, childish, partisan and unhelpful.
Governments of all stripes over the last 25 years own this and, in case you haven't been paying any fucking attention whatsoever, I ripped shreds out of the government at the time due to the 2010 defence review, and cancelled my membership over it.
I’m sorry for introducing partisanship to such an impartial chap as yourself, and for not remembering what you were busting a forehead vein over 16 years ago.
It’s partisan, but it’s an important point.
Defence is an area where the Conservatives all too often talk right, but act left. Ditto criminal justice, ditto immigration.
About the only conviction they had in office, over 14 years, was defending the economic interests of better off pensioners.
If Reform destroy them, I’ll shed no tears.
Goes back further than that.
Alan bloody Clark preened himself in his diaries for being the only man who could free up money for tax cuts via his defence review in 1990. OK, different global situation, but the impulse is the same.
Only question is whether Reform would do anything different.
Considering that most of the Reform MPs were frontbenchers in the government that buggerred Defence, Criminal Justice and immigration where should the smart money be?
I reckon a few months in PM Farage will make Starmer's and Truss's popularity ratings look good.
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
Nah, you're a boring tedious twat.
Never mind, eh.
I don't.
I've long since learned to brush off your occasional bouts of random invective substituting for argument. You're capable of better, though.
Kemi did say she only joined the Tories for the social life and presumably to find a nice lad.
Rather sums up the image of Young Conservatives.
In the 1950s pre internet and iphones, joining the YCs was one of the best ways for an upper middle class young gent to meet an upper middle class young lady when class defined our politics more
It was totally the opposite in the Labour Party in the late 70s.
Join the local Party and sit in a room full of Linda Bellos lookalikes
One of our former nurses was SWP in the Seventies and early Eighties. She describes it as a regular knocking shop, pub evenings and scraps with the National Front. She had a great time.
We're supposed to have a dozen destroyers and over twenty frigates.
Not numbers of both that you can count on one hand, and all largely laid up in port for want of men, fuel, and funds as well.
No wonder we're a sitting duck.
Australia has a better equipped airforce than we do.
It's embarrassing.
We're an island nation and entirely dependent upon freedom of navigation of the seas.
This is utter negligence.
Will you forgive the Tories for getting us to that position?
Tedious, childish, partisan and unhelpful.
Governments of all stripes over the last 25 years own this and, in case you haven't been paying any fucking attention whatsoever, I ripped shreds out of the government at the time due to the 2010 defence review, and cancelled my membership over it.
I’m sorry for introducing partisanship to such an impartial chap as yourself, and for not remembering what you were busting a forehead vein over 16 years ago.
It’s partisan, but it’s an important point.
Defence is an area where the Conservatives all too often talk right, but act left. Ditto criminal justice, ditto immigration.
About the only conviction they had in office, over 14 years, was defending the economic interests of better off pensioners.
If Reform destroy them, I’ll shed no tears.
Goes back further than that.
Alan bloody Clark preened himself in his diaries for being the only man who could free up money for tax cuts via his defence review in 1990. OK, different global situation, but the impulse is the same.
Only question is whether Reform would do anything different.
Considering that most of the Reform MPs were frontbenchers in the government that buggerred Defence, Criminal Justice and immigration where should the smart money be?
I reckon a few months in PM Farage will make Starmer's and Truss's popularity ratings look good.
Last night I was thinking that what we have at the moment is the opposite of people blindly voting for a party because they always did.
It seems bizarre to me that Reform are leading the polls with Farage + a load of Tories who were thrown out last time, whereas Kemi is a popular leader but dragged back by the party being so unpopular due to 2010-2024.
If the current Tories were called Reform, and Reform were called the Conservative Party I think Badenoch's Party would be leading the polls
We're supposed to have a dozen destroyers and over twenty frigates.
Not numbers of both that you can count on one hand, and all largely laid up in port for want of men, fuel, and funds as well.
No wonder we're a sitting duck.
Australia has a better equipped airforce than we do.
It's embarrassing.
We're an island nation and entirely dependent upon freedom of navigation of the seas.
This is utter negligence.
Will you forgive the Tories for getting us to that position?
Tedious, childish, partisan and unhelpful.
Governments of all stripes over the last 25 years own this and, in case you haven't been paying any fucking attention whatsoever, I ripped shreds out of the government at the time due to the 2010 defence review, and cancelled my membership over it.
I’m sorry for introducing partisanship to such an impartial chap as yourself, and for not remembering what you were busting a forehead vein over 16 years ago.
It’s partisan, but it’s an important point.
Defence is an area where the Conservatives all too often talk right, but act left. Ditto criminal justice, ditto immigration.
About the only conviction they had in office, over 14 years, was defending the economic interests of better off pensioners.
If Reform destroy them, I’ll shed no tears.
Goes back further than that.
Alan bloody Clark preened himself in his diaries for being the only man who could free up money for tax cuts via his defence review in 1990. OK, different global situation, but the impulse is the same.
Only question is whether Reform would do anything different.
Considering that most of the Reform MPs were frontbenchers in the government that buggerred Defence, Criminal Justice and immigration where should the smart money be?
I reckon a few months in PM Farage will make Starmer's and Truss's popularity ratings look good.
Farage will never make it to PM. The insurgents will start peeling off to Restore and then the Tories will start going home. Filling Reform with the Boris cabinet will be the beginning of the end
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
Nah, you're a boring tedious twat.
Never mind, eh.
I don't.
I've long since learned to brush off your occasional bouts of random invective substituting for argument. You're capable of better, though.
The abuse is un-called for, but the argument us solid. In any negotiation, you need to know what you want, and also know that you can walk away if the cost becomes too high. I don't consider Sunak's Windsor Framework negotiations to be at all a triumph, but they weren't a complete disaster, party because Boris's threat to use the NIP was credible and the EU needed that to be neutralised, and partly because Sunak knew what he wanted.
Starmer has none of that. What he wants is purely political - a rapprochment to make the pain of Brexit go away. Walking away is impossible, because he needs something politically, and to walk away, even to be firm, would be a Tory approach and therefore unacceptable. The EU sees him coming a mile away. He is utterly useless in any foreign policy scenario.
We're supposed to have a dozen destroyers and over twenty frigates.
Not numbers of both that you can count on one hand, and all largely laid up in port for want of men, fuel, and funds as well.
No wonder we're a sitting duck.
Australia has a better equipped airforce than we do.
It's embarrassing.
We're an island nation and entirely dependent upon freedom of navigation of the seas.
This is utter negligence.
Will you forgive the Tories for getting us to that position?
Tedious, childish, partisan and unhelpful.
Governments of all stripes over the last 25 years own this and, in case you haven't been paying any fucking attention whatsoever, I ripped shreds out of the government at the time due to the 2010 defence review, and cancelled my membership over it.
I’m sorry for introducing partisanship to such an impartial chap as yourself, and for not remembering what you were busting a forehead vein over 16 years ago.
It’s partisan, but it’s an important point.
Defence is an area where the Conservatives all too often talk right, but act left. Ditto criminal justice, ditto immigration.
About the only conviction they had in office, over 14 years, was defending the economic interests of better off pensioners.
If Reform destroy them, I’ll shed no tears.
And, that's why they're at where we're at.
I just find it funny that regular posters feel the need to point it out to me as if I'm @HYUFD when I've regularly criticised the Conservatives on all those subjects over the last 15+ years, and well they know it.
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
I never hafd you down as a Reeves apologist.
Every decade has its events. The GFC of 2007, Black Wednesday in the 90's, the fuel crises of the Seventies etc etc.
The fact is that GDP growth has been significantly below historic trend since 2016 points to one thing, and one obvious way to get back to historic growth rates.
Germany and France have been significantly below historic trend since 2016.
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
Don't encourage him, or they'll be because of Brexit as well
Its pretty obvious why Brexiteers are keen to change the subject.
We're supposed to have a dozen destroyers and over twenty frigates.
Not numbers of both that you can count on one hand, and all largely laid up in port for want of men, fuel, and funds as well.
No wonder we're a sitting duck.
Australia has a better equipped airforce than we do.
It's embarrassing.
We're an island nation and entirely dependent upon freedom of navigation of the seas.
This is utter negligence.
Will you forgive the Tories for getting us to that position?
Tedious, childish, partisan and unhelpful.
Governments of all stripes over the last 25 years own this and, in case you haven't been paying any fucking attention whatsoever, I ripped shreds out of the government at the time due to the 2010 defence review, and cancelled my membership over it.
I’m sorry for introducing partisanship to such an impartial chap as yourself, and for not remembering what you were busting a forehead vein over 16 years ago.
It’s partisan, but it’s an important point.
Defence is an area where the Conservatives all too often talk right, but act left. Ditto criminal justice, ditto immigration.
About the only conviction they had in office, over 14 years, was defending the economic interests of better off pensioners.
If Reform destroy them, I’ll shed no tears.
Goes back further than that.
Alan bloody Clark preened himself in his diaries for being the only man who could free up money for tax cuts via his defence review in 1990. OK, different global situation, but the impulse is the same.
Only question is whether Reform would do anything different.
Considering that most of the Reform MPs were frontbenchers in the government that buggerred Defence, Criminal Justice and immigration where should the smart money be?
I reckon a few months in PM Farage will make Starmer's and Truss's popularity ratings look good.
Farage will never make it to PM. The insurgents will start peeling off to Restore and then the Tories will start going home. Filling Reform with the Boris cabinet will be the beginning of the end
Restore gettig 5-6% should be enough to see Reform going under the Tories.
Then we will see how attractive either are, long term.
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
Nah, you're a boring tedious twat.
Never mind, eh.
I don't.
I've long since learned to brush off your occasional bouts of random invective substituting for argument. You're capable of better, though.
So are you, but you've mainly been a bitter provocative dick recently, so you can enjoy the taste of your own medicine for once.
If you learn not to be a dick, then maybe you won't get it back.
"McLevy is a British radio crime drama series, written by David Ashton, about the 19th century Edinburgh police detective James McLevy. Broadcast on BBC Radio 4 as part of its Afternoon Drama slot, the drama stars Brian Cox and Siobhan Redmond".
Some very enjoyable episodes and little local/historical nods.
It is very good. Got a real sense of Edinburgh from it.
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
I never hafd you down as a Reeves apologist.
Every decade has its events. The GFC of 2007, Black Wednesday in the 90's, the fuel crises of the Seventies etc etc.
The fact is that GDP growth has been significantly below historic trend since 2016 points to one thing, and one obvious way to get back to historic growth rates.
Germany and France have been significantly below historic trend since 2016.
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
I never hafd you down as a Reeves apologist.
Every decade has its events. The GFC of 2007, Black Wednesday in the 90's, the fuel crises of the Seventies etc etc.
The fact is that GDP growth has been significantly below historic trend since 2016 points to one thing, and one obvious way to get back to historic growth rates.
Germany and France have been significantly below historic trend since 2016.
We're supposed to have a dozen destroyers and over twenty frigates.
Not numbers of both that you can count on one hand, and all largely laid up in port for want of men, fuel, and funds as well.
No wonder we're a sitting duck.
Australia has a better equipped airforce than we do.
It's embarrassing.
We're an island nation and entirely dependent upon freedom of navigation of the seas.
This is utter negligence.
Will you forgive the Tories for getting us to that position?
Tedious, childish, partisan and unhelpful.
Governments of all stripes over the last 25 years own this and, in case you haven't been paying any fucking attention whatsoever, I ripped shreds out of the government at the time due to the 2010 defence review, and cancelled my membership over it.
I’m sorry for introducing partisanship to such an impartial chap as yourself, and for not remembering what you were busting a forehead vein over 16 years ago.
It’s partisan, but it’s an important point.
Defence is an area where the Conservatives all too often talk right, but act left. Ditto criminal justice, ditto immigration.
About the only conviction they had in office, over 14 years, was defending the economic interests of better off pensioners.
If Reform destroy them, I’ll shed no tears.
Goes back further than that.
Alan bloody Clark preened himself in his diaries for being the only man who could free up money for tax cuts via his defence review in 1990. OK, different global situation, but the impulse is the same.
Only question is whether Reform would do anything different.
Considering that most of the Reform MPs were frontbenchers in the government that buggerred Defence, Criminal Justice and immigration where should the smart money be?
I reckon a few months in PM Farage will make Starmer's and Truss's popularity ratings look good.
Farage will never make it to PM. The insurgents will start peeling off to Restore and then the Tories will start going home. Filling Reform with the Boris cabinet will be the beginning of the end
Restore gettig 5-6% should be enough to see Reform going under the Tories.
Then we will see how attractive either are, long term.
Reform will also need ro turn fire from Tories on to Rupert. Tbf Restore might nick a couple % off the Tories too but long term its the beginning of the end of project Nigel PM
We're supposed to have a dozen destroyers and over twenty frigates.
Not numbers of both that you can count on one hand, and all largely laid up in port for want of men, fuel, and funds as well.
No wonder we're a sitting duck.
Australia has a better equipped airforce than we do.
It's embarrassing.
We're an island nation and entirely dependent upon freedom of navigation of the seas.
This is utter negligence.
Will you forgive the Tories for getting us to that position?
Tedious, childish, partisan and unhelpful.
Governments of all stripes over the last 25 years own this and, in case you haven't been paying any fucking attention whatsoever, I ripped shreds out of the government at the time due to the 2010 defence review, and cancelled my membership over it.
I’m sorry for introducing partisanship to such an impartial chap as yourself, and for not remembering what you were busting a forehead vein over 16 years ago.
It’s partisan, but it’s an important point.
Defence is an area where the Conservatives all too often talk right, but act left. Ditto criminal justice, ditto immigration.
About the only conviction they had in office, over 14 years, was defending the economic interests of better off pensioners.
If Reform destroy them, I’ll shed no tears.
Goes back further than that.
Alan bloody Clark preened himself in his diaries for being the only man who could free up money for tax cuts via his defence review in 1990. OK, different global situation, but the impulse is the same.
Only question is whether Reform would do anything different.
Considering that most of the Reform MPs were frontbenchers in the government that buggerred Defence, Criminal Justice and immigration where should the smart money be?
I reckon a few months in PM Farage will make Starmer's and Truss's popularity ratings look good.
Farage will never make it to PM. The insurgents will start peeling off to Restore and then the Tories will start going home. Filling Reform with the Boris cabinet will be the beginning of the end
Restore gettig 5-6% should be enough to see Reform going under the Tories.
Then we will see how attractive either are, long term.
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
I never hafd you down as a Reeves apologist.
Every decade has its events. The GFC of 2007, Black Wednesday in the 90's, the fuel crises of the Seventies etc etc.
The fact is that GDP growth has been significantly below historic trend since 2016 points to one thing, and one obvious way to get back to historic growth rates.
Germany and France have been significantly below historic trend since 2016.
We're supposed to have a dozen destroyers and over twenty frigates.
Not numbers of both that you can count on one hand, and all largely laid up in port for want of men, fuel, and funds as well.
No wonder we're a sitting duck.
Australia has a better equipped airforce than we do.
It's embarrassing.
We're an island nation and entirely dependent upon freedom of navigation of the seas.
This is utter negligence.
Will you forgive the Tories for getting us to that position?
Tedious, childish, partisan and unhelpful.
Governments of all stripes over the last 25 years own this and, in case you haven't been paying any fucking attention whatsoever, I ripped shreds out of the government at the time due to the 2010 defence review, and cancelled my membership over it.
I’m sorry for introducing partisanship to such an impartial chap as yourself, and for not remembering what you were busting a forehead vein over 16 years ago.
It’s partisan, but it’s an important point.
Defence is an area where the Conservatives all too often talk right, but act left. Ditto criminal justice, ditto immigration.
About the only conviction they had in office, over 14 years, was defending the economic interests of better off pensioners.
If Reform destroy them, I’ll shed no tears.
Goes back further than that.
Alan bloody Clark preened himself in his diaries for being the only man who could free up money for tax cuts via his defence review in 1990. OK, different global situation, but the impulse is the same.
Only question is whether Reform would do anything different.
Considering that most of the Reform MPs were frontbenchers in the government that buggerred Defence, Criminal Justice and immigration where should the smart money be?
I reckon a few months in PM Farage will make Starmer's and Truss's popularity ratings look good.
Farage will never make it to PM. The insurgents will start peeling off to Restore and then the Tories will start going home. Filling Reform with the Boris cabinet will be the beginning of the end
Restore gettig 5-6% should be enough to see Reform going under the Tories.
Then we will see how attractive either are, long term.
Restore aren't going to get 5% in a GE.
No, but in the next six months they might be the Shiny New Thing on the right, that makes theReform Shiny New Thing look a bit tarnished...
In a general election, Reform aren't going to get 30%. Nowhere close.
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
I never hafd you down as a Reeves apologist.
Every decade has its events. The GFC of 2007, Black Wednesday in the 90's, the fuel crises of the Seventies etc etc.
The fact is that GDP growth has been significantly below historic trend since 2016 points to one thing, and one obvious way to get back to historic growth rates.
Germany and France have been significantly below historic trend since 2016.
Everywhere in the developed world has been running below trend since 2008 (with the possible exceptions of Australia and Canada) - and that's true whether one is European, Japanese or American.
We're supposed to have a dozen destroyers and over twenty frigates.
Not numbers of both that you can count on one hand, and all largely laid up in port for want of men, fuel, and funds as well.
No wonder we're a sitting duck.
Australia has a better equipped airforce than we do.
It's embarrassing.
We're an island nation and entirely dependent upon freedom of navigation of the seas.
This is utter negligence.
Will you forgive the Tories for getting us to that position?
Tedious, childish, partisan and unhelpful.
Governments of all stripes over the last 25 years own this and, in case you haven't been paying any fucking attention whatsoever, I ripped shreds out of the government at the time due to the 2010 defence review, and cancelled my membership over it.
I’m sorry for introducing partisanship to such an impartial chap as yourself, and for not remembering what you were busting a forehead vein over 16 years ago.
It’s partisan, but it’s an important point.
Defence is an area where the Conservatives all too often talk right, but act left. Ditto criminal justice, ditto immigration.
About the only conviction they had in office, over 14 years, was defending the economic interests of better off pensioners.
If Reform destroy them, I’ll shed no tears.
Goes back further than that.
Alan bloody Clark preened himself in his diaries for being the only man who could free up money for tax cuts via his defence review in 1990. OK, different global situation, but the impulse is the same.
Only question is whether Reform would do anything different.
Considering that most of the Reform MPs were frontbenchers in the government that buggerred Defence, Criminal Justice and immigration where should the smart money be?
I reckon a few months in PM Farage will make Starmer's and Truss's popularity ratings look good.
Farage will never make it to PM. The insurgents will start peeling off to Restore and then the Tories will start going home. Filling Reform with the Boris cabinet will be the beginning of the end
Restore gettig 5-6% should be enough to see Reform going under the Tories.
Then we will see how attractive either are, long term.
Restore aren't going to get 5% in a GE.
Workers got 3% in a quarter of seats in 2024 so a start up certainly can get a few % Advance will almost certainly fold in to Restore (Habib has said as much) Lowe represents what the insurgent Reform vote/radical Reform want Farage/Reform are now basically the Tories from Paterson to the Truss mini budget
We're supposed to have a dozen destroyers and over twenty frigates.
Not numbers of both that you can count on one hand, and all largely laid up in port for want of men, fuel, and funds as well.
No wonder we're a sitting duck.
Australia has a better equipped airforce than we do.
It's embarrassing.
We're an island nation and entirely dependent upon freedom of navigation of the seas.
This is utter negligence.
Will you forgive the Tories for getting us to that position?
Tedious, childish, partisan and unhelpful.
Governments of all stripes over the last 25 years own this and, in case you haven't been paying any fucking attention whatsoever, I ripped shreds out of the government at the time due to the 2010 defence review, and cancelled my membership over it.
I’m sorry for introducing partisanship to such an impartial chap as yourself, and for not remembering what you were busting a forehead vein over 16 years ago.
It’s partisan, but it’s an important point.
Defence is an area where the Conservatives all too often talk right, but act left. Ditto criminal justice, ditto immigration.
About the only conviction they had in office, over 14 years, was defending the economic interests of better off pensioners.
If Reform destroy them, I’ll shed no tears.
Goes back further than that.
Alan bloody Clark preened himself in his diaries for being the only man who could free up money for tax cuts via his defence review in 1990. OK, different global situation, but the impulse is the same.
Only question is whether Reform would do anything different.
Considering that most of the Reform MPs were frontbenchers in the government that buggerred Defence, Criminal Justice and immigration where should the smart money be?
I reckon a few months in PM Farage will make Starmer's and Truss's popularity ratings look good.
Farage will never make it to PM. The insurgents will start peeling off to Restore and then the Tories will start going home. Filling Reform with the Boris cabinet will be the beginning of the end
Restore gettig 5-6% should be enough to see Reform going under the Tories.
Then we will see how attractive either are, long term.
The whole spectrum could shift with the Tories becoming the progressive party taking over from Labour, Reform becoming the mainstream right party taking over fro the Conservatives, and Restore becoming the new UKIP. The Lib Dems would remain as the party of none of the above.
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
I never hafd you down as a Reeves apologist.
Every decade has its events. The GFC of 2007, Black Wednesday in the 90's, the fuel crises of the Seventies etc etc.
The fact is that GDP growth has been significantly below historic trend since 2016 points to one thing, and one obvious way to get back to historic growth rates.
Germany and France have been significantly below historic trend since 2016.
Everywhere in the developed world has been running below trend since 2008 (with the possible exceptions of Australia and Canada) - and that's true whether one is European, Japanese or American.
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
I never hafd you down as a Reeves apologist.
Every decade has its events. The GFC of 2007, Black Wednesday in the 90's, the fuel crises of the Seventies etc etc.
The fact is that GDP growth has been significantly below historic trend since 2016 points to one thing, and one obvious way to get back to historic growth rates.
Germany and France have been significantly below historic trend since 2016.
We're supposed to have a dozen destroyers and over twenty frigates.
Not numbers of both that you can count on one hand, and all largely laid up in port for want of men, fuel, and funds as well.
No wonder we're a sitting duck.
Australia has a better equipped airforce than we do.
It's embarrassing.
We're an island nation and entirely dependent upon freedom of navigation of the seas.
This is utter negligence.
Will you forgive the Tories for getting us to that position?
Tedious, childish, partisan and unhelpful.
Governments of all stripes over the last 25 years own this and, in case you haven't been paying any fucking attention whatsoever, I ripped shreds out of the government at the time due to the 2010 defence review, and cancelled my membership over it.
I’m sorry for introducing partisanship to such an impartial chap as yourself, and for not remembering what you were busting a forehead vein over 16 years ago.
It’s partisan, but it’s an important point.
Defence is an area where the Conservatives all too often talk right, but act left. Ditto criminal justice, ditto immigration.
About the only conviction they had in office, over 14 years, was defending the economic interests of better off pensioners.
If Reform destroy them, I’ll shed no tears.
Goes back further than that.
Alan bloody Clark preened himself in his diaries for being the only man who could free up money for tax cuts via his defence review in 1990. OK, different global situation, but the impulse is the same.
Only question is whether Reform would do anything different.
Considering that most of the Reform MPs were frontbenchers in the government that buggerred Defence, Criminal Justice and immigration where should the smart money be?
I reckon a few months in PM Farage will make Starmer's and Truss's popularity ratings look good.
Farage will never make it to PM. The insurgents will start peeling off to Restore and then the Tories will start going home. Filling Reform with the Boris cabinet will be the beginning of the end
Restore gettig 5-6% should be enough to see Reform going under the Tories.
Then we will see how attractive either are, long term.
Restore aren't going to get 5% in a GE.
No, but in the next six months they might be the Shiny New Thing on the right, that makes theReform Shiny New Thing look a bit tarnished...
In a general election, Reform aren't going to get 30%. Nowhere close.
And a chunk of the '30%' are former non voters who have no tribal loyalty. Many just want full fat nationalism of a type Lowe will offer and Farage just sort of half teases when he's not introducing another meh defector
Mrs Foxy is on the Prosecco, I am working my way through a decent Crianza Rioja. Celebrating the engagement of Fox Jr and his lovely girlfriend while they are on a city break. Its only taken them ten years...
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
I never hafd you down as a Reeves apologist.
Every decade has its events. The GFC of 2007, Black Wednesday in the 90's, the fuel crises of the Seventies etc etc.
The fact is that GDP growth has been significantly below historic trend since 2016 points to one thing, and one obvious way to get back to historic growth rates.
Germany and France have been significantly below historic trend since 2016.
We're supposed to have a dozen destroyers and over twenty frigates.
Not numbers of both that you can count on one hand, and all largely laid up in port for want of men, fuel, and funds as well.
No wonder we're a sitting duck.
Australia has a better equipped airforce than we do.
It's embarrassing.
We're an island nation and entirely dependent upon freedom of navigation of the seas.
This is utter negligence.
Will you forgive the Tories for getting us to that position?
Tedious, childish, partisan and unhelpful.
Governments of all stripes over the last 25 years own this and, in case you haven't been paying any fucking attention whatsoever, I ripped shreds out of the government at the time due to the 2010 defence review, and cancelled my membership over it.
I’m sorry for introducing partisanship to such an impartial chap as yourself, and for not remembering what you were busting a forehead vein over 16 years ago.
It’s partisan, but it’s an important point.
Defence is an area where the Conservatives all too often talk right, but act left. Ditto criminal justice, ditto immigration.
About the only conviction they had in office, over 14 years, was defending the economic interests of better off pensioners.
If Reform destroy them, I’ll shed no tears.
Goes back further than that.
Alan bloody Clark preened himself in his diaries for being the only man who could free up money for tax cuts via his defence review in 1990. OK, different global situation, but the impulse is the same.
Only question is whether Reform would do anything different.
Considering that most of the Reform MPs were frontbenchers in the government that buggerred Defence, Criminal Justice and immigration where should the smart money be?
I reckon a few months in PM Farage will make Starmer's and Truss's popularity ratings look good.
Farage will never make it to PM. The insurgents will start peeling off to Restore and then the Tories will start going home. Filling Reform with the Boris cabinet will be the beginning of the end
Restore gettig 5-6% should be enough to see Reform going under the Tories.
Then we will see how attractive either are, long term.
The whole spectrum could shift with the Tories becoming the progressive party taking over from Labour, Reform becoming the mainstream right party taking over fro the Conservatives, and Restore becoming the new UKIP. The Lib Dems would remain as the party of none of the above.
The Tories need to squat on dry as dust Thatcherism like the broodiest hens in history Release an army of Keith Josephs
We're supposed to have a dozen destroyers and over twenty frigates.
Not numbers of both that you can count on one hand, and all largely laid up in port for want of men, fuel, and funds as well.
No wonder we're a sitting duck.
Australia has a better equipped airforce than we do.
It's embarrassing.
We're an island nation and entirely dependent upon freedom of navigation of the seas.
This is utter negligence.
Will you forgive the Tories for getting us to that position?
Tedious, childish, partisan and unhelpful.
Governments of all stripes over the last 25 years own this and, in case you haven't been paying any fucking attention whatsoever, I ripped shreds out of the government at the time due to the 2010 defence review, and cancelled my membership over it.
I’m sorry for introducing partisanship to such an impartial chap as yourself, and for not remembering what you were busting a forehead vein over 16 years ago.
It’s partisan, but it’s an important point.
Defence is an area where the Conservatives all too often talk right, but act left. Ditto criminal justice, ditto immigration.
About the only conviction they had in office, over 14 years, was defending the economic interests of better off pensioners.
If Reform destroy them, I’ll shed no tears.
Goes back further than that.
Alan bloody Clark preened himself in his diaries for being the only man who could free up money for tax cuts via his defence review in 1990. OK, different global situation, but the impulse is the same.
Only question is whether Reform would do anything different.
Considering that most of the Reform MPs were frontbenchers in the government that buggerred Defence, Criminal Justice and immigration where should the smart money be?
I reckon a few months in PM Farage will make Starmer's and Truss's popularity ratings look good.
Farage will never make it to PM. The insurgents will start peeling off to Restore and then the Tories will start going home. Filling Reform with the Boris cabinet will be the beginning of the end
Restore gettig 5-6% should be enough to see Reform going under the Tories.
Then we will see how attractive either are, long term.
The whole spectrum could shift with the Tories becoming the progressive party taking over from Labour, Reform becoming the mainstream right party taking over fro the Conservatives, and Restore becoming the new UKIP. The Lib Dems would remain as the party of none of the above.
Its a great night of #TOTP for Seventies soul. Better to draw a veil over the rest, though Ruby Flipper dancing in the drought stricken Blue Peter garden to Tubular Bells had a real Wicker Man vibe.
Mrs Foxy is on the Prosecco, I am working my way through a decent Crianza Rioja. Celebrating the engagement of Fox Jr and his lovely girlfriend while they are on a city break. Its only taken them ten years...
Mrs Foxy is on the Prosecco, I am working my way through a decent Crianza Rioja. Celebrating the engagement of Fox Jr and his lovely girlfriend while they are on a city break. Its only taken them ten years...
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
I never hafd you down as a Reeves apologist.
Every decade has its events. The GFC of 2007, Black Wednesday in the 90's, the fuel crises of the Seventies etc etc.
The fact is that GDP growth has been significantly below historic trend since 2016 points to one thing, and one obvious way to get back to historic growth rates.
Germany and France have been significantly below historic trend since 2016.
They lost us as a close trading partner. Brexit hurt them too!
Yes. The Brussels "punishment beating" mentality was dumb as a brick.
But it was a mentality that ensured we left, rather than have a grown up conversation to keep us onside.
Brexit happened because the EU were dicks.
I don't think either the EU or the UK came out of the Brexit negotiations with their reputations enhanced.
Oh, I absolutely agree.
But you only ever hear that Brexit was a disaster. The whole British relationship with Brussels - and the reaction by Brussels - was a diplomatic clusterfuck. By both sides.
But then Cameron with his "Little Englanders" toddler tantrum was a reaction to everyone saying his "renegotiation" was piss-poor. And probably moved enough people to say to him "well fuck you then".
Its a great night of #TOTP for Seventies soul. Better to draw a veil over the rest, though Ruby Flipper dancing in the drought stricken Blue Peter garden to Tubular Bells had a real Wicker Man vibe.
They're now playing 5000 Volts' "Dr Kiss Kiss". Playing keys on the single, but not appearing on Top of the Pops, was Geoff Downes, his first hit. He was later half of The Buggles ("Video Killed the Radio Star") and then arena rock band Asia (who had the best selling album of 1982 in the US).
Restore might have a significant impact on the Norfolk County Council elections once we finally get them. They should do extremely well in the Yarmouth area and their presence might make the rest of the county very unpredictable. Something I'll take a good look at once they've had some polling
Mrs Foxy is on the Prosecco, I am working my way through a decent Crianza Rioja. Celebrating the engagement of Fox Jr and his lovely girlfriend while they are on a city break. Its only taken them ten years...
So good to have some positive news on PB on a late Friday evening!!
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
There was a pretty big war for a lot of the 1940s and growth remained good. The Korean War in the '50s didn't hit growth either.
The 1968-9 Hong Kong flu pandemic also didn't hit growth, nor did the 1957-8 flu pandemic.
I'm not certain what this says, but wars and pandemics aren't a huge problem for decade growth stats.
We didn't close down most of the country for 18 months and pay for it all by borrowing for either of the flu pandemics.
The Korean war didn't stuff up energy supplies for half our continent.
WW2 we actually fought, which effectively meant running a whopping fiscal stimulus for 5 years, funded by flogging off our gold reserves and a load of long dated borrowing. It also resulted in loads of technological innovation (eg it probably resulted in working passenger jet aircraft arriving 10 years earlier than they otherwise would).
Restore might have a significant impact on the Norfolk County Council elections once we finally get them. They should do extremely well in the Yarmouth area and their presence might make the rest of the county very unpredictable. Something I'll take a good look at once they've had some polling
Hasn't he also set up a separate localist party called Great Yarmouth First?
We're supposed to have a dozen destroyers and over twenty frigates.
Not numbers of both that you can count on one hand, and all largely laid up in port for want of men, fuel, and funds as well.
No wonder we're a sitting duck.
Australia has a better equipped airforce than we do.
It's embarrassing.
We're an island nation and entirely dependent upon freedom of navigation of the seas.
This is utter negligence.
Will you forgive the Tories for getting us to that position?
Tedious, childish, partisan and unhelpful.
Governments of all stripes over the last 25 years own this and, in case you haven't been paying any fucking attention whatsoever, I ripped shreds out of the government at the time due to the 2010 defence review, and cancelled my membership over it.
I’m sorry for introducing partisanship to such an impartial chap as yourself, and for not remembering what you were busting a forehead vein over 16 years ago.
It’s partisan, but it’s an important point.
Defence is an area where the Conservatives all too often talk right, but act left. Ditto criminal justice, ditto immigration.
About the only conviction they had in office, over 14 years, was defending the economic interests of better off pensioners.
If Reform destroy them, I’ll shed no tears.
Goes back further than that.
Alan bloody Clark preened himself in his diaries for being the only man who could free up money for tax cuts via his defence review in 1990. OK, different global situation, but the impulse is the same.
Only question is whether Reform would do anything different.
Considering that most of the Reform MPs were frontbenchers in the government that buggerred Defence, Criminal Justice and immigration where should the smart money be?
I reckon a few months in PM Farage will make Starmer's and Truss's popularity ratings look good.
Farage will never make it to PM. The insurgents will start peeling off to Restore and then the Tories will start going home. Filling Reform with the Boris cabinet will be the beginning of the end
Restore gettig 5-6% should be enough to see Reform going under the Tories.
Then we will see how attractive either are, long term.
The whole spectrum could shift with the Tories becoming the progressive party taking over from Labour, Reform becoming the mainstream right party taking over fro the Conservatives, and Restore becoming the new UKIP. The Lib Dems would remain as the party of none of the above.
Hardly, the Tories are economically right of Reform on many issues not just Labour and the Greens are the most 'progressive' socialist and culturally woke party
Restore might have a significant impact on the Norfolk County Council elections once we finally get them. They should do extremely well in the Yarmouth area and their presence might make the rest of the county very unpredictable. Something I'll take a good look at once they've had some polling
Hasn't he also set up a separate localist party called Great Yarmouth First?
Yes, he has. He said something about it being a trial run/proof of concept type thing but he's launching Restore in Yarmouth so I imagine it will all roll in together soon enough
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
Restore might have a significant impact on the Norfolk County Council elections once we finally get them. They should do extremely well in the Yarmouth area and their presence might make the rest of the county very unpredictable. Something I'll take a good look at once they've had some polling
Hasn't he also set up a separate localist party called Great Yarmouth First?
Yes, he has. He said something about it being a trial run/proof of concept type thing but he's launching Restore in Yarmouth so I imagine it will all roll in together soon enough
Restore Britain will be the 'umbrella' party at the top allied with local movements etc under it's banner. Sounds like the Your Party concept of alliance of various groups under a parent organisation actually. Rupert will be running as a 'Restore/GY First' in 2029 he says
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
There was a pretty big war for a lot of the 1940s and growth remained good. The Korean War in the '50s didn't hit growth either.
The 1968-9 Hong Kong flu pandemic also didn't hit growth, nor did the 1957-8 flu pandemic.
I'm not certain what this says, but wars and pandemics aren't a huge problem for decade growth stats.
Looked at like that the Thatcher/Major years don't look too impressive either do they?
That page also has inflation falling from 19% in 1979 to less than 5% in 1997.
Real disposable income also rose significantly from 1980 to 1997
It's appears to be Real GDP per capita, so adjusted for inflation What it would appear to show is that mechanization had a far greater productivity boost than computerization
Restore might have a significant impact on the Norfolk County Council elections once we finally get them. They should do extremely well in the Yarmouth area and their presence might make the rest of the county very unpredictable. Something I'll take a good look at once they've had some polling
Hasn't he also set up a separate localist party called Great Yarmouth First?
"This is a Local Party for Local People. There's nothing for YOU here!"
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
There was a pretty big war for a lot of the 1940s and growth remained good. The Korean War in the '50s didn't hit growth either.
The 1968-9 Hong Kong flu pandemic also didn't hit growth, nor did the 1957-8 flu pandemic.
I'm not certain what this says, but wars and pandemics aren't a huge problem for decade growth stats.
Looked at like that the Thatcher/Major years don't look too impressive either do they?
Given that was the oil revenue boom period that's an understatement
The other thing worth noting is that the peak wave of EU8 migration correlates with a high rate of GDP percapita growth, indeed the best decade in the last half century.
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
There was a pretty big war for a lot of the 1940s and growth remained good. The Korean War in the '50s didn't hit growth either.
The 1968-9 Hong Kong flu pandemic also didn't hit growth, nor did the 1957-8 flu pandemic.
I'm not certain what this says, but wars and pandemics aren't a huge problem for decade growth stats.
So to sum up your per capita growth stats:
Things started off pretty good with double digit growth each post war decade until the end of the 1970s. Then we had three decades out of four with more miserly growth. The miserly growth was in the 80s, 90s, and 2010s, all but 3 years in those decades taking place under Conservative governments. That was followed by the first 5 years of the 2020s where things went into reverse with negative growth, every year bar one of those also being under Conservative governments. The decade which bucked the trend and saw a return to double digit growth was the 2000s, all 10 of those years taking place with Labour governments.
It doesn't say a lot for the post 1979 public sector-slashing austerity of Thatcherite/Major/Cameron/Osborne etc, does it?
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
There was a pretty big war for a lot of the 1940s and growth remained good. The Korean War in the '50s didn't hit growth either.
The 1968-9 Hong Kong flu pandemic also didn't hit growth, nor did the 1957-8 flu pandemic.
I'm not certain what this says, but wars and pandemics aren't a huge problem for decade growth stats.
Looked at like that the Thatcher/Major years don't look too impressive either do they?
Given that was the oil revenue boom period that's an understatement
The other thing worth noting is that the peak wave of EU8 migration correlates with a high rate of GDP percapita growth, indeed the best decade in the last half century.
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
Those are not per capita but we do know that the 1950s and 1960s had high population growth, the 1970s to the 1990s had low population growth and the 2000s and 2010s had high population growth.
Sir Keir Starmer will claim on Saturday that Reform UK and the Greens are ideological extremists who would undermine Britain’s national security and make war in Europe more likely
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
Those are not per capita but we do know that the 1950s and 1960s had high population growth, the 1970s to the 1990s had low population growth and the 2000s and 2010s had high population growth.
Here are some GDP per capita, adjusted for inflation, in 2013 GBP:
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
Those are not per capita but we do know that the 1950s and 1960s had high population growth, the 1970s to the 1990s had low population growth and the 2000s and 2010s had high population growth.
Here are some GDP per capita, adjusted for inflation, in 2013 GBP:
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
There was a pretty big war for a lot of the 1940s and growth remained good. The Korean War in the '50s didn't hit growth either.
The 1968-9 Hong Kong flu pandemic also didn't hit growth, nor did the 1957-8 flu pandemic.
I'm not certain what this says, but wars and pandemics aren't a huge problem for decade growth stats.
Looked at like that the Thatcher/Major years don't look too impressive either do they?
Given that was the oil revenue boom period that's an understatement
The other thing worth noting is that the peak wave of EU8 migration correlates with a high rate of GDP percapita growth, indeed the best decade in the last half century.
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
There was a pretty big war for a lot of the 1940s and growth remained good. The Korean War in the '50s didn't hit growth either.
The 1968-9 Hong Kong flu pandemic also didn't hit growth, nor did the 1957-8 flu pandemic.
I'm not certain what this says, but wars and pandemics aren't a huge problem for decade growth stats.
Looked at like that the Thatcher/Major years don't look too impressive either do they?
Given that was the oil revenue boom period that's an understatement
The other thing worth noting is that the peak wave of EU8 migration correlates with a high rate of GDP percapita growth, indeed the best decade in the last half century.
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
Those are not per capita but we do know that the 1950s and 1960s had high population growth, the 1970s to the 1990s had low population growth and the 2000s and 2010s had high population growth.
Here are some GDP per capita, adjusted for inflation, in 2013 GBP:
Restore might have a significant impact on the Norfolk County Council elections once we finally get them. They should do extremely well in the Yarmouth area and their presence might make the rest of the county very unpredictable. Something I'll take a good look at once they've had some polling
Hasn't he also set up a separate localist party called Great Yarmouth First?
Yes, he has. He said something about it being a trial run/proof of concept type thing but he's launching Restore in Yarmouth so I imagine it will all roll in together soon enough
Restore Britain will be the 'umbrella' party at the top allied with local movements etc under it's banner. Sounds like the Your Party concept of alliance of various groups under a parent organisation actually. Rupert will be running as a 'Restore/GY First' in 2029 he says
That could a be a good strategy... get people to sign up for the inoccuous-sounding local group and they find they have endorsed the fascist party by default. In fact many people interested in the local aspect might not look that closely into Restore
I think it works to Farage's advantage to have Lowe in a separate vehicle to his right because Lowe can test the limits of the Overton window without Farage risking his own brand.
I don't often praise the foreign policy of our southern neighbours but fair play to France's foreign minister Barrot, speaking with some moral clarity and calling for the resignation of Francesca Albanese at the UN.
SCOOP! The U.S. military is preparing for the possibility of sustained, weeks-long operations against Iran if President Donald Trump orders an attack. I'll post a link once it's up online. w/@idreesali114
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
There was a pretty big war for a lot of the 1940s and growth remained good. The Korean War in the '50s didn't hit growth either.
The 1968-9 Hong Kong flu pandemic also didn't hit growth, nor did the 1957-8 flu pandemic.
I'm not certain what this says, but wars and pandemics aren't a huge problem for decade growth stats.
Looked at like that the Thatcher/Major years don't look too impressive either do they?
Given that was the oil revenue boom period that's an understatement
The other thing worth noting is that the peak wave of EU8 migration correlates with a high rate of GDP percapita growth, indeed the best decade in the last half century.
It's funny how the different sources all disagree with each other to some extent.
OWID, who I generally trust, have no economic growth per capita at all between 1940 and 1949. The numbers @another_richard posted earlier had just 11%. Economicshelp has 15%.
If I were to guess, I'd probably go for the the highest number; simply because it seems to me extraordinary that British GDP didn't rise during WW2 when there was full employment (and it was genuinely full employment, with almost everybody -irrespective of sex or age- working) and massive deficit spending. Now, sure, production of lots of things stopped. But then again, production of many others things absolutely went through the roof.
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
There was a pretty big war for a lot of the 1940s and growth remained good. The Korean War in the '50s didn't hit growth either.
The 1968-9 Hong Kong flu pandemic also didn't hit growth, nor did the 1957-8 flu pandemic.
I'm not certain what this says, but wars and pandemics aren't a huge problem for decade growth stats.
Looked at like that the Thatcher/Major years don't look too impressive either do they?
Given that was the oil revenue boom period that's an understatement
The other thing worth noting is that the peak wave of EU8 migration correlates with a high rate of GDP percapita growth, indeed the best decade in the last half century.
It's funny how the different sources all disagree with each other to some extent.
OWID, who I generally trust, have no economic growth per capita at all between 1940 and 1949. The numbers @another_richard posted earlier had just 11%. Economicshelp has 15%.
If I were to guess, I'd probably go for the the highest number; simply because it seems to me extraordinary that British GDP didn't rise during WW2 when there was full employment (and it was genuinely full employment, with almost everybody -irrespective of sex or age- working) and massive deficit spending. Now, sure, production of lots of things stopped. But then again, production of many others things absolutely went through the roof.
Those are not per capita but we do know that the 1950s and 1960s had high population growth, the 1970s to the 1990s had low population growth and the 2000s and 2010s had high population growth.
Yes the Resolution Foundation numbers are completely wrong. Your numbers are right according to the ONS.
Don't forget that the Resolution Foundation are the most left-wing of the mainstream think tanks. Many of their alumni are currently working as ministers or SPADs in the current disaster of a government so they will of course do their utmost to discredit the Thatcher and Major governments, knowing that few people will bother to check their figures.
In terms of growth per capita per annum (geometric average), the correct numbers are as follows:
The true figures show the exact opposite of what the Resolution Foundation obviously wanted to show: we can see the dismal failure of the Blairite policies pursued by New Labour and the Heirs to Blair Conservative governments since 1997.
Who'd have thought that repeatedly screwing over the private sector to shovel resources to an inefficient, unproductive public sector and its associated hangers on as we have since Brown got his feet under the table isn't the way to generate economic growth?
He's probably been correctly advised that the best way to shore up his position is to give head to the EU.
The best way to ensure Europe and our strategic and economic futures is cooperation. That you don't like Starmer is irrelevant.
I didn't say anything about Starmer.
I'm fine with doing deals in our interests with our neighbours; I'm not with being a supplicant.
Brexit ensured that.
Oh God, you're such a dick.
If you go into every negotiation believing that then, duh, unsurprisingly the other side will cream you, because it will take advantage of your confirmation bias. It will laugh at you, and then make it happen. Because it's massively in theirs interests, and easy.
Now, of course, you'll say that's because it is weak. But that's bollocks. We are a highly advanced economy and one of the Big Three and have big advantages that the EU needs.
There's plenty of scope for equitable deals. We need to work together. You just have to know your own negotiating position and strengths, and then you can get to win-win trade deals.
I know it pains you to hear it, but the EU isn't that strong. It's a bunch of French and German farmers and conglomerates who can't innovate, can't defend themselves and are as effete as an egg souffle.
You need to fucking get over what happened 10 years ago, and generally stop being such a twat.
Brexit made both Europe and us weaker. But the EU is still a market comparable in size to the US. As for can't innovate, how many biotechs have become pharmas worth billions in the UK in the last thirty years ? Zero. How many manufacturing companies essential to the world chip industry do we have ? Whose nuclear reactor design are we building (at nearly double the cost they've done) ?
The electorate agrees with me, not you. You can tell them they need to fucking get over it and stop being twats if you want, but good luck with that electoral pitch.
The fact that GDP growth's worst decade in a century is congrous to the decade of Brexit is not a co-incidence.
Sunlit uplands hey?
You may have noticed a pandemic and a war in the last decade too?
There was a pretty big war for a lot of the 1940s and growth remained good. The Korean War in the '50s didn't hit growth either.
The 1968-9 Hong Kong flu pandemic also didn't hit growth, nor did the 1957-8 flu pandemic.
I'm not certain what this says, but wars and pandemics aren't a huge problem for decade growth stats.
Looked at like that the Thatcher/Major years don't look too impressive either do they?
Given that was the oil revenue boom period that's an understatement
The other thing worth noting is that the peak wave of EU8 migration correlates with a high rate of GDP percapita growth, indeed the best decade in the last half century.
It's funny how the different sources all disagree with each other to some extent.
OWID, who I generally trust, have no economic growth per capita at all between 1940 and 1949. The numbers @another_richard posted earlier had just 11%. Economicshelp has 15%.
If I were to guess, I'd probably go for the the highest number; simply because it seems to me extraordinary that British GDP didn't rise during WW2 when there was full employment (and it was genuinely full employment, with almost everybody -irrespective of sex or age- working) and massive deficit spending. Now, sure, production of lots of things stopped. But then again, production of many others things absolutely went through the roof.
But I could also be wrong.
It's far from unknown.
So a bit like Russia today?
Well yes- if you read the Russian statistics one way, you get very positive economic numbers. However, drill down and basically they are spending decades of seed corn for a death toll in the hundreds of thousands. The scale of the disaster is now so terrible that Russia is almost beyond recovery. The name of Putin will be cursed, probably even more than the name of Trump.
Sir Keir Starmer will claim on Saturday that Reform UK and the Greens are ideological extremists who would undermine Britain’s national security and make war in Europe more likely
Sir Keir Starmer will claim on Saturday that Reform UK and the Greens are ideological extremists who would undermine Britain’s national security and make war in Europe more likely
Could someone explain to him that there already is a war in Europe?
Sir Keir Starmer will claim on Saturday that Reform UK and the Greens are ideological extremists who would undermine Britain’s national security and make war in Europe more likely
Could someone explain to him that there already is a war in Europe?
He means proper Europe not Camporum Desertorum vulgo Ukraina.
Sir Keir Starmer will claim on Saturday that Reform UK and the Greens are ideological extremists who would undermine Britain’s national security and make war in Europe more likely
Could someone explain to him that there already is a war in Europe?
He means proper Europe not Camporum Desertorum vulgo Ukraina.
New to me. Apparently also, for a time, much of it part of the Serenissima Res Publica Poloniae.
"Re-store, Re-form, Re-package Re-evaluate the policies Meet and greet with a photograph Leader's signature and a tacky badge"
Re-form, Re-store, re-treads...
We'll wait for Liz Truss to launch Retard...
...followed by a party called "Pull Up, Pull Up", then another one called "Terrain, Terrain", then the reconstruction on "Mayday" with the CGI as it hits the trees...
It doesn't affect me at all, but accepting as a premise he's been a good mayor, would anyone still be a good for a fourth term?
Depends on the opposition I suppose, but the risk of getting tired and set in your ways, good and bad, surely increases the longer someone is in position.
With individual MPs it's less of an issue because unless you hold another post, like being a minister, you aren't making or drivign decision-making.
FDR would have been good imo, had he lived.
Definitely it is possible, though I think it would be rare. The same way a 23 year old PM or an 80 year old PM can indeed work, although the average 23/80 year old would face skepticism.
A good current example of that is what has happened to Reform's 19-22 year old County Council Leaders and Cabinet Members.
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Join the local Party and sit in a room full of Linda Bellos lookalikes
Alan bloody Clark preened himself in his diaries for being the only man who could free up money for tax cuts via his defence review in 1990. OK, different global situation, but the impulse is the same.
Only question is whether Reform would do anything different.
"Re-store, Re-form, Re-package
Re-evaluate the policies
Meet and greet with a photograph
Leader's signature and a tacky badge"
I reckon a few months in PM Farage will make Starmer's and Truss's popularity ratings look good.
I've long since learned to brush off your occasional bouts of random invective substituting for argument.
You're capable of better, though.
It seems bizarre to me that Reform are leading the polls with Farage + a load of Tories who were thrown out last time, whereas Kemi is a popular leader but dragged back by the party being so unpopular due to 2010-2024.
If the current Tories were called Reform, and Reform were called the Conservative Party I think Badenoch's Party would be leading the polls
The insurgents will start peeling off to Restore and then the Tories will start going home.
Filling Reform with the Boris cabinet will be the beginning of the end
Starmer has none of that. What he wants is purely political - a rapprochment to make the pain of Brexit go away. Walking away is impossible, because he needs something politically, and to walk away, even to be firm, would be a Tory approach and therefore unacceptable. The EU sees him coming a mile away. He is utterly useless in any foreign policy scenario.
1930s: 1%
1940s: 15%
1950s: 19%
1960s: 16%
1970s: 12%
1980s: 6%
1990s: 5%
2000s: 11%
2010s: 7%
2020-5: -1%
There was a pretty big war for a lot of the 1940s and growth remained good. The Korean War in the '50s didn't hit growth either.
The 1968-9 Hong Kong flu pandemic also didn't hit growth, nor did the 1957-8 flu pandemic.
I'm not certain what this says, but wars and pandemics aren't a huge problem for decade growth stats.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.KD.ZG?locations=DE
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.KD.ZG?locations=FR
They shouldn't have Brexited either then?
Sloppy. 2/10
Then we will see how attractive either are, long term.
If you learn not to be a dick, then maybe you won't get it back.
Gentle tip.
Tbf Restore might nick a couple % off the Tories too but long term its the beginning of the end of project Nigel PM
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But it was a mentality that ensured we left, rather than have a grown up conversation to keep us onside.
Brexit happened because the EU were dicks.
In a general election, Reform aren't going to get 30%. Nowhere close.
Advance will almost certainly fold in to Restore (Habib has said as much)
Lowe represents what the insurgent Reform vote/radical Reform want
Farage/Reform are now basically the Tories from Paterson to the Truss mini budget
5% is very achievable
Release an army of Keith Josephs
One can’t be too hasty.
youngcouple!But you only ever hear that Brexit was a disaster. The whole British relationship with Brussels - and the reaction by Brussels - was a diplomatic clusterfuck. By both sides.
But then Cameron with his "Little Englanders" toddler tantrum was a reaction to everyone saying his "renegotiation" was piss-poor. And probably moved enough people to say to him "well fuck you then".
They're now playing 5000 Volts' "Dr Kiss Kiss". Playing keys on the single, but not appearing on Top of the Pops, was Geoff Downes, his first hit. He was later half of The Buggles ("Video Killed the Radio Star") and then arena rock band Asia (who had the best selling album of 1982 in the US).
Something I'll take a good look at once they've had some polling
The Korean war didn't stuff up energy supplies for half our continent.
WW2 we actually fought, which effectively meant running a whopping fiscal stimulus for 5 years, funded by flogging off our gold reserves and a load of long dated borrowing. It also resulted in loads of technological innovation (eg it probably resulted in working passenger jet aircraft arriving 10 years earlier than they otherwise would).
Real disposable income also rose significantly from 1980 to 1997
Sounds like the Your Party concept of alliance of various groups under a parent organisation actually.
Rupert will be running as a 'Restore/GY First' in 2029 he says
What it would appear to show is that mechanization had a far greater productivity boost than computerization
Time to turn in. Mrs Foxy looking a bit sozzled.
Things started off pretty good with double digit growth each post war decade until the end of the 1970s.
Then we had three decades out of four with more miserly growth.
The miserly growth was in the 80s, 90s, and 2010s, all but 3 years in those decades taking place under Conservative governments.
That was followed by the first 5 years of the 2020s where things went into reverse with negative growth, every year bar one of those also being under Conservative governments.
The decade which bucked the trend and saw a return to double digit growth was the 2000s, all 10 of those years taking place with Labour governments.
It doesn't say a lot for the post 1979 public sector-slashing austerity of Thatcherite/Major/Cameron/Osborne etc, does it?
She should be drinking proper British booze.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/grossdomesticproductgdp/timeseries/abmi/pn2
Which give per decade:
1949-1959 36%
1959-1969 40%
1969-1979 29%
1979-1989 29%
1989-1999 23%
1999-2009 18%
2009-2019 21%
Those are not per capita but we do know that the 1950s and 1960s had high population growth, the 1970s to the 1990s had low population growth and the 2000s and 2010s had high population growth.
Sir Keir Starmer will claim on Saturday that Reform UK and the Greens are ideological extremists who would undermine Britain’s national security and make war in Europe more likely
1929 £5,516
1939 £6,435 +16%
1949 £7,098 +10%
1959 £9,350 +31%
1969 £12,225 +30%
1979 £15,323 +25%
1989 £19,863 +29%
1999 £23,754 +19%
2009 £26,453 +11%
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/gdp-per-capita-in-the-uk-since-1270
https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/2022430243592765584
Patrick English
@PME_Politics
When reading through this thread, little alarms were ringing off for me saying “this feels like analysis of public opinion via focus groups”.
Sure enough - that’s what it turns out to be.
It’s a misplaced phenomenon which has gripped many a political strategists for some time.
https://x.com/PME_Politics/status/2022430247766134992
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/gdp-per-capita-in-the-uk-since-1270?time=1940..latest
Constant GDP per capita for the UK in 2010 USD:
1960 15,323
1969 19,085 +24% (only 9 years)
1979 23,930 +25%
1989 29928 +25%
1999 39,297 +26%
2009 42,762 +11%
2019 47,864 +13%
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/NYGDPPCAPKDGBR
@tomhfh
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In opposition the right is discovering the same problem the left has condensed with for decades.
Splits.
Many Conservatives and Reformers will agree with every word Rupert Lowe says here.
The only question is how does this all work under FPTP?
https://x.com/tomhfh/status/2022437953436627371
https://x.com/HillelNeuer/status/2021659083237916905
Any chance someone from our government displaying this kind of fortitude?
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OWID, who I generally trust, have no economic growth per capita at all between 1940 and 1949. The numbers @another_richard posted earlier had just 11%. Economicshelp has 15%.
If I were to guess, I'd probably go for the the highest number; simply because it seems to me extraordinary that British GDP didn't rise during WW2 when there was full employment (and it was genuinely full employment, with almost everybody -irrespective of sex or age- working) and massive deficit spending. Now, sure, production of lots of things stopped. But then again, production of many others things absolutely went through the roof.
But I could also be wrong.
It's far from unknown.
Don't forget that the Resolution Foundation are the most left-wing of the mainstream think tanks. Many of their alumni are currently working as ministers or SPADs in the current disaster of a government so they will of course do their utmost to discredit the Thatcher and Major governments, knowing that few people will bother to check their figures.
In terms of growth per capita per annum (geometric average), the correct numbers are as follows:
60s - 2.8%
70s - 2.4%
80s - 2.7%
90s - 1.8%
00s - 1.1%
10s - 1.3%
20-24 - 0.0%
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/grossdomesticproductgdp/timeseries/n3y6/ukea
The true figures show the exact opposite of what the Resolution Foundation obviously wanted to show: we can see the dismal failure of the Blairite policies pursued by New Labour and the Heirs to Blair Conservative governments since 1997.
Who'd have thought that repeatedly screwing over the private sector to shovel resources to an inefficient, unproductive public sector and its associated hangers on as we have since Brown got his feet under the table isn't the way to generate economic growth?