I’m watching Children of Men for the first time. Wanted something cheerful and uplifting. Hear it’s a blast
Written by the same person who wrote endless twee middle class murder mysteries/love triangles/Detective stories which were an ITV staple all through the nineties, for goodness sake !
I wouldn´t call P D James "twee", though her early books did get a bit formulaic at times. The books are, I think, better than the telly.
There is a run of her novels, starting with a Shroud for a Nightingale that put her in the front rank of detective fiction.
Ah, my error. I thought it Ruth Rendell.
I wouldn't describe the work of either Ruth Rendell or P.D. James as twee, although some of their novels are not as good as others. It is possible for a writer to produce detective novels and also novels with psychological depth. I remember a review of Rendell's "Master of the Moor" by Auberon Waugh, which praised it and he claimed that if it had been written by a bright young thing just down from Oxford, it would be up for various literary prizes. Because it had been written by a woman who turned out umpteen dectective novels, it had not had the literary recognition it deserved.
I sense a twinge of sexism and snobbery in Taz's comments. Neither woman came from a priviledged background and P.D. James, particularly, had to overcome struggles in her life.
What shit.
Sexism and snobbery. I’m hardly from a privileged background either and I like both writers output.
I love the Ruth Rendell mysteries and am very disappointed most Wexford mysteries won’t see a DVD release due to rights issues. Still I have my off airs I have ripped to watch so I still have most of them.
I’ve read a few and watched them all.
I’m watching my DVD of the Mysteries what was release by Network at the moment although had to take a step off at Heartstones as it was not on the DVD. I got a YouTube rip. Same as Thornapple.
Rendell isn’t just all Detective novels but her output is very middle England.
The precise reason I like them is there is a twee and middle class element to them.
With the exception of Midsomer Murders, which I long since gave up on, we don’t really get that now.
The BBC has decided not to send its flagship Politics Live programme to party conferences this year, PolHome understands
A former culture secretary said it was a "further erosion" of the BBC's political coverage, and urged the corporation to think again
From one point of view this is understandable, which is the very small number of people who watch party conferences.
So what. If there is any reason for the BBC to not become just one more stream subscription (as many on PB would like) it is that it does the work that no one else does because it is a fucking public duty and helps a functioning and richer and democratic society. Inform, entertain, educate etc etc.
It has totally lost its way imho.
It's 'race around the world' shite vs hard core news such as Steven Sackur.
Race arund the world isn't shite! I would say it is public service broadcasting at its best, insightful and educational programming.
The BBC has decided not to send its flagship Politics Live programme to party conferences this year, PolHome understands
A former culture secretary said it was a "further erosion" of the BBC's political coverage, and urged the corporation to think again
From one point of view this is understandable, which is the very small number of people who watch party conferences.
So what. If there is any reason for the BBC to not become just one more stream subscription (as many on PB would like) it is that it does the work that no one else does because it is a fucking public duty and helps a functioning and richer and democratic society. Inform, entertain, educate etc etc.
It has totally lost its way imho.
It's 'race around the world' shite vs hard core news such as Steven Sackur.
Race arund the world isn't shite! I would say it is public service broadcasting at its best, insightful and educational programming.
Fair point. The real s**** are the daytime dross like Bargain Hunt and the endless series following people around who want to buy a house, or a second house.
The BBC has decided not to send its flagship Politics Live programme to party conferences this year, PolHome understands
A former culture secretary said it was a "further erosion" of the BBC's political coverage, and urged the corporation to think again
From one point of view this is understandable, which is the very small number of people who watch party conferences.
So what. If there is any reason for the BBC to not become just one more stream subscription (as many on PB would like) it is that it does the work that no one else does because it is a fucking public duty and helps a functioning and richer and democratic society. Inform, entertain, educate etc etc.
It has totally lost its way imho.
It's 'race around the world' shite vs hard core news such as Steven Sackur.
Race arund the world isn't shite! I would say it is public service broadcasting at its best, insightful and educational programming.
Fair point. The real s**** are the daytime dross like Bargain Hunt and the endless series following people around who want to buy a house, or a second house.
As a person who covered Ghislaine Maxwell's criminal trial, and who has read through pretty much every single Jeffrey Epstein lawsuit, I find the current discourse to be in bizarro land... https://x.com/JayShams/status/1948192038060454089
I think the thread is naive. As I read it he is still trying to believe that the US Institutions of Govt are working, and will reflect due process rather than Trump trying to cover his backside for whatever he did when he was out partying with his pal Epstein around young women and underage girls.
I’m watching Children of Men for the first time. Wanted something cheerful and uplifting. Hear it’s a blast
Written by the same person who wrote endless twee middle class murder mysteries/love triangles/Detective stories which were an ITV staple all through the nineties, for goodness sake !
I wouldn´t call P D James "twee", though her early books did get a bit formulaic at times. The books are, I think, better than the telly.
There is a run of her novels, starting with a Shroud for a Nightingale that put her in the front rank of detective fiction.
Ah, my error. I thought it Ruth Rendell.
I wouldn't describe the work of either Ruth Rendell or P.D. James as twee, although some of their novels are not as good as others. It is possible for a writer to produce detective novels and also novels with psychological depth. I remember a review of Rendell's "Master of the Moor" by Auberon Waugh, which praised it and he claimed that if it had been written by a bright young thing just down from Oxford, it would be up for various literary prizes. Because it had been written by a woman who turned out umpteen dectective novels, it had not had the literary recognition it deserved.
I sense a twinge of sexism and snobbery in Taz's comments. Neither woman came from a priviledged background and P.D. James, particularly, had to overcome struggles in her life.
What shit.
Sexism and snobbery. I’m hardly from a privileged background either and I like both writers output.
I love the Ruth Rendell mysteries and am very disappointed most Wexford mysteries won’t see a DVD release due to rights issues. Still I have my off airs I have ripped to watch so I still have most of them.
I’ve read a few and watched them all.
I’m watching my DVD of the Mysteries what was release by Network at the moment although had to take a step off at Heartstones as it was not on the DVD. I got a YouTube rip. Same as Thornapple.
Rendell isn’t just all Detective novels but her output is very middle England.
The precise reason I like them is there is a twee and middle class element to them.
With the exception of Midsomer Murders, which I long since gave up on, we don’t really get that now.
Apologies if I misinterpreted your comments. I thought you were sneering at them. Middle class seems to be used as an insult these days.
I’m watching Children of Men for the first time. Wanted something cheerful and uplifting. Hear it’s a blast
Written by the same person who wrote endless twee middle class murder mysteries/love triangles/Detective stories which were an ITV staple all through the nineties, for goodness sake !
I wouldn´t call P D James "twee", though her early books did get a bit formulaic at times. The books are, I think, better than the telly.
There is a run of her novels, starting with a Shroud for a Nightingale that put her in the front rank of detective fiction.
Ah, my error. I thought it Ruth Rendell.
I wouldn't describe the work of either Ruth Rendell or P.D. James as twee, although some of their novels are not as good as others. It is possible for a writer to produce detective novels and also novels with psychological depth. I remember a review of Rendell's "Master of the Moor" by Auberon Waugh, which praised it and he claimed that if it had been written by a bright young thing just down from Oxford, it would be up for various literary prizes. Because it had been written by a woman who turned out umpteen dectective novels, it had not had the literary recognition it deserved.
I sense a twinge of sexism and snobbery in Taz's comments. Neither woman came from a priviledged background and P.D. James, particularly, had to overcome struggles in her life.
What shit.
Sexism and snobbery. I’m hardly from a privileged background either and I like both writers output.
I love the Ruth Rendell mysteries and am very disappointed most Wexford mysteries won’t see a DVD release due to rights issues. Still I have my off airs I have ripped to watch so I still have most of them.
I’ve read a few and watched them all.
I’m watching my DVD of the Mysteries what was release by Network at the moment although had to take a step off at Heartstones as it was not on the DVD. I got a YouTube rip. Same as Thornapple.
Rendell isn’t just all Detective novels but her output is very middle England.
The precise reason I like them is there is a twee and middle class element to them.
With the exception of Midsomer Murders, which I long since gave up on, we don’t really get that now.
Apologies if I misinterpreted your comments. I thought you were sneering at them. Middle class seems to be used as an insult these days.
No worries. Apologies if I overreacted. I absolutely cherish them.
The BBC has decided not to send its flagship Politics Live programme to party conferences this year, PolHome understands
A former culture secretary said it was a "further erosion" of the BBC's political coverage, and urged the corporation to think again
From one point of view this is understandable, which is the very small number of people who watch party conferences.
So what. If there is any reason for the BBC to not become just one more stream subscription (as many on PB would like) it is that it does the work that no one else does because it is a fucking public duty and helps a functioning and richer and democratic society. Inform, entertain, educate etc etc.
It has totally lost its way imho.
It's 'race around the world' shite vs hard core news such as Steven Sackur.
Race arund the world isn't shite! I would say it is public service broadcasting at its best, insightful and educational programming.
Fair point. The real s**** are the daytime dross like Bargain Hunt and the endless series following people around who want to buy a house, or a second house.
What do you expect ?
It’s cheap TV.
They only have a finite budget and hardly anyone watches during the day.
They even cut stuff like Doctors, the daytime soap.
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Sexism and snobbery. I’m hardly from a privileged background either and I like both writers output.
I love the Ruth Rendell mysteries and am very disappointed most Wexford mysteries won’t see a DVD release due to rights issues. Still I have my off airs I have ripped to watch so I still have most of them.
I’ve read a few and watched them all.
I’m watching my DVD of the Mysteries what was release by Network at the moment although had to take a step off at Heartstones as it was not on the DVD. I got a YouTube rip. Same as Thornapple.
Rendell isn’t just all Detective novels but her output is very middle England.
The precise reason I like them is there is a twee and middle class element to them.
With the exception of Midsomer Murders, which I long since gave up on, we don’t really get that now.
It’s cheap TV.
They only have a finite budget and hardly anyone watches during the day.
They even cut stuff like Doctors, the daytime soap.