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Reform voters face a lonely future, being a Starmer or Davey supporter gets you dates

SystemSystem Posts: 12,946
edited February 13 in General
Reform voters face a lonely future, being a Starmer or Davey supporter gets you dates– politicalbetting.com

Brits would find it most difficult to be in a relationship with someone who supported Reform UK (40%).They would find it easiest to be in a relationship with someone who supported the Greens (40%), Labour (39%) or the Lib Dems (36%) ?

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  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 6,017
    Yes, it's like an approval proxy.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,629
    edited February 13
    First (date)?
    No, second.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 6,017
    algarkirk said:

    First (date)?

    That must've been a photo finish.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,996
    Reform are now a dead duck. Why vote reform when you can vote for Kemi Badenoch?
  • Bloody autocorrect, it has turned 'laid' into 'dates'.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,566
    This is just a proxy for age. People saying that they'd date a Polanski supporter are really expressing a preference for someone young and immature.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,629
    Roses are red
    Violets are Blue
    I don't like Farage/Trump
    So I don't like you.

    :/

    Happy Valentine.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 86,343
    Leon, FPT.
    Yes unfortunately.

    Something like half of S Korea's population travels home to celebrate Seollal.
    https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/photos/photonews/20260213/photos-lunar-new-year-travel-begins

    Don't know about Taiwan, but S Korea is still open for tourism.

    Korea eyes record influx of Chinese tourists during extended Lunar New Year break
    https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/lifestyle/travel-food/20260211/korea-eyes-record-influx-of-chinese-tourists-during-extended-lunar-new-year-break

  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,532
    Oh god. Whatever your politics this is sad

    “British Muslims feel increasingly unwelcome and unsafe, census shows”

    https://x.com/thecanaryuk/status/2022326031516848341?s=4

    It seems that many UK Muslims feel increasingly unsafe, with large minorities planning to leave

    This is disastrous. What can we do?!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 86,343

    Bloody autocorrect, it has turned 'laid' into 'dates'.

    They didn't poll on that, though.
    Did they ... ?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 86,343

    This is just a proxy for age. People saying that they'd date a Polanski supporter are really expressing a preference for someone young and immature.

    What about the Starmer ones then ?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,130
    ((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    24m
    Sources in several parties starting to point to some strange betting patterns around Gorton and Denton. Greens odds have been shortening all week. But that's not reflecting what anyone is picking up on the ground.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/2022344260226634167
  • eekeek Posts: 32,584
    Leon said:

    Oh god. Whatever your politics this is sad

    “British Muslims feel increasingly unwelcome and unsafe, census shows”

    https://x.com/thecanaryuk/status/2022326031516848341?s=4

    It seems that many UK Muslims feel increasingly unsafe, with large minorities planning to leave

    This is disastrous. What can we do?!

    And yet you posted this about Muslim men earlier today
    Leon said:

    The Reform vote is not going to subside. Why? Because we’ve now let in sufficient unvetted young men from patriarchal, misogynistic, primitive Muslim societies the rate of sexual offences is going to surge

    So the new policy question will be How do we kick them out

    Only Reform look remotely capable of addressing that (and I doubt they have the backbone to see it through)

    You can't have it both ways...
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 86,343
    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Oh god. Whatever your politics this is sad

    “British Muslims feel increasingly unwelcome and unsafe, census shows”

    https://x.com/thecanaryuk/status/2022326031516848341?s=4

    It seems that many UK Muslims feel increasingly unsafe, with large minorities planning to leave

    This is disastrous. What can we do?!

    And yet you posted this about Muslim men earlier today
    Leon said:

    The Reform vote is not going to subside. Why? Because we’ve now let in sufficient unvetted young men from patriarchal, misogynistic, primitive Muslim societies the rate of sexual offences is going to surge

    So the new policy question will be How do we kick them out

    Only Reform look remotely capable of addressing that (and I doubt they have the backbone to see it through)

    You can't have it both ways...
    I don't think you're picking up Leon's irony,
    The islamophobia is entirely consistent.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,076
    Afternoon all :)

    A curious experience - the man at one of the local corner shops has just told me you will need a UK Passport to get benefits from now on.

    Is this right? Some might say "too right, me old china" while others might take a more nuanced view.

    I must confess I've never given it much thought - I assume for instance those with ILDR or with settled status (as EU citizens) can apply for such benefits. I don't know how many of my Tamil neighbours from South India or Sri Lanka hold UK passports in addition to their country of birth.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,770
    Reform voters are all wankers anyway so they'll be fine.
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,416

    ((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    24m
    Sources in several parties starting to point to some strange betting patterns around Gorton and Denton. Greens odds have been shortening all week. But that's not reflecting what anyone is picking up on the ground.

    https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/2022344260226634167

    Are they strange or are they just reflective of different populations?
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,732
    There's still quite a large pool of people for them to get together with who vote Reform like they do.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,915
    Leon said:

    Oh god. Whatever your politics this is sad

    “British Muslims feel increasingly unwelcome and unsafe, census shows”

    https://x.com/thecanaryuk/status/2022326031516848341?s=4

    It seems that many UK Muslims feel increasingly unsafe, with large minorities planning to leave

    This is disastrous. What can we do?!

    Watch this and understand. 👍

    https://x.com/niohberg/status/2022115982496657681?s=61
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,829
    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Oh god. Whatever your politics this is sad

    “British Muslims feel increasingly unwelcome and unsafe, census shows”

    https://x.com/thecanaryuk/status/2022326031516848341?s=4

    It seems that many UK Muslims feel increasingly unsafe, with large minorities planning to leave

    This is disastrous. What can we do?!

    And yet you posted this about Muslim men earlier today
    Leon said:

    The Reform vote is not going to subside. Why? Because we’ve now let in sufficient unvetted young men from patriarchal, misogynistic, primitive Muslim societies the rate of sexual offences is going to surge

    So the new policy question will be How do we kick them out

    Only Reform look remotely capable of addressing that (and I doubt they have the backbone to see it through)

    You can't have it both ways...
    Methinks you missed the nuance of his comment
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,732
    stodge said:

    Afternoon all :)

    A curious experience - the man at one of the local corner shops has just told me you will need a UK Passport to get benefits from now on.

    Is this right? Some might say "too right, me old china" while others might take a more nuanced view.

    I must confess I've never given it much thought - I assume for instance those with ILDR or with settled status (as EU citizens) can apply for such benefits. I don't know how many of my Tamil neighbours from South India or Sri Lanka hold UK passports in addition to their country of birth.

    Quite a number of people on benefits don't have a passport. If they've never been abroad, why would they?
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,718
    stodge said:

    Afternoon all :)

    A curious experience - the man at one of the local corner shops has just told me you will need a UK Passport to get benefits from now on.

    Is this right? Some might say "too right, me old china" while others might take a more nuanced view.

    I must confess I've never given it much thought - I assume for instance those with ILDR or with settled status (as EU citizens) can apply for such benefits. I don't know how many of my Tamil neighbours from South India or Sri Lanka hold UK passports in addition to their country of birth.

    Quite a lot of 'native Brits' haven't got a passport. Mine, for example, has expired and as I think it highly unlikely to be fit enough to travel outside UK I've not renewed it.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,829
    stodge said:

    Afternoon all :)

    A curious experience - the man at one of the local corner shops has just told me you will need a UK Passport to get benefits from now on.

    Is this right? Some might say "too right, me old china" while others might take a more nuanced view.

    I must confess I've never given it much thought - I assume for instance those with ILDR or with settled status (as EU citizens) can apply for such benefits. I don't know how many of my Tamil neighbours from South India or Sri Lanka hold UK passports in addition to their country of birth.

    Sounds a sensible idea.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,076
    Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere but an interesting post script to the ousting of Sussan Ley by Angus Taylor as Liberal Party leader in Australia:

    https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/handsome-sum-to-follow-leys-exit-as-pauline-hanson-reveals-her-pitch-to-the-voters-of-farrar/news-story/7ac89f93ae910d625ad569d2c547f3ef

    It appears Ley is going to quit Parliament and force a by-election in her Farrar seat which Pauline Hanson's One Nation will be fighting hard.

    It's an interesting thought - what if an ousted leader had to resign his or her seat so a by-election in Finchley in early 1991 or in Chingford in early 2004 or what about South West Norfolk in late 2022?
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 6,017
    edited February 13
    viewcode said:

    The comment trail Pt 3 looks like this

    Sweeney74 Posts: 90 2:15PM
    https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5455039/#Comment_5455039

    Since we've been chatting AI recently, I thought I would see what my GPT had to say on the subject:

    Under UK law, sitting in the middle lane when lane 1 is clear is usually treated as careless driving, also known as driving without due care and attention under Section 3 of the Road Traffic Act 1988. The Highway Code is not law by itself, but it does reflect legal duties. Rule 264 says: You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. That “should” means it is advisory guidance. But ignoring it without good reason can be used as evidence of careless driving.

    [snip]

    LostPassword Posts: 22,429 2:15PM
    https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5455040/#Comment_5455040

    Indeed - do this thing, unless there's a compelling unstated reason not to do so. For example, I've sometimes delayed pulling back over to lane 1 when approaching a slip lane merging from a junction. That's a sensible, and temporary, exception to the should.

    I know, I'm carrying on a driving discussion.

    On not moving back left being careless, remember the leeway you have. On the chevrons you should be a distance of two full chevrons from the car in front, that is, when chevron #1 becomes visible behind them, you should still be behind chevron #3.

    Moving out to overtake and moving back should also occur a minimum of the full two chevrons back and two chevrons in front respectively, and that would also apply if you are within 2 chevrons in the direction of travel from a merging car.

    That is a considerable amount of leeway, you don't have to act like you're on an empty European toll motorway where, as soon as you are one centimeter clear on an overtake, a car automagically appears behind you going 80km/h faster and flashing its lights.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,829

    stodge said:

    Afternoon all :)

    A curious experience - the man at one of the local corner shops has just told me you will need a UK Passport to get benefits from now on.

    Is this right? Some might say "too right, me old china" while others might take a more nuanced view.

    I must confess I've never given it much thought - I assume for instance those with ILDR or with settled status (as EU citizens) can apply for such benefits. I don't know how many of my Tamil neighbours from South India or Sri Lanka hold UK passports in addition to their country of birth.

    Quite a lot of 'native Brits' haven't got a passport. Mine, for example, has expired and as I think it highly unlikely to be fit enough to travel outside UK I've not renewed it.
    Good money maker for government , but only if you need to claim benefits so misses out majority.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,829
    AnneJGP said:

    stodge said:

    Afternoon all :)

    A curious experience - the man at one of the local corner shops has just told me you will need a UK Passport to get benefits from now on.

    Is this right? Some might say "too right, me old china" while others might take a more nuanced view.

    I must confess I've never given it much thought - I assume for instance those with ILDR or with settled status (as EU citizens) can apply for such benefits. I don't know how many of my Tamil neighbours from South India or Sri Lanka hold UK passports in addition to their country of birth.

    Quite a number of people on benefits don't have a passport. If they've never been abroad, why would they?
    First time for everything
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,076
    malcolmg said:

    stodge said:

    Afternoon all :)

    A curious experience - the man at one of the local corner shops has just told me you will need a UK Passport to get benefits from now on.

    Is this right? Some might say "too right, me old china" while others might take a more nuanced view.

    I must confess I've never given it much thought - I assume for instance those with ILDR or with settled status (as EU citizens) can apply for such benefits. I don't know how many of my Tamil neighbours from South India or Sri Lanka hold UK passports in addition to their country of birth.

    Sounds a sensible idea.
    As others have pointed out, there's no requirement for a British-born person to own a passport unless they travel abroad. Are you suggesting anyone who hasn't travelled abroad shouldn't have access to any benefits so a 67-year old who has always been in Britain all his or her life would be denied a pension?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,566
    Nigelb said:

    This is just a proxy for age. People saying that they'd date a Polanski supporter are really expressing a preference for someone young and immature.

    What about the Starmer ones then ?
    Masochists.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,829
    Taz said:

    Leon said:

    Oh god. Whatever your politics this is sad

    “British Muslims feel increasingly unwelcome and unsafe, census shows”

    https://x.com/thecanaryuk/status/2022326031516848341?s=4

    It seems that many UK Muslims feel increasingly unsafe, with large minorities planning to leave

    This is disastrous. What can we do?!

    Watch this and understand. 👍

    https://x.com/niohberg/status/2022115982496657681?s=61
    Seen some crap propaganda but that one takes the biscuit
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,130
    John McTernan's ten ideas to save Starmer's premiership.

    Including HS2 to the North. Yes to that from me.

    And this:

    "Remember, none of the errors that have cut Labour’s support were in the manifesto."



    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/11/keir-starmer-grip-government-10-point-plan
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 86,343
    MAGA Matt.

    Reform by-election candidate calls for ‘young girls’ to be given ‘biological reality’ check

    Matt Goodwin argued ‘young girls’ should be explained ‘the biological reality’ that ‘many women in Britain are having children much too late in life’

    https://x.com/reformexposed/status/2021987681492709524
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,532
    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Oh god. Whatever your politics this is sad

    “British Muslims feel increasingly unwelcome and unsafe, census shows”

    https://x.com/thecanaryuk/status/2022326031516848341?s=4

    It seems that many UK Muslims feel increasingly unsafe, with large minorities planning to leave

    This is disastrous. What can we do?!

    And yet you posted this about Muslim men earlier today
    Leon said:

    The Reform vote is not going to subside. Why? Because we’ve now let in sufficient unvetted young men from patriarchal, misogynistic, primitive Muslim societies the rate of sexual offences is going to surge

    So the new policy question will be How do we kick them out

    Only Reform look remotely capable of addressing that (and I doubt they have the backbone to see it through)

    You can't have it both ways...
    What can I say. Events have overwhelmed me

    This shocking survey showing that Muslims may actually leave the UK en masse put everything in a new perspective

    What if they all go??? It doesn’t bear thinking about. It’s HORRIFIC
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,915

    John McTernan's ten ideas to save Starmer's premiership.

    Including HS2 to the North. Yes to that from me.

    And this:

    "Remember, none of the errors that have cut Labour’s support were in the manifesto."



    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/11/keir-starmer-grip-government-10-point-plan

    Didn’t he used to be relevant.

    Little he says there will help.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,893
    FPT - re BBC "cuts".

    The Licence Fee rises by CPI on 1 April 2026 from £174.50 to £180.

    Then it rises again on 1 April 2027 in line with CPI.

    The number of TV licences in force is falling steadily by about 1% per year.

    So BBC cash from LF will continue to rise - if CPI is 3% and number of TV licences falls by 1% then revenue in cash terms will rise by 2%.

    So the BBC doesn't need to make "hundreds of millions of cuts". In real terms it needs to make cuts of 1% per year - ie under £40m per year.

    So why cuts of "hundreds of millions"?

    What the BBC is actually talking about is making cuts in some areas in order to spend more in other areas.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,612
    Bethan "Beth" Winter, a former MP who went Labour->Your party, will now stand as an Independent in the Senedd election in the seat of Pontypridd Cynon Merthyr. The seat elects six Members of the Senedd (MSs) using a voting method I don't understand.

    https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2026/02/13/labour-winter/
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,532

    Leon said:

    Oh god. Whatever your politics this is sad

    “British Muslims feel increasingly unwelcome and unsafe, census shows”

    https://x.com/thecanaryuk/status/2022326031516848341?s=4

    It seems that many UK Muslims feel increasingly unsafe, with large minorities planning to leave

    This is disastrous. What can we do?!

    It's awful that anyone should feel unsafe in their own country. Shame on the pedders of hate who have made this happen. And of course if it's Muslims today it'll be somebody else next. This is how fascists operate and it's why they have to be confronted always.
    On this , if nothing else, we agree

    THE PEDDERS OF HATE must be confronted. It’s time
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,770
    stodge said:

    Afternoon all :)

    A curious experience - the man at one of the local corner shops has just told me you will need a UK Passport to get benefits from now on.

    Is this right? Some might say "too right, me old china" while others might take a more nuanced view.

    I must confess I've never given it much thought - I assume for instance those with ILDR or with settled status (as EU citizens) can apply for such benefits. I don't know how many of my Tamil neighbours from South India or Sri Lanka hold UK passports in addition to their country of birth.

    I'd have thought any Sri Lankan who is eligible for it will have a British passport. Travelling on a Sri Lankan passport is a pain in the arse. Plus the threat of Reform means loads of EU folks with leave to remain are getting British citizenship now in case Farage plays silly buggers. I have had so many Europeans volunteer this to me recently. Something else to consider for elections and any rejoin referendum.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,770
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Oh god. Whatever your politics this is sad

    “British Muslims feel increasingly unwelcome and unsafe, census shows”

    https://x.com/thecanaryuk/status/2022326031516848341?s=4

    It seems that many UK Muslims feel increasingly unsafe, with large minorities planning to leave

    This is disastrous. What can we do?!

    It's awful that anyone should feel unsafe in their own country. Shame on the pedders of hate who have made this happen. And of course if it's Muslims today it'll be somebody else next. This is how fascists operate and it's why they have to be confronted always.
    On this , if nothing else, we agree

    THE PEDDERS OF HATE must be confronted. It’s time
    Wow what a zinger.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,532

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Oh god. Whatever your politics this is sad

    “British Muslims feel increasingly unwelcome and unsafe, census shows”

    https://x.com/thecanaryuk/status/2022326031516848341?s=4

    It seems that many UK Muslims feel increasingly unsafe, with large minorities planning to leave

    This is disastrous. What can we do?!

    It's awful that anyone should feel unsafe in their own country. Shame on the pedders of hate who have made this happen. And of course if it's Muslims today it'll be somebody else next. This is how fascists operate and it's why they have to be confronted always.
    On this , if nothing else, we agree

    THE PEDDERS OF HATE must be confronted. It’s time
    Wow what a zinger.
    What?? I was trying to agree!!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,864
    Nigelb said:

    MAGA Matt.

    Reform by-election candidate calls for ‘young girls’ to be given ‘biological reality’ check

    Matt Goodwin argued ‘young girls’ should be explained ‘the biological reality’ that ‘many women in Britain are having children much too late in life’

    https://x.com/reformexposed/status/2021987681492709524

    That sounds like a pep talk straight out of Epstein Island...
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,154
    Well worth watching. The Greens have got to win. Their candidate is a real Manc! She could be the cute younger sister of the Gallagher brothers. Feisty but pleasant. It helps that she's up against 'Mr Horrible.' Goodwin would give Farage a run for his money! (What was anyone thinking about?)

    Bastani with a bit of a vox pop

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND2EBhYLMRs
  • AnneJGP said:

    stodge said:

    Afternoon all :)

    A curious experience - the man at one of the local corner shops has just told me you will need a UK Passport to get benefits from now on.

    Is this right? Some might say "too right, me old china" while others might take a more nuanced view.

    I must confess I've never given it much thought - I assume for instance those with ILDR or with settled status (as EU citizens) can apply for such benefits. I don't know how many of my Tamil neighbours from South India or Sri Lanka hold UK passports in addition to their country of birth.

    Quite a number of people on benefits don't have a passport. If they've never been abroad, why would they?
    You already need to provide ID to get benefits. The disabled girl who lives on my street got moved from legacy benefits to UC and was required to give DWP proof of identity. She didn't have a passport or driver's licence, so they took a bunch of other stuff instead; birth certificate, utility bills, bank statements, etc. Was sorted quite quickly and efficiently, apparently.

    Requiring a passport would cause significant issues, particularly for seriously disabled people who are not likely to have one.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 57,864
    FYI

    What is the meaning of "pedder"?

    English (Lancashire): from a derivative of Middle English peddare, peddere 'peddler', hence a metonymic occupational name for a peddler or trader who went on foot from door to door, carrying his wares in a ped, a lidded wicker-work basket.

    This name is now frequent in Australia.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,532

    Leon said:

    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Oh god. Whatever your politics this is sad

    “British Muslims feel increasingly unwelcome and unsafe, census shows”

    https://x.com/thecanaryuk/status/2022326031516848341?s=4

    It seems that many UK Muslims feel increasingly unsafe, with large minorities planning to leave

    This is disastrous. What can we do?!

    And yet you posted this about Muslim men earlier today
    Leon said:

    The Reform vote is not going to subside. Why? Because we’ve now let in sufficient unvetted young men from patriarchal, misogynistic, primitive Muslim societies the rate of sexual offences is going to surge

    So the new policy question will be How do we kick them out

    Only Reform look remotely capable of addressing that (and I doubt they have the backbone to see it through)

    You can't have it both ways...
    What can I say. Events have overwhelmed me

    This shocking survey showing that Muslims may actually leave the UK en masse put everything in a new perspective

    What if they all go??? It doesn’t bear thinking about. It’s HORRIFIC
    Expressing solidarity to @TSE and any other Muslims reading this lonely drunk's hate-addled ramblings. He does not speak for me nor I suspect most of the rest of us.
    I’m actually trying to be community spirited, and genuinely appreciative of the rich diversity of the UK, and this is the kind of bile I receive??? This???

    My grandfather was a fucking Devonian. We took him in to our echt Cornish family. Accepted his weird scone ideas. The world grew richer, thereby

    You are in no place to lecture me, boy
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 6,017
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Oh god. Whatever your politics this is sad

    “British Muslims feel increasingly unwelcome and unsafe, census shows”

    https://x.com/thecanaryuk/status/2022326031516848341?s=4

    It seems that many UK Muslims feel increasingly unsafe, with large minorities planning to leave

    This is disastrous. What can we do?!

    It's awful that anyone should feel unsafe in their own country. Shame on the pedders of hate who have made this happen. And of course if it's Muslims today it'll be somebody else next. This is how fascists operate and it's why they have to be confronted always.
    On this , if nothing else, we agree

    THE PEDDERS OF HATE must be confronted. It’s time
    5pm and you're only now about to shave?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,566
    edited February 13

    Reform don't give a fig about dates.

    If you do date a Green party supporter, make sure you don't buy dates from Israel (sorry, "occupied Palestine") or your name will go on the list.

    https://x.com/habibi_uk/status/2021643461301321763
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,532

    Leon said:

    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Oh god. Whatever your politics this is sad

    “British Muslims feel increasingly unwelcome and unsafe, census shows”

    https://x.com/thecanaryuk/status/2022326031516848341?s=4

    It seems that many UK Muslims feel increasingly unsafe, with large minorities planning to leave

    This is disastrous. What can we do?!

    And yet you posted this about Muslim men earlier today
    Leon said:

    The Reform vote is not going to subside. Why? Because we’ve now let in sufficient unvetted young men from patriarchal, misogynistic, primitive Muslim societies the rate of sexual offences is going to surge

    So the new policy question will be How do we kick them out

    Only Reform look remotely capable of addressing that (and I doubt they have the backbone to see it through)

    You can't have it both ways...
    What can I say. Events have overwhelmed me

    This shocking survey showing that Muslims may actually leave the UK en masse put everything in a new perspective

    What if they all go??? It doesn’t bear thinking about. It’s HORRIFIC
    Expressing solidarity to @TSE and any other Muslims reading this lonely drunk's hate-addled ramblings. He does not speak for me nor I suspect most of the rest of us.
    Thanks, I am at the point where either Leon leaves PB or I do.

    I'll have a chat with OGH later on, if you don't see me posting on here, you know why.
    I’m literally saying it’s awful that these divisive currents are spreading across the UK

    What are you going to ban me for? Being communal and nice?
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,416

    Nigelb said:

    MAGA Matt.

    Reform by-election candidate calls for ‘young girls’ to be given ‘biological reality’ check

    Matt Goodwin argued ‘young girls’ should be explained ‘the biological reality’ that ‘many women in Britain are having children much too late in life’

    https://x.com/reformexposed/status/2021987681492709524

    That sounds like a pep talk straight out of Epstein Island...
    People are often very surprised at just how aggressive the NHS's age and weight limits are for IVF and other medical assistance.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,315
    malcolmg said:

    stodge said:

    Afternoon all :)

    A curious experience - the man at one of the local corner shops has just told me you will need a UK Passport to get benefits from now on.

    Is this right? Some might say "too right, me old china" while others might take a more nuanced view.

    I must confess I've never given it much thought - I assume for instance those with ILDR or with settled status (as EU citizens) can apply for such benefits. I don't know how many of my Tamil neighbours from South India or Sri Lanka hold UK passports in addition to their country of birth.

    Quite a lot of 'native Brits' haven't got a passport. Mine, for example, has expired and as I think it highly unlikely to be fit enough to travel outside UK I've not renewed it.
    Good money maker for government , but only if you need to claim benefits so misses out majority.
    OKC will be on benefits unless he's younger than he makes out.

    Almost all admin becomes a massive hassle if you don't have photo ID, even more so for those with LPOA for people no longer capable of administering their affairs.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,532

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Oh god. Whatever your politics this is sad

    “British Muslims feel increasingly unwelcome and unsafe, census shows”

    https://x.com/thecanaryuk/status/2022326031516848341?s=4

    It seems that many UK Muslims feel increasingly unsafe, with large minorities planning to leave

    This is disastrous. What can we do?!

    And yet you posted this about Muslim men earlier today
    Leon said:

    The Reform vote is not going to subside. Why? Because we’ve now let in sufficient unvetted young men from patriarchal, misogynistic, primitive Muslim societies the rate of sexual offences is going to surge

    So the new policy question will be How do we kick them out

    Only Reform look remotely capable of addressing that (and I doubt they have the backbone to see it through)

    You can't have it both ways...
    What can I say. Events have overwhelmed me

    This shocking survey showing that Muslims may actually leave the UK en masse put everything in a new perspective

    What if they all go??? It doesn’t bear thinking about. It’s HORRIFIC
    Expressing solidarity to @TSE and any other Muslims reading this lonely drunk's hate-addled ramblings. He does not speak for me nor I suspect most of the rest of us.
    Thanks, I am at the point where either Leon leaves PB or I do.

    I'll have a chat with OGH later on, if you don't see me posting on here, you know why.
    I’m literally saying it’s awful that these divisive currents are spreading across the UK

    What are you going to ban me for? Being communal and nice?
    No because you're a racist bellend, and I have better things to do that read your racist shite.

    In the past you've wanted to deport me to Madagascar, you've wanted taxes changed to encourage white babies, and dozens of other racist bullshit, you're a racist twat, it's a cumulative thing, and I've reached my limit with you.
    Perhaps you have misread my latest comments, eg

    “What can I say. Events have overwhelmed me

    This shocking survey showing that Muslims may actually leave the UK en masse put everything in a new perspective

    What if they all go??? It doesn’t bear thinking about. It’s HORRIFIC”
  • eekeek Posts: 32,584
    edited February 13

    AnneJGP said:

    stodge said:

    Afternoon all :)

    A curious experience - the man at one of the local corner shops has just told me you will need a UK Passport to get benefits from now on.

    Is this right? Some might say "too right, me old china" while others might take a more nuanced view.

    I must confess I've never given it much thought - I assume for instance those with ILDR or with settled status (as EU citizens) can apply for such benefits. I don't know how many of my Tamil neighbours from South India or Sri Lanka hold UK passports in addition to their country of birth.

    Quite a number of people on benefits don't have a passport. If they've never been abroad, why would they?
    You already need to provide ID to get benefits. The disabled girl who lives on my street got moved from legacy benefits to UC and was required to give DWP proof of identity. She didn't have a passport or driver's licence, so they took a bunch of other stuff instead; birth certificate, utility bills, bank statements, etc. Was sorted quite quickly and efficiently, apparently.

    Requiring a passport would cause significant issues, particularly for seriously disabled people who are not likely to have one.
    Yet many companies require a passport to confirm you have the right to work because anything else is a complete faff.

    It's the story I've posted many times before about ID cards. It solves a whole set of problems the chief one is when you need to check that you are who you claim to be the user story moves to a simple flowchart that uses less than a side of A4 compared to the current war and peace version with numerous ifs buts and maybes.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,915
    edited February 13

    Nigelb said:

    MAGA Matt.

    Reform by-election candidate calls for ‘young girls’ to be given ‘biological reality’ check

    Matt Goodwin argued ‘young girls’ should be explained ‘the biological reality’ that ‘many women in Britain are having children much too late in life’

    https://x.com/reformexposed/status/2021987681492709524

    That sounds like a pep talk straight out of Epstein Island...
    Does it ?

    From the article it appears he’s saying women should have children earlier. Not that it’s any of his business. He’s not advocating under age sex, sex trafficking or any other seedy stuff.

    He’s hardly Labour Party level of paedophile/Epstein apologia/wilful ignorance.
  • DumbosaurusDumbosaurus Posts: 1,010
    edited February 13
    Be interesting to see this broken down by sex. I suspect 90% of men don't give a stuff. I certainly didn't.
  • Dopermean said:

    malcolmg said:

    stodge said:

    Afternoon all :)

    A curious experience - the man at one of the local corner shops has just told me you will need a UK Passport to get benefits from now on.

    Is this right? Some might say "too right, me old china" while others might take a more nuanced view.

    I must confess I've never given it much thought - I assume for instance those with ILDR or with settled status (as EU citizens) can apply for such benefits. I don't know how many of my Tamil neighbours from South India or Sri Lanka hold UK passports in addition to their country of birth.

    Quite a lot of 'native Brits' haven't got a passport. Mine, for example, has expired and as I think it highly unlikely to be fit enough to travel outside UK I've not renewed it.
    Good money maker for government , but only if you need to claim benefits so misses out majority.
    OKC will be on benefits unless he's younger than he makes out.

    Almost all admin becomes a massive hassle if you don't have photo ID, even more so for those with LPOA for people no longer capable of administering their affairs.
    I was under the impression that for those who have been in prison it is very difficult in deed to get a passport, is that right ?
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,915
    Oh you lucky Londoners

    Sadiq Khan indicates he will stand for a fourth term

    https://x.com/standardnews/status/2022323752785113203?s=61
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,566
    Taz said:

    Oh you lucky Londoners

    Sadiq Khan indicates he will stand for a fourth term

    https://x.com/standardnews/status/2022323752785113203?s=61

    "Sadiq Khan indicates he's given up on becoming Prime Minister"
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 7,885
    Taz said:

    Nigelb said:

    MAGA Matt.

    Reform by-election candidate calls for ‘young girls’ to be given ‘biological reality’ check

    Matt Goodwin argued ‘young girls’ should be explained ‘the biological reality’ that ‘many women in Britain are having children much too late in life’

    https://x.com/reformexposed/status/2021987681492709524

    That sounds like a pep talk straight out of Epstein Island...
    Does it ?

    From the article it appears he’s saying women should have children earlier. Not that it’s any of his business. He’s not advocating under age sex, sex trafficking or any other seedy stuff.

    He’s hardly Labour Party level of paedophile/Epstein apologia/wilful ignorance.
    There is an argument for saying that many women who are planning to have a family, should plan to do it earlier.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,915

    Taz said:

    Oh you lucky Londoners

    Sadiq Khan indicates he will stand for a fourth term

    https://x.com/standardnews/status/2022323752785113203?s=61

    "Sadiq Khan indicates he's given up on becoming Prime Minister"
    London’s loss is our gain, or vice versa
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,532
    Taz said:

    Oh you lucky Londoners

    Sadiq Khan indicates he will stand for a fourth term

    https://x.com/standardnews/status/2022323752785113203?s=61

    OMFG

    Tho I think events will savagely overtake him
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,602

    Reform don't give a fig about dates.

    Particularly when trying to work out which year a bazillion immigrants entered the UK.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 37,456

    Leon said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    kinabalu said:

    Some types of hot food are ok cold the next day. Pizza is a good example. I thought lasagne might be too but I can today report that it isn't.

    Doner Kebab the day after is majestic
    No

    The issue with a next day kebab is less that it will be cold, and more that you will be sober
    Nothing to do with lamb is good cold. Ugh.

    For those who think they have sometime hallucinated it, here is the Lamb Kebab song:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoTgqTk2U1Y
    What???

    Cold roast lamb - slightly pink - is magnificent. It’s so good it barely needs any tarting up. Shove chunks of it in a fresh buttered bap or roll, with sea salt and cracked black pepper. Mmmmm. If you insist add a dab of mint sauce or mild pepper sauce

    But honestly it’s better on its own. Yum
    Nah. I worry about your palate. Cold lamb-fat is disgusting.

    Eat it hot, the only way - it releases the flavour.
    I don't often agree with you, but eating cold lamb? Some posters are just animals!
  • MattWMattW Posts: 32,082
    edited February 13

    AnneJGP said:

    stodge said:

    Afternoon all :)

    A curious experience - the man at one of the local corner shops has just told me you will need a UK Passport to get benefits from now on.

    Is this right? Some might say "too right, me old china" while others might take a more nuanced view.

    I must confess I've never given it much thought - I assume for instance those with ILDR or with settled status (as EU citizens) can apply for such benefits. I don't know how many of my Tamil neighbours from South India or Sri Lanka hold UK passports in addition to their country of birth.

    Quite a number of people on benefits don't have a passport. If they've never been abroad, why would they?
    You already need to provide ID to get benefits. The disabled girl who lives on my street got moved from legacy benefits to UC and was required to give DWP proof of identity. She didn't have a passport or driver's licence, so they took a bunch of other stuff instead; birth certificate, utility bills, bank statements, etc. Was sorted quite quickly and efficiently, apparently.

    Requiring a passport would cause significant issues, particularly for seriously disabled people who are not likely to have one.
    This is one of Trump's tactics to suppress votes against him.

    He wants to force voters to show either a passport or a birth certificate.

    Far fewer black Americans have passports than White Americans or Hispanic Americans.

    Birth Certificates will exclude women who never updated theirs to their married names, and it takes 4-8 weeks which will exclude who did not do it far enough in advance. Trump had 55% of men's votes in 2024, and 45% of women's votes.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,315
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Oh you lucky Londoners

    Sadiq Khan indicates he will stand for a fourth term

    https://x.com/standardnews/status/2022323752785113203?s=61

    "Sadiq Khan indicates he's given up on becoming Prime Minister"
    London’s loss is our gain, or vice versa
    Should be a comfortable victory in 2028 regardless of the voting system, quiet competence compared to the 2 previous incumbents
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,915

    Leon said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    kinabalu said:

    Some types of hot food are ok cold the next day. Pizza is a good example. I thought lasagne might be too but I can today report that it isn't.

    Doner Kebab the day after is majestic
    No

    The issue with a next day kebab is less that it will be cold, and more that you will be sober
    Nothing to do with lamb is good cold. Ugh.

    For those who think they have sometime hallucinated it, here is the Lamb Kebab song:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoTgqTk2U1Y
    What???

    Cold roast lamb - slightly pink - is magnificent. It’s so good it barely needs any tarting up. Shove chunks of it in a fresh buttered bap or roll, with sea salt and cracked black pepper. Mmmmm. If you insist add a dab of mint sauce or mild pepper sauce

    But honestly it’s better on its own. Yum
    Nah. I worry about your palate. Cold lamb-fat is disgusting.

    Eat it hot, the only way - it releases the flavour.
    I don't often agree with you, but eating cold lamb? Some posters are just animals!
    We’re all animals !
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 37,456

    Taz said:

    Oh you lucky Londoners

    Sadiq Khan indicates he will stand for a fourth term

    https://x.com/standardnews/status/2022323752785113203?s=61

    "Sadiq Khan indicates he's given up on becoming Prime Minister"
    I heard an interview with Sadiq and he was discussing Rishi with Mrs Sunak. Khan was eulogising as to what a fantastic achievement it was for a Hindu to reach the highest elected position in the land.

    On that score hats off to both of them.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,531
    Taz said:

    Oh you lucky Londoners

    Sadiq Khan indicates he will stand for a fourth term

    https://x.com/standardnews/status/2022323752785113203?s=61

    All the other parties should agree a candidate to get rid of him... at all costs.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,076
    Taz said:

    Oh you lucky Londoners

    Sadiq Khan indicates he will stand for a fourth term

    https://x.com/standardnews/status/2022323752785113203?s=61

    Not the greatest surprise in all honesty and the end of his prospects (you'd think) of a Westminster career. I wonder if he has made the calculation Labour will lose in 2029 and he will be one of the higher-profile Labour figures left. He got that wrong before of course and could easily be wrong again.

    It's fair to say he has antagonised a lot of people in London but he'll likely face a number of opponents who will likely split the anti-Labour vote allowing him to win - for example, even if May's local elections are a disaster (which they probably will be), Labour will probably still poll more votes in London than Reform let alone the Conservatives.

    We know Laila Cunningham will be the Reform candidate and as for the Conservatives, it could be Sebastian Coe (though I doubt it) or James Cleverley (I doubt that too) but there'sa big risk said candidate will start in third and face being squeezed.
  • Does Labour need a Peter Mandelson to win elections?
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,076

    Taz said:

    Oh you lucky Londoners

    Sadiq Khan indicates he will stand for a fourth term

    https://x.com/standardnews/status/2022323752785113203?s=61

    All the other parties should agree a candidate to get rid of him... at all costs.
    You and I both know that's not going to happen and even if it did, what then? The GLA will still be politically divided (unless all the non-Labour GLA members agree to act as a single caucus but we know that's not going to happen either).
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,444
    @juliamacfarlane

    U.S. Democrats write to Lord Mandelson, demanding he submit to questioning in front of Congress over the Epstein scandal
  • MattWMattW Posts: 32,082
    edited February 13
    Nigelb said:

    MAGA Matt.

    Reform by-election candidate calls for ‘young girls’ to be given ‘biological reality’ check

    Matt Goodwin argued ‘young girls’ should be explained ‘the biological reality’ that ‘many women in Britain are having children much too late in life’

    https://x.com/reformexposed/status/2021987681492709524

    He's said lots of interesting things. Potentially it could be fun if someone does the homework.

    One was that a "negative child benefit" should be applied to people who do not have children.
    https://www.thenational.scot/news/25833148.matt-goodwin-proposed-tax-women-no-children/

    I'm not sure how that works when it is possible for people to have children into their 50s or 60s or 70s.
  • DumbosaurusDumbosaurus Posts: 1,010
    Leon said:

    Be interesting to see this broken down by sex. I suspect 90% of men don't give a stuff. I certainly didn't.

    My dad (RIP) used to point to the bit on the census where it says

    “Broken down by age and sex”

    And he’d say Yeah, that’s me, do I sign there?
    As unpleasant as your remarks earlier were, I'll be sad to see you go, you bigot <3
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,531
    Anything is better than Khan. It has to be.
  • “Two jailed over plot to attack Jewish community”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8gv2327y7o

    How many of the Jewish community have been arrested for plots to bomb “other communities”?
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,527
    edited February 13
    “Two jailed over plot to attack Jewish community”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8gv2327y7o

    How many of the Jewish community have been arrested for plots to attack “other communities”?
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 9,115

    Anything is better than Khan. It has to be.

    Never really understood the dislike on here for him.

    He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,146
    Taz said:

    Oh you lucky Londoners

    Sadiq Khan indicates he will stand for a fourth term

    https://x.com/standardnews/status/2022323752785113203?s=61

    It doesn't affect me at all, but accepting as a premise he's been a good mayor, would anyone still be a good for a fourth term?

    Depends on the opposition I suppose, but the risk of getting tired and set in your ways, good and bad, surely increases the longer someone is in position.

    With individual MPs it's less of an issue because unless you hold another post, like being a minister, you aren't making or drivign decision-making.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,545

    Taz said:

    Oh you lucky Londoners

    Sadiq Khan indicates he will stand for a fourth term

    https://x.com/standardnews/status/2022323752785113203?s=61

    All the other parties should agree a candidate to get rid of him... at all costs.
    He has been very poor. Perhaps not as poor as Trump suggests, but undoubtedly an embarrassment for London. I don't think we've ever had a good Mayor.

  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,621
    kle4 said:

    Taz said:

    Oh you lucky Londoners

    Sadiq Khan indicates he will stand for a fourth term

    https://x.com/standardnews/status/2022323752785113203?s=61

    It doesn't affect me at all, but accepting as a premise he's been a good mayor, would anyone still be a good for a fourth term?

    Depends on the opposition I suppose, but the risk of getting tired and set in your ways, good and bad, surely increases the longer someone is in position.

    With individual MPs it's less of an issue because unless you hold another post, like being a minister, you aren't making or drivign decision-making.
    FDR would have been good imo, had he lived.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,146

    Taz said:

    Nigelb said:

    MAGA Matt.

    Reform by-election candidate calls for ‘young girls’ to be given ‘biological reality’ check

    Matt Goodwin argued ‘young girls’ should be explained ‘the biological reality’ that ‘many women in Britain are having children much too late in life’

    https://x.com/reformexposed/status/2021987681492709524

    That sounds like a pep talk straight out of Epstein Island...
    Does it ?

    From the article it appears he’s saying women should have children earlier. Not that it’s any of his business. He’s not advocating under age sex, sex trafficking or any other seedy stuff.

    He’s hardly Labour Party level of paedophile/Epstein apologia/wilful ignorance.
    There is an argument for saying that many women who are planning to have a family, should plan to do it earlier.
    The point can certainly be made in a reasonable way, so whilst I can understand people being wary of him based on other remarks, in itself it's not exactly shocking.
  • I reckon that white Brits somewhat colonised parts of the Costa del Sol in the 80s

    Is that a self hate crime?
  • JSpringJSpring Posts: 113
    This is a good example of how polling participants tend to be more politically-obsessed than the general public. About 40% of the eligible-to-vote public don't vote, so I highly doubt that these figures are accurate and that so many would base their dating on political views.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,146

    kle4 said:

    Taz said:

    Oh you lucky Londoners

    Sadiq Khan indicates he will stand for a fourth term

    https://x.com/standardnews/status/2022323752785113203?s=61

    It doesn't affect me at all, but accepting as a premise he's been a good mayor, would anyone still be a good for a fourth term?

    Depends on the opposition I suppose, but the risk of getting tired and set in your ways, good and bad, surely increases the longer someone is in position.

    With individual MPs it's less of an issue because unless you hold another post, like being a minister, you aren't making or drivign decision-making.
    FDR would have been good imo, had he lived.
    Definitely it is possible, though I think it would be rare. The same way a 23 year old PM or an 80 year old PM can indeed work, although the average 23/80 year old would face skepticism.
  • rkrkrk said:

    Anything is better than Khan. It has to be.

    Never really understood the dislike on here for him.

    He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
    It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.

    Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,076
    Omnium said:

    Taz said:

    Oh you lucky Londoners

    Sadiq Khan indicates he will stand for a fourth term

    https://x.com/standardnews/status/2022323752785113203?s=61

    All the other parties should agree a candidate to get rid of him... at all costs.
    He has been very poor. Perhaps not as poor as Trump suggests, but undoubtedly an embarrassment for London. I don't think we've ever had a good Mayor.

    I don't agree. Mrs Stodge loathes him but I'm fairly ambivalent.

    The Mayor of London isn't like a Council leader - it's much more about profile then power, style rather than substance. The real power still sits with the Boroughs over matters such as Planning, Education and Council Tax.

    The London Mayor has some control over transport and the Police but not that much as the money comes from elsewhere.

    Livingstone's legacy was a successful Olympics while Boris has his bikes. Khan's is a bit harder to quantify but the tourists keep coming and their money helps a lot. London is basically 32 Boroughs and one City not looking for anything at all.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,434
    Pro_Rata said:

    viewcode said:

    The comment trail Pt 3 looks like this

    Sweeney74 Posts: 90 2:15PM
    https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5455039/#Comment_5455039

    Since we've been chatting AI recently, I thought I would see what my GPT had to say on the subject:

    Under UK law, sitting in the middle lane when lane 1 is clear is usually treated as careless driving, also known as driving without due care and attention under Section 3 of the Road Traffic Act 1988. The Highway Code is not law by itself, but it does reflect legal duties. Rule 264 says: You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. That “should” means it is advisory guidance. But ignoring it without good reason can be used as evidence of careless driving.

    [snip]

    LostPassword Posts: 22,429 2:15PM
    https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5455040/#Comment_5455040

    Indeed - do this thing, unless there's a compelling unstated reason not to do so. For example, I've sometimes delayed pulling back over to lane 1 when approaching a slip lane merging from a junction. That's a sensible, and temporary, exception to the should.

    I know, I'm carrying on a driving discussion.

    On not moving back left being careless, remember the leeway you have. On the chevrons you should be a distance of two full chevrons from the car in front, that is, when chevron #1 becomes visible behind them, you should still be behind chevron #3.

    Moving out to overtake and moving back should also occur a minimum of the full two chevrons back and two chevrons in front respectively, and that would also apply if you are within 2 chevrons in the direction of travel from a merging car.

    That is a considerable amount of leeway, you don't have to act like you're on an empty European toll motorway where, as soon as you are one centimeter clear on an overtake, a car automagically appears behind you going 80km/h faster and flashing its lights.
    My wife likes to remind me that being pedantically correct about the rules of the road will be of little comfort when you find yourself upside down in a ditch.

    I've seen so many middle lane hoggers causing an obstruction which provokes other drivers to do dangerous things. Sensible, defensive driving also suggests not to hog the middle lane.
  • Scott_xP said:

    @juliamacfarlane

    U.S. Democrats write to Lord Mandelson, demanding he submit to questioning in front of Congress over the Epstein scandal

    That is the last thing Starmer needs

    He is now in the same position as the King having to support the demands to testify

    I would expect all opposition parties to support the request

  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,711

    Leon said:

    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Oh god. Whatever your politics this is sad

    “British Muslims feel increasingly unwelcome and unsafe, census shows”

    https://x.com/thecanaryuk/status/2022326031516848341?s=4

    It seems that many UK Muslims feel increasingly unsafe, with large minorities planning to leave

    This is disastrous. What can we do?!

    And yet you posted this about Muslim men earlier today
    Leon said:

    The Reform vote is not going to subside. Why? Because we’ve now let in sufficient unvetted young men from patriarchal, misogynistic, primitive Muslim societies the rate of sexual offences is going to surge

    So the new policy question will be How do we kick them out

    Only Reform look remotely capable of addressing that (and I doubt they have the backbone to see it through)

    You can't have it both ways...
    What can I say. Events have overwhelmed me

    This shocking survey showing that Muslims may actually leave the UK en masse put everything in a new perspective

    What if they all go??? It doesn’t bear thinking about. It’s HORRIFIC
    Expressing solidarity to @TSE and any other Muslims reading this lonely drunk's hate-addled ramblings. He does not speak for me nor I suspect most of the rest of us.
    I disagree with 999,998 out of 1,000,000 @SeanT s, generally.

    His views on race and cocktails are unspeakable.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 37,456

    rkrkrk said:

    Anything is better than Khan. It has to be.

    Never really understood the dislike on here for him.

    He doesn't strike me as having achieved a huge amount, a few things like ULEZ I have noticed, but he is clearly not doing that badly or he wouldn't keep getting re elected.
    It's a largely ceremonial position so you wouldn't expect great things, or great damage. That's why Boris made a decent Mayor. It's why Khan also fits the bill.

    Is there someone else in the wings who might do better?
    Cleverly?
  • Boris speaks

    Source: Instagram https://share.google/cZPCWp1SPhmfnv7gA
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,545
    stodge said:

    Omnium said:

    Taz said:

    Oh you lucky Londoners

    Sadiq Khan indicates he will stand for a fourth term

    https://x.com/standardnews/status/2022323752785113203?s=61

    All the other parties should agree a candidate to get rid of him... at all costs.
    He has been very poor. Perhaps not as poor as Trump suggests, but undoubtedly an embarrassment for London. I don't think we've ever had a good Mayor.

    I don't agree. Mrs Stodge loathes him but I'm fairly ambivalent.

    The Mayor of London isn't like a Council leader - it's much more about profile then power, style rather than substance. The real power still sits with the Boroughs over matters such as Planning, Education and Council Tax.

    The London Mayor has some control over transport and the Police but not that much as the money comes from elsewhere.

    Livingstone's legacy was a successful Olympics while Boris has his bikes. Khan's is a bit harder to quantify but the tourists keep coming and their money helps a lot. London is basically 32 Boroughs and one City not looking for anything at all.
    I nearly always find myself defending him, so it's refreshing to be on the other side. He's poor because he does all sorts of crap that means nothing, divides communities, and costs money.

    Look at the rebranding of the surface lines. Simply him forcing misplaced ideology. And it's just so embarrassing.

    Khan has been very poor.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 37,456
    edited February 13

    Boris speaks

    Source: Instagram https://share.google/cZPCWp1SPhmfnv7gA

    To quote Warren Zevon; "And his hair was perfect".
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