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  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 32,760
    Tres said:

    Anyway here's some links for mr biblical kirk in his racist and anti-semitic glory (trigger warning - omg he said racist)

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-black-women/

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-jewish-money-quote/?collection=471193

    Apparently President Trump told Kirk to drop the antisemitic stuff or he'd be disowned.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 32,760
    Leon said:

    X loons now claiming 3 million marched in London yesterday.


    That’s as mad as the Met saying “110,000”

    What did they hope to gain with this ludicrously precise answer? An air of authority?

    Tho I note they’ve recently changed this to “110,000-150,000, probably”
    You've misunderstood how numbers work. 110,000 does not mean one more than 109,999 and one less than 110,001 – it means 110,000 give or take 10,000.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,434
    The men's marathon has been decided by a fraction of a second.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 87,533
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    Andy_JS said:

    The men's marathon has been decided by a fraction of a second.

    Its fascinating how despite representing a range of different countries and having moved to those countries at different times in their lives and under differing cricumstances, a quick wikipedia look at the top 10, the majority come from Ethiopia or Eritrea.

    I bet with further inspection they come from the Great Rift Valley or have family history there.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 32,760
    Keir Starmer's favourite television programme, Adolescence, has won a fistful of Emmys. If only there had been an Epstein documentary.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 87,533

    Keir Starmer's favourite television programme, Adolescence, has won a fistful of Emmys. If only there had been an Epstein documentary.

    I presume it won in the best documentary category ;-)
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,389
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,081

    I really want a Charlie Kirk hater to post a video clip of Charlie being vile or hateful

    I wasn't a big fan, but I'd seen a few clips of his videos. He seemed intelligent and friendly, but rather self assured and too Christian for my liking

    Since his death I've seen more videos than I could ever watch. But where I have watched he was never hateful, or in any other way vile

    He has a self or Jesus assured arrogance that he's right, but he's also kind and friendly to everyone he debates

    I struggle to understand how he could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred

    I am not a Kirk hater.
    His politics were very far from mine, but I don't think he was a genuinely evil man in the manner of a Trump or Miller.

    And while you characterisation if him isn't a million miles from the truth, it's also wrong to pretend that he was the kind of right wing paragon some describe.

    For example.

    Charlie Kirk: Joe Biden should be “put in prison and/or given the death penalty for crimes against America”
    https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-joe-biden-should-be-put-prison-andor-given-death-penalty-crimes-against
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,389
    Nigelb said:

    I really want a Charlie Kirk hater to post a video clip of Charlie being vile or hateful

    I wasn't a big fan, but I'd seen a few clips of his videos. He seemed intelligent and friendly, but rather self assured and too Christian for my liking

    Since his death I've seen more videos than I could ever watch. But where I have watched he was never hateful, or in any other way vile

    He has a self or Jesus assured arrogance that he's right, but he's also kind and friendly to everyone he debates

    I struggle to understand how he could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred

    I am not a Kirk hater.
    His politics were very far from mine, but I don't think he was a genuinely evil man in the manner of a Trump or Miller.

    And while you characterisation if him isn't a million miles from the truth, it's also wrong to pretend that he was the kind of right wing paragon some describe.

    For example.

    Charlie Kirk: Joe Biden should be “put in prison and/or given the death penalty for crimes against America”
    https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-joe-biden-should-be-put-prison-andor-given-death-penalty-crimes-against
    The thing that really annoyed me about Charlie Kirk was that - after demonising transgender people as mass shooters - he was asked how many school shooters had been transgender, and he replied:

    Too Many

    He wasn't interested in the truth. He was interested in pushing his angle.

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,081
    rcs1000 said:
    That is a very good article.

    John Podhoretz posted - on the social media Harris abjures - a thread along quite similar lines. Also highly recommended (which I don't often do for his stuff).
    https://x.com/jpodhoretz/status/1966474548762607694
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,081
    rcs1000 said:

    Nigelb said:

    I really want a Charlie Kirk hater to post a video clip of Charlie being vile or hateful

    I wasn't a big fan, but I'd seen a few clips of his videos. He seemed intelligent and friendly, but rather self assured and too Christian for my liking

    Since his death I've seen more videos than I could ever watch. But where I have watched he was never hateful, or in any other way vile

    He has a self or Jesus assured arrogance that he's right, but he's also kind and friendly to everyone he debates

    I struggle to understand how he could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred

    I am not a Kirk hater.
    His politics were very far from mine, but I don't think he was a genuinely evil man in the manner of a Trump or Miller.

    And while you characterisation if him isn't a million miles from the truth, it's also wrong to pretend that he was the kind of right wing paragon some describe.

    For example.

    Charlie Kirk: Joe Biden should be “put in prison and/or given the death penalty for crimes against America”
    https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-joe-biden-should-be-put-prison-andor-given-death-penalty-crimes-against
    The thing that really annoyed me about Charlie Kirk was that - after demonising transgender people as mass shooters - he was asked how many school shooters had been transgender, and he replied:

    Too Many

    He wasn't interested in the truth. He was interested in pushing his angle.

    He was a guy who had no other job than debating politics at a student level.
    He dropped out of college after one year, to become a full time rock star political activist.

    When you're in permanent debate mode, and have been for your entire adult life, you're going to say some stupid stuff.

    Another example (and again, I don't believe he was a racist like a Fuentes or a Miller):

    Charlie Kirk once said prominent Black women didn't have 'brain processing power' to be taken seriously
    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-charlie-kirk-once-170000805.html
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