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  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,688
    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    boulay said:

    Whilst Mamdami is from the other side of the political divide to me I was impressed by his victory speech. Very charismatic and hit all the right notes.

    I think he could very well be an effective rallying poin t with profile required to attack Trump for the Dems - they’ve needed someone to coalesce around and whilst he will be too far left for many he will get the airtime with decent attacks.

    Trump won’t like it being attacked from New York.

    What odds Mamdami gets arrested before 2028? Seems a likely Trumpian play.
    Am I in some parallel universe in which Trump was not hounded by multiple jurisdictions (including New York) when he lost the presidency ? With many of the cases things that no one had ever been prosecuted before. He was hounded, arrested, but ultimately no convictions.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to enact revenge, but let’s not pretend that his side is the only one that does it. The democratic machine and republican one are as poisonous as each other.
    You’re right. Remember It was Saint Leticia James, now under some legal difficulties herself, who ran for office on a pledge to ‘get Trump’ so what goes around etc etc.

    But it’s very much my side right or wrong for many.
    James’s legal difficulties are made up. Experienced prosecutors refused to proceed with the case. Trump had to parachute in a crony with no prior prosecutorial experience to get an indictment, and the case is falling apart. The prosecution of James is a clear example of how Trump has eroded democracy.
    There is a non-zero chance that as well as losing all the cases, she will end up in some personal legal jeopardy herself.

    Oh dear, how sad...
    The broligarchs do look after their own, even when they get into trouble. She will get very rich from this regardless of success, trouble or not.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,811

    Morning all! The impact on the mid-terms?

    There won’t be any in Democrat areas.

    No elections for seditious communist terrorists.

    That wouldn't surprise me, but one factor in democracy's benefit is that Trump is such a narcissist that he sees other Republicans losing as proof of his unique popularity. I'm not sure he's motivated to put in a huge effort to fix an election for other people.
    We've already had Trump saying that Republican defeats are because his name wasn't on the ballot. He's probably right- at least in the sense that generic Republicans being less popular than DJT.

    Even when he goes, things get worse before they have a chance of getting better.
    Trump's response is exactly why I've changed my view on this. He didn't say the vote had been rigged against the Republicans. That there were irregularities they had to fix for the midterms, etc. It was you lost because you're losers who aren't me and who didn't do what I said you should do.

    It's such a revealingly different response to his own elections where he's consistently alleged vote-rigging to reduce the margin of his victory/overturn the result.
    He has said (with no evidence) that the gerrymandering referendum in California was rigged.
    The election "monitors" in California are going to have quite a day
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,618

    NEW THREAD

  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,811

    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    boulay said:

    Whilst Mamdami is from the other side of the political divide to me I was impressed by his victory speech. Very charismatic and hit all the right notes.

    I think he could very well be an effective rallying poin t with profile required to attack Trump for the Dems - they’ve needed someone to coalesce around and whilst he will be too far left for many he will get the airtime with decent attacks.

    Trump won’t like it being attacked from New York.

    What odds Mamdami gets arrested before 2028? Seems a likely Trumpian play.
    Am I in some parallel universe in which Trump was not hounded by multiple jurisdictions (including New York) when he lost the presidency ? With many of the cases things that no one had ever been prosecuted before. He was hounded, arrested, but ultimately no convictions.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to enact revenge, but let’s not pretend that his side is the only one that does it. The democratic machine and republican one are as poisonous as each other.
    You’re right. Remember It was Saint Leticia James, now under some legal difficulties herself, who ran for office on a pledge to ‘get Trump’ so what goes around etc etc.

    But it’s very much my side right or wrong for many.
    James’s legal difficulties are made up. Experienced prosecutors refused to proceed with the case. Trump had to parachute in a crony with no prior prosecutorial experience to get an indictment, and the case is falling apart. The prosecution of James is a clear example of how Trump has eroded democracy.
    There is a non-zero chance that as well as losing all the cases, she will end up in some personal legal jeopardy herself.

    Oh dear, how sad...
    The broligarchs do look after their own, even when they get into trouble. She will get very rich from this regardless of success, trouble or not.
    Except they do that on the basis they will be useful again in the future. This one has messed up the only job she had and torched her reputation while doing it. Why bail her out?
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,688
    Scott_xP said:

    they both ran out of time and are open to the charge of only prosecuting him because he ran again.

    He only avoided prosecution by running again
    Firstly he avoided it because McConnell et all were too frit.

    Then it took 15 months for Garland to actually approve the investigation.

    And he didn't appoint a special counsel til after the mid terms.

    That is why Trump avoided prosecution.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,782
    Nigelb said:

    The best take I've seen on the NYC result.

    America’s exceptionalism is slightly overstated but New York City’s, if anything, is undersold, especially by people who don’t live here and would never want to. Bill Buckley and Norman Mailer both ran for mayor four years apart from each other; Mailer with Jimmy Breslin on a secessionist ticket. We elected a gay Jew who twice beat a Cuomo who campaigned on homophobia, then became governor. We had an Italian-American mob prosecutor who rallied the country in a time of national trauma but couldn’t clear a presidential primary and later crawled into bed with Russian intelligence and tried to overturn a U.S. presidential election. And another Italian-American mayor who ate pizza with a fucking knife and fork. In this race, the candidate with more than one cat* and a Che Guevara beret was… the Republican. Nobody here leads anything.
    https://x.com/michaeldweiss/status/1985934397590077565

    *Well into double figures.

    What wrong with eating pizza with a knife and fork?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 16,797
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    boulay said:

    Whilst Mamdami is from the other side of the political divide to me I was impressed by his victory speech. Very charismatic and hit all the right notes.

    I think he could very well be an effective rallying poin t with profile required to attack Trump for the Dems - they’ve needed someone to coalesce around and whilst he will be too far left for many he will get the airtime with decent attacks.

    Trump won’t like it being attacked from New York.

    What odds Mamdami gets arrested before 2028? Seems a likely Trumpian play.
    Am I in some parallel universe in which Trump was not hounded by multiple jurisdictions (including New York) when he lost the presidency ? With many of the cases things that no one had ever been prosecuted before. He was hounded, arrested, but ultimately no convictions.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to enact revenge, but let’s not pretend that his side is the only one that does it. The democratic machine and republican one are as poisonous as each other.
    You’re right. Remember It was Saint Leticia James, now under some legal difficulties herself, who ran for office on a pledge to ‘get Trump’ so what goes around etc etc.

    But it’s very much my side right or wrong for many.
    James’s legal difficulties are made up. Experienced prosecutors refused to proceed with the case. Trump had to parachute in a crony with no prior prosecutorial experience to get an indictment, and the case is falling apart. The prosecution of James is a clear example of how Trump has eroded democracy.
    She’s got nothing to worry about then👍
    She’s got the federal government against her, but the law on her side. In the past, she’d have nothing to worry about, but I return to the point about Trump eroding democracy. He’s already got the DoJ to stop investigating corruption or tax evasion so they can go after his personal enemies. In other cases, he’s just ignored legal rulings. He’s ignored the Constitution. I don’t think it’s safe to be on his enemies list.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,573
    Is there another site I can follow the race for the White House 2028 upon?

    It seems this board still loves Trump bashing; it reads like a Bluesky thread at the moment, and some of us want rational analysis not a circle-jerk.

    We don't want to lose money again.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,688
    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    boulay said:

    Whilst Mamdami is from the other side of the political divide to me I was impressed by his victory speech. Very charismatic and hit all the right notes.

    I think he could very well be an effective rallying poin t with profile required to attack Trump for the Dems - they’ve needed someone to coalesce around and whilst he will be too far left for many he will get the airtime with decent attacks.

    Trump won’t like it being attacked from New York.

    What odds Mamdami gets arrested before 2028? Seems a likely Trumpian play.
    Am I in some parallel universe in which Trump was not hounded by multiple jurisdictions (including New York) when he lost the presidency ? With many of the cases things that no one had ever been prosecuted before. He was hounded, arrested, but ultimately no convictions.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to enact revenge, but let’s not pretend that his side is the only one that does it. The democratic machine and republican one are as poisonous as each other.
    You’re right. Remember It was Saint Leticia James, now under some legal difficulties herself, who ran for office on a pledge to ‘get Trump’ so what goes around etc etc.

    But it’s very much my side right or wrong for many.
    James’s legal difficulties are made up. Experienced prosecutors refused to proceed with the case. Trump had to parachute in a crony with no prior prosecutorial experience to get an indictment, and the case is falling apart. The prosecution of James is a clear example of how Trump has eroded democracy.
    There is a non-zero chance that as well as losing all the cases, she will end up in some personal legal jeopardy herself.

    Oh dear, how sad...
    The broligarchs do look after their own, even when they get into trouble. She will get very rich from this regardless of success, trouble or not.
    Except they do that on the basis they will be useful again in the future. This one has messed up the only job she had and torched her reputation while doing it. Why bail her out?
    Because then the next useful idiot will also do random illegal shit on request for them.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 16,797

    Foxy said:

    dunham said:

    Sandpit said:

    Good luck New York, looks like the communist got elected.

    I guess we’re about to find out what happens when a finance capital elects someone who doesn’t believe in wealth or crime.

    It is a disaster for New York's very large Jewish community of well over 1 million that their fellow citizens have elected a radical pro-Hamas antisemitic socialist of Shiite ethnicity as New York mayor. It could precipitate mass emigration, for example to Florida or even Judea and Samaria. Together with the increasing antisemitism of the American right, as illustrated by the views of the Heritage Foundation and Tucker Carlson, the USA no longer appears to be the "Goldene Medina".
    You seem to assume that no Jews in NYC voted for Mamdani. That is not the case. Neither is it true that he supports Hamas, or is a Communist or radical. He describes himself as a Democratic Socialist, a political stance unremarkeable in most of the world.

    You’ve also got to remember that US terminology is skewed.

    In UK terms an American “raving commie traitor” would probably be a fairly mainstream member of Ed Milliband’s Labour Party
    Americans often get confused between socialists and communists. Which is especially ironic as socialists and communists *really* don't get on with each other.
    Socialists frequently don’t get on with other socialists, and communists frequently don’t get on with other communists!
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,688

    Is there another site I can follow the race for the White House 2028 upon?

    It seems this board still loves Trump bashing; it reads like a Bluesky thread at the moment, and some of us want rational analysis not a circle-jerk.

    We don't want to lose money again.

    Trump bashing and Trump bet backing are not at all incompatible. I'd love to be able to back DJT 2028 on Betfair but won't stop pointing out his mendacity.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,345
    Dopermean said:

    Taz said:

    boulay said:

    Whilst Mamdami is from the other side of the political divide to me I was impressed by his victory speech. Very charismatic and hit all the right notes.

    I think he could very well be an effective rallying poin t with profile required to attack Trump for the Dems - they’ve needed someone to coalesce around and whilst he will be too far left for many he will get the airtime with decent attacks.

    Trump won’t like it being attacked from New York.

    What odds Mamdami gets arrested before 2028? Seems a likely Trumpian play.
    Am I in some parallel universe in which Trump was not hounded by multiple jurisdictions (including New York) when he lost the presidency ? With many of the cases things that no one had ever been prosecuted before. He was hounded, arrested, but ultimately no convictions.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to enact revenge, but let’s not pretend that his side is the only one that does it. The democratic machine and republican one are as poisonous as each other.
    You’re right. Remember It was Saint Leticia James, now under some legal difficulties herself, who ran for office on a pledge to ‘get Trump’ so what goes around etc etc.

    But it’s very much my side right or wrong for many.
    It's definitely a parallel universe. Trump did a number of illegal things for which he was or should have been prosecuted but it's the US, so being rich, he gets away with it just like many othe rich people irrespective of their politics.
    The same playbook for the Epstein files - run down the clock (even if that brings Goverment to a grinding halt).

    There must be some truly damning stuff from that Epstein safe to warrant such measures. Stuff that should bring down Trump. And usher in the Age of Vance...
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,616

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    carnforth said:

    Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan
    @MayorofLondon

    Oxford Street’s Christmas lights are now on.


    ===

    Can we please get a private members bill to ban all xmas related activity until after Bonfire Night?

    I mean FFS.

    Bonfire night is dying. It was once a bigger thing than Halloween, now it’s a shadow of its former self. Whether it’s insurance costs, or using health and safety as an excuse or something else we are seeing the end of a great historic British tradition (well English, at least). Halloween now gives way to Christmas season. We don’t even have Thanksgiving to look forward to.
    Thanksgiving's July 4th, n'est pas?
    N’est-ce pas
    Thanksgiving is the day before the Black Friday sales, which have invaded this fair land.

    Bonfire night has three problems. First, air pollution concerns. Second, fireworks have moved forward a week or so to Diwali, and backwards a couple of months to New Year. Third, as you say, Halloween the week before.
  • eekeek Posts: 31,820

    Is there another site I can follow the race for the White House 2028 upon?

    It seems this board still loves Trump bashing; it reads like a Bluesky thread at the moment, and some of us want rational analysis not a circle-jerk.

    We don't want to lose money again.

    It’s 3 years to the next presidential election - nothing much is going to happen betting wise in the next 11 months.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,881

    Is there another site I can follow the race for the White House 2028 upon?

    It seems this board still loves Trump bashing; it reads like a Bluesky thread at the moment, and some of us want rational analysis not a circle-jerk.

    We don't want to lose money again.

    PB.com has always had a mix of posters, those who are capable of dispassionate analysis and those guilty of motivated reasoning.

    I don't find it that hard to distinguish between the two when it comes to US politics.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 53,839

    .

    carnforth said:

    Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan
    @MayorofLondon

    Oxford Street’s Christmas lights are now on.


    ===

    Can we please get a private members bill to ban all xmas related activity until after Bonfire Night?

    I mean FFS.

    Bonfire night is dying. It was once a bigger thing than Halloween, now it’s a shadow of its former self. Whether it’s insurance costs, or using health and safety as an excuse or something else we are seeing the end of a great historic British tradition (well English, at least). Halloween now gives way to Christmas season. We don’t even have Thanksgiving to look forward to.
    Thanksgiving's July 4th, n'est pas?
    N’est-ce pas
    Thanksgiving is the day before the Black Friday sales, which have invaded this fair land.

    Bonfire night has three problems. First, air pollution concerns. Second, fireworks have moved forward a week or so to Diwali, and backwards a couple of months to New Year. Third, as you say, Halloween the week before.
    When I lived in the US I really enjoyed Thanksgiving, and as a family we kept the tradition for some years after returning to the UK. One good thing about Thanksgiving is that Christmas couldn't start until afterwards in shops and malls. Its interesting to see that my Gen Z son marks it each year with his friends, with them all knowing it only secondhand from US media etc.

    Black Friday sales seem to have started already here, kind of missing the point.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,478

    ARSE PARSE!

  • TazTaz Posts: 21,973
    edited 9:19AM

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    boulay said:

    Whilst Mamdami is from the other side of the political divide to me I was impressed by his victory speech. Very charismatic and hit all the right notes.

    I think he could very well be an effective rallying poin t with profile required to attack Trump for the Dems - they’ve needed someone to coalesce around and whilst he will be too far left for many he will get the airtime with decent attacks.

    Trump won’t like it being attacked from New York.

    What odds Mamdami gets arrested before 2028? Seems a likely Trumpian play.
    Am I in some parallel universe in which Trump was not hounded by multiple jurisdictions (including New York) when he lost the presidency ? With many of the cases things that no one had ever been prosecuted before. He was hounded, arrested, but ultimately no convictions.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to enact revenge, but let’s not pretend that his side is the only one that does it. The democratic machine and republican one are as poisonous as each other.
    You’re right. Remember It was Saint Leticia James, now under some legal difficulties herself, who ran for office on a pledge to ‘get Trump’ so what goes around etc etc.

    But it’s very much my side right or wrong for many.
    James’s legal difficulties are made up. Experienced prosecutors refused to proceed with the case. Trump had to parachute in a crony with no prior prosecutorial experience to get an indictment, and the case is falling apart. The prosecution of James is a clear example of how Trump has eroded democracy.
    She’s got nothing to worry about then👍
    She’s got the federal government against her, but the law on her side. In the past, she’d have nothing to worry about, but I return to the point about Trump eroding democracy. He’s already got the DoJ to stop investigating corruption or tax evasion so they can go after his personal enemies. In other cases, he’s just ignored legal rulings. He’s ignored the Constitution. I don’t think it’s safe to be on his enemies list.
    Using the judiciary to target a political enemy is bad. Trump should not do it. Ms James shouldn’t have either. FAFO.

    Trump will be in trouble she. He leaves office as the dems will do the same.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,592
    On Democratic Socialists, including New York's mayor elect: Here's what I asked about Bernie Sanders, years ago: Is he a DEMOCRATIC socialist, or a democratic SOCIALIST?

    There are two interesting clues in his history: He spent his honeymoon visiting the Soviet Union. Alexander Solzhenitsyn moved to Vermont in 1976 and lived there until 1994, but Sanders never bothered to meet with him in all those years.

    (Incidentally, politics has a good business for Sanders; he's a millionaire, and he and his wife own three houses.)
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