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Rule 1 when organising a breast feeding conference...?isam said:"Mothers banned from breastfeeding at breastfeeding conference
Scottish government backed event aimed at 'removing the barriers' to breastfeeding told mothers that breastfeeding would not be 'appropriate'
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11363965/Mothers-banned-from-breastfeeding-at-breastfeeding-conference.html
But then again we are talking about the same Scottish Govt that predicted endless high priced oil and had a carefully worked out plan for currency union.
I have to say though that this reflects my First Rule (not worked out the other two yet)
'If something can go wrong it will' or put another way - 'If there is a million to one chance of something going wrong it will go wrong, sooner rather than later.'0 -
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CON 31%, LAB 33%, LD 7%, UKIP 17%, GRN 8%0 -
@JWisemann
'I wish, Tim was quality'
Tim didn't even get close to Rod & JackW's forecasts for 2010 which were spot on.0 -
So the broadcasters have decided we're going to have a mass debate.0
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Make that 3 in 29 polls0
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We're due the ComRes phone poll either on Monday or the following Monday.0
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Errmmbigjohnowls said:
Wow indeedFrancisUrquhart said:Well the Mirror didn't take long...Not going to link for legal reasons.
No comment.
But if I dared to, I would say that they are always prosecuted by the press after death since the is little chance of getting sued by the dead person.0 -
Dave wanted and proposed 2 - 3 - 5
The offer is 2 - 7 - 7 I doubt he would have dared ask for that!
If he still wants to prevaricate he can fall back on his earlier demand that they are earlier.0 -
Back to normal service.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov
CON 31%, LAB 33%, LD 7%, UKIP 17%, GRN 8%0 -
Labour's not dead yet :PTheScreamingEagles said:YouGov
CON 31%, LAB 33%, LD 7%, UKIP 17%, GRN 8%0 -
I kicked sand in his face.JWisemann said:
I wish, Tim was quality. Someone's got to point out this forum's nonsense now and again.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Hello tim!JWisemann said:3 tory leads out of 28 polls in Jan. Yeah they are soaring.
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Tonights YG - EICIPM LAB 330 CON 268
Rod Crosby not hard yet0 -
Will it be hands on?TheScreamingEagles said:So the broadcasters have decided we're going to have a mass debate.
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Make yourself useful, and tell us what the average Lab lead in May 2014 was, and what it has been so far in Jan 2015.JWisemann said:Make that 3 in 29 polls
I'll give you a clue, it is close to zero in Jan 2015, and it wasn't close to zero in May 2014.0 -
Labour ain't getting a majority son ;pbigjohnowls said:Tonights YG - EICIPM LAB 330 CON 268
Rod Crosby not hard yet0 -
Hello?GIN1138 said:
When and where did I predict a 10% Tory lead by Christmas 2014?stodge said:
Well, as the person who once predicted a 10% Tory lead by Christmas 2014 I think we can find some better analysis.GIN1138 said:So we can now say that Cameron's stance on the debates has worked out really rather well from him?
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Swap the greens for the snp and I think a 5 way debate is more than fairTheScreamingEagles said:YouGov
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HARDCROSSOVERTASTIC!
SWINGBACKADINGDONG!
GOALPOSTAMENDOUS!
TIC TOC TIC TOC...........EICIPM!0 -
Maybe not, but they will still win, if not in the way they would prefer. Hardly much comfort for the blues.Pulpstar said:
Labour ain't getting a majority son ;pbigjohnowls said:Tonights YG - EICIPM LAB 330 CON 268
Rod Crosby not hard yet
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Since I was away for a few days, I can say this for this thread:
Bonkers.
There can be no functional debate with more than 3-4 people, though the Republicans had a go with about a dozen in 2012 and 2008 but the hosts didn't provide equal time to all guests in order for that to work (I remember Ron Paul getting 30 seconds in a 90 minute debate).
Also if those 7 are included then why not Respect, or the English Democrats, or the BNP, and what about the NHA and the Monster Raving Loonies?0 -
Looks like Labour should just about cling onto the lead in Sunil's ELBOW this week.0
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It makes the polls look a bit silly with all the variations from day to day. And surerly the movement in Scotland drives a horse and cart through sampling.isam said:
Swap the greens for the snp and I think a 5 way debate is more than fairTheScreamingEagles said:YouGov
CON 31%, LAB 33%, LD 7%, UKIP 17%, GRN 8%0 -
Another 1,000 people joined the Green party today. Lower than the peak of the surge last week but still huge and significant.0
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Maybe not asyou know i have never had a single bet on lab majority but just took 2.06 on most seatsPulpstar said:
Labour ain't getting a majority son ;pbigjohnowls said:Tonights YG - EICIPM LAB 330 CON 268
Rod Crosby not hard yet
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But what they share is the firm conviction that David Cameron has made a complete cods of it and they could do a damn sight better.Eastwinger said:
Their enemies are each other.DecrepitJohnL said:
No. Either they don't take place so he can't score an easy win over Ed Miliband, or they do and he has increased the number of opposition parties who will be attacking the government.GIN1138 said:So we can now say that Cameron's stance on the debates has worked out really rather well from him?
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UKIP say get your tits out for the lads on QT0
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In a hard way?Danny565 said:Looks like Labour should just about cling onto the lead in Sunil's ELBOW this week.
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Isn't that the Page 3 strategy?bigjohnowls said:UKIP say get your tits out for the lads on QT
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Scouser defending the Sun - of course he answers with a Muslim theme.bigjohnowls said:UKIP say get your tits out for the lads on QT
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So the SNP have told the organisers to allow breastfeeding.Flightpath said:
Rule 1 when organising a breast feeding conference...?isam said:"Mothers banned from breastfeeding at breastfeeding conference
Scottish government backed event aimed at 'removing the barriers' to breastfeeding told mothers that breastfeeding would not be 'appropriate'
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11363965/Mothers-banned-from-breastfeeding-at-breastfeeding-conference.html
But then again we are talking about the same Scottish Govt that predicted endless high priced oil and had a carefully worked out plan for currency union.
I have to say though that this reflects my First Rule (not worked out the other two yet)
'If something can go wrong it will' or put another way - 'If there is a million to one chance of something going wrong it will go wrong, sooner rather than later.'
Your point?0 -
Yeah but its ok for me ;pkle4 said:
Maybe not, but they will still win, if not in the way they would prefer. Hardly much comfort for the blues.Pulpstar said:
Labour ain't getting a majority son ;pbigjohnowls said:Tonights YG - EICIPM LAB 330 CON 268
Rod Crosby not hard yet0 -
Did Labour support a 5 year fixed-term parliament? If so, they probably made a big mistake because things were a lot better for them last year than this.0
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That is what Nick Clegg asked for, presumably with the support of his 5% polling party.TheScreamingEagles said:So the broadcasters have decided we're going to have a mass debate.
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I don't know anyone who would think page three should be banned0
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@DecrepitJohnL
It was a tactical master-stroke, get up on stage with seven other people who want to kick the crap out of you (in a few cases only verbally).... and corner the sympathy vote!
It Has Osbo's prints all over it really?0 -
Even if there was no fixed parliament Labour would still have not be abled to force an early election as the government has a majority.AndyJS said:Did Labour support a 5 year fixed-term parliament? If so, they probably made a big mistake because things were a lot better for them last year than this.
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It's about as close to zero as it is to the lead last May, about 1.2% compared with 2.4%. A drop in lead of 1.2% in 8 months. At this rate the Tories will be nailed on for a majority in about a year.TheScreamingEagles said:
Make yourself useful, and tell us what the average Lab lead in May 2014 was, and what it has been so far in Jan 2015.JWisemann said:Make that 3 in 29 polls
I'll give you a clue, it is close to zero in Jan 2015, and it wasn't close to zero in May 2014.
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Each of them is opposed to the others. The whole point of them is to say they can do better, what we have effectively is a fractured opposition to Cameron. You might think that is helpful to the opposition, I could not possibly comment. Well actually I will. Cameron can appeal to the mainstream in the face of a fractured extreme. And watch Greens SNP LDs and Labour squabble over the same voters.DecrepitJohnL said:
But what they share is the firm conviction that David Cameron has made a complete cods of it and they could do a damn sight better.Eastwinger said:
Their enemies are each other.DecrepitJohnL said:
No. Either they don't take place so he can't score an easy win over Ed Miliband, or they do and he has increased the number of opposition parties who will be attacking the government.GIN1138 said:So we can now say that Cameron's stance on the debates has worked out really rather well from him?
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They just don't need to be only in the lead, they need a significantly large lead (lets say with the SNP surge in scotland, a Tory lead of about 4-5%).JWisemann said:
It's about as close to zero as it is to the lead last May, about 1.2% compared with 2.4%. A drop in lead of 1.2% in 8 months. At this rate the Tories will be nailed on for a majority in about a year.TheScreamingEagles said:
Make yourself useful, and tell us what the average Lab lead in May 2014 was, and what it has been so far in Jan 2015.JWisemann said:Make that 3 in 29 polls
I'll give you a clue, it is close to zero in Jan 2015, and it wasn't close to zero in May 2014.
So do the math again.0 -
George Osborne trying to suggest he has cut taxes in this Parliament. IFS report tomorrow will say he's done the exact opposite. #newsnight0
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Allegedly Santorum had a problem and went to a conference on premature ejaculation. He arrived early. In other words, he came too soon.....Neil said:0 -
Ok, Tory maj nailed on 2018.
Dave's good at stalling tactics, he'll come up with something.0 -
Really not true. The Borgen 8-person debates simply reflect the norm in Scandinavia, and they work perfectly well. That said, the tradition there is to listen politely to each other, which is, um, not the habit here (one of those cultural differences that we have to teach immigrants, no doubt).Speedy said:Since I was away for a few days, I can say this for this thread:
Bonkers.
There can be no functional debate with more than 3-4 people, though the Republicans had a go with about a dozen in 2012 and 2008 but the hosts didn't provide equal time to all guests in order for that to work (I remember Ron Paul getting 30 seconds in a 90 minute debate).
I don't know enough about TV broadcasting in Wales and Scotland. Can't there be regional debates involving SNP and Plaid but not shown in e.g. Surrey? Labour would need to decide whether to put up Murphy or Miliband, etc., but that could be left to the parties.
As for the poll - we keep speculating that the numbers are going one way or another, but apart from the Green boomlet they've remained pretty static for a couple of months, with random variation around a roughly 1-point Labour lead. Trench warfare between the core votes IMO.
Incidentally, I had a day trip to Hamburg today for work - the city is awash with posters, and I see there's a state eleciton on the 15th. AfD look like getting into the State parliament, and the sPD isn't doing well - the curse of the junior coalition partner strikes again:
http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/landtage/hamburg.htm
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You haven't read the results of surveys that have pointed that there is no one mainstream but two mainstreams (one left, one right)?Flightpath said:
Each of them is opposed to the others. The whole point of them is to say they can do better, what we have effectively is a fractured opposition to Cameron. You might think that is helpful to the opposition, I could not possibly comment. Well actually I will. Cameron can appeal to the mainstream in the face of a fractured extreme. And watch Greens SNP LDs and Labour squabble over the same voters.DecrepitJohnL said:
But what they share is the firm conviction that David Cameron has made a complete cods of it and they could do a damn sight better.Eastwinger said:
Their enemies are each other.DecrepitJohnL said:
No. Either they don't take place so he can't score an easy win over Ed Miliband, or they do and he has increased the number of opposition parties who will be attacking the government.GIN1138 said:So we can now say that Cameron's stance on the debates has worked out really rather well from him?
Cameron like the LD's can perfectly manage to appeal to none of the two mainstreams.0 -
Britain Elects @britainelects 2m2 minutes ago
Conservatives HOLD Crowborough West (Wealden).0 -
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He must have forgotten to take in to account the VAT increase Dave said was never going to happen?0 -
Britain Elects @britainelects 1m1 minute ago
Crowborough West (Wealden) result:
CON - 58.7% (-14.1)
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I presume the bit where one party gains a major swing purely on the back of a good debate performance was fiction however?NickPalmer said:
Really not true. The Borgen 8-person debates simply reflect the norm in Scandinavia, and they work perfectly well.Speedy said:Since I was away for a few days, I can say this for this thread:
Bonkers.
There can be no functional debate with more than 3-4 people, though the Republicans had a go with about a dozen in 2012 and 2008 but the hosts didn't provide equal time to all guests in order for that to work (I remember Ron Paul getting 30 seconds in a 90 minute debate).0 -
He's cut some taxes but there was never any doubt that the Coalition's strategy for reducing the deficit included a contribution from tax increases (20:80) over this Parliament. Of course over the next Parliament the Tories are promising more (fairly unprecedented) austerity in order to give overall tax cuts.bigjohnowls said:George Osborne trying to suggest he has cut taxes in this Parliament. IFS report tomorrow will say he's done the exact opposite. #newsnight
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Hmmm.... looks like no crossover after all?TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov
CON 31%, LAB 33%, LD 7%, UKIP 17%, GRN 8%0 -
"I don't know enough about TV broadcasting in Wales and Scotland. Can't there be regional debates involving SNP and Plaid but not shown in e.g. Surrey? Labour would need to decide whether to put up Murphy or Miliband, etc., but that could be left to the parties."NickPalmer said:
Really not true. The Borgen 8-person debates simply reflect the norm in Scandinavia, and they work perfectly well. That said, the tradition there is to listen politely to each other, which is, um, not the habit here (one of those cultural differences that we have to teach immigrants, no doubt).Speedy said:Since I was away for a few days, I can say this for this thread:
Bonkers.
There can be no functional debate with more than 3-4 people, though the Republicans had a go with about a dozen in 2012 and 2008 but the hosts didn't provide equal time to all guests in order for that to work (I remember Ron Paul getting 30 seconds in a 90 minute debate).
I don't know enough about TV broadcasting in Wales and Scotland. Can't there be regional debates involving SNP and Plaid but not shown in e.g. Surrey? Labour would need to decide whether to put up Murphy or Miliband, etc., but that could be left to the parties.
As for the poll - we keep speculating that the numbers are going one way or another, but apart from the Green boomlet they've remained pretty static for a couple of months, with random variation around a roughly 1-point Labour lead. Trench warfare between the core votes IMO.
Incidentally, I had a day trip to Hamburg today for work - the city is awash with posters, and I see there's a state eleciton on the 15th. AfD look like getting into the State parliament, and the sPD isn't doing well - the curse of the junior coalition partner strikes again:
http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/landtage/hamburg.htm
That's what happened in 2010, Murphy tanked in that debate, a snap poll put him dead last in single digits.
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The teetering continues.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Hmmm.... looks like no crossover after all?TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov
CON 31%, LAB 33%, LD 7%, UKIP 17%, GRN 8%
Still 9 nights left in January...
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But LibDems within a whisker of being overtaken by the Greens, so far this week!Danny565 said:Looks like Labour should just about cling onto the lead in Sunil's ELBOW this week.
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I wonder what the result would have been if there where 3 parties.bigjohnowls said:Britain Elects @britainelects 1m1 minute ago
Crowborough West (Wealden) result:
CON - 58.7% (-14.1)
UKIP - 41.3% (+41.3)
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Yes, can't remember debates ever having a huge effect there, partly because all the parties in turn had an hour-long PPB+forensic interview by journalists earlier so people who were interested already knew what the main themes were.kle4 said:
I presume the bit where one party gains a major swing purely on the back of a good debate performance was fiction however?
It'd be funny if the nation fell wildly in love with the Plaid leader, only for 97% of them to find that Plaid wasn't standing in their patch...
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Swing back to Labour starts here
reckon we are talking back to 2-3 % by the election.
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Quite. Purely on that basis I guess I will change my mind and say 7 or more person debates would be a good idea.NickPalmer said:
Yes, can't remember debates ever having a huge effect there, partly because all the parties in turn had an hour-long PPB+forensic interview by journalists earlier so people who were interested already knew what the main themes were.kle4 said:
I presume the bit where one party gains a major swing purely on the back of a good debate performance was fiction however?
It'd be funny if the nation fell wildly in love with the Plaid leader, only for 97% of them to find that Plaid wasn't standing in their patch...0 -
It's not about having regional debates, its about how you stop the Rolling News which is UK wide, the National News which is UK wide and the three debates gerrymandering the outcome of the election through exposure being given to parties which are competing with other parties, which are major parties, which do not get that exposure. It's not a hard concept to graspNickPalmer said:
Really not true. The Borgen 8-person debates simply reflect the norm in Scandinavia, and they work perfectly well. That said, the tradition there is to listen politely to each other, which is, um, not the habit here (one of those cultural differences that we have to teach immigrants, no doubt).Speedy said:Since I was away for a few days, I can say this for this thread:
Bonkers.
There can be no functional debate with more than 3-4 people, though the Republicans had a go with about a dozen in 2012 and 2008 but the hosts didn't provide equal time to all guests in order for that to work (I remember Ron Paul getting 30 seconds in a 90 minute debate).
I don't know enough about TV broadcasting in Wales and Scotland. Can't there be regional debates involving SNP and Plaid but not shown in e.g. Surrey? Labour would need to decide whether to put up Murphy or Miliband, etc., but that could be left to the parties.
As for the poll - we keep speculating that the numbers are going one way or another, but apart from the Green boomlet they've remained pretty static for a couple of months, with random variation around a roughly 1-point Labour lead. Trench warfare between the core votes IMO.
Incidentally, I had a day trip to Hamburg today for work - the city is awash with posters, and I see there's a state eleciton on the 15th. AfD look like getting into the State parliament, and the sPD isn't doing well - the curse of the junior coalition partner strikes again:
http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/landtage/hamburg.htm0 -
Paul Nutjob not telling truth
Ampp3d @ampp3d 4m4 minutes ago
BBC factchecked the claim that the NHS is the 3rd largest employer in the world and found it not to be true http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17429786 … #bbcqt0 -
Live blogging from Kirkcaldy East by election on twitter at #kdyeastbyelection0
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The snp is different though, Londoners may need to know their policies if they're a chance of being in coalition with labour, because a vote for labour means possible Salmond deputy PMNickPalmer said:
Yes, can't remember debates ever having a huge effect there, partly because all the parties in turn had an hour-long PPB+forensic interview by journalists earlier so people who were interested already knew what the main themes were.kle4 said:
I presume the bit where one party gains a major swing purely on the back of a good debate performance was fiction however?
It'd be funny if the nation fell wildly in love with the Plaid leader, only for 97% of them to find that Plaid wasn't standing in their patch...0 -
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UKIP has honest debates BJO!0
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Btw Nice of Prince Andrew to give us all some light relief from the horrors of ISIS and Ebola in the news0
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This government presided over £3bn of cuts to social care Anyone think this might be bad for the NHS?0
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Indian Railways the largest employer ?bigjohnowls said:Paul Nutjob not telling truth
Ampp3d @ampp3d 4m4 minutes ago
BBC factchecked the claim that the NHS is the 3rd largest employer in the world and found it not to be true http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17429786 … #bbcqt
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Excluding tonight's YG (no tables!), the, er, "Super-ELBOW" for January so far (28 polls) gives Lab a 1.1% lead.RodCrosby said:
The teetering continues.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Hmmm.... looks like no crossover after all?TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov
CON 31%, LAB 33%, LD 7%, UKIP 17%, GRN 8%
Still 9 nights left in January...
It was 1.7 in December
1.8 in November
1.8 in October
4.0 (!) in September
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I look forward to you telling me how much the Green vote has declined by!MarkSenior said:Live blogging from Kirkcaldy East by election on twitter at #kdyeastbyelection
Did you know that the Green party in England alone now has more members than the Lib Dems across Great Britain?
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Quite distinctively different Scouse accents on show tonight. Esther went to the nice school and was brought up in the south of the city, the nicer part. Flatter accent, closer to the Beatles'.
Nuttall from gritty Bootle on the North side. More musical and harsher...0 -
Duke of Pork?Pulpstar said:Btw Nice of Prince Andrew to give us all some light relief from the horrors of ISIS and Ebola in the news
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No Panel Member has made the point yet that the NHS is the most efficient healthcare service in the G11 countries. #bbcqt0
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SEVENTH largest according to Wiki!Pulpstar said:
Indian Railways the largest employer ?bigjohnowls said:Paul Nutjob not telling truth
Ampp3d @ampp3d 4m4 minutes ago
BBC factchecked the claim that the NHS is the 3rd largest employer in the world and found it not to be true http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17429786 … #bbcqt
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I agree full of mass debates methinks!!!Pulpstar said:UKIP has honest debates BJO!
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Glozell Green interviewed Obama at the White House today. Check her on youtube.0
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Anecdotal - A friend of mine (A nurse) in the NHS has an incredibly incompetent manager, she won't vote UKIP in a million years but Nuttal's comment about going through the pen pushers like a hot knife through butter may well resonate.0
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Nuttall about to declare war on Scotland!0
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Frankly I have no idea if it is or not, but you need to define 'efficient'.bigjohnowls said:No Panel Member has made the point yet that the NHS is the most efficient healthcare service in the G11 countries. #bbcqt
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I had not realized G4s were quite such a large employer.Sunil_Prasannan said:
SEVENTH largest according to Wiki!Pulpstar said:
Indian Railways the largest employer ?bigjohnowls said:Paul Nutjob not telling truth
Ampp3d @ampp3d 4m4 minutes ago
BBC factchecked the claim that the NHS is the 3rd largest employer in the world and found it not to be true http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17429786 … #bbcqt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_employers
Is it really? Gods help them all then.bigjohnowls said:No Panel Member has made the point yet that the NHS is the most efficient healthcare service in the G11 countries. #bbcqt
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Mirror Politics @MirrorPolitics 52s52 seconds ago
.@paulnuttallukip says the SNP should respect the result of the referendum. REMEMBER THAT COMMENT FOR 2017! #bbcqt
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Well it's a damn sight better than the American system.Tim_B said:
Frankly I have no idea if it is or not, but you need to define 'efficient'.bigjohnowls said:No Panel Member has made the point yet that the NHS is the most efficient healthcare service in the G11 countries. #bbcqt
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Efficient at killing patients?Tim_B said:
Frankly I have no idea if it is or not, but you need to define 'efficient'.bigjohnowls said:No Panel Member has made the point yet that the NHS is the most efficient healthcare service in the G11 countries. #bbcqt
Clinical outcomes are more interesting than 'efficiency'.0 -
They even had a deputy crown prince in place, so I guess they've sorted out all the succession problems that could arise.Smarmeron said:The House of Saud needs a new head.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-30945324
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I think we can safely rule out any combination of UKIP/SNP in the next Gov't0
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Losing its podium position. No doubt down to bastard Tory cuts.....bigjohnowls said:Paul Nutjob not telling truth
Ampp3d @ampp3d 4m4 minutes ago
BBC factchecked the claim that the NHS is the 3rd largest employer in the world and found it not to be true http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17429786 … #bbcqt
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RIP Leon Brittan - the first Home Secretary than I can remember as I was growing up.
Watched 2 minutes of QT tonight and that was enough - what a desperately tired and pathetic old program it is!
Shock and awe from the ECB with €60bn QE per month from March through to September 2016, and this article rather neatly sums up the predicament they're in:http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/01/22/delusional-demise-of-the-euro-its-a-plan-now/
It's too late to consolidate all the Eurozone states debt into one overall debt market, and as a result the Euro is doomed.....but we need to get past the great turn date of 2015.75 (1st October) first of all.
Another great day for the US Dollar bulls including me. I think we should see some more follow through, but the USD is getting closer now to an interim high, when it will need to correct lower before the US Dollar bull market on steroids can then begin in earnest with USD worth more than a € or a £ - its shaping up to be a mega move with the last 4-5 months just the start of it all!0 -
That's not really a helpful, useful or informative comment.Pulpstar said:
Well it's a damn sight better than the American system.Tim_B said:
Frankly I have no idea if it is or not, but you need to define 'efficient'.bigjohnowls said:No Panel Member has made the point yet that the NHS is the most efficient healthcare service in the G11 countries. #bbcqt
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Yeah but Esther is the one you would want in bed.RodCrosby said:Quite distinctively different Scouse accents on show tonight. Esther went to the nice school and was brought up in the south of the city, the nicer part. Flatter accent, closer to the Beatles'.
Nuttall from gritty Bootle on the North side. More musical and harsher...0 -
Just another £13bn borrowed by the Coalition in December, and it hardly merited a mention in the mainstream media today. Overall borrowing basically unchanged on where we were in the 9 months to December in the previous tax year. It really is quite surreal living in Britain these days and seeing what passes as mainstream comment, which more and more resembles a smokescreen for what is really going on behind the curtain.
As for the next election, who is the volunteer to become the Herbert Hoover of UK politics? Is it the chameleon Mr Cameron, or the Milipede?0 -
Exactly - it's about clinical outcomes over time rather than the number of procedures, or some such.TheWatcher said:
Efficient at killing patients?Tim_B said:
Frankly I have no idea if it is or not, but you need to define 'efficient'.bigjohnowls said:No Panel Member has made the point yet that the NHS is the most efficient healthcare service in the G11 countries. #bbcqt
Clinical outcomes are more interesting than 'efficiency'.
It's a very complex calculation.0 -
Do you have a preference for a format to replace or program that fills its niche more effectively? I only watch QT very rarely, but am not certain what sort of format would make me a more compulsive viewer of it, so any ideas would be good,hunchman said:
Watched 2 minutes of QT tonight and that was enough - what a desperately tired and pathetic old program it is!0