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  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,723
    My X feed seems to be filling up nicely with medium range weather types saying mid november onwards is gonna be cold, cold, cold.

    DYOR
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,551

    viewcode said:

    People are talking about the Traitors TV show. I haven't watched it. What is the nature of the kerfuffle?

    It's an entertaining series based on the difficulty in deciding who is bluffing/double-bluffing whom. Because it's TV, they successfully got lots of people engaged and rooting for one or another of the teams.
    That I understand, but there was an uptick in people being upset by it tonight. I'll google, see what happened.
  • kle4 said:

    Taz said:

    nico67 said:

    Taz said:

    carnforth said:

    Rachel Reeves plans to raise income tax in upcoming budget

    The chancellor’s submission to Office for Budget Responsibility strongly indicates she will be reversing a key manifesto pledge this month


    Rachel Reeves has told the budget watchdog that she plans to increase income tax as she seeks to repair the public finances.

    The chancellor has informed the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) that a rise in personal taxation is one of the “major measures” on tax and spending that she is preparing to announce later this month.

    The forecaster will assess the impact of the measures, which also include Reeves’s plans to increase economic growth, before informing the Treasury of its assessment on Monday. It is the penultimate round of forecasts before the budget on November 26.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/rachel-reeves-budget-watchdog-raise-income-tax-plan-sr2wd8mp7

    21%/42% is my guess.
    This is in line with my thinking. In isolation it will raise around £12bn. In addition 47 or 48% for the additional rate which will raise less than £1bn but will be done to send a political message about 'fairness' and 'making those with the broadest shoulders pay more'.
    It's going to be utterly grim for additional rate taxpayers, we're going to get squeezed like a fiscal Singapore grip.
    Lucy Powell is going into but for you guys

    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1986481340112408586?s=61
    Powell has decided that by going down this route it will help her leadership ambitions. She can turn around and play the manifesto pledge martyr !
    Indeed. She’s just not a serious politician given this, how else are they supposed to get the level of money they need.
    Magic money tree, same as every other politician who grubs after popularity. Different species, but the same basic principle.

    Something for nothing beats nothing for something in the polls. Always has, always will, unfortunately.
    One day we'll have to wake up from that dream. But it is not this day.
    MMT exists but it requires systemic change.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,723
    Republicans against Trump
    @RpsAgainstTrump
    ·
    59m

    Steve Bannon: If we lose the midterms and we lose 2028, some in this room are going to prison, myself included.


    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1986561872674627808
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 8,354

    isam said:

    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Find Out Now
    @FindoutnowUK

    Find Out Now voting intention:
    🟦 Reform UK: 33% (+1)
    🟢 Greens: 18% (+1)
    🔵 Conservatives: 16% (-)
    🔴 Labour: 15% (-1)
    🟠 Lib Dems: 11% (-1)

    Changes from 29th October
    [Find Out Now, 5-6th November, N=2,717]"

    https://x.com/FindoutnowUK/status/1986482146828025866

    Gives Reform 401 MPs, LDs 68, Greens 62, SNP 41, Labour 25, Conservatives 20.

    Mind you it is FON
    https://electionmaps.uk/nowcast/custom

    Andrew Lilico
    @andrew_lilico
    ·
    5h
    Has there ever been an opinion poll, since polling began, that would have entailed Labour getting fewer than 25 seats?

    https://x.com/andrew_lilico/status/1986488752978481585
    The polls are absurd at the moment, it is surely not worth extrapolating anything from them. To have a party with 5 MPs predicted to get over 400 seats is so fantastic that it must break any model used to deduce the parliamentary arithmetic

    How could you bet on it? 3/1 Reform Maj 10/11 most seats will look like the ones that got away if they do it, or the muggiest get ever if they crash and burn.
    If Reform were to win the next election (a big “if”) it’ll be as a minority propped up by the rump of the Tories or a 330-340 seat sort of victory, IMHO.

    I don’t have the same confidence that tactical voting will be the complete spoiler that some think on here, but I think it’s clear it’ll have some impact, and it will definitely prevent a complete wipeout for Lab/LD
    There is a possibility that the period before the next election will be like 1994-1997 and Farage will consolidate a Blair-level domination of mainstream politics.
    I think he’s far too marmite to win big in a first election. If he were to actually get to Downing Street in the first place, things start to become interesting, but it must remain more likely than not that he’d struggle to hold together a coherent and stable government given his record.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,858

    I think the broader point about all this is the growing antisemitism that we are seeing in this country over recent years. That Jewish communities thrived in Britain during the twentieth century while they were subject to pogroms and worse elsewhere is something we should justly be proud of. And now, that tradition is now in serious jeopardy and far too many of our citizens are blind to it (wilfully in some cases).

    I'm Jewish by the formal; definition (maternal line), and I'm proud of the extent to which countries helped in the face of the Nazi atrocities, especially Denmark and Sweden, but also Britain for the resasons you say.That doesn't extend to supporting Netanyahu and his disgusting regime. I don't see why Jewish people should be expected to think differently or, conversely, why they should be blamed for it if they didn't vote for him.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,266
    LD gain in Devon, Ref gain in Newark.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,552

    My X feed seems to be filling up nicely with medium range weather types saying mid november onwards is gonna be cold, cold, cold.

    DYOR

    Otherwise known as “winter” I suppose.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,266
    Another Ref gain in Newark.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,551

    My X feed seems to be filling up nicely with medium range weather types saying mid november onwards is gonna be cold, cold, cold.

    DYOR

    Otherwise known as “winter” I suppose.
    So the message from PB tonight is..."winter is coming" :):)
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,904
    Nigelb said:

    Eight months ??

    Eight months ago, Rep. Sylvester Turner D-TX died. His seat in the U.S. House is still vacant. On Tuesday, two Dems advanced to a runoff for that seat. When is the runoff?? We don't know.

    That runoff date still must be set by Gov. Greg Abbott.

    https://x.com/jamiedupree/status/1986505834134691937

    Congressional terms are only 24 months. That's absurd.

    Although in Ireland it is accepted as normal that the government will delay Dail by-elections as long as possible if it gives them an advantage. They're expected to delay the by-election to elect the replacement TD for the new President for the full six months allowed by law.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 131,308

    Republicans against Trump
    @RpsAgainstTrump
    ·
    59m

    Steve Bannon: If we lose the midterms and we lose 2028, some in this room are going to prison, myself included.


    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1986561872674627808

    Steve, you have already been in prison anyway
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/29/steve-bannon-released-from-prison-early-a-week-before-us-election
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 62,241

    bobbob said:

    Eabhal said:

    isam said:

    Eabhal said:

    bobbob said:

    Anyone hear much today from Kier Starmer, Lisa Nandy et al on the Maccabib Tel Aviv match ? Feels like it’s all gone quiet over there

    Turns out the ban on fans wasn't because of rampant anti-Semitism in Birmingham, as anyone with a sliver of knowledge of football could have told you: https://news.sky.com/story/significant-hooliganism-within-maccabi-tel-aviv-fan-base-is-reason-for-aston-villa-match-ban-13465257

    A lot of ill-informed hyperventilating on PB a few weeks ago.

    I reckon there is a fair bit of anti-semitism in Birmingham though. More than a sliver. And if it hadn't been a place with so many muslims living there, the away fans would have been allowed
    From that police statement it looks like they were worried about the Maccabi fans targeting Brummies.
    The police are talking shite.

    Jews were being threatened by anti-Semites, and the response by the police was to tell the Jews not to come.

    I think the problem is that you can only see Jewish people as Jews regardless of any other attributes,

    You are unable to see Israeli football hooligans as anything but Jews therefore preventing them attacking Britain is antisemitic

    Thankfully most people in this country aren’t racist so do can understand the difference.
    So why aren't fans of other teams banned?

    Anx why was the ban implemented following threats from local anti-Semiites?
    Well, normally when trouble is expected then fans (with tickets) are bussed in from afar.

    That happens here in LA when the Galaxy plays LAFC. I've seen it with Arsenal v Chelsea (including shit being thrown at the Chelsea supporters buses by... enthusiastic... Arsenal fans).

    It should have happened here.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,346

    isam said:

    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Find Out Now
    @FindoutnowUK

    Find Out Now voting intention:
    🟦 Reform UK: 33% (+1)
    🟢 Greens: 18% (+1)
    🔵 Conservatives: 16% (-)
    🔴 Labour: 15% (-1)
    🟠 Lib Dems: 11% (-1)

    Changes from 29th October
    [Find Out Now, 5-6th November, N=2,717]"

    https://x.com/FindoutnowUK/status/1986482146828025866

    Gives Reform 401 MPs, LDs 68, Greens 62, SNP 41, Labour 25, Conservatives 20.

    Mind you it is FON
    https://electionmaps.uk/nowcast/custom

    Andrew Lilico
    @andrew_lilico
    ·
    5h
    Has there ever been an opinion poll, since polling began, that would have entailed Labour getting fewer than 25 seats?

    https://x.com/andrew_lilico/status/1986488752978481585
    The polls are absurd at the moment, it is surely not worth extrapolating anything from them. To have a party with 5 MPs predicted to get over 400 seats is so fantastic that it must break any model used to deduce the parliamentary arithmetic

    How could you bet on it? 3/1 Reform Maj 10/11 most seats will look like the ones that got away if they do it, or the muggiest get ever if they crash and burn.
    If Reform were to win the next election (a big “if”) it’ll be as a minority propped up by the rump of the Tories or a 330-340 seat sort of victory, IMHO.

    I don’t have the same confidence that tactical voting will be the complete spoiler that some think on here, but I think it’s clear it’ll have some impact, and it will definitely prevent a complete wipeout for Lab/LD
    There is a possibility that the period before the next election will be like 1994-1997 and Farage will consolidate a Blair-level domination of mainstream politics.
    I think he’s far too marmite to win big in a first election. If he were to actually get to Downing Street in the first place, things start to become interesting, but it must remain more likely than not that he’d struggle to hold together a coherent and stable government given his record.
    At the moment he seems very serious about not only winning but governing and that will create its own momentum. He could end up being the best-prepared first term PM since Thatcher.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 62,241
    isam said:

    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Find Out Now
    @FindoutnowUK

    Find Out Now voting intention:
    🟦 Reform UK: 33% (+1)
    🟢 Greens: 18% (+1)
    🔵 Conservatives: 16% (-)
    🔴 Labour: 15% (-1)
    🟠 Lib Dems: 11% (-1)

    Changes from 29th October
    [Find Out Now, 5-6th November, N=2,717]"

    https://x.com/FindoutnowUK/status/1986482146828025866

    Gives Reform 401 MPs, LDs 68, Greens 62, SNP 41, Labour 25, Conservatives 20.

    Mind you it is FON
    https://electionmaps.uk/nowcast/custom

    Andrew Lilico
    @andrew_lilico
    ·
    5h
    Has there ever been an opinion poll, since polling began, that would have entailed Labour getting fewer than 25 seats?

    https://x.com/andrew_lilico/status/1986488752978481585
    The polls are absurd at the moment, it is surely not worth extrapolating anything from them. To have a party with 5 MPs predicted to get over 400 seats is so fantastic that it must break any model used to deduce the parliamentary arithmetic

    How could you bet on it? 3/1 Reform Maj 10/11 most seats will look like the ones that got away if they do it, or the muggiest get ever if they crash and burn.
    The 3/1 on Reform majority looks to be good value. In a world where the electorate is so fractured, then getting 30+% can result in a massive victory.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,552
    viewcode said:

    My X feed seems to be filling up nicely with medium range weather types saying mid november onwards is gonna be cold, cold, cold.

    DYOR

    Otherwise known as “winter” I suppose.
    So the message from PB tonight is..."winter is coming" :):)
    Well a march of the undead from the North, hell-bent on destroying civilisation, describes the Labour electorate quite well.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,266
    Interesting electuon in Wellingtin TC in Somerset. An Ind candidate joined the Lib Dems during the election and won easily.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,381
    edited November 6
    viewcode said:

    People are talking about the Traitors TV show. I haven't watched it. What is the nature of the kerfuffle?

    It's the first TV programme in roughly 20 years that I've found very interesting to watch. (The previous one was probably the crime drama Waking The Dead on BBC starring Trevor Eve and Sue Johnston which started in 2001 IIRC). What's fascinating about it is the way people desperately search for evidence of whether someone is a traitor or not based on almost nothing. Doesn't sound particularly compelling written down but for some reason it is.
  • Republicans against Trump
    @RpsAgainstTrump
    ·
    59m

    Steve Bannon: If we lose the midterms and we lose 2028, some in this room are going to prison, myself included.


    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1986561872674627808

    He's right. If the Republicans lose in 2028 an awful lot of people are going to jail, from Trump's inner circle to ICE agents. Bannon is evil, but not stupid. He understands how high the sakes are.

    Which is why they will do everything to ensure there is no free and fair election in 2028.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,723

    viewcode said:

    My X feed seems to be filling up nicely with medium range weather types saying mid november onwards is gonna be cold, cold, cold.

    DYOR

    Otherwise known as “winter” I suppose.
    So the message from PB tonight is..."winter is coming" :):)
    Well a march of the undead from the North, hell-bent on destroying civilisation, describes the Labour electorate quite well.
    I thought the latest polls had established that was Reform voters?
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,552

    viewcode said:

    My X feed seems to be filling up nicely with medium range weather types saying mid november onwards is gonna be cold, cold, cold.

    DYOR

    Otherwise known as “winter” I suppose.
    So the message from PB tonight is..."winter is coming" :):)
    Well a march of the undead from the North, hell-bent on destroying civilisation, describes the Labour electorate quite well.
    I thought the latest polls had established that was Reform voters?
    Never underestimate the ability of Labour to marshal its client zombie army in the name of sowshull justice.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,381
    "Cat killed by driverless taxi sparking neighbourhood fury

    Waymo car mowed down KitKat, a brown tabby beloved by the locals in San Francisco, and left the scene without stopping" (£)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/11/06/cat-killed-driverless-taxi-neighbourhoor-anger
  • On topic, loving the headline "I hope Nigel Farage is putting his money where his mouth is".

    I think we're all well aware it isn't Nigel's money, comrade.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,266
    IND gain from Lab in South Derbyshire.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,552
    Andy_JS said:

    "Cat killed by driverless taxi sparking neighbourhood fury

    Waymo car mowed down KitKat, a brown tabby beloved by the locals in San Francisco, and left the scene without stopping" (£)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/11/06/cat-killed-driverless-taxi-neighbourhoor-anger

    Who would have thought a driverless car would be a pussy-magnet. Ahem.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,266
    Snp gain in Fife. Ref gain in Harbrough.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,346
    slade said:

    Another Ref gain in Newark.

    More pressure on Jenrick.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,381
    edited 12:30AM
    Harborough. Fleckney

    RefUK gain from Con

    RefUK 551
    LD 453
    Con 416
    Green 102
    Lab 54

    Ref 34.96% [new]
    LD 28.74% [+2.12]
    Con 26.40% [-5.98]
    Grn 6.47% [-6.16]
    Lab 3.43% [-11.57]

    Ind previously -> 13.37%
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 62,241
    Andy_JS said:

    Harborough. Fleckney

    RefUK gain from Con

    RefUK 551
    LD 453
    Con 416
    Green 102
    Lab 54

    Ref 34.96% [new]
    LD 28.74% [+2.12]
    Con 26.40% [-5.98]
    Grn 6.47% [-6.16]
    Lab 3.43% [-11.57]

    Ind previously -> 13.37%

    It's fascinating how often we're seeing REF/LD one-twos these days.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 131,308

    Republicans against Trump
    @RpsAgainstTrump
    ·
    59m

    Steve Bannon: If we lose the midterms and we lose 2028, some in this room are going to prison, myself included.


    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1986561872674627808

    He's right. If the Republicans lose in 2028 an awful lot of people are going to jail, from Trump's inner circle to ICE agents. Bannon is evil, but not stupid. He understands how high the sakes are.

    Which is why they will do everything to ensure there is no free and fair election in 2028.
    It is at the state level that elections are run though and after the midterms on current trends most states may be run by Democrats
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,800
    Andy_JS said:

    "Cat killed by driverless taxi sparking neighbourhood fury

    Waymo car mowed down KitKat, a brown tabby beloved by the locals in San Francisco, and left the scene without stopping" (£)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/11/06/cat-killed-driverless-taxi-neighbourhoor-anger

    Was it supposed to stop and knock on all the neighbouring doors asking whose cat it was?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 62,241

    Andy_JS said:

    "Cat killed by driverless taxi sparking neighbourhood fury

    Waymo car mowed down KitKat, a brown tabby beloved by the locals in San Francisco, and left the scene without stopping" (£)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/11/06/cat-killed-driverless-taxi-neighbourhoor-anger

    Was it supposed to stop and knock on all the neighbouring doors asking whose cat it was?
    Google has a YouTube channel that contains 24 hour rolling* footage of all the cats Waymo has run down. So, if you're missing a cat, and Waymo operates in your area, just go to catkilla.youtube.com

    * Pun intended
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,096
    rcs1000 said:

    bobbob said:

    Eabhal said:

    isam said:

    Eabhal said:

    bobbob said:

    Anyone hear much today from Kier Starmer, Lisa Nandy et al on the Maccabib Tel Aviv match ? Feels like it’s all gone quiet over there

    Turns out the ban on fans wasn't because of rampant anti-Semitism in Birmingham, as anyone with a sliver of knowledge of football could have told you: https://news.sky.com/story/significant-hooliganism-within-maccabi-tel-aviv-fan-base-is-reason-for-aston-villa-match-ban-13465257

    A lot of ill-informed hyperventilating on PB a few weeks ago.

    I reckon there is a fair bit of anti-semitism in Birmingham though. More than a sliver. And if it hadn't been a place with so many muslims living there, the away fans would have been allowed
    From that police statement it looks like they were worried about the Maccabi fans targeting Brummies.
    The police are talking shite.

    Jews were being threatened by anti-Semites, and the response by the police was to tell the Jews not to come.

    I think the problem is that you can only see Jewish people as Jews regardless of any other attributes,

    You are unable to see Israeli football hooligans as anything but Jews therefore preventing them attacking Britain is antisemitic

    Thankfully most people in this country aren’t racist so do can understand the difference.
    So why aren't fans of other teams banned?

    Anx why was the ban implemented following threats from local anti-Semiites?
    Well, normally when trouble is expected then fans (with tickets) are bussed in from afar.

    That happens here in LA when the Galaxy plays LAFC. I've seen it with Arsenal v Chelsea (including shit being thrown at the Chelsea supporters buses by... enthusiastic... Arsenal fans).

    It should have happened here.
    So you’re saying that they’ve been playing professional “soccer” for about five minutes in the US, and already have problems with badly behaved fans?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,096
    GTA VI now set for release in November next year, not May.

    https://x.com/rockstargames/status/1986540361011880167

    Well that saves me getting the PS5 Pro for Christmas to beat the rush.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,310
    edited 5:25AM
    Just read the Executive Complaints Unit decision on Croxall and then a few other cases.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes..

    Embarrassingly woke doesn't begin to cover it. Day one of the next govt, shut it down and stat redundancy for everyone there
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,632
    Sky owner Comcast in talks to buy ITV’s broadcasting arm for £2bn
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/nov/06/sky-owner-comcast-in-talks-to-buy-itvs-broadcasting-arm-for-2bn

    More British assets to be sold abroad.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 1,908
    edited 5:50AM
    Good morning. Interesting take on Trump, MAGA and the GOP which may be a precursor to how people will view Reform in the future.
    “The GOP cannot sustain itself indefinitely as a movement defined by isolationism abroad and populism at home,” Flake wrote. “Those instincts may thrill a rally crowd, but they’re corrosive to governing. Eventually, voters tire of performative anger and want competence.”

    I recall meeting my future MP (a seasoned Tory) who asked if I'd be voting for him. I suggested that at the time I wouldn't but I might if his party could show some competence - basically what anyone wants. Why pay for fools whose answer to everything is to cosplay Victor Meldrew?

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5594031-gop-dissent-growing-trump/
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