Is Corbyn’s new party just too posh to appeal the voters? – politicalbetting.com
Is Corbyn’s new party just too posh to appeal the voters? – politicalbetting.com
Why is Corbyn's new party full of private school kids? And why did its MPs vote against VAT on private schools? Socialism is just a hobby for this mixture of Islamists and toffs … ?? https://t.co/YoOQB25Ncl
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In 2024 it was:
Con 39
LD 35
Reform 11
Labour 9
Green 4
But we know that a substantial number of Conservative voters have gone Reform. Even if there's some recovery for Kemi's Party, and even if Reform falls back somewhat, I'd be very surprised if Reform didn't make it into the 20s, almost entirely at the expense of the Conservatives.
And then you have an unpopular Labour Party. The LDs are highly likely to be able to eat into some of the 9%, even if the Greens get more.
I'd reckon it'd almost certainly end up with the LDs on around 39, with Labour losing their deposit, and the Conservatives and Reform juking it out in the high 20s.
Put them under ome scrutiny. See how they look when their answer to everything is "Er...."
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Given the personal vote Boris would get on that poll, probably every current Tory seat and some the Tories lost last year too
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Good afternoon
Your loyalty to Johnson masks the fact he is yesterday's news
The question for polling is not about how a disgraced former conservative leader would do, but how long does Reform continue to be flavour of the month and could labour fall below the conservatives with Magic Grandpa and Sultana getting their act together
Man United have signed Sesko and with Mbeumo and Cunha the front three, how many goals will they produce
Newcastle must be very downhearted today
That said, while Starmer's party may be posher than Corbyn's was and will be, Corbyn is right to ensure private schools don't become even posher by removing bursaries and scholarships due to VAT on fees from Starmer's government
"Look at the country! Rising taxes, rising crime, and the place is full of feckless immigrants that the last Conservative administration let in"
Now, the fact that they don't have any answers to the structural problems facing Britain (caused by a worsening dependency ratio, a fucked up tax and benefits system, and an educational system that does a poor job getting people the skills they need) is by-the-by.
Is he a Scottish footballer?
Never heard of him, let me google ‘Bonnie
Blue’.
Meanwhile in house build news: we have a house. This from two weeks ago:
Here's a blog from from the week the frame went up: https://forum.buildhub.org.uk/blogs/entry/1096-week-7-we-have-a-house/
And for those seeking extra punishment the full bloggy set us here:
https://forum.buildhub.org.uk/blogs/blog/87-contemporary-build-in-north-dorset/
Enjoy!
I expect them to lose some club 18 30 votes to the Fruits and I currently think ca 11% is likely to be their next election vote total for reasons stated. Obviously time will tell but there seems to me to be an unrealistic expectation that the LDs can repeat the vote efficiency they achieved in 2024 and retain the anti Tory tactical votes now the Tories are out.
If I wrong I'll lose money (and obviously ill change my stance if the polling or circs change)
Many congratulations on your initiative
Onet claims to have received the content of the offer voiced by Witkoff:
▪️Ukraine and Russia will conclude not peace, but a truce;
▪️de facto recognition of Russian territorial gains (by postponing this issue for 49 or 99 years);
▪️lifting most of the sanctions imposed on Russia;
▪️in the long term, a return to importing Russian gas and oil;
▪️no guarantees of non-expansion of NATO;
▪️no promise to suspend military support for Ukraine.
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1953410620230909981
Ukraine, of course, has not been consulted yet.
Half of Britons are of the opinion that got @williamglenn banned on here for being too fash
Like it or not the British have swung wildly to the right on all this and - I suspect - this time they won’t be satisfied with “oh we’ve moved them from hotels to big houses on your street” and “we send back two a week to France. Sometimes”
And remember immigration is now the single most important issue for voters
Do you not see how this pans out? All Farage has to do is promise minimal migration; the end of the boats: the deportation of much of the Boriswave - and he will easily win. That’s it
Everyone has now belatedly realised that many of our other problems stem directly from obscene levels of net immigration
Both sides are exhausted.
Both sides will use the truce to rebuild.
I hope sanctions on Russia remain, and that Putin remains persona non grata.
EDITED: misread to begin with, but the point is class is about your parents not you.
Then dictate your terms.
Bank of England cuts interest rates as it warns food costs could push inflation to 4%
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/aug/07/bank-of-england-cuts-interest-rates-quarter-point-4
Rachel Reeves, the chancellor, has suggested that she is open to the idea of raising taxes on the gambling sector to fund the removal of the two-child benefit cap.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2025/aug/07/defence-spending-gordon-brown-interest-rates-immigration-labour-uk-politics-live-news-updates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUR-TQg99pg
Can @JosiasJessop tell us whether it is actually such a Godalmighty Eff-up as implied?
The maintenance only accesses are annoying.
https://conservativehome.com/2025/08/06/patrick-english-public-attitudes-on-immigration-depend-a-lot-on-which-immigrants-youre-asking-about/
'You should have stopped us'
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/59ee674c94cba99d881a3f6360fb258013bf3887/0_0_7040_4688/master/7040.jpg
I predicted gambling would get hammered as soon as Labour got in. Their outriders have been pushing this for ages.
This is separate in every way from the concept of remigration, which may well sound splendid in opinion polls but is complex. The concept of remigration is a variable. At one end of the spectrum is the fact that there is an absolute right to leave this country voluntarily applying to everyone. At the other end of the remigration spectrum is deportation, ethnic cleansing, compulsion and authoritarianism.
Polling on this is irrelevant unless it is qualitative rather than quantitative.
The things on the tables look like giant dildos.
https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1953420468419006838
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https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1953139020231569685
ChatGPT 5....keep calm Leon, keep calm.
A recent YouGov poll found 45% support for admitting no new migrants and requiring large numbers to leave - but a deeper look suggests that most of this group don't actually want to remove those who make up the bulk of migrants to the UK 🧵/
Results link in following tweets
https://x.com/yougov/status/1952642041868890155?s=46
Sure.
Reporter: You were the driving force behind operation warp speed, the MRNA vaccines that are the gold standard. Your health secretary is pulling back all the funding for research. He is saying that the risks outweigh the benefits, which puts him at odds with the entire medical community and you.
Trump: Research on what?
Reporter: MRNA Vaccines
Trump: We’re going to look at that. Operation warp speed, whether you are a Republican or Democrat, considered one of the most incredible things ever done in this country. We are looking at other answers to other problems, other sicknesses and diseases. And I think we are doing really well.
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1953211292988391922
Trump will call that "progress".
Either that or someone will pluck a number off the side of a bus.
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Interesting trivia for non-nerds, networking kit is traditionally named after the nearest airport, from which we can conclude the cache server is in the London area because LHR is Heathrow airport. OK, dull trivia.
The rearguard action from horse racing seems to be saying to the Govenrment you can't treat betting on horse racing the same as betting on games of chance and while that may be true, it won't cut much ice with this Government. As I said this morning, we've also had the doom-laden prophecies of lost jobs but this is a game racing has played before.
Bookmakers, especially the High Street firms, look full of money and that makes them an easy target but taxing their profits impacts more widely. I do think the bookmakers themselves need to adopt a more humble attitude - the next step may very well be the banning of advertising by gambling operations - and accept it's not just about brightly coloured shops and signs.
I wonder how many truly understand that we were letting in ~1m a year very recently. Probably not that many because it came as a shock of Rory “centrist dork” Stewart, who was an actual Tory MP when it happened
lol
The more interesting point is that the British voter is now probably to the right of Farage on this issue, let alone Badenoch and Starmer
Rachel Reeves at a coal tip in Port Talbot
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2025/aug/07/defence-spending-gordon-brown-interest-rates-immigration-labour-uk-politics-live-news-updates
This is just one corner of my new living room
Top right is a photo with no colour filter. It’s a woman serving me a gin and tonic in Nashville Tennessee. Halfway through a fucking amazing roadtrip I did from Nashville down to Natchez then to New Orleans. Epic
Bottom left is a photo of the billionaire (doffing his hat) who gave me ayahuasca. That’s taken in his special “ayahuasca taking” pyramid-dome, with the oculus, on the Balearics
We are about to sit down and consume little cups of the sacred vine. An hour after this photo I was chatting with God about global warming
Now, who the feck wants someone else’s stupid art on the wall when I can have THAT
Putin also needs a LOT more than that to market the SMO as a success so it suits both their interests to keep fighting for now.
Ive got a sneaking suspicion Rupert Lowe will run (on some sort of tie in with the Tories)
PB is really quite posh, in itself, so it sets a stupidly high bar for poshness in others
To 94% of Brits, the Jezziah is posh, for sure
She has absolutely no other ideas.
Of course what'll happen is that she crushes a flourishing industry while the aimed-for extra babies or whatever the point is don't happen.
But by the time this is obvious people will take the extra benefits for granted and another Chancellor won't be able to cancel it.
Completely intellectually bankrupt, and making the country literally bankrupt.
It was very different from a comprehensive or even a mainstream grammar.
One of only three people who have, I believe, gone mad while posting here
@MartinDay was one - but before your time
That crazy dude in Scotland, @jonquil or something. Hated motorbikes. Total meltdown, spectacular but sad. Hope he's OK
And Mister Seal, who came back recently for a bit and seemed OK. Ins'allah
Now, the success rate may be low. And some may be genuine. But it's a problem of some scale.
The military think he is a moron.
The opposition think he is off his rocker.
The public are split, but a significant percentage think he is a plonker.
The courts think he's a crook.
And Hamas probably think he's a hero.
The implications are dizzying.
The rates of neurodiversity on here must be off the dial. And I very much count myself in that. Narcissisic, addiction-prone, somewhat bipolar, insane risk-taking impulsivity, weirdly rude to people I've never met
Hey ho. It gets us through the day
Real flagging is for Kemi and the other grasses
Its all good. PeeBee is both therapy and torture. When its the latter I go on hiatus
I kept slagging off Martine McCutcheon for some reason and couldn't work out for ages why my posts were disappearing