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  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 20,717

    Former England football captain now racehorse trainer Mick Channon still sometimes tells the story of when one of his horses sprinted away with me the day before a big race. It got the best Timeform rating of its career that day

    Knobbleeneeze, if I spelt it right

    I once met Mick Channons parents in the local pub with my parents. His mum asked me if i wanted to pop in and see his cats. She seemed put out when I politely declined.
    It was only later I realised she’d said caps…
    I did my sixth form summer work experience shovelling horseshit at Mick's yard in Upper Lambourn, before he moved to Ilsley

    I spent the summer there and rode that horse Knobbleeneeze every day. He only threw me off once

    I know Mick better than most
    But did you see his cats caps?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 16,529

    Former England football captain now racehorse trainer Mick Channon still sometimes tells the story of when one of his horses sprinted away with me the day before a big race. It got the best Timeform rating of its career that day

    Knobbleeneeze, if I spelt it right

    I once met Mick Channons parents in the local pub with my parents. His mum asked me if i wanted to pop in and see his cats. She seemed put out when I politely declined.
    It was only later I realised she’d said caps…
    I did my sixth form summer work experience shovelling horseshit at Mick's yard in Upper Lambourn, before he moved to Ilsley

    I spent the summer there and rode that horse Knobbleeneeze every day. He only threw me off once

    I know Mick better than most
    But did you see his cats caps?
    Our cat was friends with Sinéad O'Connor.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,260
    Andy_JS said:

    "Mahmood: UK has lost control of its borders
    Home Secretary says failures on migration are eroding trust as she calls for international response" (£)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/14/shabana-mahmood-uk-has-lost-control-of-its-borders

    Is somebody positioning themselves for a post Starmer world?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 35,089

    Former England football captain now racehorse trainer Mick Channon still sometimes tells the story of when one of his horses sprinted away with me the day before a big race. It got the best Timeform rating of its career that day

    Knobbleeneeze, if I spelt it right

    I once met Mick Channons parents in the local pub with my parents. His mum asked me if i wanted to pop in and see his cats. She seemed put out when I politely declined.
    It was only later I realised she’d said caps…
    I did my sixth form summer work experience shovelling horseshit at Mick's yard in Upper Lambourn, before he moved to Ilsley

    I spent the summer there and rode that horse Knobbleeneeze every day. He only threw me off once

    I know Mick better than most
    But did you see his cats caps?
    Our cat was friends with Sinéad O'Connor.
    Nothing compares to you..r cat.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,182
    Andy_JS said:

    "Mahmood: UK has lost control of its borders
    Home Secretary says failures on migration are eroding trust as she calls for international response" (£)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/14/shabana-mahmood-uk-has-lost-control-of-its-borders

    If only her party was in Government and could do something about it. 😀
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,485
    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Just noticed this.

    "Sean Thomas
    The madness and myth of the Faroe Islands
    A journey through wind, rain and legend on Europe’s wildest islands" (£)

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-madness-and-myth-of-the-faroe-islands

    Busy guy, my stalker. He's also got this in today's Telegraph. He's basically taking over THE ENTIRE MEDIA

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/14/forget-sumo-wrestling-bring-back-big-daddy/
    Getting an Adrian Chiles vibe from the Thomas guy lately.
    Indeed. I guess you gotta make a buck, so you end up writing ludicrous stuff like this:


    "It wasn’t just Daddy and Haystacks. Such was the scale and success of British TV wrestling in its heyday, many others achieved an unlikely fame, from Rollerball Rocco to Mick McManus to Drew McDonald. And then there was Kendo Nagasaki, the warrior spirit-demon.

    "In case you haven’t guessed from his name – combining a famous Japanese martial art with the name of a Japanese city famously wiped out by an atom bomb – Kendo Nagasaki purported to be from Japan. He also went permanently masked, inside the ring and out, and he never spoke directly to interviewers, preferring to observe the world from behind his kabuki-like mask, with the silently impassive eyes of the implacable samurai. Never revealing that his real identity was in fact Peter Thornley, and he came from Stoke."
    Now you mention it - I met both Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks in Blackpool back in the early 80s (possibly late 70s, god help me). Both quite charming.
    Thinking about it a bit more - I also met-ish well known band. The girl I was dating at the time was from quite a posh family and her mother was with us. The band were at another table at the bar/restaurant making quite a lot of noise and the mother walked over to them and gave them quite a ticking off.

    At the end of our meal we discovered it was paid for by some quite sheepish boys called 'The Pink Floyd'.

    Also, and yes - I am aware this is getting even more tedious than rail-gauge chat or a Spectator column - I 100% did not encounter Jimmy Page at the Castlekirk b&b on Arran which in no way often has well known musicians as guests who do impromptu sets.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,433
    viewcode said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Mahmood: UK has lost control of its borders
    Home Secretary says failures on migration are eroding trust as she calls for international response" (£)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/14/shabana-mahmood-uk-has-lost-control-of-its-borders

    If only her party was in Government and could do something about it. 😀
    To be fair they do seem to be having a go:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd72p30v574o

    Whether this is more than tinkering around the edges, we shall see...
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,182
    PARTY HOST: "Good evening Count Dracula, welcome to our little soiree. Would you like a small aperitif?"

    DRACULA: "No, I think mine are just the right size, thank you."
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 44,357
    After my father's funeral I thought I'd better get a drink at the Blue Bar at the Berkeley. While I was waiting for a table I saw Tilda Swinton in the opposite bar. She was at a table with friends smoking.

    I walked up to her and said I didn't think I'd ever get the chance to say this but I thought your performance in War Requiem was one of the most moving things I have ever seen.

    Which it was. And with that I walked away and into the oblivion of several martinis.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,038
    Why is it called a "cash ISA" when most people using one will never see any cash to do with it?
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,484
    Andy_JS said:

    Was nobody impressed by me meeting author Zadie Smith for about 10 seconds at a book signing in Oxford?

    You've just reminded me that I met David Prowse at an autograph signing, so that was cool!
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,038
    I was joking about the importance of meeting Zadie Smith, obviously. Although she is one of our best authors imo.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 35,089
    CatMan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Was nobody impressed by me meeting author Zadie Smith for about 10 seconds at a book signing in Oxford?

    You've just reminded me that I met David Prowse at an autograph signing, so that was cool!
    The greatest travesty in cinematic history was James Earl Jones dubbing over Dave Prowse in the Star Wars Trilogy.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,485
    CatMan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Was nobody impressed by me meeting author Zadie Smith for about 10 seconds at a book signing in Oxford?

    You've just reminded me that I met David Prowse at an autograph signing, so that was cool!
    I went to school with a girl who's parents owned a fancy hotel (fancy in local terms). She told me David Prowse was staying and that he was Darth Vader.

    I refused to believe her as he was the Green Cross Code guy.

    And she brought me a double-sided signed photo of Dave and Darth with (in very BOLD writing) "From me to you. Dave Prowse *****IS***** Darth Vader."

    Sadly, I lost it during a house move.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,182

    CatMan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Was nobody impressed by me meeting author Zadie Smith for about 10 seconds at a book signing in Oxford?

    You've just reminded me that I met David Prowse at an autograph signing, so that was cool!
    The greatest travesty in cinematic history was James Earl Jones dubbing over Dave Prowse in the Star Wars Trilogy.
    Yep. Darth Vader with a Bristol accent would have made a very different film…
    That's online. You can Google it.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,986
    At first glance Portland Oregon does look quite messed up. Only been here 3 minutes and I’ve seen 4 homeless people and a nutter right outside my hotel

    Maybe Trump is right. Again
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,237

    CatMan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Was nobody impressed by me meeting author Zadie Smith for about 10 seconds at a book signing in Oxford?

    You've just reminded me that I met David Prowse at an autograph signing, so that was cool!
    The greatest travesty in cinematic history was James Earl Jones dubbing over Dave Prowse in the Star Wars Trilogy.
    If only you knew the power of the Daft Side!
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,038
    Leon said:

    At first glance Portland Oregon does look quite messed up. Only been here 3 minutes and I’ve seen 4 homeless people and a nutter right outside my hotel

    Maybe Trump is right. Again

    To think Portland in the 1990s was universally thought of as one of the best cities on the planet to live in.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,260
    edited October 14
    Leon said:

    At first glance Portland Oregon does look quite messed up. Only been here 3 minutes and I’ve seen 4 homeless people and a nutter right outside my hotel

    Maybe Trump is right. Again

    I have relatives who until very recently lived there for many years. Been many times. It was a great quirky city, went downhill badly during / post COVID. Both the homeless junkies and the far left nutters smashing up downtown every weekend. Has got a bit better recently.

    One mad thing the mayor did a number of years ago was a promise to give accommodation to all homeless whatever their situation, so loads turned up / got bused there and overwhelmed the system.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,260
    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    At first glance Portland Oregon does look quite messed up. Only been here 3 minutes and I’ve seen 4 homeless people and a nutter right outside my hotel

    Maybe Trump is right. Again

    To think Portland in the 1990s was universally thought of as one of the best cities on the planet to live in.
    Oregon is still a great state, the coast like Canon beach are fantastic and then you have the River Gorge and Mount Hood.
  • MonkeysMonkeys Posts: 823
    I've met a few famous people, only one where we both took mushrooms, but the only encounter I genuinely enjoyed was, I was sat at the Mound in Edinburgh, reading a copy of A Scanner Darkly, and I looked up at some people getting ready to do some filming. One of them looked familiar to me, and as it occurred to me that it was Rutger Hauer a huge grin spread across my face, and he looked at me, saw my developing grin, and he grinned himself, and there was this nice momentary connection.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,260
    BBC News - Asylum seeker laughed after killing hotel worker Rhiannon Whyte, jury told - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy902djzv2o

    The details are horrific.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,038
    "Donald Trump says US support for Argentina is ‘gone’ if Javier Milei suffers election losses" (£)

    https://www.ft.com/content/c1cfe06b-5b57-4ffd-97b4-46d7faeb8185
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,937

    Leon said:

    At first glance Portland Oregon does look quite messed up. Only been here 3 minutes and I’ve seen 4 homeless people and a nutter right outside my hotel

    Maybe Trump is right. Again

    I have relatives who until very recently lived there for many years. Been many times. It was a great quirky city, went downhill badly during / post COVID. Both the homeless junkies and the far left nutters smashing up downtown every weekend. Has got a bit better recently.

    One mad thing the mayor did a number of years ago was a promise to give accommodation to all homeless whatever their situation, so loads turned up / got bused there and overwhelmed the system.
    The homeless in the US are economically rational: they will go wherever there are free beds and decent panhandling opportunities.

    What this means is that if you implement measures that might work well if the homeless can't cross state lines, don't work at all, because all that happens is you attract more homeless. So, your well meaning effort to help solve homelessness... actually ends homelessness in Memphis, because all their homeless people head to Portland or wherever. (And this is made even worse by towns and cities across the US actually bussing their homeless to other places.)
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,937

    Former England football captain now racehorse trainer Mick Channon still sometimes tells the story of when one of his horses sprinted away with me the day before a big race. It got the best Timeform rating of its career that day

    Knobbleeneeze, if I spelt it right

    I once met Mick Channons parents in the local pub with my parents. His mum asked me if i wanted to pop in and see his cats. She seemed put out when I politely declined.
    It was only later I realised she’d said caps…
    I did my sixth form summer work experience shovelling horseshit at Mick's yard in Upper Lambourn, before he moved to Ilsley

    I spent the summer there and rode that horse Knobbleeneeze every day. He only threw me off once

    I know Mick better than most
    But did you see his cats caps?
    Our cat was friends with Sinéad O'Connor.
    Sinead O'Connor was housemates with @Leon.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,937
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    At first glance Portland Oregon does look quite messed up. Only been here 3 minutes and I’ve seen 4 homeless people and a nutter right outside my hotel

    Maybe Trump is right. Again

    I have relatives who until very recently lived there for many years. Been many times. It was a great quirky city, went downhill badly during / post COVID. Both the homeless junkies and the far left nutters smashing up downtown every weekend. Has got a bit better recently.

    One mad thing the mayor did a number of years ago was a promise to give accommodation to all homeless whatever their situation, so loads turned up / got bused there and overwhelmed the system.
    The homeless in the US are economically rational: they will go wherever there are free beds and decent panhandling opportunities.

    What this means is that if you implement measures that might work well if the homeless can't cross state lines, don't work at all, because all that happens is you attract more homeless. So, your well meaning effort to help solve homelessness... actually ends homelessness in Memphis, because all their homeless people head to Portland or wherever. (And this is made even worse by towns and cities across the US actually bussing their homeless to other places.)
    On the other hand, as the Mayor of San Francisco has shown, you can actually turn things around very quickly. All you need to do is to make homelessness less attractive, and pretty quickly people get the message and move on.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,392

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    At first glance Portland Oregon does look quite messed up. Only been here 3 minutes and I’ve seen 4 homeless people and a nutter right outside my hotel

    Maybe Trump is right. Again

    To think Portland in the 1990s was universally thought of as one of the best cities on the planet to live in.
    Oregon is still a great state, the coast like Canon beach are fantastic and then you have the River Gorge and Mount Hood.
    Mount Hood is fine as long as you don't get stuck in the hotel for the winter...
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,182
    Monkeys said:

    I've met a few famous people, only one where we both took mushrooms, but the only encounter I genuinely enjoyed was, I was sat at the Mound in Edinburgh, reading a copy of A Scanner Darkly, and I looked up at some people getting ready to do some filming. One of them looked familiar to me, and as it occurred to me that it was Rutger Hauer a huge grin spread across my face, and he looked at me, saw my developing grin, and he grinned himself, and there was this nice momentary connection.

    "A Scanner Darkly", written by Philip K Dick, author of "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep", which was filmed as "Blade Runner", starring... Rutger Hauer
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 130,743
    rcs1000 said:

    DougSeal said:

    Leon said:

    I may have mentioned this before, but quite a close friend of mine used to go to Narcotics Anonymous Meetings in Highgate with the guy who played the Colonel in "It Ain't Half Hot Mum"

    Which is pretty incredible in itself, but at the same meeting was the guy who played the bass in the regular band on the Kids' show Rainbow, the one with Bungle and Zippy

    Yep. True story. All in the same room

    I hate to cast doubt on your close friend but Donald Hewlett lived in Whitstable, near where I grew up (I lived off the A290 halfway to Canterbury) and his daughter was at Kings. I have reason to doubt he went to NA in Highgate…
    Matthew Perry used to go to the NA/AA meeting at the church at the end of my road. I always say to friends who are coming to LA, if you want to meet celebrities go to an AA meeting in WeHo or Malibu or Santa Monica.
    Got Matthew Perry's autograph at Wimbledon once for my sister, the line I got was 'got a pen on you'
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,182

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    At first glance Portland Oregon does look quite messed up. Only been here 3 minutes and I’ve seen 4 homeless people and a nutter right outside my hotel

    Maybe Trump is right. Again

    To think Portland in the 1990s was universally thought of as one of the best cities on the planet to live in.
    Oregon is still a great state, the coast like Canon beach are fantastic and then you have the River Gorge and Mount Hood.
    Mount Hood is fine as long as you don't get stuck in the hotel for the winter...
    "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy..."
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,897
    HYUFD said:

    Margaret Thatcher had two extramarital affairs, claims new book

    Tina Gaudoin claims in The Incidental Feminist that the former prime minister had two affairs: one early in her career as an MP and one with another politician


    Discussing her latest work at Cheltenham Literature Festival, which is sponsored by The Times and The Sunday Times, the author also claims that Denis Thatcher struck up a surprisingly close friendship with the former model Mandy Rice-Davies, one of the main figures in the Profumo affair, after the Thatchers left Downing Street.

    Gaudoin said multiple sources, including the novelist and former Conservative minister Jonathan Aitken, told her that Margaret Thatcher was involved with somebody else “very early on in her parliamentary career”, and then “quite possibly” later with Sir Humphrey Atkins, the MP for Spelthorne....

    ...Sources told the author that Lord Bell, Thatcher’s head of PR, had an “extracurricular friendship” with the leader, and that “one of her favourite things” was Bell putting his hand on her knee “and other stuff” during dinners.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/margaret-thatcher-affair-news-wvb0wlc39

    The Times should really not lower itself to such tittle tattle and smut when the late great Baroness is no longer around anyway to complain about this intrusion into her private life. It is supposed to be a serious paper not a tabloid
    No Murdoch rag is a serious newspaper.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,897
    rcs1000 said:

    Former England football captain now racehorse trainer Mick Channon still sometimes tells the story of when one of his horses sprinted away with me the day before a big race. It got the best Timeform rating of its career that day

    Knobbleeneeze, if I spelt it right

    I once met Mick Channons parents in the local pub with my parents. His mum asked me if i wanted to pop in and see his cats. She seemed put out when I politely declined.
    It was only later I realised she’d said caps…
    I did my sixth form summer work experience shovelling horseshit at Mick's yard in Upper Lambourn, before he moved to Ilsley

    I spent the summer there and rode that horse Knobbleeneeze every day. He only threw me off once

    I know Mick better than most
    But did you see his cats caps?
    Our cat was friends with Sinéad O'Connor.
    Sinead O'Connor was housemates with @Leon.
    Her brother Joe, the writer, lived in the same building. Nice bloke, though when I did briefly meet her she was really quite shy.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,038
    edited 12:38AM
    New in the Mail.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15191843/Megapoll-Farage-Reform-Commons-majority.html

    "How Reform would crush all before them if election was held tomorrow: Explosive megapoll shows Nigel Farage set for the biggest Commons majority ever with Tories reduced to just seven MPs and Labour ministers culled

    Nigel Farage is set for the biggest Commons majority in modern political history with the Tories reduced to just seven MPs, according to an explosive megapoll. Reform UK is on course to win 445 seats - with Labour down to 73 MPs if an election was held tomorrow. But tactical voting could block Mr Farage's path to victory, with more than a third of Labour voters saying they would back the Tories to stop Reform. The seat-by-seat MRP poll, shared exclusively with the Daily Mail, was carried out by communications firm PLMR with Electoral Calculus. MRP (multilevel regression and post-stratification) is widely seen as a more accurate way to predict how many seats each party will win. It forecast the Liberal Democrats are on course to win 42 seats, with the SNP set for 41 and Jeremy Corbyn's Your Party on 13. But the Tories came in sixth place with just seven MPs, narrowly ahead of the Greens on six, and Plaid Cymru on five. The poll of 7,449 British adults took place from September 10 to 18 - before the party conference season."

    Seat figures:

    Ref 445
    Lab 73
    LD 42
    SNP 41
    Your Party 13
    Con 7
    Grn 6
    PC 5
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,182
    Andy_JS said:

    New in the Mail.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15191843/Megapoll-Farage-Reform-Commons-majority.html

    "How Reform would crush all before them if election was held tomorrow: Explosive megapoll shows Nigel Farage set for the biggest Commons majority ever with Tories reduced to just seven MPs and Labour ministers culled

    Nigel Farage is set for the biggest Commons majority in modern political history with the Tories reduced to just seven MPs, according to an explosive megapoll. Reform UK is on course to win 445 seats - with Labour down to 73 MPs if an election was held tomorrow. But tactical voting could block Mr Farage's path to victory, with more than a third of Labour voters saying they would back the Tories to stop Reform. The seat-by-seat MRP poll, shared exclusively with the Daily Mail, was carried out by communications firm PLMR with Electoral Calculus. MRP (multilevel regression and post-stratification) is widely seen as a more accurate way to predict how many seats each party will win. It forecast the Liberal Democrats are on course to win 42 seats, with the SNP set for 41 and Jeremy Corbyn's Your Party on 13. But the Tories came in sixth place with just seven MPs, narrowly ahead of the Greens on six, and Plaid Cymru on five. The poll of 7,449 British adults took place from September 10 to 18 - before the party conference season."

    Seat figures:

    Ref 445
    Lab 73
    LD 42
    SNP 41
    Your Party 13
    Con 7
    Grn 6
    PC 5

    Not as big as 1931

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1931_United_Kingdom_general_election
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,182
    Andy_JS said:

    New in the Mail.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15191843/Megapoll-Farage-Reform-Commons-majority.html

    "How Reform would crush all before them if election was held tomorrow: Explosive megapoll shows Nigel Farage set for the biggest Commons majority ever with Tories reduced to just seven MPs and Labour ministers culled

    Nigel Farage is set for the biggest Commons majority in modern political history with the Tories reduced to just seven MPs, according to an explosive megapoll. Reform UK is on course to win 445 seats - with Labour down to 73 MPs if an election was held tomorrow. But tactical voting could block Mr Farage's path to victory, with more than a third of Labour voters saying they would back the Tories to stop Reform. The seat-by-seat MRP poll, shared exclusively with the Daily Mail, was carried out by communications firm PLMR with Electoral Calculus. MRP (multilevel regression and post-stratification) is widely seen as a more accurate way to predict how many seats each party will win. It forecast the Liberal Democrats are on course to win 42 seats, with the SNP set for 41 and Jeremy Corbyn's Your Party on 13. But the Tories came in sixth place with just seven MPs, narrowly ahead of the Greens on six, and Plaid Cymru on five. The poll of 7,449 British adults took place from September 10 to 18 - before the party conference season."

    Seat figures:

    Ref 445
    Lab 73
    LD 42
    SNP 41
    Your Party 13
    Con 7
    Grn 6
    PC 5

    I don't know where to start with this. Emigrate? It would be the K-T event in British politics. I don't know how it would translate into betting odds: go big on Farage in case the poll is right, or go big against Farage in case the poll is wrong. I don't like this... :(
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,937
    Andy_JS said:

    New in the Mail.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15191843/Megapoll-Farage-Reform-Commons-majority.html

    "How Reform would crush all before them if election was held tomorrow: Explosive megapoll shows Nigel Farage set for the biggest Commons majority ever with Tories reduced to just seven MPs and Labour ministers culled

    Nigel Farage is set for the biggest Commons majority in modern political history with the Tories reduced to just seven MPs, according to an explosive megapoll. Reform UK is on course to win 445 seats - with Labour down to 73 MPs if an election was held tomorrow. But tactical voting could block Mr Farage's path to victory, with more than a third of Labour voters saying they would back the Tories to stop Reform. The seat-by-seat MRP poll, shared exclusively with the Daily Mail, was carried out by communications firm PLMR with Electoral Calculus. MRP (multilevel regression and post-stratification) is widely seen as a more accurate way to predict how many seats each party will win. It forecast the Liberal Democrats are on course to win 42 seats, with the SNP set for 41 and Jeremy Corbyn's Your Party on 13. But the Tories came in sixth place with just seven MPs, narrowly ahead of the Greens on six, and Plaid Cymru on five. The poll of 7,449 British adults took place from September 10 to 18 - before the party conference season."

    Seat figures:

    Ref 445
    Lab 73
    LD 42
    SNP 41
    Your Party 13
    Con 7
    Grn 6
    PC 5

    Annoyingly, it is more than a month out of date.

    It would be great to see the underlying data, to compare it with the other MRPs.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,986
    viewcode said:

    Andy_JS said:

    New in the Mail.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15191843/Megapoll-Farage-Reform-Commons-majority.html

    "How Reform would crush all before them if election was held tomorrow: Explosive megapoll shows Nigel Farage set for the biggest Commons majority ever with Tories reduced to just seven MPs and Labour ministers culled

    Nigel Farage is set for the biggest Commons majority in modern political history with the Tories reduced to just seven MPs, according to an explosive megapoll. Reform UK is on course to win 445 seats - with Labour down to 73 MPs if an election was held tomorrow. But tactical voting could block Mr Farage's path to victory, with more than a third of Labour voters saying they would back the Tories to stop Reform. The seat-by-seat MRP poll, shared exclusively with the Daily Mail, was carried out by communications firm PLMR with Electoral Calculus. MRP (multilevel regression and post-stratification) is widely seen as a more accurate way to predict how many seats each party will win. It forecast the Liberal Democrats are on course to win 42 seats, with the SNP set for 41 and Jeremy Corbyn's Your Party on 13. But the Tories came in sixth place with just seven MPs, narrowly ahead of the Greens on six, and Plaid Cymru on five. The poll of 7,449 British adults took place from September 10 to 18 - before the party conference season."

    Seat figures:

    Ref 445
    Lab 73
    LD 42
    SNP 41
    Your Party 13
    Con 7
    Grn 6
    PC 5

    I don't know where to start with this. Emigrate? It would be the K-T event in British politics. I don't know how it would translate into betting odds: go big on Farage in case the poll is right, or go big against Farage in case the poll is wrong. I don't like this... :(
    Bye bye
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,112
    .
    viewcode said:

    Andy_JS said:

    New in the Mail.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15191843/Megapoll-Farage-Reform-Commons-majority.html

    "How Reform would crush all before them if election was held tomorrow: Explosive megapoll shows Nigel Farage set for the biggest Commons majority ever with Tories reduced to just seven MPs and Labour ministers culled

    Nigel Farage is set for the biggest Commons majority in modern political history with the Tories reduced to just seven MPs, according to an explosive megapoll. Reform UK is on course to win 445 seats - with Labour down to 73 MPs if an election was held tomorrow. But tactical voting could block Mr Farage's path to victory, with more than a third of Labour voters saying they would back the Tories to stop Reform. The seat-by-seat MRP poll, shared exclusively with the Daily Mail, was carried out by communications firm PLMR with Electoral Calculus. MRP (multilevel regression and post-stratification) is widely seen as a more accurate way to predict how many seats each party will win. It forecast the Liberal Democrats are on course to win 42 seats, with the SNP set for 41 and Jeremy Corbyn's Your Party on 13. But the Tories came in sixth place with just seven MPs, narrowly ahead of the Greens on six, and Plaid Cymru on five. The poll of 7,449 British adults took place from September 10 to 18 - before the party conference season."

    Seat figures:

    Ref 445
    Lab 73
    LD 42
    SNP 41
    Your Party 13
    Con 7
    Grn 6
    PC 5

    I don't know where to start with this. Emigrate? It would be the K-T event in British politics. I don't know how it would translate into betting odds: go big on Farage in case the poll is right, or go big against Farage in case the poll is wrong. I don't like this... :(
    Long way to go before the next election.

    Leon's celebrating in advance another disastrous government he plans to vote for, might yet prove premature.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,897
    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    New in the Mail.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15191843/Megapoll-Farage-Reform-Commons-majority.html

    "How Reform would crush all before them if election was held tomorrow: Explosive megapoll shows Nigel Farage set for the biggest Commons majority ever with Tories reduced to just seven MPs and Labour ministers culled

    Nigel Farage is set for the biggest Commons majority in modern political history with the Tories reduced to just seven MPs, according to an explosive megapoll. Reform UK is on course to win 445 seats - with Labour down to 73 MPs if an election was held tomorrow. But tactical voting could block Mr Farage's path to victory, with more than a third of Labour voters saying they would back the Tories to stop Reform. The seat-by-seat MRP poll, shared exclusively with the Daily Mail, was carried out by communications firm PLMR with Electoral Calculus. MRP (multilevel regression and post-stratification) is widely seen as a more accurate way to predict how many seats each party will win. It forecast the Liberal Democrats are on course to win 42 seats, with the SNP set for 41 and Jeremy Corbyn's Your Party on 13. But the Tories came in sixth place with just seven MPs, narrowly ahead of the Greens on six, and Plaid Cymru on five. The poll of 7,449 British adults took place from September 10 to 18 - before the party conference season."

    Seat figures:

    Ref 445
    Lab 73
    LD 42
    SNP 41
    Your Party 13
    Con 7
    Grn 6
    PC 5

    Annoyingly, it is more than a month out of date.

    It would be great to see the underlying data, to compare it with the other MRPs.
    This is polling turned into propaganda. Those who bet on this basis will lose their shirts.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,605
    Andy_JS said:

    New in the Mail.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15191843/Megapoll-Farage-Reform-Commons-majority.html

    "How Reform would crush all before them if election was held tomorrow: Explosive megapoll shows Nigel Farage set for the biggest Commons majority ever with Tories reduced to just seven MPs and Labour ministers culled

    Nigel Farage is set for the biggest Commons majority in modern political history with the Tories reduced to just seven MPs, according to an explosive megapoll. Reform UK is on course to win 445 seats - with Labour down to 73 MPs if an election was held tomorrow. But tactical voting could block Mr Farage's path to victory, with more than a third of Labour voters saying they would back the Tories to stop Reform. The seat-by-seat MRP poll, shared exclusively with the Daily Mail, was carried out by communications firm PLMR with Electoral Calculus. MRP (multilevel regression and post-stratification) is widely seen as a more accurate way to predict how many seats each party will win. It forecast the Liberal Democrats are on course to win 42 seats, with the SNP set for 41 and Jeremy Corbyn's Your Party on 13. But the Tories came in sixth place with just seven MPs, narrowly ahead of the Greens on six, and Plaid Cymru on five. The poll of 7,449 British adults took place from September 10 to 18 - before the party conference season."

    Seat figures:

    Ref 445
    Lab 73
    LD 42
    SNP 41
    Your Party 13
    Con 7
    Grn 6
    PC 5

    The major problem with Reform is two fold, they talk the talk on issues bothering the voters, but they have so far failed to walk the walk when it comes to providing solid policies that are not only deliverable, but which will also fix the problems the UK is now currently facing. Its one thing to have a party leader who has his own PPB four days aweek every week on GB News while he spends far less time in Westminster as a party leader doing the day job day than he should while his main opposition who do a far more full time day job while unfairly get less airtime to rebut his claims GB News.

    Nicola Sturgeon carried on her daily Covid updates which mainly told us all nothing new for months right up towards the Holyrood election in May 2021 when the TV broadcasters should have called a halt due to fair play. They briefly allowed the opposition parties in Scotland a rebuttal platform on air before that was swiftly shut down by them because the SNP don't do scrutiny or criticism during the election period. Either Nigel Farage is the full time leader of the Reform party at Westminster or he is a part time leader and weekly GB News presenter, but he cannot be both if we want to keep the same fairness for all in UK politics when it comes to political advetising or campaigning in the UK?!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,112
    MAGA, the next generation.

    ‘I love Hitler’: Leaked messages expose Young Republicans’ racist chat
    Thousands of private messages reveal young GOP leaders joking about gas chambers, slavery and rape

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146
    ...The 2,900 pages of chats, shared among a dozen millennial and Gen Z Republicans between early January and mid-August, chronicle their campaign to seize control of the national Young Republican organization on a hardline pro-Donald Trump platform. Many of the chat members already work inside government or party politics, and one serves as a state senator.
    Together, the messages reveal a culture where racist, antisemitic and violent rhetoric circulate freely — and where the Trump-era loosening of political norms has made such talk feel less taboo among those positioning themselves as the party’s next leaders...
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,112
    And the current one.

    Speaker Johnson says that priests being shot with pepper balls, and journalists being arrested doesn't "cross the line..." but the most threatening thing he's seen yet is "naked bicyclists."..
    https://x.com/ReallyAmerican1/status/1978141612937977987

    Has Leon encountered any of these terrifying protests, or inflatable frogs ?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,112
    fitalass said:

    Andy_JS said:

    New in the Mail.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15191843/Megapoll-Farage-Reform-Commons-majority.html

    "How Reform would crush all before them if election was held tomorrow: Explosive megapoll shows Nigel Farage set for the biggest Commons majority ever with Tories reduced to just seven MPs and Labour ministers culled

    Nigel Farage is set for the biggest Commons majority in modern political history with the Tories reduced to just seven MPs, according to an explosive megapoll. Reform UK is on course to win 445 seats - with Labour down to 73 MPs if an election was held tomorrow. But tactical voting could block Mr Farage's path to victory, with more than a third of Labour voters saying they would back the Tories to stop Reform. The seat-by-seat MRP poll, shared exclusively with the Daily Mail, was carried out by communications firm PLMR with Electoral Calculus. MRP (multilevel regression and post-stratification) is widely seen as a more accurate way to predict how many seats each party will win. It forecast the Liberal Democrats are on course to win 42 seats, with the SNP set for 41 and Jeremy Corbyn's Your Party on 13. But the Tories came in sixth place with just seven MPs, narrowly ahead of the Greens on six, and Plaid Cymru on five. The poll of 7,449 British adults took place from September 10 to 18 - before the party conference season."

    Seat figures:

    Ref 445
    Lab 73
    LD 42
    SNP 41
    Your Party 13
    Con 7
    Grn 6
    PC 5

    The major problem with Reform is two fold, they talk the talk on issues bothering the voters, but they have so far failed to walk the walk when it comes to providing solid policies that are not only deliverable, but which will also fix the problems the UK is now currently facing. Its one thing to have a party leader who has his own PPB four days aweek every week on GB News while he spends far less time in Westminster as a party leader doing the day job day than he should while his main opposition who do a far more full time day job while unfairly get less airtime to rebut his claims GB News.

    Nicola Sturgeon carried on her daily Covid updates which mainly told us all nothing new for months right up towards the Holyrood election in May 2021 when the TV broadcasters should have called a halt due to fair play. They briefly allowed the opposition parties in Scotland a rebuttal platform on air before that was swiftly shut down by them because the SNP don't do scrutiny or criticism during the election period. Either Nigel Farage is the full time leader of the Reform party at Westminster or he is a part time leader and weekly GB News presenter, but he cannot be both if we want to keep the same fairness for all in UK politics when it comes to political advetising or campaigning in the UK?!
    This is, again, a (slightly pallid) copy of the US right, and their determined undermining of any restrictions on campaign finance or political advertising.

    GB News is perhaps analogous to Fox.
  • TazTaz Posts: 21,472

    DougSeal said:

    Leon said:

    OK who is THE most famous person PBers have spoken with? ie exchanged words with?

    I guess anyone who spoke to the late Queen (I didn't) wins this, so royalty is disallowed, because a series of answers saying The Queen will be boring

    Mine is probably Mick Jagger, then Arnold Schwarzeneggar

    Then Keanu Reeves, maybe. Cameron Diaz once passed me a beer at a party

    Bill Clinton
    I have stayed in the hotel room Bill Clinton has slept in.
    I stayed ina room in Rudding Park that Mandela stayed in, also Obama IIRC
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 75,503
    Nigelb said:

    And the current one.

    Speaker Johnson says that priests being shot with pepper balls, and journalists being arrested doesn't "cross the line..." but the most threatening thing he's seen yet is "naked bicyclists."..
    https://x.com/ReallyAmerican1/status/1978141612937977987

    Has Leon encountered any of these terrifying protests, or inflatable frogs ?

    Well, I suppose naked cyclists demonstrating his own - inferiority - would seem extremely threatening to such a small man.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,112
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    And the current one.

    Speaker Johnson says that priests being shot with pepper balls, and journalists being arrested doesn't "cross the line..." but the most threatening thing he's seen yet is "naked bicyclists."..
    https://x.com/ReallyAmerican1/status/1978141612937977987

    Has Leon encountered any of these terrifying protests, or inflatable frogs ?

    Well, I suppose naked cyclists demonstrating his own - inferiority - would seem extremely threatening to such a small man.
    Don't be mean.
    That's most unfair to Leon.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,112
    edited 4:51AM
    I hadn't realised just how small this economically crucial market is.

    Given the cost and high levels of pollution associated with processing rare earth minerals, it wasn't a difficult market for China to monopolise.

    america’s entire rare earth import bill in 2024 was just $170 million, in a $5 billion global market — smaller than a single iron mine.

    yet those materials enable >$500 billion* in downstream industries. the value of rare earths is best measured in tons, not dollars.

    https://x.com/rmcentush/status/1978226874464559146


    *Probably a LOT more than that, depending on how you define downstream.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 75,503
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    And the current one.

    Speaker Johnson says that priests being shot with pepper balls, and journalists being arrested doesn't "cross the line..." but the most threatening thing he's seen yet is "naked bicyclists."..
    https://x.com/ReallyAmerican1/status/1978141612937977987

    Has Leon encountered any of these terrifying protests, or inflatable frogs ?

    Well, I suppose naked cyclists demonstrating his own - inferiority - would seem extremely threatening to such a small man.
    Don't be mean.
    That's most unfair to Leon.
    I meant Mike ‘Mini’ Johnson!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,112
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    And the current one.

    Speaker Johnson says that priests being shot with pepper balls, and journalists being arrested doesn't "cross the line..." but the most threatening thing he's seen yet is "naked bicyclists."..
    https://x.com/ReallyAmerican1/status/1978141612937977987

    Has Leon encountered any of these terrifying protests, or inflatable frogs ?

    Well, I suppose naked cyclists demonstrating his own - inferiority - would seem extremely threatening to such a small man.
    Don't be mean.
    That's most unfair to Leon.
    I meant Mike ‘Mini’ Johnson!
    That was what I thought.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,723
    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146?fbclid=IwY2xjawNb7yVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHpiuAgGef-xx5qyN-d1eFzGG5htMwUgWGcxSRZ_z0x0j0NyBaTOim2xKgME7_aem_sJU63VqLDrytz8LRHme4lA

    This lot are certainly saying the quiet part out loud.

    I do worry that a generation hence, support for Nazism, Holocaust denial, and slavery will be seen as “respectable” positions to take (the far left variant of these argument is that there was really nothing to choose between Britain, the USA, and the Nazis; and that capitalism is no different to slavery).
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,518
    MaxPB said:

    TimS said:

    MaxPB said:

    carnforth said:

    Has Macron's humiliation been mentioned ?

    French Prime Minister Sébastien Lecornu has told parliament he backs suspending controversial 2023 pension reforms, in the face of crucial votes of no-confidence later this week.

    The changes, which raised the retirement age from 62 to 64, were seen as signature reforms in Emmanuel Macron's presidency.

    "This autumn I will propose to parliament that we suspend the 2023 pension reform until the [2027] presidential election," Lecornu said to applause from left-wing parties.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crkldd02xg8o

    We have plenty of problems in this country but at least people accept a rising state pension age.

    Ssssssssshhh don't summon the WASPIs.
    France is in very serious fiscal trouble and yet it is our gilts that have the 'moron' factor.
    France is backstopped by the ECB and ultimately Germany. And the Euro Area has lower inflation and hence interest rates. This allows France to be in a worse state than us, fiscally speaking, but enjoy lower bond yields.
    Yup, markets are pricing in an implicit guarantee that German and Dutch taxpayers will pay the bill if France looks like defaulting.
    It’s not really default risk, it’s inflation and FX expectations.
    It just means there's a much lower idiot premium than would otherwise be the case.
    I would argue that the government idiot premium should be measured by spread to local currency swap rates, as opposed to outright yield levels (where growth rates, inflation etc play a large part).

    That puts Germany as the least idiotic.

    The US as much more idiotic then Germany.

    The UK slightly more stupid than the US.

    And France by far the stupidest of major economies. Worse than Spain. Not quite as bad as Italy.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 11,299

    DougSeal said:

    Leon said:

    OK who is THE most famous person PBers have spoken with? ie exchanged words with?

    I guess anyone who spoke to the late Queen (I didn't) wins this, so royalty is disallowed, because a series of answers saying The Queen will be boring

    Mine is probably Mick Jagger, then Arnold Schwarzeneggar

    Then Keanu Reeves, maybe. Cameron Diaz once passed me a beer at a party

    Bill Clinton
    I have stayed in the hotel room Bill Clinton has slept in.
    My mother slept in the same bed as Christine Keeler…
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 75,503

    DougSeal said:

    Leon said:

    OK who is THE most famous person PBers have spoken with? ie exchanged words with?

    I guess anyone who spoke to the late Queen (I didn't) wins this, so royalty is disallowed, because a series of answers saying The Queen will be boring

    Mine is probably Mick Jagger, then Arnold Schwarzeneggar

    Then Keanu Reeves, maybe. Cameron Diaz once passed me a beer at a party

    Bill Clinton
    I have stayed in the hotel room Bill Clinton has slept in.
    My mother slept in the same bed as Christine Keeler…
    Was it Hobson's Choice?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 47,787
    Nigelb said:

    MAGA, the next generation.

    ‘I love Hitler’: Leaked messages expose Young Republicans’ racist chat
    Thousands of private messages reveal young GOP leaders joking about gas chambers, slavery and rape

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146
    ...The 2,900 pages of chats, shared among a dozen millennial and Gen Z Republicans between early January and mid-August, chronicle their campaign to seize control of the national Young Republican organization on a hardline pro-Donald Trump platform. Many of the chat members already work inside government or party politics, and one serves as a state senator.
    Together, the messages reveal a culture where racist, antisemitic and violent rhetoric circulate freely — and where the Trump-era loosening of political norms has made such talk feel less taboo among those positioning themselves as the party’s next leaders...

    A bunch of young jerks, who think they're Alpha Males, pushing each other to be more edgy and extreme. Sometimes to the extent they actually start believing it.

    You meet them all over the place in life, and they're always utter wan*ers.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,986
    edited 5:40AM
    I got a free ticket to an NBA match tonight. The Portland Whatevers versus the Derrtown Dontgiveafucks

    Amazingly, professional American basketball is EVEN WORSE than professional American football, as a sport and as a spectacle. It is utterly dismal. Only cretins or toddlers like this shit
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 1,747
    ohnotnow said:

    viewcode said:

    Scarey thread on the death of the housing market in London

    https://x.com/rcolvile/status/1978057203476013275#m

    I wish twitter/x still let me read threads.
    (If not already advised) do it this way.

    One comment about why *not* building is good news

    "London is less than 40% English. The English should not support building houses for foreigners "


    https://nitter.poast.org/rcolvile/status/1978057203476013275#m
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 11,299
    Scott_xP said:

    @carolinehaskins.bsky.social‬

    NEW: A proposal for rebuilding Gaza that's been shared with the Trump admin references Tesla, IKEA, TSMC, and tons of other companies. I reached out to them—none had discussed or agreed to any work in Gaza. Some had no idea they were mentioned in this proposal:

    https://bsky.app/profile/carolinehaskins.bsky.social/post/3m36llvsw6k2o

    I’m impressed they managed to get a whole article about some peon creating a PowerPoint presentation
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,200
    Sean_F said:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146?fbclid=IwY2xjawNb7yVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHpiuAgGef-xx5qyN-d1eFzGG5htMwUgWGcxSRZ_z0x0j0NyBaTOim2xKgME7_aem_sJU63VqLDrytz8LRHme4lA

    This lot are certainly saying the quiet part out loud.

    I do worry that a generation hence, support for Nazism, Holocaust denial, and slavery will be seen as “respectable” positions to take (the far left variant of these argument is that there was really nothing to choose between Britain, the USA, and the Nazis; and that capitalism is no different to slavery).

    A generation hence will be fine, probably. Indeed probably better than now, because society will have had an unambiguous reminder of why this sort of stuff is bad.

    The interesting thing is whether it is a proper generation or an SNP generation. The alarming thing is how much harm will they cause to get to that point.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,986

    Nigelb said:

    MAGA, the next generation.

    ‘I love Hitler’: Leaked messages expose Young Republicans’ racist chat
    Thousands of private messages reveal young GOP leaders joking about gas chambers, slavery and rape

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146
    ...The 2,900 pages of chats, shared among a dozen millennial and Gen Z Republicans between early January and mid-August, chronicle their campaign to seize control of the national Young Republican organization on a hardline pro-Donald Trump platform. Many of the chat members already work inside government or party politics, and one serves as a state senator.
    Together, the messages reveal a culture where racist, antisemitic and violent rhetoric circulate freely — and where the Trump-era loosening of political norms has made such talk feel less taboo among those positioning themselves as the party’s next leaders...

    A bunch of young jerks, who think they're Alpha Males, pushing each other to be more edgy and extreme. Sometimes to the extent they actually start believing it.

    You meet them all over the place in life, and they're always utter wan*ers.
    Still more fun than a bunch of Beta Cucks, tho
  • KnightOutKnightOut Posts: 196
    Yesterday I met someone whose job is designing lanyards.

    It's over. Where can I migrate?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,115
    Leon said:

    I got a free ticket to an NBA match tonight. The Portland Whatevers versus the Derrtown Dontgiveafucks

    Amazingly, professional American basketball is EVEN WORSE than professional American football, as a sport and as a spectacle. It is utterly dismal. Only cretins or toddlers like this shit

    One team of genetic freaks run to the left.

    They score.

    The other team of genetic freaks run to the right.

    They score.

    Repeat ad nauseum.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 47,787
    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    MAGA, the next generation.

    ‘I love Hitler’: Leaked messages expose Young Republicans’ racist chat
    Thousands of private messages reveal young GOP leaders joking about gas chambers, slavery and rape

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146
    ...The 2,900 pages of chats, shared among a dozen millennial and Gen Z Republicans between early January and mid-August, chronicle their campaign to seize control of the national Young Republican organization on a hardline pro-Donald Trump platform. Many of the chat members already work inside government or party politics, and one serves as a state senator.
    Together, the messages reveal a culture where racist, antisemitic and violent rhetoric circulate freely — and where the Trump-era loosening of political norms has made such talk feel less taboo among those positioning themselves as the party’s next leaders...

    A bunch of young jerks, who think they're Alpha Males, pushing each other to be more edgy and extreme. Sometimes to the extent they actually start believing it.

    You meet them all over the place in life, and they're always utter wan*ers.
    Still more fun than a bunch of Beta Cucks, tho
    Again, you are insulting my wife by insinuating she is having an affair. She sometimes reads PB, and sees you saying that sort of thing.

    You said this once, and apologised. But you keep on repeating it.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 6,493
    Leon said:

    I got a free ticket to an NBA match tonight. The Portland Whatevers versus the Derrtown Dontgiveafucks

    Amazingly, professional American basketball is EVEN WORSE than professional American football, as a sport and as a spectacle. It is utterly dismal. Only cretins or toddlers like this shit

    Never a truer word said !
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,986

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    MAGA, the next generation.

    ‘I love Hitler’: Leaked messages expose Young Republicans’ racist chat
    Thousands of private messages reveal young GOP leaders joking about gas chambers, slavery and rape

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146
    ...The 2,900 pages of chats, shared among a dozen millennial and Gen Z Republicans between early January and mid-August, chronicle their campaign to seize control of the national Young Republican organization on a hardline pro-Donald Trump platform. Many of the chat members already work inside government or party politics, and one serves as a state senator.
    Together, the messages reveal a culture where racist, antisemitic and violent rhetoric circulate freely — and where the Trump-era loosening of political norms has made such talk feel less taboo among those positioning themselves as the party’s next leaders...

    A bunch of young jerks, who think they're Alpha Males, pushing each other to be more edgy and extreme. Sometimes to the extent they actually start believing it.

    You meet them all over the place in life, and they're always utter wan*ers.
    Still more fun than a bunch of Beta Cucks, tho
    Again, you are insulting my wife by insinuating she is having an affair. She sometimes reads PB, and sees you saying that sort of thing.

    You said this once, and apologised. But you keep on repeating it.
    That’s a vile slur. I never apologised. I demand an apology!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,986
    nico67 said:

    Leon said:

    I got a free ticket to an NBA match tonight. The Portland Whatevers versus the Derrtown Dontgiveafucks

    Amazingly, professional American basketball is EVEN WORSE than professional American football, as a sport and as a spectacle. It is utterly dismal. Only cretins or toddlers like this shit

    Never a truer word said !
    It was honestly awful. I have never been to a more listless yet overpriced and overblown event. All fake fake fake. And the sport is pitifully mediocre

    Grim

    I improved my mood by going to a classic American oyster bar. Jake’s crawfish bar, founded in 1907 here in Portland Oregon. Wonderful oysters and crabcakes

    One thing America does well is Eating at the bar. It’s a brilliant idea. Demotic and fun. The only other country that does it is Japan. Where it’s also fun
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 16,529
    Battlebus said:

    ohnotnow said:

    viewcode said:

    Scarey thread on the death of the housing market in London

    https://x.com/rcolvile/status/1978057203476013275#m

    I wish twitter/x still let me read threads.
    (If not already advised) do it this way.

    One comment about why *not* building is good news

    "London is less than 40% English. The English should not support building houses for foreigners "


    https://nitter.poast.org/rcolvile/status/1978057203476013275#m
    My Scottish friend has a huge flat. She lives in it on her own. You could get a family of 3 in there. STOP THIS NONSENSE!
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 11,299
    Cookie said:

    geoffw said:

    My sister was at a school parents' meeting chatting amicably with another mother only to be told by someone else later that the other mother was Madonna

    Given how much work she has had done I am not sure I would recognise her.
    I often see people who I think look a bit like XX and only later realise it probably was XX. Ben Fogle art a cafe on the A82 for instance.
    I once overtook Alan Titchmarsh on the M5. He was driving a Rolls Royce with a personliases registration plate which strongly indicated his keenness on gardening. "I bet that's Alan Titchmarsh," my friend said, not entirely seriously. And we passed him,band it was. He gave us a cheery wave, and looked absolutely delighted with the experience of being Alan Titchmarsh

    He’s a very nice man
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,878
    Nigelb said:

    And the current one.

    Speaker Johnson says that priests being shot with pepper balls, and journalists being arrested doesn't "cross the line..." but the most threatening thing he's seen yet is "naked bicyclists."..
    https://x.com/ReallyAmerican1/status/1978141612937977987

    Has Leon encountered any of these terrifying protests, or inflatable frogs ?

    Watching Mike Johnson defending the latest indefensible MAGA idiocy in his oddly sanctimonious way always reminds me somehow of a worm.

    Which is deeply unfair on our subterranean fellow creatures I know as they are generally industrious, useful and inoffensive.

    Maybe that parasite in Alien would be more apt?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 45,530

    Leon said:

    I got a free ticket to an NBA match tonight. The Portland Whatevers versus the Derrtown Dontgiveafucks

    Amazingly, professional American basketball is EVEN WORSE than professional American football, as a sport and as a spectacle. It is utterly dismal. Only cretins or toddlers like this shit

    One team of genetic freaks run to the left.

    They score.

    The other team of genetic freaks run to the right.

    They score.

    Repeat ad nauseum.
    Is this a political metaphor?
  • TazTaz Posts: 21,472
    Battlebus said:

    ohnotnow said:

    viewcode said:

    Scarey thread on the death of the housing market in London

    https://x.com/rcolvile/status/1978057203476013275#m

    I wish twitter/x still let me read threads.
    (If not already advised) do it this way.

    One comment about why *not* building is good news

    "London is less than 40% English. The English should not support building houses for foreigners "


    https://nitter.poast.org/rcolvile/status/1978057203476013275#m
    What an unpleasant fellow.

    Robert Colville is right. We need to build, irrespective of who needs the homes.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 45,530
    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    MAGA, the next generation.

    ‘I love Hitler’: Leaked messages expose Young Republicans’ racist chat
    Thousands of private messages reveal young GOP leaders joking about gas chambers, slavery and rape

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146
    ...The 2,900 pages of chats, shared among a dozen millennial and Gen Z Republicans between early January and mid-August, chronicle their campaign to seize control of the national Young Republican organization on a hardline pro-Donald Trump platform. Many of the chat members already work inside government or party politics, and one serves as a state senator.
    Together, the messages reveal a culture where racist, antisemitic and violent rhetoric circulate freely — and where the Trump-era loosening of political norms has made such talk feel less taboo among those positioning themselves as the party’s next leaders...

    A bunch of young jerks, who think they're Alpha Males, pushing each other to be more edgy and extreme. Sometimes to the extent they actually start believing it.

    You meet them all over the place in life, and they're always utter wan*ers.
    Still more fun than a bunch of Beta Cucks, tho
    Is there anything more Beta Cuck than falling into a starstruck trance at any passing fashy strong man?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 35,089
    ...

    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Just noticed this.

    "Sean Thomas
    The madness and myth of the Faroe Islands
    A journey through wind, rain and legend on Europe’s wildest islands" (£)

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-madness-and-myth-of-the-faroe-islands

    Busy guy, my stalker. He's also got this in today's Telegraph. He's basically taking over THE ENTIRE MEDIA

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/14/forget-sumo-wrestling-bring-back-big-daddy/
    Getting an Adrian Chiles vibe from the Thomas guy lately.
    That is a terrible slur. If I was Adrian Chiles, I'd sue!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,986
    edited 6:31AM

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    MAGA, the next generation.

    ‘I love Hitler’: Leaked messages expose Young Republicans’ racist chat
    Thousands of private messages reveal young GOP leaders joking about gas chambers, slavery and rape

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146
    ...The 2,900 pages of chats, shared among a dozen millennial and Gen Z Republicans between early January and mid-August, chronicle their campaign to seize control of the national Young Republican organization on a hardline pro-Donald Trump platform. Many of the chat members already work inside government or party politics, and one serves as a state senator.
    Together, the messages reveal a culture where racist, antisemitic and violent rhetoric circulate freely — and where the Trump-era loosening of political norms has made such talk feel less taboo among those positioning themselves as the party’s next leaders...

    A bunch of young jerks, who think they're Alpha Males, pushing each other to be more edgy and extreme. Sometimes to the extent they actually start believing it.

    You meet them all over the place in life, and they're always utter wan*ers.
    Still more fun than a bunch of Beta Cucks, tho
    Is there anything more Beta Cuck than falling into a starstruck trance at any passing fashy strong man?
    Voting, as a nation, to remain a colonial dependency of England?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 45,530
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    MAGA, the next generation.

    ‘I love Hitler’: Leaked messages expose Young Republicans’ racist chat
    Thousands of private messages reveal young GOP leaders joking about gas chambers, slavery and rape

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146
    ...The 2,900 pages of chats, shared among a dozen millennial and Gen Z Republicans between early January and mid-August, chronicle their campaign to seize control of the national Young Republican organization on a hardline pro-Donald Trump platform. Many of the chat members already work inside government or party politics, and one serves as a state senator.
    Together, the messages reveal a culture where racist, antisemitic and violent rhetoric circulate freely — and where the Trump-era loosening of political norms has made such talk feel less taboo among those positioning themselves as the party’s next leaders...

    A bunch of young jerks, who think they're Alpha Males, pushing each other to be more edgy and extreme. Sometimes to the extent they actually start believing it.

    You meet them all over the place in life, and they're always utter wan*ers.
    Still more fun than a bunch of Beta Cucks, tho
    Is there anything more Beta Cuck than falling into a starstruck trance at any passing fashy strong man?
    Voting, as a nation, to remain a colonial dependency of England?
    Well, that was the Unionists who at the time were slobbered over by the likes of you, not me.

    Hey @DavidL, how do you feel about them beta cuck apples?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,344
    Was the collapsed China spy case a real-life "dead cat" tactic? (70 seconds)
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4IhdF_IQB_0

    Ed Balls wonders if the China spy row was reactivated to distract from...
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 53,103
    Sandpit said:

    I met a US senator -- who shortly afterwards died in an airplane accident. A few years later, in a different state, I met another US senator -- who shortly afterwards died in an airplane accident.

    I like to think i am not superstitious, but I have to admit that since then I have not sought out meetings with US senators.

    (Incidentally, US congressmen and senators die more often in airplance crashes than the general public. Here's a famous, if somewhat dated, example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hale_Boggs )

    Rule of thumb is that the bigger the plane the safer it is.

    Senators end up doing a lot of flying in small regional jets and private planes. They probably have friends in the general aviation community as well, who have a (relatively) terrible accident rate.
    I was thinking the same. You could also posit that, perhaps, as wealthy and powerful people whose patronage any flying school would be eager to have, maybe they get an easier ride through pilot training than the average guy?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,344
    edited 6:40AM
    How thousands of Gordon Brown’s child trust funds completely lost their worth
    Baby bonds were supposed to be a ‘real financial asset’ for children turning 18. What happened?
    ...
    About 210,000 accounts now contain £499 or less, official figures show, after the nest eggs were automatically handed to City firms that charged sky-high annual fees.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/banking/savings-accounts/thousands-gordon-brown-child-trust-funds-lost-worth/ (£££)
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,415
    I had a coffee with Professor Jonathan Van-Tam last year who told me he fked up his A-levels because he was too busy socialising and having fun and got into study medicine on clearing.

    Forgot that one. He was really interesting.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,570

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    MAGA, the next generation.

    ‘I love Hitler’: Leaked messages expose Young Republicans’ racist chat
    Thousands of private messages reveal young GOP leaders joking about gas chambers, slavery and rape

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146
    ...The 2,900 pages of chats, shared among a dozen millennial and Gen Z Republicans between early January and mid-August, chronicle their campaign to seize control of the national Young Republican organization on a hardline pro-Donald Trump platform. Many of the chat members already work inside government or party politics, and one serves as a state senator.
    Together, the messages reveal a culture where racist, antisemitic and violent rhetoric circulate freely — and where the Trump-era loosening of political norms has made such talk feel less taboo among those positioning themselves as the party’s next leaders...

    A bunch of young jerks, who think they're Alpha Males, pushing each other to be more edgy and extreme. Sometimes to the extent they actually start believing it.

    You meet them all over the place in life, and they're always utter wan*ers.
    Still more fun than a bunch of Beta Cucks, tho
    Is there anything more Beta Cuck than falling into a starstruck trance at any passing fashy strong man?
    Voting, as a nation, to remain a colonial dependency of England?
    Well, that was the Unionists who at the time were slobbered over by the likes of you, not me.

    Hey @DavidL, how do you feel about them beta cuck apples?
    Had a smile at the riposte. As I consider myself primarily British and am proud to be so, I don't think it really applies to me.

    And good morning to you BTW.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,815

    DougSeal said:

    Leon said:

    OK who is THE most famous person PBers have spoken with? ie exchanged words with?

    I guess anyone who spoke to the late Queen (I didn't) wins this, so royalty is disallowed, because a series of answers saying The Queen will be boring

    Mine is probably Mick Jagger, then Arnold Schwarzeneggar

    Then Keanu Reeves, maybe. Cameron Diaz once passed me a beer at a party

    Bill Clinton
    I have stayed in the hotel room Bill Clinton has slept in.
    My mother slept in the same bed as Christine Keeler…
    I hope they changed the sheets.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,604

    Cookie said:

    geoffw said:

    My sister was at a school parents' meeting chatting amicably with another mother only to be told by someone else later that the other mother was Madonna

    Given how much work she has had done I am not sure I would recognise her.
    I often see people who I think look a bit like XX and only later realise it probably was XX. Ben Fogle art a cafe on the A82 for instance.
    I once overtook Alan Titchmarsh on the M5. He was driving a Rolls Royce with a personliases registration plate which strongly indicated his keenness on gardening. "I bet that's Alan Titchmarsh," my friend said, not entirely seriously. And we passed him,band it was. He gave us a cheery wave, and looked absolutely delighted with the experience of being Alan Titchmarsh

    He’s a very nice man
    Pound shop Alan Partridge.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,415

    Leon said:

    I got a free ticket to an NBA match tonight. The Portland Whatevers versus the Derrtown Dontgiveafucks

    Amazingly, professional American basketball is EVEN WORSE than professional American football, as a sport and as a spectacle. It is utterly dismal. Only cretins or toddlers like this shit

    One team of genetic freaks run to the left.

    They score.

    The other team of genetic freaks run to the right.

    They score.

    Repeat ad nauseum.
    Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,415

    Cookie said:

    geoffw said:

    My sister was at a school parents' meeting chatting amicably with another mother only to be told by someone else later that the other mother was Madonna

    Given how much work she has had done I am not sure I would recognise her.
    I often see people who I think look a bit like XX and only later realise it probably was XX. Ben Fogle art a cafe on the A82 for instance.
    I once overtook Alan Titchmarsh on the M5. He was driving a Rolls Royce with a personliases registration plate which strongly indicated his keenness on gardening. "I bet that's Alan Titchmarsh," my friend said, not entirely seriously. And we passed him,band it was. He gave us a cheery wave, and looked absolutely delighted with the experience of being Alan Titchmarsh

    He’s a very nice man
    He lives less than 200 yards from me.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 45,530
    Temu Stahlhelm Tommeh finally harpooned a grifter’s whale.

    https://x.com/peterjukes/status/1978026967732564299?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 31,205

    How thousands of Gordon Brown’s child trust funds completely lost their worth
    Baby bonds were supposed to be a ‘real financial asset’ for children turning 18. What happened?
    ...
    About 210,000 accounts now contain £499 or less, official figures show, after the nest eggs were automatically handed to City firms that charged sky-high annual fees.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/banking/savings-accounts/thousands-gordon-brown-child-trust-funds-lost-worth/ (£££)

    I don't read the Morongraph, but would I be right to assume they are blaming Brown for this? For the Tories handing control to their spiv owners to asset strip these funds?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,330

    NEW THREAD

  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,515

    How thousands of Gordon Brown’s child trust funds completely lost their worth
    Baby bonds were supposed to be a ‘real financial asset’ for children turning 18. What happened?
    ...
    About 210,000 accounts now contain £499 or less, official figures show, after the nest eggs were automatically handed to City firms that charged sky-high annual fees.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/banking/savings-accounts/thousands-gordon-brown-child-trust-funds-lost-worth/ (£££)

    Typical government screwup.

    They could have put 1/3 in bonds, 1/3 on the FTSE, and 1/3 on the S&P, and seen quite the return over time. Would have needed about three civil servants managing the project.

    Of course, not as much of a return as putting the lot on the S&P, but that would be considered not British.
  • eekeek Posts: 31,503

    How thousands of Gordon Brown’s child trust funds completely lost their worth
    Baby bonds were supposed to be a ‘real financial asset’ for children turning 18. What happened?
    ...
    About 210,000 accounts now contain £499 or less, official figures show, after the nest eggs were automatically handed to City firms that charged sky-high annual fees.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/banking/savings-accounts/thousands-gordon-brown-child-trust-funds-lost-worth/ (£££)

    I don't read the Morongraph, but would I be right to assume they are blaming Brown for this? For the Tories handing control to their spiv owners to asset strip these funds?
    They (the Telegraph) are also blaming Labour for Fenwick on Bond Street being empty. That is a building sold in 2022 for an £430m where the shop closed in February 2024 and is being quickly (by London standards) being converted into (fully let) offices and shops on the ground floor...

    Got to say every time I walk down Bond Street I don't see the empty unlet shops that exist on Oxford Street..
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