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  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,499
    edited October 23
    Nigelb said:

    Marr: I thought Labour would fix everything. I was wrong
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7jA3PLbBYM

    Starmer has to go bandwagon getting going again.

    Marr was an idiot if he thought they'd "fix everything".

    I'd have settled for moderately competent stab at making a start to address our problems.

    That is a couple of decades' project.
    He doesn't actually really say that. Its the classic newspaper columnist writer something and then the editor sticks an outrageous headline at the top of it that is a massive exaggeration of what the column actually says.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,499
    Your joking...not another one....

    Meet Copilot Mode in Edge.
    https://x.com/MicrosoftEdge/status/1981390159292629352
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,465



    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian

    BREAKING: Nancy Pelosi says local authorities may arrest federal agents if they break California law, and if they are convicted, President Trump cannot pardon them.

    That's just a statement of fact.

    Drawing the borders between state and federal powers when the two clash is a bit more complicated, of course.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 28,406



    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian

    BREAKING: Nancy Pelosi says local authorities may arrest federal agents if they break California law, and if they are convicted, President Trump cannot pardon them.

    So what.

    California ignores federal laws so why shouldn't the federal government ignore California's laws ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city#California

    Either all sides start accepting that you have to uphold laws even if you don't like them or the USA heads to another 'states rights' dispute with the federal government.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,531
    Sean_F said:

    HYUFD said:

    Reform voters lead amongst those thinking they are going to heaven and hell. LDs and Greens think they are clearly going to hell, Tory and Labour voters to heaven, interesting.

    Voters at all incomes think they are mainly going to heaven, albeit middle income earners less sure. For Christians it is love of money not hard earned money and savings that is the problem, as long as you support charities, pay your taxes and help the poor even the rich can get to heaven

    Jesus didn't say the rich man who helps the poor isn't like the camel going through the eye of the needle...
    Across the centuries, the belief endures that if you do well in life, it’s because God approves of you.
    I sometimes question Gods motives.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,531

    Your joking...not another one....

    Meet Copilot Mode in Edge.
    https://x.com/MicrosoftEdge/status/1981390159292629352

    One day, one fine day, someone will make one of these that isn't shockingly bad. But today is not that day.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 21,092



    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian

    BREAKING: Nancy Pelosi says local authorities may arrest federal agents if they break California law, and if they are convicted, President Trump cannot pardon them.

    So what.

    California ignores federal laws so why shouldn't the federal government ignore California's laws ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city#California

    Either all sides start accepting that you have to uphold laws even if you don't like them or the USA heads to another 'states rights' dispute with the federal government.
    Do you know enough about the American legal system to know if California is required to collaborate with federal officials?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 57,799

    AnneJGP said:

    Marr: I thought Labour would fix everything. I was wrong
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7jA3PLbBYM

    Starmer has to go bandwagon getting going again.

    I had a great respect for Andrew Marr when he used to write for The Economist. Not so much, since then. But I'd have expected he would have enough contacts inside the Labour party to know there wasn't any plan for government, in which case he wouldn't have expected them to fix everything.

    Unless he was another who thought just being Labour was the silver bullet.
    I think lots of the media bought into every problem was down to the Tories being useless and all their drama of constantly changing the manager, and that even just a return to Blair or Cameron type technocratic middle ground management will little more will do the trick....the problem as John Gray said in his NS interview the world has changed a lot, the technocrats solutions to everything aren't working across the West and so you need well thought out change of direction and desire to go all in on it, get rid of the blockers, etc.
    See also the Process State worshipers - proper government means everything becomes a legal battle lasting a decade.

    Who’ve now realised that the stuff *they* want is also subject to it.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,543
    Phil said:

    Bannon comes v close to revealing how they plan to ensure that Trump can run in 2028 for third term in this clip.

    They have a plan, it will be revealed nearer the time he says but it involves contesting the meaning of the wording of the amendment's "terms". So presumably SCOTUS will be asked to rule on things like whether it meant consecutive or what "elected" means.

    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    Steve Bannon: “Well he’s gonna get a third term.

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian/status/1981432900273807392

    Even if the legal arguments are complete pie in the sky that won’t get through even Trump’s stacked Supreme Court, the current government needs Republicans in Congress to think that there’s a possibility that he might be able to stand again in order to maintain party discipline behind Trump.

    Otherwise, once the midterms are done with, there’s a strong chance that they run for the proverbial hills & repudiate Trump knowing that nobody who follows him will be able to whip up the MAGA vote in the way that Trump can against them.
    I get what your saying but I think these people are all high as kites on the Trump insanity juice and they really do believe he is the third coming and will be in office for the rest of their lives for the good of white america.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,499
    New: Across Silicon Valley, AI researchers are putting in 80-100 hour workweeks to keep pace with technological progress.

    Several compared it to war, and one executive even joked that the new work schedule is "0-0-2," midnight to midnight with two hours off.

    https://x.com/MeghanBobrowsky/status/1981180203146891416
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,846
    edited October 23
    Meanwhile, the chatter on my son's grapevine is all about the CS GO skin market crash caused by arbitrary changes in relative valuations in a game update. A very unregulated securities market, subject to the whim of the games company, and essentially NFTs and therefore we'd probably all think very much par for the course, but Steam seemed to be thought of fairly well as these things went.

    He does know people who lost a certain amount of money on these.

    https://www.tradingview.com/news/u_today:1945c947f094b:0-counter-strike-2-skins-market-loses-1-784-billion-in-24-hours-worse-than-some-crypto-meme-coins/

    I think being quite popular in Eastern Europe, this market did underpin some fundraising efforts for both sides in the Ukraine War. Steam have been leant on over regulation and I guess how this market is used is also of interest.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,239

    New: Across Silicon Valley, AI researchers are putting in 80-100 hour workweeks to keep pace with technological progress.

    Several compared it to war, and one executive even joked that the new work schedule is "0-0-2," midnight to midnight with two hours off.

    https://x.com/MeghanBobrowsky/status/1981180203146891416

    And their end-of-year bonus will be to be replaced with the thing they're building?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,499
    Your joking...not another one....

    President Trump pardons Binance founder CZ.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,465

    Your joking...not another one....

    President Trump pardons Binance founder CZ.

    Posted that earlier.
    Completely coincidentally, the Trump family has been doing very well out of crypto recently.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 130,996
    edited October 23

    Bannon comes v close to revealing how they plan to ensure that Trump can run in 2028 for third term in this clip.

    They have a plan, it will be revealed nearer the time he says but it involves contesting the meaning of the wording of the amendment's "terms". So presumably SCOTUS will be asked to rule on things like whether it meant consecutive or what "elected" means.




    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    Steve Bannon: “Well he’s gonna get a third term.

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian/status/1981432900273807392

    Not if Vance has a say in it and not unless he gets his approval rating back to near 50% as he would lose a third term election anyway otherwise
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,183

    Your joking...not another one....

    Meet Copilot Mode in Edge.
    https://x.com/MicrosoftEdge/status/1981390159292629352

    I found copilot gets in my way big-time. Or bigly, as I believe it's said nowadays.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,641



    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian

    BREAKING: Nancy Pelosi says local authorities may arrest federal agents if they break California law, and if they are convicted, President Trump cannot pardon them.

    https://bsky.app/profile/blasphemousjones.bsky.social/post/3m3qynkspi22w
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,499
    edited October 23
    I missed this (but called it ages ago)....even if they don't do it, its clear that they have no original ideas and so its just in the filing cabinet and pulling out all the treasury favs that have been worked on in the past. ID Cards, Pay Per Mile....

    Rachel Reeves 'looking at' pay-per-mile car tax for 1.3 million drivers
    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/motoring/motoring-news/rachel-reeves-looking-at-pay-32717948
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,641
    ohnotnow said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    Meet Copilot Mode in Edge.
    https://x.com/MicrosoftEdge/status/1981390159292629352

    One day, one fine day, someone will make one of these that isn't shockingly bad. But today is not that day.
    I am not sure that is true. The fundamental technology will never match the hype given it's lack of objective truth (AI can never touch grass)
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,183
    Ratters said:

    New: Across Silicon Valley, AI researchers are putting in 80-100 hour workweeks to keep pace with technological progress.

    Several compared it to war, and one executive even joked that the new work schedule is "0-0-2," midnight to midnight with two hours off.

    https://x.com/MeghanBobrowsky/status/1981180203146891416

    Doesn't sound a very efficient workforce.

    Have they tried using AI models to help them?
    I read the other day that these AI things can be massively degraded if they're fed a diet of the average rubbish available on social media. Crucially, the downgrade is permanent and doesn't reverse itself again.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,499
    AnneJGP said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    Meet Copilot Mode in Edge.
    https://x.com/MicrosoftEdge/status/1981390159292629352

    I found copilot gets in my way big-time. Or bigly, as I believe it's said nowadays.
    In the past few days they have updated Claude, now a request to make a simple change results in its whirling away for 5 minutes, writing about 1000 lines of extra code / docs and outputting a total mess.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,089
    edited October 23
    AnneJGP said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    Meet Copilot Mode in Edge.
    https://x.com/MicrosoftEdge/status/1981390159292629352

    I found copilot gets in my way big-time. Or bigly, as I believe it's said nowadays.
    I had to cancel the sort of compulsory but sneaky update in Microsoft 365 to get about a third off the annual sub and no ********* robot emulator telling me what to do.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,089

    I missed this (but called it ages ago)....even if they don't do it, its clear that they have no original ideas and so its just in the filing cabinet and pulling out all the treasury favs that have been worked on in the past. ID Cards, Pay Per Mile....

    Rachel Reeves 'looking at' pay-per-mile car tax for 1.3 million drivers
    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/motoring/motoring-news/rachel-reeves-looking-at-pay-32717948

    TBF there are only so many possibilities. I'm sure that for any one proposal, some Greek philosopher thought of it 2500 years ago.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,641
    So does he not know, or not remember? Did Whiskey Pete not tell him?

    https://x.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1981454534548341183
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,183

    AnneJGP said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    Meet Copilot Mode in Edge.
    https://x.com/MicrosoftEdge/status/1981390159292629352

    I found copilot gets in my way big-time. Or bigly, as I believe it's said nowadays.
    In the past few days they have updated Claude, now a request to make a simple change results in its whirling away for 5 minutes, writing about 1000 lines of extra code / docs and outputting a total mess.
    Sounds as though that's the method Microsoft used to develop Windows 11. Quite a lot of steps backwards from 10.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,295
    What time are we expecting a result?
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,295
    AnneJGP said:

    Ratters said:

    New: Across Silicon Valley, AI researchers are putting in 80-100 hour workweeks to keep pace with technological progress.

    Several compared it to war, and one executive even joked that the new work schedule is "0-0-2," midnight to midnight with two hours off.

    https://x.com/MeghanBobrowsky/status/1981180203146891416

    Doesn't sound a very efficient workforce.

    Have they tried using AI models to help them?
    I read the other day that these AI things can be massively degraded if they're fed a diet of the average rubbish available on social media. Crucially, the downgrade is permanent and doesn't reverse itself again.
    Like all of us :(
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,333
    edited October 23
    ohnotnow said:

    Brian Allen
    @allenanalysis
    Mark Carney just said the quiet part out loud.

    Canada’s decades-long economic reliance on the United States is now a vulnerability; not a strength. The so-called partnership that once fueled growth has turned into a leash.

    Carney’s message wasn’t subtle: America’s instability is now a national risk. Canada needs to insulate itself, trade beyond its shadow, and rebuild a system that doesn’t collapse every time Washington elects chaos.

    For the first time in decades, Ottawa isn’t just hedging, it’s preparing to stand alone.

    https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/1981337482768576591

    That's pretty blunt - especially from a Canadian.
    It's aboot right. Eh?

    :)

    (sophisticated humour! making fun of an accent! viewcode for the win! Pause. Bows head in shame... :( )
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,499
    edited October 23
    Carnyx said:

    I missed this (but called it ages ago)....even if they don't do it, its clear that they have no original ideas and so its just in the filing cabinet and pulling out all the treasury favs that have been worked on in the past. ID Cards, Pay Per Mile....

    Rachel Reeves 'looking at' pay-per-mile car tax for 1.3 million drivers
    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/motoring/motoring-news/rachel-reeves-looking-at-pay-32717948

    TBF there are only so many possibilities. I'm sure that for any one proposal, some Greek philosopher thought of it 2500 years ago.
    ID cards and Pay Per Mile come up as often as Home Office Isn't Fit for Purpose.....its clearly the go to when a minister goes policy, need a policy.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,311
    Eabhal said:

    What time are we expecting a result?

    6th November.

    By which time all the Faithful will have been banished or killed, and Alan Carr will be World King for ever.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,641
    AnneJGP said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    Meet Copilot Mode in Edge.
    https://x.com/MicrosoftEdge/status/1981390159292629352

    I found copilot gets in my way big-time. Or bigly, as I believe it's said nowadays.
    In the past few days they have updated Claude, now a request to make a simple change results in its whirling away for 5 minutes, writing about 1000 lines of extra code / docs and outputting a total mess.
    Sounds as though that's the method Microsoft used to develop Windows 11. Quite a lot of steps backwards from 10.
    The big upgrade last week, 25H2, had to be patched less than a week later
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,641
    @joshgerstein.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING: New suit seeks TRO blocking Trump's White House ballroom project and further destruction of East Wing.

    https://bsky.app/profile/joshgerstein.bsky.social/post/3m3v4mym45k2i
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,239
    Scott_xP said:

    @joshgerstein.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING: New suit seeks TRO blocking Trump's White House ballroom project and further destruction of East Wing.

    https://bsky.app/profile/joshgerstein.bsky.social/post/3m3v4mym45k2i

    Not a bit late for avoiding destruction of the East Wing?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,499
    Eabhal said:

    What time are we expecting a result?

    Have we had reporting of voting being brisk?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,475
    Reality Check, The Spectator’s new data-driven show hosted by economics editor Michael Simmons, kicks off with a big name: Arthur Laffer. The man who taught Reagan to cut taxes tells Michael why Britain’s economy is 'disappearing', why the Bank of England shouldn’t exist, and why he still believes low taxes – and a little optimism – can send Britain 'to the moon and the stars.'
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi0YHJxQsiI
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,712

    Reality Check, The Spectator’s new data-driven show hosted by economics editor Michael Simmons, kicks off with a big name: Arthur Laffer. The man who taught Reagan to cut taxes tells Michael why Britain’s economy is 'disappearing', why the Bank of England shouldn’t exist, and why he still believes low taxes – and a little optimism – can send Britain 'to the moon and the stars.'
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi0YHJxQsiI

    85 years old, and still making more sense than most.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 28,406



    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian

    BREAKING: Nancy Pelosi says local authorities may arrest federal agents if they break California law, and if they are convicted, President Trump cannot pardon them.

    So what.

    California ignores federal laws so why shouldn't the federal government ignore California's laws ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city#California

    Either all sides start accepting that you have to uphold laws even if you don't like them or the USA heads to another 'states rights' dispute with the federal government.
    Do you know enough about the American legal system to know if California is required to collaborate with federal officials?
    I don't but it doesn't matter.

    What we have are various people on each side of pretty much every issue who are so high on their self-righteousness that they think their perfectly entitled to ignore anything they don't like.

    What Trump brings is the combination of open malignant narcissism and senile ignorance that makes it impossible to pretend that the system is working.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,499
    edited October 23

    Scott_xP said:

    @joshgerstein.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING: New suit seeks TRO blocking Trump's White House ballroom project and further destruction of East Wing.

    https://bsky.app/profile/joshgerstein.bsky.social/post/3m3v4mym45k2i

    Not a bit late for avoiding destruction of the East Wing?
    That reminds me. You know that story about the wonky pub that went up in smoke and the bulldozers were knocking down what was left while smoke was still rising, politicians were all over it, that the owners would have to rebuild it exactly as it was. Wonder were we are with that?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,465
    Eabhal said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Ratters said:

    New: Across Silicon Valley, AI researchers are putting in 80-100 hour workweeks to keep pace with technological progress.

    Several compared it to war, and one executive even joked that the new work schedule is "0-0-2," midnight to midnight with two hours off.

    https://x.com/MeghanBobrowsky/status/1981180203146891416

    Doesn't sound a very efficient workforce.

    Have they tried using AI models to help them?
    I read the other day that these AI things can be massively degraded if they're fed a diet of the average rubbish available on social media. Crucially, the downgrade is permanent and doesn't reverse itself again.
    Like all of us :(
    Meta just laid off 600 AI employees (not the recent multi million $ next generation project hires).
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,499
    edited October 23
    Nigelb said:

    Eabhal said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Ratters said:

    New: Across Silicon Valley, AI researchers are putting in 80-100 hour workweeks to keep pace with technological progress.

    Several compared it to war, and one executive even joked that the new work schedule is "0-0-2," midnight to midnight with two hours off.

    https://x.com/MeghanBobrowsky/status/1981180203146891416

    Doesn't sound a very efficient workforce.

    Have they tried using AI models to help them?
    I read the other day that these AI things can be massively degraded if they're fed a diet of the average rubbish available on social media. Crucially, the downgrade is permanent and doesn't reverse itself again.
    Like all of us :(
    Meta just laid off 600 AI employees (not the recent multi million $ next generation project hires).
    What is most surprising about that is unlike previous rounds of lays where there were a lot of non-jobs getting boot and low / mid level devs, and the "famous" talent in teams were mostly moved elsewhere. Some of the people who got the boot yesterday are top top tier academic researchers, they probably already had 20 job offers so they aren't going to struggle, but more that Meta are willing to lose that level of talent. People with 10-15k citations of their academic papers on AI and not 20 years ago.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 28,406



    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian

    BREAKING: Nancy Pelosi says local authorities may arrest federal agents if they break California law, and if they are convicted, President Trump cannot pardon them.

    So what.

    California ignores federal laws so why shouldn't the federal government ignore California's laws ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city#California

    Either all sides start accepting that you have to uphold laws even if you don't like them or the USA heads to another 'states rights' dispute with the federal government.
    Do you know enough about the American legal system to know if California is required to collaborate with federal officials?
    I don't but it doesn't matter.

    What we have are various people on each side of pretty much every issue who are so high on their self-righteousness that they think their perfectly entitled to ignore anything they don't like.

    What Trump brings is the combination of open malignant narcissism and senile ignorance that makes it impossible to pretend that the system is working.
    I wonder if the US system of governance required broad based parties to function properly.

    The Dems were traditionally centre-left but had a populist wing in the Plains and Rockies states plus a KKK wing in the old confederate states.

    While the GOP was traditionally centre-right but had a liberal wing in the north-eastern states plus a southern unionist wing in the Appalachian states.

    Now we increasingly have left wing Dems, dragged further left by their primary process, and a right wing GOP, dragged further right by their primary process.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 6,895
    edited October 23

    Eabhal said:

    What time are we expecting a result?

    Have we had reporting of voting being brisk?
    Earlier it was described as sionc, but later it was cyson .
  • MightyAlexMightyAlex Posts: 1,818

    Carnyx said:

    I missed this (but called it ages ago)....even if they don't do it, its clear that they have no original ideas and so its just in the filing cabinet and pulling out all the treasury favs that have been worked on in the past. ID Cards, Pay Per Mile....

    Rachel Reeves 'looking at' pay-per-mile car tax for 1.3 million drivers
    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/motoring/motoring-news/rachel-reeves-looking-at-pay-32717948

    TBF there are only so many possibilities. I'm sure that for any one proposal, some Greek philosopher thought of it 2500 years ago.
    ID cards and Pay Per Mile come up as often as Home Office Isn't Fit for Purpose.....its clearly the go to when a minister goes policy, need a policy.
    They have to find some way of measuring road usage by proxy. What is the alternative to pay per mile?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,089

    Scott_xP said:

    @joshgerstein.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING: New suit seeks TRO blocking Trump's White House ballroom project and further destruction of East Wing.

    https://bsky.app/profile/joshgerstein.bsky.social/post/3m3v4mym45k2i

    Not a bit late for avoiding destruction of the East Wing?
    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2025/oct/23/trump-white-house-ballroom-architecture-critic-dictator-bling

    IANAE on the ins and outs of modern architecture but simply hadn't realised the size of the proposed thing.
  • Carnyx said:

    I missed this (but called it ages ago)....even if they don't do it, its clear that they have no original ideas and so its just in the filing cabinet and pulling out all the treasury favs that have been worked on in the past. ID Cards, Pay Per Mile....

    Rachel Reeves 'looking at' pay-per-mile car tax for 1.3 million drivers
    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/motoring/motoring-news/rachel-reeves-looking-at-pay-32717948

    TBF there are only so many possibilities. I'm sure that for any one proposal, some Greek philosopher thought of it 2500 years ago.
    ID cards and Pay Per Mile come up as often as Home Office Isn't Fit for Purpose.....its clearly the go to when a minister goes policy, need a policy.
    They have to find some way of measuring road usage by proxy. What is the alternative to pay per mile?
    Don't tax transportation?

    Considering most other transportation operates on massive subsidies, simply not taxing it seems reasonable.
  • AnneJGP said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    Meet Copilot Mode in Edge.
    https://x.com/MicrosoftEdge/status/1981390159292629352

    I found copilot gets in my way big-time. Or bigly, as I believe it's said nowadays.
    The other day I asked Google a question about Pope Leo. Gemini informed me that there was no Pope Leo and in fact the Pope was still Francis.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,641
    Hegseth doesn't dispute the existence of a memo planning for the establishment of a "National Guard response force that's gonna be trained in crowd control and civil unrest and deployed in all 50 states by April 2026."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m3v7ml4i7s2g
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,295
    Road mileage tax is rubbish idea. Punishes rural communities while incentivising the kind of short journey that clog up our cities and can be walked/cycled instead.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,465



    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian

    BREAKING: Nancy Pelosi says local authorities may arrest federal agents if they break California law, and if they are convicted, President Trump cannot pardon them.

    So what.

    California ignores federal laws so why shouldn't the federal government ignore California's laws ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city#California

    Either all sides start accepting that you have to uphold laws even if you don't like them or the USA heads to another 'states rights' dispute with the federal government.
    Do you know enough about the American legal system to know if California is required to collaborate with federal officials?
    I don't but it doesn't matter.

    What we have are various people on each side of pretty much every issue who are so high on their self-righteousness that they think their perfectly entitled to ignore anything they don't like.

    What Trump brings is the combination of open malignant narcissism and senile ignorance that makes it impossible to pretend that the system is working.
    I wonder if the US system of governance required broad based parties to function properly.

    The Dems were traditionally centre-left but had a populist wing in the Plains and Rockies states plus a KKK wing in the old confederate states.

    While the GOP was traditionally centre-right but had a liberal wing in the north-eastern states plus a southern unionist wing in the Appalachian states.

    Now we increasingly have left wing Dems, dragged further left by their primary process, and a right wing GOP, dragged further right by their primary process.
    Are the Dems particularly left wing ?
    They still appear a fairly broad church to me.

    I don't really buy this both sidesism.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 11,443
    HYUFD said:

    Reform voters lead amongst those thinking they are going to heaven and hell. LDs and Greens think they are clearly going to hell, Tory and Labour voters to heaven, interesting.

    Voters at all incomes think they are mainly going to heaven, albeit middle income earners less sure. For Christians it is love of money not hard earned money and savings that is the problem, as long as you support charities, pay your taxes and help the poor even the rich can get to heaven

    Supporting charities, paying your taxes and helping the poor is what the Pharisees used to do. For they were virtuous men, all virtuous men.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 6,895

    Scott_xP said:

    @joshgerstein.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING: New suit seeks TRO blocking Trump's White House ballroom project and further destruction of East Wing.

    https://bsky.app/profile/joshgerstein.bsky.social/post/3m3v4mym45k2i

    Not a bit late for avoiding destruction of the East Wing?
    That reminds me. You know that story about the wonky pub that went up in smoke and the bulldozers were knocking down what was left while smoke was still rising, politicians were all over it, that the owners would have to rebuild it exactly as it was. Wonder were we are with that?
    Still with the lawyers, I understand, specifically the CPS deciding whether there are any criminal charges to be made.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 53,716
    AnneJGP said:

    Ratters said:

    New: Across Silicon Valley, AI researchers are putting in 80-100 hour workweeks to keep pace with technological progress.

    Several compared it to war, and one executive even joked that the new work schedule is "0-0-2," midnight to midnight with two hours off.

    https://x.com/MeghanBobrowsky/status/1981180203146891416

    Doesn't sound a very efficient workforce.

    Have they tried using AI models to help them?
    I read the other day that these AI things can be massively degraded if they're fed a diet of the average rubbish available on social media. Crucially, the downgrade is permanent and doesn't reverse itself again.
    Human beings say "hold my beer" and win the race to the bottom...
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 6,895
    Eabhal said:

    Road mileage tax is rubbish idea. Punishes rural communities while incentivising the kind of short journey that clog up our cities and can be walked/cycled instead.

    The only way would be to have differing rates for urban, suburban and rural areas. The infrastructure to set it up would be expensive.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 20,850
    Eabhal said:

    Road mileage tax is rubbish idea. Punishes rural communities while incentivising the kind of short journey that clog up our cities and can be walked/cycled instead.

    There already is a mileage tax on, at least on petrol or diesel. And electricity is also taxed.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,465
    Should be given a medal.

    A man was arrested for playing Darth Vader's theme music, "The Imperial March," behind National Guard troops walking through Logan Circle.

    Now the ACLU is suing on his behalf.

    https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1981399702898954647
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,641
    @HackBlackburn

    “The Traitors demonstrates the weaknesses of First Past the Post and how the electorate would benefit from the Alternative Vote. In this paper, I will…”

    https://x.com/HackBlackburn/status/1981327488971137373
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,295

    Eabhal said:

    Road mileage tax is rubbish idea. Punishes rural communities while incentivising the kind of short journey that clog up our cities and can be walked/cycled instead.

    There already is a mileage tax on, at least on petrol or diesel. And electricity is also taxed.
    Exactly. If you're going to do it, just ping up fuel duty. Electricity is impossible though because we don't have separate metres.

    Tbh I'd just introduce congestion charging and bin fuel duty. There are enough cameras already to catch any journey in an urban area. And replace VED with a weight tax.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,183

    AnneJGP said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    Meet Copilot Mode in Edge.
    https://x.com/MicrosoftEdge/status/1981390159292629352

    I found copilot gets in my way big-time. Or bigly, as I believe it's said nowadays.
    The other day I asked Google a question about Pope Leo. Gemini informed me that there was no Pope Leo and in fact the Pope was still Francis.
    I noticed recently that the AI overview when I search on my phone now says underneath it this may contain errors. At least there's a warning.
  • Eabhal said:

    Road mileage tax is rubbish idea. Punishes rural communities while incentivising the kind of short journey that clog up our cities and can be walked/cycled instead.

    There already is a mileage tax on, at least on petrol or diesel. And electricity is also taxed.
    Tax on petrol and diesel isn't really a mileage tax, the gap between fuel consumption of various vehicles is far too wide for that. If one vehicle does 20mpg and another does 120, a fuel tax ends up not having much to do with distance travelled.
  • Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    Road mileage tax is rubbish idea. Punishes rural communities while incentivising the kind of short journey that clog up our cities and can be walked/cycled instead.

    There already is a mileage tax on, at least on petrol or diesel. And electricity is also taxed.
    Exactly. If you're going to do it, just ping up fuel duty. Electricity is impossible though because we don't have separate metres.

    Tbh I'd just introduce congestion charging and bin fuel duty. There are enough cameras already to catch any journey in an urban area. And replace VED with a weight tax.
    What does a bin need fuel for?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 20,850

    Eabhal said:

    Road mileage tax is rubbish idea. Punishes rural communities while incentivising the kind of short journey that clog up our cities and can be walked/cycled instead.

    There already is a mileage tax on, at least on petrol or diesel. And electricity is also taxed.
    Tax on petrol and diesel isn't really a mileage tax, the gap between fuel consumption of various vehicles is far too wide for that. If one vehicle does 20mpg and another does 120, a fuel tax ends up not having much to do with distance travelled.
    Yes but it favours vehicles that are more economic, which is a good thing.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,543
    Scott_xP said:

    Hegseth doesn't dispute the existence of a memo planning for the establishment of a "National Guard response force that's gonna be trained in crowd control and civil unrest and deployed in all 50 states by April 2026."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m3v7ml4i7s2g

    By mid-2026? How incredibly convenient given mid-terms.

  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,239
    AnneJGP said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    Meet Copilot Mode in Edge.
    https://x.com/MicrosoftEdge/status/1981390159292629352

    I found copilot gets in my way big-time. Or bigly, as I believe it's said nowadays.
    The other day I asked Google a question about Pope Leo. Gemini informed me that there was no Pope Leo and in fact the Pope was still Francis.
    I noticed recently that the AI overview when I search on my phone now says underneath it this may contain errors. At least there's a warning.
    They're missing a trick by not saying "this mey contane erurs"
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,215
    People are continuing to sign the anti-ID cards petition in significant numbers.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,499
    edited October 23
    Andy_JS said:

    People are continuing to sign the anti-ID cards petition in significant numbers.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194

    3 million people need sending for re-education....
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,465
    Nigelb said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    President Trump pardons Binance founder CZ.

    Posted that earlier.
    Completely coincidentally, the Trump family has been doing very well out of crypto recently.
    Clearly gave it a lot of thought.

    COLLINS: Today you pardoned the founded of Binance. Can you explain why you did that?

    TRUMP: Which one was that?

    COLLINS: The founder of Binance

    TRUMP: I believe we're talking about the same person, because I do pardon a lot of people. I don't know. He was recommended by a lot of people.

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1981455304060534903
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,499
    edited October 23
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    President Trump pardons Binance founder CZ.

    Posted that earlier.
    Completely coincidentally, the Trump family has been doing very well out of crypto recently.
    Clearly gave it a lot of thought.

    COLLINS: Today you pardoned the founded of Binance. Can you explain why you did that?

    TRUMP: Which one was that?

    COLLINS: The founder of Binance

    TRUMP: I believe we're talking about the same person, because I do pardon a lot of people. I don't know. He was recommended by a lot of people.

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1981455304060534903
    I really hate how that guy twists / takes what Trump says out of context far too often. That part is actually he doesn't really hear what the reporter is saying. That whole thing is obvious still stinks, but there isn't any need to twist the first part. The rest of the video is damning enough. He could have picked out a later part to quote.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,712
    edited October 23

    Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    Road mileage tax is rubbish idea. Punishes rural communities while incentivising the kind of short journey that clog up our cities and can be walked/cycled instead.

    There already is a mileage tax on, at least on petrol or diesel. And electricity is also taxed.
    Exactly. If you're going to do it, just ping up fuel duty. Electricity is impossible though because we don't have separate metres.

    Tbh I'd just introduce congestion charging and bin fuel duty. There are enough cameras already to catch any journey in an urban area. And replace VED with a weight tax.
    What does a bin need fuel for?
    The forthcoming dumpster fire?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,499
    A former Russian general who has been sanctioned by the USA and UK has been invited back into the rule-making structure of motorsport's governing body, the FIA.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/c5y06pvnzqyo
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 62,073

    Eabhal said:

    Road mileage tax is rubbish idea. Punishes rural communities while incentivising the kind of short journey that clog up our cities and can be walked/cycled instead.

    The only way would be to have differing rates for urban, suburban and rural areas. The infrastructure to set it up would be expensive.
    Not really.

    First, assume we all have ID cards...
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,712
    edited October 23
    Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    Road mileage tax is rubbish idea. Punishes rural communities while incentivising the kind of short journey that clog up our cities and can be walked/cycled instead.

    There already is a mileage tax on, at least on petrol or diesel. And electricity is also taxed.
    Exactly. If you're going to do it, just ping up fuel duty. Electricity is impossible though because we don't have separate metres.

    Tbh I'd just introduce congestion charging and bin fuel duty. There are enough cameras already to catch any journey in an urban area. And replace VED with a weight tax.
    The solution is to road tax EVs based on kerb weight.

    Which at least has the advantage of being highly proportional to road wear.

    A little electric city car pays almost nothing, but an electric 3,000kg BMW iX pays several hundred.

    AIUI the cloned number plate problem is already out of control, if widespread ANPR is to be introduced then there will need to be a closed system of number plate issuance.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,499
    edited October 23
    Sandpit said:

    Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    Road mileage tax is rubbish idea. Punishes rural communities while incentivising the kind of short journey that clog up our cities and can be walked/cycled instead.

    There already is a mileage tax on, at least on petrol or diesel. And electricity is also taxed.
    Exactly. If you're going to do it, just ping up fuel duty. Electricity is impossible though because we don't have separate metres.

    Tbh I'd just introduce congestion charging and bin fuel duty. There are enough cameras already to catch any journey in an urban area. And replace VED with a weight tax.
    The solution is to road tax EVs based on kerb weight.

    Which at least has the advantage of being highly proportional to road wear.

    A little electric city car pays almost nothing, but an electric 3,000kg BMW iX pays several hundred.
    One tax rise that Reeves introduced in the last budget I don't think a lot out people have noticed is how wide ranging luxury car tax is now, particularly with "fiscal drag" of how much new cars have gone up in price.

    £40,000 will pay an additional £425 per year in Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) for the second to sixth year after registration, regardless of fuel type.

    £40k isn't really "luxury" these days. A Kia Sportage and Nissan Qashqai with the extras can cost that. And that's over £2000 extra in tax even if you buy yourself an EV.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 62,073
    Sandpit said:

    Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    Road mileage tax is rubbish idea. Punishes rural communities while incentivising the kind of short journey that clog up our cities and can be walked/cycled instead.

    There already is a mileage tax on, at least on petrol or diesel. And electricity is also taxed.
    Exactly. If you're going to do it, just ping up fuel duty. Electricity is impossible though because we don't have separate metres.

    Tbh I'd just introduce congestion charging and bin fuel duty. There are enough cameras already to catch any journey in an urban area. And replace VED with a weight tax.
    The solution is to road tax EVs based on kerb weight.

    Which at least has the advantage of being highly proportional to road wear.

    A little electric city car pays almost nothing, but an electric 3,000kg BMW iX pays several hundred.
    Exactly: my (beloved) Fiat 500E should pay a fraction of my (also beloved) Rivian pickup truck.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 28,406
    Nigelb said:



    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian

    BREAKING: Nancy Pelosi says local authorities may arrest federal agents if they break California law, and if they are convicted, President Trump cannot pardon them.

    So what.

    California ignores federal laws so why shouldn't the federal government ignore California's laws ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city#California

    Either all sides start accepting that you have to uphold laws even if you don't like them or the USA heads to another 'states rights' dispute with the federal government.
    Do you know enough about the American legal system to know if California is required to collaborate with federal officials?
    I don't but it doesn't matter.

    What we have are various people on each side of pretty much every issue who are so high on their self-righteousness that they think their perfectly entitled to ignore anything they don't like.

    What Trump brings is the combination of open malignant narcissism and senile ignorance that makes it impossible to pretend that the system is working.
    I wonder if the US system of governance required broad based parties to function properly.

    The Dems were traditionally centre-left but had a populist wing in the Plains and Rockies states plus a KKK wing in the old confederate states.

    While the GOP was traditionally centre-right but had a liberal wing in the north-eastern states plus a southern unionist wing in the Appalachian states.

    Now we increasingly have left wing Dems, dragged further left by their primary process, and a right wing GOP, dragged further right by their primary process.
    Are the Dems particularly left wing ?
    They still appear a fairly broad church to me.

    I don't really buy this both sidesism.
    These people disagreed with you:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrsten_Sinema
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Manchin
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Lieberman
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Nighthorse_Campbell
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Shelby

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Van_Drew

    And a lot of southern Dems in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_politicians_who_switched_parties_in_office

    Go back fifty years and you could find some of the most right wing politicians in the Dems and some of the most left wing politicians in the GOP.

  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,641
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    President Trump pardons Binance founder CZ.

    Posted that earlier.
    Completely coincidentally, the Trump family has been doing very well out of crypto recently.
    Clearly gave it a lot of thought.

    COLLINS: Today you pardoned the founded of Binance. Can you explain why you did that?

    TRUMP: Which one was that?

    COLLINS: The founder of Binance

    TRUMP: I believe we're talking about the same person, because I do pardon a lot of people. I don't know. He was recommended by a lot of people.

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1981455304060534903
    Who is actually exercising the power of the President, cos it's not this senile moron?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 130,996
    edited October 23
    Nigelb said:



    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian

    BREAKING: Nancy Pelosi says local authorities may arrest federal agents if they break California law, and if they are convicted, President Trump cannot pardon them.

    So what.

    California ignores federal laws so why shouldn't the federal government ignore California's laws ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city#California

    Either all sides start accepting that you have to uphold laws even if you don't like them or the USA heads to another 'states rights' dispute with the federal government.
    Do you know enough about the American legal system to know if California is required to collaborate with federal officials?
    I don't but it doesn't matter.

    What we have are various people on each side of pretty much every issue who are so high on their self-righteousness that they think their perfectly entitled to ignore anything they don't like.

    What Trump brings is the combination of open malignant narcissism and senile ignorance that makes it impossible to pretend that the system is working.
    I wonder if the US system of governance required broad based parties to function properly.

    The Dems were traditionally centre-left but had a populist wing in the Plains and Rockies states plus a KKK wing in the old confederate states.

    While the GOP was traditionally centre-right but had a liberal wing in the north-eastern states plus a southern unionist wing in the Appalachian states.

    Now we increasingly have left wing Dems, dragged further left by their primary process, and a right wing GOP, dragged further right by their primary process.
    Are the Dems particularly left wing ?
    They still appear a fairly broad church to me.

    I don't really buy this both sidesism.
    Mamdani is, he is basically a Corbynite/Polanskiite in UK terms and if he wins the New York city Mayoralty next month as polls predict will run the biggest city in the USA
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,712
    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:



    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian

    BREAKING: Nancy Pelosi says local authorities may arrest federal agents if they break California law, and if they are convicted, President Trump cannot pardon them.

    So what.

    California ignores federal laws so why shouldn't the federal government ignore California's laws ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city#California

    Either all sides start accepting that you have to uphold laws even if you don't like them or the USA heads to another 'states rights' dispute with the federal government.
    Do you know enough about the American legal system to know if California is required to collaborate with federal officials?
    I don't but it doesn't matter.

    What we have are various people on each side of pretty much every issue who are so high on their self-righteousness that they think their perfectly entitled to ignore anything they don't like.

    What Trump brings is the combination of open malignant narcissism and senile ignorance that makes it impossible to pretend that the system is working.
    I wonder if the US system of governance required broad based parties to function properly.

    The Dems were traditionally centre-left but had a populist wing in the Plains and Rockies states plus a KKK wing in the old confederate states.

    While the GOP was traditionally centre-right but had a liberal wing in the north-eastern states plus a southern unionist wing in the Appalachian states.

    Now we increasingly have left wing Dems, dragged further left by their primary process, and a right wing GOP, dragged further right by their primary process.
    Are the Dems particularly left wing ?
    They still appear a fairly broad church to me.

    I don't really buy this both sidesism.
    Mamdani is, he is basically a Corbynite/Polanskiite in UK terms and if he wins the New York city Mayoralty next month as polls predict will run the biggest city in the USA
    The GOP will be laughing their heads off ahead of the midterms, if Mamdani gets elected in NY.

    He’s a proper communist, and everyone in NY and not in NY will be able to see what that looks like in practice.

    It’s been a while, many have forgotten.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,333

    Eabhal said:

    What time are we expecting a result?

    6th November.

    By which time all the Faithful will have been banished or killed, and Alan Carr will be World King for ever.
    It's a pity Gok Wan isn't on it. Then he could be Wan King for ever.

    😀
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,543
    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    President Trump pardons Binance founder CZ.

    Posted that earlier.
    Completely coincidentally, the Trump family has been doing very well out of crypto recently.
    Clearly gave it a lot of thought.

    COLLINS: Today you pardoned the founded of Binance. Can you explain why you did that?

    TRUMP: Which one was that?

    COLLINS: The founder of Binance

    TRUMP: I believe we're talking about the same person, because I do pardon a lot of people. I don't know. He was recommended by a lot of people.

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1981455304060534903
    Who is actually exercising the power of the President, cos it's not this senile moron?
    "I do pardon a lot of people."

    Yeh, we know.

    When this is all over in a few years time, probably after the 2nd civil war, sorting out the Presidential pardon power will need to be a priority for the reconstruction.

  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 35,327
    Nobody's Girl: The Kim Iversen Show joins (some of the) the dots.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,333
    Sandpit said:

    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:



    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian

    BREAKING: Nancy Pelosi says local authorities may arrest federal agents if they break California law, and if they are convicted, President Trump cannot pardon them.

    So what.

    California ignores federal laws so why shouldn't the federal government ignore California's laws ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city#California

    Either all sides start accepting that you have to uphold laws even if you don't like them or the USA heads to another 'states rights' dispute with the federal government.
    Do you know enough about the American legal system to know if California is required to collaborate with federal officials?
    I don't but it doesn't matter.

    What we have are various people on each side of pretty much every issue who are so high on their self-righteousness that they think their perfectly entitled to ignore anything they don't like.

    What Trump brings is the combination of open malignant narcissism and senile ignorance that makes it impossible to pretend that the system is working.
    I wonder if the US system of governance required broad based parties to function properly.

    The Dems were traditionally centre-left but had a populist wing in the Plains and Rockies states plus a KKK wing in the old confederate states.

    While the GOP was traditionally centre-right but had a liberal wing in the north-eastern states plus a southern unionist wing in the Appalachian states.

    Now we increasingly have left wing Dems, dragged further left by their primary process, and a right wing GOP, dragged further right by their primary process.
    Are the Dems particularly left wing ?
    They still appear a fairly broad church to me.

    I don't really buy this both sidesism.
    Mamdani is, he is basically a Corbynite/Polanskiite in UK terms and if he wins the New York city Mayoralty next month as polls predict will run the biggest city in the USA
    The GOP will be laughing their heads off ahead of the midterms, if Mamdani gets elected in NY.

    He’s a proper communist, and everyone in NY and not in NY will be able to see what that looks like in practice.

    It’s been a while, many have forgotten.
    He's not a communist, he's a Democratic Socialist, just like David Dinkins (the one before Giuliani) was. The basics of capitalism will remain in place.

    I am constantly depressed by how serious-minded people call their opponents "fascist" or "communist" like they were confetti. We have forgotten shades of gray. :(
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 130,996
    edited October 23
    Sandpit said:

    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:



    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian

    BREAKING: Nancy Pelosi says local authorities may arrest federal agents if they break California law, and if they are convicted, President Trump cannot pardon them.

    So what.

    California ignores federal laws so why shouldn't the federal government ignore California's laws ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city#California

    Either all sides start accepting that you have to uphold laws even if you don't like them or the USA heads to another 'states rights' dispute with the federal government.
    Do you know enough about the American legal system to know if California is required to collaborate with federal officials?
    I don't but it doesn't matter.

    What we have are various people on each side of pretty much every issue who are so high on their self-righteousness that they think their perfectly entitled to ignore anything they don't like.

    What Trump brings is the combination of open malignant narcissism and senile ignorance that makes it impossible to pretend that the system is working.
    I wonder if the US system of governance required broad based parties to function properly.

    The Dems were traditionally centre-left but had a populist wing in the Plains and Rockies states plus a KKK wing in the old confederate states.

    While the GOP was traditionally centre-right but had a liberal wing in the north-eastern states plus a southern unionist wing in the Appalachian states.

    Now we increasingly have left wing Dems, dragged further left by their primary process, and a right wing GOP, dragged further right by their primary process.
    Are the Dems particularly left wing ?
    They still appear a fairly broad church to me.

    I don't really buy this both sidesism.
    Mamdani is, he is basically a Corbynite/Polanskiite in UK terms and if he wins the New York city Mayoralty next month as polls predict will run the biggest city in the USA
    The GOP will be laughing their heads off ahead of the midterms, if Mamdani gets elected in NY.

    He’s a proper communist, and everyone in NY and not in NY will be able to see what that looks like in practice.

    It’s been a while, many have forgotten.
    Perhaps but they would be foolish to do so. Unless Trump gets his approval rating above its current 39% then more leftist Democrats like Mamdani are likely to be elected in the midterms next year and it is not impossible a leftist could even win the White House in 2028.

    Remember how the Tories couldn't believe their luck in 2015 when Corbyn was elected Labour leader? They weren't cheering in 2017 when they lost their majority to him. Khan is also pretty leftist but has been elected Labour Mayor of London 3 times.

    In France too Melenchon's leftist block won most seats in the legislative elections last year.

    Voters are swinging away from the centre on both fronts, not just to the nationalist right like Trump, Farage and Le Pen but also to leftists.

    The centre won't always hold and sometimes either one of them can win
    https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,641
    glw said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    Meet Copilot Mode in Edge.
    https://x.com/MicrosoftEdge/status/1981390159292629352

    I found copilot gets in my way big-time. Or bigly, as I believe it's said nowadays.
    The other day I asked Google a question about Pope Leo. Gemini informed me that there was no Pope Leo and in fact the Pope was still Francis.
    Now admittedly I do make some very niche and nerdy queries when using Google, but even so it's amazing how frequently the AI summary is wrong. And if it's wrong about the sort of things I know about I assume it has similar levels of error with things I don't know. i.e. It's practically useless.

    Hundreds of billions of dollars invested, driving up the price of electricity, diverting the computer industry away from a whole load of other problems that need work, and for what? Making up nonsense. Social media already produces a more than adequate supply of nonsense, we didn't need to get computers in on the act.
    My colleague asked CoPilot to draw an Azure diagram, which was wrong. He then asked for additional detail, which was spectacularly wrong in some really creative and imaginative ways. Entertaining, but worthless, and expensive.
  • Eabhal said:

    Road mileage tax is rubbish idea. Punishes rural communities while incentivising the kind of short journey that clog up our cities and can be walked/cycled instead.

    There already is a mileage tax on, at least on petrol or diesel. And electricity is also taxed.
    Tax on petrol and diesel isn't really a mileage tax, the gap between fuel consumption of various vehicles is far too wide for that. If one vehicle does 20mpg and another does 120, a fuel tax ends up not having much to do with distance travelled.
    Yes but it favours vehicles that are more economic, which is a good thing.
    So does VED to an extent, but not many people are dumping their Range Rover for a Toyota Aygo. Tax alone will not, and has not encouraged the uptake of fuel efficient vehicles.

    To do that the government needs to make it painful to own a wank panzer to the extent that you just can't throw money at it to make the pain go away. Doing that would entail a mix of tax, a reform of the licencing system and use restrictions on large vehicles.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,559
    Scott_xP said:

    glw said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    Meet Copilot Mode in Edge.
    https://x.com/MicrosoftEdge/status/1981390159292629352

    I found copilot gets in my way big-time. Or bigly, as I believe it's said nowadays.
    The other day I asked Google a question about Pope Leo. Gemini informed me that there was no Pope Leo and in fact the Pope was still Francis.
    Now admittedly I do make some very niche and nerdy queries when using Google, but even so it's amazing how frequently the AI summary is wrong. And if it's wrong about the sort of things I know about I assume it has similar levels of error with things I don't know. i.e. It's practically useless.

    Hundreds of billions of dollars invested, driving up the price of electricity, diverting the computer industry away from a whole load of other problems that need work, and for what? Making up nonsense. Social media already produces a more than adequate supply of nonsense, we didn't need to get computers in on the act.
    My colleague asked CoPilot to draw an Azure diagram, which was wrong. He then asked for additional detail, which was spectacularly wrong in some really creative and imaginative ways. Entertaining, but worthless, and expensive.
    It's not that I object to the idea in principal, and I do broadly understand how it all works, but I'm amazed that it's considered good enough to put into production. The really scary thing is that there are already loads of people heavily using such tools and treating the results as gospel.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,215
    Who would have thought that potus was a fan of ballroom dancing.
  • eekeek Posts: 31,602

    Eabhal said:

    Road mileage tax is rubbish idea. Punishes rural communities while incentivising the kind of short journey that clog up our cities and can be walked/cycled instead.

    There already is a mileage tax on, at least on petrol or diesel. And electricity is also taxed.
    Tax on petrol and diesel isn't really a mileage tax, the gap between fuel consumption of various vehicles is far too wide for that. If one vehicle does 20mpg and another does 120, a fuel tax ends up not having much to do with distance travelled.
    Yes but it favours vehicles that are more economic, which is a good thing.
    So does VED to an extent, but not many people are dumping their Range Rover for a Toyota Aygo. Tax alone will not, and has not encouraged the uptake of fuel efficient vehicles.

    To do that the government needs to make it painful to own a wank panzer to the extent that you just can't throw money at it to make the pain go away. Doing that would entail a mix of tax, a reform of the licencing system and use restrictions on large vehicles.
    So basically see Paris where large SUVs cost €18 minimum an hour to park..
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,295
    edited October 23
    Sandpit said:

    Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    Road mileage tax is rubbish idea. Punishes rural communities while incentivising the kind of short journey that clog up our cities and can be walked/cycled instead.

    There already is a mileage tax on, at least on petrol or diesel. And electricity is also taxed.
    Exactly. If you're going to do it, just ping up fuel duty. Electricity is impossible though because we don't have separate metres.

    Tbh I'd just introduce congestion charging and bin fuel duty. There are enough cameras already to catch any journey in an urban area. And replace VED with a weight tax.
    The solution is to road tax EVs based on kerb weight.

    Which at least has the advantage of being highly proportional to road wear.

    A little electric city car pays almost nothing, but an electric 3,000kg BMW iX pays several hundred.

    AIUI the cloned number plate problem is already out of control, if widespread ANPR is to be introduced then there will need to be a closed system of number plate issuance.
    Yep - needs more enforcement (or chips like you get at running/cycling events?). On kerb weight, the fourth power law does get a bit extreme so you'd be brave to introduce it based on that.

    The infrastructure argument for zonal pricing doesn't really wash imo. We already have ULEZ in our cities, technology already exists. If we binned fuel duty at the same time I think most people would find that quite acceptable.

    My other pet policy is the banger bonus - no VAT on parts and repairs for cars 12+ years old.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,712
    viewcode said:

    Sandpit said:

    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:



    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian

    BREAKING: Nancy Pelosi says local authorities may arrest federal agents if they break California law, and if they are convicted, President Trump cannot pardon them.

    So what.

    California ignores federal laws so why shouldn't the federal government ignore California's laws ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city#California

    Either all sides start accepting that you have to uphold laws even if you don't like them or the USA heads to another 'states rights' dispute with the federal government.
    Do you know enough about the American legal system to know if California is required to collaborate with federal officials?
    I don't but it doesn't matter.

    What we have are various people on each side of pretty much every issue who are so high on their self-righteousness that they think their perfectly entitled to ignore anything they don't like.

    What Trump brings is the combination of open malignant narcissism and senile ignorance that makes it impossible to pretend that the system is working.
    I wonder if the US system of governance required broad based parties to function properly.

    The Dems were traditionally centre-left but had a populist wing in the Plains and Rockies states plus a KKK wing in the old confederate states.

    While the GOP was traditionally centre-right but had a liberal wing in the north-eastern states plus a southern unionist wing in the Appalachian states.

    Now we increasingly have left wing Dems, dragged further left by their primary process, and a right wing GOP, dragged further right by their primary process.
    Are the Dems particularly left wing ?
    They still appear a fairly broad church to me.

    I don't really buy this both sidesism.
    Mamdani is, he is basically a Corbynite/Polanskiite in UK terms and if he wins the New York city Mayoralty next month as polls predict will run the biggest city in the USA
    The GOP will be laughing their heads off ahead of the midterms, if Mamdani gets elected in NY.

    He’s a proper communist, and everyone in NY and not in NY will be able to see what that looks like in practice.

    It’s been a while, many have forgotten.
    He's not a communist, he's a Democratic Socialist, just like David Dinkins (the one before Giuliani) was. The basics of capitalism will remain in place.

    I am constantly depressed by how serious-minded people call their opponents "fascist" or "communist" like they were confetti. We have forgotten shades of gray. :(
    Normally I’d agree with the you, but this guy is advocating for rent control, free buses, state-owned supermarkets, free childcare for under 5s, $30 minimum wage.

    All paid for by taxing “the billionaires and the corporations”, who will be off to Florida and Delaware in no time.

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/06/25/zohran-mamdani-platform-policies-issues/84350898007/

    He’s the most left wing American politician with a chance of election to serious office, in decades.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,311
    Scott_xP said:

    glw said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    Meet Copilot Mode in Edge.
    https://x.com/MicrosoftEdge/status/1981390159292629352

    I found copilot gets in my way big-time. Or bigly, as I believe it's said nowadays.
    The other day I asked Google a question about Pope Leo. Gemini informed me that there was no Pope Leo and in fact the Pope was still Francis.
    Now admittedly I do make some very niche and nerdy queries when using Google, but even so it's amazing how frequently the AI summary is wrong. And if it's wrong about the sort of things I know about I assume it has similar levels of error with things I don't know. i.e. It's practically useless.

    Hundreds of billions of dollars invested, driving up the price of electricity, diverting the computer industry away from a whole load of other problems that need work, and for what? Making up nonsense. Social media already produces a more than adequate supply of nonsense, we didn't need to get computers in on the act.
    My colleague asked CoPilot to draw an Azure diagram, which was wrong. He then asked for additional detail, which was spectacularly wrong in some really creative and imaginative ways. Entertaining, but worthless, and expensive.
    "Try using CoPilot to generate worksheets for lessons" they said.

    After an hour of fine-tuning things that looked like graphs, but weren't acutally graphs, then trying to force it to produce triangles with three straight sides, I gave up.

    Generating something that looks a bit like something useful is much easier than generating something that is actually useful. And I suspect that I'm cheaper to feed than a datacentre.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,499
    glw said:

    Scott_xP said:

    glw said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    Meet Copilot Mode in Edge.
    https://x.com/MicrosoftEdge/status/1981390159292629352

    I found copilot gets in my way big-time. Or bigly, as I believe it's said nowadays.
    The other day I asked Google a question about Pope Leo. Gemini informed me that there was no Pope Leo and in fact the Pope was still Francis.
    Now admittedly I do make some very niche and nerdy queries when using Google, but even so it's amazing how frequently the AI summary is wrong. And if it's wrong about the sort of things I know about I assume it has similar levels of error with things I don't know. i.e. It's practically useless.

    Hundreds of billions of dollars invested, driving up the price of electricity, diverting the computer industry away from a whole load of other problems that need work, and for what? Making up nonsense. Social media already produces a more than adequate supply of nonsense, we didn't need to get computers in on the act.
    My colleague asked CoPilot to draw an Azure diagram, which was wrong. He then asked for additional detail, which was spectacularly wrong in some really creative and imaginative ways. Entertaining, but worthless, and expensive.
    It's not that I object to the idea in principal, and I do broadly understand how it all works, but I'm amazed that it's considered good enough to put into production. The really scary thing is that there are already loads of people heavily using such tools and treating the results as gospel.
    I can foresee in a year or two, specialists in AI unfucking for your codebase....
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,215
    Newsnight: Labour not expecting to hold the seat.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,311

    Eabhal said:

    Road mileage tax is rubbish idea. Punishes rural communities while incentivising the kind of short journey that clog up our cities and can be walked/cycled instead.

    There already is a mileage tax on, at least on petrol or diesel. And electricity is also taxed.
    Tax on petrol and diesel isn't really a mileage tax, the gap between fuel consumption of various vehicles is far too wide for that. If one vehicle does 20mpg and another does 120, a fuel tax ends up not having much to do with distance travelled.
    Yes but it favours vehicles that are more economic, which is a good thing.
    So does VED to an extent, but not many people are dumping their Range Rover for a Toyota Aygo. Tax alone will not, and has not encouraged the uptake of fuel efficient vehicles.

    To do that the government needs to make it painful to own a wank panzer to the extent that you just can't throw money at it to make the pain go away. Doing that would entail a mix of tax, a reform of the licencing system and use restrictions on large vehicles.
    That's the problem with taxes (especially flat-rate taxes) and fines. For a certain part of the income spectrum, they will always just be a fairly minor cost of doing business.
  • eekeek Posts: 31,602
    edited October 23
    Scott_xP said:

    glw said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Your joking...not another one....

    Meet Copilot Mode in Edge.
    https://x.com/MicrosoftEdge/status/1981390159292629352

    I found copilot gets in my way big-time. Or bigly, as I believe it's said nowadays.
    The other day I asked Google a question about Pope Leo. Gemini informed me that there was no Pope Leo and in fact the Pope was still Francis.
    Now admittedly I do make some very niche and nerdy queries when using Google, but even so it's amazing how frequently the AI summary is wrong. And if it's wrong about the sort of things I know about I assume it has similar levels of error with things I don't know. i.e. It's practically useless.

    Hundreds of billions of dollars invested, driving up the price of electricity, diverting the computer industry away from a whole load of other problems that need work, and for what? Making up nonsense. Social media already produces a more than adequate supply of nonsense, we didn't need to get computers in on the act.
    My colleague asked CoPilot to draw an Azure diagram, which was wrong. He then asked for additional detail, which was spectacularly wrong in some really creative and imaginative ways. Entertaining, but worthless, and expensive.
    I've commented on how bad CoPilot is on the internals of Microsoft's own Dynamics product (people have attempted to use it 5 times to catch me out and its been wrong every single time).
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,425
    Carnyx said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @joshgerstein.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING: New suit seeks TRO blocking Trump's White House ballroom project and further destruction of East Wing.

    https://bsky.app/profile/joshgerstein.bsky.social/post/3m3v4mym45k2i

    Not a bit late for avoiding destruction of the East Wing?
    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2025/oct/23/trump-white-house-ballroom-architecture-critic-dictator-bling

    IANAE on the ins and outs of modern architecture but simply hadn't realised the size of the proposed thing.
    I don't see a 200ft long table with one chair at each end. Surely some mistake?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,360
    ohnotnow said:

    Sean_F said:

    HYUFD said:

    Reform voters lead amongst those thinking they are going to heaven and hell. LDs and Greens think they are clearly going to hell, Tory and Labour voters to heaven, interesting.

    Voters at all incomes think they are mainly going to heaven, albeit middle income earners less sure. For Christians it is love of money not hard earned money and savings that is the problem, as long as you support charities, pay your taxes and help the poor even the rich can get to heaven

    Jesus didn't say the rich man who helps the poor isn't like the camel going through the eye of the needle...
    Across the centuries, the belief endures that if you do well in life, it’s because God approves of you.
    I sometimes question Gods motives.
    "I don't want to start any Blasphemous Rumours
    But I think that God's got a sick sense of humour
    And when I die I expect to find him laughing"
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,505
    edited October 23

    Carnyx said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @joshgerstein.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING: New suit seeks TRO blocking Trump's White House ballroom project and further destruction of East Wing.

    https://bsky.app/profile/joshgerstein.bsky.social/post/3m3v4mym45k2i

    Not a bit late for avoiding destruction of the East Wing?
    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2025/oct/23/trump-white-house-ballroom-architecture-critic-dictator-bling

    IANAE on the ins and outs of modern architecture but simply hadn't realised the size of the proposed thing.
    I don't see a 200ft long table with one chair at each end. Surely some mistake?
    Why, when these plans and models were available, was everyone surpised the east wing is being torn down? It literally replaces it.

    (Yes, I appreciate Trump lied about it. Plus ça change.)
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