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  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,966

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon and Somerset, and Greater Bristol.
    One mayoralty proposal was for Wiltshire (with or without Swindon), Dorset and BCP Councils in a 'Heart of Wessex' with somerset (sans Bath, already in West of England, and north somerset, likely to join the latter).
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,913
    edited December 20

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    Southern
    Westward
    Harlech
    Associated
    Anglia
    Yorkshire
    Granada
    Tyne-Tees
    Border

    Bonus points for separate authorities running London during the week and at weekends.

    Double bonus points if the same politicians run the Midlands during the week and London at weekends.
    As a Granada maximalist, I note the formation of the Welsby Group PMC whose brief is to march on Port Vale, Stoke village / City irself and Wrexham.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,839
    edited December 20
    Spurs down to nine men.
  • IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, and Greater Bristol.

    (Gloucestershire I put into the West Mids, which obviously wouldn’t be popular, but that region is in my view unfairly truncated away from its Severn outlet).
    And, with British politics, that's why it won't happen. The small percentage of the country that doesn't fit tidily, wherever you draw the boundaries, holds back the rest of the country.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,825
    kle4 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon and Somerset, and Greater Bristol.
    One mayoralty proposal was for Wiltshire (with or without Swindon), Dorset and BCP Councils in a 'Heart of Wessex' with somerset (sans Bath, already in West of England, and north somerset, likely to join the latter).
    The government has buggered it all up again, with Treasury-inspired gibberish on the supposed optimal size of a regional unit.

    Late Soviet Britain strikes once more.

    Swindon is part of Wiltshire, whether it likes it or not, even if it is essentially a post-war exurb of Bristol.

    Seems daft to have a Heart of Wessex without Winchester, ie Hampshire.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,533

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, and Greater Bristol.

    (Gloucestershire I put into the West Mids, which obviously wouldn’t be popular, but that region is in my view unfairly truncated away from its Severn outlet).
    The problem with Gloucestershire is it divides, not very neatly, three ways.

    The Forest, Tewkesbury and Gloucester are closely linked to the Midlands, the northern Cotswolds and the Cheltenham suburbs to the Thames Valley/London, and Stroud and Cirencester to the West Country.

    So putting Gloucestershire as a whole into any area would be damn near impossible. But as for splitting it up - I don't think Starmer knows what will hit him if he tries that...
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,825

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, and Greater Bristol.

    (Gloucestershire I put into the West Mids, which obviously wouldn’t be popular, but that region is in my view unfairly truncated away from its Severn outlet).
    And, with British politics, that's why it won't happen. The small percentage of the country that doesn't fit tidily, wherever you draw the boundaries, holds back the rest of the country.
    It hasn’t stopped various governments coming up with various bastardries.
  • stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    On the thorny question of waste management, in Newham, for many years, we had just the two bins - one for general waste and one for all recycling including glass. However, we now have a little caddy for our food waste which is apparently a statutory requirement.

    Fortunately, we are still on weekly collections for everything but we have to have all the bins by the gate or on the pavement as the poor waste management operatives don't have time to walk on to properties and take bins and then return them. Given we are adding dwellings continuously in Newham, the whole waste management operation has become complex.

    Segregated fo9d waste collection becomes mandatory next year. Bradford is bringing it in in the autumn.

    By contrast, in Ealing they introduced it at least 18 years ago.
    No such Woke Nonsense here in Redbridge!
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 2,070
    Channel 4, 9.10pm tonight. The most Christmas of all Christmas movies!

    I've set it to record.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,825
    edited December 20
    ydoethur said:

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, and Greater Bristol.

    (Gloucestershire I put into the West Mids, which obviously wouldn’t be popular, but that region is in my view unfairly truncated away from its Severn outlet).
    The problem with Gloucestershire is it divides, not very neatly, three ways.

    The Forest, Tewkesbury and Gloucester are closely linked to the Midlands, the northern Cotswolds and the Cheltenham suburbs to the Thames Valley/London, and Stroud and Cirencester to the West Country.

    So putting Gloucestershire as a whole into any area would be damn near impossible. But as for splitting it up - I don't think Starmer knows what will hit him if he tries that...
    I would simply keep South Gloucs in the Bristol Metro, and the rump - ie just Gloucestershire - aligned to the West Mids region.

    But as I posted earlier, my regions wouldn’t have anything as crass as assemblies or any autonomy. Power would largely lie at the Gloucestershire, and Bristol Metro, level in my example.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,966

    kle4 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon and Somerset, and Greater Bristol.
    One mayoralty proposal was for Wiltshire (with or without Swindon), Dorset and BCP Councils in a 'Heart of Wessex' with somerset (sans Bath, already in West of England, and north somerset, likely to join the latter).
    The government has buggered it all up again, with Treasury-inspired gibberish on the supposed optimal size of a regional unit.

    Late Soviet Britain strikes once more.

    Swindon is part of Wiltshire, whether it likes it or not, even if it is essentially a post-war exurb of Bristol.

    Seems daft to have a Heart of Wessex without Winchester, ie Hampshire.
    Were Swindon not Labour MPs their wish to combine eastwards would probably be ignored, i dont think the SE areas want them included.

    Hampshire would make sense for the name, but they had to propose something. West of England was already taken, so what else? The West of England but slightly further South Mayoralty?
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,825
    edited December 20
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon and Somerset, and Greater Bristol.
    One mayoralty proposal was for Wiltshire (with or without Swindon), Dorset and BCP Councils in a 'Heart of Wessex' with somerset (sans Bath, already in West of England, and north somerset, likely to join the latter).
    The government has buggered it all up again, with Treasury-inspired gibberish on the supposed optimal size of a regional unit.

    Late Soviet Britain strikes once more.

    Swindon is part of Wiltshire, whether it likes it or not, even if it is essentially a post-war exurb of Bristol.

    Seems daft to have a Heart of Wessex without Winchester, ie Hampshire.
    Were Swindon not Labour MPs their wish to combine eastwards would probably be ignored, i dont think the SE areas want them included.

    Hampshire would make sense for the name, but they had to propose something. West of England was already taken, so what else? The West of England but slightly further South Mayoralty?
    The lack of an obvious name is kind of a tell.
    It’s a gerrymandered, artificial idea.

    As you say, the attitude toward Swindon is political and cultural. It’s a new town plonked in the middle of an unwelcoming shire.

    But it exists, can’t be wished away, and the people of Swindon have as many rights as anyone.

    If shires had any real autonomy they could attempt to make Swindon an ornament of Wiltshire rather than an alien intrusion.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,533

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon and Somerset, and Greater Bristol.
    One mayoralty proposal was for Wiltshire (with or without Swindon), Dorset and BCP Councils in a 'Heart of Wessex' with somerset (sans Bath, already in West of England, and north somerset, likely to join the latter).
    The government has buggered it all up again, with Treasury-inspired gibberish on the supposed optimal size of a regional unit.

    Late Soviet Britain strikes once more.

    Swindon is part of Wiltshire, whether it likes it or not, even if it is essentially a post-war exurb of Bristol.

    Seems daft to have a Heart of Wessex without Winchester, ie Hampshire.
    Were Swindon not Labour MPs their wish to combine eastwards would probably be ignored, i dont think the SE areas want them included.

    Hampshire would make sense for the name, but they had to propose something. West of England was already taken, so what else? The West of England but slightly further South Mayoralty?
    The lack of an obvious name is kind of a tell.
    It’s a gerrymandered, artificial idea.

    As you say, the attitude toward Swindon is political and cultural. It’s a new town plonked in the middle of an unwelcoming shire.

    But it exists, can’t be wished away, and the people of Swindon have as many rights as anyone.

    If shires had any real autonomy they could attempt to make Swindon an ornament of Wiltshire rather than an alien intrusion.
    Even in so backward-looking a county as Wiltshire 1841 isn't *that* new.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,966

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon and Somerset, and Greater Bristol.
    One mayoralty proposal was for Wiltshire (with or without Swindon), Dorset and BCP Councils in a 'Heart of Wessex' with somerset (sans Bath, already in West of England, and north somerset, likely to join the latter).
    The government has buggered it all up again, with Treasury-inspired gibberish on the supposed optimal size of a regional unit.

    Late Soviet Britain strikes once more.

    Swindon is part of Wiltshire, whether it likes it or not, even if it is essentially a post-war exurb of Bristol.

    Seems daft to have a Heart of Wessex without Winchester, ie Hampshire.
    Were Swindon not Labour MPs their wish to combine eastwards would probably be ignored, i dont think the SE areas want them included.

    Hampshire would make sense for the name, but they had to propose something. West of England was already taken, so what else? The West of England but slightly further South Mayoralty?
    The lack of an obvious name is kind of a tell.
    It’s a gerrymandered, artificial idea.

    As you say, the attitude toward Swindon is political and cultural. It’s a new town plonked in the middle of an unwelcoming shire.

    But it exists, can’t be wished away, and the people of Swindon have as many rights as anyone.

    If shires had any real autonomy they could attempt to make Swindon an ornament of Wiltshire rather than an alien intrusion.
    Wiltshire, Dorset, and Somerset might make sense on ceremonial county line. Large and rural, but each with one very big urban area BCP being contiguous at least). But existing mayors make it impossible even if Bristol was ignored.

    I like the local gov reorganisation as an idea, the mayors less, but it will remain a bit of a mess with all the compromises.
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    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wYwDIbLih0o
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,327

    Channel 4, 9.10pm tonight. The most Christmas of all Christmas movies!

    I've set it to record.

    There is a publishing company in San Francisco called McSweeney's. They produce an advent calendar of 24 tiny books with short stories and poems

    December 15th this year

    A Nakatomi employee ponders: Is this a Christmas hostage situation?
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,860
    rcs1000 said:

    When I last looked at recycling (from an investment perspective), the sorting machines were all made by a Norwegian company called Tomra. The assembly lines for dealing with mixed recyclig were absolutely incredible, with cleaning systems and everything coming sorted and immaculate, and with surprisingly little human intervention.

    I can see the benefit of taking food waste out of the process, but I can't really see how separating between cardboard and plastic makes a difference.

    Did my monthly soft plastics run to Morrisons today. That would be a good one to find a solution to.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,090

    Channel 4, 9.10pm tonight. The most Christmas of all Christmas movies!

    I've set it to record.

    If you have a smart TV you can use the channel 4 app and watch it later. You don't need to record it.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,966
    Watching some channel ive never heard of it's playing an excruciatingly unfunny historic christmas 'variety' show from some blokes called Cannon and Ball. It's hellish, i refuse to believe the older generations enjoyed this crap.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 36,000
    Have you lot done this yet? Tiny Tom gets his arse handed to him by boxer Ty Mitchell in Dubai.

    Tan Smith just referred to Stephen Yaxley-Lennon as Ewok Powell. Well it made me laugh.

    https://searchlightmagazine.com/2025/12/robinsons-dubai-trip-a-challenge-to-emirates-law



  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,417
    Talking of Christmas movies, there's a new kid on the block: "Man versus baby" with Rowan Atkinson over on Netflix. I mention it because my daughter is among the credits, but that notwithstanding it is very good imo
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,621
    Doing the Messiah tonight.
    Been going for half a century and it never gets stale. A quite remarkable work.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,192
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    David Walliams is widely known as a creepy, sick fuck.
    Open secret for years and years.

    His kid’s books suck, too.

    Old comics writing books, and often children's books, seems quite a recent fad. Do they really write them or is there a whole army of ghost writers in play?

    David Walliams is widely known as a creepy, sick fuck.
    Open secret for years and years.

    His kid’s books suck, too.

    Old comics writing books, and often children's books, seems quite a recent fad. Do they really write them or is there a whole army of ghost writers in play?
    Nothing new there, they used to have Rent-a-ghosts back in the seventies.
    I feel it must be better now as when someone writes most of a book with a bigger name now they usually at least get their name included, eg Wilbur Smith or James Patterson.
    That’s not quite the same as ghost writing though. In that case there is a named author who is actually writing the book and the “Wilbur Smith role” is as a plot consultant.

    Yes, but i bet that they didnt use to acknowledge it, so a book by X was mostly written by uncredited Y. Which feels like ghost writing. Now we know sometimes at least.

    Almost all autobiographies i assume are ghost written.
    Wilbur Smith being dead makes it hard to sell a new book by him. You need to leave a bit of time a la Tolkien…
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,370

    Have you lot done this yet? Tiny Tom gets his arse handed to him by boxer Ty Mitchell in Dubai.

    Tan Smith just referred to Stephen Yaxley-Lennon as Ewok Powell. Well it made me laugh.

    https://searchlightmagazine.com/2025/12/robinsons-dubai-trip-a-challenge-to-emirates-law



    Do the people running that magazine realise that Tommy Lots Of Names *wants* to get lifted by the UAE police? That far from being a stone in his shoe, getting locked up for his racist shit there would be the trigger for pressure from his fan club in the US to get released.

    So he’d get a free ride home at the end of his holiday, remind his pals in the high places he exists and burnish his rep among his online chums. Wonder how many more subscriptions to his online sewer he would get from that?
  • kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon and Somerset, and Greater Bristol.
    One mayoralty proposal was for Wiltshire (with or without Swindon), Dorset and BCP Councils in a 'Heart of Wessex' with somerset (sans Bath, already in West of England, and north somerset, likely to join the latter).
    The government has buggered it all up again, with Treasury-inspired gibberish on the supposed optimal size of a regional unit.

    Late Soviet Britain strikes once more.

    Swindon is part of Wiltshire, whether it likes it or not, even if it is essentially a post-war exurb of Bristol.

    Seems daft to have a Heart of Wessex without Winchester, ie Hampshire.
    Were Swindon not Labour MPs their wish to combine eastwards would probably be ignored, i dont think the SE areas want them included.

    Hampshire would make sense for the name, but they had to propose something. West of England was already taken, so what else? The West of England but slightly further South Mayoralty?
    The lack of an obvious name is kind of a tell.
    It’s a gerrymandered, artificial idea.

    As you say, the attitude toward Swindon is political and cultural. It’s a new town plonked in the middle of an unwelcoming shire.

    But it exists, can’t be wished away, and the people of Swindon have as many rights as anyone.

    If shires had any real autonomy they could attempt to make Swindon an ornament of Wiltshire rather than an alien intrusion.
    Railway town, you know!
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,137
    edited December 20
    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    I’m not convinced it’s a good thing at all.

    Westminster makes it very simple: non-recyclable rubbish (but you can split food waster optionally) and all recycling material together.

    They then take the cost of separating out the recycling materials.

    If you make it complicated for people some won’t bother to do it. This is just about the governments pushing work onto the residents at a cost to the total amount of recycling
    The catch is the usual one. The funding the state can gather through the tax system won't pay for that, and making people sort stuff at home is considerably cheaper.
    We've sorted at home in Pembrokeshire for years. It's not difficult. I also notive that recycling percentages are much higher here than in the rest of the UK.
    Yes, *but that's Wales* - it hardly counts as part of the UK, so what the local Ordovician tribespersons do isn't relevant to the imperial overlords. See also: smoking bans in pubs in Scotland.
    Oi!
    *I* don't think that - merely quoting what some other folk think. (As the reference to the pubs should have made clear, but didn't: I'd edit it if you were a referee, no arguing.)

    Edit: irony is dangerous - but I would hate to see PB without it, even though I've misinterpreted the odd post myself.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,033

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon and Somerset, and Greater Bristol.
    One mayoralty proposal was for Wiltshire (with or without Swindon), Dorset and BCP Councils in a 'Heart of Wessex' with somerset (sans Bath, already in West of England, and north somerset, likely to join the latter).
    The government has buggered it all up again, with Treasury-inspired gibberish on the supposed optimal size of a regional unit.

    Late Soviet Britain strikes once more.

    Swindon is part of Wiltshire, whether it likes it or not, even if it is essentially a post-war exurb of Bristol.

    Seems daft to have a Heart of Wessex without Winchester, ie Hampshire.
    Were Swindon not Labour MPs their wish to combine eastwards would probably be ignored, i dont think the SE areas want them included.

    Hampshire would make sense for the name, but they had to propose something. West of England was already taken, so what else? The West of England but slightly further South Mayoralty?
    The lack of an obvious name is kind of a tell.
    It’s a gerrymandered, artificial idea.

    As you say, the attitude toward Swindon is political and cultural. It’s a new town plonked in the middle of an unwelcoming shire.

    But it exists, can’t be wished away, and the people of Swindon have as many rights as anyone.

    If shires had any real autonomy they could attempt to make Swindon an ornament of Wiltshire rather than an alien intrusion.
    Railway town, you know!
    The railway district is nice. The high town is alright. The bit in between....bloody hell.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 36,000

    Have you lot done this yet? Tiny Tom gets his arse handed to him by boxer Ty Mitchell in Dubai.

    Tan Smith just referred to Stephen Yaxley-Lennon as Ewok Powell. Well it made me laugh.

    https://searchlightmagazine.com/2025/12/robinsons-dubai-trip-a-challenge-to-emirates-law



    Do the people running that magazine realise that Tommy Lots Of Names *wants* to get lifted by the UAE police? That far from being a stone in his shoe, getting locked up for his racist shit there would be the trigger for pressure from his fan club in the US to get released.

    So he’d get a free ride home at the end of his holiday, remind his pals in the high places he exists and burnish his rep among his online chums. Wonder how many more subscriptions to his online sewer he would get from that?
    The video of Mitchell owning Yaxley-Lennon was a wondrous site to behold. I do find it remarkable that Islamaphobic racists and Reformers seems to be drawn to the UAE. It must be their relaxed social contract.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,137

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon and Somerset, and Greater Bristol.
    One mayoralty proposal was for Wiltshire (with or without Swindon), Dorset and BCP Councils in a 'Heart of Wessex' with somerset (sans Bath, already in West of England, and north somerset, likely to join the latter).
    The government has buggered it all up again, with Treasury-inspired gibberish on the supposed optimal size of a regional unit.

    Late Soviet Britain strikes once more.

    Swindon is part of Wiltshire, whether it likes it or not, even if it is essentially a post-war exurb of Bristol.

    Seems daft to have a Heart of Wessex without Winchester, ie Hampshire.
    Were Swindon not Labour MPs their wish to combine eastwards would probably be ignored, i dont think the SE areas want them included.

    Hampshire would make sense for the name, but they had to propose something. West of England was already taken, so what else? The West of England but slightly further South Mayoralty?
    The lack of an obvious name is kind of a tell.
    It’s a gerrymandered, artificial idea.

    As you say, the attitude toward Swindon is political and cultural. It’s a new town plonked in the middle of an unwelcoming shire.

    But it exists, can’t be wished away, and the people of Swindon have as many rights as anyone.

    If shires had any real autonomy they could attempt to make Swindon an ornament of Wiltshire rather than an alien intrusion.
    Railway town, you know!
    Eh? There was a perfectly good Swindon before the GWR. Been there. Old Swindon, it's called now.

    The only reason there isn't a pre-Brunel town hall is that the councillors met in the pub.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Town_Hall,_Swindon
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,966

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    David Walliams is widely known as a creepy, sick fuck.
    Open secret for years and years.

    His kid’s books suck, too.

    Old comics writing books, and often children's books, seems quite a recent fad. Do they really write them or is there a whole army of ghost writers in play?

    David Walliams is widely known as a creepy, sick fuck.
    Open secret for years and years.

    His kid’s books suck, too.

    Old comics writing books, and often children's books, seems quite a recent fad. Do they really write them or is there a whole army of ghost writers in play?
    Nothing new there, they used to have Rent-a-ghosts back in the seventies.
    I feel it must be better now as when someone writes most of a book with a bigger name now they usually at least get their name included, eg Wilbur Smith or James Patterson.
    That’s not quite the same as ghost writing though. In that case there is a named author who is actually writing the book and the “Wilbur Smith role” is as a plot consultant.

    Yes, but i bet that they didnt use to acknowledge it, so a book by X was mostly written by uncredited Y. Which feels like ghost writing. Now we know sometimes at least.

    Almost all autobiographies i assume are ghost written.
    Wilbur Smith being dead makes it hard to sell a new book by him. You need to leave a bit of time a la Tolkien…
    Something like a dozen have been released under his name since Smith died. Even being generous around him being consulted on plot outlines beforehand that seems an excessive number in 4 years since his passing.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,137

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    David Walliams is widely known as a creepy, sick fuck.
    Open secret for years and years.

    His kid’s books suck, too.

    Old comics writing books, and often children's books, seems quite a recent fad. Do they really write them or is there a whole army of ghost writers in play?

    David Walliams is widely known as a creepy, sick fuck.
    Open secret for years and years.

    His kid’s books suck, too.

    Old comics writing books, and often children's books, seems quite a recent fad. Do they really write them or is there a whole army of ghost writers in play?
    Nothing new there, they used to have Rent-a-ghosts back in the seventies.
    I feel it must be better now as when someone writes most of a book with a bigger name now they usually at least get their name included, eg Wilbur Smith or James Patterson.
    That’s not quite the same as ghost writing though. In that case there is a named author who is actually writing the book and the “Wilbur Smith role” is as a plot consultant.

    Yes, but i bet that they didnt use to acknowledge it, so a book by X was mostly written by uncredited Y. Which feels like ghost writing. Now we know sometimes at least.

    Almost all autobiographies i assume are ghost written.
    Wilbur Smith being dead makes it hard to sell a new book by him. You need to leave a bit of time a la Tolkien…
    There's a variant which goes Joe 'Hardman' Bloggs interviewed by A. Ghost-that-nobody-has-heard-of, or maybe Mr Crime-Correspondent. Obviously subtleties going on there.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,137
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    David Walliams is widely known as a creepy, sick fuck.
    Open secret for years and years.

    His kid’s books suck, too.

    Old comics writing books, and often children's books, seems quite a recent fad. Do they really write them or is there a whole army of ghost writers in play?

    David Walliams is widely known as a creepy, sick fuck.
    Open secret for years and years.

    His kid’s books suck, too.

    Old comics writing books, and often children's books, seems quite a recent fad. Do they really write them or is there a whole army of ghost writers in play?
    Nothing new there, they used to have Rent-a-ghosts back in the seventies.
    I feel it must be better now as when someone writes most of a book with a bigger name now they usually at least get their name included, eg Wilbur Smith or James Patterson.
    That’s not quite the same as ghost writing though. In that case there is a named author who is actually writing the book and the “Wilbur Smith role” is as a plot consultant.

    Yes, but i bet that they didnt use to acknowledge it, so a book by X was mostly written by uncredited Y. Which feels like ghost writing. Now we know sometimes at least.

    Almost all autobiographies i assume are ghost written.
    Wilbur Smith being dead makes it hard to sell a new book by him. You need to leave a bit of time a la Tolkien…
    Something like a dozen have been released under his name since Smith died. Even being generous around him being consulted on plot outlines beforehand that seems an excessive number in 4 years since his passing.
    Ouija boards, in the digital age.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,192
    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon and Somerset, and Greater Bristol.
    One mayoralty proposal was for Wiltshire (with or without Swindon), Dorset and BCP Councils in a 'Heart of Wessex' with somerset (sans Bath, already in West of England, and north somerset, likely to join the latter).
    The government has buggered it all up again, with Treasury-inspired gibberish on the supposed optimal size of a regional unit.

    Late Soviet Britain strikes once more.

    Swindon is part of Wiltshire, whether it likes it or not, even if it is essentially a post-war exurb of Bristol.

    Seems daft to have a Heart of Wessex without Winchester, ie Hampshire.
    Were Swindon not Labour MPs their wish to combine eastwards would probably be ignored, i dont think the SE areas want them included.

    Hampshire would make sense for the name, but they had to propose something. West of England was already taken, so what else? The West of England but slightly further South Mayoralty?
    The lack of an obvious name is kind of a tell.
    It’s a gerrymandered, artificial idea.

    As you say, the attitude toward Swindon is political and cultural. It’s a new town plonked in the middle of an unwelcoming shire.

    But it exists, can’t be wished away, and the people of Swindon have as many rights as anyone.

    If shires had any real autonomy they could attempt to make Swindon an ornament of Wiltshire rather than an alien intrusion.
    Even in so backward-looking a county as Wiltshire 1841 isn't *that* new.
    If it isn’t in the History of Modern Wiltshire, 1822-44, then it doesn’t count. They had 7 volumes and that was more than enough to cover the important bits
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,578

    Have you lot done this yet? Tiny Tom gets his arse handed to him by boxer Ty Mitchell in Dubai.

    Tan Smith just referred to Stephen Yaxley-Lennon as Ewok Powell. Well it made me laugh.

    https://searchlightmagazine.com/2025/12/robinsons-dubai-trip-a-challenge-to-emirates-law



    Do the people running that magazine realise that Tommy Lots Of Names *wants* to get lifted by the UAE police? That far from being a stone in his shoe, getting locked up for his racist shit there would be the trigger for pressure from his fan club in the US to get released.

    So he’d get a free ride home at the end of his holiday, remind his pals in the high places he exists and burnish his rep among his online chums. Wonder how many more subscriptions to his online sewer he would get from that?
    The video of Mitchell owning Yaxley-Lennon was a wondrous site to behold. I do find it remarkable that Islamaphobic racists and Reformers seems to be drawn to the UAE. It must be their relaxed social contract.
    It’s because the UAE is like a hot dry version of Croydon. And because they quite like autocracies.

    I actually marginally prefer the Canary Wharf of the tropics with added corporal punishment of Singapore to the Croydon of the Gulf with its patrol cars checking for shaggers on the fake beach.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,192
    edited December 20
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    David Walliams is widely known as a creepy, sick fuck.
    Open secret for years and years.

    His kid’s books suck, too.

    Old comics writing books, and often children's books, seems quite a recent fad. Do they really write them or is there a whole army of ghost writers in play?

    David Walliams is widely known as a creepy, sick fuck.
    Open secret for years and years.

    His kid’s books suck, too.

    Old comics writing books, and often children's books, seems quite a recent fad. Do they really write them or is there a whole army of ghost writers in play?
    Nothing new there, they used to have Rent-a-ghosts back in the seventies.
    I feel it must be better now as when someone writes most of a book with a bigger name now they usually at least get their name included, eg Wilbur Smith or James Patterson.
    That’s not quite the same as ghost writing though. In that case there is a named author who is actually writing the book and the “Wilbur Smith role” is as a plot consultant.

    Yes, but i bet that they didnt use to acknowledge it, so a book by X was mostly written by uncredited Y. Which feels like ghost writing. Now we know sometimes at least.

    Almost all autobiographies i assume are ghost written.
    Wilbur Smith being dead makes it hard to sell a new book by him. You need to leave a bit of time a la Tolkien…
    Something like a dozen have been released under his name since Smith died. Even being generous around him being consulted on plot outlines beforehand that seems an excessive number in 4 years since his passing.
    It’s really just using the brand and paying royalties. It’s the same with Victor Hugo’s Cosette, for example.

    (Spoiler: it wasn’t really by him.)

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cosette-Time-Illusion-Francois-Ceresa/dp/0333908759
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 36,000
    MelonB said:

    Have you lot done this yet? Tiny Tom gets his arse handed to him by boxer Ty Mitchell in Dubai.

    Tan Smith just referred to Stephen Yaxley-Lennon as Ewok Powell. Well it made me laugh.

    https://searchlightmagazine.com/2025/12/robinsons-dubai-trip-a-challenge-to-emirates-law



    Do the people running that magazine realise that Tommy Lots Of Names *wants* to get lifted by the UAE police? That far from being a stone in his shoe, getting locked up for his racist shit there would be the trigger for pressure from his fan club in the US to get released.

    So he’d get a free ride home at the end of his holiday, remind his pals in the high places he exists and burnish his rep among his online chums. Wonder how many more subscriptions to his online sewer he would get from that?
    The video of Mitchell owning Yaxley-Lennon was a wondrous site to behold. I do find it remarkable that Islamaphobic racists and Reformers seems to be drawn to the UAE. It must be their relaxed social contract.
    It’s because the UAE is like a hot dry version of Croydon. And because they quite like autocracies.

    I actually marginally prefer the Canary Wharf of the tropics with added corporal punishment of Singapore to the Croydon of the Gulf with its patrol cars checking for shaggers on the fake beach.
    I wasn't aware that an extra-marital affair could result in state administered beating in Croydon.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,137
    MelonB said:

    Have you lot done this yet? Tiny Tom gets his arse handed to him by boxer Ty Mitchell in Dubai.

    Tan Smith just referred to Stephen Yaxley-Lennon as Ewok Powell. Well it made me laugh.

    https://searchlightmagazine.com/2025/12/robinsons-dubai-trip-a-challenge-to-emirates-law



    Do the people running that magazine realise that Tommy Lots Of Names *wants* to get lifted by the UAE police? That far from being a stone in his shoe, getting locked up for his racist shit there would be the trigger for pressure from his fan club in the US to get released.

    So he’d get a free ride home at the end of his holiday, remind his pals in the high places he exists and burnish his rep among his online chums. Wonder how many more subscriptions to his online sewer he would get from that?
    The video of Mitchell owning Yaxley-Lennon was a wondrous site to behold. I do find it remarkable that Islamaphobic racists and Reformers seems to be drawn to the UAE. It must be their relaxed social contract.
    It’s because the UAE is like a hot dry version of Croydon. And because they quite like autocracies.

    I actually marginally prefer the Canary Wharf of the tropics with added corporal punishment of Singapore to the Croydon of the Gulf with its patrol cars checking for shaggers on the fake beach.
    The original Croydon police care about dogging in the Wandle Valley? Really?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,533
    Nigelb said:

    Doing the Messiah tonight.
    Been going for half a century and it never gets stale. A quite remarkable work.

    I take it that's the extended version with all the choruses most people take out?

    Even so, I'm surprised it's taken half a century.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,947
    Nigelb said:

    Doing the Messiah tonight.
    Been going for half a century and it never gets stale. A quite remarkable work.

    If I had a tenner for every woman who has said that about me.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,370
    a
    MelonB said:

    Have you lot done this yet? Tiny Tom gets his arse handed to him by boxer Ty Mitchell in Dubai.

    Tan Smith just referred to Stephen Yaxley-Lennon as Ewok Powell. Well it made me laugh.

    https://searchlightmagazine.com/2025/12/robinsons-dubai-trip-a-challenge-to-emirates-law



    Do the people running that magazine realise that Tommy Lots Of Names *wants* to get lifted by the UAE police? That far from being a stone in his shoe, getting locked up for his racist shit there would be the trigger for pressure from his fan club in the US to get released.

    So he’d get a free ride home at the end of his holiday, remind his pals in the high places he exists and burnish his rep among his online chums. Wonder how many more subscriptions to his online sewer he would get from that?
    The video of Mitchell owning Yaxley-Lennon was a wondrous site to behold. I do find it remarkable that Islamaphobic racists and Reformers seems to be drawn to the UAE. It must be their relaxed social contract.
    It’s because the UAE is like a hot dry version of Croydon. And because they quite like autocracies.

    I actually marginally prefer the Canary Wharf of the tropics with added corporal punishment of Singapore to the Croydon of the Gulf with its patrol cars checking for shaggers on the fake beach.
    Back in the day, when the Islamofascist types first started becoming noticeable in the U.K. (90s) both the fuckwit extreme left and the fuckwit extreme right tried to ally with them.

    Admiring the propaganda of the deed, I suppose.

    Fuckwits of the World Unite! You have only your sanity to lose!
  • kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    David Walliams is widely known as a creepy, sick fuck.
    Open secret for years and years.

    His kid’s books suck, too.

    Old comics writing books, and often children's books, seems quite a recent fad. Do they really write them or is there a whole army of ghost writers in play?

    David Walliams is widely known as a creepy, sick fuck.
    Open secret for years and years.

    His kid’s books suck, too.

    Old comics writing books, and often children's books, seems quite a recent fad. Do they really write them or is there a whole army of ghost writers in play?
    Nothing new there, they used to have Rent-a-ghosts back in the seventies.
    I feel it must be better now as when someone writes most of a book with a bigger name now they usually at least get their name included, eg Wilbur Smith or James Patterson.
    That’s not quite the same as ghost writing though. In that case there is a named author who is actually writing the book and the “Wilbur Smith role” is as a plot consultant.

    Yes, but i bet that they didnt use to acknowledge it, so a book by X was mostly written by uncredited Y. Which feels like ghost writing. Now we know sometimes at least.

    Almost all autobiographies i assume are ghost written.
    As a kid I used to like the Hardy Boys books by Franklin W Dixon.

    Was quite disappointing to realise there was no such person.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,266
    Will Palestine fanaticism be a bigger problem for the left than the union militancy of the 1980s?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/dec/19/new-head-unison-politicians-unions-labour?CMP=share_btn_url

    Naturally the new head of Unison is very concerned about Gaza. Not that any of the suffering people anywhere else in the world get a mention.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 13,396

    kjh said:

    Memories. I failed my first driving test in the days when doing hand signals was part of it. I had my hand out of the window indicating right, and as I changed gears at the same time, for some inexplicable reason the examiner grabbed hold of the steering wheel.

    I'm in the pub and people are wondering why I am laughing.
    They've every right to wonder. If you're in the pub, be 'in the pub' not on your mobile browsing the internet!
    I often take my phone or a book to the pub for a quiet pint before dinner. I don't read it when I am in company. Seems like a civilised thing to do. Giggling while by yourself though does look strange.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,448
    kjh said:

    kjh said:

    Memories. I failed my first driving test in the days when doing hand signals was part of it. I had my hand out of the window indicating right, and as I changed gears at the same time, for some inexplicable reason the examiner grabbed hold of the steering wheel.

    I'm in the pub and people are wondering why I am laughing.
    They've every right to wonder. If you're in the pub, be 'in the pub' not on your mobile browsing the internet!
    I often take my phone or a book to the pub for a quiet pint before dinner. I don't read it when I am in company. Seems like a civilised thing to do. Giggling while by yourself though does look strange.
    Fair point, I take it back.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,966

    Will Palestine fanaticism be a bigger problem for the left than the union militancy of the 1980s?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/dec/19/new-head-unison-politicians-unions-labour?CMP=share_btn_url

    Naturally the new head of Unison is very concerned about Gaza. Not that any of the suffering people anywhere else in the world get a mention.

    Her campaign statement made sure to mention Israeli genocide, but in fairness came about 3/4 of the way through, after some workers policy stuff and about 6 references to how awful Starmer is.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,966
    kjh said:

    kjh said:

    Memories. I failed my first driving test in the days when doing hand signals was part of it. I had my hand out of the window indicating right, and as I changed gears at the same time, for some inexplicable reason the examiner grabbed hold of the steering wheel.

    I'm in the pub and people are wondering why I am laughing.
    They've every right to wonder. If you're in the pub, be 'in the pub' not on your mobile browsing the internet!
    I often take my phone or a book to the pub for a quiet pint before dinner. I don't read it when I am in company. Seems like a civilised thing to do. Giggling while by yourself though does look strange.
    I like to be by myself with other people sometimes.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,448

    Channel 4, 9.10pm tonight. The most Christmas of all Christmas movies!

    I've set it to record.

    Incoming ban alert!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,966

    Will Palestine fanaticism be a bigger problem for the left than the union militancy of the 1980s?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/dec/19/new-head-unison-politicians-unions-labour?CMP=share_btn_url

    Naturally the new head of Unison is very concerned about Gaza. Not that any of the suffering people anywhere else in the world get a mention.

    Early reference to Thatcherite politicians is also a discouraging sign of someone thinking for this century. Yes, some historical background can be helpful, but union officials tend to mire in the history a bit.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,448
    edited December 20

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, and Greater Bristol.

    (Gloucestershire I put into the West Mids, which obviously wouldn’t be popular, but that region is in my view unfairly truncated away from its Severn outlet).
    Hardy knew:

    image
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,011
    kle4 said:

    kjh said:

    kjh said:

    Memories. I failed my first driving test in the days when doing hand signals was part of it. I had my hand out of the window indicating right, and as I changed gears at the same time, for some inexplicable reason the examiner grabbed hold of the steering wheel.

    I'm in the pub and people are wondering why I am laughing.
    They've every right to wonder. If you're in the pub, be 'in the pub' not on your mobile browsing the internet!
    I often take my phone or a book to the pub for a quiet pint before dinner. I don't read it when I am in company. Seems like a civilised thing to do. Giggling while by yourself though does look strange.
    I like to be by myself with other people sometimes.
    You have in-laws too?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,314

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    I’m not convinced it’s a good thing at all.

    Westminster makes it very simple: non-recyclable rubbish (but you can split food waster optionally) and all recycling material together.

    They then take the cost of separating out the recycling materials.

    If you make it complicated for people some won’t bother to do it. This is just about the governments pushing work onto the residents at a cost to the total amount of recycling
    The catch is the usual one. The funding the state can gather through the tax system won't pay for that, and making people sort stuff at home is considerably cheaper.
    The difficult question you have is "what is recycling?"

    To which there are a nearly infinite set of answers, depending on process.
  • IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, and Greater Bristol.

    (Gloucestershire I put into the West Mids, which obviously wouldn’t be popular, but that region is in my view unfairly truncated away from its Severn outlet).
    Hardy knew:

    image
    Cricket fielding positions :lol:
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,296
    kle4 said:

    Will Palestine fanaticism be a bigger problem for the left than the union militancy of the 1980s?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/dec/19/new-head-unison-politicians-unions-labour?CMP=share_btn_url

    Naturally the new head of Unison is very concerned about Gaza. Not that any of the suffering people anywhere else in the world get a mention.

    Her campaign statement made sure to mention Israeli genocide, but in fairness came about 3/4 of the way through, after some workers policy stuff and about 6 references to how awful Starmer is.
    Turn out was about 1% if I recall.

  • Channel 4, 9.10pm tonight. The most Christmas of all Christmas movies!

    I've set it to record.

    Incoming ban alert!
    "I read about them on PB.com!"
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,314
    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Apparently the Whitehouse wasn't content to just redact Trump from the Epstein files, they tried to fabricate some as well

    https://bsky.app/profile/meidastouch.com/post/3mag7myutmc2d

    I do like this though


    Even Waitrose strawberries have been redacted.


    I thought it was the button mushroom they were redacting?

    (Autocorrect actually did try to make that 'erecting.')
    Very strange redactions are happening.

    They redacted two children of a famous person, who did not need reacting, but did not redact Bill Clinton in the same picture, so giving the impression that Bill Clinton was in a picture with minor "victims".

    This is all going through the Courts, and it will be starting quickly.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,448

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, and Greater Bristol.

    (Gloucestershire I put into the West Mids, which obviously wouldn’t be popular, but that region is in my view unfairly truncated away from its Severn outlet).
    Hardy knew:

    image
    Cricket fielding positions :lol:
    Silly point
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,314
    edited December 20

    Channel 4, 9.10pm tonight. The most Christmas of all Christmas movies!

    I've set it to record.

    Incoming ban alert!
    "I read about them on PB.com!"
    Cookery programme with pineapple pizzas.

    On "Wessex", am I incorrect to think it originated as "Wazzocks"?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,327
    @Todd_Spence

    James Cameron naming DIE HARD as his favorite action movie ever - and deeming it the greatest Christmas movie ever 🔥

    https://x.com/Todd_Spence/status/2002465573738062031?s=20
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,177

    Will Palestine fanaticism be a bigger problem for the left than the union militancy of the 1980s?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/dec/19/new-head-unison-politicians-unions-labour?CMP=share_btn_url

    Naturally the new head of Unison is very concerned about Gaza. Not that any of the suffering people anywhere else in the world get a mention.

    BMA fanaticism could be a bigger problem for the left if their strikes cause loss of life.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,033
    kle4 said:

    Will Palestine fanaticism be a bigger problem for the left than the union militancy of the 1980s?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/dec/19/new-head-unison-politicians-unions-labour?CMP=share_btn_url

    Naturally the new head of Unison is very concerned about Gaza. Not that any of the suffering people anywhere else in the world get a mention.

    Early reference to Thatcherite politicians is also a discouraging sign of someone thinking for this century. Yes, some historical background can be helpful, but union officials tend to mire in the history a bit.
    In her defence, I think she's probably including Starmer as Thatcherite...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,533

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, and Greater Bristol.

    (Gloucestershire I put into the West Mids, which obviously wouldn’t be popular, but that region is in my view unfairly truncated away from its Severn outlet).
    Hardy knew:

    image
    So these ideas of Wessex's boundaries are hardly new?
  • Channel 4, 9.10pm tonight. The most Christmas of all Christmas movies!

    I've set it to record.

    Incoming ban alert!
    I would never ban people for saying Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

    The more people say it then it just increases the chance I use the Farage photo in an upcoming header.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,533

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, and Greater Bristol.

    (Gloucestershire I put into the West Mids, which obviously wouldn’t be popular, but that region is in my view unfairly truncated away from its Severn outlet).
    Hardy knew:

    image
    Cricket fielding positions :lol:
    Silly point
    More of a slip.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,266
    edited December 20
    Very interesting article on DEI in America, particularly Universities and journalism.

    https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-lost-generation/

    TLDR - an older generation of white men screwed over a younger generation of white men for reasons of greed and self interest (preservation?).
  • Scott_xP said:

    @Todd_Spence

    James Cameron naming DIE HARD as his favorite action movie ever - and deeming it the greatest Christmas movie ever 🔥

    https://x.com/Todd_Spence/status/2002465573738062031?s=20

    James Cameron needs to pipe down and stop producing overly long shite films.

    Avatar: Fire and Ash review: The latest in the sci-fi adventure series is the longest and worst yet

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/culture/article/20251215-avatar-fire-and-ash-review

    Honestly, if Avatar: Fire & Water sucked any more, I would have orgasmed in the cinema.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,266

    Will Palestine fanaticism be a bigger problem for the left than the union militancy of the 1980s?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/dec/19/new-head-unison-politicians-unions-labour?CMP=share_btn_url

    Naturally the new head of Unison is very concerned about Gaza. Not that any of the suffering people anywhere else in the world get a mention.

    BMA fanaticism could be a bigger problem for the left if their strikes cause loss of life.
    But how infected is the BMA with palestinianism?
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,177

    Channel 4, 9.10pm tonight. The most Christmas of all Christmas movies!

    I've set it to record.

    Incoming ban alert!
    I would never ban people for saying Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

    The more people say it then it just increases the chance I use the Farage photo in an upcoming header.
    Is the Farage photo a Christmas photo?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,448
    ydoethur said:

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, and Greater Bristol.

    (Gloucestershire I put into the West Mids, which obviously wouldn’t be popular, but that region is in my view unfairly truncated away from its Severn outlet).
    Hardy knew:

    image
    Cricket fielding positions :lol:
    Silly point
    More of a slip.
    Ah, a third man has entered the debate.
  • Channel 4, 9.10pm tonight. The most Christmas of all Christmas movies!

    I've set it to record.

    Incoming ban alert!
    I would never ban people for saying Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

    The more people say it then it just increases the chance I use the Farage photo in an upcoming header.
    DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE!
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,177

    ydoethur said:

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, and Greater Bristol.

    (Gloucestershire I put into the West Mids, which obviously wouldn’t be popular, but that region is in my view unfairly truncated away from its Severn outlet).
    Hardy knew:

    image
    Cricket fielding positions :lol:
    Silly point
    More of a slip.
    Ah, a third man has entered the debate.
    Swindon is silly mid wessex.
  • IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, and Greater Bristol.

    (Gloucestershire I put into the West Mids, which obviously wouldn’t be popular, but that region is in my view unfairly truncated away from its Severn outlet).
    Hardy knew:

    image
    Cricket fielding positions :lol:
    Silly point
    "Off Wessex" :lol:
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 132,187
    edited December 20
    Massive breaking global news story tonight!!

    'UNFRIEND IT LIKE BECKHAM Fresh twist in Beckham family feud as David and Victoria unfollow son Brooklyn on Instagram after snub from brothers.
    It comes after their sons Romeo, 23, and Cruz, 20, unfollowed their brother and his wife on the app in July.

    A source said: “This is the ultimate snub in 2025 – it shows just how deep their rift is.”
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37697315/brooklyn-beckham-unfollows-david-victoria-instagram-family-feud/
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,966

    Scott_xP said:

    @Todd_Spence

    James Cameron naming DIE HARD as his favorite action movie ever - and deeming it the greatest Christmas movie ever 🔥

    https://x.com/Todd_Spence/status/2002465573738062031?s=20

    James Cameron needs to pipe down and stop producing overly long shite films.

    Avatar: Fire and Ash review: The latest in the sci-fi adventure series is the longest and worst yet

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/culture/article/20251215-avatar-fire-and-ash-review

    Honestly, if Avatar: Fire & Water sucked any more, I would have orgasmed in the cinema.
    Shame, as the trailer looked like it might be slightly more interesting.

    The movies take 10 years to make but seem like they were written in 5 minutes - a very quick redraft would have removed several glaring issues in the last one (even if it would still have been bad).
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,314
    MattW said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Apparently the Whitehouse wasn't content to just redact Trump from the Epstein files, they tried to fabricate some as well

    https://bsky.app/profile/meidastouch.com/post/3mag7myutmc2d

    I do like this though


    Even Waitrose strawberries have been redacted.


    I thought it was the button mushroom they were redacting?

    (Autocorrect actually did try to make that 'erecting.')
    Very strange redactions are happening.

    They redacted two children of a famous person, who did not need reacting, but did not redact Bill Clinton in the same picture, so giving the impression that Bill Clinton was in a picture with minor "victims".

    This is all going through the Courts, and it will be starting quickly.
    As if by magic, commentary from from BTC and Glen Kirschner:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrxCqER3sCo
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,370
    HYUFD said:

    Massive breaking global news story tonight!!

    'UNFRIEND IT LIKE BECKHAM Fresh twist in Beckham family feud as David and Victoria unfollow son Brooklyn on Instagram after snub from brothers.
    It comes after their sons Romeo, 23, and Cruz, 20, unfollowed their brother and his wife on the app in July.

    A source said: “This is the ultimate snub in 2025 – it shows just how deep their rift is.”

    The source pointed ohttps://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37697315/brooklyn-beckham-unfollows-david-victoria-instagram-family-feud/

    Can we go back to arguing about trans trains, please?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,448

    ydoethur said:

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, and Greater Bristol.

    (Gloucestershire I put into the West Mids, which obviously wouldn’t be popular, but that region is in my view unfairly truncated away from its Severn outlet).
    Hardy knew:

    image
    Cricket fielding positions :lol:
    Silly point
    More of a slip.
    Ah, a third man has entered the debate.
    Swindon is silly mid wessex.
    I like the fact that Hardy, a Dorset man, named Somerset 'Outer Wessex', even though it's the most central Wessex county.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,533

    ydoethur said:

    IanB2 said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    HYUFD said:

    Crown court backlog nears 80,000 in new record
    Data published on Thursday showed the open caseload was 79,619 at the end of September, up from 78,329 at the end of June.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-lammy-data-moj-deputy-prime-minister-ministry-of-justice-b2887043.html

    Bloody juries.

    One of the few good things this government has announced is more funds for Crown courts to sit on more days each year. Given the amount of extra tax this government has raised at least a fraction of it is being spent sensibly
    There seems to be another good thing around, which is standardisation of recycling materials and bins across England.

    (I think that this is both the current and previous Governments, but I picked it up from a Chris Spargo video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuwaOiTHl7U )

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/major-recycling-overhaul-coming-2026-10716308
    Oh FFS. Dump the lot in one bin and let the recyclers sort it out, rather than continue with silly games and fines for putting red litter in the green bin, if we really need the same rules in Carshalton as Carlisle, which tbh is not immediately clear.

    ETA what Alphabet_Soup said.
    One of the reasons for fines and over-enforcement is horribly complex and different rules for different places, and for different types of recycling.

    I think standardisation will be far better.
    Unfortunately there isn't an English Government to do that
    There is, tbf, it's called the one in Downing St. They just devolve the non-English bits. They even have a dept for overseeing local government in the rest and all (I forget what it's called these days, I can never keep up). But historically it used to oversee local gmt in Scotland and Wales as well, before the administrative devolutions a century and a quarter ago in the panic over Irish demands for independence and what would the nearer locals think?
    It's about time we had a proper Federal system.

    In most federations, "territories" ie the bits directly ruled by the Federal government, are marginal and underpopulated places.

    In the UK it is England with maybe 85% of the population.

    The current local government reorganisation is a complete dog's breakfast, and unlike the Scots, Norm Irish and Welsh, we are not allowed to say how to do it ourselves and have to be directed by the Imperial parliament at Westminster
    Indeed. Labours attempt failed over trying to draw too many regions. Let’s not mess about - everyone knows England consists of the South, the Midlands, and the North, with London on one side. Or Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria, as once was. Carve the country outside London into three chunks, and just get on with it.
    West Country
    Wessex
    Thames Valley & Estuary
    East Anglia & the Levels
    West Midlands & the Marches
    East Midlands (Five Boroughs)
    Lancashire & Cheshire (Counties Palatine?)
    Yorkshire
    Northumbria
    Cumbria
    The West Country and Wessex are the same surely?
    I was thinking of Wessex as Hampshire, Wiltshire and Dorset; and West Country as Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, and Greater Bristol.

    (Gloucestershire I put into the West Mids, which obviously wouldn’t be popular, but that region is in my view unfairly truncated away from its Severn outlet).
    Hardy knew:

    image
    Cricket fielding positions :lol:
    Silly point
    More of a slip.
    Ah, a third man has entered the debate.
    Just giving you some cover.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,033

    Channel 4, 9.10pm tonight. The most Christmas of all Christmas movies!

    I've set it to record.

    Incoming ban alert!
    I would never ban people for saying Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

    The more people say it then it just increases the chance I use the Farage photo in an upcoming header.
    Is the Farage photo a Christmas photo?


    Christmas has come for some.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,533
    HYUFD said:

    Massive breaking global news story tonight!!

    'UNFRIEND IT LIKE BECKHAM Fresh twist in Beckham family feud as David and Victoria unfollow son Brooklyn on Instagram after snub from brothers.
    It comes after their sons Romeo, 23, and Cruz, 20, unfollowed their brother and his wife on the app in July.

    A source said: “This is the ultimate snub in 2025 – it shows just how deep their rift is.”
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37697315/brooklyn-beckham-unfollows-david-victoria-instagram-family-feud/

    I'm going to drop her from my top 8 on Yebo, and THEN I'm going to divorce her!
  • HYUFD said:

    Massive breaking global news story tonight!!

    'UNFRIEND IT LIKE BECKHAM Fresh twist in Beckham family feud as David and Victoria unfollow son Brooklyn on Instagram after snub from brothers.
    It comes after their sons Romeo, 23, and Cruz, 20, unfollowed their brother and his wife on the app in July.

    A source said: “This is the ultimate snub in 2025 – it shows just how deep their rift is.”
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37697315/brooklyn-beckham-unfollows-david-victoria-instagram-family-feud/

    Who cares and it certainly is not massive breaking global news

    Epstein, US attacking Syria, and arresting another ship in international waters off Venezuala is

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,533

    HYUFD said:

    Massive breaking global news story tonight!!

    'UNFRIEND IT LIKE BECKHAM Fresh twist in Beckham family feud as David and Victoria unfollow son Brooklyn on Instagram after snub from brothers.
    It comes after their sons Romeo, 23, and Cruz, 20, unfollowed their brother and his wife on the app in July.

    A source said: “This is the ultimate snub in 2025 – it shows just how deep their rift is.”
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37697315/brooklyn-beckham-unfollows-david-victoria-instagram-family-feud/

    Who cares and it certainly is not massive breaking global news

    Epstein, US attacking Syria, and arresting another ship in international waters off Venezuala is

    You know, I'm old enough to remember a time Donald Trump said he wouldn't do global adventurism.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,177

    HYUFD said:

    Massive breaking global news story tonight!!

    'UNFRIEND IT LIKE BECKHAM Fresh twist in Beckham family feud as David and Victoria unfollow son Brooklyn on Instagram after snub from brothers.
    It comes after their sons Romeo, 23, and Cruz, 20, unfollowed their brother and his wife on the app in July.

    A source said: “This is the ultimate snub in 2025 – it shows just how deep their rift is.”

    The source pointed ohttps://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37697315/brooklyn-beckham-unfollows-david-victoria-instagram-family-feud/

    Can we go back to arguing about trans trains, please?
    Is that the IC125 that self identifies as the Midland Pullman?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,296

    Channel 4, 9.10pm tonight. The most Christmas of all Christmas movies!

    I've set it to record.

    Incoming ban alert!
    I would never ban people for saying Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

    The more people say it then it just increases the chance I use the Farage photo in an upcoming header.
    DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE!
    I see we have hit that point in the annual seasonal festivities and it is not even the solstice. Seems to come around earlier every year.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,966
    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    Massive breaking global news story tonight!!

    'UNFRIEND IT LIKE BECKHAM Fresh twist in Beckham family feud as David and Victoria unfollow son Brooklyn on Instagram after snub from brothers.
    It comes after their sons Romeo, 23, and Cruz, 20, unfollowed their brother and his wife on the app in July.

    A source said: “This is the ultimate snub in 2025 – it shows just how deep their rift is.”
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37697315/brooklyn-beckham-unfollows-david-victoria-instagram-family-feud/

    Who cares and it certainly is not massive breaking global news

    Epstein, US attacking Syria, and arresting another ship in international waters off Venezuala is

    You know, I'm old enough to remember a time Donald Trump said he wouldn't do global adventurism.
    He has the not at all nonsensical Fifa Peace Prize now, no need for more peace.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,533
    kle4 said:

    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    Massive breaking global news story tonight!!

    'UNFRIEND IT LIKE BECKHAM Fresh twist in Beckham family feud as David and Victoria unfollow son Brooklyn on Instagram after snub from brothers.
    It comes after their sons Romeo, 23, and Cruz, 20, unfollowed their brother and his wife on the app in July.

    A source said: “This is the ultimate snub in 2025 – it shows just how deep their rift is.”
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37697315/brooklyn-beckham-unfollows-david-victoria-instagram-family-feud/

    Who cares and it certainly is not massive breaking global news

    Epstein, US attacking Syria, and arresting another ship in international waters off Venezuala is

    You know, I'm old enough to remember a time Donald Trump said he wouldn't do global adventurism.
    He has the not at all nonsensical Fifa Peace Prize now, no need for more peace.
    That won't stop him trying to make a piece, although old age hopefully has damped his libido somewhat.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,101
    A man with a moustache and tank top makes fun of Ajax

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cMalKP4c4s
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,370
    kle4 said:

    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    Massive breaking global news story tonight!!

    'UNFRIEND IT LIKE BECKHAM Fresh twist in Beckham family feud as David and Victoria unfollow son Brooklyn on Instagram after snub from brothers.
    It comes after their sons Romeo, 23, and Cruz, 20, unfollowed their brother and his wife on the app in July.

    A source said: “This is the ultimate snub in 2025 – it shows just how deep their rift is.”
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37697315/brooklyn-beckham-unfollows-david-victoria-instagram-family-feud/

    Who cares and it certainly is not massive breaking global news

    Epstein, US attacking Syria, and arresting another ship in international waters off Venezuala is

    You know, I'm old enough to remember a time Donald Trump said he wouldn't do global adventurism.
    He has the not at all nonsensical Fifa Peace Prize now, no need for more peace.
    He’s looked at the other winners of the Nobel Peace Prize, and noticed….
  • NEW THREAD

  • HYUFD said:

    Massive breaking global news story tonight!!

    'UNFRIEND IT LIKE BECKHAM Fresh twist in Beckham family feud as David and Victoria unfollow son Brooklyn on Instagram after snub from brothers.
    It comes after their sons Romeo, 23, and Cruz, 20, unfollowed their brother and his wife on the app in July.

    A source said: “This is the ultimate snub in 2025 – it shows just how deep their rift is.”
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37697315/brooklyn-beckham-unfollows-david-victoria-instagram-family-feud/

    Who cares and it certainly is not massive breaking global news

    Epstein, US attacking Syria, and arresting another ship in international waters off Venezuala is

    True, but this is the paper that once decided that the allagation that Freddie Starr ate someone's hamster was the most important news of the day.
  • carnforth said:

    Channel 4, 9.10pm tonight. The most Christmas of all Christmas movies!

    I've set it to record.

    Incoming ban alert!
    I would never ban people for saying Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

    The more people say it then it just increases the chance I use the Farage photo in an upcoming header.
    Is the Farage photo a Christmas photo?


    Christmas has come for some.
    Isn't that profile photo Nigel Farage in a long blonde wig?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,507

    Scott_xP said:

    @Todd_Spence

    James Cameron naming DIE HARD as his favorite action movie ever - and deeming it the greatest Christmas movie ever 🔥

    https://x.com/Todd_Spence/status/2002465573738062031?s=20

    James Cameron needs to pipe down and stop producing overly long shite films.

    Avatar: Fire and Ash review: The latest in the sci-fi adventure series is the longest and worst yet

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/culture/article/20251215-avatar-fire-and-ash-review

    Honestly, if Avatar: Fire & Water sucked any more, I would have orgasmed in the cinema.
    I had no idea they were still doing these. How awful.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 53,597

    Channel 4, 9.10pm tonight. The most Christmas of all Christmas movies!

    I've set it to record.

    Incoming ban alert!
    I would never ban people for saying Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

    The more people say it then it just increases the chance I use the Farage photo in an upcoming header.
    DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE!
    I see we have hit that point in the annual seasonal festivities and it is not even the solstice. Seems to come around earlier every year.
    C4 is getting it out of the way before Xmas starts, clearly
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,101
    edited December 20

    HYUFD said:

    Massive breaking global news story tonight!!

    'UNFRIEND IT LIKE BECKHAM Fresh twist in Beckham family feud as David and Victoria unfollow son Brooklyn on Instagram after snub from brothers.
    It comes after their sons Romeo, 23, and Cruz, 20, unfollowed their brother and his wife on the app in July.

    A source said: “This is the ultimate snub in 2025 – it shows just how deep their rift is.”

    The source pointed ohttps://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37697315/brooklyn-beckham-unfollows-david-victoria-instagram-family-feud/

    Can we go back to arguing about trans trains, please?
    This is the Transport For Wales Class 398 tram-train. Because the network in Wales is multi-mode, it can travel on tracks like a train using onboard batteries, or tracks with overhead power like an electrified train, or tram rails down the road like a tram. It can in fact transition from mode to mode as it travels to and from its destination.

    This would make it a trans tram train

    I thank you (bows to the audience)
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