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  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,176
    kle4 said:

    Supreme Court hands Trump another win. This time on re-districting.

    One day their faces will be being eaten by leopards and they will wonder why.

    You'd think in their position they could afford to take a longer view and not be so beholden to Trump like the rest of the GOP. Yet that day sailed the day they declared him effectively immune from any consequences.
    You would also think that being lawyers and graduates of the finest universities and having been successful enough to make the SCOTUS they would be sufficiently steeped in learning and history to know that their names will be not be vaulted in the history books.


  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,176
    fitalass said:

    X
    Election Maps UK@ElectionMapsUK
    Stapleford South East (Broxtowe) Council By-Election Result:

    🏘️ BA: 34.6% (New)
    ➡️ RFM: 21.9% (New)
    🔶 LDM: 13.3% (-10.6)
    🌹 LAB: 11.4% (-17.6)
    🌳 CON: 9.6% (-11.6)
    🙋 Ind: 9.2% (New)

    No Ind (-14.7) or GRN (-11.1) as previous.

    Broxtowe Alliance GAIN from Labour.
    Changes w/ 2023.

    BA are former, pissed-off, Labour councillors.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,296

    fitalass said:

    X
    Election Maps UK@ElectionMapsUK
    Stapleford South East (Broxtowe) Council By-Election Result:

    🏘️ BA: 34.6% (New)
    ➡️ RFM: 21.9% (New)
    🔶 LDM: 13.3% (-10.6)
    🌹 LAB: 11.4% (-17.6)
    🌳 CON: 9.6% (-11.6)
    🙋 Ind: 9.2% (New)

    No Ind (-14.7) or GRN (-11.1) as previous.

    Broxtowe Alliance GAIN from Labour.
    Changes w/ 2023.

    BA are former, pissed-off, Labour councillors.
    That makes no sense. 60% of voters switched to new parties.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 21,626

    fitalass said:

    X
    Election Maps UK@ElectionMapsUK
    Stapleford South East (Broxtowe) Council By-Election Result:

    🏘️ BA: 34.6% (New)
    ➡️ RFM: 21.9% (New)
    🔶 LDM: 13.3% (-10.6)
    🌹 LAB: 11.4% (-17.6)
    🌳 CON: 9.6% (-11.6)
    🙋 Ind: 9.2% (New)

    No Ind (-14.7) or GRN (-11.1) as previous.

    Broxtowe Alliance GAIN from Labour.
    Changes w/ 2023.

    BA are former, pissed-off, Labour councillors.
    Maybe Labour could start a new Party and call themselves 'Pissed off Labour MPs'?
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,296
    Roger said:

    fitalass said:

    X
    Election Maps UK@ElectionMapsUK
    Stapleford South East (Broxtowe) Council By-Election Result:

    🏘️ BA: 34.6% (New)
    ➡️ RFM: 21.9% (New)
    🔶 LDM: 13.3% (-10.6)
    🌹 LAB: 11.4% (-17.6)
    🌳 CON: 9.6% (-11.6)
    🙋 Ind: 9.2% (New)

    No Ind (-14.7) or GRN (-11.1) as previous.

    Broxtowe Alliance GAIN from Labour.
    Changes w/ 2023.

    BA are former, pissed-off, Labour councillors.
    Maybe Labour could start a new Party and call themselves 'Pissed off Labour MPs'?
    Perhaps Nick Palmer can hefp but Broxtowe politics is a complete shambles.
  • The_WoodpeckerThe_Woodpecker Posts: 526
    theProle said:

    Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.

    The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.

    The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.

    If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.

    If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".

    I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.

    Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.

    MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.

    As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.

    theProle said:

    Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.

    The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.

    The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.

    If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.

    If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".

    I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.

    Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.

    MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.

    As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.

    Apart from the cynicism this is a very good point.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,296
    Lib Dem hold in Watford with over 50% of the vote.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,704
    theProle said:

    Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.

    The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.

    The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.

    If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.

    If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".

    I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.

    Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.

    MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.

    As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.

    Hopefully they'll have to ditch it. Same with digital ID itself.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,704
    Roger said:

    fitalass said:

    X
    Election Maps UK@ElectionMapsUK
    Stapleford South East (Broxtowe) Council By-Election Result:

    🏘️ BA: 34.6% (New)
    ➡️ RFM: 21.9% (New)
    🔶 LDM: 13.3% (-10.6)
    🌹 LAB: 11.4% (-17.6)
    🌳 CON: 9.6% (-11.6)
    🙋 Ind: 9.2% (New)

    No Ind (-14.7) or GRN (-11.1) as previous.

    Broxtowe Alliance GAIN from Labour.
    Changes w/ 2023.

    BA are former, pissed-off, Labour councillors.
    Maybe Labour could start a new Party and call themselves 'Pissed off Labour MPs'?
    Isn't that what Your Party is?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,704

    fitalass said:

    X
    Election Maps UK@ElectionMapsUK2m
    Nunthorpe (Middlesbrough) Council By-Election Result:

    ➡️ RFM: 35.8% (New)
    🔶 LDM: 35.0% (-1.3)
    🌳 CON: 20.9% (-14.2)
    🌍 GRN: 5.0% (New)
    🌹 LAB: 3.3% (-6.7)

    No Ind (-18.7) as previous.

    Reform GAIN from Liberal Democrat.
    Changes w/ 2023.

    Tight. Recount?

    Probably. Raw figures:

    Reform: 563
    Lib Dem: 550
    Conservative: 328
    Labour: 52
    Green:79
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,987
    Roger said:

    fitalass said:

    X
    Election Maps UK@ElectionMapsUK
    Stapleford South East (Broxtowe) Council By-Election Result:

    🏘️ BA: 34.6% (New)
    ➡️ RFM: 21.9% (New)
    🔶 LDM: 13.3% (-10.6)
    🌹 LAB: 11.4% (-17.6)
    🌳 CON: 9.6% (-11.6)
    🙋 Ind: 9.2% (New)

    No Ind (-14.7) or GRN (-11.1) as previous.

    Broxtowe Alliance GAIN from Labour.
    Changes w/ 2023.

    BA are former, pissed-off, Labour councillors.
    Maybe Labour could start a new Party and call themselves 'Pissed off Labour MPs'?
    "Your Other Party"
  • theProletheProle Posts: 1,617

    theProle said:

    Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.

    The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.

    The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.

    If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.

    If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".

    I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.

    Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.

    MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.

    As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.

    theProle said:

    Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.

    The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.

    The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.

    If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.

    If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".

    I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.

    Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.

    MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.

    As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.

    Apart from the cynicism this is a very good point.
    My cynicism is based on a lifetime in which government has yet to supprise on the upside on any occasion I've interacted with it, but quite frequently falls below the low bar my expectations have set for it.

    In practical terms, they are insane trying to do this all at once. They should have had a substantial period (five years?) where verification was only required for new directors. That would give plenty of time to iron out the problems, get people used to dealing with the system, and would have verified a good chunk of directors. Then asking for companies to fill in the gaps as part of a confirmation statement filing would be fairly painless.

    Trying to do it for every company, great and small, in 12 months, with a half finished system, is just nuts.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,296
    Why is East Devon taking so long? I know they have a parish election as well but this smacks of incompetance.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,704
    theProle said:

    theProle said:

    Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.

    The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.

    The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.

    If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.

    If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".

    I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.

    Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.

    MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.

    As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.

    theProle said:

    Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.

    The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.

    The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.

    If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.

    If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".

    I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.

    Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.

    MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.

    As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.

    Apart from the cynicism this is a very good point.
    My cynicism is based on a lifetime in which government has yet to supprise on the upside on any occasion I've interacted with it, but quite frequently falls below the low bar my expectations have set for it.

    In practical terms, they are insane trying to do this all at once. They should have had a substantial period (five years?) where verification was only required for new directors. That would give plenty of time to iron out the problems, get people used to dealing with the system, and would have verified a good chunk of directors. Then asking for companies to fill in the gaps as part of a confirmation statement filing would be fairly painless.

    Trying to do it for every company, great and small, in 12 months, with a half finished system, is just nuts.
    My dad runs a small business and doesn't have a smartphone. Hope this doesn't cause a problem for him.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 34,076
    theProle said:

    Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.

    The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.

    The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.

    If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.

    If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".

    I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.

    Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.

    MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.

    As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.

    I'm stuck on this myself and need to call the helpless line in the morning. On an unrelated note I see Betfred has just been fined for not having procedures to check FOBT players are not money laundering. No-one is money laundering at £2 a spin. When it was £100 a spin, yes. Likewise I'm on the list because I own a flat. I'm not importing, exporting or laundering. The government lacks any sense of scale and proportion.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,704
    edited 2:14AM

    theProle said:

    Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.

    The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.

    The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.

    If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.

    If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".

    I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.

    Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.

    MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.

    As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.

    I'm stuck on this myself and need to call the helpless line in the morning. On an unrelated note I see Betfred has just been fined for not having procedures to check FOBT players are not money laundering. No-one is money laundering at £2 a spin. When it was £100 a spin, yes. Likewise I'm on the list because I own a flat. I'm not importing, exporting or laundering. The government lacks any sense of scale and proportion.
    You always used to be able to walk into any bank and, say, change a £20 note into two tens, etc, but if you try doing it now, they won't, unless you stick your bank card into the machine and effectively do it through your bank account, so it has to be your bank, not just any bank.

    And I assume the reason for this is something to do with money laundering. As if a money launderer would waste time walking into a bank with a few banknotes and change them into different denominations. Ridiculous.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 62,546

    theProle said:

    Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.

    The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.

    The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.

    If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.

    If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".

    I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.

    Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.

    MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.

    As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.

    I'm stuck on this myself and need to call the helpless line in the morning. On an unrelated note I see Betfred has just been fined for not having procedures to check FOBT players are not money laundering. No-one is money laundering at £2 a spin. When it was £100 a spin, yes. Likewise I'm on the list because I own a flat. I'm not importing, exporting or laundering. The government lacks any sense of scale and proportion.
    That's exactly what someone who was laundering money would say.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,993
    edited 5:03AM
    OK, I've had it now with Jamie Smith. We have better wicketkeepers, plenty of them. How can keep picking one who doesn't hold catches and misses easy stumpings?
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,827
    Nigelb said:

    Build a new factory for something else
    (CV90 or the Korean kit)

    So basically just do Ajax again with a different vehicle? Why the fuck would we want to do that?

    Scrap it with no replacement, make do with Boxer and spend whatever small amount of money is left on retention of key trades/ranks. That would be the best thing to improve the country's defence capabilities. If that's what any of this is about which it probably isn't.
  • theProle said:

    Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.

    The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.

    The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.

    If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.

    If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".

    I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.

    Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.

    MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.

    As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.

    It's a dry run for Digital ID and not something I want anything to do with. Confirmation statements that involve me are June and July and I hope the system has collapsed before then.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,287
    Australia on course for a colossal first innings lead here.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,161
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    Dura_Ace said:

    Nigelb said:

    Build a new factory for something else
    (CV90 or the Korean kit)

    So basically just do Ajax again with a different vehicle? Why the fuck would we want to do that?

    Scrap it with no replacement, make do with Boxer and spend whatever small amount of money is left on retention of key trades/ranks. That would be the best thing to improve the country's defence capabilities. If that's what any of this is about which it probably isn't.
    I don't massively disagree with that.
    But manufacturing capacity comes into it, and if they're going to make a tracked IFV here then it ought at least to be one that works, is combat proven, and sells in numbers outside of the UK.

    Pay for it by scrapping Challenger.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,287

    OK, I've had it now with Jamie Smith. We have better wicketkeepers, plenty of them. How can keep picking one who doesn't hold catches and misses easy stumpings?

    If he does play, there's surely a case to move him to 3 in place of Ollie Pope and pick a proper keeper to bat 7.

    With Stokes and Crawley likely to be gone too there are places opening up in the order anyway.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,773
    Andy_JS said:

    theProle said:

    Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.

    The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.

    The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.

    If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.

    If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".

    I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.

    Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.

    MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.

    As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.

    I'm stuck on this myself and need to call the helpless line in the morning. On an unrelated note I see Betfred has just been fined for not having procedures to check FOBT players are not money laundering. No-one is money laundering at £2 a spin. When it was £100 a spin, yes. Likewise I'm on the list because I own a flat. I'm not importing, exporting or laundering. The government lacks any sense of scale and proportion.
    You always used to be able to walk into any bank and, say, change a £20 note into two tens, etc, but if you try doing it now, they won't, unless you stick your bank card into the machine and effectively do it through your bank account, so it has to be your bank, not just any bank.

    And I assume the reason for this is something to do with money laundering. As if a money launderer would waste time walking into a bank with a few banknotes and change them into different denominations. Ridiculous.
    All people care about now is following policy and process, not actually helping anyone.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,773

    theProle said:

    Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.

    The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.

    The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.

    If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.

    If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".

    I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.

    Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.

    MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.

    As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.

    I'm stuck on this myself and need to call the helpless line in the morning. On an unrelated note I see Betfred has just been fined for not having procedures to check FOBT players are not money laundering. No-one is money laundering at £2 a spin. When it was £100 a spin, yes. Likewise I'm on the list because I own a flat. I'm not importing, exporting or laundering. The government lacks any sense of scale and proportion.
    That's because it's all about the political message, not actually controlling the real risk.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,993
    ydoethur said:

    OK, I've had it now with Jamie Smith. We have better wicketkeepers, plenty of them. How can keep picking one who doesn't hold catches and misses easy stumpings?

    If he does play, there's surely a case to move him to 3 in place of Ollie Pope and pick a proper keeper to bat 7.

    With Stokes and Crawley likely to be gone too there are places opening up in the order anyway.
    The management seem to be completely committed to Smith despite plenty of evidence that he is not a Test standard keeper. He would however be worth his place as a specialist batter were it not for Bethell waiting in the wings. As things stand, we may as well put Pope behind the stumps and have an extra batter.

    I can't see Stokes and Crawley being dropped this series.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,993
    @ydoethur

    I don't understand the selectors' approach. Surely you start by picking the best keeper and you put him in the line up according to his batting ability; if that means he bats nine/ten/jack, so be it. If you have more than one keeper of Test standard, you lean towards the better batsman. I have the impression with Smith that he is purely a batsman but has managed to make himself into an ok keeper to improve his selection chances. He doesn't look natural behind the stumps. There have been other tall keepers of the highest standard but they worked on their technique to compensate for a physique that is not helpful in a job where you sometimes have to spend all day crouching. Maybe Smith can improve. Rodney Marsh was famously clumsy when he started out but made himself into one of the greats.

    We can only hope the same applies to Smith if the selectors stay stubbornly with him.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,106

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  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,001
    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    theProle said:

    Have we done the slow moving disaster zone that is company director ID verification? It's not blown up in the government's face yet, but it has the potential.

    The gov has decided that the era of just taking names and addresses of people who are running a company is over. They want to "verify" everyone's identity. Therefore every company director has to get their ID verified, at which point Companies House doles out a magic 11 digit string of random letters and numbers. You can't become a company director without entering this magic string of letters into Companies House's website, nor can you file a company annual confirmation statement without having doing this for all existing directors.

    The system went live in November, with the intention of getting every single director verified by November next year as confirmation statements fall due.

    If you have a biometric passport, and a modernish smartphone, it's a doddle. 15 mins of you life wasted, and boom there's a code. Save it somewhere, and you're done for life.

    If you've no photo driving licence or passport, it's virtually impossible - you just end up in an endless cycle of "system says no" and calling helplines full of sympathetic people with no actual solutions. There is no published guidance on what to do without these two documents, other than ring the helpline, where they suck their teeth and say "that's tricky, isn't it".

    I've the misfortune to be Finance director and secretary of a charity that's structured as a limited company - and worse still our confirmation statement is due in two weeks, so I'm effectively one of the guinea pigs for this stupid process. I'm going round in circles because one of our elected directors/trustees (who is 79) has no photo ID. At the current rate of progress we're going to end up fined for not filling.

    Repeat the saga literally millions of times over the next year - there are about 5.5 million companies with about 8 million directors to go through this process - and it's going to be carnage. Small charities, flats where the freehold is held in a jointly owned and managed company by the leaseholders, sports clubs etc are all gong to be banging their heads against brick walls trying to make it work.

    MPs will probably have a pile of caseworke off it. Hundreds of thousands of companies are going to end up filing late, and thousands will probably end up with substantial fines or struck off.

    As I say, it's not yet publicly exploded in the government's face - but it's quite likely to at some point in the next 12 months.

    I'm stuck on this myself and need to call the helpless line in the morning. On an unrelated note I see Betfred has just been fined for not having procedures to check FOBT players are not money laundering. No-one is money laundering at £2 a spin. When it was £100 a spin, yes. Likewise I'm on the list because I own a flat. I'm not importing, exporting or laundering. The government lacks any sense of scale and proportion.
    You always used to be able to walk into any bank and, say, change a £20 note into two tens, etc, but if you try doing it now, they won't, unless you stick your bank card into the machine and effectively do it through your bank account, so it has to be your bank, not just any bank.

    And I assume the reason for this is something to do with money laundering. As if a money launderer would waste time walking into a bank with a few banknotes and change them into different denominations. Ridiculous.
    All people care about now is following policy and process, not actually helping anyone.
    AML rules cannot br ignored. The problem is not the bank clerks it is the rules.

    These are an absolute nightmare. The hassle my 85 year old aunt went through proving "source of funds" when she gave £20 000 to her grandsons for a flat deposit was out of this world. She had cashed in some Premium Bonds that she had held for 2 decades and had to show where she got that money in the first place. Anyone working in conveyancing has similar stories every week.

    Similarly, I am a Trustee for a couple of charities, and we have a number of accounts to manage our funds. We want to take advantage of better interest rates on our reserves, but opening any new account takes months (often the rate disappears in the meantime).

    Abolishing or greatly reducing AML rules is the sort of deregulation needed in our economy. I cannot see anyone really engaged in money laundering doing it by either of these means.

    AML rules date from 2014, I think.
    The big problem with it is that ordinary people are put through the wringer for relatively small sums gifted by relatives but someone who one moment is dependent on the generosity of others because they can't make their six figure salary stretch to the end of the month, can then buy a £5m property for cash the next seemingly without any issues.
    It doesn't seem to stop ML while being a huge hassle.
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