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  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,182
    Sandpit said:

    Okay, so not only are the Russians losing ground and surrendering, but Russia is also now trying to block Telegram - where much of the criticism of the operation has been going down in the past few days.

    https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/2021234831284183174

    https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/2021189044093190282

    I must admit to getting a teeny weeny bit optimistic, for the first time in a long while.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,502
    Eabhal said:

    DavidL said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    The man with the second worst attendance record at the European Parliament wants to ban working from home.

    For someone who says you need to attend your place of work, he spends precious little time in his, the HoC.

    Didn't even turn up for the debate on Russian influence. I'm pretty sure he could have shed some interesting light on that.
    It is all a bit nanny state. Instructing organisations independent of government how to arrange their business.
    Remember that Reform voters mostly want a nanny state.

    The key thing is that nanny will give sweeties to those who deserve them and a sound spanking to naughty boys and girls.
    ....and we come full circle to Epstein.
    The rumours about Epstein still being alive are fascinating to watch, as they grow and grow

    And, given how bizarre this story is, in the first place (“billionaire private pedo island for US presidents and British princes”) I don’t entirely dismiss them. It does solve the profound mystery of his suicide/murder. It’s no longer a mystery because he’s STILL ALIVE
    I think it is much, much more likely that he is dead. He had too many holds over too many people in positions of power. Murdering him was the simple option. The idea that it was suicide is frankly laughable.
    I've always assumed it was a Frank Pentangeli-style suicide (indeed we know Trump's gang have previously referenced that). I wonder if Epstein had secret children he was trying to protect. Something like that.
    It’s pretty clear from the Files that Epstein had at least one kid, maybe more

    My theory has always been that he was pressured to commit suicide by using menaces against someone he loved

    “We’ll cut the cameras and send the guards to sleep and then you’ve got 2 hours to off yourself, or your kid dies”

    That covers most of the bases and explains most of the mystery

    However like @Cookie i feel its impossible to rule out wilder explanations as the whole thing already reads like a QAnon fantasy yet it is indisputably true and getting weirder by the day
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,447
    rcs1000 said:

    Wisdom of the crowds is bollocks.

    If it wasn't, then the favourite would always win.

    That's not necessarily true:

    Betting markets are indicators of probability. If a runner is available at evens, then you should expect them to win approximately half the time.
    But, not always to win.

    I must have missed Willie Whitelaw becoming LOTO in 1975 and Michael Heseltine becoming PM in 1990.

    Quite often the favourite shouldn't be.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,602

    New comms. Same as the old comms.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/2021259971019567322

    Whatever is going on in the turmoil of politics, I know that for you and for millions of people, what matters is the cost of living.

    That's why we are taking urgent steps to tackle it head on.

    Freezing rail fares, rolling out free breakfast clubs and free school meals, boosting the National Living Wage and easing energy bills.

    Putting more money in people’s pockets.

    That’s my government’s focus.

    I am, on the whole, in favour of free school meals and stuff like free breakfast clubs. As a recurring USP for the Labour party and government, I think it lacks something. The need for these things is (a) because too many people are too poor and (b) because too many people are too busy. Neither of these factors in any sense commends a Labour (or any) government.

    Few of the recipients who are actually helped will spend any time whatsoever thinking about voting or parliament or government. For the rest of us, 'Free Breakfast Clubs' is a trope as done to death as 'toolmaker'.

  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,731
    Dopermean said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    MattW said:

    FPT

    Taz said:

    Dopermean said:

    Interesting focus group commissioned by Cummings. There's more at the link so I'll just paste a few points that stand out:

    https://x.com/Dominic2306/status/2021148424188395809

    * They hate Westminster and both parties more than ever. 'It's like they hate us' is a common view.

    * Voters greatly UNDER-estimate the scale of immigration by ~5-30X, contrary to the conventional wisdom. They are already angry about the immigration farce of Tories and Labour before they are given the real numbers. So there is huge scope for *much greater hatred for the old parties* and much more support for *much tougher action*. Millions of LAB voters want much tougher action on immigration than Tories like Gawke and Barwell.

    *They HATE HATE HATE the utility companies - the hate is the same across CON/LAB/REF etc. This is an open goal for all political entrepreneurs.

    *Voters are much more angry about benefit scams than MPs of any party. This issue seems less polarised than immigration.

    *Voters have few views on Kemi because they ignore the Tories because ‘they’re just not relevant any more’. They know nothing she's said or done. 'Useless but irrelevant'.

    Focus group commissioned by Cummings is all you need to know about that.
    It was conducted by Merlin Strategy, a member of the BPC. I thought members of the BPC were afforded respect here

    Are you doubting their integrity.

    Just because you may not like who commissioned it does not make it wrong.

    I’ve read the whole Cummings post and find the attitudes of the people in the focus group hard to disagree with (with a few exceptions)

    https://x.com/scarlett__mag/status/2021175705782862320?s=61
    I think some of it is problematic. For example the question around immigration asks the surveyees to estimate emigration since January 2021, and then pivots it to 'Conservative and Labour have not done enough', whilst afaics not mentioning that net immigration is 80% down between summer 2023 and summer 2025 in either the question or the twitter essay.

    There's more detail on Dom's substack:
    https://dominiccummings.substack.com/p/regime-change-2026-29-results-from

    I hope that BPC standards are such that that is not up to scratch. I wonder if the attitudes would be the same had they asked for estimates of immigration since summer 2024 or in the last 12 months.

    In reality net immigration is back to what it was before the post-Brexit hump, and some are trying politically to keep it central beyond its sell-by date.

    (I'm not commenting on Merlin Strategy, run by Scarlett Maguire; I don't know enough to comment.)

    You still don’t understand do you?

    The argument has gone beyond “immigration is too high” and on to “there are far too many immigrants HERE”

    So net migration could drop to zero and you’d still have an awful lot of people deeply concerned about “immigration” - amongst them the Home Secretary, who is promising to toughen up the laws on the right to remain in the UK for the Boriswave

    ie - people already HERE
    I read Dom's latest effusion, or at least tried to, (tbf, he is very thought-provoking) and one of his points about immigration is the number of incomers from the "very worst places", ie, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc. Young men from war-torn countries with heritage views about women, religion, etc. By inference his point is if you import people from areas where radical Islamism is a thing, you are likely to be importing radical Islamism.

    He does have a point.
    Well, yeah, derrrrrr

    Is this some amazing surprise to you? Who did you think we were importing from the Middle East? Lib Dem voting feminists?
    Up to a point, but many of those coming here are escaping oppressive theocratic regimes like the Taliban rather than seeking to establish similar regimes here. Refugees from the Taliban are not the Taliban, just as refugees from the Nazis were not Nazis.
    Responding to Taz upthread, IMO focus groups aren't too easy to manipulate, for reference pollster Frank Luntz https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9607985/Influential-GOP-pollster-Frank-Luntzs-research-scam-former-employees-say.html

    Noted that merlinstrategy has now had her application for BPC membership processed
    I have met Scarlett Macguire, I am sure that any polling Merlin Strategy does will abide by BPC standards but she definitely came across as having a political lean.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,447
    Other than switching Thatcher for Major, which happened less than 18 months before a GE, I'm struggling to see where changing a PM horse midway worked well.

    Callaghan? No. Brown? No. May? Not really? Boris, yes, but he very quickly called a GE. Truss? Lol. Sunak? No. Macmillan for Eden? Fair enough, yes.

    Douglas-Home? No. Even Chamberlain for Churchill (very long wait). No.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,529
    rcs1000 said:

    Wisdom of the crowds is bollocks.

    If it wasn't, then the favourite would always win.

    That's not necessarily true:

    Betting markets are indicators of probability. If a runner is available at evens, then you should expect them to win approximately half the time.
    Betting markets are at best perceived probability. There's no truth in them, and they are easily distorted. Brian Rose spent some money and distorted the market so that it was entirely unrepresentative of anyone's view.

  • eekeek Posts: 32,530
    algarkirk said:

    New comms. Same as the old comms.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/2021259971019567322

    Whatever is going on in the turmoil of politics, I know that for you and for millions of people, what matters is the cost of living.

    That's why we are taking urgent steps to tackle it head on.

    Freezing rail fares, rolling out free breakfast clubs and free school meals, boosting the National Living Wage and easing energy bills.

    Putting more money in people’s pockets.

    That’s my government’s focus.

    I am, on the whole, in favour of free school meals and stuff like free breakfast clubs. As a recurring USP for the Labour party and government, I think it lacks something. The need for these things is (a) because too many people are too poor and (b) because too many people are too busy. Neither of these factors in any sense commends a Labour (or any) government.

    Few of the recipients who are actually helped will spend any time whatsoever thinking about voting or parliament or government. For the rest of us, 'Free Breakfast Clubs' is a trope as done to death as 'toolmaker'.

    Boosting minimum wage is creating a whole set of incentives not to employ anyone young without experience
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,480

    Other than switching Thatcher for Major, which happened less than 18 months before a GE, I'm struggling to see where changing a PM horse midway worked well.

    Callaghan? No. Brown? No. May? Not really? Boris, yes, but he very quickly called a GE. Truss? Lol. Sunak? No. Macmillan for Eden? Fair enough, yes.

    Douglas-Home? No. Even Chamberlain for Churchill (very long wait). No.

    Trudeau for Carney is the modern best-case example.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 59,861
    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Okay, so not only are the Russians losing ground and surrendering, but Russia is also now trying to block Telegram - where much of the criticism of the operation has been going down in the past few days.

    https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/2021234831284183174

    https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/2021189044093190282

    I must admit to getting a teeny weeny bit optimistic, for the first time in a long while.
    Agreed. I know these things happen slowly then happen quickly, but it does appear that the Starlink ban was a game changer on the front lines, the Russians relying on dodgy terminals much more than was previously thought.

    They made the mistake of putting them onto drones that crashed in Ukraine, and it took UKR gov and SpaceX about a week to work out a way of blocking non-Ukranian Starlinks in Ukraine.

    Apparently the Ukranians, with possibly some help from the British and Americans, cracked the encryption on Russian radios a couple of years ago, and they’ve been using unconventional methods of communication ever since.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,182
    Omnium said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Wisdom of the crowds is bollocks.

    If it wasn't, then the favourite would always win.

    That's not necessarily true:

    Betting markets are indicators of probability. If a runner is available at evens, then you should expect them to win approximately half the time.
    Betting markets are at best perceived probability. There's no truth in them, and they are easily distorted. Brian Rose spent some money and distorted the market so that it was entirely unrepresentative of anyone's view.

    Well, this should be easy enough to analyse.

    Let's take a random selection of -say- 10,000 Betfair markets, and put them into probability buckets, and see how accurate they are.

    I'm going to go with pretty accurate, but there's only one way to find out.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,182

    rcs1000 said:

    Wisdom of the crowds is bollocks.

    If it wasn't, then the favourite would always win.

    That's not necessarily true:

    Betting markets are indicators of probability. If a runner is available at evens, then you should expect them to win approximately half the time.
    But, not always to win.

    I must have missed Willie Whitelaw becoming LOTO in 1975 and Michael Heseltine becoming PM in 1990.

    Quite often the favourite shouldn't be.
    Of course not: evens suggests the most likely outcome, it does not imply anything approaching certainty.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,566

    ydoethur said:

    dixiedean said:

    In todays Guardian there's an article headlined 'Spanish is clearly now the world’s coolest language. So why do we push children to learn French?'
    The writer points out that Spanish is much more useful than French.
    When I was at secondary school we did French and Latin in the first year, then added either German or Spanish in the second. In the fourth year if one did Science, as I did, one dropped Latin.
    I did German because I (and my father) thought it was 'the language of science'.
    I'm sure I'd have been better off doing Spanish.

    Spanish long since deposed German as the most common second language in schools as foreign holidays became more important than the cold war. As you say, German was once also the language of science and was compulsory at Imperial College for that reason. I doubt it is still the case but @Sunil_Prasannan will know more. As your article notes, Spanish has just become the most popular GCSE language anyway.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/10/spanish-coolest-language-education-children-french-bad-bunny-gcse

    The future's bright.
    The future's orange.
    Well. Mandarin anyways.
    Chinese and Russian are popular subjects at public schools. I don't know about the state sector.
    Very often that is Chinese and Russian children studying them because it's a fairly straightforward way of getting a top A-level grade.
    Also the same in the state sector, students are often encouraged to stay their/their parents' native language to A Level if it can be facilitated. Never had a Russian native speaker, but plenty of Chinese, Italian, Spanish and Polish speakers.

    (Only been defeated once, when the student spoke fluent Swedish - his mum was from Stockholm - sadly there is no A Level).
    Had that problem with an Uzbek once. He did Russian instead.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,950
    edited 5:43PM
    It must be bad even Pie has popped up to have a rant about Labour and that Starmer needs to go,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD0kXDKtW7o
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,092

    Other than switching Thatcher for Major, which happened less than 18 months before a GE, I'm struggling to see where changing a PM horse midway worked well.

    Callaghan? No. Brown? No. May? Not really? Boris, yes, but he very quickly called a GE. Truss? Lol. Sunak? No. Macmillan for Eden? Fair enough, yes.

    Douglas-Home? No. Even Chamberlain for Churchill (very long wait). No.

    Trudeau for Carney is the modern best-case example.
    Wasn't much choice with changing PM when Callaghan took over: Wilson had resigned on health grounds.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,778

    It must be bad even Pie has popped up to have a rant about Labour and that Starmer needs to go,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD0kXDKtW7o

    Any sign of Led By Donkeys yet ?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,412
    @atrupar.com‬

    Rep. Delia Ramirez to DHS officials: "I have as much respect for you as I do for the last white men who put on masks to terrorize communities of color. I have no respect for the inheritors of the Klanhood and the slave patrol. Those activities were criminal and so are yours."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mejhgv77yv2r
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 298
    algarkirk said:

    New comms. Same as the old comms.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/2021259971019567322

    Whatever is going on in the turmoil of politics, I know that for you and for millions of people, what matters is the cost of living.

    That's why we are taking urgent steps to tackle it head on.

    Freezing rail fares, rolling out free breakfast clubs and free school meals, boosting the National Living Wage and easing energy bills.

    Putting more money in people’s pockets.

    That’s my government’s focus.

    I am, on the whole, in favour of free school meals and stuff like free breakfast clubs. As a recurring USP for the Labour party and government, I think it lacks something. The need for these things is (a) because too many people are too poor and (b) because too many people are too busy. Neither of these factors in any sense commends a Labour (or any) government.

    Few of the recipients who are actually helped will spend any time whatsoever thinking about voting or parliament or government. For the rest of us, 'Free Breakfast Clubs' is a trope as done to death as 'toolmaker'.

    Policy
    Policy
    Policy.

    Is the right move for Labour

    Policy
    Delivery

    Tangible benefits

    Let the Mail and Telegraph
    Badenoch and Davey bleat on and on about Epsten

    There comes a time in the public psyche when they sit on the settee and "I'm sick and tired it's this every night" however gruesome it is.

    Epstein is dead allegedly
    Mandelson will hopefully soon be inside
    Andrew Windsor ditto

    The Country cannot be goaded by weak politicians with nothing to offer or say a our real issues, real people, every day life.

    Policy
    Delivery
    Tangible Delivery

    PS if by some million to one chance Epstein has been secreted to Israel we should strike down him and the bastards who have shielded him. If that requires military force so be it.

    Trump would nuke some Countries for lesd

    I have to believe the scroat is dead

  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,480
    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    Rep. Delia Ramirez to DHS officials: "I have as much respect for you as I do for the last white men who put on masks to terrorize communities of color. I have no respect for the inheritors of the Klanhood and the slave patrol. Those activities were criminal and so are yours."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mejhgv77yv2r

    Some Democrats sound like they want to foment a civil war.
  • The_WoodpeckerThe_Woodpecker Posts: 542
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    dixiedean said:

    In todays Guardian there's an article headlined 'Spanish is clearly now the world’s coolest language. So why do we push children to learn French?'
    The writer points out that Spanish is much more useful than French.
    When I was at secondary school we did French and Latin in the first year, then added either German or Spanish in the second. In the fourth year if one did Science, as I did, one dropped Latin.
    I did German because I (and my father) thought it was 'the language of science'.
    I'm sure I'd have been better off doing Spanish.

    Spanish long since deposed German as the most common second language in schools as foreign holidays became more important than the cold war. As you say, German was once also the language of science and was compulsory at Imperial College for that reason. I doubt it is still the case but @Sunil_Prasannan will know more. As your article notes, Spanish has just become the most popular GCSE language anyway.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/10/spanish-coolest-language-education-children-french-bad-bunny-gcse

    The future's bright.
    The future's orange.
    Well. Mandarin anyways.
    Chinese and Russian are popular subjects at public schools. I don't know about the state sector.
    Very often that is Chinese and Russian children studying them because it's a fairly straightforward way of getting a top A-level grade.
    Also the same in the state sector, students are often encouraged to stay their/their parents' native language to A Level if it can be facilitated. Never had a Russian native speaker, but plenty of Chinese, Italian, Spanish and Polish speakers.

    (Only been defeated once, when the student spoke fluent Swedish - his mum was from Stockholm - sadly there is no A Level).
    Had that problem with an Uzbek once. He did Russian instead.
    Also, Spanish is simply easier.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,566

    Other than switching Thatcher for Major, which happened less than 18 months before a GE, I'm struggling to see where changing a PM horse midway worked well.

    Callaghan? No. Brown? No. May? Not really? Boris, yes, but he very quickly called a GE. Truss? Lol. Sunak? No. Macmillan for Eden? Fair enough, yes.

    Douglas-Home? No. Even Chamberlain for Churchill (very long wait). No.

    Douglas-Home took the Conservatives from trailing by a long way to losing by four, and at one point there seemed the strong possibility they would pull off a narrow win. Indeed, there has always been a school of thought that had Butler finally become PM he would very likely have won.

    Eden for Churchill might be mentioned too, of course, or Baldwin for Macdonald. Equally you could add Baldwin (1923), Balfour, Asquith and Rosebery as options against.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,566
    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    Rep. Delia Ramirez to DHS officials: "I have as much respect for you as I do for the last white men who put on masks to terrorize communities of color. I have no respect for the inheritors of the Klanhood and the slave patrol. Those activities were criminal and so are yours."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mejhgv77yv2r

    That's a bit harsh.

    I mean, the KKK would be quite offended at the idea they were doing it for money.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,529
    rcs1000 said:

    Omnium said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Wisdom of the crowds is bollocks.

    If it wasn't, then the favourite would always win.

    That's not necessarily true:

    Betting markets are indicators of probability. If a runner is available at evens, then you should expect them to win approximately half the time.
    Betting markets are at best perceived probability. There's no truth in them, and they are easily distorted. Brian Rose spent some money and distorted the market so that it was entirely unrepresentative of anyone's view.

    Well, this should be easy enough to analyse.

    Let's take a random selection of -say- 10,000 Betfair markets, and put them into probability buckets, and see how accurate they are.

    I'm going to go with pretty accurate, but there's only one way to find out.
    You'll find that matters are as you suspect on the whole, but anomalous volume or anomalous pricing (against some model ) produces anomalous results.

    But this is precisely what you'd expect anyway.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,699

    Lot of pressure today for the King to tell Andrew to give evidence but now live on US tv Virginia de frey brother says the same

    I would hope that that is a decision where the advice of lawyers would hold sway.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,275

    Dopermean said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    MattW said:

    FPT

    Taz said:

    Dopermean said:

    Interesting focus group commissioned by Cummings. There's more at the link so I'll just paste a few points that stand out:

    https://x.com/Dominic2306/status/2021148424188395809

    * They hate Westminster and both parties more than ever. 'It's like they hate us' is a common view.

    * Voters greatly UNDER-estimate the scale of immigration by ~5-30X, contrary to the conventional wisdom. They are already angry about the immigration farce of Tories and Labour before they are given the real numbers. So there is huge scope for *much greater hatred for the old parties* and much more support for *much tougher action*. Millions of LAB voters want much tougher action on immigration than Tories like Gawke and Barwell.

    *They HATE HATE HATE the utility companies - the hate is the same across CON/LAB/REF etc. This is an open goal for all political entrepreneurs.

    *Voters are much more angry about benefit scams than MPs of any party. This issue seems less polarised than immigration.

    *Voters have few views on Kemi because they ignore the Tories because ‘they’re just not relevant any more’. They know nothing she's said or done. 'Useless but irrelevant'.

    Focus group commissioned by Cummings is all you need to know about that.
    It was conducted by Merlin Strategy, a member of the BPC. I thought members of the BPC were afforded respect here

    Are you doubting their integrity.

    Just because you may not like who commissioned it does not make it wrong.

    I’ve read the whole Cummings post and find the attitudes of the people in the focus group hard to disagree with (with a few exceptions)

    https://x.com/scarlett__mag/status/2021175705782862320?s=61
    I think some of it is problematic. For example the question around immigration asks the surveyees to estimate emigration since January 2021, and then pivots it to 'Conservative and Labour have not done enough', whilst afaics not mentioning that net immigration is 80% down between summer 2023 and summer 2025 in either the question or the twitter essay.

    There's more detail on Dom's substack:
    https://dominiccummings.substack.com/p/regime-change-2026-29-results-from

    I hope that BPC standards are such that that is not up to scratch. I wonder if the attitudes would be the same had they asked for estimates of immigration since summer 2024 or in the last 12 months.

    In reality net immigration is back to what it was before the post-Brexit hump, and some are trying politically to keep it central beyond its sell-by date.

    (I'm not commenting on Merlin Strategy, run by Scarlett Maguire; I don't know enough to comment.)

    You still don’t understand do you?

    The argument has gone beyond “immigration is too high” and on to “there are far too many immigrants HERE”

    So net migration could drop to zero and you’d still have an awful lot of people deeply concerned about “immigration” - amongst them the Home Secretary, who is promising to toughen up the laws on the right to remain in the UK for the Boriswave

    ie - people already HERE
    I read Dom's latest effusion, or at least tried to, (tbf, he is very thought-provoking) and one of his points about immigration is the number of incomers from the "very worst places", ie, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc. Young men from war-torn countries with heritage views about women, religion, etc. By inference his point is if you import people from areas where radical Islamism is a thing, you are likely to be importing radical Islamism.

    He does have a point.
    Well, yeah, derrrrrr

    Is this some amazing surprise to you? Who did you think we were importing from the Middle East? Lib Dem voting feminists?
    Up to a point, but many of those coming here are escaping oppressive theocratic regimes like the Taliban rather than seeking to establish similar regimes here. Refugees from the Taliban are not the Taliban, just as refugees from the Nazis were not Nazis.
    Responding to Taz upthread, IMO focus groups aren't too easy to manipulate, for reference pollster Frank Luntz https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9607985/Influential-GOP-pollster-Frank-Luntzs-research-scam-former-employees-say.html

    Noted that merlinstrategy has now had her application for BPC membership processed
    I have met Scarlett Macguire, I am sure that any polling Merlin Strategy does will abide by BPC standards but she definitely came across as having a political lean.
    I see I left out a comma...
  • isamisam Posts: 43,593
    “To us, he’s just Peter… or MANDELSON when we’ve been rumbled”

    Keir Starmer on Peter Mandelson: Then vs Now.

    The only difference? He got caught.


    https://x.com/conservatives/status/2021270534785310993?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,566

    Other than switching Thatcher for Major, which happened less than 18 months before a GE, I'm struggling to see where changing a PM horse midway worked well.

    Callaghan? No. Brown? No. May? Not really? Boris, yes, but he very quickly called a GE. Truss? Lol. Sunak? No. Macmillan for Eden? Fair enough, yes.

    Douglas-Home? No. Even Chamberlain for Churchill (very long wait). No.

    Trudeau for Carney is the modern best-case example.
    The Aussies had a bit of a run with it from 2007 onwards as well actually.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,566

    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    Rep. Delia Ramirez to DHS officials: "I have as much respect for you as I do for the last white men who put on masks to terrorize communities of color. I have no respect for the inheritors of the Klanhood and the slave patrol. Those activities were criminal and so are yours."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mejhgv77yv2r

    Some Democrats sound like they want to foment a civil war.
    You mean, they threaten to put gangs of masked violent criminals on the street and have them shoot people with compelte impunity while threatening martial law to postpone elections?

    Gee, I hadn't realised Trump had rejoined the Dems.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,950
    Taz said:

    It must be bad even Pie has popped up to have a rant about Labour and that Starmer needs to go,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD0kXDKtW7o

    Any sign of Led By Donkeys yet ?
    More stunts about Epstein and Musk.....fingers on the pulse of UK politics.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,480
    The latest video from Owen Jones:

    https://x.com/owenjonesjourno/status/2021276742275444966

    Peter Mandelson wasn't just the Ambassador to the US.

    He was one of the influential figures in the Starmer government.

    A fact that was concealed from the British public.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,529

    The latest video from Owen Jones:

    https://x.com/owenjonesjourno/status/2021276742275444966

    Peter Mandelson wasn't just the Ambassador to the US.

    He was one of the influential figures in the Starmer government.

    A fact that was concealed from the British public.

    To some extent this is 'what my cat caught' isn't it?
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,275
    ydoethur said:

    The man with the second worst attendance record at the European Parliament wants to ban working from home.

    To be fair, he wasn't working at all a lot of the time he was absent, unless you count grifting for dodgy foreign businessmen as 'work.'
    Who has the worst attendance record? I see in 2016 he only attended more often than an Irish MEP who was hospitalised.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,387
    edited 5:57PM
    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Okay, so not only are the Russians losing ground and surrendering, but Russia is also now trying to block Telegram - where much of the criticism of the operation has been going down in the past few days.

    https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/2021234831284183174

    https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/2021189044093190282

    I must admit to getting a teeny weeny bit optimistic, for the first time in a long while.
    Agreed. I know these things happen slowly then happen quickly, but it does appear that the Starlink ban was a game changer on the front lines, the Russians relying on dodgy terminals much more than was previously thought.

    They made the mistake of putting them onto drones that crashed in Ukraine, and it took UKR gov and SpaceX about a week to work out a way of blocking non-Ukranian Starlinks in Ukraine.

    Apparently the Ukranians, with possibly some help from the British and Americans, cracked the encryption on Russian radios a couple of years ago, and they’ve been using unconventional methods of communication ever since.
    The Ukrainians warn that the families of Ukrainian POWs are being coerced into registering Russian starlink terminals. There's nothing the Russians won't stoop to.

    Also seems like the Ukrainian defence of Yampil is in some difficulty - the Russians taking advantage of a frozen river.

    The situation still looks extremely hard for the Ukrainians.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,447

    Other than switching Thatcher for Major, which happened less than 18 months before a GE, I'm struggling to see where changing a PM horse midway worked well.

    Callaghan? No. Brown? No. May? Not really? Boris, yes, but he very quickly called a GE. Truss? Lol. Sunak? No. Macmillan for Eden? Fair enough, yes.

    Douglas-Home? No. Even Chamberlain for Churchill (very long wait). No.

    Trudeau for Carney is the modern best-case example.
    Canada is different rules.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,667
    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    Rep. Delia Ramirez to DHS officials: "I have as much respect for you as I do for the last white men who put on masks to terrorize communities of color. I have no respect for the inheritors of the Klanhood and the slave patrol. Those activities were criminal and so are yours."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mejhgv77yv2r

    That's a bit harsh.

    I mean, the KKK would be quite offended at the idea they were doing it for money.
    Offended? Maybe

    But the First Klan was big on “liberating” wealth. Some say that one reason they were suppressed so effectively, was that the Southern Top Chaps found the banditry and lawlessness was threatening *their* position.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 69,627
    Responsibility for Mandelson''s appointment

    https://x.com/i/status/2021273788415881319

  • TazTaz Posts: 24,778

    Taz said:

    It must be bad even Pie has popped up to have a rant about Labour and that Starmer needs to go,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD0kXDKtW7o

    Any sign of Led By Donkeys yet ?
    More stunts about Epstein and Musk.....fingers on the pulse of UK politics.
    Truly holding our political class to account.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,182
    Omnium said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Omnium said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Wisdom of the crowds is bollocks.

    If it wasn't, then the favourite would always win.

    That's not necessarily true:

    Betting markets are indicators of probability. If a runner is available at evens, then you should expect them to win approximately half the time.
    Betting markets are at best perceived probability. There's no truth in them, and they are easily distorted. Brian Rose spent some money and distorted the market so that it was entirely unrepresentative of anyone's view.

    Well, this should be easy enough to analyse.

    Let's take a random selection of -say- 10,000 Betfair markets, and put them into probability buckets, and see how accurate they are.

    I'm going to go with pretty accurate, but there's only one way to find out.
    You'll find that matters are as you suspect on the whole, but anomalous volume or anomalous pricing (against some model ) produces anomalous results.

    But this is precisely what you'd expect anyway.
    I'm not claiming betting markets are perfect.

    I'm disputing the claim that something being the favorite means they always win.

    The crowd is not expressing certainty, but a measure of probability. And those measures of probabiltiy -in aggregate- are broadly right.

    10-1 shots come in around 9% of the time, as you would expect.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,182

    Other than switching Thatcher for Major, which happened less than 18 months before a GE, I'm struggling to see where changing a PM horse midway worked well.

    Callaghan? No. Brown? No. May? Not really? Boris, yes, but he very quickly called a GE. Truss? Lol. Sunak? No. Macmillan for Eden? Fair enough, yes.

    Douglas-Home? No. Even Chamberlain for Churchill (very long wait). No.

    Trudeau for Carney is the modern best-case example.
    Canada is different rules.
    Also, would Carney have won without Trump's actions? It seems Carney benefited (as almost any Liberal leader in Canada would have done) from the Conservatives being seen as too close to a suddenly very unfriendly US administration.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,182

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Okay, so not only are the Russians losing ground and surrendering, but Russia is also now trying to block Telegram - where much of the criticism of the operation has been going down in the past few days.

    https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/2021234831284183174

    https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/2021189044093190282

    I must admit to getting a teeny weeny bit optimistic, for the first time in a long while.
    Agreed. I know these things happen slowly then happen quickly, but it does appear that the Starlink ban was a game changer on the front lines, the Russians relying on dodgy terminals much more than was previously thought.

    They made the mistake of putting them onto drones that crashed in Ukraine, and it took UKR gov and SpaceX about a week to work out a way of blocking non-Ukranian Starlinks in Ukraine.

    Apparently the Ukranians, with possibly some help from the British and Americans, cracked the encryption on Russian radios a couple of years ago, and they’ve been using unconventional methods of communication ever since.
    The Ukrainians warn that the families of Ukrainian POWs are being coerced into registering Russian starlink terminals. There's nothing the Russians won't stoop to.

    Also seems like the Ukrainian defence of Yampil is in some difficulty - the Russians taking advantage of a frozen river.

    The situation still looks extremely hard for the Ukrainians.
    Neverrtheless, four or five months ago, it looked like Ukraine was losing on all fronts.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,778
    eek said:

    algarkirk said:

    New comms. Same as the old comms.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/2021259971019567322

    Whatever is going on in the turmoil of politics, I know that for you and for millions of people, what matters is the cost of living.

    That's why we are taking urgent steps to tackle it head on.

    Freezing rail fares, rolling out free breakfast clubs and free school meals, boosting the National Living Wage and easing energy bills.

    Putting more money in people’s pockets.

    That’s my government’s focus.

    I am, on the whole, in favour of free school meals and stuff like free breakfast clubs. As a recurring USP for the Labour party and government, I think it lacks something. The need for these things is (a) because too many people are too poor and (b) because too many people are too busy. Neither of these factors in any sense commends a Labour (or any) government.

    Few of the recipients who are actually helped will spend any time whatsoever thinking about voting or parliament or government. For the rest of us, 'Free Breakfast Clubs' is a trope as done to death as 'toolmaker'.

    Boosting minimum wage is creating a whole set of incentives not to employ anyone young without experience

    The govt has a solution to solve the problem it is making worse.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c997xyg1r3eo

    Also the decline in hospitality will also not help youth unemployment and this decline seems intentional given influential think tank, Resolution Foundation, has previously advocated for it.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,329

    Nigelb said:

    The man with the second worst attendance record at the European Parliament wants to ban working from home.

    For someone who says you need to attend your place of work, he spends precious little time in his, the HoC.

    Didn't even turn up for the debate on Russian influence. I'm pretty sure he could have shed some interesting light on that.
    It is all a bit nanny state. Instructing organisations independent of government how to arrange their business.
    I see every Leaver's favourite Remoaner has also opined:

    Asda and Marks and Spencer chief executive Lord Rose said in January last year that remote working policies had spawned a generation who are 'not doing proper work'.

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/nigel-farage-calls-for-an-end-to-working-from-home-5HjdS8n_2/

    He was right when he said Brexit would give everyone a wage increase and he'll be right again!
    If you strip away the culture war bullshit

    1) some jobs can be done with certain amounts of WFH.
    2) this varies between 0% and 100% depending on the job
    3) it further varies according to the phase of the work - a team working on a long term project with stable membership vs a team being assembled (say!
    4) it further varies according to the management methodology and the quality of its implementation.
    5) it further varies according to the technical assistance put in by the company and the employee
    6) if further varies according to the level of motivation of the employee and employee.

    So if you are doing steady development work in IT, using Agile, with high quality technical support (VMs, messaging and collaboration tools) with a good quality management and colleagues. And everyone has a nice home office setup… then Yay!

    If you have a bullshit job where everyone has been told to fuck off home, log in from their own computer somehow (laptop balanced on the ironing board), with no collaboration setup or feedback. And management are incompetent and don’t give a shit… then nothing will get done.

    I’ve encountered both.
    Back in the 20th Century there were surveys and experiments showing work was best done in private offices rather than open plan where concentration was constantly broken by noise more than interruptions. Management saw offices as status symbols, with open plan for the riff-raff. WFH often reverses that.
    When I started lecturing in 1969 virtually all staff were in rooms with 8-10 desks. When I finished in 2001 nearly everyone had their own room.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,562
    rcs1000 said:

    Wisdom of the crowds is bollocks.

    If it wasn't, then the favourite would always win.

    That's not necessarily true:

    Betting markets are indicators of probability. If a runner is available at evens, then you should expect them to win approximately half the time.
    Is that really true? If a bookie or an exchange has BOB to win at 2/1 (p=0.33) that's not actually a probability despite the fact that we treat it as a probability of 33% or whatever. It's actually the number at which, when considered with the other elements of the book, the bookie will maximise his profit. I know we treat it as a probability and the bookie will use calibration to assess the accuracy of his book over time (which you only do with probablistic predictions), but what is the theoretical justification for treating it as a probability percentage?

    I realise this is the old French objection of "yes it works in practice but does it work in theory?", but I'd like to know.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,478
    eek said:

    algarkirk said:

    New comms. Same as the old comms.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/2021259971019567322

    Whatever is going on in the turmoil of politics, I know that for you and for millions of people, what matters is the cost of living.

    That's why we are taking urgent steps to tackle it head on.

    Freezing rail fares, rolling out free breakfast clubs and free school meals, boosting the National Living Wage and easing energy bills.

    Putting more money in people’s pockets.

    That’s my government’s focus.

    I am, on the whole, in favour of free school meals and stuff like free breakfast clubs. As a recurring USP for the Labour party and government, I think it lacks something. The need for these things is (a) because too many people are too poor and (b) because too many people are too busy. Neither of these factors in any sense commends a Labour (or any) government.

    Few of the recipients who are actually helped will spend any time whatsoever thinking about voting or parliament or government. For the rest of us, 'Free Breakfast Clubs' is a trope as done to death as 'toolmaker'.

    Boosting minimum wage is creating a whole set of incentives not to employ anyone young without experience
    Follow that thought through in relation to competing in a global market.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,480

    Nigelb said:

    The man with the second worst attendance record at the European Parliament wants to ban working from home.

    For someone who says you need to attend your place of work, he spends precious little time in his, the HoC.

    Didn't even turn up for the debate on Russian influence. I'm pretty sure he could have shed some interesting light on that.
    It is all a bit nanny state. Instructing organisations independent of government how to arrange their business.
    I see every Leaver's favourite Remoaner has also opined:

    Asda and Marks and Spencer chief executive Lord Rose said in January last year that remote working policies had spawned a generation who are 'not doing proper work'.

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/nigel-farage-calls-for-an-end-to-working-from-home-5HjdS8n_2/

    He was right when he said Brexit would give everyone a wage increase and he'll be right again!
    If you strip away the culture war bullshit

    1) some jobs can be done with certain amounts of WFH.
    2) this varies between 0% and 100% depending on the job
    3) it further varies according to the phase of the work - a team working on a long term project with stable membership vs a team being assembled (say!
    4) it further varies according to the management methodology and the quality of its implementation.
    5) it further varies according to the technical assistance put in by the company and the employee
    6) if further varies according to the level of motivation of the employee and employee.

    So if you are doing steady development work in IT, using Agile, with high quality technical support (VMs, messaging and collaboration tools) with a good quality management and colleagues. And everyone has a nice home office setup… then Yay!

    If you have a bullshit job where everyone has been told to fuck off home, log in from their own computer somehow (laptop balanced on the ironing board), with no collaboration setup or feedback. And management are incompetent and don’t give a shit… then nothing will get done.

    I’ve encountered both.
    Back in the 20th Century there were surveys and experiments showing work was best done in private offices rather than open plan where concentration was constantly broken by noise more than interruptions. Management saw offices as status symbols, with open plan for the riff-raff. WFH often reverses that.
    Only for people with enough space at home to have a genuine office without distractions.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,529
    stodge said:

    Omnium said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Wisdom of the crowds is bollocks.

    If it wasn't, then the favourite would always win.

    That's not necessarily true:

    Betting markets are indicators of probability. If a runner is available at evens, then you should expect them to win approximately half the time.
    Betting markets are at best perceived probability. There's no truth in them, and they are easily distorted. Brian Rose spent some money and distorted the market so that it was entirely unrepresentative of anyone's view.

    A market starts as someone's opinion of probability and that becomes "distorted" by the money placed into the market.The greater the liquidity in the market, the more likely it is to be representative of sentiment within the betting community.

    I once spoke to a professional punter at Lingfield of all places - he told me he kept his betting very selective (he only played in particular types of races ignoring all others). He would seek out the races he tended to play and worked up his own tissue based on his assessment of the chances of the individual runners based on detailed form study and would play on the discrepencies - backing or laying as appropriate.

    I'm not sure how successful he was but as a strategy it made a lot of sense. Unless you know as much if not more than the odds makers or the general betting community, you've not got much chance.

    There was a time when political betters knew more than the bookmakers and some of us did very well - now, the bookies have a better feel and the arbs are just not there as they were.
    A good summary.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,950

    Responsibility for Mandelson''s appointment

    https://x.com/i/status/2021273788415881319

    How has David Lammy caught strays or even the wider Labour Party?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,562

    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    Rep. Delia Ramirez to DHS officials: "I have as much respect for you as I do for the last white men who put on masks to terrorize communities of color. I have no respect for the inheritors of the Klanhood and the slave patrol. Those activities were criminal and so are yours."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mejhgv77yv2r

    Some Democrats sound like they want to foment a civil war.
    It's difficult to foment a thing that's been dropped in your lap.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 15,349
    stodge said:

    Omnium said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Wisdom of the crowds is bollocks.

    If it wasn't, then the favourite would always win.

    That's not necessarily true:

    Betting markets are indicators of probability. If a runner is available at evens, then you should expect them to win approximately half the time.
    Betting markets are at best perceived probability. There's no truth in them, and they are easily distorted. Brian Rose spent some money and distorted the market so that it was entirely unrepresentative of anyone's view.

    A market starts as someone's opinion of probability and that becomes "distorted" by the money placed into the market.The greater the liquidity in the market, the more likely it is to be representative of sentiment within the betting community.

    I once spoke to a professional punter at Lingfield of all places - he told me he kept his betting very selective (he only played in particular types of races ignoring all others). He would seek out the races he tended to play and worked up his own tissue based on his assessment of the chances of the individual runners based on detailed form study and would play on the discrepencies - backing or laying as appropriate.

    I'm not sure how successful he was but as a strategy it made a lot of sense. Unless you know as much if not more than the odds makers or the general betting community, you've not got much chance.

    There was a time when political betters knew more than the bookmakers and some of us did very well - now, the bookies have a better feel and the arbs are just not there as they were.
    Your last paragraph is particularly accurate, Stodge. It's part of the reason why I no longer bet seriously, but just for fun and to modest amounts.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 37,413

    Responsibility for Mandelson''s appointment

    https://x.com/i/status/2021273788415881319

    I don't believe that is controversial. Even those rooting for Starmer should concede Mandelson was ultimately his call.

    Are we looking forward to the next gold standard FoN? What do we reckon? MY PREDICTION Ref 35, Con 25 Green 20 Lib Dem 10 Lab 5 Others 5 RefCon60!
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,126
    Taz said:

    eek said:

    algarkirk said:

    New comms. Same as the old comms.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/2021259971019567322

    Whatever is going on in the turmoil of politics, I know that for you and for millions of people, what matters is the cost of living.

    That's why we are taking urgent steps to tackle it head on.

    Freezing rail fares, rolling out free breakfast clubs and free school meals, boosting the National Living Wage and easing energy bills.

    Putting more money in people’s pockets.

    That’s my government’s focus.

    I am, on the whole, in favour of free school meals and stuff like free breakfast clubs. As a recurring USP for the Labour party and government, I think it lacks something. The need for these things is (a) because too many people are too poor and (b) because too many people are too busy. Neither of these factors in any sense commends a Labour (or any) government.

    Few of the recipients who are actually helped will spend any time whatsoever thinking about voting or parliament or government. For the rest of us, 'Free Breakfast Clubs' is a trope as done to death as 'toolmaker'.

    Boosting minimum wage is creating a whole set of incentives not to employ anyone young without experience

    The govt has a solution to solve the problem it is making worse.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c997xyg1r3eo

    Also the decline in hospitality will also not help youth unemployment and this decline seems intentional given influential think tank, Resolution Foundation, has previously advocated for it.
    Loads of bar work in France. They could get a job and learn a language and have a great time. Don't blame the government blame Badenoch and Farage.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,562

    ...Your last paragraph is particularly accurate, Stodge. It's part of the reason why I no longer bet seriously, but just for fun and to modest amounts.

    Peter_the_not_Punter :(

  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 298

    Responsibility for Mandelson''s appointment

    https://x.com/i/status/2021273788415881319

    I don't believe that is controversial. Even those rooting for Starmer should concede Mandelson was ultimately his call.

    Are we looking forward to the next gold standard FoN? What do we reckon? MY PREDICTION Ref 35, Con 25 Green 20 Lib Dem 10 Lab 5 Others 5 RefCon60!
    It's Starmers csll

    Unlike Boris

    He's owned it

    He's apologised for it.

    Now it may suit some to drone on and on and on.

    Starmer is PM

    He has a mandate
    He has a mandate to deliver policy and to deliver results


    If others with no policy, no agenda other than to drone on and on day after day. Let them.

    The public will soon see who are serious and who are playing junior school debating and poorly.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,778
    My picture of the day

    From a Turkish Barber in Glasgow.

    The one at the bottom makes him look like a boybander. From the nineties.


  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,731

    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    Rep. Delia Ramirez to DHS officials: "I have as much respect for you as I do for the last white men who put on masks to terrorize communities of color. I have no respect for the inheritors of the Klanhood and the slave patrol. Those activities were criminal and so are yours."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mejhgv77yv2r

    Some Democrats sound like they want to foment a civil war.
    The war started already. They're just fighting back.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,950
    A former Labour councillor sent a video of his penis to what he thought was a 13-year-old girl, a court has heard.

    Liron Velleman, 30, sent online messages to the “girl” asking to see her in her pyjamas and bra, Highbury Corner magistrates’ court was told. He did not know he was actually in contact with a Metropolitan Police officer. Velleman carried out the offences from Dec 3 to Dec 10 2024, during his time as a councillor for Barnet, north London.

    He was elected in 2022 and assisted in drafting the Online Safety Act.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/02/10/former-labour-councillor-sent-video-penis-to-13-year-old/
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 35,115

    Nigelb said:

    The man with the second worst attendance record at the European Parliament wants to ban working from home.

    For someone who says you need to attend your place of work, he spends precious little time in his, the HoC.

    Didn't even turn up for the debate on Russian influence. I'm pretty sure he could have shed some interesting light on that.
    It is all a bit nanny state. Instructing organisations independent of government how to arrange their business.
    I see every Leaver's favourite Remoaner has also opined:

    Asda and Marks and Spencer chief executive Lord Rose said in January last year that remote working policies had spawned a generation who are 'not doing proper work'.

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/nigel-farage-calls-for-an-end-to-working-from-home-5HjdS8n_2/

    He was right when he said Brexit would give everyone a wage increase and he'll be right again!
    If you strip away the culture war bullshit

    1) some jobs can be done with certain amounts of WFH.
    2) this varies between 0% and 100% depending on the job
    3) it further varies according to the phase of the work - a team working on a long term project with stable membership vs a team being assembled (say!
    4) it further varies according to the management methodology and the quality of its implementation.
    5) it further varies according to the technical assistance put in by the company and the employee
    6) if further varies according to the level of motivation of the employee and employee.

    So if you are doing steady development work in IT, using Agile, with high quality technical support (VMs, messaging and collaboration tools) with a good quality management and colleagues. And everyone has a nice home office setup… then Yay!

    If you have a bullshit job where everyone has been told to fuck off home, log in from their own computer somehow (laptop balanced on the ironing board), with no collaboration setup or feedback. And management are incompetent and don’t give a shit… then nothing will get done.

    I’ve encountered both.
    Back in the 20th Century there were surveys and experiments showing work was best done in private offices rather than open plan where concentration was constantly broken by noise more than interruptions. Management saw offices as status symbols, with open plan for the riff-raff. WFH often reverses that.
    Only for people with enough space at home to have a genuine office without distractions.
    Yes. We were WFH years before the pandemic and it was noticeable how many carved out "home offices" in the garage, shed or spare bedroom.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 298
    Roger said:

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    algarkirk said:

    New comms. Same as the old comms.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/2021259971019567322

    Whatever is going on in the turmoil of politics, I know that for you and for millions of people, what matters is the cost of living.

    That's why we are taking urgent steps to tackle it head on.

    Freezing rail fares, rolling out free breakfast clubs and free school meals, boosting the National Living Wage and easing energy bills.

    Putting more money in people’s pockets.

    That’s my government’s focus.

    I am, on the whole, in favour of free school meals and stuff like free breakfast clubs. As a recurring USP for the Labour party and government, I think it lacks something. The need for these things is (a) because too many people are too poor and (b) because too many people are too busy. Neither of these factors in any sense commends a Labour (or any) government.

    Few of the recipients who are actually helped will spend any time whatsoever thinking about voting or parliament or government. For the rest of us, 'Free Breakfast Clubs' is a trope as done to death as 'toolmaker'.

    Boosting minimum wage is creating a whole set of incentives not to employ anyone young without experience

    The govt has a solution to solve the problem it is making worse.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c997xyg1r3eo

    Also the decline in hospitality will also not help youth unemployment and this decline seems intentional given influential think tank, Resolution Foundation, has previously advocated for it.
    Loads of bar work in France. They could get a job and learn a language and have a great time. Don't blame the government blame Badenoch and Farage.
    Spot on again Roger

    At least Labour will deliver that option soon.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,950
    The EU has moved closer to creating offshore centres for migrants and asylum seekers, after centre-right and far-right MEPs united for tougher migration policies.

    MEPs voted for legal changes that will give authorities more options to deport asylum seekers, including sending people to countries they have never been to.

    Under the new rules, expected to apply from June, a person seeking asylum can be deported to a country outside the EU, even if they have only passed through it, or to a place to which they have no link, as long as a European government has signed an agreement with the receiving state.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/10/eu-moves-closer-to-creating-offshore-centres-for-migrants-and-asylum-seekers
  • LeonLeon Posts: 66,502

    The EU has moved closer to creating offshore centres for migrants and asylum seekers, after centre-right and far-right MEPs united for tougher migration policies.

    MEPs voted for legal changes that will give authorities more options to deport asylum seekers, including sending people to countries they have never been to.

    Under the new rules, expected to apply from June, a person seeking asylum can be deported to a country outside the EU, even if they have only passed through it, or to a place to which they have no link, as long as a European government has signed an agreement with the receiving state.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/10/eu-moves-closer-to-creating-offshore-centres-for-migrants-and-asylum-seekers

    Speaking of which

    “Afghan asylum seeker found guilty of abducting and raping 12-year-old girl in Nuneaton, UK”

    He’d been in the country FOUR MONTHS then he kidnapped raped and strangled a twelve year old girl who was just playing on a swing

    https://x.com/bbcbreaking/status/2021250960014668262?s=46
  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,233
    Taz said:

    My picture of the day

    From a Turkish Barber in Glasgow.

    The one at the bottom makes him look like a boybander. From the nineties.


    More like a footballer, Jackboot Grealish.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,667
    Brixian59 said:

    Roger said:

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    algarkirk said:

    New comms. Same as the old comms.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/2021259971019567322

    Whatever is going on in the turmoil of politics, I know that for you and for millions of people, what matters is the cost of living.

    That's why we are taking urgent steps to tackle it head on.

    Freezing rail fares, rolling out free breakfast clubs and free school meals, boosting the National Living Wage and easing energy bills.

    Putting more money in people’s pockets.

    That’s my government’s focus.

    I am, on the whole, in favour of free school meals and stuff like free breakfast clubs. As a recurring USP for the Labour party and government, I think it lacks something. The need for these things is (a) because too many people are too poor and (b) because too many people are too busy. Neither of these factors in any sense commends a Labour (or any) government.

    Few of the recipients who are actually helped will spend any time whatsoever thinking about voting or parliament or government. For the rest of us, 'Free Breakfast Clubs' is a trope as done to death as 'toolmaker'.

    Boosting minimum wage is creating a whole set of incentives not to employ anyone young without experience

    The govt has a solution to solve the problem it is making worse.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c997xyg1r3eo

    Also the decline in hospitality will also not help youth unemployment and this decline seems intentional given influential think tank, Resolution Foundation, has previously advocated for it.
    Loads of bar work in France. They could get a job and learn a language and have a great time. Don't blame the government blame Badenoch and Farage.
    Spot on again Roger

    At least Labour will deliver that option soon.
    Youth unemployment is higher in France than in the U.K.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,239
    Minor but hilarious defection news. Peter Bones ex wife defected to Reform on N Northants council this week.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,491
    edited 6:39PM
    Brixian59 said:

    Responsibility for Mandelson''s appointment

    https://x.com/i/status/2021273788415881319

    I don't believe that is controversial. Even those rooting for Starmer should concede Mandelson was ultimately his call.

    Are we looking forward to the next gold standard FoN? What do we reckon? MY PREDICTION Ref 35, Con 25 Green 20 Lib Dem 10 Lab 5 Others 5 RefCon60!
    It's Starmers csll

    Unlike Boris

    He's owned it

    He's apologised for it.

    Now it may suit some to drone on and on and on.

    Starmer is PM

    He has a mandate
    He has a mandate to deliver policy and to deliver results


    If others with no policy, no agenda other than to drone on and on day after day. Let them.

    The public will soon see who are serious and who are playing junior school debating and poorly.
    Hes done fuck all.. just a load of u turns.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 57,480
    Leon said:

    The EU has moved closer to creating offshore centres for migrants and asylum seekers, after centre-right and far-right MEPs united for tougher migration policies.

    MEPs voted for legal changes that will give authorities more options to deport asylum seekers, including sending people to countries they have never been to.

    Under the new rules, expected to apply from June, a person seeking asylum can be deported to a country outside the EU, even if they have only passed through it, or to a place to which they have no link, as long as a European government has signed an agreement with the receiving state.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/10/eu-moves-closer-to-creating-offshore-centres-for-migrants-and-asylum-seekers

    Speaking of which

    “Afghan asylum seeker found guilty of abducting and raping 12-year-old girl in Nuneaton, UK”

    He’d been in the country FOUR MONTHS then he kidnapped raped and strangled a twelve year old girl who was just playing on a swing

    https://x.com/bbcbreaking/status/2021250960014668262?s=46
    And yet members of the great and the good feel no embarrassment about saying things like this:

    https://x.com/DeborahMeaden/status/2019447197226443006

    All immigrants are net contributors.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 69,627

    Responsibility for Mandelson''s appointment

    https://x.com/i/status/2021273788415881319

    How has David Lammy caught strays or even the wider Labour Party?
    Foreign Secretary ?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,667

    Nigelb said:

    The man with the second worst attendance record at the European Parliament wants to ban working from home.

    For someone who says you need to attend your place of work, he spends precious little time in his, the HoC.

    Didn't even turn up for the debate on Russian influence. I'm pretty sure he could have shed some interesting light on that.
    It is all a bit nanny state. Instructing organisations independent of government how to arrange their business.
    I see every Leaver's favourite Remoaner has also opined:

    Asda and Marks and Spencer chief executive Lord Rose said in January last year that remote working policies had spawned a generation who are 'not doing proper work'.

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/nigel-farage-calls-for-an-end-to-working-from-home-5HjdS8n_2/

    He was right when he said Brexit would give everyone a wage increase and he'll be right again!
    If you strip away the culture war bullshit

    1) some jobs can be done with certain amounts of WFH.
    2) this varies between 0% and 100% depending on the job
    3) it further varies according to the phase of the work - a team working on a long term project with stable membership vs a team being assembled (say!
    4) it further varies according to the management methodology and the quality of its implementation.
    5) it further varies according to the technical assistance put in by the company and the employee
    6) if further varies according to the level of motivation of the employee and employee.

    So if you are doing steady development work in IT, using Agile, with high quality technical support (VMs, messaging and collaboration tools) with a good quality management and colleagues. And everyone has a nice home office setup… then Yay!

    If you have a bullshit job where everyone has been told to fuck off home, log in from their own computer somehow (laptop balanced on the ironing board), with no collaboration setup or feedback. And management are incompetent and don’t give a shit… then nothing will get done.

    I’ve encountered both.
    Back in the 20th Century there were surveys and experiments showing work was best done in private offices rather than open plan where concentration was constantly broken by noise more than interruptions. Management saw offices as status symbols, with open plan for the riff-raff. WFH often reverses that.
    Only for people with enough space at home to have a genuine office without distractions.
    Yes. We were WFH years before the pandemic and it was noticeable how many carved out "home offices" in the garage, shed or spare bedroom.
    The slight problem is those who do not have garages, shed or spare bedrooms.

    Very large numbers of people are either living in flats which are tiny or in MHOs.

    Balancing a laptop on the ironing board in the living room, with 3 other people trying to work etc.

    If you want WFH, then a spare bedroom is needed as standard, usually. Which will upset the contingent on PB who want everyone carefully slotted into the minimum accommodation space.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,778
    boulay said:

    Taz said:

    My picture of the day

    From a Turkish Barber in Glasgow.

    The one at the bottom makes him look like a boybander. From the nineties.


    More like a footballer, Jackboot Grealish.
    Well two of these from hard rock icons, A1, fit the bill.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/boybands/comments/1cm6m7i/a1_have_been_around_for_26_years_but_theyre_still/

    As for Jack Groilish, as he pronounces it, yeah, he too.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,515
    I think that Keir Starmer’s parents must have been absolute bastards

    A tool factory owner and a nurse used to sit their kids down at the kitchen table to tell them that there was no money to pay the bills

    Or maybe someone is fabricating
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,950
    edited 6:44PM
    Just saw the rubbish trailor for Baby Yoda movie that they ran during the Hand Egg Championship, the VFX were really bad...Seed Dance could make a better trailer.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,387
    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Okay, so not only are the Russians losing ground and surrendering, but Russia is also now trying to block Telegram - where much of the criticism of the operation has been going down in the past few days.

    https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/2021234831284183174

    https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/2021189044093190282

    I must admit to getting a teeny weeny bit optimistic, for the first time in a long while.
    Agreed. I know these things happen slowly then happen quickly, but it does appear that the Starlink ban was a game changer on the front lines, the Russians relying on dodgy terminals much more than was previously thought.

    They made the mistake of putting them onto drones that crashed in Ukraine, and it took UKR gov and SpaceX about a week to work out a way of blocking non-Ukranian Starlinks in Ukraine.

    Apparently the Ukranians, with possibly some help from the British and Americans, cracked the encryption on Russian radios a couple of years ago, and they’ve been using unconventional methods of communication ever since.
    The Ukrainians warn that the families of Ukrainian POWs are being coerced into registering Russian starlink terminals. There's nothing the Russians won't stoop to.

    Also seems like the Ukrainian defence of Yampil is in some difficulty - the Russians taking advantage of a frozen river.

    The situation still looks extremely hard for the Ukrainians.
    Neverrtheless, four or five months ago, it looked like Ukraine was losing on all fronts.
    Not really. The situation was not as bad then as some reported it, and I'd say it's not as good as you and Sandpit would have it today. Little has changed.

    Ukraine continue to be let down by the West who are failing to provide it with enough support to win, and also failing to ensure that critical Western components don't make their way to Russia. Just recently Russian plans for a big expansion of a plant manufacturing artillery barrels has emerged - using western machinery.

    The enforcement of sanctions against Russia has been half-hearted, and European leaders still behave as though Trump will strongarm the Russians into a ceasefire so that they don't have to do anything difficult.

    The Ukrainians are doing amazingly against the odds, but I feel very bad about how we've failed them.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 15,349
    viewcode said:

    ...Your last paragraph is particularly accurate, Stodge. It's part of the reason why I no longer bet seriously, but just for fun and to modest amounts.

    Peter_the_not_Punter :(

    Well, only occasional and then mostly for fun, but that's a bit of a mouthful.

  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 69,627
    Roger said:

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    algarkirk said:

    New comms. Same as the old comms.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/2021259971019567322

    Whatever is going on in the turmoil of politics, I know that for you and for millions of people, what matters is the cost of living.

    That's why we are taking urgent steps to tackle it head on.

    Freezing rail fares, rolling out free breakfast clubs and free school meals, boosting the National Living Wage and easing energy bills.

    Putting more money in people’s pockets.

    That’s my government’s focus.

    I am, on the whole, in favour of free school meals and stuff like free breakfast clubs. As a recurring USP for the Labour party and government, I think it lacks something. The need for these things is (a) because too many people are too poor and (b) because too many people are too busy. Neither of these factors in any sense commends a Labour (or any) government.

    Few of the recipients who are actually helped will spend any time whatsoever thinking about voting or parliament or government. For the rest of us, 'Free Breakfast Clubs' is a trope as done to death as 'toolmaker'.

    Boosting minimum wage is creating a whole set of incentives not to employ anyone young without experience

    The govt has a solution to solve the problem it is making worse.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c997xyg1r3eo

    Also the decline in hospitality will also not help youth unemployment and this decline seems intentional given influential think tank, Resolution Foundation, has previously advocated for it.
    Loads of bar work in France. They could get a job and learn a language and have a great time. Don't blame the government blame Badenoch and Farage.
    What's that to do with UK minimum wage policy
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,778
    An optimistic tweet here, with article, from a former editor of Labourlist. Got to be true.

    ‘ NEW: Labour is increasingly confident that it could hold Gorton and Denton

    And after blocking Andy Burnham from running as the candidate, it is relying on him to help win the by-election’

    https://x.com/siennamarla/status/2021273348165017658?s=61
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,107

    Just saw the rubbish trailor for Baby Yoda movie that they ran during the Hand Egg Championship, the VFX were really bad...Seed Dance could make a better trailer.

    I've not seen it, but I recall seeing a comment once saying people shouldn't condemn poor CGI in trailers, as the movie is not yet a finished product.

    Which is true, but a really dumb way to look at things, since even if they've not finished the whole movie the visual effects in the trailer at least should be done, since it is supposed to convince us to watch the damn thing.

    Not every movie would then be able to pull a Sonic and fix the problems.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,950
    edited 6:49PM
    kle4 said:

    Just saw the rubbish trailor for Baby Yoda movie that they ran during the Hand Egg Championship, the VFX were really bad...Seed Dance could make a better trailer.

    I've not seen it, but I recall seeing a comment once saying people shouldn't condemn poor CGI in trailers, as the movie is not yet a finished product.

    Which is true, but a really dumb way to look at things, since even if they've not finished the whole movie the visual effects in the trailer at least should be done, since it is supposed to convince us to watch the damn thing.

    Not every movie would then be able to pull a Sonic and fix the problems.
    Well now we have these amazing video ML models peoples expectations are way higher. Reallly bad VFX really stands out.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,239
    https://x.com/i/status/2021273348165017658

    Lol Labour are trying to manifest a recovery by wishing it.
    I hear CCHQ are certain Susan Hall has a real chance too
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,950
    edited 6:52PM

    Leon said:

    The EU has moved closer to creating offshore centres for migrants and asylum seekers, after centre-right and far-right MEPs united for tougher migration policies.

    MEPs voted for legal changes that will give authorities more options to deport asylum seekers, including sending people to countries they have never been to.

    Under the new rules, expected to apply from June, a person seeking asylum can be deported to a country outside the EU, even if they have only passed through it, or to a place to which they have no link, as long as a European government has signed an agreement with the receiving state.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/10/eu-moves-closer-to-creating-offshore-centres-for-migrants-and-asylum-seekers

    Speaking of which

    “Afghan asylum seeker found guilty of abducting and raping 12-year-old girl in Nuneaton, UK”

    He’d been in the country FOUR MONTHS then he kidnapped raped and strangled a twelve year old girl who was just playing on a swing

    https://x.com/bbcbreaking/status/2021250960014668262?s=46
    And yet members of the great and the good feel no embarrassment about saying things like this:

    https://x.com/DeborahMeaden/status/2019447197226443006

    All immigrants are net contributors.
    She long fell victim to the curse of semi-famous middle aged becoming a social media obsessive with the "correct opinions".
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,126
    Taz said:

    My picture of the day

    From a Turkish Barber in Glasgow.

    The one at the bottom makes him look like a boybander. From the nineties.


    if I could stand looking at him i'd give you a like!
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,778
    edited 6:54PM

    Leon said:

    The EU has moved closer to creating offshore centres for migrants and asylum seekers, after centre-right and far-right MEPs united for tougher migration policies.

    MEPs voted for legal changes that will give authorities more options to deport asylum seekers, including sending people to countries they have never been to.

    Under the new rules, expected to apply from June, a person seeking asylum can be deported to a country outside the EU, even if they have only passed through it, or to a place to which they have no link, as long as a European government has signed an agreement with the receiving state.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/10/eu-moves-closer-to-creating-offshore-centres-for-migrants-and-asylum-seekers

    Speaking of which

    “Afghan asylum seeker found guilty of abducting and raping 12-year-old girl in Nuneaton, UK”

    He’d been in the country FOUR MONTHS then he kidnapped raped and strangled a twelve year old girl who was just playing on a swing

    https://x.com/bbcbreaking/status/2021250960014668262?s=46
    And yet members of the great and the good feel no embarrassment about saying things like this:

    https://x.com/DeborahMeaden/status/2019447197226443006

    All immigrants are net contributors.
    She long fell victim to the curse of semi-famous middle aged becoming a social media obsessive with the "correct opinions".
    Vorderman syndrome ?

    She also credited Rachel Reeves with the FTSE100 exceeding 10,000 🙄
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,737

    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    Rep. Delia Ramirez to DHS officials: "I have as much respect for you as I do for the last white men who put on masks to terrorize communities of color. I have no respect for the inheritors of the Klanhood and the slave patrol. Those activities were criminal and so are yours."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mejhgv77yv2r

    Some Democrats sound like they want to foment a civil war.
    Donald Trump should stop killing his own people.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,778
    Roger said:

    Taz said:

    My picture of the day

    From a Turkish Barber in Glasgow.

    The one at the bottom makes him look like a boybander. From the nineties.


    if I could stand looking at him i'd give you a like!
    I’ll take one in spirit.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,387
    Cyclefree said:

    Some of you may remember that it was only when Ivan Boesky in the US started spilling the beans that the Guinness / Distillers scandal was uncovered. And now Mandelson's behaviour was only uncovered because of what the US authorities held and released.

    This doesn't really say much for our authorities' ability to catch wrongdoers here.

    Yes. The fear is that there's lots of wrongdoing not caught up in a US scandal that's consequently not being discovered.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,239

    Leon said:

    The EU has moved closer to creating offshore centres for migrants and asylum seekers, after centre-right and far-right MEPs united for tougher migration policies.

    MEPs voted for legal changes that will give authorities more options to deport asylum seekers, including sending people to countries they have never been to.

    Under the new rules, expected to apply from June, a person seeking asylum can be deported to a country outside the EU, even if they have only passed through it, or to a place to which they have no link, as long as a European government has signed an agreement with the receiving state.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/10/eu-moves-closer-to-creating-offshore-centres-for-migrants-and-asylum-seekers

    Speaking of which

    “Afghan asylum seeker found guilty of abducting and raping 12-year-old girl in Nuneaton, UK”

    He’d been in the country FOUR MONTHS then he kidnapped raped and strangled a twelve year old girl who was just playing on a swing

    https://x.com/bbcbreaking/status/2021250960014668262?s=46
    And yet members of the great and the good feel no embarrassment about saying things like this:

    https://x.com/DeborahMeaden/status/2019447197226443006

    All immigrants are net contributors.
    She long fell victim to the curse of semi-famous middle aged becoming a social media obsessive with the "correct opinions".
    I always wait to see what the twins from Fun House think before I commit
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,107

    Cyclefree said:

    Some of you may remember that it was only when Ivan Boesky in the US started spilling the beans that the Guinness / Distillers scandal was uncovered. And now Mandelson's behaviour was only uncovered because of what the US authorities held and released.

    This doesn't really say much for our authorities' ability to catch wrongdoers here.

    Yes. The fear is that there's lots of wrongdoing not caught up in a US scandal that's consequently not being discovered.
    Just sticking with the leaking stuff for a moment, I would be astonished if Mandelson had been the only one at it, the casual treatment of state secrets and basic data security seems to be part of the standard politician package.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,049

    https://x.com/i/status/2021273348165017658

    Lol Labour are trying to manifest a recovery by wishing it.
    I hear CCHQ are certain Susan Hall has a real chance too

    Yes, I recall a number of tweets claiming she had won on the Thursday evening and Friday after the polls closed and before a single vote had been counted....
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 15,239
    edited 7:01PM
    stodge said:

    https://x.com/i/status/2021273348165017658

    Lol Labour are trying to manifest a recovery by wishing it.
    I hear CCHQ are certain Susan Hall has a real chance too

    Yes, I recall a number of tweets claiming she had won on the Thursday evening and Friday after the polls closed and before a single vote had been counted....
    One of the more bizarre moments of 2022 (edit 2024!)
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 35,115
    Taz said:

    An optimistic tweet here, with article, from a former editor of Labourlist. Got to be true.

    ‘ NEW: Labour is increasingly confident that it could hold Gorton and Denton

    And after blocking Andy Burnham from running as the candidate, it is relying on him to help win the by-election’

    https://x.com/siennamarla/status/2021273348165017658?s=61

    MRDA for all parties talking up their by-election prospects, especially if reliant on canvassing data from voters who agreed to talk to that party.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,387
    Taz said:

    My picture of the day

    From a Turkish Barber in Glasgow.

    The one at the bottom makes him look like a boybander. From the nineties.


    This was apparently done out of frustration with Farage alleging that all Turkish barbers were fronts for criminal activity, rather than genuine businesses.

    When I was in Edinburgh I did end up using the local Turkish barber who had a cage of songbirds on the premises. Not sure if that was a sign for the police of their willingness to talk if necessary.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,950
    Taz said:

    Leon said:

    The EU has moved closer to creating offshore centres for migrants and asylum seekers, after centre-right and far-right MEPs united for tougher migration policies.

    MEPs voted for legal changes that will give authorities more options to deport asylum seekers, including sending people to countries they have never been to.

    Under the new rules, expected to apply from June, a person seeking asylum can be deported to a country outside the EU, even if they have only passed through it, or to a place to which they have no link, as long as a European government has signed an agreement with the receiving state.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/10/eu-moves-closer-to-creating-offshore-centres-for-migrants-and-asylum-seekers

    Speaking of which

    “Afghan asylum seeker found guilty of abducting and raping 12-year-old girl in Nuneaton, UK”

    He’d been in the country FOUR MONTHS then he kidnapped raped and strangled a twelve year old girl who was just playing on a swing

    https://x.com/bbcbreaking/status/2021250960014668262?s=46
    And yet members of the great and the good feel no embarrassment about saying things like this:

    https://x.com/DeborahMeaden/status/2019447197226443006

    All immigrants are net contributors.
    She long fell victim to the curse of semi-famous middle aged becoming a social media obsessive with the "correct opinions".
    Vorderman syndrome ?

    She also credited Rachel Reeves with the FTSE100 exceeding 10,000 🙄
    The likes of Vorderman and Gary Neville seem to have gone a lot quieter since the GE.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,387
    kle4 said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Some of you may remember that it was only when Ivan Boesky in the US started spilling the beans that the Guinness / Distillers scandal was uncovered. And now Mandelson's behaviour was only uncovered because of what the US authorities held and released.

    This doesn't really say much for our authorities' ability to catch wrongdoers here.

    Yes. The fear is that there's lots of wrongdoing not caught up in a US scandal that's consequently not being discovered.
    Just sticking with the leaking stuff for a moment, I would be astonished if Mandelson had been the only one at it, the casual treatment of state secrets and basic data security seems to be part of the standard politician package.
    Yes. They get used to doing it with the Press in exchange for favourable coverage, and then why not to friends and donors?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,447
    rcs1000 said:

    Other than switching Thatcher for Major, which happened less than 18 months before a GE, I'm struggling to see where changing a PM horse midway worked well.

    Callaghan? No. Brown? No. May? Not really? Boris, yes, but he very quickly called a GE. Truss? Lol. Sunak? No. Macmillan for Eden? Fair enough, yes.

    Douglas-Home? No. Even Chamberlain for Churchill (very long wait). No.

    Trudeau for Carney is the modern best-case example.
    Canada is different rules.
    Also, would Carney have won without Trump's actions? It seems Carney benefited (as almost any Liberal leader in Canada would have done) from the Conservatives being seen as too close to a suddenly very unfriendly US administration.
    No.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 298

    Taz said:

    Leon said:

    The EU has moved closer to creating offshore centres for migrants and asylum seekers, after centre-right and far-right MEPs united for tougher migration policies.

    MEPs voted for legal changes that will give authorities more options to deport asylum seekers, including sending people to countries they have never been to.

    Under the new rules, expected to apply from June, a person seeking asylum can be deported to a country outside the EU, even if they have only passed through it, or to a place to which they have no link, as long as a European government has signed an agreement with the receiving state.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/10/eu-moves-closer-to-creating-offshore-centres-for-migrants-and-asylum-seekers

    Speaking of which

    “Afghan asylum seeker found guilty of abducting and raping 12-year-old girl in Nuneaton, UK”

    He’d been in the country FOUR MONTHS then he kidnapped raped and strangled a twelve year old girl who was just playing on a swing

    https://x.com/bbcbreaking/status/2021250960014668262?s=46
    And yet members of the great and the good feel no embarrassment about saying things like this:

    https://x.com/DeborahMeaden/status/2019447197226443006

    All immigrants are net contributors.
    She long fell victim to the curse of semi-famous middle aged becoming a social media obsessive with the "correct opinions".
    Vorderman syndrome ?

    She also credited Rachel Reeves with the FTSE100 exceeding 10,000 🙄
    The likes of Vorderman and Gary Neville seem to have gone a lot quieter since the GE.
    Virdernan plans to stand against Farage in Clacton
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 133,930
    Starmer will likely survive until May, whether he survives beyond that depends largely on whether Labour beat the Tories for second on NEV and seats won then in the local and devolved elections
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,049

    Nigelb said:

    The man with the second worst attendance record at the European Parliament wants to ban working from home.

    For someone who says you need to attend your place of work, he spends precious little time in his, the HoC.

    Didn't even turn up for the debate on Russian influence. I'm pretty sure he could have shed some interesting light on that.
    It is all a bit nanny state. Instructing organisations independent of government how to arrange their business.
    I see every Leaver's favourite Remoaner has also opined:

    Asda and Marks and Spencer chief executive Lord Rose said in January last year that remote working policies had spawned a generation who are 'not doing proper work'.

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/nigel-farage-calls-for-an-end-to-working-from-home-5HjdS8n_2/

    He was right when he said Brexit would give everyone a wage increase and he'll be right again!
    If you strip away the culture war bullshit

    1) some jobs can be done with certain amounts of WFH.
    2) this varies between 0% and 100% depending on the job
    3) it further varies according to the phase of the work - a team working on a long term project with stable membership vs a team being assembled (say!
    4) it further varies according to the management methodology and the quality of its implementation.
    5) it further varies according to the technical assistance put in by the company and the employee
    6) if further varies according to the level of motivation of the employee and employee.

    So if you are doing steady development work in IT, using Agile, with high quality technical support (VMs, messaging and collaboration tools) with a good quality management and colleagues. And everyone has a nice home office setup… then Yay!

    If you have a bullshit job where everyone has been told to fuck off home, log in from their own computer somehow (laptop balanced on the ironing board), with no collaboration setup or feedback. And management are incompetent and don’t give a shit… then nothing will get done.

    I’ve encountered both.
    Back in the 20th Century there were surveys and experiments showing work was best done in private offices rather than open plan where concentration was constantly broken by noise more than interruptions. Management saw offices as status symbols, with open plan for the riff-raff. WFH often reverses that.
    Only for people with enough space at home to have a genuine office without distractions.
    Yes. We were WFH years before the pandemic and it was noticeable how many carved out "home offices" in the garage, shed or spare bedroom.
    The slight problem is those who do not have garages, shed or spare bedrooms.

    Very large numbers of people are either living in flats which are tiny or in MHOs.

    Balancing a laptop on the ironing board in the living room, with 3 other people trying to work etc.

    If you want WFH, then a spare bedroom is needed as standard, usually. Which will upset the contingent on PB who want everyone carefully slotted into the minimum accommodation space.
    I worked from home before the pandemic and of course during the pandemic. Before, it started at a day per week and was eventually three days a week before COVID.

    The transition to full time home working wasn't too difficult but not without some issues. For others in the team, it was very difficult and after the initial couple of weeks of "Dunkirk Spirit" and daily Teams calls you could tell who was hating every second of it and those who were wondering why they had never worked at home before.

    It was down not just to circumstances (both physical and emotional) but to character and it was a real eye opener as far as I was concerned. People who I thought were resilient suddenly looked vulnerable while others blossomed both personally and professionally.

    It should never be forced on anyone (the pandemic was hopefully a unique event) but nor it should be forcibly denied to anyone (J P Morgan and Reform take note). Mature organisations should be flexible enough and empathic enough to recognise that for some individuals working outside the office at times can be beneficial but it's not for everyone and those organisations for whom the physical and psychological wellbeing of staff matters (not all by any stretch) will be able to assess the individual and corporate requirement and create mutually beneficial solutions.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,107
    HYUFD said:

    Starmer will likely survive until May, whether he survives beyond that depends largely on whether Labour beat the Tories for second on NEV and seats won then in the local and devolved elections

    I predict Badenoch goes before Starmer does.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,979
    algarkirk said:

    New comms. Same as the old comms.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/2021259971019567322

    Whatever is going on in the turmoil of politics, I know that for you and for millions of people, what matters is the cost of living.

    That's why we are taking urgent steps to tackle it head on.

    Freezing rail fares, rolling out free breakfast clubs and free school meals, boosting the National Living Wage and easing energy bills.

    Putting more money in people’s pockets.

    That’s my government’s focus.

    I am, on the whole, in favour of free school meals and stuff like free breakfast clubs. As a recurring USP for the Labour party and government, I think it lacks something. The need for these things is (a) because too many people are too poor and (b) because too many people are too busy. Neither of these factors in any sense commends a Labour (or any) government.

    Few of the recipients who are actually helped will spend any time whatsoever thinking about voting or parliament or government. For the rest of us, 'Free Breakfast Clubs' is a trope as done to death as 'toolmaker'.

    It's not just inadequate, it's disastrous. Breakfast provided by schools might be a good idea where family life has been broken and the alternative is a hungry child. Starmer's loathsome post is presenting not giving your child breakfast as a handy dodge to get you through the cost of living crisis. It is despicable, and typically Labour. Blair (or it could have been Brown) complained that people in Britain were not dependent enough on the State. It's clearly Starmer's plan to have the state involved to the extent that people can't even be arsed to pour milk over a bowl of Cheerios. The ghoul.
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