I really want a Charlie Kirk hater to post a video clip of Charlie being vile or hateful
I wasn't a big fan, but I'd seen a few clips of his videos. He seemed intelligent and friendly, but rather self assured and too Christian for my liking
Since his death I've seen more videos than I could ever watch. But where I have watched he was never hateful, or in any other way vile
He has a self or Jesus assured arrogance that he's right, but he's also kind and friendly to everyone he debates
I struggle to understand how he could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred
I struggle to understand how Melissa Hortman and her husband could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred three months ago today.
I really want a Charlie Kirk hater to post a video clip of Charlie being vile or hateful
I wasn't a big fan, but I'd seen a few clips of his videos. He seemed intelligent and friendly, but rather self assured and too Christian for my liking
Since his death I've seen more videos than I could ever watch. But where I have watched he was never hateful, or in any other way vile
He has a self or Jesus assured arrogance that he's right, but he's also kind and friendly to everyone he debates
I struggle to understand how he could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred
I struggle to understand how Melissa Hortman and her husband could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred three months ago today.
I don't recall anyone suggesting Hortman and her husband deserved it, or lacked humanity, or similar comments after their death.
I really want a Charlie Kirk hater to post a video clip of Charlie being vile or hateful
I wasn't a big fan, but I'd seen a few clips of his videos. He seemed intelligent and friendly, but rather self assured and too Christian for my liking
Since his death I've seen more videos than I could ever watch. But where I have watched he was never hateful, or in any other way vile
He has a self or Jesus assured arrogance that he's right, but he's also kind and friendly to everyone he debates
I struggle to understand how he could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred
I struggle to understand how Melissa Hortman and her husband could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred three months ago today.
I struggle to understand how anyone could have summoned the bloodlust to kill them
To be fair, they haven't collapsed like Liverpool.
Even at our worst in my lifetime we never finished a season at 16th and just above the relegation zone.
Even at our worst in that period we were never eclipsed by Everton, nor became our cities second club.
They've collapsed far harder and faster than Liverpool.
Were you alive 85-87? Admittedly falling from the best team in the country to second wasn't too precipitous.
I was alive in the eighties (albeit 2-4 at end of season in those years) and I would say that Everton were the second-best club in the country then. Sure you won it sometimes, but even in years when you won it, we were still the better club overall. Indeed we won the title and FA Cup even in that window in 86. Of course, growing up in Merseyside in the 80s the only question was whether you were red or blue and whether red or blue would win it this year.
EG after Man City's first title in nearly half a century in 2012 I wouldn't have said City had eclipsed United overall. After more than a decade of sustained superiority, by now I would.
Everton fielded some very good teams in the early 1970s, but Liverpool eclipsed them in the mid 1970s with League Championships and two European Cup wins. Everton did manage to finish 3rd ain 1974 nd 4th in 1975 and 1979.
We have short memories and easy to forget how far too many people in the US celebrated the gunning down of the head of the medical insurance company. And there were public persons who should know better doing a bit of well its complicated....
Given that we shouldn't be surprised people also doing the same for this right wing influencer guy.
What is surprising is why so many people in the UK are getting all wrapped up in it.
I really want a Charlie Kirk hater to post a video clip of Charlie being vile or hateful
I wasn't a big fan, but I'd seen a few clips of his videos. He seemed intelligent and friendly, but rather self assured and too Christian for my liking
Since his death I've seen more videos than I could ever watch. But where I have watched he was never hateful, or in any other way vile
He has a self or Jesus assured arrogance that he's right, but he's also kind and friendly to everyone he debates
I struggle to understand how he could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred
I was talking to my sister today who tends to go super deep dive on things she wants to find out about. She explained she went through two years of Charlie Kirk social media and speeches and was amazed that she didn’t find anything overly grim.
She’s probably centre right, socially very liberal and not overly political but she couldn’t get what she had seen on social media and areas of mainstream media where Kirk was seemingly some sort of neo Nazi when she had seen his stuff as co servative right, slightly old fashioned and religious based in her words, not metropolitan liberal but not hateful or nastily prejudicial.
I remember the Louis Theroux doc where he spent time with people like Nick Fuentes and I asked her if Kirk was like the wingnuts on that programme as she also watched and she was pretty clear he was nothing like them.
I can’t be bothered to go and watch his things now but I trust her that he was no KKK fascist.
I note that no one on PB has ever used any word like "vile" about the relatively mainstream policies of Jeremy Corbyn which won 40% of the electorate.
Otoh, the words "moronic", "disastrous", "self-destructive", "ruinous" and "suicidal" often described Labour's plans between about 2015 and 2020 on this site and more generally ...
I can't recall reading posts for the elimination of Labour politicians on this site. I detested Gordon Brown but would not have wished anyone would kill him.
I really want a Charlie Kirk hater to post a video clip of Charlie being vile or hateful
I wasn't a big fan, but I'd seen a few clips of his videos. He seemed intelligent and friendly, but rather self assured and too Christian for my liking
Since his death I've seen more videos than I could ever watch. But where I have watched he was never hateful, or in any other way vile
He has a self or Jesus assured arrogance that he's right, but he's also kind and friendly to everyone he debates
I struggle to understand how he could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred
I struggle to understand how Melissa Hortman and her husband could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred three months ago today.
It's the USA - 300 million people all with easy access to guns and a lot of them have views that have been shaped by the small part of the internet they've fallen into..
Apparently there have been 11,000 applications to Turning Point USA to open a chapter at schools and college campuses across the US. The spread of right wing ideology among American young people is going to have rocket boosters attached to it over the next decade. This will end up being Charlie Kirk's legacy, delivering Gen Z and Gen Alpha to the right wing.
People's views change and evolve as they get older. We've heard all this about "the young are all left", and "the young are all right" before so many times.
It makes little or no difference down the road. The idea it somehow locks in a "right wing" domination for all time is risible.
I really want a Charlie Kirk hater to post a video clip of Charlie being vile or hateful
I wasn't a big fan, but I'd seen a few clips of his videos. He seemed intelligent and friendly, but rather self assured and too Christian for my liking
Since his death I've seen more videos than I could ever watch. But where I have watched he was never hateful, or in any other way vile
He has a self or Jesus assured arrogance that he's right, but he's also kind and friendly to everyone he debates
I struggle to understand how he could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred
I was talking to my sister today who tends to go super deep dive on things she wants to find out about. She explained she went through two years of Charlie Kirk social media and speeches and was amazed that she didn’t find anything overly grim.
She’s probably centre right, socially very liberal and not overly political but she couldn’t get what she had seen on social media and areas of mainstream media where Kirk was seemingly some sort of neo Nazi when she had seen his stuff as co servative right, slightly old fashioned and religious based in her words, not metropolitan liberal but not hateful or nastily prejudicial.
I remember the Louis Theroux doc where he spent time with people like Nick Fuentes and I asked her if Kirk was like the wingnuts on that programme as she also watched and she was pretty clear he was nothing like them.
I can’t be bothered to go and watch his things now but I trust her that he was no KKK fascist.
I note that no one on PB has ever used any word like "vile" about the relatively mainstream policies of Jeremy Corbyn which won 40% of the electorate.
Otoh, the words "moronic", "disastrous", "self-destructive", "ruinous" and "suicidal" often described Labour's plans between about 2015 and 2020 on this site and more generally ...
So much so that Boris co-opted many of them to win a stonking majority. Unfortunately he was too mendacious and idle to enact them. But who knows where we'd be if he had?
I really want a Charlie Kirk hater to post a video clip of Charlie being vile or hateful
I wasn't a big fan, but I'd seen a few clips of his videos. He seemed intelligent and friendly, but rather self assured and too Christian for my liking
Since his death I've seen more videos than I could ever watch. But where I have watched he was never hateful, or in any other way vile
He has a self or Jesus assured arrogance that he's right, but he's also kind and friendly to everyone he debates
I struggle to understand how he could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred
I was talking to my sister today who tends to go super deep dive on things she wants to find out about. She explained she went through two years of Charlie Kirk social media and speeches and was amazed that she didn’t find anything overly grim.
She’s probably centre right, socially very liberal and not overly political but she couldn’t get what she had seen on social media and areas of mainstream media where Kirk was seemingly some sort of neo Nazi when she had seen his stuff as co servative right, slightly old fashioned and religious based in her words, not metropolitan liberal but not hateful or nastily prejudicial.
I remember the Louis Theroux doc where he spent time with people like Nick Fuentes and I asked her if Kirk was like the wingnuts on that programme as she also watched and she was pretty clear he was nothing like them.
I can’t be bothered to go and watch his things now but I trust her that he was no KKK fascist.
To be fair, they haven't collapsed like Liverpool.
Even at our worst in my lifetime we never finished a season at 16th and just above the relegation zone.
Even at our worst in that period we were never eclipsed by Everton, nor became our cities second club.
They've collapsed far harder and faster than Liverpool.
Were you alive 85-87? Admittedly falling from the best team in the country to second wasn't too precipitous.
I was alive in the eighties (albeit 2-4 at end of season in those years) and I would say that Everton were the second-best club in the country then. Sure you won it sometimes, but even in years when you won it, we were still the better club overall. Indeed we won the title and FA Cup even in that window in 86. Of course, growing up in Merseyside in the 80s the only question was whether you were red or blue and whether red or blue would win it this year.
EG after Man City's first title in nearly half a century in 2012 I wouldn't have said City had eclipsed United overall. After more than a decade of sustained superiority, by now I would.
Everton fielded some very good teams in the early 1970s, but Liverpool eclipsed them in the mid 1970s with League Championships and two European Cup wins. Everton did manage to finish 3rd ain 1974 nd 4th in 1975 and 1979.
Going further back. Liverpool were decidedly the second team of the city for many decades. Things change.
I note that no one on PB has ever used any word like "vile" about the relatively mainstream policies of Jeremy Corbyn which won 40% of the electorate.
Otoh, the words "moronic", "disastrous", "self-destructive", "ruinous" and "suicidal" often described Labour's plans between about 2015 and 2020 on this site and more generally ...
I can't recall reading posts for the elimination of Labour politicians on this site. I detested Gordon Brown but would not have wished anyone would kill him.
To be fair, they haven't collapsed like Liverpool.
Even at our worst in my lifetime we never finished a season at 16th and just above the relegation zone.
Even at our worst in that period we were never eclipsed by Everton, nor became our cities second club.
They've collapsed far harder and faster than Liverpool.
Were you alive 85-87? Admittedly falling from the best team in the country to second wasn't too precipitous.
I was alive in the eighties (albeit 2-4 at end of season in those years) and I would say that Everton were the second-best club in the country then. Sure you won it sometimes, but even in years when you won it, we were still the better club overall. Indeed we won the title and FA Cup even in that window in 86. Of course, growing up in Merseyside in the 80s the only question was whether you were red or blue and whether red or blue would win it this year.
EG after Man City's first title in nearly half a century in 2012 I wouldn't have said City had eclipsed United overall. After more than a decade of sustained superiority, by now I would.
Everton fielded some very good teams in the early 1970s, but Liverpool eclipsed them in the mid 1970s with League Championships and two European Cup wins. Everton did manage to finish 3rd ain 1974 nd 4th in 1975 and 1979.
Going further back. Liverpool were decidedly the second team of the city for many decades. Things change.
And remember Liverpool Football Club only exists because of an argument between Everton and their landlords that resulted in Everton's owners going f*** these people and building a new ground from scratch.
And the landlords thought - wtf are we going to do with this stadium that no longer has a team playing in it.
Apparently there have been 11,000 applications to Turning Point USA to open a chapter at schools and college campuses across the US. The spread of right wing ideology among American young people is going to have rocket boosters attached to it over the next decade. This will end up being Charlie Kirk's legacy, delivering Gen Z and Gen Alpha to the right wing.
People's views change and evolve as they get older. We've heard all this about "the young are all left", and "the young are all right" before so many times.
It makes little or no difference down the road. The idea it somehow locks in a "right wing" domination for all time is risible.
Some polling on female Gen Z Harris voters versus Gen Z male Trump voters came out earlier this week. Was very interesting in showing the different priorities of both groups which may explain their voting choices. I do not see how Charlie Kirk’s death would make an impact on those priorities, one way or another.
Given how common political violence is becoming in America, I wouldn’t be remotely surprised if Kirk’s death drops out the news cycle in a few weeks. Much like the attempts on Trump’s life and Melissa Hortman’s death did.
To be fair, they haven't collapsed like Liverpool.
Even at our worst in my lifetime we never finished a season at 16th and just above the relegation zone.
Even at our worst in that period we were never eclipsed by Everton, nor became our cities second club.
They've collapsed far harder and faster than Liverpool.
Were you alive 85-87? Admittedly falling from the best team in the country to second wasn't too precipitous.
I was alive in the eighties (albeit 2-4 at end of season in those years) and I would say that Everton were the second-best club in the country then. Sure you won it sometimes, but even in years when you won it, we were still the better club overall. Indeed we won the title and FA Cup even in that window in 86. Of course, growing up in Merseyside in the 80s the only question was whether you were red or blue and whether red or blue would win it this year.
EG after Man City's first title in nearly half a century in 2012 I wouldn't have said City had eclipsed United overall. After more than a decade of sustained superiority, by now I would.
Everton fielded some very good teams in the early 1970s, but Liverpool eclipsed them in the mid 1970s with League Championships and two European Cup wins. Everton did manage to finish 3rd ain 1974 nd 4th in 1975 and 1979.
Going further back. Liverpool were decidedly the second team of the city for many decades. Things change.
And remember Liverpool Football Club only exists because of an argument between Everton and their landlords that resulted in Everton's owners going f*** these people and building a new ground from scratch.
And the landlords thought - wtf are we going to do with this stadium that no longer has a team playing in it.
Indeed. We've built all three of the football stadia in the City. Everton Athletic was vetoed as their name.
To be fair, they haven't collapsed like Liverpool.
Even at our worst in my lifetime we never finished a season at 16th and just above the relegation zone.
Even at our worst in that period we were never eclipsed by Everton, nor became our cities second club.
They've collapsed far harder and faster than Liverpool.
Were you alive 85-87? Admittedly falling from the best team in the country to second wasn't too precipitous.
I was alive in the eighties (albeit 2-4 at end of season in those years) and I would say that Everton were the second-best club in the country then. Sure you won it sometimes, but even in years when you won it, we were still the better club overall. Indeed we won the title and FA Cup even in that window in 86. Of course, growing up in Merseyside in the 80s the only question was whether you were red or blue and whether red or blue would win it this year.
EG after Man City's first title in nearly half a century in 2012 I wouldn't have said City had eclipsed United overall. After more than a decade of sustained superiority, by now I would.
Everton fielded some very good teams in the early 1970s, but Liverpool eclipsed them in the mid 1970s with League Championships and two European Cup wins. Everton did manage to finish 3rd ain 1974 nd 4th in 1975 and 1979.
Going further back. Liverpool were decidedly the second team of the city for many decades. Things change.
Absolutely, which is why I caveated it carefully with in my lifetime.
I note that no one on PB has ever used any word like "vile" about the relatively mainstream policies of Jeremy Corbyn which won 40% of the electorate.
Otoh, the words "moronic", "disastrous", "self-destructive", "ruinous" and "suicidal" often described Labour's plans between about 2015 and 2020 on this site and more generally ...
I can't recall reading posts for the elimination of Labour politicians on this site. I detested Gordon Brown but would not have wished anyone would kill him.
To be fair, they haven't collapsed like Liverpool.
Even at our worst in my lifetime we never finished a season at 16th and just above the relegation zone.
Even at our worst in that period we were never eclipsed by Everton, nor became our cities second club.
They've collapsed far harder and faster than Liverpool.
Were you alive 85-87? Admittedly falling from the best team in the country to second wasn't too precipitous.
I was alive in the eighties (albeit 2-4 at end of season in those years) and I would say that Everton were the second-best club in the country then. Sure you won it sometimes, but even in years when you won it, we were still the better club overall. Indeed we won the title and FA Cup even in that window in 86. Of course, growing up in Merseyside in the 80s the only question was whether you were red or blue and whether red or blue would win it this year.
EG after Man City's first title in nearly half a century in 2012 I wouldn't have said City had eclipsed United overall. After more than a decade of sustained superiority, by now I would.
Everton fielded some very good teams in the early 1970s, but Liverpool eclipsed them in the mid 1970s with League Championships and two European Cup wins. Everton did manage to finish 3rd ain 1974 nd 4th in 1975 and 1979.
Going further back. Liverpool were decidedly the second team of the city for many decades. Things change.
Absolutely, which is why I caveated it carefully with in my lifetime.
I agree Starmer's days are numbered. I would prefer him gone before next May. Whether it is his fault or not he is universally hated by left, right and centre.
Burnham's route to No 10 is however not remotely straightforward.
Also Burnham is a bit rubbish. Up against the very impressive and photogenic Jenrick he is going to get mullered. Don't forget the Stafford hospital scandal and MRSA were entirely his responsibility and Lansley had to come in and complete a root and branch turn around of the catastrophically failing NHS that Burnham left him. Jenrick and Farage will bury him for that alone.
There are much safer alternatives to Starmer already in Parliament.
I struggle to understand how anyone can summon up the bloodlust to kill anything at all.
I can manage a midge, a mosquito or an attached tick. Not much else. Flies or wasps just get shepherded to a door.
I used to hunt and shoot everything that moved. Shot hundreds of animals, took lurchers out to kill rabbits, went on fox hunts.
Bought two puppies and never actively killed anything since except the random recalcitrant wasp. Try and avoid ants even.
It was a day when I was on a fox hunt, could see the hounds tearing after a fox and heard the squeals and terror and frankly thought of the dogs I just picked up a couple of weeks before and thought, “not for me”. That was it.
I agree Starmer's days are numbered. I would prefer him gone before next May. Whether it is his fault or not he is universally hated by left, right and centre.
Burnham's route to No 10 is however not remotely straightforward.
Also Burnham is a bit rubbish. Up against the very impressive and photogenic Jenrick he is going to get mullered. Don't forget the Stafford hospital scandal and MRSA were entirely his responsibility and Lansley had to come in and complete a root and branch turn around of the catastrophically failing NHS that Burnham left him. Jenrick and Farage will bury him for that alone.
There are much safer alternatives to Starmer already in Parliament.
Have they all given up on David Milliband now, then?
I agree Starmer's days are numbered. I would prefer him gone before next May. Whether it is his fault or not he is universally hated by left, right and centre.
Burnham's route to No 10 is however not remotely straightforward.
Also Burnham is a bit rubbish. Up against the very impressive and photogenic Jenrick he is going to get mullered. Don't forget the Stafford hospital scandal and MRSA were entirely his responsibility and Lansley had to come in and complete a root and branch turn around of the catastrophically failing NHS that Burnham left him. Jenrick and Farage will bury him for that alone.
There are much safer alternatives to Starmer already in Parliament.
Have they all given up on David Milliband now, then?
I want more Charlie Kirks and fewer Tommy Robinsons
Minus 1 goal difference I'm afraid.
Just enough glib
Not sure what that means? If you want fewer Tommy Robinsons then go out and actively oppose them. With actions as well as words.
Sorry
I'm a bit drunk and getting carried away
But I can't believe how people are attacking Kirk as some kind of Nazi
He wasn't at all; he was annoyingly far too Christian
Fair enough. I'm not sure I'm arguing with you any more. Peace. Much peace. Neither of us is advocating or condoning violence. So why are we bickering? Social media. Bedtime. We need a "side". Like the LFC EFC side argument. It's our team. And every slight pricks at our self worth. And makes us feel like we've wasted our precious life and suggests that it all has been pointless. Which it has.
I really want a Charlie Kirk hater to post a video clip of Charlie being vile or hateful
I wasn't a big fan, but I'd seen a few clips of his videos. He seemed intelligent and friendly, but rather self assured and too Christian for my liking
Since his death I've seen more videos than I could ever watch. But where I have watched he was never hateful, or in any other way vile
He has a self or Jesus assured arrogance that he's right, but he's also kind and friendly to everyone he debates
I struggle to understand how he could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred
I struggle to understand how anyone can summon up the bloodlust to kill anything at all.
I can manage a midge, a mosquito or an attached tick. Not much else. Flies or wasps just get shepherded to a door.
Maggots. Easy. Eat them
Eating them alive is not recommended. I hope they were dead.
I do eat meat, so I guess I'm OK with someone else killing things.
Yes, that's hypocritical. I'm probably not alone in this.
Our local Buddhist teacher is not vegetarian either, but then how could you be in Tibet?
There's no requirement to be a vegetarian Buddhist. Killing is inevitable. We take antibiotics. Just don't seek it out or enjoy it.
Fair enough.
It just struck me as odd when most of his followers are vegetarian - at least until I thought about the practicalities of surviving in a cold high desert.
I really want a Charlie Kirk hater to post a video clip of Charlie being vile or hateful
I wasn't a big fan, but I'd seen a few clips of his videos. He seemed intelligent and friendly, but rather self assured and too Christian for my liking
Since his death I've seen more videos than I could ever watch. But where I have watched he was never hateful, or in any other way vile
He has a self or Jesus assured arrogance that he's right, but he's also kind and friendly to everyone he debates
I struggle to understand how he could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred
I really want a Charlie Kirk hater to post a video clip of Charlie being vile or hateful
I wasn't a big fan, but I'd seen a few clips of his videos. He seemed intelligent and friendly, but rather self assured and too Christian for my liking
Since his death I've seen more videos than I could ever watch. But where I have watched he was never hateful, or in any other way vile
He has a self or Jesus assured arrogance that he's right, but he's also kind and friendly to everyone he debates
I struggle to understand how he could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred
I really want a Charlie Kirk hater to post a video clip of Charlie being vile or hateful
I wasn't a big fan, but I'd seen a few clips of his videos. He seemed intelligent and friendly, but rather self assured and too Christian for my liking
Since his death I've seen more videos than I could ever watch. But where I have watched he was never hateful, or in any other way vile
He has a self or Jesus assured arrogance that he's right, but he's also kind and friendly to everyone he debates
I struggle to understand how he could have possibly inspired such deadly hatred
he went 100% incel when Taylor Swift got engaged.
He went biblical, as is his wont
it's 2025 look forwards not backwards
We've got to look more than 50 years back for Everyday People
I agree Starmer's days are numbered. I would prefer him gone before next May. Whether it is his fault or not he is universally hated by left, right and centre.
Burnham's route to No 10 is however not remotely straightforward.
Also Burnham is a bit rubbish. Up against the very impressive and photogenic Jenrick he is going to get mullered. Don't forget the Stafford hospital scandal and MRSA were entirely his responsibility and Lansley had to come in and complete a root and branch turn around of the catastrophically failing NHS that Burnham left him. Jenrick and Farage will bury him for that alone.
There are much safer alternatives to Starmer already in Parliament.
I agree Starmer's days are numbered. I would prefer him gone before next May. Whether it is his fault or not he is universally hated by left, right and centre.
Burnham's route to No 10 is however not remotely straightforward.
Also Burnham is a bit rubbish. Up against the very impressive and photogenic Jenrick he is going to get mullered. Don't forget the Stafford hospital scandal and MRSA were entirely his responsibility and Lansley had to come in and complete a root and branch turn around of the catastrophically failing NHS that Burnham left him. Jenrick and Farage will bury him for that alone.
There are much safer alternatives to Starmer already in Parliament.
Who?
There's that bloke who did an ok job on the PM programme one week. And that women who didn't epically fail on their Sky News 2-minute slot.
Sly and the Family Stone are the greatest band of all time
I still can't believe I met and chatted to their drummer Greg Erico at Ronnie Scotts
My wife was telling me yesterday how she met Richard Oakes of Suede last year - when he was having a fag outside the car park they parked at for the concert.
She realised who she was chatting to when she saw him on the stage...
Sly and the Family Stone are the greatest band of all time
I still can't believe I met and chatted to their drummer Greg Erico at Ronnie Scotts
My wife was telling me yesterday how she met Richard Oakes of Suede last year - when he was having a fag outside the car park they parked at for the concert.
She realised who she was chatting to when she saw him on the stage...
I quite literally bumped into Kurt Cobain once. We both apologised. I didn't realise who he was - and for some reason, he didn't realise who I was (can't imagine why).
Also shared a ciggie back in the day with Hanin Elias. Though I realised who she was due to her having a big lightening bolt painted across her face - as was her want.
Oddly, she also didn't recognise me. Though I'm sure she looks back on the moment fondly.
Has anyone yet got a link to video of Charlie being vile or hateful?
JE SUIS CHARLIE
If I understand correctly, people are giving you examples that they consider vile or hateful, but you are dismissing them because you don't consider them vile or hateful. Consequently your demand cannot be satisfied.
Has anyone yet got a link to video of Charlie being vile or hateful?
JE SUIS CHARLIE
If I understand correctly, people are giving you examples that they consider vile or hateful, but you are dismissing them because you don't consider them vile or hateful. Consequently your demand cannot be satisfied.
Nobody has produced a video clip of Kirk being vile or hateful
I don't believe they can because one doesn't exist
"Janet Daley The American dream is ending in a psychotic breakdown A rising tide of political violence and the rejection of legal norms suggests the America of the Founding no longer exists" (£)
Has anyone yet got a link to video of Charlie being vile or hateful?
JE SUIS CHARLIE
If I understand correctly, people are giving you examples that they consider vile or hateful, but you are dismissing them because you don't consider them vile or hateful. Consequently your demand cannot be satisfied.
Nobody has produced a video clip of Kirk being vile or hateful
I don't believe they can because one doesn't exist
Prove me wrong
Not a video, but another not entirely positive legacy article. I am sure you can find related footage for yourself. His analysis of Charlottesville wasn't a glory piece.
Has anyone yet got a link to video of Charlie being vile or hateful?
JE SUIS CHARLIE
If I understand correctly, people are giving you examples that they consider vile or hateful, but you are dismissing them because you don't consider them vile or hateful. Consequently your demand cannot be satisfied.
Nobody has produced a video clip of Kirk being vile or hateful
I don't believe they can because one doesn't exist
Prove me wrong
Not a video, but another not entirely positive legacy article. I am sure you can find related footage for yourself. His analysis of Charlottesville wasn't a glory piece.
Has anyone yet got a link to video of Charlie being vile or hateful?
JE SUIS CHARLIE
If I understand correctly, people are giving you examples that they consider vile or hateful, but you are dismissing them because you don't consider them vile or hateful. Consequently your demand cannot be satisfied.
Nobody has produced a video clip of Kirk being vile or hateful
I don't believe they can because one doesn't exist
Prove me wrong
Not a video, but another not entirely positive legacy article. I am sure you can find related footage for yourself. His analysis of Charlottesville wasn't a glory piece.
"The man who said there were “good people on both sides” of the Charlottesville killings "
People who repeatedly use this quote are in my mind not acting in good faith in building their case. They know the context behind when Trump said this, its a deliberate misrepresentation (and its not like you don't have other terrible Trump quotes you can use, but they know Charlottesville has a special impact).
I really don't know much about the Charlie Kirk guy. I find the reaction this side of the pond from both sides quite strange.
Has anyone yet got a link to video of Charlie being vile or hateful?
JE SUIS CHARLIE
If I understand correctly, people are giving you examples that they consider vile or hateful, but you are dismissing them because you don't consider them vile or hateful. Consequently your demand cannot be satisfied.
Nobody has produced a video clip of Kirk being vile or hateful
I don't believe they can because one doesn't exist
Prove me wrong
Not a video, but another not entirely positive legacy article. I am sure you can find related footage for yourself. His analysis of Charlottesville wasn't a glory piece.
"The man who said there were “good people on both sides” of the Charlottesville killings "
People who repeatedly use this quote are in my mind not acting in good faith. They know the context behind when Trump said this, its a deliberate misrepresentation.
Have you got a video?
Even if he did say one thing so despicable in his vast multitude of debates, does that make him vile?
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Did anyone celebrate their deaths?
Given that we shouldn't be surprised people also doing the same for this right wing influencer guy.
What is surprising is why so many people in the UK are getting all wrapped up in it.
She’s probably centre right, socially very liberal and not overly political but she couldn’t get what she had seen on social media and areas of mainstream media where Kirk was seemingly some sort of neo Nazi when she had seen his stuff as co servative right, slightly old fashioned and religious based in her words, not metropolitan liberal but not hateful or nastily prejudicial.
I remember the Louis Theroux doc where he spent time with people like Nick Fuentes and I asked her if Kirk was like the wingnuts on that programme as she also watched and she was pretty clear he was nothing like them.
I can’t be bothered to go and watch his things now but I trust her that he was no KKK fascist.
It makes little or no difference down the road. The idea it somehow locks in a "right wing" domination for all time is risible.
Unfortunately he was too mendacious and idle to enact them.
But who knows where we'd be if he had?
Things change.
And the landlords thought - wtf are we going to do with this stadium that no longer has a team playing in it.
Giving up is honourable
Given how common political violence is becoming in America, I wouldn’t be remotely surprised if Kirk’s death drops out the news cycle in a few weeks. Much like the attempts on Trump’s life and Melissa Hortman’s death did.
How do you kill a circus?
Go for the Juggler...
Everton Athletic was vetoed as their name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IdGiiCKXkQ
One thing I do know is we aren't going forward towards happiness as a society.
Burnham's route to No 10 is however not remotely straightforward.
Also Burnham is a bit rubbish. Up against the very impressive and photogenic Jenrick he is going to get mullered. Don't forget the Stafford hospital scandal and MRSA were entirely his responsibility and Lansley had to come in and complete a root and branch turn around of the catastrophically failing NHS that Burnham left him. Jenrick and Farage will bury him for that alone.
There are much safer alternatives to Starmer already in Parliament.
Bought two puppies and never actively killed anything since except the random recalcitrant wasp. Try and avoid ants even.
It was a day when I was on a fox hunt, could see the hounds tearing after a fox and heard the squeals and terror and frankly thought of the dogs I just picked up a couple of weeks before and thought, “not for me”. That was it.
Circle of life, innit.
I do eat meat, so I guess I'm OK with someone else killing things.
Yes, that's hypocritical. I'm probably not alone in this.
Our local Buddhist teacher is not vegetarian either, but then how could you be in Tibet?
If you want fewer Tommy Robinsons then go out and actively oppose them.
With actions as well as words.
Killing is inevitable. We take antibiotics. Just don't seek it out or enjoy it.
I'm a bit drunk and getting carried away
But I can't believe how people are attacking Kirk as some kind of Nazi
He wasn't at all; he was annoyingly far too Christian
Peace.
Much peace.
Neither of us is advocating or condoning violence. So why are we bickering?
Social media. Bedtime.
We need a "side". Like the LFC EFC side argument.
It's our team. And every slight pricks at our self worth. And makes us feel like we've wasted our precious life and suggests that it all has been pointless.
Which it has.
We can say what we think without being shot for it
I hope
It just struck me as odd when most of his followers are vegetarian - at least until I thought about the practicalities of surviving in a cold high desert.
iswas his wonthttps://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-black-women/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-jewish-money-quote/?collection=471193
And so on and so on
And scooby dooby doo on
I am everyday people
I still can't believe I met and chatted to their drummer Greg Erico at Ronnie Scotts
Do we dare ask for more?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DeEU9pzFoM
"Umabukisa · Lia Butler"
It's just rather nice.
She realised who she was chatting to when she saw him on the stage...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZFabOuF4Ps
Also shared a ciggie back in the day with Hanin Elias. Though I realised who she was due to her having a big lightening bolt painted across her face - as was her want.
Oddly, she also didn't recognise me. Though I'm sure she looks back on the moment fondly.
Monsieur Periné
Please love it again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGL-eQAAxGs
JE SUIS CHARLIE
Quite good politics to help Burnham take on Starmer
It costs folks like you and me
And if we don't all chip in
We'll never pay that bill
I don't believe they can because one doesn't exist
Prove me wrong
The American dream is ending in a psychotic breakdown
A rising tide of political violence and the rejection of legal norms suggests the America of the Founding no longer exists" (£)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/13/americas-days-of-rage-charlie-kirk
Depressing article from Janet.
Come on MexP
You must have SOMETHING
https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/charlie-kirk-legacy
You can retract your "vile narratives " whenever you want and just admit you were wrong
People who repeatedly use this quote are in my mind not acting in good faith in building their case. They know the context behind when Trump said this, its a deliberate misrepresentation (and its not like you don't have other terrible Trump quotes you can use, but they know Charlottesville has a special impact).
I really don't know much about the Charlie Kirk guy. I find the reaction this side of the pond from both sides quite strange.
Even if he did say one thing so despicable in his vast multitude of debates, does that make him vile?