That's a huge fucking hell moment. And the shooter is still at large apparently.
Trump to declare martial law by Monday?
In the reddest of red states?
As Kirk has said in the past. The Second Ammendment is not there for hunting, nor even personal defence, it is so citizens can resist tyrannical government.
Orwell said much the same in 1941 "That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there". This was in the context of the Home Guard.
There is some truth in what they say. Heavy weapons, tanks, airplanes etc are instruments of organised states, but any citizen can aspire to a rifle.
How is that going?
I think it is based on a ahistorical romanticism. The American ideal of the "Minuteman" working his fields but prepared to fight the British is rather a mythical idea of how the American rebels won their war of independence, when the reality was that they won by forming a European style "Continental Army" as well as getting a lot of French military help. Similarly Orwells experience of workers militas in the Spanish Civil War, forgetting that they lost to a regular Army, equipped by Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy.
An armed population can rebel and mount a guerilla war with light weapons (for example the Irish War of Independence), but generally they get crushed, for example like Hamas in Gaza.
Despite being very interested in American politics I can honestly say I've never heard of Charlie Kirk before. RIP.
Yeah never heard of the dude.
He was a very important figure behind Trump. He was a massive conspiracy theorist and Trump supporter (doesn't believe in climate change, doesn't believe in COVID-19 vaccines, called social distancing a "Democratic plot against Christianity", anti-birth control, organised and funded buses to Jan 6, promoted Great Replacement Theory, antisemitic, anti-gay, anti-Ukraine).
So he deserved to die?
Be honest, that’s what you really think
You pissed
This is exactly what we need from our next Ambassador to the US. 🫡
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
Phillipson has more of a long bob.
I think she would come over as a bit more empathetic with a pixie cut.
A long bob looks too severe. Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament.
“Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament”
Not even in top 20. It’s like an 80s pop star, where I think the idea was to look boyish and not girly. Styled by the Animus, I shall call it. Is that your thing Foxy? Was that the era you came of age perhaps?
Not quite. If you omit those who embraced androgyny like Annie Lennox, the goal was Big Hair, as new hair products entered the market and hair could be as sculpted or as large as you wanted. Look at "Working Girl" (1988?) where the hair is huge. There was also the curly perm, Ioved by many women and Kevin Keegan - see "Flashdance" as an example. Fashions in the early Eighties were also sculpted, with boiler suits and padded shoulders. Basically it was anything you could draw with a ruler
Despite being very interested in American politics I can honestly say I've never heard of Charlie Kirk before. RIP.
Yeah never heard of the dude.
He was a very important figure behind Trump. He was a massive conspiracy theorist and Trump supporter (doesn't believe in climate change, doesn't believe in COVID-19 vaccines, called social distancing a "Democratic plot against Christianity", anti-birth control, organised and funded buses to Jan 6, promoted Great Replacement Theory, antisemitic, anti-gay, anti-Ukraine).
So he deserved to die?
Be honest, that’s what you really think
You pissed
This is exactly what we need from our next Ambassador to the US. 🫡
Despite being very interested in American politics I can honestly say I've never heard of Charlie Kirk before. RIP.
Yeah never heard of the dude.
He was a very important figure behind Trump. He was a massive conspiracy theorist and Trump supporter (doesn't believe in climate change, doesn't believe in COVID-19 vaccines, called social distancing a "Democratic plot against Christianity", anti-birth control, organised and funded buses to Jan 6, promoted Great Replacement Theory, antisemitic, anti-gay, anti-Ukraine).
So he deserved to die?
Be honest, that’s what you really think
You pissed
This is exactly what we need from our next Ambassador to the US. 🫡
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
I didn’t realise such a nothing role could come with fringe benefits.
The contest between them might go with a bang.
You mean Bangs? In the case of Useless Lucy, yes bangs. Not that I’m sure Lucy is aware of what’s going on up there.
Political violence is contagious. It is spreading. It is not confined to one side or belief system. It should terrify us all.
The foundation of a free society is the ability to participate in it without fear of violence. Political violence is always an attack against us all. You have to be so blind not to see that.
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
Phillipson has more of a long bob.
I think she would come over as a bit more empathetic with a pixie cut.
A long bob looks too severe. Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament.
“Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament”
Not even in top 20. It’s like an 80s pop star, where I think the idea was to look boyish and not girly. Styled by the Animus, I shall call it. Is that your thing Foxy? Was that the era you came of age perhaps?
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
Phillipson has more of a long bob.
I think she would come over as a bit more empathetic with a pixie cut.
A long bob looks too severe. Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament.
“Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament”
Not even in top 20. It’s like an 80s pop star, where I think the idea was to look boyish and not girly. Styled by the Animus, I shall call it. Is that your thing Foxy? Was that the era you came of age perhaps?
Definitely so. I have never found long hair attractive.
Creasy had longer hair and only went for the shorter style in the last decade or so. Short hair shows off the shape of the face better, draws attention to the neck and eyes etc. I accept longer hair worn up can have a similar effect, but that is just a simulation of a shorter haircut. Daisy Cooper is another good example of how a shorter cut flatters and softens a look.
Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?
I fear we might get a lot of theatrical posts from Leon tonight .
I can sum things up as gun nut who said deaths were worth it to protect the 2nd amendment ends up being one of those deaths .
Sounds like you are rather pleased
I don’t care and why should I ? This is a daily occurrence in the USA and if they cared they would do something about it .
Because they're human beings.
Sorry that’s a Mary Poppins view of things . Using that logic we should be mourning the loss of anyone regardless of what they’ve done . I care if someone uses their high profile to do good and not hate on others.
Political violence is contagious. It is spreading. It is not confined to one side or belief system. It should terrify us all.
The foundation of a free society is the ability to participate in it without fear of violence. Political violence is always an attack against us all. You have to be so blind not to see that.
This is probably true, and the centre and the centre left will be punished for it. Remarkably it was the right (specifically Boris Johnson) that ramped up UK immigration. Political genius really.
I had heard of him , I think from an earlier mention by Trump. I imagined him as an online Trump lieutenant or influencer, which seems to have been roughly right.
I fear we might get a lot of theatrical posts from Leon tonight .
I can sum things up as gun nut who said deaths were worth it to protect the 2nd amendment ends up being one of those deaths .
Sounds like you are rather pleased
I don’t care and why should I ? This is a daily occurrence in the USA and if they cared they would do something about it .
Because they're human beings.
Sorry that’s a Mary Poppins view of things . Using that logic we should be mourning the loss of anyone regardless of what they’ve done . I care if someone uses their high profile to do good and not hate on others.
I guess good depends on one's perspective. For a religious person banning abortion is "good", for a liberal legalising it is "good". What makes you the arbiter of what is good and what isn't?
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
Phillipson has more of a long bob.
I think she would come over as a bit more empathetic with a pixie cut.
A long bob looks too severe. Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament.
“Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament”
Not even in top 20. It’s like an 80s pop star, where I think the idea was to look boyish and not girly. Styled by the Animus, I shall call it. Is that your thing Foxy? Was that the era you came of age perhaps?
Not quite. If you omit those who embraced androgyny like Annie Lennox, the goal was Big Hair, as new hair products entered the market and hair could be as sculpted or as large as you wanted. Look at "Working Girl" (1988?) where the hair is huge. There was also the curly perm, Ioved by many women and Kevin Keegan - see "Flashdance" as an example. Fashions in the early Eighties were also sculpted, with boiler suits and padded shoulders. Basically it was anything you could draw with a ruler
I think you have to divide the Eighties into two parts. Up to about '84 hair was short (long hair being associated with being a hippie, male of female). Big hair and perms came in the second half of the eighties, and was rarely the long straight styles favoured either in the late sixties (think young Cher or Joan Baez) but rather permed or teased upwards.
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
Phillipson has more of a long bob.
I think she would come over as a bit more empathetic with a pixie cut.
A long bob looks too severe. Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament.
“Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament”
Not even in top 20. It’s like an 80s pop star, where I think the idea was to look boyish and not girly. Styled by the Animus, I shall call it. Is that your thing Foxy? Was that the era you came of age perhaps?
Not quite. If you omit those who embraced androgyny like Annie Lennox, the goal was Big Hair, as new hair products entered the market and hair could be as sculpted or as large as you wanted. Look at "Working Girl" (1988?) where the hair is huge. There was also the curly perm, Ioved by many women and Kevin Keegan - see "Flashdance" as an example. Fashions in the early Eighties were also sculpted, with boiler suits and padded shoulders. Basically it was anything you could draw with a ruler
Thanks. I’m very weak on 80s and 90’s. After cool styles and music in 60s and 70s, the 80s seemed like an aberration I never delved into to investigate.
This is probably true, and the centre and the centre left will be punished for it. Remarkably it was the right (specifically Boris Johnson) that ramped up UK immigration. Political genius really.
This is probably true, and the centre and the centre left will be punished for it. Remarkably it was the right (specifically Boris Johnson) that ramped up UK immigration. Political genius really.
Who are these "liberals" who don't understand?
I mean really? Are they living under a rock?
The explosion in anger is all over the place.
Come to London, literally all I hear from some of my friends and colleagues is how misunderstood immigration statistics are and how it's good that net migration was +2m over the last 3 years because it keeps prices down. No matter that they all own their own homes and have well above average salaries. I think the only thing about immigration you can get out of them that might be aligned with the rest of the country is that we should change the law to be able to deport convicted criminals. Most don't even want to deport the boat arrivals and some have been saying we should have more.
Anyone who lives in the London bubble is going to be rudely awakened at the next election if Labour don't stop the boats and deport the criminals.
I fear we might get a lot of theatrical posts from Leon tonight .
I can sum things up as gun nut who said deaths were worth it to protect the 2nd amendment ends up being one of those deaths .
Sounds like you are rather pleased
I don’t care and why should I ? This is a daily occurrence in the USA and if they cared they would do something about it .
Because they're human beings.
Sorry that’s a Mary Poppins view of things . Using that logic we should be mourning the loss of anyone regardless of what they’ve done . I care if someone uses their high profile to do good and not hate on others.
I guess good depends on one's perspective. For a religious person banning abortion is "good", for a liberal legalising it is "good". What makes you the arbiter of what is good and what isn't?
I know people who are anti abortion . That doesn’t make them bad . I like the Pope and I would care if he died . I will not pretend to care about Kirk because he hated on others . I feel sorry for his wife and kids as they were there .
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
I fear we might get a lot of theatrical posts from Leon tonight .
I can sum things up as gun nut who said deaths were worth it to protect the 2nd amendment ends up being one of those deaths .
Sounds like you are rather pleased
I don’t care and why should I ? This is a daily occurrence in the USA and if they cared they would do something about it .
Because they're human beings.
Sorry that’s a Mary Poppins view of things . Using that logic we should be mourning the loss of anyone regardless of what they’ve done . I care if someone uses their high profile to do good and not hate on others.
I guess good depends on one's perspective. For a religious person banning abortion is "good", for a liberal legalising it is "good". What makes you the arbiter of what is good and what isn't?
I know people who are anti abortion . That doesn’t make them bad . I like the Pope and I would care if he died . I will not pretend to care about Kirk because he hated on others . I feel sorry for his wife and kids as they were there .
I'm not an avid watcher of Charlie Kirk but he never came across as hateful based on what I've seen from the YouTube videos. Just liked to have a debate and, I think, a lot of the time play devil's advocate.
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Watt went on to say Starmer may be holding out until after the Trump state visit as sacking the ambo because Epstein was one of his dearest friends might expose one Donald Trump.
There have been 5,700 mass shootings in the USA since 2013 . A horrific statistic .
Really? I know there's a lot, but that's insane. More than one a day, I think? Can that really be true? FWIW, while I agree the American addiction to guns is very odd and a significant cause of this, it's not the sole cause. Other countries have gun ownership too, if not an American scale. The fact that they have so many mad bastards must be a large part of it too.
A mass shooting is classed as 4 or more people shot . You’re right it’s not just about gun ownership but this makes it all the more disturbing .
No quibbles with your definition. More than one instance a day, for 12 years, of at least four people being shot. That's just staggering.
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Watt went on to say Starmer may be holding out until after the Trump state visit as sacking the ambo because Epstein was one of his dearest friends might expose one Donald Trump.
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
Phillipson has more of a long bob.
I think she would come over as a bit more empathetic with a pixie cut.
A long bob looks too severe. Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament.
“Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament”
Not even in top 20. It’s like an 80s pop star, where I think the idea was to look boyish and not girly. Styled by the Animus, I shall call it. Is that your thing Foxy? Was that the era you came of age perhaps?
Not quite. If you omit those who embraced androgyny like Annie Lennox, the goal was Big Hair, as new hair products entered the market and hair could be as sculpted or as large as you wanted. Look at "Working Girl" (1988?) where the hair is huge. There was also the curly perm, Ioved by many women and Kevin Keegan - see "Flashdance" as an example. Fashions in the early Eighties were also sculpted, with boiler suits and padded shoulders. Basically it was anything you could draw with a ruler
I think you have to divide the Eighties into two parts. Up to about '84 hair was short (long hair being associated with being a hippie, male of female). Big hair and perms came in the second half of the eighties, and was rarely the long straight styles favoured either in the late sixties (think young Cher or Joan Baez) but rather permed or teased upwards.
Well yes, but as ever there are subtleties. There was about 79-83 (curly perms), 83-88 (what people usually think of the Eighties), then you had Manchester and Baggy around 88-89. You also have to bring in Princess Di, with epically styled hair. Plus there was the class thing, with the short hair being more among the working people? I'll try and dig out that advert with the girl in the fur coat.
Edit 2: We seem to have forgotten Margaret Thatcher, who entered govt in 1979 looking like a normal person and peaked in around 1987 looking like Boudicca and - yes - sculpted hair
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Surely Mandy has to hang on until after the Trump bun fight next week.
Speaker Johnson opines “political violence has become all too common in American society. This is not who we are." Well, yes it is actually.
America is not the country it thinks it is. There is a level of delusion in the US that generally is only found in states that are autocratic and on a path to collapse. The GOP won't speak the truth about Trump, but even more incredibly neither will most of his political opponents and the press. I see no easy way out of the mess America is in. I'll be amazed if things don't turn very ugly.
Xi must go to bed with a smile on his face. China will win by default.
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Surely Mandy has to hang on until after the Trump bun fight next week.
Trying to work out who if anyone in the UK is the equivalent of Kirk, Walsh and Shapiro.
Tommy perhaps. Katie. Owen.
Okay not too tricky.
I don't think there is a British equivalent really. Kirk fancied himself as a debater and intellectual, rather than the street agitator style of Robinson. British Right Wing Populism doesn't have the intellectual foundations of MAGA, centered as it is in Evangelical Christianity, Guns and White supremacy.
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Watt went on to say Starmer may be holding out until after the Trump state visit as sacking the ambo because Epstein was one of his dearest friends might expose one Donald Trump.
That has to be it. Sacking the Ambassador for his links to Epstein days before Trump's visit would be very awkard for Starmer. Which is why it was such a stupid decision to offer the State Visit in the first place.
As I've said before Starmer is no good at politics, maybe even worse than Sunak.
- I can vaguely imagine myself trying to legally save tax in the transfer of assets to my children and making a mistake meaning I underpaid stamp duty. I mean, I would try not toz but I can see how it happens. Doing the same thing a year later wouldn't have been liable for stamp duty, so it's no great moral outage but a technical rule breach.
- I cannot imagine myself being friends with and conversing with a convicted paedophile. Not to state the obvious, but that should be morally repulsive to any normal person.
Starmer has somehow found himself being a stickler for the rules on a minor tax matter, but a supporter of someone associated with far more serious offenses. It's like he doesn't understand that some things go beyond strict legal liability.
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Surely Mandy has to hang on until after the Trump bun fight next week.
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Surely Mandy has to hang on until after the Trump bun fight next week.
Why
So as not to humiliate Trump who despite turning FBI informant over Epstein's crimes, may have once accidentally brushed past Epstein on Park Avenue.
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Surely Mandy has to hang on until after the Trump bun fight next week.
Why
Becuase Trump might cancel.
You have just made a very credible case to fire Mandelson.
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Surely Mandy has to hang on until after the Trump bun fight next week.
Why
So as not to humiliate Trump who despite turning FBI informant over Epstein's crimes, may have once accidentally brushed past Epstein on Park Avenue.
Are we really worried about humiliating Trump rather than doing the right thing?
Trying to work out who if anyone in the UK is the equivalent of Kirk, Walsh and Shapiro.
Tommy perhaps. Katie. Owen.
Okay not too tricky.
I don't think there is a British equivalent really. Kirk fancied himself as a debater and intellectual, rather than the street agitator style of Robinson. British Right Wing Populism doesn't have the intellectual foundations of MAGA, centered as it is in Evangelical Christianity, Guns and White supremacy.
The USA is a church society whereas the UK is a pub society.
Trying to work out who if anyone in the UK is the equivalent of Kirk, Walsh and Shapiro.
Tommy perhaps. Katie. Owen.
Okay not too tricky.
I don't think there is a British equivalent really. Kirk fancied himself as a debater and intellectual, rather than the street agitator style of Robinson. British Right Wing Populism doesn't have the intellectual foundations of MAGA, centered as it is in Evangelical Christianity, Guns and White supremacy.
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
Phillipson has more of a long bob.
I think she would come over as a bit more empathetic with a pixie cut.
A long bob looks too severe. Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament.
“Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament”
Not even in top 20. It’s like an 80s pop star, where I think the idea was to look boyish and not girly. Styled by the Animus, I shall call it. Is that your thing Foxy? Was that the era you came of age perhaps?
Definitely so. I have never found long hair attractive.
Creasy had longer hair and only went for the shorter style in the last decade or so. Short hair shows off the shape of the face better, draws attention to the neck and eyes etc. I accept longer hair worn up can have a similar effect, but that is just a simulation of a shorter haircut. Daisy Cooper is another good example of how a shorter cut flatters and softens a look.
Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?
“ Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?”
Caroline is always sporting a gorgeous style - but I think she nailed it Chairing the select committee this week.
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Surely Mandy has to hang on until after the Trump bun fight next week.
Why
So as not to humiliate Trump who despite turning FBI informant over Epstein's crimes, may have once accidentally brushed past Epstein on Park Avenue.
Are we really worried about humiliating Trump rather than doing the right thing?
Take a wild guess. With tariff madness there's 100Ks jobs at stake.
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
Phillipson has more of a long bob.
I think she would come over as a bit more empathetic with a pixie cut.
A long bob looks too severe. Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament.
“Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament”
Not even in top 20. It’s like an 80s pop star, where I think the idea was to look boyish and not girly. Styled by the Animus, I shall call it. Is that your thing Foxy? Was that the era you came of age perhaps?
Not quite. If you omit those who embraced androgyny like Annie Lennox, the goal was Big Hair, as new hair products entered the market and hair could be as sculpted or as large as you wanted. Look at "Working Girl" (1988?) where the hair is huge. There was also the curly perm, Ioved by many women and Kevin Keegan - see "Flashdance" as an example. Fashions in the early Eighties were also sculpted, with boiler suits and padded shoulders. Basically it was anything you could draw with a ruler
Thanks. I’m very weak on 80s and 90’s. After cool styles and music in 60s and 70s, the 80s seemed like an aberration I never delved into to investigate.
In the 1980s we at least had a US President who stood up to Russia!
Trying to work out who if anyone in the UK is the equivalent of Kirk, Walsh and Shapiro.
Tommy perhaps. Katie. Owen.
Okay not too tricky.
I don't think there is a British equivalent really. Kirk fancied himself as a debater and intellectual, rather than the street agitator style of Robinson. British Right Wing Populism doesn't have the intellectual foundations of MAGA, centered as it is in Evangelical Christianity, Guns and White supremacy.
Yes true. Not sure about the (his) white supremacy though but broadly yes.
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Surely Mandy has to hang on until after the Trump bun fight next week.
Why
Becuase Trump might cancel.
No way would Trump cancel . And his relationship with Epstein finished in 2005 so it’s not really comparable to Mandelson .
If Mandelson is still in post during Trumps visit then he’s going nowhere . The media will move onto something else .
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Surely Mandy has to hang on until after the Trump bun fight next week.
Why
So as not to humiliate Trump who despite turning FBI informant over Epstein's crimes, may have once accidentally brushed past Epstein on Park Avenue.
Are we really worried about humiliating Trump rather than doing the right thing?
I suspect humiliating Trump would be very bad for us as a nation.
It is quite ironic that Trump gets to serves his full tern, and starts another in 2028 whilst the only casualties of Epstein (Epstein excepted) are a woman and a gay man. I am not defending the woman and the gay man, but just think on that for a moment.
Trying to work out who if anyone in the UK is the equivalent of Kirk, Walsh and Shapiro.
Tommy perhaps. Katie. Owen.
Okay not too tricky.
I don't think there is a British equivalent really. Kirk fancied himself as a debater and intellectual, rather than the street agitator style of Robinson. British Right Wing Populism doesn't have the intellectual foundations of MAGA, centered as it is in Evangelical Christianity, Guns and White supremacy.
Yes true. Not sure about the (his) white supremacy though but broadly yes.
Wasn't one of his co-hosts and best friends a black guy who also does loads of videos with him? Doesn't strike me as a white supremacist.
I'd heard of Candace Owens, Jordan Peterson, Lauren Southern. But not Charlie Kirk.
The big Gen Z personality right now is Brett Cooper, she's the darling of the right wing and has had hate articles written about her that she promotes women to be thin and sexy which is apparently bad.
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Surely Mandy has to hang on until after the Trump bun fight next week.
Why
So as not to humiliate Trump who despite turning FBI informant over Epstein's crimes, may have once accidentally brushed past Epstein on Park Avenue.
Are we really worried about humiliating Trump rather than doing the right thing?
I suspect humiliating Trump would be very bad for us as a nation.
It is quite ironic that Trump gets to serves his full tern, and starts another in 2028 whilst the only casualties of Epstein (Epstein excepted) are a woman and a gay man. I am not defending the woman and the gay man, but just think on that for a moment.
Trying to work out who if anyone in the UK is the equivalent of Kirk, Walsh and Shapiro.
Tommy perhaps. Katie. Owen.
Okay not too tricky.
I don't think there is a British equivalent really. Kirk fancied himself as a debater and intellectual, rather than the street agitator style of Robinson. British Right Wing Populism doesn't have the intellectual foundations of MAGA, centered as it is in Evangelical Christianity, Guns and White supremacy.
The USA is a church society whereas the UK is a pub society.
Somehow, if I can picture Jesus - he'd have been necking a glass in the pub and spreading cheer (and likely peanuts and crisps) rather than being righteous and pious in a Church.
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
Phillipson has more of a long bob.
I think she would come over as a bit more empathetic with a pixie cut.
A long bob looks too severe. Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament.
“Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament”
Not even in top 20. It’s like an 80s pop star, where I think the idea was to look boyish and not girly. Styled by the Animus, I shall call it. Is that your thing Foxy? Was that the era you came of age perhaps?
Definitely so. I have never found long hair attractive.
Creasy had longer hair and only went for the shorter style in the last decade or so. Short hair shows off the shape of the face better, draws attention to the neck and eyes etc. I accept longer hair worn up can have a similar effect, but that is just a simulation of a shorter haircut. Daisy Cooper is another good example of how a shorter cut flatters and softens a look.
Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?
“ Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?”
Caroline is always sporting a gorgeous style - but I think she nailed it Chairing the select committee this week.
Very long hair can be very attractive, but only certain women can carry it off. It needs a certain proudly feminine and powerful bearing. Interestimgky, Angela Rayner managed it at times.
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Surely Mandy has to hang on until after the Trump bun fight next week.
Why
So as not to humiliate Trump who despite turning FBI informant over Epstein's crimes, may have once accidentally brushed past Epstein on Park Avenue.
Are we really worried about humiliating Trump rather than doing the right thing?
I suspect humiliating Trump would be very bad for us as a nation.
It is quite ironic that Trump gets to serves his full tern, and starts another in 2028 whilst the only casualties of Epstein (Epstein excepted) are a woman and a gay man. I am not defending the woman and the gay man, but just think on that for a moment.
And the sweaty nonce.
I am not sure he would have been a casualty had he not agreed to the Maitlis interview.
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Surely Mandy has to hang on until after the Trump bun fight next week.
Why
So as not to humiliate Trump who despite turning FBI informant over Epstein's crimes, may have once accidentally brushed past Epstein on Park Avenue.
Are we really worried about humiliating Trump rather than doing the right thing?
In a world where we are currently far too dependent on the business and military goodwill of the USA, sadly yes.
It would be better if we weren't, but we are where we currently are as a result of decades of British choices. Most of which were sensible enough at the time, because nobody really expected an American President like this.
So yes, in the short term, we do have to tiptoe around Trump's ego. Mostly for our economic sake, but also for Ukraine's sake. It's horrible and humiliating, but that's where we are.
The bigger question is, what the heck was Mandelson thinking when he agreed to take the job? And why is he regarded as a political genius, when he's roughly as self-inflicted-disaster-prone as BoJo?
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
Phillipson has more of a long bob.
I think she would come over as a bit more empathetic with a pixie cut.
A long bob looks too severe. Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament.
“Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament”
Not even in top 20. It’s like an 80s pop star, where I think the idea was to look boyish and not girly. Styled by the Animus, I shall call it. Is that your thing Foxy? Was that the era you came of age perhaps?
Definitely so. I have never found long hair attractive.
Creasy had longer hair and only went for the shorter style in the last decade or so. Short hair shows off the shape of the face better, draws attention to the neck and eyes etc. I accept longer hair worn up can have a similar effect, but that is just a simulation of a shorter haircut. Daisy Cooper is another good example of how a shorter cut flatters and softens a look.
Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?
“ Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?”
Caroline is always sporting a gorgeous style - but I think she nailed it Chairing the select committee this week.
Not my cup of tea, but I agree a better style, albeit I wouldn't describe shoulder length as a long style, more medium.
The softer flowing curves work a lot better than the straight bobs of Phillipson, Reeves etc.
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Surely Mandy has to hang on until after the Trump bun fight next week.
Why
So as not to humiliate Trump who despite turning FBI informant over Epstein's crimes, may have once accidentally brushed past Epstein on Park Avenue.
Are we really worried about humiliating Trump rather than doing the right thing?
In a world where we are currently far too dependent on the business and military goodwill of the USA, sadly yes.
It would be better if we weren't, but we are where we currently are as a result of decades of British choices. Most of which were sensible enough at the time, because nobody really expected an American President like this.
So yes, in the short term, we do have to tiptoe around Trump's ego. Mostly for our economic sake, but also for Ukraine's sake. It's horrible and humiliating, but that's where we are.
The bigger question is, what the heck was Mandelson thinking when he agreed to take the job? And why is he regarded as a political genius, when he's roughly as self-inflicted-disaster-prone as BoJo?
His performance smoothing Trump has been very effective. As usual it is all the unpleasant baggage that does for him.
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
Phillipson has more of a long bob.
I think she would come over as a bit more empathetic with a pixie cut.
A long bob looks too severe. Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament.
“Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament”
Not even in top 20. It’s like an 80s pop star, where I think the idea was to look boyish and not girly. Styled by the Animus, I shall call it. Is that your thing Foxy? Was that the era you came of age perhaps?
Not quite. If you omit those who embraced androgyny like Annie Lennox, the goal was Big Hair, as new hair products entered the market and hair could be as sculpted or as large as you wanted. Look at "Working Girl" (1988?) where the hair is huge. There was also the curly perm, Ioved by many women and Kevin Keegan - see "Flashdance" as an example. Fashions in the early Eighties were also sculpted, with boiler suits and padded shoulders. Basically it was anything you could draw with a ruler
I think you have to divide the Eighties into two parts. Up to about '84 hair was short (long hair being associated with being a hippie, male of female). Big hair and perms came in the second half of the eighties, and was rarely the long straight styles favoured either in the late sixties (think young Cher or Joan Baez) but rather permed or teased upwards.
Well yes, but as ever there are subtleties. There was about 79-83 (curly perms), 83-88 (what people usually think of the Eighties), then you had Manchester and Baggy around 88-89. You also have to bring in Princess Di, with epically styled hair. Plus there was the class thing, with the short hair being more among the working people? I'll try and dig out that advert with the girl in the fur coat.
Edit 2: We seem to have forgotten Margaret Thatcher, who entered govt in 1979 looking like a normal person and peaked in around 1987 looking like Boudicca and - yes - sculpted hair
I don’t like the hair in that advert at all. It’s like a hat in the distance shots. If you say it’s good as you can see the whole face, I would argue that is the problem, it’s 110% more sexy with hair concealing. You could roll her forehead over the court if it rained at Wimbledon, there was so much of it. Its archetypal eighties alright, and serving as lesson never to try it again.
Brrrrrrrr it was like a trailer for next series of Rivals
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
Phillipson has more of a long bob.
I think she would come over as a bit more empathetic with a pixie cut.
A long bob looks too severe. Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament.
“Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament”
Not even in top 20. It’s like an 80s pop star, where I think the idea was to look boyish and not girly. Styled by the Animus, I shall call it. Is that your thing Foxy? Was that the era you came of age perhaps?
Definitely so. I have never found long hair attractive.
Creasy had longer hair and only went for the shorter style in the last decade or so. Short hair shows off the shape of the face better, draws attention to the neck and eyes etc. I accept longer hair worn up can have a similar effect, but that is just a simulation of a shorter haircut. Daisy Cooper is another good example of how a shorter cut flatters and softens a look.
Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?
Speaker Johnson opines “political violence has become all too common in American society. This is not who we are." Well, yes it is actually.
America is not the country it thinks it is. There is a level of delusion in the US that generally is only found in states that are autocratic and on a path to collapse. The GOP won't speak the truth about Trump, but even more incredibly neither will most of his political opponents and the press. I see no easy way out of the mess America is in. I'll be amazed if things don't turn very ugly.
Xi must go to bed with a smile on his face. China will win by default.
I have maintained for some time that the US is on course to break up. Trump and the MAGA cult will wreak ever more catastrophic damage to the fabric of the country while both the Democrats and mainstream media are in denial about how bad the situation is. At some point the blue states will come to the realisation the only way to save their society from Trump's malignant control is to break away from the union.
California will likely go first - it has the economic power and political leadership hard-nosed enough to confront the painful reality of secession - and other smaller states will fall in behind it. Europe will have to keep expanding defence budgets because whatever emerges from the wreckage of the US won't be defending other countries any time in the foreseeable future.
Regarding Charlie Kirk, let me offer thoughts and prayers to him. Thoughts and prayers.
Now we've done all we can to stop random acts as violence, as defined by the GOP's response to endless school shootings, we can safely move onto other topics without giving Charlie another seconds' thought.
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
Phillipson has more of a long bob.
I think she would come over as a bit more empathetic with a pixie cut.
A long bob looks too severe. Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament.
“Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament”
Not even in top 20. It’s like an 80s pop star, where I think the idea was to look boyish and not girly. Styled by the Animus, I shall call it. Is that your thing Foxy? Was that the era you came of age perhaps?
Definitely so. I have never found long hair attractive.
Creasy had longer hair and only went for the shorter style in the last decade or so. Short hair shows off the shape of the face better, draws attention to the neck and eyes etc. I accept longer hair worn up can have a similar effect, but that is just a simulation of a shorter haircut. Daisy Cooper is another good example of how a shorter cut flatters and softens a look.
Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?
“ Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?”
Caroline is always sporting a gorgeous style - but I think she nailed it Chairing the select committee this week.
Who the hell is Caroline? I know you Tories have a fetish for first names only, but it falls a little flat when folk don't know who you are talking about. Even with a picture.
Boris Johnson @BorisJohnson The murder of Charlie Kirk is a tragedy, and a sign of the utter desperation and cowardice of those who could not defeat him in argument. Charlie Kirk has been killed not for espousing extremist views - because he didn’t. He has been killed for saying things that used to be simple common sense. He has been killed because he had the courage to stand up publicly for reasonable opinions held by millions and millions of ordinary people both in the US and Britain. The world has a shining new martyr to free speech.
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Surely Mandy has to hang on until after the Trump bun fight next week.
Why
So as not to humiliate Trump who despite turning FBI informant over Epstein's crimes, may have once accidentally brushed past Epstein on Park Avenue.
Are we really worried about humiliating Trump rather than doing the right thing?
In a world where we are currently far too dependent on the business and military goodwill of the USA, sadly yes.
It would be better if we weren't, but we are where we currently are as a result of decades of British choices. Most of which were sensible enough at the time, because nobody really expected an American President like this.
So yes, in the short term, we do have to tiptoe around Trump's ego. Mostly for our economic sake, but also for Ukraine's sake. It's horrible and humiliating, but that's where we are.
The bigger question is, what the heck was Mandelson thinking when he agreed to take the job? And why is he regarded as a political genius, when he's roughly as self-inflicted-disaster-prone as BoJo?
His performance smoothing Trump has been very effective. As usual it is all the unpleasant baggage that does for him.
As is often the case, the superpower (flattering horrible people without throwing up) is also the Achilles Heel.
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
Phillipson has more of a long bob.
I think she would come over as a bit more empathetic with a pixie cut.
A long bob looks too severe. Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament.
“Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament”
Not even in top 20. It’s like an 80s pop star, where I think the idea was to look boyish and not girly. Styled by the Animus, I shall call it. Is that your thing Foxy? Was that the era you came of age perhaps?
Definitely so. I have never found long hair attractive.
Creasy had longer hair and only went for the shorter style in the last decade or so. Short hair shows off the shape of the face better, draws attention to the neck and eyes etc. I accept longer hair worn up can have a similar effect, but that is just a simulation of a shorter haircut. Daisy Cooper is another good example of how a shorter cut flatters and softens a look.
Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?
“ Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?”
Caroline is always sporting a gorgeous style - but I think she nailed it Chairing the select committee this week.
Who the hell is Caroline? I know you Tories have a fetish for first names only, but it falls a little flat when folk don't know who you are talking about. Even with a picture.
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
Phillipson has more of a long bob.
I think she would come over as a bit more empathetic with a pixie cut.
A long bob looks too severe. Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament.
“Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament”
Not even in top 20. It’s like an 80s pop star, where I think the idea was to look boyish and not girly. Styled by the Animus, I shall call it. Is that your thing Foxy? Was that the era you came of age perhaps?
Definitely so. I have never found long hair attractive.
Creasy had longer hair and only went for the shorter style in the last decade or so. Short hair shows off the shape of the face better, draws attention to the neck and eyes etc. I accept longer hair worn up can have a similar effect, but that is just a simulation of a shorter haircut. Daisy Cooper is another good example of how a shorter cut flatters and softens a look.
Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?
“ Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?”
Caroline is always sporting a gorgeous style - but I think she nailed it Chairing the select committee this week.
Who the hell is Caroline? I know you Tories have a fetish for first names only, but it falls a little flat when folk don't know who you are talking about. Even with a picture.
Isn't that Fred Dineage's daughter?
It was a good opening Gambit when she went for the Gosport nomination.
@KevinASchofield BREAKING: Bridget Phillipson easily gets more than 80 nominations to put her into the next round of the Labour deputy leadership election.
Easy to call it. Just like the Liz Truss election, Useless Lucy gets into next phase the Unions and Labour Members will place a tiara of Deputy Leadership on her head. Though they will have to watch out for the dandruff.
Did you see Phillipson speaking at the TUC? She has it in the bag.
Doesn’t matter what she said or how she said it, the one with zero personality is the Starmer candidate and this is “a balls to you and your reshuffle Starmer” election for the vast majority of Union and Party Members.
This is a betting site, and I’m calling it already in the bag for useless Lucy.
Powell is the one with personality?
It’s a close call, but Phillipson is one unique kind of personality vacuum.
Who has the better hair in your estimation? I think Powell.
Phillipson has a rather strong resemblance to Mary from "Our Friends in the North". I wonder how much of this is conscious.
Mary from Our Friends in the North?
Not even close. Try Wendolene Ramsbottom.
As for Powell, I’ll defer detailed comment except to say, I don’t think she even owns a hair brush. I don’t mean that in a mean way, it’s, looking at pictures from throughout her career, she seems comfortable beneath however it’s looking.
Also, in a run off of Tory faithful, pre shredding his credibility Rishi Sunak cannot possibly be thumped in leadership election by Liz Truss? Ditto for this Labour Leadership contest - the unions and Labour members are the electorate.
It would be oddly satisfying if the LDL election boils down to two long-haired women fighting over a hair brush.
Phillipson has more of a long bob.
I think she would come over as a bit more empathetic with a pixie cut.
A long bob looks too severe. Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament.
“Stella Creasy has the best haircut in Parliament”
Not even in top 20. It’s like an 80s pop star, where I think the idea was to look boyish and not girly. Styled by the Animus, I shall call it. Is that your thing Foxy? Was that the era you came of age perhaps?
Definitely so. I have never found long hair attractive.
Creasy had longer hair and only went for the shorter style in the last decade or so. Short hair shows off the shape of the face better, draws attention to the neck and eyes etc. I accept longer hair worn up can have a similar effect, but that is just a simulation of a shorter haircut. Daisy Cooper is another good example of how a shorter cut flatters and softens a look.
Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?
“ Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?”
Caroline is always sporting a gorgeous style - but I think she nailed it Chairing the select committee this week.
Who the hell is Caroline? I know you Tories have a fetish for first names only, but it falls a little flat when folk don't know who you are talking about. Even with a picture.
Isn't that Fred Dineage's daughter?
It was a good opening Gambit when she went for the Gosport nomination.
This is the weakness of Starmer, everyone can see he's done for but he won't swing the axe until after the weekend meaning it will drag on and damage his own reputation and the government's ratings for no gain.
Surely Mandy has to hang on until after the Trump bun fight next week.
Are you sure? What will the media and vox pops be like between now and the sacking?
It’s a genuine discussion which way round is best, before or after. I’m saying immediately. Trumps hardly going to bring it up or reference it. The sacking doesn’t impact Trumps “other people for sure, but not me, I was too aware, too smart” position in any way.
Trying to work out who if anyone in the UK is the equivalent of Kirk, Walsh and Shapiro.
Tommy perhaps. Katie. Owen.
Okay not too tricky.
I don't think there is a British equivalent really. Kirk fancied himself as a debater and intellectual, rather than the street agitator style of Robinson. British Right Wing Populism doesn't have the intellectual foundations of MAGA, centered as it is in Evangelical Christianity, Guns and White supremacy.
Yes true. Not sure about the (his) white supremacy though but broadly yes.
Wasn't one of his co-hosts and best friends a black guy who also does loads of videos with him? Doesn't strike me as a white supremacist.
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An armed population can rebel and mount a guerilla war with light weapons (for example the Irish War of Independence), but generally they get crushed, for example like Hamas in Gaza.
James Tiberius.
Not this one. RIP.
Fucking Jan 6th. Pardons for all.
American students dancing in the 80s
https://youtu.be/0jLBgr8tks8?si=kkH6srKX11qoYvuf
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If you're the kind of online ghoul who celebrates a man's murder, you're part of the problem.
And they have people prepared to spend millions to extend their privileges to us.
The tentacles are so hard to get free of.
Political violence is contagious. It is spreading. It is not confined to one side or belief system. It should terrify us all.
The foundation of a free society is the ability to participate in it without fear of violence. Political violence is always an attack against us all. You have to be so blind not to see that.
https://x.com/ezraklein/status/1965887366683652146
"Liberals still don’t understand Britain’s immigration anger
By David Goodhart"
https://unherd.com/newsroom/liberals-still-dont-understand-britains-immigration-anger/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2rp992y88o
Creasy had longer hair and only went for the shorter style in the last decade or so. Short hair shows off the shape of the face better, draws attention to the neck and eyes etc. I accept longer hair worn up can have a similar effect, but that is just a simulation of a shorter haircut. Daisy Cooper is another good example of how a shorter cut flatters and softens a look.
Which would you consider the best female hair cut in Parliament?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2022/10/12/tech-billionaire-larry-ellisons-record-political-giving-funds-election-deniers-in-midterms/
Well, I never heard of him before today.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Abundance-How-Build-Better-Future/dp/B0DVH5Z1RD/ref=sr_1_1?crid=190WOXFNPP44K&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.z7ArSuLc5rHxRFstrkTgQ56iCKqLv0kiTEpyXzhkJL7BSeUJzwSKykzvuuBNkdgd3rWRmK7CwT4A-dmE3eWzHA455p-40tXPN6elpcRVM5n9u_ne9pHDFGayE4EU4YUocnCVazpw1Fs-bXZmaaqCD2VOCTkcVO3aJJt8pbup3z2k9-MgImLgoit-c4ekhdHTzESi6NaURroSnGAEODlbEw.bS1Te1Eh4R1GuZJESSzhYMHWaDMsqgaMmsmxo-4FFN8&dib_tag=se&keywords=abundance+ezra+klein&qid=1757540427&sprefix=ezra+klein,aps,264&sr=8-1
I mean really? Are they living under a rock?
The explosion in anger is all over the place.
Anyone who lives in the London bubble is going to be rudely awakened at the next election if Labour don't stop the boats and deport the criminals.
I'm rather expecting the Kennedy Centre to be one of the first.
Tommy perhaps. Katie. Owen.
Okay not too tricky.
Who cares about Trump
Edit: it was Paula Hamilton in the Golf ad: https://youtu.be/gKQIUJOr1GA?si=oZps2WqCyYsEuAC1
Edit 2: We seem to have forgotten Margaret Thatcher, who entered govt in 1979 looking like a normal person and peaked in around 1987 looking like Boudicca and - yes - sculpted hair
Xi must go to bed with a smile on his face. China will win by default.
As I've said before Starmer is no good at politics, maybe even worse than Sunak.
- I can vaguely imagine myself trying to legally save tax in the transfer of assets to my children and making a mistake meaning I underpaid stamp duty. I mean, I would try not toz but I can see how it happens. Doing the same thing a year later wouldn't have been liable for stamp duty, so it's no great moral outage but a technical rule breach.
- I cannot imagine myself being friends with and conversing with a convicted paedophile. Not to state the obvious, but that should be morally repulsive to any normal person.
Starmer has somehow found himself being a stickler for the rules on a minor tax matter, but a supporter of someone associated with far more serious offenses. It's like he doesn't understand that some things go beyond strict legal liability.
Mandelson will be gone before Monday in any case.
This is just one of his comments and so I will not pretend to care .
Caroline is always sporting a gorgeous style - but I think she nailed it Chairing the select committee this week.
If Mandelson is still in post during Trumps visit then he’s going nowhere . The media will move onto something else .
It is quite ironic that Trump gets to serves his full tern, and starts another in 2028 whilst the only casualties of Epstein (Epstein excepted) are a woman and a gay man. I am not defending the woman and the gay man, but just think on that for a moment.
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For the first time in my life, I’m genuinely frightened about being a newspaper columnist.
Also, Penny Mirdaunt, too.
It would be better if we weren't, but we are where we currently are as a result of decades of British choices. Most of which were sensible enough at the time, because nobody really expected an American President like this.
So yes, in the short term, we do have to tiptoe around Trump's ego. Mostly for our economic sake, but also for Ukraine's sake. It's horrible and humiliating, but that's where we are.
The bigger question is, what the heck was Mandelson thinking when he agreed to take the job? And why is he regarded as a political genius, when he's roughly as self-inflicted-disaster-prone as BoJo?
The softer flowing curves work a lot better than the straight bobs of Phillipson, Reeves etc.
If you say it’s good as you can see the whole face, I would argue that is the problem, it’s 110% more sexy with hair concealing.
You could roll her forehead over the court if it rained at Wimbledon, there was so much of it.
Its archetypal eighties alright, and serving as lesson never to try it again.
Brrrrrrrr it was like a trailer for next series of Rivals
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65700045
California will likely go first - it has the economic power and political leadership hard-nosed enough to confront the painful reality of secession - and other smaller states will fall in behind it. Europe will have to keep expanding defence budgets because whatever emerges from the wreckage of the US won't be defending other countries any time in the foreseeable future.
Now we've done all we can to stop random acts as violence, as defined by the GOP's response to endless school shootings, we can safely move onto other topics without giving Charlie another seconds' thought.
I know you Tories have a fetish for first names only, but it falls a little flat when folk don't know who you are talking about.
Even with a picture.
Boris Johnson
@BorisJohnson
The murder of Charlie Kirk is a tragedy, and a sign of the utter desperation and cowardice of those who could not defeat him in argument. Charlie Kirk has been killed not for espousing extremist views - because he didn’t. He has been killed for saying things that used to be simple common sense. He has been killed because he had the courage to stand up publicly for reasonable opinions held by millions and millions of ordinary people both in the US and Britain. The world has a shining new martyr to free speech.
We'll almost certainly never hear the last of him either.
What will the media and vox pops be like between now and the sacking?
It’s a genuine discussion which way round is best, before or after. I’m saying immediately. Trumps hardly going to bring it up or reference it.
The sacking doesn’t impact Trumps “other people for sure, but not me, I was too aware, too smart” position in any way.
An essay on how Kirk moved away from secularism to religious fundamentalist and White nationalism.
It's not clear how much he actually believed or if he was just telling his MAGA audience what the wanted to hear.