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  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,416
    eek said:

    Foss said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    The problem is not the gross expenditure, as such. The big issue is the incestuous nature of the spend.

    Nvidia went up cos OpenAI ordered loads of cards. OpenAI went up cos they got another round of funding, from Nvidia...
    OpenAI's value just jumped as they've arranged to buy 10% of AMD at a penny a share.
    AMD's share price went up by 23% because of the number of GPUs OpenAI are buying from AMD

    But the problem is that OpenAI have committed to spending a trillion on chips & data centres for data centres that don't exist, requiring power that will take even longer to create and spending investors money that also doesn't seem to exist.

    Which wouldn't be so funny if I could see a product that people were actually buying in quantities to justify the investment (and they really won't).

    Meanwhile tomorrow I know I've got 3 AI generated solutions that are actually based on broken fundamentals - which means I'm going to waste hours explaining the flaws at a simple enough level that management will understand...
    I spent several hours this morning 'fixing' access to some servers for a remote developer in India. They put in a VPN ticket cos they said it wasn't working. It wasn't working cos they were trying to reach servers that were decommissioned 2 years ago. They also put in a firewall request to get to the 'right' servers from a terminal server. They put the wrong terminal server in that request.

    The question from my management today; "Can we automate this?"

    Ummm.......
  • TimSTimS Posts: 16,253

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    National Union of Pensioners is one of the best case studies of collective bargaining out there.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,130
    edited 4:44PM
    Truss v Jenrick.

    Narrator: When Liz Truss was Prime Minister the Tories polled as low as 14%

    I see @RobertJenrick has been saying the Mini-Budget was unconservative.

    What’s really dishonest and unconservative is driving wealth creators and successful companies out of the country with tax rises that actually end up increasing the country's debt.

    This is exactly what the policies pursued by Rishi Sunak and Rachel Reeves have done.

    Rob is a self-styled critic of the Blairite establishment but has completely failed to take on their false narrative about 2022 or mention the role of the Bank of England. The Bank admit two thirds of the gilt spike was down to their failures on pensions oversight.

    Until the Conservative Party is honest about what happened in 2022, they are destined to remain at 16 percent in the polls.


    https://x.com/trussliz/status/1975229735450894615
  • eekeek Posts: 31,449
    edited 4:45PM
    Scott_xP said:

    eek said:

    Foss said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    The problem is not the gross expenditure, as such. The big issue is the incestuous nature of the spend.

    Nvidia went up cos OpenAI ordered loads of cards. OpenAI went up cos they got another round of funding, from Nvidia...
    OpenAI's value just jumped as they've arranged to buy 10% of AMD at a penny a share.
    AMD's share price went up by 23% because of the number of GPUs OpenAI are buying from AMD

    But the problem is that OpenAI have committed to spending a trillion on chips & data centres for data centres that don't exist, requiring power that will take even longer to create and spending investors money that also doesn't seem to exist.

    Which wouldn't be so funny if I could see a product that people were actually buying in quantities to justify the investment (and they really won't).

    Meanwhile tomorrow I know I've got 3 AI generated solutions that are actually based on broken fundamentals - which means I'm going to waste hours explaining the flaws at a simple enough level that management will understand...
    I spent several hours this morning 'fixing' access to some servers for a remote developer in India. They put in a VPN ticket cos they said it wasn't working. It wasn't working cos they were trying to reach servers that were decommissioned 2 years ago. They also put in a firewall request to get to the 'right' servers from a terminal server. They put the wrong terminal server in that request.

    The question from my management today; "Can we automate this?"

    Ummm.......
    Don't - we were supposed to have a production release on September 15th. I said on the 10th it wasn't in a state to go live.

    It finally went live on September 29th (when I was away on holiday, thankfully) - without the release approval paperwork being done or downtime confirmed.

  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,680

    boulay said:

    I’m surprised this is only happening now as there have long been questions and people alledging things.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/oct/06/tax-authorities-nigel-farage-hmrc-reform-uk-george-cottrell

    Why would HMRC be concerned by someone writing a book called "How to Launder Money"?

    Two tier Keir justice!
    To be fair, I have written a report/guide at work entitled 'How to launder money'.

    It's basically guide on spotting how to spot the red flags and how not fall foul of AML regulations.
    Presumably you don't have a conviction for wire fraud for advertising ML services on the dark web though?

    HMRC curiosity seems to be around days/year in the UK, Cottrell takes private flights and .... https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/business-aviation/2024-03-27/inspector-criticizes-uk-private-aviation-security-checks so HMRC will probably remain curious
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,416
    @forgebitz

    i changed all our "loading..." states to "thinking.."

    we are an agentic AI startup now
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,416
    eek said:

    Scott_xP said:

    eek said:

    Foss said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    The problem is not the gross expenditure, as such. The big issue is the incestuous nature of the spend.

    Nvidia went up cos OpenAI ordered loads of cards. OpenAI went up cos they got another round of funding, from Nvidia...
    OpenAI's value just jumped as they've arranged to buy 10% of AMD at a penny a share.
    AMD's share price went up by 23% because of the number of GPUs OpenAI are buying from AMD

    But the problem is that OpenAI have committed to spending a trillion on chips & data centres for data centres that don't exist, requiring power that will take even longer to create and spending investors money that also doesn't seem to exist.

    Which wouldn't be so funny if I could see a product that people were actually buying in quantities to justify the investment (and they really won't).

    Meanwhile tomorrow I know I've got 3 AI generated solutions that are actually based on broken fundamentals - which means I'm going to waste hours explaining the flaws at a simple enough level that management will understand...
    I spent several hours this morning 'fixing' access to some servers for a remote developer in India. They put in a VPN ticket cos they said it wasn't working. It wasn't working cos they were trying to reach servers that were decommissioned 2 years ago. They also put in a firewall request to get to the 'right' servers from a terminal server. They put the wrong terminal server in that request.

    The question from my management today; "Can we automate this?"

    Ummm.......
    Don't - we were supposed to have a production release on September 15th. I said on the 10th it wasn't in a state to go live.

    It finally went live on September 29th (when I was away on holiday, thankfully) - without the release approval paperwork being done or downtime confirmed.

    Oh, we are also in a change freeze...
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 57,239
    Scott_xP said:

    eek said:

    Foss said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    The problem is not the gross expenditure, as such. The big issue is the incestuous nature of the spend.

    Nvidia went up cos OpenAI ordered loads of cards. OpenAI went up cos they got another round of funding, from Nvidia...
    OpenAI's value just jumped as they've arranged to buy 10% of AMD at a penny a share.
    AMD's share price went up by 23% because of the number of GPUs OpenAI are buying from AMD

    But the problem is that OpenAI have committed to spending a trillion on chips & data centres for data centres that don't exist, requiring power that will take even longer to create and spending investors money that also doesn't seem to exist.

    Which wouldn't be so funny if I could see a product that people were actually buying in quantities to justify the investment (and they really won't).

    Meanwhile tomorrow I know I've got 3 AI generated solutions that are actually based on broken fundamentals - which means I'm going to waste hours explaining the flaws at a simple enough level that management will understand...
    I spent several hours this morning 'fixing' access to some servers for a remote developer in India. They put in a VPN ticket cos they said it wasn't working. It wasn't working cos they were trying to reach servers that were decommissioned 2 years ago. They also put in a firewall request to get to the 'right' servers from a terminal server. They put the wrong terminal server in that request.

    The question from my management today; "Can we automate this?"

    Ummm.......
    Automate closing tickets raised by India, with no action required?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,042
    So the world is turning right wing and authoritarian, including the left wing/libertarian parties, the Chinese are scheduling a war for 2027, and all is conflict and not-nice stuff

    Still. They seem to have sorted out the Predator franchise. So Yay for that. Here's the latest trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDL3Zjdz514
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,130
    Dopermean said:

    boulay said:

    I’m surprised this is only happening now as there have long been questions and people alledging things.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/oct/06/tax-authorities-nigel-farage-hmrc-reform-uk-george-cottrell

    Why would HMRC be concerned by someone writing a book called "How to Launder Money"?

    Two tier Keir justice!
    To be fair, I have written a report/guide at work entitled 'How to launder money'.

    It's basically guide on spotting how to spot the red flags and how not fall foul of AML regulations.
    Presumably you don't have a conviction for wire fraud for advertising ML services on the dark web though?

    HMRC curiosity seems to be around days/year in the UK, Cottrell takes private flights and .... https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/business-aviation/2024-03-27/inspector-criticizes-uk-private-aviation-security-checks so HMRC will probably remain curious
    I may have a conviction for wire and mail fraud.

    A few years ago somebody sent an email to my work address saying if I didn't pay them $10,000 within 48 hours I would end up with said convictions.

    I didn't pay them the $10,000 so....
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 130,589

    Truss v Jenrick.

    Narrator: When Liz Truss was Prime Minister the Tories polled as low as 14%

    I see @RobertJenrick has been saying the Mini-Budget was unconservative.

    What’s really dishonest and unconservative is driving wealth creators and successful companies out of the country with tax rises that actually end up increasing the country's debt.

    This is exactly what the policies pursued by Rishi Sunak and Rachel Reeves have done.

    Rob is a self-styled critic of the Blairite establishment but has completely failed to take on their false narrative about 2022 or mention the role of the Bank of England. The Bank admit two thirds of the gilt spike was down to their failures on pensions oversight.

    Until the Conservative Party is honest about what happened in 2022, they are destined to remain at 16 percent in the polls.


    https://x.com/trussliz/status/1975229735450894615

    Truss' problem was she cut tax but not spending as well
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,042
    rcs1000 said:
    Somehow, Heseltine returned...
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 26,128
    Well its not Starmer. /BJO
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,914
    HYUFD said:

    Technically half of Conservative members do not want Badenoch to lead them into the general election. 46% may want Jenrick to lead them but that is little higher than the share he got when Badenoch beat him in the members ballot for leader last year.

    If Kemi went Tory MPs would instead likely crown Cleverly as leader. They will have noted yesterday's Telegraph poll too which had Jenrick performing worse head to head against Farage than Badenoch and Cleverly. Jenrick is a possible option to succeed Farage as leader of the populist right at the general election after next but not to lead the Tories to take on Farage at the next general election

    Doesn't it have to go to a members' vote if there's more than one candidate?
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,821
    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    eek said:

    Foss said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    The problem is not the gross expenditure, as such. The big issue is the incestuous nature of the spend.

    Nvidia went up cos OpenAI ordered loads of cards. OpenAI went up cos they got another round of funding, from Nvidia...
    OpenAI's value just jumped as they've arranged to buy 10% of AMD at a penny a share.
    AMD's share price went up by 23% because of the number of GPUs OpenAI are buying from AMD

    But the problem is that OpenAI have committed to spending a trillion on chips & data centres for data centres that don't exist, requiring power that will take even longer to create and spending investors money that also doesn't seem to exist.

    Which wouldn't be so funny if I could see a product that people were actually buying in quantities to justify the investment (and they really won't).

    Meanwhile tomorrow I know I've got 3 AI generated solutions that are actually based on broken fundamentals - which means I'm going to waste hours explaining the flaws at a simple enough level that management will understand...
    I spent several hours this morning 'fixing' access to some servers for a remote developer in India. They put in a VPN ticket cos they said it wasn't working. It wasn't working cos they were trying to reach servers that were decommissioned 2 years ago. They also put in a firewall request to get to the 'right' servers from a terminal server. They put the wrong terminal server in that request.

    The question from my management today; "Can we automate this?"

    Ummm.......
    Automate closing tickets raised by India, with no action required?
    It'd only level the playing field, tbh.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,317
    Andy_JS said:

    HYUFD said:

    Technically half of Conservative members do not want Badenoch to lead them into the general election. 46% may want Jenrick to lead them but that is little higher than the share he got when Badenoch beat him in the members ballot for leader last year.

    If Kemi went Tory MPs would instead likely crown Cleverly as leader. They will have noted yesterday's Telegraph poll too which had Jenrick performing worse head to head against Farage than Badenoch and Cleverly. Jenrick is a possible option to succeed Farage as leader of the populist right at the general election after next but not to lead the Tories to take on Farage at the next general election

    Doesn't it have to go to a members' vote if there's more than one candidate?
    Yes, it does and I can't see Jenrick standing aside in such circumstances and why should he?

    So I'm very sceptical about an MPs' coronation Michael Howard style.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,768
    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    eek said:

    Foss said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    The problem is not the gross expenditure, as such. The big issue is the incestuous nature of the spend.

    Nvidia went up cos OpenAI ordered loads of cards. OpenAI went up cos they got another round of funding, from Nvidia...
    OpenAI's value just jumped as they've arranged to buy 10% of AMD at a penny a share.
    AMD's share price went up by 23% because of the number of GPUs OpenAI are buying from AMD

    But the problem is that OpenAI have committed to spending a trillion on chips & data centres for data centres that don't exist, requiring power that will take even longer to create and spending investors money that also doesn't seem to exist.

    Which wouldn't be so funny if I could see a product that people were actually buying in quantities to justify the investment (and they really won't).

    Meanwhile tomorrow I know I've got 3 AI generated solutions that are actually based on broken fundamentals - which means I'm going to waste hours explaining the flaws at a simple enough level that management will understand...
    I spent several hours this morning 'fixing' access to some servers for a remote developer in India. They put in a VPN ticket cos they said it wasn't working. It wasn't working cos they were trying to reach servers that were decommissioned 2 years ago. They also put in a firewall request to get to the 'right' servers from a terminal server. They put the wrong terminal server in that request.

    The question from my management today; "Can we automate this?"

    Ummm.......
    Automate closing tickets raised by India, with no action required?
    You know, there are some really good Indian developers. It's just that they tend to come to the US on H1(B) visas, leaving their less... less... ambitious colleragues back in Kerala or Bangalore.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,768
    eek said:

    Foss said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    The problem is not the gross expenditure, as such. The big issue is the incestuous nature of the spend.

    Nvidia went up cos OpenAI ordered loads of cards. OpenAI went up cos they got another round of funding, from Nvidia...
    OpenAI's value just jumped as they've arranged to buy 10% of AMD at a penny a share.
    AMD's share price went up by 23% because of the number of GPUs OpenAI are buying from AMD

    But the problem is that OpenAI have committed to spending a trillion on chips & data centres for data centres that don't exist, requiring power that will take even longer to create and spending investors money that also doesn't seem to exist.

    Which wouldn't be so funny if I could see a product that people were actually buying in quantities to justify the investment (and they really won't).

    Meanwhile tomorrow I know I've got 3 AI generated solutions that are actually based on broken fundamentals - which means I'm going to waste hours explaining the flaws at a simple enough level that management will understand...
    Can't you ask AI to explain the flaws?
  • eekeek Posts: 31,449
    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    eek said:

    Foss said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    The problem is not the gross expenditure, as such. The big issue is the incestuous nature of the spend.

    Nvidia went up cos OpenAI ordered loads of cards. OpenAI went up cos they got another round of funding, from Nvidia...
    OpenAI's value just jumped as they've arranged to buy 10% of AMD at a penny a share.
    AMD's share price went up by 23% because of the number of GPUs OpenAI are buying from AMD

    But the problem is that OpenAI have committed to spending a trillion on chips & data centres for data centres that don't exist, requiring power that will take even longer to create and spending investors money that also doesn't seem to exist.

    Which wouldn't be so funny if I could see a product that people were actually buying in quantities to justify the investment (and they really won't).

    Meanwhile tomorrow I know I've got 3 AI generated solutions that are actually based on broken fundamentals - which means I'm going to waste hours explaining the flaws at a simple enough level that management will understand...
    I spent several hours this morning 'fixing' access to some servers for a remote developer in India. They put in a VPN ticket cos they said it wasn't working. It wasn't working cos they were trying to reach servers that were decommissioned 2 years ago. They also put in a firewall request to get to the 'right' servers from a terminal server. They put the wrong terminal server in that request.

    The question from my management today; "Can we automate this?"

    Ummm.......
    Automate closing tickets raised by India, with no action required?
    You know, there are some really good Indian developers. It's just that they tend to come to the US on H1(B) visas, leaving their less... less... ambitious colleragues back in Kerala or Bangalore.
    There are actually some really good Indian developers in India - but all the ones I know are now very high up in the India offices of the none Indian outsourcing firms.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 47,675
    One for @Richard_Tyndall ; or for anyone who still hates the metric system:

    "Oilfield Units: a Measurement System so Cursed it made me Change Career"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdWEGzWFcCc
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,109
    JohnO said:

    Andy_JS said:

    HYUFD said:

    Technically half of Conservative members do not want Badenoch to lead them into the general election. 46% may want Jenrick to lead them but that is little higher than the share he got when Badenoch beat him in the members ballot for leader last year.

    If Kemi went Tory MPs would instead likely crown Cleverly as leader. They will have noted yesterday's Telegraph poll too which had Jenrick performing worse head to head against Farage than Badenoch and Cleverly. Jenrick is a possible option to succeed Farage as leader of the populist right at the general election after next but not to lead the Tories to take on Farage at the next general election

    Doesn't it have to go to a members' vote if there's more than one candidate?
    Yes, it does and I can't see Jenrick standing aside in such circumstances and why should he?

    So I'm very sceptical about an MPs' coronation Michael Howard style.
    Howard was the only broadly-tolerable candidate left by then, and the job was so obviously probably a Luftwaffe-tail-gunner gig that it wasn't that attractive. (See also Sunak 2022 and Starmer 2020, except the latter nincompoop went and spoiled it by winning the GE.)

    Jenrick, for reasons that defy human reasoning, seems to actually want the job of Conservative leader.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 47,675
    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    eek said:

    Foss said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    The problem is not the gross expenditure, as such. The big issue is the incestuous nature of the spend.

    Nvidia went up cos OpenAI ordered loads of cards. OpenAI went up cos they got another round of funding, from Nvidia...
    OpenAI's value just jumped as they've arranged to buy 10% of AMD at a penny a share.
    AMD's share price went up by 23% because of the number of GPUs OpenAI are buying from AMD

    But the problem is that OpenAI have committed to spending a trillion on chips & data centres for data centres that don't exist, requiring power that will take even longer to create and spending investors money that also doesn't seem to exist.

    Which wouldn't be so funny if I could see a product that people were actually buying in quantities to justify the investment (and they really won't).

    Meanwhile tomorrow I know I've got 3 AI generated solutions that are actually based on broken fundamentals - which means I'm going to waste hours explaining the flaws at a simple enough level that management will understand...
    I spent several hours this morning 'fixing' access to some servers for a remote developer in India. They put in a VPN ticket cos they said it wasn't working. It wasn't working cos they were trying to reach servers that were decommissioned 2 years ago. They also put in a firewall request to get to the 'right' servers from a terminal server. They put the wrong terminal server in that request.

    The question from my management today; "Can we automate this?"

    Ummm.......
    Automate closing tickets raised by India, with no action required?
    You know, there are some really good Indian developers. It's just that they tend to come to the US on H1(B) visas, leaving their less... less... ambitious colleragues back in Kerala or Bangalore.
    From my limited experience, and from what others have told me, Indian developers anywhere outside India are generally very good (*). Indian developers in India are ... less brilliant. This makes me wonder if it's a problem of culture in the Indian businesses. Those who can get out of that culture shine. Or only the great ones manage to get out...

    (*) And IME great people.
  • eekeek Posts: 31,449
    A story I think TSE will appreciate....

    In recent weeks, stung by criticism that she
    was aloof from her MPs, Badenoch has
    begun inviting in small groups for lunch.
    Well, platters of shop-bought sandwiches.

    When I pointed out to one invitee that
    Badenoch famously declared last year that
    she hated sandwiches (in line with just 1%
    of the British public), they replied "oh no,
    the MPs had sandwiches, Kemi had
    something hot brought in".

    https://bsky.app/profile/michaeljsc.bsky.social/post/3m2jhne5dpc2h
  • eekeek Posts: 31,449

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    eek said:

    Foss said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    The problem is not the gross expenditure, as such. The big issue is the incestuous nature of the spend.

    Nvidia went up cos OpenAI ordered loads of cards. OpenAI went up cos they got another round of funding, from Nvidia...
    OpenAI's value just jumped as they've arranged to buy 10% of AMD at a penny a share.
    AMD's share price went up by 23% because of the number of GPUs OpenAI are buying from AMD

    But the problem is that OpenAI have committed to spending a trillion on chips & data centres for data centres that don't exist, requiring power that will take even longer to create and spending investors money that also doesn't seem to exist.

    Which wouldn't be so funny if I could see a product that people were actually buying in quantities to justify the investment (and they really won't).

    Meanwhile tomorrow I know I've got 3 AI generated solutions that are actually based on broken fundamentals - which means I'm going to waste hours explaining the flaws at a simple enough level that management will understand...
    I spent several hours this morning 'fixing' access to some servers for a remote developer in India. They put in a VPN ticket cos they said it wasn't working. It wasn't working cos they were trying to reach servers that were decommissioned 2 years ago. They also put in a firewall request to get to the 'right' servers from a terminal server. They put the wrong terminal server in that request.

    The question from my management today; "Can we automate this?"

    Ummm.......
    Automate closing tickets raised by India, with no action required?
    You know, there are some really good Indian developers. It's just that they tend to come to the US on H1(B) visas, leaving their less... less... ambitious colleragues back in Kerala or Bangalore.
    From my limited experience, and from what others have told me, Indian developers anywhere outside India are generally very good (*). Indian developers in India are ... less brilliant. This makes me wonder if it's a problem of culture in the Indian businesses. Those who can get out of that culture shine. Or only the great ones manage to get out...

    (*) And IME great people.
    Once employed it's very hard to get rid of Indian workers. Hence for every good one you get they dump a few bad ones on you..
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,130
    eek said:

    A story I think TSE will appreciate....

    In recent weeks, stung by criticism that she
    was aloof from her MPs, Badenoch has
    begun inviting in small groups for lunch.
    Well, platters of shop-bought sandwiches.

    When I pointed out to one invitee that
    Badenoch famously declared last year that
    she hated sandwiches (in line with just 1%
    of the British public), they replied "oh no,
    the MPs had sandwiches, Kemi had
    something hot brought in".

    https://bsky.app/profile/michaeljsc.bsky.social/post/3m2jhne5dpc2h

    Reminds me of the time a guy who was going to America had a first class seat, but after booking he started a relationship, and took his new girlfriend on the trip but booked her in standard class on the same flight.

    Astonishingly the relationship didn't last long after that trip to America.
  • TazTaz Posts: 21,291
    Green PPB. Very Corbynite. ‘Wealth tax now’ stuff.

  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,416
    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    eek said:

    Foss said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    The problem is not the gross expenditure, as such. The big issue is the incestuous nature of the spend.

    Nvidia went up cos OpenAI ordered loads of cards. OpenAI went up cos they got another round of funding, from Nvidia...
    OpenAI's value just jumped as they've arranged to buy 10% of AMD at a penny a share.
    AMD's share price went up by 23% because of the number of GPUs OpenAI are buying from AMD

    But the problem is that OpenAI have committed to spending a trillion on chips & data centres for data centres that don't exist, requiring power that will take even longer to create and spending investors money that also doesn't seem to exist.

    Which wouldn't be so funny if I could see a product that people were actually buying in quantities to justify the investment (and they really won't).

    Meanwhile tomorrow I know I've got 3 AI generated solutions that are actually based on broken fundamentals - which means I'm going to waste hours explaining the flaws at a simple enough level that management will understand...
    I spent several hours this morning 'fixing' access to some servers for a remote developer in India. They put in a VPN ticket cos they said it wasn't working. It wasn't working cos they were trying to reach servers that were decommissioned 2 years ago. They also put in a firewall request to get to the 'right' servers from a terminal server. They put the wrong terminal server in that request.

    The question from my management today; "Can we automate this?"

    Ummm.......
    Automate closing tickets raised by India, with no action required?
    I also had 2 senior managers in 2 different countries calling me asking why it wasn't working...
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 31,129
    Taz said:

    Green PPB. Very Corbynite. ‘Wealth tax now’ stuff.

    Advance: Combat 18
    Reform UK: National Front
    Tories: a smeared fly on a windscreen
    Labour - One Nation Conservatives
    LibDems - Blairite Labour
    Greens - Millibandite Labour
    YourParty - continuity Corbyn
  • eek said:

    Foss said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    The problem is not the gross expenditure, as such. The big issue is the incestuous nature of the spend.

    Nvidia went up cos OpenAI ordered loads of cards. OpenAI went up cos they got another round of funding, from Nvidia...
    OpenAI's value just jumped as they've arranged to buy 10% of AMD at a penny a share.
    AMD's share price went up by 23% because of the number of GPUs OpenAI are buying from AMD

    But the problem is that OpenAI have committed to spending a trillion on chips & data centres for data centres that don't exist, requiring power that will take even longer to create and spending investors money that also doesn't seem to exist.

    Which wouldn't be so funny if I could see a product that people were actually buying in quantities to justify the investment (and they really won't).
    For a good while now it's been obvious to anyone not wrapped up in the hype that AI is never going to produce a return on the incredible sums sunk into it, and I fear the sheer gargantuan amount of cash invested means the bubble will do real economic damage when it bursts. Anyone who buys shares in LLM vendors like OpenAI will get burned in the long-term.

    Ditto Nvidia, which is going to go south quickly when demand for AI hardware dries up and the existing stuff ends up on Ebay at firesale prices. It'll be like the crypto mining collapse, only orders of magnitude more severe.

    On the positive side AI image and video generation and editing is absolutely going to be a nice revenue source. No more needing to be a photoshop expert to do professional quality image editing, just explain in english to an editing model like Qwen and it'll do the job for you. The quality these models can generate on even fairly modest hardware is impressive, and improving almost on a weekly basis.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,316
    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    ·
    1h
    Democrats hold a 4 point lead in 2026 generic ballots.

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian/status/1975234069832368281
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,905

    One for @Richard_Tyndall ; or for anyone who still hates the metric system:

    "Oilfield Units: a Measurement System so Cursed it made me Change Career"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdWEGzWFcCc

    Omg, I remember these from when I worked in Schlumberger in Aberdeen
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 34,857

    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    ·
    1h
    Democrats hold a 4 point lead in 2026 generic ballots.

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian/status/1975234069832368281

    That is piss poor considering Trump has crashed the World.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,313
    HYUFD said:

    kinabalu said:

    The party is a long way from him now. I wonder if a big charismatic One Nationer could wrench it back. Probably not.
    Two problems.

    First, the lightbulb party has to want to change, and it doesn't. Not towards centrism, anyway.

    Second, there needs to be a big One Nationer, and I'm not convinced there is.
    Boris said he was a Brexity Hezza
    Hezza said he was a Remainery Boris

    (not really)
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,289
    Think there should be a "wiped out" option in the poll.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,523

    eek said:

    Foss said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    The problem is not the gross expenditure, as such. The big issue is the incestuous nature of the spend.

    Nvidia went up cos OpenAI ordered loads of cards. OpenAI went up cos they got another round of funding, from Nvidia...
    OpenAI's value just jumped as they've arranged to buy 10% of AMD at a penny a share.
    AMD's share price went up by 23% because of the number of GPUs OpenAI are buying from AMD

    But the problem is that OpenAI have committed to spending a trillion on chips & data centres for data centres that don't exist, requiring power that will take even longer to create and spending investors money that also doesn't seem to exist.

    Which wouldn't be so funny if I could see a product that people were actually buying in quantities to justify the investment (and they really won't).
    For a good while now it's been obvious to anyone not wrapped up in the hype that AI is never going to produce a return on the incredible sums sunk into it, and I fear the sheer gargantuan amount of cash invested means the bubble will do real economic damage when it bursts. Anyone who buys shares in LLM vendors like OpenAI will get burned in the long-term.

    Ditto Nvidia, which is going to go south quickly when demand for AI hardware dries up and the existing stuff ends up on Ebay at firesale prices. It'll be like the crypto mining collapse, only orders of magnitude more severe.

    On the positive side AI image and video generation and editing is absolutely going to be a nice revenue source. No more needing to be a photoshop expert to do professional quality image editing, just explain in english to an editing model like Qwen and it'll do the job for you. The quality these models can generate on even fairly modest hardware is impressive, and improving almost on a weekly basis.
    That's pretty much how I see it. AI is going to change our economy radically but it is not free. The energy requirements are massive. The capital costs are ridiculous. The upside of of monetising this is huge but it is not necessarily huge compared to the capital and the energy needed. There will be some winners and they will be spectacular but there will be a lot of losers. It vaguely reminds me of the early chaos of railway boom nearly 200 years ago. So much investment. So few winners. But wow, those winners.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,416
    Karoline Leavitt just said "untethered in reality and the law" in a press conference

    That should be the tagline for the whole administration
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,313

    Taz said:

    Green PPB. Very Corbynite. ‘Wealth tax now’ stuff.

    Advance: Combat 18
    Reform UK: National Front
    Tories: a smeared fly on a windscreen
    Labour - One Nation Conservatives
    LibDems - Blairite Labour
    Greens - Millibandite Labour
    YourParty - continuity Corbyn
    Labour are not One Nation Conservatives.

    Not even close.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,197
    HYUFD said:

    Truss v Jenrick.

    Narrator: When Liz Truss was Prime Minister the Tories polled as low as 14%

    I see @RobertJenrick has been saying the Mini-Budget was unconservative.

    What’s really dishonest and unconservative is driving wealth creators and successful companies out of the country with tax rises that actually end up increasing the country's debt.

    This is exactly what the policies pursued by Rishi Sunak and Rachel Reeves have done.

    Rob is a self-styled critic of the Blairite establishment but has completely failed to take on their false narrative about 2022 or mention the role of the Bank of England. The Bank admit two thirds of the gilt spike was down to their failures on pensions oversight.

    Until the Conservative Party is honest about what happened in 2022, they are destined to remain at 16 percent in the polls.


    https://x.com/trussliz/status/1975229735450894615

    Truss' problem was she cut tax but not spending as well
    Truss's real problem was that she conspicuously sidelined the watchdogs at the Bank, Treasury and OBR, so the markets panicked that she must be hiding something really big and really bad. After that, any funding gap was bound to, well, the rest is history. That is why Reeves is always waiting for OBR approval despite their terrible record.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 130,589

    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    ·
    1h
    Democrats hold a 4 point lead in 2026 generic ballots.

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian/status/1975234069832368281

    That is piss poor considering Trump has crashed the World.
    He has just brought peace to the Middle East apparently.

    A 4 point lead should still see the Democrats retake Congress next year but it could be close
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 34,857

    Taz said:

    Green PPB. Very Corbynite. ‘Wealth tax now’ stuff.

    Advance: Combat 18
    Reform UK: National Front
    Tories: a smeared fly on a windscreen
    Labour - One Nation Conservatives
    LibDems - Blairite Labour
    Greens - Millibandite Labour
    YourParty - continuity Corbyn
    Labour are not One Nation Conservatives.

    Not even close.
    Calm Down Dear. It was a joke.

    They are far too right wing to be One Nation Conservatives.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,197
    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    eek said:

    Foss said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    The problem is not the gross expenditure, as such. The big issue is the incestuous nature of the spend.

    Nvidia went up cos OpenAI ordered loads of cards. OpenAI went up cos they got another round of funding, from Nvidia...
    OpenAI's value just jumped as they've arranged to buy 10% of AMD at a penny a share.
    AMD's share price went up by 23% because of the number of GPUs OpenAI are buying from AMD

    But the problem is that OpenAI have committed to spending a trillion on chips & data centres for data centres that don't exist, requiring power that will take even longer to create and spending investors money that also doesn't seem to exist.

    Which wouldn't be so funny if I could see a product that people were actually buying in quantities to justify the investment (and they really won't).

    Meanwhile tomorrow I know I've got 3 AI generated solutions that are actually based on broken fundamentals - which means I'm going to waste hours explaining the flaws at a simple enough level that management will understand...
    I spent several hours this morning 'fixing' access to some servers for a remote developer in India. They put in a VPN ticket cos they said it wasn't working. It wasn't working cos they were trying to reach servers that were decommissioned 2 years ago. They also put in a firewall request to get to the 'right' servers from a terminal server. They put the wrong terminal server in that request.

    The question from my management today; "Can we automate this?"

    Ummm.......
    Automate closing tickets raised by India, with no action required?
    You know, there are some really good Indian developers. It's just that they tend to come to the US on H1(B) visas, leaving their less... less... ambitious colleragues back in Kerala or Bangalore.
    From my limited experience, and from what others have told me, Indian developers anywhere outside India are generally very good (*). Indian developers in India are ... less brilliant. This makes me wonder if it's a problem of culture in the Indian businesses. Those who can get out of that culture shine. Or only the great ones manage to get out...

    (*) And IME great people.
    Once employed it's very hard to get rid of Indian workers. Hence for every good one you get they dump a few bad ones on you..
    Sometimes it's the basics. A lot of companies go into India wanting to pay as little as they can get away with. My own international megacorp employer did that. After doing six to 18 months to get our big name on their cv, the good ones jumped ship. Only when we started paying better did things improve and by that time the director who sold the board on ‘labor [sic] arbitrage’ had found something else to screw up.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 130,589
    edited 5:58PM

    JohnO said:

    Andy_JS said:

    HYUFD said:

    Technically half of Conservative members do not want Badenoch to lead them into the general election. 46% may want Jenrick to lead them but that is little higher than the share he got when Badenoch beat him in the members ballot for leader last year.

    If Kemi went Tory MPs would instead likely crown Cleverly as leader. They will have noted yesterday's Telegraph poll too which had Jenrick performing worse head to head against Farage than Badenoch and Cleverly. Jenrick is a possible option to succeed Farage as leader of the populist right at the general election after next but not to lead the Tories to take on Farage at the next general election

    Doesn't it have to go to a members' vote if there's more than one candidate?
    Yes, it does and I can't see Jenrick standing aside in such circumstances and why should he?

    So I'm very sceptical about an MPs' coronation Michael Howard style.
    Howard was the only broadly-tolerable candidate left by then, and the job was so obviously probably a Luftwaffe-tail-gunner gig that it wasn't that attractive. (See also Sunak 2022 and Starmer 2020, except the latter nincompoop went and spoiled it by winning the GE.)

    Jenrick, for reasons that defy human reasoning, seems to actually want the job of Conservative leader.
    No David Davis wanted it as did Ken Clarke still but Howard got the backing of ex IDS and ex Portilllo backing MPs to ensure enough for a coronation.

    I suspect the 1922 would anoint Cleverly if 2/3 of Tory MPs back him and if it is
    Jenrick and his supporters who bring about the VONC to topple Kemi, then Cleverly could likely get that with support from his 2024 backers and former Kemi supporting MPs
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 45,439

    eek said:

    A story I think TSE will appreciate....

    In recent weeks, stung by criticism that she
    was aloof from her MPs, Badenoch has
    begun inviting in small groups for lunch.
    Well, platters of shop-bought sandwiches.

    When I pointed out to one invitee that
    Badenoch famously declared last year that
    she hated sandwiches (in line with just 1%
    of the British public), they replied "oh no,
    the MPs had sandwiches, Kemi had
    something hot brought in".

    https://bsky.app/profile/michaeljsc.bsky.social/post/3m2jhne5dpc2h

    Reminds me of the time a guy who was going to America had a first class seat, but after booking he started a relationship, and took his new girlfriend on the trip but booked her in standard class on the same flight.

    Astonishingly the relationship didn't last long after that trip to America.
    Wasn’t there a story about Heath after a long evening with his team having a tasty late supper served to him but nothing for them?
    Unlikely as it seems perhaps Heath is the closest comparator to Kemi; prickly, humourless, bad at the talking human stuff. Ted of course did nevertheless manage to win elections..
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,672
    TimS said:

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    National Union of Pensioners is one of the best case studies of collective bargaining out there.
    This is a party that’s content to live out its remaining years, before dying, and unbothered about attracting new generations of supporters.
  • theProletheProle Posts: 1,486

    You have to make a positive choice to attend a Welsh-medium school and have Maths/Science/Whatever lessons in Welsh.

    I can understand people thinking it would be a bit daft to have a child learn Welsh for only a year or two, but it wouldn't disrupt their education in other subjects.

    That's the official line, but not the reality.

    The primary system in Gwynedd is Welsh only, if you enter it as an English speaker you get a term in an intensive Welsh language unit. The secondary system is supposedly bilingual, but the reality is that some schools are Welsh only. You won't find much English being spoken in Ysgol y Berwyn (Bala) or Ysgol Y Moelwyn (Blaenau Ffestiniog).

    I went (admittedly 20 years ago now) into a 6th form as an English only speaker in a supposedly bilingual school in North Wales, doing subjects officially either taught in English or bilingually.
    The music teacher taught 90% in Welsh. She did translate the Welsh study notes into English for me - and gave me her handwritten originals. That was how confident she was she wouldn't ever again have anyone else in her class who didn't speak Welsh.
    The maths class was more even handed, but even so I only got a decent A level pass on the back of also doing Physics (Upper 6th class of 2, taught in English by probably the most talented teacher I've ever met).

    I did alright out of it, but I'd existed successfully as an English speaker in a mainly Welsh language environment for most of my teens. Chucking someone's random teenager into that world mid GCSEs would be pretty rough on them, and quite probably stuff up all of their GCSEs/A levels/Uni applications pretty badly.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 34,857

    eek said:

    A story I think TSE will appreciate....

    In recent weeks, stung by criticism that she
    was aloof from her MPs, Badenoch has
    begun inviting in small groups for lunch.
    Well, platters of shop-bought sandwiches.

    When I pointed out to one invitee that
    Badenoch famously declared last year that
    she hated sandwiches (in line with just 1%
    of the British public), they replied "oh no,
    the MPs had sandwiches, Kemi had
    something hot brought in".

    https://bsky.app/profile/michaeljsc.bsky.social/post/3m2jhne5dpc2h

    Reminds me of the time a guy who was going to America had a first class seat, but after booking he started a relationship, and took his new girlfriend on the trip but booked her in standard class on the same flight.

    Astonishingly the relationship didn't last long after that trip to America.
    Wasn’t there a story about Heath after a long evening with his team having a tasty late supper served to him but nothing for them?
    Unlikely as it seems perhaps Heath is the closest comparator to Kemi; prickly, humourless, bad at the talking human stuff. Ted of course did nevertheless manage to win elections..
    I'll not have a word said against St Ted who took us into the Promised Land of the Common Market.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,313

    Taz said:

    Green PPB. Very Corbynite. ‘Wealth tax now’ stuff.

    Advance: Combat 18
    Reform UK: National Front
    Tories: a smeared fly on a windscreen
    Labour - One Nation Conservatives
    LibDems - Blairite Labour
    Greens - Millibandite Labour
    YourParty - continuity Corbyn
    Labour are not One Nation Conservatives.

    Not even close.
    Calm Down Dear. It was a joke.

    They are far too right wing to be One Nation Conservatives.
    Where does this nonsense come from?

    They are gleefully selling out British interests left, right and centre, and jacking up tax and spend.

    They are NOT right wing.
  • theProletheProle Posts: 1,486
    HYUFD said:

    JohnO said:

    Andy_JS said:

    HYUFD said:

    Technically half of Conservative members do not want Badenoch to lead them into the general election. 46% may want Jenrick to lead them but that is little higher than the share he got when Badenoch beat him in the members ballot for leader last year.

    If Kemi went Tory MPs would instead likely crown Cleverly as leader. They will have noted yesterday's Telegraph poll too which had Jenrick performing worse head to head against Farage than Badenoch and Cleverly. Jenrick is a possible option to succeed Farage as leader of the populist right at the general election after next but not to lead the Tories to take on Farage at the next general election

    Doesn't it have to go to a members' vote if there's more than one candidate?
    Yes, it does and I can't see Jenrick standing aside in such circumstances and why should he?

    So I'm very sceptical about an MPs' coronation Michael Howard style.
    Howard was the only broadly-tolerable candidate left by then, and the job was so obviously probably a Luftwaffe-tail-gunner gig that it wasn't that attractive. (See also Sunak 2022 and Starmer 2020, except the latter nincompoop went and spoiled it by winning the GE.)

    Jenrick, for reasons that defy human reasoning, seems to actually want the job of Conservative leader.
    No David Davis wanted it as did Ken Clarke still but Howard got the backing of ex IDS and ex Portilllo backing MPs to ensure enough for a coronation.

    I suspect the 1922 would anoint Cleverly if 2/3 of Tory MPs back him and if it is
    Jenrick and his supporters who bring about the VONC to topple Kemi, then Cleverly could likely get that with support from his 2024 backers and former Kemi supporting MPs
    It's all just deckchair arranging at this point, isn't it.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,149
    HYUFD said:

    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    ·
    1h
    Democrats hold a 4 point lead in 2026 generic ballots.

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian/status/1975234069832368281

    That is piss poor considering Trump has crashed the World.
    He has just brought peace to the Middle East apparently.
    Have Hamas recognised Israel?
    Has Netanyahu recognised Palestine?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,834

    Truss v Jenrick.

    Narrator: When Liz Truss was Prime Minister the Tories polled as low as 14%

    I see @RobertJenrick has been saying the Mini-Budget was unconservative.

    What’s really dishonest and unconservative is driving wealth creators and successful companies out of the country with tax rises that actually end up increasing the country's debt.

    This is exactly what the policies pursued by Rishi Sunak and Rachel Reeves have done.

    Rob is a self-styled critic of the Blairite establishment but has completely failed to take on their false narrative about 2022 or mention the role of the Bank of England. The Bank admit two thirds of the gilt spike was down to their failures on pensions oversight.

    Until the Conservative Party is honest about what happened in 2022, they are destined to remain at 16 percent in the polls.


    https://x.com/trussliz/status/1975229735450894615

    Team Liz on this one.

    Like or loathe Truss, the Tories fucked themselves over by buying into the false narrative that she 'crashed the economy'. They could never have overturned that narrative, but they could have, and should still be trying to, drive a counter-narrative that the Bank also had huge questions to answer. A combination of Sunkite tribalism and the usual Tory toadying to anyone with money or power prevented this from happening.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,313
    Sean_F said:

    TimS said:

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    National Union of Pensioners is one of the best case studies of collective bargaining out there.
    This is a party that’s content to live out its remaining years, before dying, and unbothered about attracting new generations of supporters.
    I think they're in too deep to change it now.

    They'd probably drop to 6% in the polling without it.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,313

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    I give up.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,025
    Taz said:

    Green PPB. Very Corbynite. ‘Wealth tax now’ stuff.

    Tick VG
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,316

    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    ·
    1h
    Democrats hold a 4 point lead in 2026 generic ballots.

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian/status/1975234069832368281

    That is piss poor considering Trump has crashed the World.
    It's pretty depressing. The lower the margin the easier it will be for Trump fixers on the ground to rig local votes in various ways.

    If they want their democracy to continue the Dems need a landslide in 2026 imho.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,109
    theProle said:

    HYUFD said:

    JohnO said:

    Andy_JS said:

    HYUFD said:

    Technically half of Conservative members do not want Badenoch to lead them into the general election. 46% may want Jenrick to lead them but that is little higher than the share he got when Badenoch beat him in the members ballot for leader last year.

    If Kemi went Tory MPs would instead likely crown Cleverly as leader. They will have noted yesterday's Telegraph poll too which had Jenrick performing worse head to head against Farage than Badenoch and Cleverly. Jenrick is a possible option to succeed Farage as leader of the populist right at the general election after next but not to lead the Tories to take on Farage at the next general election

    Doesn't it have to go to a members' vote if there's more than one candidate?
    Yes, it does and I can't see Jenrick standing aside in such circumstances and why should he?

    So I'm very sceptical about an MPs' coronation Michael Howard style.
    Howard was the only broadly-tolerable candidate left by then, and the job was so obviously probably a Luftwaffe-tail-gunner gig that it wasn't that attractive. (See also Sunak 2022 and Starmer 2020, except the latter nincompoop went and spoiled it by winning the GE.)

    Jenrick, for reasons that defy human reasoning, seems to actually want the job of Conservative leader.
    No David Davis wanted it as did Ken Clarke still but Howard got the backing of ex IDS and ex Portilllo backing MPs to ensure enough for a coronation.

    I suspect the 1922 would anoint Cleverly if 2/3 of Tory MPs back him and if it is
    Jenrick and his supporters who bring about the VONC to topple Kemi, then Cleverly could likely get that with support from his 2024 backers and former Kemi supporting MPs
    It's all just deckchair arranging at this point, isn't it.
    It would be, if they hadn't flogged off the deckchairs in 2023.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,914
    "Welsh Labour has removed a social media post linking Reform UK’s Caerphilly Senedd by-election candidate Llŷr Powell to Vladimir Putin, after Nigel Farage’s party threatened legal action."

    https://caerphilly.observer/news/1053766/labour-reform-legal-row-caerphilly-by-election
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,547
    Taz said:

    Green PPB. Very Corbynite. ‘Wealth tax now’ stuff.

    Not very green party.

  • Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    ·
    1h
    Democrats hold a 4 point lead in 2026 generic ballots.

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian/status/1975234069832368281

    I don't know if that's an indication of how useless the Dems are or how irrevocably fractured US politics has become. Both, possibly.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,130

    eek said:

    A story I think TSE will appreciate....

    In recent weeks, stung by criticism that she
    was aloof from her MPs, Badenoch has
    begun inviting in small groups for lunch.
    Well, platters of shop-bought sandwiches.

    When I pointed out to one invitee that
    Badenoch famously declared last year that
    she hated sandwiches (in line with just 1%
    of the British public), they replied "oh no,
    the MPs had sandwiches, Kemi had
    something hot brought in".

    https://bsky.app/profile/michaeljsc.bsky.social/post/3m2jhne5dpc2h

    Reminds me of the time a guy who was going to America had a first class seat, but after booking he started a relationship, and took his new girlfriend on the trip but booked her in standard class on the same flight.

    Astonishingly the relationship didn't last long after that trip to America.
    Wasn’t there a story about Heath after a long evening with his team having a tasty late supper served to him but nothing for them?
    Unlikely as it seems perhaps Heath is the closest comparator to Kemi; prickly, humourless, bad at the talking human stuff. Ted of course did nevertheless manage to win elections..
    Yah.

    Keir Starmer may be lacking in man-management skills, but he’s not the worst PM in that department. The clear winner is Ted Heath, who was sulky to his enemies and inconsiderate to his allies. The former Tory chairman Chris Patten wrote speeches for Heath and tells the Rosebud podcast that he was once summoned on a Saturday morning to Heath’s hotel suite and made to wait for 90 minutes before a kimono-wearing leader let him in, without the offer of a cup of coffee.

    Heath’s housekeeper brought in a tray of Chablis, lobster and cheese. “Our eyes were out on stilts because we were absolutely starving,” Patten says. Heath suddenly asked the team if they’d had anything to eat and, when they said no, replied “Oh, you must be very hungry”. He then returned to his meal without a second thought. Patten found this particularly ironic as Heath was asking them to write about “care and compassion”.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/ted-heath-hunger-games-mps-qmsnmrbqm
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,289

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    My factoid of the day is that the AI bubble boost to US GDP exactly explains my miss--by-a-mile prediction for that measure in the PB competition.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,834

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    I give up.
    Without wishing to defend Mel Pillock, it is completely impossible politically to ditch the triple lock. Eliminating NI, raising income tax, and therefore bringing pensions within the scope of taxable income is a milder way of redressing the balance.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,672

    eek said:

    A story I think TSE will appreciate....

    In recent weeks, stung by criticism that she
    was aloof from her MPs, Badenoch has
    begun inviting in small groups for lunch.
    Well, platters of shop-bought sandwiches.

    When I pointed out to one invitee that
    Badenoch famously declared last year that
    she hated sandwiches (in line with just 1%
    of the British public), they replied "oh no,
    the MPs had sandwiches, Kemi had
    something hot brought in".

    https://bsky.app/profile/michaeljsc.bsky.social/post/3m2jhne5dpc2h

    Reminds me of the time a guy who was going to America had a first class seat, but after booking he started a relationship, and took his new girlfriend on the trip but booked her in standard class on the same flight.

    Astonishingly the relationship didn't last long after that trip to America.
    Wasn’t there a story about Heath after a long evening with his team having a tasty late supper served to him but nothing for them?
    Unlikely as it seems perhaps Heath is the closest comparator to Kemi; prickly, humourless, bad at the talking human stuff. Ted of course did nevertheless manage to win elections..
    Yah.

    Keir Starmer may be lacking in man-management skills, but he’s not the worst PM in that department. The clear winner is Ted Heath, who was sulky to his enemies and inconsiderate to his allies. The former Tory chairman Chris Patten wrote speeches for Heath and tells the Rosebud podcast that he was once summoned on a Saturday morning to Heath’s hotel suite and made to wait for 90 minutes before a kimono-wearing leader let him in, without the offer of a cup of coffee.

    Heath’s housekeeper brought in a tray of Chablis, lobster and cheese. “Our eyes were out on stilts because we were absolutely starving,” Patten says. Heath suddenly asked the team if they’d had anything to eat and, when they said no, replied “Oh, you must be very hungry”. He then returned to his meal without a second thought. Patten found this particularly ironic as Heath was asking them to write about “care and compassion”.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/ted-heath-hunger-games-mps-qmsnmrbqm
    Heath’s complete absence of interpersonal skills is an oddity, in a politician.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,891

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    I give up.
    Me too. There's no party for us now @Casino_Royale.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,025

    Taz said:

    Green PPB. Very Corbynite. ‘Wealth tax now’ stuff.

    Not very green party.

    But far more closer to being a Green Party than SKS is to being a Labour Party.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,813

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    I give up.
    Without wishing to defend Mel Pillock, it is completely impossible politically to ditch the triple lock. Eliminating NI, raising income tax, and therefore bringing pensions within the scope of taxable income is a milder way of redressing the balance.
    Yes, at the bottom end the pension is a pittance, so up-rating it is good. What's needed is to claw it back more effectively at the top end.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,523

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    I give up.
    Madness doesn't come close to describing this. Stride was absolutely terrible on Today this morning. His speech was dreadful. His failure to recognise how deep we are in the hole is driven by politics not be economics. Its bordering on disgraceful. And he pretends that he is "responsible". No wonder people just laugh.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,547

    One for @Richard_Tyndall ; or for anyone who still hates the metric system:

    "Oilfield Units: a Measurement System so Cursed it made me Change Career"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdWEGzWFcCc

    I remember referring to scf to an audience of onshore gas transmission people. They had a collective fit of the vapours.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 8,191
    edited 6:15PM

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    I give up.
    Without wishing to defend Mel Pillock, it is completely impossible politically to ditch the triple lock. Eliminating NI, raising income tax, and therefore bringing pensions within the scope of taxable income is a milder way of redressing the balance.
    Unfortunately, in this particular climate and against this political backdrop the Tories would be signing their own death warrant (more than they are doing already) by pledging to abolish the triple lock.

    I don't like that, but I can accept the political realty. In a similar way that Cameron needed to "share the proceeds of growth" rather than talk about spending cuts until the GFC, because otherwise he would run straight into the Labour line of attack about cutting the NHS/public services which was their trump card from 1997-2008.

    There will perhaps come a time and a place when someone will have political cover to abolish it, but that time is not now.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,025
    Advance: Combat 18
    Reform UK: National Front
    Tories: a smeared fly on a windscreen
    Labour - One Nation Conservatives
    LibDems - Blairite Labour
    Greens - Millibandite Labour
    YourParty - continuity Corbyn

    Advance - Never heard of them
    Reform - BNP
    Tories - BNP
    SKS Lab - BNP
    LDs - Blairite Labour
    Greens - Corbyn Party
    Your Party - Socially Conservative Corbyn Pary
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,523
    MaxPB said:

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    I give up.
    Me too. There's no party for us now @Casino_Royale.
    @TSE once said that he wanted the moderate Conservative not obsessed by Europe Party. I so wish that party actually existed.
  • bobbobbobbob Posts: 118
    Of course they aren’t ditching the triple lock have you seen who votes conservative

  • KnightOutKnightOut Posts: 191

    eek said:

    A story I think TSE will appreciate....

    In recent weeks, stung by criticism that she
    was aloof from her MPs, Badenoch has
    begun inviting in small groups for lunch.
    Well, platters of shop-bought sandwiches.

    When I pointed out to one invitee that
    Badenoch famously declared last year that
    she hated sandwiches (in line with just 1%
    of the British public), they replied "oh no,
    the MPs had sandwiches, Kemi had
    something hot brought in".

    https://bsky.app/profile/michaeljsc.bsky.social/post/3m2jhne5dpc2h

    Reminds me of the time a guy who was going to America had a first class seat, but after booking he started a relationship, and took his new girlfriend on the trip but booked her in standard class on the same flight.

    Astonishingly the relationship didn't last long after that trip to America.
    Wasn’t there a story about Heath after a long evening with his team having a tasty late supper served to him but nothing for them?
    Unlikely as it seems perhaps Heath is the closest comparator to Kemi; prickly, humourless, bad at the talking human stuff. Ted of course did nevertheless manage to win elections..

    Theresa May - who has seemingly been all but forgotten - was also very bad at this sort of stuff and had to be told by advisors to do the most basic, obvious stuff.

    My theory is that it's a sign of self-unaware Autism. There are loads of us who know that we are lacking in what many would consider 'commonsense emotional intelligence', so we make the effort to check over our shoulders periodically, in case we need to do something that doesn't occur/come naturally to us. We know it's a blind spot and train ourselves to compensate for it. Indeed, sometimes we overcompensate and end up looking a bit awkward and Alan Partridge-like.

    But for the Heaths, Mays and Badenochs who are almost certainly 'on the spectrum' but not accepting or acknowledging of this, there is a stubborn continuation of their natural selves and obliviousness to the poor optics.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,025

    HYUFD said:

    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    ·
    1h
    Democrats hold a 4 point lead in 2026 generic ballots.

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian/status/1975234069832368281

    That is piss poor considering Trump has crashed the World.
    He has just brought peace to the Middle East apparently.
    Have Hamas recognised Israel?
    Has Netanyahu recognised Palestine?
    Has Sunil recognised being an SKS fan was a mugs game?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,313

    eek said:

    A story I think TSE will appreciate....

    In recent weeks, stung by criticism that she
    was aloof from her MPs, Badenoch has
    begun inviting in small groups for lunch.
    Well, platters of shop-bought sandwiches.

    When I pointed out to one invitee that
    Badenoch famously declared last year that
    she hated sandwiches (in line with just 1%
    of the British public), they replied "oh no,
    the MPs had sandwiches, Kemi had
    something hot brought in".

    https://bsky.app/profile/michaeljsc.bsky.social/post/3m2jhne5dpc2h

    Reminds me of the time a guy who was going to America had a first class seat, but after booking he started a relationship, and took his new girlfriend on the trip but booked her in standard class on the same flight.

    Astonishingly the relationship didn't last long after that trip to America.
    Wasn’t there a story about Heath after a long evening with his team having a tasty late supper served to him but nothing for them?
    Unlikely as it seems perhaps Heath is the closest comparator to Kemi; prickly, humourless, bad at the talking human stuff. Ted of course did nevertheless manage to win elections..
    Yah.

    Keir Starmer may be lacking in man-management skills, but he’s not the worst PM in that department. The clear winner is Ted Heath, who was sulky to his enemies and inconsiderate to his allies. The former Tory chairman Chris Patten wrote speeches for Heath and tells the Rosebud podcast that he was once summoned on a Saturday morning to Heath’s hotel suite and made to wait for 90 minutes before a kimono-wearing leader let him in, without the offer of a cup of coffee.

    Heath’s housekeeper brought in a tray of Chablis, lobster and cheese. “Our eyes were out on stilts because we were absolutely starving,” Patten says. Heath suddenly asked the team if they’d had anything to eat and, when they said no, replied “Oh, you must be very hungry”. He then returned to his meal without a second thought. Patten found this particularly ironic as Heath was asking them to write about “care and compassion”.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/ted-heath-hunger-games-mps-qmsnmrbqm
    Heath was just self-centered and utterly lacking in self-awareness.

    It's why he played the piano (by himself), sailed a yacht (by himself) and talked so tortuously pompously (by himself).
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,399
    Sandpit said:

    That massive Crimean oil terminal does appear to be still, umm, experiencing operational difficulties, following last night’s unexpected conflagration.

    https://x.com/bohuslavskakate/status/1975231425466229019

    The Tyumen oil refinery, nearly 2,000km from Ukraine, may also now have been hit.

    It's a middle-sized refinery that hasn't been hit before.

    Ukraine do seem to be stepping up the tempo of their attacks on Russian oil refineries.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,313
    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    I give up.
    Me too. There's no party for us now @Casino_Royale.
    @TSE once said that he wanted the moderate Conservative not obsessed by Europe Party. I so wish that party actually existed.
    Not obsessed by Europe Party was code for mildly and conventionally pro-Europe, however.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,313
    MaxPB said:

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    I give up.
    Me too. There's no party for us now @Casino_Royale.
    Labour and Reform are both fiscally incontinent, so there's no prospect of me engaging there either, sadly.

    It will be a very detailed cock and balls at this rate.
  • Foss said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    The problem is not the gross expenditure, as such. The big issue is the incestuous nature of the spend.

    Nvidia went up cos OpenAI ordered loads of cards. OpenAI went up cos they got another round of funding, from Nvidia...
    OpenAI's value just jumped as they've arranged to buy 10% of AMD at a penny a share.
    My understanding of this deal is OpenAI has to buy significant amounts of AMD's AI accelerators, and gets the penny shares as a kind of reward when the purchases go through. For AMD getting OpenAI's endorsement is good news, they're seen as very much second-tier in AI hardware behind NVidia.

    But I have no idea how AMD is going to come up with a huge extra supply of AI chips. AMD fabs its chips at TSMC who are capacity constrained, and will be for some time to come. AMD already has to split its limited wafer allocation between CPUs, GPUs, chips for XBox and Playstation consoles, etc. AI GPUs are huge and require specialist packaging techniques and High Bandwidth Memory, which is also supply constrained right now.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,025
    edited 6:25PM
    Arms imports by Israel from UK hits record highs - C4 News

    Grenade launcers, parts for bombs, parts for Military Planes amongst the imports
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,523

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    I give up.
    Me too. There's no party for us now @Casino_Royale.
    @TSE once said that he wanted the moderate Conservative not obsessed by Europe Party. I so wish that party actually existed.
    Not obsessed by Europe Party was code for mildly and conventionally pro-Europe, however.
    Well, that was because we were in and that was the status quo. Now we are out and that is the status quo. What we know is that the EU is neither the answer to our prayers or the source of our nightmares. We have so many more important things to sort out and address.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,547

    Advance: Combat 18
    Reform UK: National Front
    Tories: a smeared fly on a windscreen
    Labour - One Nation Conservatives
    LibDems - Blairite Labour
    Greens - Millibandite Labour
    YourParty - continuity Corbyn

    Advance - Never heard of them
    Reform - BNP
    Tories - BNP
    SKS Lab - BNP
    LDs - Blairite Labour
    Greens - Corbyn Party
    Your Party - Socially Conservative Corbyn Pary

    By Socially Conservative do you mean Support Sharia Law?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,130
    edited 6:26PM

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    I give up.
    Me too. There's no party for us now @Casino_Royale.
    @TSE once said that he wanted the moderate Conservative not obsessed by Europe Party. I so wish that party actually existed.
    Not obsessed by Europe Party was code for mildly and conventionally pro-Europe, however.
    Full name for my party was 'The fiscally dry, socially liberal, not obsessed by the gays and Europe Party', it could still work in today's climate.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,025

    Advance: Combat 18
    Reform UK: National Front
    Tories: a smeared fly on a windscreen
    Labour - One Nation Conservatives
    LibDems - Blairite Labour
    Greens - Millibandite Labour
    YourParty - continuity Corbyn

    Advance - Never heard of them
    Reform - BNP
    Tories - BNP
    SKS Lab - BNP
    LDs - Blairite Labour
    Greens - Corbyn Party
    Your Party - Socially Conservative Corbyn Pary

    By Socially Conservative do you mean Support Sharia Law?
    Anti trans, anti gay marriage apparently.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,313

    DavidL said:

    MaxPB said:

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    I give up.
    Me too. There's no party for us now @Casino_Royale.
    @TSE once said that he wanted the moderate Conservative not obsessed by Europe Party. I so wish that party actually existed.
    Not obsessed by Europe Party was code for mildly and conventionally pro-Europe, however.
    Full name for my party was 'The fiscally dry, socially liberal, not obsessed by the gays and Europe Party', it could still work in today's climate.
    I know
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,786

    eek said:

    A story I think TSE will appreciate....

    In recent weeks, stung by criticism that she
    was aloof from her MPs, Badenoch has
    begun inviting in small groups for lunch.
    Well, platters of shop-bought sandwiches.

    When I pointed out to one invitee that
    Badenoch famously declared last year that
    she hated sandwiches (in line with just 1%
    of the British public), they replied "oh no,
    the MPs had sandwiches, Kemi had
    something hot brought in".

    https://bsky.app/profile/michaeljsc.bsky.social/post/3m2jhne5dpc2h

    Reminds me of the time a guy who was going to America had a first class seat, but after booking he started a relationship, and took his new girlfriend on the trip but booked her in standard class on the same flight.

    Astonishingly the relationship didn't last long after that trip to America.
    Wasn’t there a story about Heath after a long evening with his team having a tasty late supper served to him but nothing for them?
    Unlikely as it seems perhaps Heath is the closest comparator to Kemi; prickly, humourless, bad at the talking human stuff. Ted of course did nevertheless manage to win elections..
    Well. One out of five.
    Pity he's dead or he could manage Rangers.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 33,197

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    I give up.
    Without wishing to defend Mel Pillock, it is completely impossible politically to ditch the triple lock. Eliminating NI, raising income tax, and therefore bringing pensions within the scope of taxable income is a milder way of redressing the balance.
    Any Chancellor bringing the state pension above the personal allowance is asking for trouble and I expect it will be headed off at the pass. The problem is bureaucracy as much as politics.

    Either the pension will have to be brought into the PAYE system (or vice versa) which will take oodles of work, or every pensioner in the land will have to submit a tax return which will overwhelm HMRC and be beyond the ability of many pensioners.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,399
    Scott_xP said:

    Foss said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Scott_xP said:

    "The hundreds of billions of dollars companies are investing in AI now account for an astonishing 40 per cent share of US GDP growth this year... In a way, then, America has become one big bet on AI."

    https://www.ft.com/content/6cc87bd9-cb2f-4f82-99c5-c38748986a2e

    Along those lines, this is from today's NY Times:

    "A credible estimate suggests that A.I. capital expenditures may reach 2 percent of the gross domestic product in 2025, up from most likely less than 0.1 percent in 2022."

    It was going to be my factoid of the day.
    The problem is not the gross expenditure, as such. The big issue is the incestuous nature of the spend.

    Nvidia went up cos OpenAI ordered loads of cards. OpenAI went up cos they got another round of funding, from Nvidia...
    OpenAI's value just jumped as they've arranged to buy 10% of AMD at a penny a share.
    More infrastructure spend by a software company. None of the spend is by actual customers for AI. It's all just more air in the bubble.
    Okay. Let's suppose it is a massive bubble. At some point there are going to be all these data centres stuffed full of GPUs that someone could buy for pennies. What could you do with that compute capacity that would be worth the cost of electricity?
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,111
    The Badenoch tale of sandwiches for the proles but something else for herself reminded me of the old apocryphal Thatcher joke, which I'm sure you all know but I'll repeat anyway.
    Thatcher was asked what food she would like to be served at a Cabinet meeting.
    Steak, she replied.
    And what about the vegetables? she was asked.
    They'll have the same as me, was the reply.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,547

    Arms imports by Israel from UK hits record highs - C4 News

    Grenade launcers, parts for bombs, parts for Military Planes amongst the imports

    More manufacturing jobs for British workers. Something to applaud.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 11,157
    MattW said:

    Ooer.

    Pllllllaid not happy:

    Plaid Cymru called it a "complete waste of money" and "an insult to our language" while the Conservatives said parents should be able to choose the language in which their children are taught.

    because

    The Ministry of Defence (MoD) spends about £1m a year sending children to private schools in north Wales because "state schools teach some or all lessons in the Welsh language".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy852jq7v25o

    Presumably the issue is with temporary postings. Plaid willing to sacrifice the children’s education on the altar of extremist ideology
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,547

    Advance: Combat 18
    Reform UK: National Front
    Tories: a smeared fly on a windscreen
    Labour - One Nation Conservatives
    LibDems - Blairite Labour
    Greens - Millibandite Labour
    YourParty - continuity Corbyn

    Advance - Never heard of them
    Reform - BNP
    Tories - BNP
    SKS Lab - BNP
    LDs - Blairite Labour
    Greens - Corbyn Party
    Your Party - Socially Conservative Corbyn Pary

    By Socially Conservative do you mean Support Sharia Law?
    Anti trans, anti gay marriage apparently.
    They should link up with Reform.
  • TazTaz Posts: 21,291

    The Badenoch tale of sandwiches for the proles but something else for herself reminded me of the old apocryphal Thatcher joke, which I'm sure you all know but I'll repeat anyway.
    Thatcher was asked what food she would like to be served at a Cabinet meeting.
    Steak, she replied.
    And what about the vegetables? she was asked.
    They'll have the same as me, was the reply.

    Wasn’t that a Spitting Image sketch ?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,130
    Sean_F said:

    eek said:

    A story I think TSE will appreciate....

    In recent weeks, stung by criticism that she
    was aloof from her MPs, Badenoch has
    begun inviting in small groups for lunch.
    Well, platters of shop-bought sandwiches.

    When I pointed out to one invitee that
    Badenoch famously declared last year that
    she hated sandwiches (in line with just 1%
    of the British public), they replied "oh no,
    the MPs had sandwiches, Kemi had
    something hot brought in".

    https://bsky.app/profile/michaeljsc.bsky.social/post/3m2jhne5dpc2h

    Reminds me of the time a guy who was going to America had a first class seat, but after booking he started a relationship, and took his new girlfriend on the trip but booked her in standard class on the same flight.

    Astonishingly the relationship didn't last long after that trip to America.
    Wasn’t there a story about Heath after a long evening with his team having a tasty late supper served to him but nothing for them?
    Unlikely as it seems perhaps Heath is the closest comparator to Kemi; prickly, humourless, bad at the talking human stuff. Ted of course did nevertheless manage to win elections..
    Yah.

    Keir Starmer may be lacking in man-management skills, but he’s not the worst PM in that department. The clear winner is Ted Heath, who was sulky to his enemies and inconsiderate to his allies. The former Tory chairman Chris Patten wrote speeches for Heath and tells the Rosebud podcast that he was once summoned on a Saturday morning to Heath’s hotel suite and made to wait for 90 minutes before a kimono-wearing leader let him in, without the offer of a cup of coffee.

    Heath’s housekeeper brought in a tray of Chablis, lobster and cheese. “Our eyes were out on stilts because we were absolutely starving,” Patten says. Heath suddenly asked the team if they’d had anything to eat and, when they said no, replied “Oh, you must be very hungry”. He then returned to his meal without a second thought. Patten found this particularly ironic as Heath was asking them to write about “care and compassion”.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/ted-heath-hunger-games-mps-qmsnmrbqm
    Heath’s complete absence of interpersonal skills is an oddity, in a politician.
    It was weird, he could inspire real loyalty among some people yet was incredibly rude, I heard first hand how at a party he was seat with women on either side of them, for nearly three hours he just ignored them and spoke to the men at the table whilst not leaving his seat.

    Somebody said that he wasn't gay, just very badly damaged by the one lady that got away.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,025

    Arms imports by Israel from UK hits record highs - C4 News

    Grenade launcers, parts for bombs, parts for Military Planes amongst the imports

    More manufacturing jobs for British workers. Something to applaud.
    Genocide ok with you?
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,680

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    I give up.
    Without wishing to defend Mel Pillock, it is completely impossible politically to ditch the triple lock. Eliminating NI, raising income tax, and therefore bringing pensions within the scope of taxable income is a milder way of redressing the balance.
    Unfortunately, in this particular climate and against this political backdrop the Tories would be signing their own death warrant (more than they are doing already) by pledging to abolish the triple lock.

    I don't like that, but I can accept the political realty. In a similar way that Cameron needed to "share the proceeds of growth" rather than talk about spending cuts until the GFC, because otherwise he would run straight into the Labour line of attack about cutting the NHS/public services which was their trump card from 1997-2008.

    There will perhaps come a time and a place when someone will have political cover to abolish it, but that time is not now.
    It doesn't have to be abolished, just tweaked very slightly. You could replace 'ax' with 'in' or the whole word with average.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,184

    MaxPB said:

    Madness.

    Conservative party will go in to the next election with a pledge to protect the triple lock (which would keep it in place until at least 2034), a spokesman says.

    State pension is exempted from the £47bn in spending cuts set out by Mel Stride in his conference speech just now.


    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1975138781679452472

    I give up.
    Me too. There's no party for us now @Casino_Royale.
    Labour and Reform are both fiscally incontinent, so there's no prospect of me engaging there either, sadly.

    It will be a very detailed cock and balls at this rate.
    A fiscally continent cock and balls, please.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,316
    Taz said:

    The Badenoch tale of sandwiches for the proles but something else for herself reminded me of the old apocryphal Thatcher joke, which I'm sure you all know but I'll repeat anyway.
    Thatcher was asked what food she would like to be served at a Cabinet meeting.
    Steak, she replied.
    And what about the vegetables? she was asked.
    They'll have the same as me, was the reply.

    Wasn’t that a Spitting Image sketch ?
    Yes.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 31,129

    Advance: Combat 18
    Reform UK: National Front
    Tories: a smeared fly on a windscreen
    Labour - One Nation Conservatives
    LibDems - Blairite Labour
    Greens - Millibandite Labour
    YourParty - continuity Corbyn

    Advance - Never heard of them
    Reform - BNP
    Tories - BNP
    SKS Lab - BNP
    LDs - Blairite Labour
    Greens - Corbyn Party
    Your Party - Socially Conservative Corbyn Pary

    Genuinely excited by the Polanski Greens. Some umph into our politics again. Some of what he is saying is bonkers, but its Bonkers with Feeling, which is better than numb bonkers as we get from Starmer & Badenoch
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,111
    Taz said:

    The Badenoch tale of sandwiches for the proles but something else for herself reminded me of the old apocryphal Thatcher joke, which I'm sure you all know but I'll repeat anyway.
    Thatcher was asked what food she would like to be served at a Cabinet meeting.
    Steak, she replied.
    And what about the vegetables? she was asked.
    They'll have the same as me, was the reply.

    Wasn’t that a Spitting Image sketch ?
    Yes, I think it was - well remembered, I'd forgotten the source.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,025

    Advance: Combat 18
    Reform UK: National Front
    Tories: a smeared fly on a windscreen
    Labour - One Nation Conservatives
    LibDems - Blairite Labour
    Greens - Millibandite Labour
    YourParty - continuity Corbyn

    Advance - Never heard of them
    Reform - BNP
    Tories - BNP
    SKS Lab - BNP
    LDs - Blairite Labour
    Greens - Corbyn Party
    Your Party - Socially Conservative Corbyn Pary

    Genuinely excited by the Polanski Greens. Some umph into our politics again. Some of what he is saying is bonkers, but its Bonkers with Feeling, which is better than numb bonkers as we get from Starmer & Badenoch
    Agreed Comrade.
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